American Idol Season 8 and Season 9

[Blackest Eyes]

So what? All other contestants' fans did the same thing! It's strategy. It's not manipulating the system at all. Adam fans and Danny fans did the same thing.


To think that the other contestants did not have the same opportunity and did not use the same opportunity is idiotic.

I think all of the contestants fans probably did something similar. But the fact is the voting system is flawed. As I said in an earlier post, why should people get to vote up to 40,000 times? That ruins all validity to the vote imo. Imagine if we could vote for president by text message...or some other way where we could vote way more than one time. The system is severely flawed and it needs to be fixed. The show is already a joke to begin with...this just makes it even worse.

[HOF44]

Imagine if we could vote for president by text message...

Jonas Brothers for President!!!! :cool:

[Skinned]

So what? All other contestants' fans did the same thing! It's strategy. It's not manipulating the system at all. Adam fans and Danny fans did the same thing.


To think that the other contestants did not have the same opportunity and did not use the same opportunity is idiotic.

Since when does voting for American Idol need a strategy?

Like Blackest Eyes said, the system is flawed and that was my point. I have no problem with your support of KA and it's great that you voted. But if you don't think 40000 votes is manipulating the system (regardless of who they are for) then somethings wrong.

[#98QBKiller]

I think all of the contestants fans probably did something similar. But the fact is the voting system is flawed. As I said in an earlier post, why should people get to vote up to 40,000 times? That ruins all validity to the vote imo. Imagine if we could vote for president by text message...or some other way where we could vote way more than one time. The system is severely flawed and it needs to be fixed. The show is already a joke to begin with...this just makes it even worse.


You're exactly right, they should only allow one vote per contestant per telephone # and that goes for texts and call-ins.

[Bubble Screen]

I think all of the contestants fans probably did something similar. But the fact is the voting system is flawed. As I said in an earlier post, why should people get to vote up to 40,000 times? That ruins all validity to the vote imo. Imagine if we could vote for president by text message...or some other way where we could vote way more than one time. The system is severely flawed and it needs to be fixed. The show is already a joke to begin with...this just makes it even worse.

I actually agree that the voting system needs to be tweaked. Hell, I've been saying that for years. But there's really no way around preventing people from voting over and over, is there? Also, its not like all fans don't have the same opportunity to vote multiple times.

But I do question why you think the show is "a joke", yet you post about it? Furthermore, I think that's a crazy statement, considering MANY past Idol contestants have gone on to have very successful careers. Carrie Underwood immediately comes to mind. Kelly Clarkson. Again, very successful. Ditto Chris Daughtry. David Cook. Even the one girl went on to fame as an actress/singer.

The only thing about the show that I would say is a joke is Paula Abdul's judging. Man, some of the stuff that woman utters is beyond ridiculous. But at the same time, take her off the show, and its not the same. In fact, take any of them off and it won't quite be the same. Except maybe Kara. Then again, after that bikini thing she better not be going ANYWHERE! :laugh:

[#98QBKiller]

Also this was on the cover of Yahoo.com, just a blog but funny that they put "Did America Get it Wrong" on the front page lol:

http://new.music.yahoo.com/blogs/realityrocks/178713/america-gets-it-wrong-kris-allen-wins-idol/

[prophet]

The simple fact is this... Whomever went to the finals between Gokey, and Kris was going to win the whole thing.

Adam was over pushed by the judges, and I believe it was a real turn off to many voters as well.

[Blackest Eyes]

I actually agree that the voting system needs to be tweaked. Hell, I've been saying that for years. But there's really no way around preventing people from voting over and over, is there? Also, its not like all fans don't have the same opportunity to vote multiple times.

But I do question why you think the show is "a joke", yet you post about it? Furthermore, I think that's a crazy statement, considering MANY past Idol contestants have gone on to have very successful careers. Carrie Underwood immediately comes to mind. Kelly Clarkson. Again, very successful. Ditto Chris Daughtry. David Cook. Even the one girl went on to fame as an actress/singer.

The only thing about the show that I would say is a joke is Paula Abdul's judging. Man, some of the stuff that woman utters is beyond ridiculous. But at the same time, take her off the show, and its not the same. In fact, take any of them off and it won't quite be the same. Except maybe Kara. Then again, after that bikini thing she better not be going ANYWHERE! :laugh:

Sure there have been many successful people. How hard did they actually work to have to get where they were? Did they play clubs at night and sleep in their cars? Did they get evicted from their homes because music wasn't paying the bills? Do they have to work two or three jobs just to make enough money to support their family? Most of them probably didn't have to do anything like that. They had a TV show that provided them an opportunity and that is great...I just hope they appreciate how easy they have it. It just bugs me that there are world class musicians who barely make any money and then there is a TV show that turns you into a "star" if you win (or come in the top 5 at least) I enjoy watching the show every once in a while, it just irritates me sometimes :cool:

A friend of mine from school studied with a teacher who was asked to judge for American Idol...I guess they do a screening kind of thing to see if you should actually get to audition for the real judges. Apparently the pre-screening people are supposed to weed out the insanely bad people as well as the insanely good people. Yeah, the really really good people. I was told that if someone had been trained vocally, and they were very good, they were told just that. They are too good for the show. I think it is a joke that they would not allow someone on the show because they were too good. Also, I was told that someone at my former school actually did audition for Paula, Randy & Simon and they told this person that they were too good to be on the show. I just think it is sad that they turn away for being too good. If it is a singing competition, shouldn't it be the best of the best? I thought that is what competitions were about.

[Bubble Screen]

The simple fact is this... Whomever went to the finals between Gokey, and Kris was going to win the whole thing.

Adam was over pushed by the judges, and I believe it was a real turn off to many voters as well.

Also, I found it interesting that Kris wins Idol a night after Shawn Johnson took home the DWTS title on rival ABC. Wasn't Johnson also a surprise winner on that show? Because all I'd heard was that Melissa (former Cowboys cheerleader) was going to win.

I'm not saying either wasn't deserving of their win. And I usually never believe in conspiracies. But I've never been convinced that the voting process was completely on the up an up. At least not on Idol.

[RocketCitySkins]

Also, I found it interesting that Kris wins Idol a night after Shawn Johnson took home the DWTS title on rival ABC. Wasn't Johnson also a surprise winner on that show? Because all I'd heard was that Melissa (former Cowboys cheerleader) was going to win.

I'm not saying either wasn't deserving of their win. And I usually never believe in conspiracies. But I've never been convinced that the voting process was completely on the up an up. At least not on Idol.


I like the voting system on DWTS better. They limit the number of votes per phone line.

I watched some of DWTS this season. For me, Shawn was technically good but she didn't really connect with the music. Of course, some of the dances are supposed to be passionate which is probably difficult for a 17 year old.

Still, I wouldn't be surprised if the preteens are the ones who voted Shawn Johnson the winner. Either that or the fact that her competition in the finals was a actor who recently moved to the U.S. from France. Vote American. :D

[#98QBKiller]

I was told that if someone had been trained vocally, and they were very good, they were told just that. They are too good for the show.

There have been a lot of people that were trained vocally and made it on the show and deep into the competition. David Archuleta comes to mind.

[Bubble Screen]

There have been a lot of people that were trained vocally and made it on the show and deep into the competition. David Archuleta comes to mind.

I never really got the fascination with him last year. I think it was as much his looks and personality as anything. Then again, im not a tweener. They seem to like him and that type music. If he has a long career in the industry, I'd be really surprised.

[SonnyRules]

Best part of the entire show:


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v159/Iniki/IDOL.jpg

[Blackest Eyes]

^ I concur.

[BigMike619]

is that the new judge?

[KingJeremy]

I was told that if someone had been trained vocally, and they were very good, they were told just that. They are too good for the show.

This is absolutely true. A local we know from here was turned away a couple years ago in preliminaries, long before you get to Simon & The Check'itoutdawgs, because she was too good a singer.

They're not looking for the best vocalist, they're looking for the complete package of commercial appeal. From there on it's a crapshoot because 15-year old girls and unlimited text plans have the power.

[Bubble Screen]

is that the new judge?

Sure is!

[Bubble Screen]

This is absolutely true. A local we know from here was turned away a couple years ago in preliminaries, long before you get to Simon & The Check'itoutdawgs, because she was too good a singer.

They're not looking for the best vocalist, they're looking for the complete package of commercial appeal. From there on it's a crapshoot because 15-year old girls and unlimited text plans have the power.

I dunno if I completely buy this stuff about people being turned away. Seems kinda fishy to me. I say that, because if he/she wasn't that attractive or whatever, they've had plenty of people on the show that could really sing but wasn't the most appealing person to look at. Remember that one dude's jacked up teeth, a few years ago?

Too good a singer? I really find that hard to believe. Not to mention, if this were the case then wouldn't that person still have been discoverd by now? I mean, c'mon. If you can sing you can sing. And that's what this show is about. Did they not have a personality? Have stage fright? Hmm...

[Skinned]

I dunno if I completely buy this stuff about people being turned away. Seems kinda fishy to me. I say that, because if he/she wasn't that attractive or whatever, they've had plenty of people on the show that could really sing but wasn't the most appealing person to look at. Remember that one dude's jacked up teeth, a few years ago?

Too good a singer? I really find that hard to believe. Not to mention, if this were the case then wouldn't that person still have been discoverd by now? I mean, c'mon. If you can sing you can sing. And that's what this show is about. Did they not have a personality? Have stage fright? Hmm...

If this did occur, I would have expected to hear of some discrimination lawsuits by now, right?

[MissU28]

A friend of mine went a few years ago(she is an amazing singer)- but they told her that she was not what they were looking for that year.

[Bubble Screen]

A friend of mine went a few years ago(she is an amazing singer)- but they told her that she was not what they were looking for that year.

Who told her this and at what point? I'm sorta confused as to when/where this is taking place.

[taylorcoreskin]

Best part of the entire show:


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v159/Iniki/IDOL.jpg

Kara's pretty hot, but bikini girl has her crushed here.

[Skinned]

A friend of mine went a few years ago(she is an amazing singer)- but they told her that she was not what they were looking for that year.

This is definitely true and I recall the judges saying this in the past. There are going to be people who are good, not necessarily amazing, but just not the potential package that they are looking for. This is very different though from telling people that they are too good....which I really can't see happening.

[MissU28]

Who told her this and at what point? I'm sorta confused as to when/where this is taking place.

I don't know, I don't know how it works. It wasn't Simon and them...I think there are people that screen contestants before they are sent to the main judges and put both good people through and horrible people through (for the gag reels).

[#98QBKiller]

I never really got the fascination with him last year. I think it was as much his looks and personality as anything. Then again, im not a tweener. They seem to like him and that type music. If he has a long career in the industry, I'd be really surprised.


Yeah I didn't like him at all. But I remember reading online that his dad had him in all kinds of vocal training since he was really young. They actually kicked his dad off set and he wasn't allowed back because he was harassing the other contestants.

And whoever reposted the pic of Kara/bikini girl...thanks! And here's the vid again for anyone who missed it:

http://www.rickey.org/?p=16356

:D

[81artmonk]

Best part of the entire show:


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v159/Iniki/IDOL.jpg

:point2sky BEST IDOL EVER!!

[RabidFan]

Eff Kara and her self serving ways

[Dan T.]

Maybe it's just the lighting, but it looks like Kara's got a spine running up her FRONT. It starts right at her navel and runs up to boob line. Weird.

[TD_washingtonredskins]

Kris is more current. Period. He really does well with accoustic songs and, to me, that takes more talent and connects with people more than yelling a 70s rock song.

Adam does the rock thing very, very well. But come on...how relevant is it to be good at singing Aerosmith, Kiss, or Queen? Those bands have their place, but it's back in time when I'm nostalgic, not when new songs should be coming out.

