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Redskin80
March-1st-2009, 11:40 PM
Seems like the Boys fans like Anthony Montgomery and think they should offer him a contract since he was only tendered a 5th rounder. I can believe the Skins would only tender Monty as a 5th rounder. I did think they tendered him as a 2nd. If it's a 5th then that was a dumb move. I like Monty with Big Albert in together as I can't see anybody running up the middle on them and Monty should do even better since he wont have to take on the double teams. Hope he was tendered at least a 3rd. Here's the link:
http://mbd.scout.com/mb.aspx?s=112&f=1786&t=4004074
HitStickTaylor21
March-1st-2009, 11:43 PM
Well if they offer him a contract, we can match it. I like Montgomery, but I'd let him go if the Cowboys wanted to overpay for him.
bubba9497
March-1st-2009, 11:50 PM
people in hell want ice water
terpskins10
March-1st-2009, 11:50 PM
Can you even tender a second rounder? I thought the tender hierarchy went: lowest tender yields no pick, the second lowest tender yields a pick in the round the player was originally drafted in, the second highest tender yields a first, and the highest tender yields a first and third.
So technically, we could tender Monty nothing, a 5th, a 1st, or a 1st and a 3rd. Is that right or am I mistaken?
STBonecrusher21
March-1st-2009, 11:59 PM
people in hell want ice water
Seriously bubba.
What with this thing going around here that if fans think something should happen, or the fans are interested in someone, the team is on the same thinking level as them.
You guys need to learn to seperate the two.
IbleedBnG83
March-2nd-2009, 12:00 AM
We need him now more than ever. I hope we can retian Monty.
NVskinsfan
March-2nd-2009, 12:11 AM
We need depth at DT no doubt!
If Taylor goes to OLB, then we need a DE also!!!
A Skinhead in Saints Land
March-2nd-2009, 12:39 AM
Didn't the Saints tender Lance Moore as a 2nd rounder? I'm almost certain they did.
moondog
March-2nd-2009, 12:48 AM
Not that Montgomery is a stud or anything, but I'd be pissed if he got away from us. He's young and improving and has great size and could be a potentially impressive starter for us if he continues to work and play more motivated on a consistent basis. I'd be even more upset if the team he went to was the cowboys and all we got back was a fifth rounder. For a second rounder, I might actually be mildly pleased...but I'm undecided at best. I think I'd rather keep him seeing as how we need younger linemen, and he seems to be developing into a nice player.
corrupt3d
March-2nd-2009, 01:10 AM
I'd be down for getting the Cowboys' fifth round pick.
stevemcqueen1
March-2nd-2009, 01:43 AM
I don't think that he'd suit the cowboys at NT.
mi6
March-2nd-2009, 01:45 AM
Trading Anthony Montgomery to the Cowboys ... would be one of the dumbest things we do!
Remember how we lost Antonio Pierce ... and look how productive he has been for the NY Giants.
Spartacus87
March-2nd-2009, 02:07 AM
I'd be down for getting the Cowboys' fifth round pick. Not in exchange for losing Monty.
A healthy Monty lined up next to a healthy Haynesworth is a pretty serious duo to not only stuff the run, but push the pocket.
warriorz
March-2nd-2009, 02:59 AM
Seems like the Boys fans like Anthony Montgomery and think they should offer him a contract since he was only tendered a 5th rounder. I can believe the Skins would only tender Monty as a 5th rounder. I did think they tendered him as a 2nd. If it's a 5th then that was a dumb move. I like Monty with Big Albert in together as I can't see anybody running up the middle on them and Monty should do even better since he wont have to take on the double teams. Hope he was tendered at least a 3rd. Here's the link:
http://mbd.scout.com/mb.aspx?s=112&f=1786&t=4004074
pfffft... ofcourse they do. hail skinz:logo:
downbeat87
March-2nd-2009, 08:23 AM
He ain't goin nowhere
AKM311
March-2nd-2009, 08:31 AM
Are we sure we tendered him for a 5th?
What about Golston? They never mentioned anything in any article on what they tendered them. Which makes it a big difference in what we can do with them.
edskins
March-2nd-2009, 08:32 AM
You have to keep a guy like Montgomery for now, he will be very good nexy year with the addition of Haynesworth. Also when have we ever had solid depth on the D-line and you know that Griff is a injury waiting to happen.
maskedsuperstar
March-2nd-2009, 09:14 AM
Trading Anthony Montgomery to the Cowboys ... would be one of the dumbest things we do!
Remember how we lost Antonio Pierce ... and look how productive he has been for the NY Giants.
Yeah, I remember. The Skins offered Antonio 25 million, he left for the Giants for 26 million.:doh: Thats why I don't like Pierce.
Tastes Like Chicken
March-2nd-2009, 09:22 AM
For a second rounder, I might actually be mildly pleased...but I'm undecided at best. I think I'd rather keep him seeing as how we need younger linemen, and he seems to be developing into a nice player.
Really? For a 2nd rounder I would personally drive Montgomery to the airport at 90mph, and unload his bags curbside without blinking.
J.Campbell17
March-2nd-2009, 09:27 AM
I want to keep Monty back because he is improving every year. If we get a 2nd rounder for him, then we can talk but for a 5th, no way we can let him go.
Chump Bailey
March-2nd-2009, 09:33 AM
Really? For a 2nd rounder I would personally drive Montgomery to the airport at 90mph, and unload his bags curbside without blinking.
:D
Such a move would allow us to get our new SAM in Clint Sintim.
I'd do it too...
Golston and Ryan B. is not ideal, but we could roll with them for one season.
herb mul-key
March-2nd-2009, 09:36 AM
keep monty..one of our own best d players
Veretax
March-2nd-2009, 09:37 AM
Laugh at them talking about putting a poison pill in there.
NoleSkin21
March-2nd-2009, 09:39 AM
He isn't going anywhere! He's at Redskins park rehabbing right now. I'd be worried about him leaving next season.
[[ghost]]
March-2nd-2009, 09:43 AM
I hope they don't tender him, even though we have no reason to believe that they will.
I mean, he's huge. Him and Haynesworth will make for a hell of a road block in the middle. Hopefully that'll allow our speed rushers to do their job.
One thing we must do though if we do retain Montgomery, is shore up our Edge Run Defense. Teams can run all over Carter and Taylor because of their size.
drowland
March-2nd-2009, 09:54 AM
He isn't going anywhere! He's at Redskins park rehabbing right now. I'd be worried about him leaving next season.
Yeah, but that's not stopping another team from signing him to an offer sheet. Right now the Skins aren't in a position to match anything.
Birdlives
March-2nd-2009, 10:02 AM
Wow, they tendered him at his round picked, that seems risky. My impression is that they want someone to make an offer for him. They could have tendered him as a 2nd and Gholston as a 1st guaranteeing we kept both guys.
The difference would have been about $1.1 million over what they're doing now.
The offer for Monty is for $1.01 mil and Gholston $1.5mill. The other tenders would have been $2.198 and $1.5mill.
Hopefully the fact that Monty is known to be a bit lazy and couldn't crack the starting line up will keep teams away.
addicted
March-2nd-2009, 10:07 AM
Yeah, I remember. The Skins offered Antonio 25 million, he left for the Giants for 26 million.:doh: Thats why I don't like Pierce.
No kidding right? Reading today's MMQB something Bart Scott said reminded me of AP:
I asked Scott about the reports that after he'd made his deal with the Jets on Friday, he tried to get the Ravens to match it, or at least come within a few bucks. "I made no bones about it,'' he said. "I owe a lot of loyalty to the Ravens. They're the ones who gave me my chance seven years ago. And I was going to have to uproot my family, and we love Baltimore. If it was close, the home team would win.''
At the end, the Ravens were at least $3 million off the total package of the Jets, who signed Scott for six years and $48 million, most of which he actually should see. Seems close to me, but it wasn't close enough for Scott.
Its one thing to be off by a million, its another thing to be off by a couple million. AP is an ungrateful good for nothing piece of crap that I'm happy is off our team. To hell with players like that.
addicted
March-2nd-2009, 10:09 AM
];6180851']One thing we must do though if we do retain Montgomery, is shore up our Edge Run Defense. Teams can run all over Carter and Taylor because of their size.
I agree but how do we possibly do that? Were outta money with 4 draft picks
BigMike21
March-2nd-2009, 10:10 AM
Uh I didn't know this guy was that good...I'd take a 5th rounder for him.
addicted
March-2nd-2009, 10:12 AM
Hopefully the fact that Monty is known to be a bit lazy and couldn't crack the starting line up will keep teams away.
That's not much of a ringing endoursement is it?
Thinking Skins
March-2nd-2009, 10:13 AM
I'd really like to keep Montomery. He's a guy who's been improving on the line and I have seen moments where he has been a physically dominating force on the line. I'd like to see that potential develop into a legit starter here.