The right guy won because he's more talented, might actually write a song or two, more marketable, etc. It should tell you something that the band that's courting Adam is made up of 50+ year olds. At least when Daughtery was approached by a band, it was a current, modern one (Fuel).

All in all, Adam should stay on stage. He's dramatic and theatrical. If that is your cup of tea, great, but that's NOT the best, most talented singer or pop star.

America got it right!

Edit: Oh, and nice to see Kara! She can sing and she looks NICE for a woman of her age!

[Bubble Screen]

Eff Kara and her self serving ways

Self-serving ways? Did you not watch the season from the beginning? That was more a shot at Bikini Girl than promoting herself. It was great entertainment. That whole thing seems to have gone over your head.

[MissU28]

great post, TD!

[#98QBKiller]

It should tell you something that the band that's courting Adam is made up of 50+ year olds. At least when Daughtery was approached by a band, it was a current, modern one (Fuel).

That band of "50+ year olds" is considered to be one of the greatest of all time. And Daughtry isn't a good example because they're a lame cookie-cutter band put together by guys in suits, which is what will become of Kris Allen. The best thing to ever happen to Lambert is finishing 2nd place and not being bound to the Idol contract.

[MissU28]

That band of "50+ year olds" is considered to be one of the greatest of all time. And Daughtry isn't a good example because they're a lame cookie-cutter band put together by guys in suits, which is what will become of Kris Allen. The best thing to ever happen to Lambert is finishing 2nd place and not being bound to the Idol contract.

Let's all just agree to realize these are all our own opinions! Adam will be better for you bc that's what you like. Totally respect that. Kris will be better for me bc that's what I like.

Can't we all just get along:silly:

[TD_washingtonredskins]

That band of "50+ year olds" is considered to be one of the greatest of all time. And Daughtry isn't a good example because they're a lame cookie-cutter band put together by guys in suits, which is what will become of Kris Allen. The best thing to ever happen to Lambert is finishing 2nd place and not being bound to the Idol contract.

I'm aware of who Queen is and their significance. I'm also aware that they aren't exactly current (which was clearly my point).

That would be like arguing that someone who sings like the Beatles is necessarily worthy of winning American Idol in 2009. Though talented and very skilled in his niche, it's probably not exactly what they are looking for.

Think about it...these people put out new albums. They don't cover old songs from the 70s and 80s.

[taylorcoreskin]

All I can say about Kris is that I hope he comes out with a full version of heartless of his own.

[MissU28]

All I can say about Kris is that I hope he comes out with a full version of heartless of his own.

there is. go to youtube (i'd post a link but i can't get on youtube at work) and type in kris allen heartless studio. It's not the same version as he sang on the show (not as acoustic), but it's still nice and it's a full version. I like the unplugged version, though.

[Blackest Eyes]

It will be interesting to see how many albums they both sell. I think Kris may sell more albums because so many people enjoy the singer songwriter stuff a lot more. But as I said earlier, I am anxious how many of Kris' own original tunes will be on his first album. Daughtry didn't even win (right?) and he only wrote 1 tune on his album.

[#98QBKiller]

Let's all just agree to realize these are all our own opinions! Adam will be better for you bc that's what you like. Totally respect that. Kris will be better for me bc that's what I like.

Can't we all just get along:silly:

True, a lot of this is opinion-based. I don't hate Kris or anything, I like him and I think between Kris, Adam and Danny the final three was very accurate. I just happen to like Adam better :D and I don't think that Queen is a bunch of insignificant "50+ year olds."


I'm aware of who Queen is and their significance. I'm also aware that they aren't exactly current (which was clearly my point).

If you were aware of their significance then why did you make a statement insinuating that being approached by Fuel is a better option?

If you were a musician looking to collaborate with a band would you rather collaborate with one of the all-time greats or a mediocre band that lost relevance in the early 2000s?


That would be like arguing that someone who sings like the Beatles is necessarily worthy of winning American Idol in 2009. Though talented and very skilled in his niche, it's probably not exactly what they are looking for.

Think about it...these people put out new albums. They don't cover old songs from the 70s and 80s.

A) If you're saying that singing like Queen is what Adam does, then he would take that as a compliment. Freddie Mercury was a technically sound singer with great range, and one of the best rock & roll has ever seen.

B) Queen approaching Adam doesn't mean that he's going to be their new lead singer, it means that they want to tour or do a collaboration. Adam obviously has the creativity to make records of his own, with his own band. Like I said earlier, not being bound to the Idol recording contract is a great thing for him. It means more freedom of creativity and less string-pulling by the recording industry big wigs.

[taylorcoreskin]

there is. go to youtube (i'd post a link but i can't get on youtube at work) and type in kris allen heartless studio. It's not the same version as he sang on the show (not as acoustic), but it's still nice and it's a full version. I like the unplugged version, though.

Yeah the one on youtube is pretty good, but the acoustic version is tops for me.

[ixcuincle]

Damn it.

I was just informed that Rod Stewart appeared on the finale to sing Maggie May. Need video link of this epic event!

[ACW]

http://omg.yahoo.com/news/at-t-may-have-swayed-idol-outcome-to-favor-kris-allen/23028?nc

[ixcuincle]

Basically same thing from LA Times.

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/americanidoltracker/2009/05/american-idol-ended-its-eighth-season-last-week-so-what-will-fans-do-with-all-this-newfound-free-time-why-delve-into-anoth.html


Yet the murkiness surrounding the phone-in voting procedures all but guarantee conspiracy theories, especially given "Idol's" status as America's No. 1 show. Fox has never released more than bare-bones data about the tabulation process, which is managed by Los Angeles firm Telescope.

Fox says that it needs to keep the voting details secret to avoid helping any viewers who might attempt to game the system. The producers have also refused to release voting tallies for the contestants. Ostensibly, this is to sustain drama even during seasons when the results are lopsided throughout the season. But "Idol" has generally not provided such data even after the season has ended.

As a result, the AT&T dust-up is only the latest voting controversy to afflict "Idol," with partisans of rejected contestants always willing to point out how the system short-circuited their favorite. At the climax of the second season in 2003, Ruben Studdard beat Clay Aiken by a 130,000-vote margin, out of 24 million cast -- a margin of error of less than 1%. During Season 5, some viewers claimed that their intended votes for Chris Daughtry were mistakenly directed to phone lines serving other contestants. Daughtry placed fourth in the competition.

However, Fox appears unlikely to move in the direction of full disclosure. A spokeswoman contacted for this story said that beyond the statement, the network would have no comment.

Hmm

[MissU28]

http://omg.yahoo.com/news/at-t-may-have-swayed-idol-outcome-to-favor-kris-allen/23028?nc


Basically same thing from LA Times.

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/americanidoltracker/2009/05/american-idol-ended-its-eighth-season-last-week-so-what-will-fans-do-with-all-this-newfound-free-time-why-delve-into-anoth.htmlHmm


http://www.thrfeed.com/2009/05/fox-idol-att-voting-controversy.html

Let's say there were indeed 80 free power-text phones in play. And suppose each was used to vote once per minute by Allen partygoers while they watched the two-hour "American Idol" telecast (keep in mind this was AT&T staffers demo'ing phones at a party, not an underground Allen voting boiler room). That's 9,600 text messages. And suppose each voter sent 10 votes for Allen each time. That would give Allen 96,000 votes.

And this assumes that the 1,200 votes per phone wasn't flagged -- as the statement notes, "Idol" votes are not blindly collected; there's a monitoring system in place to catch irregularities.

Network sources say more than 100 million votes were cast in the Allen-Lambert contest -- the most votes ever for an "Idol" finale, as host Ryan Seacrest noted on the air last week. Fox reps have previously told reporters that Allen won by a large margin.

All of which suggests a vote gap that no amount of Arkansas viewing party voting could have given Lambert the win. Provided Fox's previous two statements about the voting results are true (at least 100 million votes and a significant margin of victory), even if the rogue phones generated a thumb-breaking 500,000 votes, such a surge would account for only .5% of the vote, which would only matter in the most squeaker of races.

Sources seem to agree, however, that the local AT&T reps embarrassingly messed up giving Allen supporters free votes, especially with AT&T being a major "Idol" sponsor (an issue that the statement by Fox and "Idol" producers notably avoids).


Basically, even the maximum votes made by AT&T weren't enough to tip the competition. Get over it, glambert fans.

[#98QBKiller]

Adam's response to the Kris conspiracy theory:


"There are plenty of standards and practices set up where they make sure that there's no, foul play. And I don't think it's a conspiracy," Adam told Access. "I think people are making a big deal out of nothing. A couple of employees handed out a couple of phones and showed people how to use them. I don't think that's a conspiracy of any kind."

Plus he responds to Clay Aiken's comments about him:

http://omg.yahoo.com/news/adam-lambert-responds-to-clay-aikens-blogs-if-he-wants-to-ride-my-coattails-good-for-him/23108?nc

[ACW]

Too bad Fox won't tell the margin of "victory."

(why the hell do I care)

[ACW]

http://www.vancouversun.com/Entertainment/American+Idol+bikini+wars+years+spray+says+Bikini+ Girl/1621802/story.html
Catfight please :yes:
:evilg:
:fingersx:

[Skinned]

Kris Allen to sing national anthem tonight at Lakers/Magic game

Enjoy MissU:silly:

[ACW]

Kris Allen to sing national anthem tonight at Lakers/Magic game

Enjoy MissU:silly::doh: :wtf: Keep your ***** American Idol away from sports! :saber:
I wouldn't mind seeing Superman dunk him though :evilg:

[renaissance]

Michael Jackson episode is on Fox now.

[CPortJGibbs89]

Michael Jackson episode is on Fox now.I am checking it out.

[MissU28]

Kris Allen on tour :) First concert was last night in Portland:

Hey Jude:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AZmk_qCqNIs&eurl=http://www.krisallenation.com/&feature=player_embedded

Heartless:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AZmk_qCqNIs&eurl=http://www.krisallenation.com/&feature=player_embedded

Bright Lights:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AZmk_qCqNIs&eurl=http://www.krisallenation.com/&feature=player_embedded

[Burgold]

Kris Allen on tour :) First concert was last night in Portland:


Stalking married men is uncool. This is how governors get in so much trouble.

[MissU28]

Stalking married men is uncool. This is how governors get in so much trouble.

I just keep up with him via krisallennation.com :)

[Hitman#21]

Alright guys and girls season 9 starts tonight, no more Paula and last yr of Simon..

[MissU28]

yayyyyyyyyyyyy I can't wait!!!! I'm gonna predict the winner again :)

[Hitman#21]

yayyyyyyyyyyyy I can't wait!!!! I'm gonna predict the winner again :)
Yea this is where it begins...Lucky you Kris won last yr :)

[MissU28]

that ain't luck that's SKILLZ

[dreamingwolf]

love the retard strength ref that seacrest dropped after that girl maddy was accepted

[BlueinBuf]

The guy that looked like Clark Kent was hilarious.

[Bubble Screen]

There were a few decent looking chics on tonite. And it was in Boston. Can't wait for Atlanta. Gonna be some hotties, im sure.

[Hitman#21]

Two funny guys today, amideo and Andrew the guy whe asked what are you doing here today he said "I think it's fairly obvious I'm auditioning for American idol" haha and kara's ego is enormous

[Bubble Screen]

Two funny guys today, amideo and Andrew the guy whe asked what are you doing here today he said "I think it's fairly obvious I'm auditioning for American idol" haha and kara's ego is enormous

That dude with the dark glasses is gonna be in the news after Idol. And for all the wrong reasons. What a weirdo. And yeah, Kara does have an ego. She's a looker though. So I can tolerate it. Did you see Randy Jackson's expression when that one girl walked out? lol...She did have a bangin body.

[Bubble Screen]

Btw, that Amaedo guy wasn't that good. He will probably go pretty fast in Hollywood. Seems like a great guy though.

[Spartacus87]

That dude with the dark glasses is gonna be in the news after Idol. And for all the wrong reasons. What a weirdo. And yeah, Kara does have an ego. She's a looker though. So I can tolerate it. Did you see Randy Jackson's expression when that one girl walked out? lol...She did have a bangin body. Kara is pretty hot. Such a ridiculous upgrade over crazy Paula.

Posh Spice was a nice addition tonight.

And finally, yes, that one girl from Boston who sang the Mariah Carey song had a nice ass. Randy knew what was up.

[Special K]

That dude with the dark glasses is gonna be in the news after Idol. And for all the wrong reasons. What a weirdo.
Yeah, that's totally what i said...to myself, since my husband won't watch the show with me. He feels too badly for the bad contestants, lol.

Regardless, I predict "Clark Kent" will be in the news again...as a serial killer. That guy is weird, like, totally anti-social.

[dreamingwolf]

Yeah, that's totally what i said...to myself, since my husband won't watch the show with me. He feels too badly for the bad contestants, lol.

Regardless, I predict "Clark Kent" will be in the news again...as a serial killer. That guy is weird, like, totally anti-social.

Your hussy is a vag, and your seriel killer will profit huge from the shows indigation. I wont gamble on it, but I think he will get a slight Hung dollar.

[Perky72]

That weird guy was rude and had an anti-social personality, but didn't deserve that piling on from Kara. God I hate her. And she and Simon seemed to drown Victoria Beckham out, I was interested in what she had to say but they kept sparring with each other and contestants.

I have a horrible memory but my favorite was the guy who, um, all I can remember is that Simon and Randy walked out after he sang which was also pretty damned rude.

[KDawg]

Kara is pretty hot. Such a ridiculous upgrade over crazy Paula.

Hot? She's a goddess.


And finally, yes, that one girl from Boston who sang the Mariah Carey song had a nice ass. Randy knew what was up.

Everything about her was attractive.

At this point I don't really care about any of their singing ability. I'll potentially care about that when it starts getting narrowed down a bit. Until then, I'm all about watching Kara. :)

[Kosher Ham]

She has an incredible body and is very sexy, but a goddess ?

And the girl with the great butt, did not have a great face.

I think the guy with the glasses was a plant. It just seemed so fake.

[KDawg]

She has an incredible body and is very sexy, but a goddess ?

And the girl with the great butt, did not have a great face.

I think the guy with the glasses was a plant. It just seemed so fake.

I'm sure every girl you've been with has been better than them, right?

Please.

Your definition of goddess and other people's could be completely different. I happen to be attracted to that look.

[Kosher Ham]

I'm sure every girl you've been with has been better than them, right?

Please.

Your definition of goddess and other people's could be completely different. I happen to be attracted to that look.

Every Girl... Certainly not better. But I wouldn't sweat either of them like they were so amazing.

Wouldn't a goddess be able to sing like an angel ?

So you like women with strong jaw lines and bad skin ?

[Titaw]

American Idol dies after this year!!!! Thank you there is a god!!

The reason I say this is because Simon is leaving after this year.

[#98QBKiller]

I liked the guy that sand Muddy Waters and the Robert Plant looking guy that did Marvin Gaye. I think Idol should focus more on singers like that, who have a different voice than what they were looking for in the earlier idols. I know they did that with Adam Lambert last year, but I'd definitely like to see more blues/rock people on there.

[KDawg]

Every Girl... Certainly not better. But I wouldn't sweat either of them like they were so amazing.

Wouldn't a goddess be able to sing like an angel ?

So you like women with strong jaw lines and bad skin ?

Who's paying attention to their jaw line... and how do you know she has bad skin?

[HogNose]

Regardless, I predict "Clark Kent" will be in the news again...as a serial killer. That guy is weird, like, totally anti-social.

yeah I predict that "Clark Kent" guy will be stalking President's or celebs in the future while carrying a copy of Catcher in the Rye. :silly:

[Spartacus87]

Hot? She's a goddess.
I never watch American Idol, so last night was the first time I've been able to check Kara out on the show. Give me a couple more episodes and I could very well be on the goddess train with you.

[Dan T.]

When is Ellen DeGeneres supposed to join the show as a judge? Is it only after they get to Hollywood, or will she be part of the city-to-city talent search?

[Bubble Screen]

I think its when they get to Hollywood. I don't think she will be at any of the audition shows. I think they are using celeb judges for each of those shows. Btw, Kara > Victoria. Victoria is really pretty. But she needs to eat a few cheeseburgers. Not into that frail look at all.

[Spartacus87]

I think its when they get to Hollywood. I don't think she will be at any of the audition shows. I think they are using celeb judges for each of those shows. Btw, Kara > Victoria. Victoria is really pretty. But she needs to eat a few cheeseburgers. Not into that frail look at all. I'd take a Kara/Victoria sandwich any time.

I think I heard Katy Perry was going to be a guest judge at some point too. That's another very hot singer.

I don't mind American Idol at all, I just don't watch it often. But these first few episodes with the terrible singers who are utterly convinced they're actually good because their 3rd rate singing coach told them so are great.

[Hitman#21]

There recording Hollywood week this week with Ellen. I dont like ellen but well see.

[FinalBeast]

A guy that I went to school with that graduated a couple of years ahead of me is going to be on it tonight. He also made it through to Hollywood.

[KDawg]

Kara looks good tonight. :)

[I_Bleed_B&G]

girl in the white dress had a bangin body

[KDawg]

girl in the white dress had a bangin body

Agreed.

We're finding the REAL talent here.

[Spartacus87]

First time I've ever seen the bouncers come out and toss a guy for overstaying his welcome.

[GoSkins561]

Looking like a fool with your pants on the ground. Gold in your mouth, hat turned sideways, looking like fool with your pants on the ground.

That dude is the man and deserves to make some money for speaking the truth.

[KDawg]

Pants on the ground, pants on the ground, looking like a fool with your pants on the ground!

The waiting room singing it was priceless, by the way.

[Bostic Hog]

Looking like a fool with your pants on the ground. Gold in your mouth, hat turned sideways, looking like fool with your pants on the ground.

That dude is the man and deserves to make some money for speaking the truth.

That dude cracked me up. They cut him slack with his age because he was a vet. He was funny as hell.

[Bubble Screen]

I'd take a Kara/Victoria sandwich any time.

I think I heard Katy Perry was going to be a guest judge at some point too. That's another very hot singer.

I don't mind American Idol at all, I just don't watch it often. But these first few episodes with the terrible singers who are utterly convinced they're actually good because their 3rd rate singing coach told them so are great.

1. Don't get me wrong. Victoria is beautiful. But I like just a tad more meat on a woman than that. Kara is fine as hell. But she's almost a bit too thin herself.

2. I agree with you about Perry. She has the type body that I was talking about earlier. Yeah, she's pretty decent looking. And not a terrible singer.

3. Yeah, man. These first few weeks are must-see TV. I love seeing how delusional some of these people are. And that pants on the ground guy was hilarious. And the message he was trying to send is correct. They do look like fools with their pants on the ground. Hat to the side. Gold in their mouth. I don't think we've seen the last of the General. :D

[Bubble Screen]

girl in the white dress had a bangin body

If you're talking about Mallory, then yes. She had a nice face too. And good voice.

[AsburySkinsFan]

I just watched tonight's episode. Is it me or are all of the judges just trying to be mean? I know that making fun of people in the early rounds is par for the course, but tonight just seemed a bit much IMO. The first singer was awful, and so was the first person that they did a "bio" on. I get that there are some bad singers out there and some that are blissfully oblivious the the fact that they are awful and while that carries a certain amount of humor I think that playing up the humiliation is a bit much for my tastes.

[Spartacus87]

1. Don't get me wrong. Victoria is beautiful. But I like just a tad more meat on a woman than that. Kara is fine as hell. But she's almost a bit too thin herself.

2. I agree with you about Perry. She has the type body that I was talking about earlier. Yeah, she's pretty decent looking. And not a terrible singer.

3. Yeah, man. These first few weeks are must-see TV. I love seeing how delusional some of these people are. And that pants on the ground guy was hilarious. And the message he was trying to send is correct. They do look like fools with their pants on the ground. Hat to the side. Gold in their mouth. I don't think we've seen the last of the General. :D I hear you on Ms. Beckham, she's pretty thin for a lot of guys. Generally I don't like that either (I'm much more into the Katy Perry curvy body type), but something about her is really attractive to me.

After another episode of checking out Kara, I think I'm on the bandwagon with KDawg. She's ridiculously hot.

[kiingspadee]

Pants on tha ground, pants on tha ground, lookin like a fool witcha pants on tha ground

[Spartacus87]

I just watched tonight's episode. Is it me or are all of the judges just trying to be mean? I know that making fun of people in the early rounds is par for the course, but tonight just seemed a bit much IMO. The first singer was awful, and so was the first person that they did a "bio" on. I get that there are some bad singers out there and some that are blissfully oblivious the the fact that they are awful and while that carries a certain amount of humor I think that playing up the humiliation is a bit much for my tastes. Sometimes I'll think it would be nice if they could offer more purely constructive criticism rather than just laugh and tell the person straight no.

But you have to figure, they get hundreds of people auditioning every day they're in a city, and see so many awful wannabe Mariah Careys or Chris Browns that after sometime they're probably sick of these terrible singers coming in and really just wasting everyone's time. And for every couple of singers that have some talent but just need a little more polish and training, there will be one like that Jamal guy who flipped out and started cursing at the judges because they told him no.

So their fuses are going to grow a little short as they want to hustle the process along.

And yeah, there's probably a degree of Simon playing up his routine while some of the other judges get in on that act as well.

[Bubble Screen]

The judges only act that way for the camera. If this wasn't on air they wouldn't be as mean. They would just say no and that would be the end of it.

Btw, I concur with the earlier poster about Simon. If this is indeed it for him, they should not even think about another year with Idol. It would be a complete waste of time. Like him or not, he makes that show. Randy and Kara are great, too.

[KDawg]

The judges only act that way for the camera. If this wasn't on air they wouldn't be as mean. They would just say no and that would be the end of it.

Btw, I concur with the earlier poster about Simon. If this is indeed it for him, they should not even think about another year with Idol. It would be a complete waste of time. Like him or not, he makes that show. Randy and Kara are great, too.

I disagree.

The show will be fine without him. They just need to do things a bit differently. They can't make it the same without Simon because it won't be. Some tweaks here and there and it could still be pretty good.

[kiingspadee]

LOL Pants on the ground is on the top of google trends

[KDawg]

After another episode of checking out Kara, I think I'm on the bandwagon with KDawg. She's ridiculously hot.

No. She's mine. Back off ;)

I wouldn't mind seeing her pants on the ground, pants on the ground, I'd be lookin' like a fool with her pants on the ground.

[Kosher Ham]

Kara is cute. Something about her face is just manly though. I think she has a great body. But the bikini girl from last year was sexier.

Back to the show...The General was hilarious. They seemed to show a lot more people that they picked from the Atlanta show which is nice. I hate when they get to Hollywood and they have only showed 15 people that are any good.

I really liked the cop and the girl in the white dress.

[I_Bleed_B&G]

S-k-i-b-o-s-k-i !!!!!!!!!!!!

[Kosher Ham]

S-k-i-b-o-s-k-i !!!!!!!!!!!!

But it's missing an "I". haha. His responses to that were equally as funny. The kid could sing though.

[KDawg]

But it's missing an "I". haha. His responses to that were equally as funny. The kid could sing though.

Except I had zero idea what he was talking about half the time. I don't think he knew either.