#98QBKiller
March-2nd-2009, 10:19 AM
Seems like the Boys fans like Anthony Montgomery and think they should offer him a contract since he was only tendered a 5th rounder. I can believe the Skins would only tender Monty as a 5th rounder. I did think they tendered him as a 2nd. If it's a 5th then that was a dumb move. I like Monty with Big Albert in together as I can't see anybody running up the middle on them and Monty should do even better since he wont have to take on the double teams. Hope he was tendered at least a 3rd. Here's the link:
http://mbd.scout.com/mb.aspx?s=112&f=1786&t=4004074
I agree with you. I like Monty better out of the two we drafted in 06. I think he could really be something special with Big Al next to him. I hope we try to hang on to him and not let him go for a 5th rounder.
Thinking Skins
March-2nd-2009, 10:30 AM
Hopefully the fact that Monty is known to be a bit lazy and couldn't crack the starting line up will keep teams away.
Actually, that may be what drives him away. He was a starter in 2007 and got moved to the bench in 2008. He voiced displeasure with that at the start of the season. I could imagine that if the Cowboys promised him a starting spot, he'd be gone.
darrelgreenie
March-2nd-2009, 10:50 AM
Hopefully the fact that Monty is known to be a bit lazy and couldn't crack the starting line up will keep teams away.
Really? I find it amusing that under Greg(g) W/Greg B Monty was an up and coming DT and that under Blache/Palermo Monty was in the dog house.
Maybe the difference is in the coaching....
skinfan2k
March-2nd-2009, 10:53 AM
No kidding right? Reading today's MMQB something Bart Scott said reminded me of AP:
I asked Scott about the reports that after he'd made his deal with the Jets on Friday, he tried to get the Ravens to match it, or at least come within a few bucks. "I made no bones about it,'' he said. "I owe a lot of loyalty to the Ravens. They're the ones who gave me my chance seven years ago. And I was going to have to uproot my family, and we love Baltimore. If it was close, the home team would win.''
At the end, the Ravens were at least $3 million off the total package of the Jets, who signed Scott for six years and $48 million, most of which he actually should see. Seems close to me, but it wasn't close enough for Scott.
Its one thing to be off by a million, its another thing to be off by a couple million. AP is an ungrateful good for nothing piece of crap that I'm happy is off our team. To hell with players like that.
Wrong. Bart Scott wanted to be a leader of a defense and he said he didn't want to play 2nd riddle to Ray Ray or Ed Reed. He wanted to venture out to see if he could handle the leader position. He said that Baltimore had a lot of Craig Hodges and He was always gonna be in a Scottie Pippen role with Baltimore. Hell, Rex Ryan went to his house and told him that he wasnt going to leave without him
addicted
March-2nd-2009, 11:03 AM
Wrong. Bart Scott wanted to be a leader of a defense and he said he didn't want to play 2nd riddle to Ray Ray or Ed Reed. He wanted to venture out to see if he could handle the leader position. He said that Baltimore had a lot of Craig Hodges and He was always gonna be in a Scottie Pippen role with Baltimore. Hell, Rex Ryan went to his house and told him that he wasnt going to leave without him
What exactly am I wrong about by what I posted? I didn't leave anything off that story like your suggesting. I don't give a crap about Bart Scott. But since you want to argue it, had Baltimore offered the same contract and he still left then you'd have an arguement the two players aren't much different. The Ravens didn't offer the same contract so who the hell knows what he woulda done if they had. Money talks and BS walks. You just posted his justifications for taking more money and running.
The only reason I mentioned what Bart Scott said is because AP's name came up. I drew a comparrison between that piece of crap wannabe thug Antonio Pierce leaving us to go to NY for 1 million bucks because he wanted off the team, AP didn't leave for any other reason then that. My problem with AP is the guy went from the streets to playing his way onto the field and how does he show his gratitude to the one team that gave him a chance? He splits for a million and talks crap about the team for years.
I'm not wrong about saying AP is a piece of crap.
jrockster21
March-2nd-2009, 11:04 AM
I really hope we retain Monty. If he's got a stud like Haynesworth next to him, he could really do some damage.
J.Campbell17
March-2nd-2009, 11:14 AM
I really hope we retain Monty. If he's got a stud like Haynesworth next to him, he could really do some damage.
Yup, this is a huge opportunity for Monty. I don't know why he would want to go to Dallas when they just lost Chris Canty and their problems continue to increase in the locker room.
chow184
March-2nd-2009, 11:22 AM
Montgomery just needs to learn from haynesworth, and see how he does his job
Rocky52Mc
March-2nd-2009, 11:55 AM
I don't have anything important to say here.
But..
Haynesworth
Montgomery
Griffen
Golston
that D-line would be sick if we did a package like that..