[I_Bleed_B&G]

But it's missing an "I". haha. His responses to that were equally as funny. The kid could sing though.
HAHAH http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=indKHYIgEFw

[Kosher Ham]

Except I had zero idea what he was talking about half the time. I don't think he knew either.

Same boat with you. He was certainly a challenged individual. I kept thinking he was trying too hard with his slick pimp talk.


HAHAH http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=indKHYIgEFw

Thanks for the link, I will check it out right now. haha.

EDIT: This is a better link : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SS7RJ3yNlmk&NR=1

[Capt. Kaos]

I'm ashamed of all of you, no mention of "Bridge Jumping"


That's unacceptable, her momma doesnt have butterflies in her stomach she has frogs and she gets to ride in an air-o-plane for the first time. That should warrant some discussion on here. :silly:

She could sing though.

[Kosher Ham]

I'm ashamed of all of you, no mention of "Bridge Jumping"


That's unacceptable, her momma doesnt have butterflies in her stomach she has frogs and she gets to ride in an air-o-plane for the first time. That should warrant some discussion on here. :silly:

She could sing though.


She can't win. She was okay and personable. But not a winner.

[AsburySkinsFan]

Sometimes I'll think it would be nice if they could offer more purely constructive criticism rather than just laugh and tell the person straight no.
Agreed


But you have to figure, they get hundreds of people auditioning every day they're in a city, and see so many awful wannabe Mariah Careys or Chris Browns that after sometime they're probably sick of these terrible singers coming in and really just wasting everyone's time. And for every couple of singers that have some talent but just need a little more polish and training, there will be one like that Jamal guy who flipped out and started cursing at the judges because they told him no.
The problem I have with this theory is that the judges don't see every contestant there is a pre-screening at the auditorium and from there they send through the one's they think might make for good TV; good and bad alike.


And yeah, there's probably a degree of Simon playing up his routine while some of the other judges get in on that act as well.
Its about the ratings; laugh at someone who can sing or looks a bit different and all the world laughs with you.

[Skinz4Life12]

i think skiboski was high off his ass...his eyes were all glazed over in his pre-audition interview

[Kosher Ham]

i think skiboski was high off his ass...his eyes were all glazed over in his pre-audition interview

I agree. I said the same thing to my girl when we watched it last night.

[kiingspadee]

http://television.aol.com/american-idol/2010/01/14/pants-on-the-ground-mashups-from-around-the-web/?icid=main|aim|dl2|link3|http%3A%2F%2Ftelevision.a ol.com%2Famerican-idol%2F2010%2F01%2F14%2Fpants-on-the-ground-mashups-from-around-the-web%2F

This is getting out of hand!

[McD5]

i think skiboski was high off his ass...his eyes were all glazed over in his pre-audition interview

He is a crack addict, and has been tazered before.

Great show last night. Some amazing talent.

[KingGibbs]

My wife and I LOVED the bridge jumping, four dollar dress from the dollar store wearing, backwoods country girl from Tennessee.

We thought it was adorable when she said "I get to fly on an aeroplane."

BTW. She actually has very pretty eyes and I have a feeling that they are going to make her surprisingly cute.

[Kosher Ham]

I might make that (pants on the ground) my new ringtone. LMAO.

[SlinginSammy HOF '63]

http://television.aol.com/american-idol/2010/01/14/pants-on-the-ground-mashups-from-around-the-web/?icid=main|aim|dl2|link3|http%3A%2F%2Ftelevision.a ol.com%2Famerican-idol%2F2010%2F01%2F14%2Fpants-on-the-ground-mashups-from-around-the-web%2F

This is getting out of hand!

"Pants on the Ground" would be good to the music of Dream On that Eminem used for his song.

[Skins_Fan82]

gold toof in ya mouth, hat turned sidewayz. lookin' like a FOO wit yo pants on the ground :cool:

and is it just me, or is Kara dioguardi sexy as HELL?! her hair and those big eyes....my GAWD... :evilg:

[X_RedskinsGirly_X]

MY favorite was the guy that almost died hen they shook the camera when he was in the elevator

[Spartacus87]

gold toof in ya mouth, hat turned sidewayz. lookin' like a FOO wit yo pants on the ground :cool:

and is it just me, or is Kara dioguardi sexy as HELL?! her hair and those big eyes....my GAWD... :evilg: Skins_Fan82 now joins the Kara bandwagon with KDawg and myself. I suspect we'll have many more members by the time the season concludes.

[Bubble Screen]

I disagree.

The show will be fine without him. They just need to do things a bit differently. They can't make it the same without Simon because it won't be. Some tweaks here and there and it could still be pretty good.

I take it you haven't watched the show for very long. No way it has anywhere near the same success once he's gone. ZERO chance of that happening.


Kara is cute. Something about her face is just manly though. I think she has a great body. But the bikini girl from last year was sexier.



Seriously? Every time someone posts a pic of a hot girl or something, you always find something wrong with them. Pretty sure you could never get anyone even close to Kara.


But it's missing an "I". haha. His responses to that were equally as funny. The kid could sing though.

I thought he had two i's on there. I thought he had it spelled S-k-i-i-b-o-w-s-k-i?


I'm ashamed of all of you, no mention of "Bridge Jumping"


That's unacceptable, her momma doesnt have butterflies in her stomach she has frogs and she gets to ride in an air-o-plane for the first time. That should warrant some discussion on here. :silly:

She could sing though.

Not really. She can probably only sing country songs. And, unfortunately for her, you can't sing one genre all the time. She won't last long in Hollywood.


Skins_Fan82 now joins the Kara bandwagon with KDawg and myself. I suspect we'll have many more members by the time the season concludes.

Actually, I was probably the first one to join her club. Go back and read some of the posts from last year, right after she first came on the show.;)

[KDawg]

Actually, I was probably the first one to join her club. Go back and read some of the posts from last year, right after she first came on the show.;)

Pretty sure I was posting around that time as well ;)

[HogNose]

My wife and I LOVED the bridge jumping, four dollar dress from the dollar store wearing, backwoods country girl from Tennessee.
We thought it was adorable when she said "I get to fly on an aeroplane."

BTW. She actually has very pretty eyes and I have a feeling that they are going to make her surprisingly cute.

Yeah I think American Idol found their very own "Coal Miner's Daughter" and I expect they will clean her up and make her a star. This girl could have a bright future.

[I_Bleed_B&G]

I agree. I said the same thing to my girl when we watched it last night.
Skiiboski has his own song called ice cream. Check it out. LOL

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j3SjjqUx5VU

[Bubble Screen]

Pretty sure I was posting around that time as well ;)

Nah, I know you were. That was directed at Spartacus. Because I don't remember him posting much in the Idol thread last year...if at all.


Yeah I think American Idol found their very own "Coal Miner's Daughter" and I expect they will clean her up and make her a star. This girl could have a bright future.

Again, the only genre she can sing is most likely country. You can't do the same genre each week. She won't go very far at all once they get to Hollywood. And she really wasn't even that good singing the country. I think they felt sorry for her, more than anything else. I hope im wrong about all this though.


But im not.

[Kosher Ham]

I agree about the country girl. She was okay, but nothing special.

They claimed nerves, but she is going to be even more nervous, with more people around.

And she isn't ugly, but she is not hot at all.

[#98QBKiller]

Skins_Fan82 now joins the Kara bandwagon with KDawg and myself. I suspect we'll have many more members by the time the season concludes.

Count me in I think Kara's very attractive. I was kind enough to post this last spring:

http://extremeskins.com/showpost.php?p=6435512&postcount=1206

:cool:


Skiiboski has his own song called ice cream. Check it out. LOL

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j3SjjqUx5VU

:laugh:

Lyrics: "can I taste your chocolate swirl" lol!

He's like a poor man's R Kelly...he's got a voice but that damn outfit and his attitude were wack.

I like your sig BTW...what's up with the Biz Markie revival on tv? There was that commercial and the Heineken commercial too.

[ACW]

"Pants on the Ground" guy>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>any current, past, or future Idolette.

EDIT: Cool guy, too http://new.music.yahoo.com/blogs/realityrocks/301708/general-larry-platt-a-real-american-idol/

[Spartacus87]

I thought it was 2 hours tonight again.

The guy who sang the Tiny Tim song was extraordinarily weird.

It was good seeing Shania Twain though. She used to be my serious celebrity crush back a long time ago.

[skinfan2k]

Kara is so damn gorgeous. something changed from last season about her

[SonOfWashington]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=szJ6OxvS_mM

OMG, watch the whole thing. :rotflmao: :rotflmao:

[#98QBKiller]

The guy who sang the Tiny Tim song was extraordinarily weird.


Yeah I don't know about him, I'm hoping he was a fake.

[Forehead]

I agree about the country girl. She was okay, but nothing special.

They claimed nerves, but she is going to be even more nervous, with more people around.

And she isn't ugly, but she is not hot at all.

Nah, but I'll bet all you have to do is tell her you're from the big city, and that you'll take her on a plane ride, and then it's "Pants on the Ground" for you. Of course, her daddy may come after you with a shotgun, but what's life without risk?

[MissU28]

Yeah I don't know about him, I'm hoping he was a fake.

especially if he was seriously in the army....do you want guys like that walking around with semi-automatic weapons?

[I_Bleed_B&G]

especially if he was seriously in the army....do you want guys like that walking around with semi-automatic weapons?
Would not want him around in any capacity. That guy might be missing a Y chromosome

[TD_washingtonredskins]

especially if he was seriously in the army....do you want guys like that walking around with semi-automatic weapons?


Would not want him around in any capacity. That guy might be missing a Y chromosome

I don't mean to bring this thread down, but I'm seriously wondering if that guy wasn't autistic. His running, the facial tics, etc. all seemed to be traits of someone on the autism spectrum.

It's not to say that if he is mildly autistic the judges shouldn't criticize, but I think the show maybe should have thought twice about sending him through to the judges or putting him on TV.

I could be way off, but that was my (and my wife's) initial reaction when we watched him.

[Kosher Ham]

Nah, but I'll bet all you have to do is tell her you're from the big city, and that you'll take her on a plane ride, and then it's "Pants on the Ground" for you. Of course, her daddy may come after you with a shotgun, but what's life without risk?

That is not even a bet, it's a given. I already saw her in her bikini.

Next stop...

[I_Bleed_B&G]

I don't mean to bring this thread down, but I'm seriously wondering if that guy wasn't autistic. His running, the facial tics, etc. all seemed to be traits of someone on the autism spectrum.

It's not to say that if he is mildly autistic the judges shouldn't criticize, but I think the show maybe should have thought twice about sending him through to the judges or putting him on TV.

I could be way off, but that was my (and my wife's) initial reaction when we watched him.
Thats possible but didn't he say he was in the army? If you are autistic or have mental disease, do the military let you join? I wouldn't think so. I feel bad for him

[TD_washingtonredskins]

Thats possible but didn't he say he was in the army? If you are autistic or have mental disease, do the military let you join? I wouldn't think so. I feel bad for him

Well, someone his age (late-20s I believe) may not have been diagnosed. Having two young kids, I've learned that there is a full range of people that probably went through life undiagnosed. It doesn't mean they can't function...not every autistic person is like Rain Man.

I don't mean to sidetrack this thread...he just had the look of someone who maybe shouldn't have been put on TV because he WAS being completely serious (which, to me at least, changes it from funny to sad).

[Forehead]

I don't mean to sidetrack this thread...he just had the look of someone who maybe shouldn't have been put on TV because he WAS being completely serious (which, to me at least, changes it from funny to sad).

I'll say this much for him, he was extremely polite when addressing the judges, which can't be said for everyone. By the way, I've never listened to Tiny Tim...how close was he in pitch and mannerisms?

[Forehead]

Oh, and it may have already been posted, but if not, you all should have posted the screen cap of Kara from last year's final. I will assist you.

http://i.cdn.turner.com/si/2009/images/05/21/kara-dioguardi.jpg

[TD_washingtonredskins]

I'll say this much for him, he was extremely polite when addressing the judges, which can't be said for everyone. By the way, I've never listened to Tiny Tim...how close was he in pitch and mannerisms?

I agree. He called them Mr. and Mrs. whoever. That was what made me think he was being 100% serious.

I have no clue...to show how dumb I am, I assumed he meant Tiny Tim from A Christmas Carol.

:silly:

[Bubble Screen]

I can't believe Kara is actually 39 years old.:cloud9:

[Spartacus87]

Katy Perry is the current guest judge. Looking incredible.

Already some really weird people. I liked the wannabe Adam Lambert trying to sing Cult of Personality.

[KDawg]

Avril Lavigne + Kara Sandwich = CHA-CHING!!!!!

+ Katy Perry = I don't even know... Just WOOO!

[Dan T.]

Okay, was that really the Sanjaya crying girl again?

Also, the Hispanic dude with the former gang member parents was pretty damn good. The back stories are getting too sappy though. They need to pull back on those a bit.

[Spartacus87]

Kara looking maybe the best she's ever looked tonight. Just ridiculously sexy.

I really liked that Erica girl.

[ArmchairRedskin]

Whip girl ftw tonight

[Spartacus87]

Whip girl ftw tonight I hope she brings that gimmick to Hollywood.

I liked that guy who sang his own song that he wrote about the judges. He didn't seem like an unbelievable singer, but that song was pretty damn creative and he was entertaining while performing it.

[Spartacus87]

I like Victoria Beckham as a judge, at least for this part of the show.

She actually speaks out on a lot of things and offers constructive criticism, and knows what it takes to make it in this kind of show outside of just being a respectable singer.

[Bubble Screen]

Denver really represented last night. They sent 26 to Hollywood. Pretty impressive. And I never knew Denver is where Chris Daughtry auditioned. Weird, since he is from North Carolina.

[Skins_Fan82]

There are some cute chicks on that show. both folks auditioning...and of course the judges.

that kara dioguardi....man oh man...

[KingGibbs]

My wife and I were in complete shock that the 16 year old was actually 16. She looked ten years older. Nobody blew us away, but you know they probably haven't shown many of the better singers. Element of surprise in the coming weeks.

[MissU28]

http://www.maxim.com/girls/girls-of-maxim/86220/kara-dioguardi.html


for you horndogs

[#98QBKiller]

So what did you guys think about the people that got sent home last night?

I wasn't surprised that the Tyler guy got sent home, he was trying way too hard IMO and picked a boring, over-played song from the 70s. Both girls that got sent home were kind of boring too. The last girl that sang had a good voice and some potential but I don't think there was anything original about her.

I was kind of hoping Joe Munoz would've stayed though, that kid with the Dukes of Hazzard haircut that sang 'Too Late to Apologize' definitely should've gotten the boot over him.

I know it's only week one but this entire group seems kine of lacking on talent. I'm hoping that some of them step it up. Some early people that I think have potential to be pretty good are:

Andrew Garcia, the lucky guy that Kara wants to hump, the girl w/ the nose ring that blows glass, the girl with the silver hair, the hippie girl that did Alanis Morrisette, and maybe the kid with the mullett.

[McD5]

http://www.maxim.com/girls/girls-of-maxim/86220/kara-dioguardi.html


for you horndogs

TMZ has started a campaign to get rid of her.

I can't stand her either, she is so annoying anytime she speaks.


And the entire show this season....specifically the judges, blows.

This thing is going to be in serious trouble when Simon leaves next year.

[Rdskn4Lyf21]

So what did you guys think about the people that got sent home last night?

I wasn't surprised that the Tyler guy got sent home, he was trying way too hard IMO and picked a boring, over-played song from the 70s. Both girls that got sent home were kind of boring too. The last girl that sang had a good voice and some potential but I don't think there was anything original about her.

I was kind of hoping Joe Munoz would've stayed though, that kid with the Dukes of Hazzard haircut that sang 'Too Late to Apologize' definitely should've gotten the boot over him.

I know it's only week one but this entire group seems kine of lacking on talent. I'm hoping that some of them step it up. Some early people that I think have potential to be pretty good are:

Andrew Garcia, the lucky guy that Kara wants to hump, the girl w/ the nose ring that blows glass, the girl with the silver hair, the hippie girl that did Alanis Morrisette, and maybe the kid with the mullett.

I wasn't able to see too much from this week but I completely agree with you.

Most of the contestants just suck this year. Not that I could do better, but that isn't my goal in life :)

I really hope Andrew Garcia ends up winning it all. He seems like a genuinely good guy and is pretty creative.

[Btubes18]

So what did you guys think about the people that got sent home last night?

I wasn't surprised that the Tyler guy got sent home, he was trying way too hard IMO and picked a boring, over-played song from the 70s. Both girls that got sent home were kind of boring too. The last girl that sang had a good voice and some potential but I don't think there was anything original about her.

I was kind of hoping Joe Munoz would've stayed though, that kid with the Dukes of Hazzard haircut that sang 'Too Late to Apologize' definitely should've gotten the boot over him.

I know it's only week one but this entire group seems kine of lacking on talent. I'm hoping that some of them step it up. Some early people that I think have potential to be pretty good are:

Andrew Garcia, the lucky guy that Kara wants to hump, the girl w/ the nose ring that blows glass, the girl with the silver hair, the hippie girl that did Alanis Morrisette, and maybe the kid with the mullett.

So two guys got sent home last night? I was't able to watch it. I hated that tyler guy.

[#98QBKiller]

I wasn't able to see too much from this week but I completely agree with you.

Most of the contestants just suck this year. Not that I could do better, but that isn't my goal in life :)

I really hope Andrew Garcia ends up winning it all. He seems like a genuinely good guy and is pretty creative.

I agree, Andrew Garcia is who I'm pulling for right now. He seems to be more of an actual musician than a lot of the other guys. And has the creativity to boot.


So two guys got sent home last night? I was't able to watch it. I hated that tyler guy.

Yeah they sent home two guys and two girls.

[RabidFan]

the girl that sang I wanna hold your hand should have gone along with the red head that butchered Stevie Nicks....but they got rid of half their eye candy....

the young kid they said was cute looks like a young Bobby Ross...cro magnon really with an arrowhead for a nose...LOL

Tyler needed to go.....Garcia is definitely the best and Casey and the DeWize guy have decent rocker voices...I'm over the crooner voices of the mullet from hannah montana(i have two daughters so don't hate LOL ).

The 16yr old girl will win I think. Gandalf the Grey needs a makeover and Hippie chick needs an orthodontist.

[Btubes18]

I like Lee, i think he is pretty damn good, and would be a lot better with a band. I also like Didi and that kristen girl with a kid.

[Bubble Screen]

This season so far isn't moving the meter for me. Bordering on boring, in fact. I hate that the two best-looking girls got sent home. That Janell chic is pretty hot. But her and the other one that got sent home were both pretty bad. Lee Dewyze is probably my fav, as far as the guys. Not sure if I even have a fav out of the girls. And how did that high school chic even make the top 24? That chic is beyond horrible. The black girl with the lisp. Btw, that girl that works with glass has amazing eyes. She seems pretty wierd though.

[#98QBKiller]

And how did that high school chic even make the top 24? That chic is beyond horrible. The black girl with the lisp.

I thought she was good in her initial audition when she did a country song and I think the judges liked her because she said she wanted to do country and they liked the idea of a black female country singer, but ever since then she hasn't done so good. In her song the other night it almost sounded like she was flip-flopping between country and something else. It wasn't good though.

[81artmonk]

So far this season is a bust. Worst talent by far of any season. No clear cut leader. Maybe it will change, but for now, pretty much everyone stinks

[Bubble Screen]

I must admit, Kris Allen was pretty good the other night. Then again, pretty hard to mess up such a great song as that. I liked Alison Iraheta on the show last year. But that song she sang was horrible.

[CPORTISFAN999]

I must admit, Kris Allen was pretty good the other night. Then again, pretty hard to mess up such a great song as that. I liked Alison Iraheta on the show last year. But that song she sang was horrible.


...are we watching the same season here??? kris allen and alison iraheta were LAST year...not this year...:beatdeadhorse:

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...are we watching the same season here??? kris allen and alison iraheta were LAST year...not this year...:beatdeadhorse:

They always bring back former contestants and have them sing one of their own songs, or a tribute song, such as Allen did concerning his trip to Haiti. Maybe if you watched the show you would know this.:rolleyes:

[Btubes18]

Lee was pretty damn good last night.

God I hope that ass hat Jermaine is gone...he is terrible and so freaking cocky.

John Park sucks too.

[#98QBKiller]

Lee was pretty damn good last night.

God I hope that ass hat Jermaine is gone...he is terrible and so freaking cocky.

John Park sucks too.


Yeah Jermaine and John should definitely be the next two guys sent home.

I thought Lee tore it up last night, very good job. I thought Casey was awesome too and I also thought Big Mike did a very good job.

I think Kara was actually being more critical of Casey than she wanted to be, to avoid sounding like a fangirl. IMO, he did a lot better than last week.

The mullet kid was good too and I thought the young kid that did 'My Girl' was pretty decent. Overall, I feel better about this season than I did last week because some people actually came out and took a step forward.

[Bubble Screen]

Lee was pretty damn good last night.

God I hope that ass hat Jermaine is gone...he is terrible and so freaking cocky.

John Park sucks too.

Both of those two suck, yes. And Todrick isn't any good either. And while I think Lynche is pretty decent, I can't wait until he gets voted off. That guy needs to be brought down a couple of notches. He's nowhere near as good as he thinks. I think the two guys sent home Thursday will definitely be out of this group: Park, Jermaine, Todrick and Urban. I thought Ellen nailed it about the Urban guy. He would be awesome on a show like Glee, where he would have the looks, and could pass as a good singer.


Yeah Jermaine and John should definitely be the next two guys sent home.

I thought Lee tore it up last night, very good job. I thought Casey was awesome too and I also thought Big Mike did a very good job.

I think Kara was actually being more critical of Casey than she wanted to be, to avoid sounding like a fangirl. IMO, he did a lot better than last week.

The mullet kid was good too and I thought the young kid that did 'My Girl' was pretty decent. Overall, I feel better about this season than I did last week because some people actually came out and took a step forward.

I think Lee is pretty good. But I like both Chasing Cars and Lips of an Angel. And I didn't particularly care for the way he sang them. The original versions are WAY better. However, he has a good voice, and I could see him selling records. Mullet guy's voice is awesome. I hope he can continue to progress. I thought the Kelley kid was much better last week than this week.

[#98QBKiller]

Last night I liked Crystal, the last girl that did Aretha Franklin and the girl that did the Coldplay song. I wasn't sure why the judges hated on that song so much. I also liked Katie Stephens. I think she has the voice of Amy Winehouse whom I like a lot.

IMO though, the last girl and Crystal are far and away the most talented out of the girls. It's unfortunate though because all of the teenie bopper fans won't vote much for either one.

[Buddha]

I'm surprised that no one has mentioned Crystal flashing The Shocker at the end of guys night... :ols:

[Rdskn4Lyf21]

There are some cute, quirky, nerdy girls this season. I'm enjoying that :drool:

[81artmonk]

So far second night of the final 24 and I'm bored. I restate my last comment, worst talent of any season I've watched. I find myself FFW and hoping for better talent.

hopefully it gets better as it goes along or this will go down as the worst season of Idol.

[BlueinBuf]

I like the blonde girl who was playing piano last night, I think she has a good voice and is pretty cute too.