HBnotBlades
March-2nd-2009, 12:15 PM
I'm tired of watching Montgomery get blown off the line of scrimmage by a guy weighing 30 lbs less than him. Golston, despite not having the imposing build or the natural athleticism, has turned into a significantly better player and I'm much more comfortable with him going forward. Yes, Montgomery still has potential, but he's going into his 4th year now and actually regressed last season.
Montgomery often graded out poorly in the post game heroes thread too (I think they do a fantastic job), for example:
http://www.postgameheroes.com/?p=3588
darrelgreenie
March-2nd-2009, 12:31 PM
I'm tired of watching Montgomery get blown off the line of scrimmage by a guy weighing 30 lbs less than him. Golston, despite not having the imposing build or the natural athleticism, has turned into a significantly better player and I'm much more comfortable with him going forward. Yes, Montgomery still has potential, but he's going into his 4th year now and actually regressed last season.
Montgomery often graded out poorly in the post game heroes thread too (I think they do a fantastic job), for example:
http://www.postgameheroes.com/?p=3588
Montgomery was another story…I’ve never seen a poorer effort from him before. I’m chalking it up to just a bad game on his end and not something that is indicative of things to come
^^ http://www.postgameheroes.com/?p=3588 (http://www.postgameheroes.com/?p=3588)
^^So basically you're gonna use his worst game as a measure of his overall performance?
:doh:
e16bball
March-2nd-2009, 12:36 PM
I'm tired of watching Montgomery get blown off the line of scrimmage by a guy weighing 30 lbs less than him. Golston, despite not having the imposing build or the natural athleticism, has turned into a significantly better player and I'm much more comfortable with him going forward. Yes, Montgomery still has potential, but he's going into his 4th year now and actually regressed last season.
Montgomery often graded out poorly in the post game heroes thread too (I think they do a fantastic job), for example:
http://www.postgameheroes.com/?p=3588
I tend to agree with you. Monty has more physical talent than Golston, but Golston outplayed him last season on the field.
For what it's worth, it seems the 'Skins agree. Golston was tendered at the 2nd round level, while Monty only got the low tender. To me, that's a pretty clear signal of where the priority lies.
HBnotBlades
March-2nd-2009, 01:18 PM
Montgomery was another story…I’ve never seen a poorer effort from him before. I’m chalking it up to just a bad game on his end and not something that is indicative of things to come ^^So basically you're gonna use his worst game as a measure of his overall performance?
:doh:
Except that it ended up not being just a bad game and it was indicative of things to come. It was the second game of the year after he was the starter the previous year so we had every reason to believe that game was an aberration, but it wasn't. He played poorly the entire season and Golston completely supplanted him in the lineup. Hence, as e16bball said, he's only tendered with a fifth round pick.
paloffs
March-2nd-2009, 01:30 PM
Trading Anthony Montgomery to the Cowboys ... would be one of the dumbest things we do!
Remember how we lost Antonio Pierce ... and look how productive he has been for the NY Giants.
Lol. First of all, we wouldn't be "trading" Montgomery. Second of all, Pierce went to the Giants through free agency.
wilco_holland
March-2nd-2009, 01:34 PM
Seems like the Boys fans like Anthony Montgomery and think they should offer him a contract since he was only tendered a 5th rounder. I can believe the Skins would only tender Monty as a 5th rounder. I did think they tendered him as a 2nd. If it's a 5th then that was a dumb move. I like Monty with Big Albert in together as I can't see anybody running up the middle on them and Monty should do even better since he wont have to take on the double teams. Hope he was tendered at least a 3rd. Here's the link:
http://mbd.scout.com/mb.aspx?s=112&f=1786&t=4004074
WTF......never never...we can't let Mont go to the girlz.
Beside, he can't play nose or 3-4DE.so why is my second qeustion.
Birdlives
March-2nd-2009, 01:43 PM
Actually, that may be what drives him away. He was a starter in 2007 and got moved to the bench in 2008. He voiced displeasure with that at the start of the season. I could imagine that if the Cowboys promised him a starting spot, he'd be gone.
He cant complain much. He was given a chance to start and lost to a player with more heart and determination. Golston was easily the better of the two last year. If the cowboys plan to start him, they're going to have to pay him like a starter. Unlikely in my book. They've got to consider how they're going to pay Ware and their cap space isn't limitless like tampa's. If they sign him to something we cant swallow I dont mind getting the pick. We could use another 5th.
Birdlives
March-2nd-2009, 01:44 PM
That's not much of a ringing endoursement is it?
Still makes him an adequate backup.
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