[Dan T.]

I was surprised at the negativity of the judges toward Didi Benami, the blond girl who sang Bill Withers's "Lean On Me." I thought it was a really good, on-key rendition.

Randy was a pill last night, and I am getting so sick of Kara's critiques. They are like fingernails on a chalkboard to me.

[#98QBKiller]

I was surprised at the negativity of the judges toward Didi Benami, the blond girl who sang Bill Withers's "Lean On Me." I thought it was a really good, on-key rendition.

Randy was a pill last night, and I am getting so sick of Kara's critiques. They are like fingernails on a chalkboard to me.

I agree. I didn't think her performance was the best but it was definitely good. They ripped her too much for it and for no real reason.

Randy had his panties in a wad last night and it's a shame because Kara and Ellen are terrible judges, so it made for a pretty bad night of judging.

[GoSkins561]

Cinnabon or whatever her name is will win it all.

[#98QBKiller]

Who's that?

[Bubble Screen]

Last night I liked Crystal, the last girl that did Aretha Franklin and the girl that did the Coldplay song. I wasn't sure why the judges hated on that song so much. I also liked Katie Stephens. I think she has the voice of Amy Winehouse whom I like a lot.

IMO though, the last girl and Crystal are far and away the most talented out of the girls. It's unfortunate though because all of the teenie bopper fans won't vote much for either one.

Yeah, Crystal is good. So is the other girl the judges liked alot last night. But her name is escaping me. The last girl is surpisingly good. But she won't make it to the end. Its too much of a popularity contest.


I'm surprised that no one has mentioned Crystal flashing The Shocker at the end of guys night... :ols:

huh?


There are some cute, quirky, nerdy girls this season. I'm enjoying that :drool:

I'm pretty sure you're talking about the last girl. Yeah, she's def nerdy. But I find her kinda cute, myself. She has really nice eyes. That high note she hit last night was great!:laugh:


So far second night of the final 24 and I'm bored. I restate my last comment, worst talent of any season I've watched. I find myself FFW and hoping for better talent.

hopefully it gets better as it goes along or this will go down as the worst season of Idol.

I was beginning to think this was the worst year ever after that first show last week. But this week I have changed my opinion. Several good performances this week. I'm now intrigued.


I like the blonde girl who was playing piano last night, I think she has a good voice and is pretty cute too.

That girl has the worst style ever. If she gets a little farther along, I can't wait to see what the stylists do for her appearance. But she needs an entire makeover.


I was surprised at the negativity of the judges toward Didi Benami, the blond girl who sang Bill Withers's "Lean On Me." I thought it was a really good, on-key rendition.

Randy was a pill last night, and I am getting so sick of Kara's critiques. They are like fingernails on a chalkboard to me.

Didi isn't very good. And I think she's starting to crack. I don't expect her around much longer, if she even survives this week. Randy was just being honest last night. And he was correct about most of them.


I agree. I didn't think her performance was the best but it was definitely good. They ripped her too much for it and for no real reason.

Randy had his panties in a wad last night and it's a shame because Kara and Ellen are terrible judges, so it made for a pretty bad night of judging.

Kara is a terrible judge? That's nuts. The only one you could say that about is probably Ellen. And she just doesn't have the music background.


Who's that?

I think he meant the last girl.

[Dan T.]

I like Ellen as a judge. Her sense of humor is a breath of fresh air next to Kara's increasingly grating, intense earnestness. You don't need an entire panel of music professionals to judge. Degeneres knows what it's like to stand alone on a stage and entertain people, and she draws on that experience when she gives advice. And she does it with humor that is otherwise sorely missed. So enough slamming on her, she's fine as a judge.

I really think the judges just run out of things to say so they fall back on the same damn cliches. The performances are still interesting to watch, but without Degeneres, the show is in serious danger of jumping the shark, because unless the producers pull a magical rabbit out of their hats, the show is done when Cowell goes.

[CallMeGreen]

The last girl to sing last night was Siobhan (pronounced something like SHA-bonn). I'm so glad she didn't keep the mohawk we saw in the pre-performance video.

Ellen is great. Actually Ellen says everything is "great". Once she finds a thesaurus and mixes up her complimentary words, she'll be better. But the added humorous remarks are a pleasant change.

[Bubble Screen]

The last girl to sing last night was Siobhan (pronounced something like SHA-bonn). I'm so glad she didn't keep the mohawk we saw in the pre-performance video.

Ellen is great. Actually Ellen says everything is "great". Once she finds a thesaurus and mixes up her complimentary words, she'll be better. But the added humorous remarks are a pleasant change.

I don't really mind her. But you can definitely tell she doesn't have any kind of music background. Then again, Paula did, and she was an idiot.:laugh:

I gotta say,though. That was pretty funny when Ellen said something about someone playing an instrument they didn't play. I think it was after piano girl played the Coldplay song, she said "guitar". Then goes, "wait, you didn't play the guitar"...:pfft:

The only thing that bothers me with her is that she says the same lines several times a night. Or she will basically repeat what the Dawg says.

[#98QBKiller]

I think as far as the guys go, the right two went home last night. As far as the girls go, I think it was time for Haley to go but I felt bad for the girl who sang Creed. Even though I already don't like Creed and she chose the most boring Creed song possible, I think she just made a bad song choice. I think she could've done better.

[Bubble Screen]

I think as far as the guys go, the right two went home last night. As far as the girls go, I think it was time for Haley to go but I felt bad for the girl who sang Creed. Even though I already don't like Creed and she chose the most boring Creed song possible, I think she just made a bad song choice. I think she could've done better.

Yeah, I had no problem with either guy that went home. That Sellers guy came off as a douche. And Park was just incredibly boring.

Haley should have never even made the top 24. She might just be the worst top 24 finalist I've ever seen on the show. I can't believe they even voted her to Hollywood. She was horrible. And the girl that sang the Creed song, I thought was just average.

[CPORTISFAN999]

i liked when kara said "where'd he do simon" and simon said "i dont know kara" and she said "can you tell us?" and he said "i dont know the answer"

[Dan T.]

Okay, I have a theory about the judges. Randy is so critical and cranky this season it's totally out of character for him. Here's the theory. Because Simon is leaving, the producers are grooming Randy to take on the role of the blunt, critical bad guy that Simon has done so well. So he's become very hard to please. But to me it's just not working. He's too hypercritical, and he looks uncomfortable doing it.

Crystal Bowersox, the glass blowing girl who did House of Rising Sun, and Lacey Brown doing Brandi Carlyle were all great tonight. Also nice to see Didi Benami get some love from the judges.

[#98QBKiller]

Siobahn and Crystal are definitely my favorite two girls this year.

[Dan T.]

Siobahn and Crystal are definitely my favorite two girls this year.

I'd have to agree.

[RabidFan]

Crystal did Tracey Chapman....I say her and Didi are the ones to watch. Siobahn looks like she is pinching a loaf when she sings and add that heinous nose ring and she's hard to look at....I think the girl Page is gone...off key from start to finish.

[#98QBKiller]

Siobahn looks like she is pinching a loaf when she sings

Maybe she is, but she can still sing.

[jobaga]

I hate that Crystal and Lilly act like they are too good for Idol. How they would never consider it because it is beneath them. Shut up, sing your song and be thankful that you were given a wonderful opportunity to make serious $$$$. Or go back to the hole in a wall, dive bar you were singing at before Idol. Yes, they both can sing

[GoSkins561]

Cinnabon will win it all, but I agree with 81, the worse group of talent in the history of the show.

[Btubes18]

I hate that Crystal and Lilly act like they are too good for Idol. How they would never consider it because it is beneath them. Shut up, sing your song and be thankful that you were given a wonderful opportunity to make serious $$$$. Or go back to the hole in a wall, dive bar you were singing at before Idol. Yes, they both can sing

I don't see where you think Crystal thinks she is "too good" for idol. As Simon said she is just building confidence. And to be honest she has been by far the best and most consistent performer. She can be that confident. For a woman to be in the hospital the night before and sing the way she did last week, was just incredible...and you know what she didn't cry and moan about it all, she just in your words, "shut up, and sang"

Lilly is just weird and I don't think she is as good as the judges say she is, but people who watch idol, like unique, hence Taylor Hicks winning.

[jobaga]

I don't see where you think Crystal thinks she is "too good" for idol. As Simon said she is just building confidence. And to be honest she has been by far the best and most consistent performer. She can be that confident. For a woman to be in the hospital the night before and sing the way she did last week, was just incredible...and you know what she didn't cry and moan about it all, she just in your words, "shut up, and sang"

Lilly is just weird and I don't think she is as good as the judges say she is, but people who watch idol, like unique, hence Taylor Hicks winning.

she is a good singer/musician and is getting better every week. In the first couple of weeks she said she never watched Idol and she never wanted to try out for Idol.

[GoSkins561]

Crystal and Lilly both suck and have crappy attitudes. As another poster said, they act like they are better than the show.

When Crystal sat down on her amp last night while the judges were making their comments it proves what a douche bag she really is, and the way she looks at the judges, when they say, "you know you are really good" is annoying.

[Btubes18]

she is a good singer/musician and is getting better every week. In the first couple of weeks she said she never watched Idol and she never wanted to try out for Idol.

Not all contestants have to be fans of the show...just because she didn't watch the show or she never wanted to tryout doesn't mean she is too good for the show. She obviously had a life changing event where it lead her to tryout for Idol, for her, that life changing event was her child.

She just wants to make a better life for her child...and in my opinion and also as Kara said she is ready to create labels of her own. The woman is naturally talented musician, this is the route she chose to take to make a succesful life for herself and kid...even if she doesn't win the show, enough people have interest in her voice she will get picked up by a studio of some sort.

[#98QBKiller]

Crystal and Lilly both suck


You can complain that they have crappy attitudes all day but this statement is just plain false. Especially regarding Crystal.

[GoSkins561]

Crystal is your run of the mill bar preformer that plays cover tunes. Lily is a oddball and won't be in the competition much longer.

[#98QBKiller]

Crystal is your run of the mill bar preformer that plays cover tunes. Lily is a oddball and won't be in the competition much longer.

They all play cover tunes, it's American Idol.

[Btubes18]

Crystal and Lilly both suck and have crappy attitudes. As another poster said, they act like they are better than the show.

When Crystal sat down on her amp last night while the judges were making their comments it proves what a douche bag she really is, and the way she looks at the judges, when they say, "you know you are really good" is annoying.

Or it could be the fact that she has Health problems....Obviously, you don't watch the show, Crystal is by far the best girl. I am not a big fan of Lilly, but she acts very humble and professionally. I have no idea what you're talking about.

[jobaga]

Not all contestants have to be fans of the show...just because she didn't watch the show or she never wanted to tryout doesn't mean she is too good for the show. She obviously had a life changing event where it lead her to tryout for Idol, for her, that life changing event was her child.

She just wants to make a better life for her child...and in my opinion and also as Kara said she is ready to create labels of her own. The woman is naturally talented musician, this is the route she chose to take to make a succesful life for herself and kid...even if she doesn't win the show, enough people have interest in her voice she will get picked up by a studio of some sort.

your right the contestants don't have to like/watch the show. They don't need to like the songs the perform or the song's original writer/performer. They don't have to like or respect the judges or listen to their critiques. But that doesn't mean the should openly act that way. To me, that just smacks or arrogance and that they feel the opportunity they have been given is beneath them. That is what I can't stand

[Btubes18]

Crystal is your run of the mill bar preformer that plays cover tunes. Lily is a oddball and won't be in the competition much longer.

So who do you think is unique enough and is not just playing "cover tunes"?

[Btubes18]

your right the contestants don't have to like/watch the show. They don't need to like the songs the perform or the song's original writer/performer. They don't have to like or respect the judges or listen to their critiques. But that doesn't mean the should openly act that way. To me, that just smacks or arrogance and that they feel the opportunity they have been given is beneath them. That is what I can't stand

To each their own opinion, I have not seen Crystal disrespect or say she dislike any of the original writer or performer. The woman barely speaks. She does exactly what she is told and sings and takes critiscism and responds to that very humbly. The judges have praised her, how else is she supposed to act?

[GoSkins561]

Yeah but some people don't sound exactly like the original, Crystal sounded like Tracey Chapman last night.

[jobaga]

To each their own opinion, I have not seen Crystal disrespect or say she dislike any of the original writer or performer. The woman barely speaks. She does exactly what she is told and sings and takes critiscism and responds to that very humbly. The judges have praised her, how else is she supposed to act?

My point was that she can feel however she wants, but she should appreciate the tremendous opportunity she has been given and stop acting like this is the first she ever heard of Idol. I think she like the music she is playing, my point was I don't care. We can only react to the image she portrays and that image is one that she had to settle for Idol (a show that no talent hacks go on, not true musicians like herself).

[Btubes18]

My point was that she can feel however she wants, but she should appreciate the tremendous opportunity she has been given and stop acting like this is the first she ever heard of Idol. I think she like the music she is playing, my point was I don't care. We can only react to the image she portrays and that image is one that she had to settle for Idol (a show that no talent hacks go on, not true musicians like herself).


Where I agree with the tremendous opportunity she was given, but in all actuality her talent got her to where she is now as the front runner. On pure talent, I will wager she makes it into the final 6 for the show and she probably may not win, but she for sure will get a record deal.

I think you and I have different views on how she has acted, you feel she has been arrogant and not grateful, where as I and most of the viewers feel she is just doing what she does, and that is to perform. I don't see where she has to act any different. Just perform the best you can and even if you don't win you will make it, if you have the talent, i.e. Chris Daughtry.

[Bubble Screen]

Crystal did Tracey Chapman....I say her and Didi are the ones to watch. Siobahn looks like she is pinching a loaf when she sings and add that heinous nose ring and she's hard to look at....I think the girl Page is gone...off key from start to finish.

Didi will not be around near the end. That's ludicrous, actually. She will likely be gone next week, or the week after. She isn't terrible though.


I hate that Crystal and Lilly act like they are too good for Idol. How they would never consider it because it is beneath them. Shut up, sing your song and be thankful that you were given a wonderful opportunity to make serious $$$$. Or go back to the hole in a wall, dive bar you were singing at before Idol. Yes, they both can sing

I have no idea where you think they are too good for Idol. Care to explain?

[Btubes18]

I have no idea where you think they are too good for Idol. Care to explain?


He is been trying, but hasn't really given a valid agrument to why.

[jobaga]

He is been trying, but hasn't really given a valid agrument to why.

when you say you don't watch the show and never have. When you say that you never planned on trying out for the show. To me that says I never thought I would need Idol and I don't respect Idol. The show is the most watched show on TV and has been on for nearly a decade. Of course she has watched it.

Put it another way, when you hang around a group of people that hate Idol. You can either tell them you love Idol and get made fun of or pretend you hate Idol as well. Crystal wants to be viewed as counter culture and different, so she takes the approach that she would never be mainstream. Therefore, she acts as if Idol is just so thing that she does.

[Btubes18]

when you say you don't watch the show and never have. When you say that you never planned on trying out for the show. To me that says I never thought I would need Idol and I don't respect Idol. The show is the most watched show on TV and has been on for nearly a decade. Of course she has watched it.

Put it another way, when you hang around a group of people that hate Idol. You can either tell them you love Idol and get made fun of or pretend you hate Idol as well. Crystal wants to be viewed as counter culture and different, so she takes the approach that she would never be mainstream. Therefore, she acts as if Idol is just so thing that she does.

Just re-listen to the praise Simon/Kara has given her...all imply she will have thriving career in mainstream.

That's not the argument though, It doesn't matter whether you seen the show or not...who knows she may not have TV, she may have had to work nights, you just don't know...but to say that is reason why she is arrogant and not respectful is not a valid agrument, no where did she disrespect American Idol, no where did she say she was "too good for the show" she just said she didn't watch it. From what I see, and ALL the judges see, she is just performing, and that's what this show is or "should" be about. Who cares where she came from or what background she has with the show, this show is about finding America's best talent and turning that person into a STAR.

She has incredible talent and the judges believe she is well on her way to becoming a Star, moreso than any other contestant.

I am done with this point, the guys are up tonight hopefully they make it competitive. Will be interesting how Tim Urban will do this round as he will be looked at by the judges as the heavy favorite to go down.

[jobaga]

Just re-listen to the praise Simon/Kara has given her...all imply she will have thriving career in mainstream.

That's not the argument though, It doesn't matter whether you seen the show or not...who knows she may not have TV, she may have had to work nights, you just don't know...but to say that is reason why she is arrogant and not respectful is not a valid agrument, no where did she disrespect American Idol, no where did she say she was "too good for the show" she just said she didn't watch it. From what I see, and ALL the judges see, she is just performing, and that's what this show is or "should" be about. Who cares where she came from or what background she has with the show, this show is about finding America's best talent and turning that person into a STAR.

She has incredible talent and the judges believe she is well on her way to becoming a Star, moreso than any other contestant.

I am done with this point, the guys are up tonight hopefully they make it competitive. Will be interesting how Tim Urban will do this round as he will be looked at by the judges as the heavy favorite to go down.

Agree to disagree. Just to clarifty: having a TV is a situation, watching TV is a behavior, protraying yourself in a certain image is an attitude.

If things keep on going the way they have been, I guessing all the minorities will be gone this week.

ps....I always said that I think she is talented

[Btubes18]

Agree to disagree. Just to clarifty: having a TV is a situation, watching TV is a behavior, protraying yourself in a certain image is an attitude.

If things keep on going the way they have been, I guessing all the minorities will be gone this week.

ps....I always said that I think she is talented

I can agree with that trend...seems like the minorities are just not lasting this year. Big Mike will go to the top 12 though.

[Bubble Screen]

Crystal and Lilly both suck and have crappy attitudes. As another poster said, they act like they are better than the show.

When Crystal sat down on her amp last night while the judges were making their comments it proves what a douche bag she really is, and the way she looks at the judges, when they say, "you know you are really good" is annoying.

This is really about her yellow teeth isn't it?

[#98QBKiller]

So I can't believe Kara really cried like that last night.

[jobaga]

So I can't believe Kara really cried like that last night.

I know...must be hormones! Or maybe she realized that once Simon leaves she will no longer have a camera on her and no one will care what she does or thinks?

[jobaga]

This is really about her yellow teeth isn't it?

Have you noticed they have been getting progressively whiter? They may say she had low blood sugar due to her diabetes, but I think she was rushed to the hospital due to a teeth bleaching mishap.

[jobaga]

I can agree with that trend...seems like the minorities are just not lasting this year. Big Mike will go to the top 12 though.

Big Mike had a great performance. I thought they were too hard on Garcia. Still looks like 3 minorities are on the block tonight. Paige, Garcia, and Fantasia's guy (I forget his name)

[81artmonk]

Man after last night I can't help but fall asleep. again this season is so lack luster. No one from either side is wowing me. And the song selection is sleepy-time boring. Every song is a ballad.

If anyone can step forward to take on bowersox it's over before it began. I don't personally like her style, but she seems to be the best right now.

[KingGibbs]

Kara has looked fantastic the last two nights. That is all.

Edit-I don't know why people are expecting too much out of the performances leading into the big show. It has always been a bit toned down.

[Btubes18]

Big Mike had a great performance. I thought they were too hard on Garcia. Still looks like 3 minorities are on the block tonight. Paige, Garcia, and Fantasia's guy (I forget his name)

Big Mike straight up tore it up last night. Absolutely fantastic. That song is a very hard to sing, and personally I think he sang it better than the original artist.

Kara is hot, but why the hell did she cry?

I think Garcia is good, but the judges are right he peaked to early and really hasn't found the right song to sing. Even though I thought the Fall out Boy song he did wasn't too bad.

Toddrick was ok last night, but he may go.

I actually thought Casey was good last night too, even though i am not a fan.

Lee did well, and Alex is got a really unique voice, just needs to loosen up. Aaron needs to go home, I don't think he is ready for this competition, all of his songs sound to much alike.

[#98QBKiller]

Big Mike had a great performance. I thought they were too hard on Garcia. Still looks like 3 minorities are on the block tonight. Paige, Garcia, and Fantasia's guy (I forget his name)


Does it really even deserve mention that they're minorities? Paige was definitely the worst performance out of the girls, Garcia may not have been the worst but his song was boring, and I'm not sure who else you mean. Todrick? He was pretty good IMO. But I'm biased because that's one of my all-time favorite songs and I like the spin he put on it.

I think Paige and Garcia are definitely gone. The other two spots are harder to pick IMO. For the guys it could be Tim Urban, he did good last night but that was his first good performance. It could also be the mullet kid, I don't think he did enough to stand out last night but he will prob get teenage girl votes.

The other girl could be Katelyn or Katie not really sure.

[Forehead]

I'm not following this season much, I've become kind of sick of the franchise, but I caught a little of last Tuesday's show. Was Lilly the one singing Patsy Cline? She sounded like she was part of Alvin and the Chipmunks. How the hell did she make it this far?

[NoleSkin21]

I had no idea what the hell big Mike was even saying. I couldn't understand a word he said. I think he is way overrated.

[Dan T.]

I had no idea what the hell big Mike was even saying. I couldn't understand a word he said. I think he is way overrated.

He finished and I thought "meh". So I was floored by the judges' lavish praise. I literally replayed his song to see what I missed. My reaction to the replay was "meh."

So I don't get it. Maybe he threatened to beat them up if they didn't give him rave reviews.

[NoleSkin21]

He finished and I thought "meh". So I was floored by the judges' lavish praise. I literally replayed his song to see what I missed. My reaction to the replay was "meh."

So I don't get it. Maybe he threatened to beat them up if they didn't give him rave reviews.


LMAO! I was stunned that Paula...ahhhh..I mean Kara was crying. Everyone here at work is talking about how much they loved his song, and I just don't get it. I couldn't understand a word he said.

[jobaga]

Does it really even deserve mention that they're minorities? Paige was definitely the worst performance out of the girls, Garcia may not have been the worst but his song was boring, and I'm not sure who else you mean. Todrick? He was pretty good IMO. But I'm biased because that's one of my all-time favorite songs and I like the spin he put on it.

I think Paige and Garcia are definitely gone. The other two spots are harder to pick IMO. For the guys it could be Tim Urban, he did good last night but that was his first good performance. It could also be the mullet kid, I don't think he did enough to stand out last night but he will prob get teenage girl votes.

The other girl could be Katelyn or Katie not really sure.

No it doesn't really mateer that they are minorities to me (and I am assuming you) But the fact remains that week after week the minorities are getting voted off. Joe wasn't going to win, but he got voted off first the week and he was much better than mullet boy and tim urban. Michelle (hot) and Angela (not sure on the name) were both much better than half the girls when they were voted off. Oh, but the church singer with the backwards suspenders was terrible and deserved to get voted off

[steve09ru]

No it doesn't really mateer that they are minorities to me (and I am assuming you) But the fact remains that week after week the minorities are getting voted off. Joe wasn't going to win, but he got voted off first the week and he was much better than mullet boy and tim urban. Michelle (hot) and Angela (not sure on the name) were both much better than half the girls when they were voted off. Oh, but the church singer with the backwards suspenders was terrible and deserved to get voted off
imo 2 minorities should have been voted off tonight and one should have stayed...(paige sucks, the big guy should have gone 1st of the two guys that did - imo)

[MissU28]

I can agree with that trend...seems like the minorities are just not lasting this year. Big Mike will go to the top 12 though.


No it doesn't really mateer that they are minorities to me (and I am assuming you) But the fact remains that week after week the minorities are getting voted off. Joe wasn't going to win, but he got voted off first the week and he was much better than mullet boy and tim urban. Michelle (hot) and Angela (not sure on the name) were both much better than half the girls when they were voted off. Oh, but the church singer with the backwards suspenders was terrible and deserved to get voted off

are you guys serious? It has nothing to do with these people being "minorities". I get pissed when people even suggest that has anything to do with the voting. Like how people were saying Adam Lambert lost last year because he was gay.

It has NOTHING to do with their skin color!! I don't disagree with anybody who has been booted off so far, save for maybe Lilly. Most of the contestants aren't picking good songs and they're just not likeable.

Honestly, this season is boring. I haven't been this bored of a season than when Fantasia won (I stopped watching in the middle of that season).

I can't see any of these contestants as an American Idol. Maybe Danny Garcia. Everyone else is BORING.

[jobaga]

are you guys serious? It has nothing to do with these people being "minorities". I get pissed when people even suggest that has anything to do with the voting. Like how people were saying Adam Lambert lost last year because he was gay.

It has NOTHING to do with their skin color!! I don't disagree with anybody who has been booted off so far, save for maybe Lilly. Most of the contestants aren't picking good songs and they're just not likeable.

Honestly, this season is boring. I haven't been this bored of a season than when Fantasia won (I stopped watching in the middle of that season).

I can't see any of these contestants as an American Idol. Maybe Danny Garcia. Everyone else is BORING.

I brought up the minority thing. Don't you think its odd that an Asian, 2 Hispanics, and 3 Black contestants have been voted off? Maybe it is just a coincidence. I just think its odd. I really don't care because I don't think any of those contestants would have won and they all would have been voted off eventually. I just didn't think they would be voted off in a row. Adam Lambert lost because Chris Allen was better and Paula picked the worst song ever performed on Idol for Danny Gokey to sing.

[#98QBKiller]

No it doesn't really mateer that they are minorities to me (and I am assuming you) But the fact remains that week after week the minorities are getting voted off. Joe wasn't going to win, but he got voted off first the week and he was much better than mullet boy and tim urban. Michelle (hot) and Angela (not sure on the name) were both much better than half the girls when they were voted off. Oh, but the church singer with the backwards suspenders was terrible and deserved to get voted off


You say it doesn't matter to you but in the same paragraph you seem to have a problem that most of the contestants that were voted off recently were minorities.

John Park sucked, Jermaine Sellers sucked, and Haley Vaughn sucked. They all deserved to be sent home. Michelle did a boring Creed song that got her sent home the other week and I think Joe should've stayed longer. I'm not sure if you're insinuating that these people were sent home because they happen to be minorities or what but for the most part, the right people have been sent home, save for a few screw-ups which happens every year.

[McD5]

Terrible decision tonight to vote off the mullet kid. He was one of the best on there.

And the wannabe Mazzy Star girl. She was also good.

They should have booted the annoying young boy.

[jobaga]

Terrible decision tonight to vote off the mullet kid. He was one of the best on there.

And the wannabe Mazzy Star girl. She was also good.

They should have booted the annoying young boy.

The mullet boy could sing, he was just too nervous. I didn't really care for him, so it didn't effect me that he was sent off. I bet if he had a better haircut he wouldn't have been kicked off thought. 14 year old girls are not going to vote for a dude with a mullet. If I were a judge, that would have been the first thing I told him.
I was shocked that Lilly was sent home. I expected her to be in the top 6. As I said in previous posts, I think she is talented but has a bad attitude

[Forehead]

Did Patsy Cline chipmunk girl get voted off? I was watching Survivor so I didn't catch it, but if so, good.

[Skinz4Life12]

jobaga are you counting ashely rodriguez as one of the hispanics who got voted off?

[Btubes18]

are you guys serious? It has nothing to do with these people being "minorities". I get pissed when people even suggest that has anything to do with the voting. Like how people were saying Adam Lambert lost last year because he was gay.

It has NOTHING to do with their skin color!! I don't disagree with anybody who has been booted off so far, save for maybe Lilly. Most of the contestants aren't picking good songs and they're just not likeable.

Honestly, this season is boring. I haven't been this bored of a season than when Fantasia won (I stopped watching in the middle of that season).

I can't see any of these contestants as an American Idol. Maybe Danny Garcia. Everyone else is BORING.

I am not saying they got kicked off because of their race, but to say race and diversity does not have an effect on voting is just naive...

I mean it shouldn't be that way, but there are voters out there who won't/will vote for a respective diverse contestant. That is a fact, it may not be as prevalent nowadays, but it is still a factor.

I think Alex should have staid, and Aaron should have been booted. I thought Lilly was unique, but she didn't appeal enough to the American Idol audience, glad she came out though.

[jobaga]

jobaga are you counting ashely rodriguez as one of the hispanics who got voted off?

yes (am I wrong?)

ps...I forgot about Haley, so it was actually 4 black contestants eliminated

[Skinz4Life12]

yes (am I wrong?)

ps...I forgot about Haley, so it was actually 4 black contestants eliminated

No, i just wanted to make sure you were including her

[TD_washingtonredskins]

jobaga,

I don't really think it's relevant or matters at all. I mean, you are picking a winner to a contest by allowing America to vote...so all prejudices are kind of factored into the decision-making process.

I don't think this contest would have a couple minority winners so far if America had proven to be incapable of voting objectively.

[KingGibbs]

Looks like there are a couple of aholes in here that keep bringing up ethnicity.

[jobaga]

jobaga,

I don't really think it's relevant or matters at all. I mean, you are picking a winner to a contest by allowing America to vote...so all prejudices are kind of factored into the decision-making process.

I don't think this contest would have a couple minority winners so far if America had proven to be incapable of voting objectively.

if you look over my posts, I have never used the word racist or unfair or biased. I was simply stating a fact. I am sorry that I have offended anyone. I just noticed a trend and commented on it. If this makes you uncomfortable, I apologize. But the facts are the facts, it is not up to me to determine why America is voting they way they have.

[jobaga]

Looks like there are a couple of aholes in here that keep bringing up ethnicity.

Name calling? Is that necessary? The funny thing is you just brought up ethnicity, so I guess you can join the a-hole club. I guess I am the president and you can be the sergeant of arms.

[Btubes18]

I thought last night was pretty good.

Didi was great, Big Mike was alright. Crystal was prety damn good too. I think they kind of killed Lee, but I thought he actually did pretty well.

Lacey needs to go, also I think Andrew Garcia is in trouble.

[TD_washingtonredskins]

if you look over my posts, I have never used the word racist or unfair or biased. I was simply stating a fact. I am sorry that I have offended anyone. I just noticed a trend and commented on it. If this makes you uncomfortable, I apologize. But the facts are the facts, it is not up to me to determine why America is voting they way they have.

I wasn't offended at all. I just commented on your facts by stating I think it's a coincidence.

[Dan T.]

I thought last night was pretty good.

Didi was great, Big Mike was alright. Crystal was prety damn good too. I think they kind of killed Lee, but I thought he actually did pretty well.

Lacey needs to go, also I think Andrew Garcia is in trouble.

Mike I don't get. I think he's so-so, but the judges rave over him each week. I thought Lee's "Beast of Burden" was excellent but they panned it for some reason. Not dramatic enough. Siohban is making herself into a star. She's got the theatrics along with the voice to back it up. I like Didi more than the judges, apparently, though they finally gave her some props.

I liked what Andrew Garcia did with Gimme Shelter. The judges didn't, other than Ellen.

[Btubes18]

Mike I don't get. I think he's so-so, but the judges rave over him each week. I thought Lee's "Beast of Burden" was excellent but they panned it for some reason. Not dramatic enough. Siohban is making herself into a star. She's got the theatrics along with the voice to back it up. I like Didi more than the judges, apparently, though they finally gave her some props.

I liked what Andrew Garcia did with Gimme Shelter. The judges didn't, other than Ellen.

Siohban is good and VERY unique...I just think ultimately she is going to become annoying, like adam was from last year. She is hot, in that weird kinky way...

I thought Andrew Garcia's performance was ok last night...I actually really liked his Fall out Boy's song awhile back that the judges hated.

[#98QBKiller]

Mike I don't get. I think he's so-so, but the judges rave over him each week. I thought Lee's "Beast of Burden" was excellent but they panned it for some reason. Not dramatic enough. Siohban is making herself into a star. She's got the theatrics along with the voice to back it up. I like Didi more than the judges, apparently, though they finally gave her some props.

I liked what Andrew Garcia did with Gimme Shelter. The judges didn't, other than Ellen.

I agree with all of this 100 percent. I liked Gimme Shelter a lot, but I knew the judges wouldn't. I'm starting to come around on Didi and I think Big Mike is good but the judges like him a lot more than I would expect. Out of all of the guys I like Lee the best so far.

Siohban is hands down my favorite contestant this season. She really does remind me of Adam Lambert last year, whom I was a huge fan of.

[jobaga]

Siohban is good and VERY unique...I just think ultimately she is going to become annoying, like adam was from last year. She is hot, in that weird kinky way...

I thought Andrew Garcia's performance was ok last night...I actually really liked his Fall out Boy's song awhile back that the judges hated.

I love Siobhan. I like Garcia, but he was terrible last night! No one (I mean NO ONE) was worse than Tim Urban! What was he thinking?

[jobaga]

I agree with all of this 100 percent. I liked Gimme Shelter a lot, but I knew the judges wouldn't. I'm starting to come around on Didi and I think Big Mike is good but the judges like him a lot more than I would expect. Out of all of the guys I like Lee the best so far.

Siohban is hands down my favorite contestant this season. She really does remind me of Adam Lambert last year, whom I was a huge fan of.

I agree, except I never liked AL because I thought he screamed too much. I really liked the young kid who sang Angie. Its early, but I'm calling a Siobhan, Lee, (young kid) final...with Big Mike and Crystal in the top 5

[#98QBKiller]

I love Siobhan. I like Garcia, but he was terrible last night! No one (I mean NO ONE) was worse than Tim Urban! What was he thinking?


I agree, except I never liked AL because I thought he screamed too much. I really liked the young kid who sang Angie. Its early, but I'm calling a Siobhan, Lee, (young kid) final...with Big Mike and Crystal in the top 5

I agree about the projected top 5. And Tim Urban sucked ass last night. I see him and Lacey as the next two gone. I think Tim will be gone tonight.

[jobaga]

I agree about the projected top 5. And Tim Urban sucked ass last night. I see him and Lacey as the next two gone. I think Tim will be gone tonight.

I don't like Lacey, but I think she has a lot of fans. When she sang Landslide it was terrible and she wasn't voted off. She has been the worst girl every week and is still here to torture us with another awful rendition of a good song.

[RabidFan]

Lacey stinks on ice and so does Page...Tim as well but he's got AI'd main demographic....teenage girls. Crystal should be top three. I think the younger girl will make top 5 for sure regardless of talent.

[Spartacus87]

I liked what Andrew Garcia did with Gimme Shelter. The judges didn't, other than Ellen. I never watch American Idol once the audition shows are done with, but I caught last night just to see some of the Rolling Stone covers.

That guy's cover of "Gimme Shelter" was awful. I think Kara was spot on. If you're going to try to sing that song, sing it like you mean it. There's a lot of aggression and desperation in those lyrics considering what it's all about, and he sang it so damn passively.

Whether he planned it or he just can't sing in that style, he took the depth of that song and just tossed it out the window.