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bubba9497
March-2nd-2009, 11:14 PM
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NFL Insider: Snyder says these aren't the same old Redskins

By Jarrett Bell, USA TODAY


ASHBURN, Va. — A fat cigar dangled from Dan Snyder's left hand as he pondered dinner plans on Friday night, but consistent with his faith in Nicorette gum it was unlit.

This was a symbolic victory cigar for the aggressive Washington Redskins owner, having struck the deal that lured the biggest catch in free agency. Albert Haynesworth, 27, the former Tennessee Titans all-pro defensive tackle, is guaranteed a record $41 million on a seven-year contract that, with incentives, could pay $115 million.

Snyder, whose highest-grossing NFL franchise had laid off dozens of front-office employees this year, was the first NFL owner to bankroll a $100 million payroll in 2000. Now he's at it again, the first to sign a non-quarterback to a contract of at least $100 million.

"First of all, it's seven years," Snyder said, bubbly, in the lobby at team headquarters. "That's a long time frame. He's a young player, growing and getting better. We see him as a centerpiece for our D-line for the next seven years."

The franchise's three gleaming Super Bowl trophies were displayed at the front of the room during the press conference to introduce Haynesworth.That was so last millennium.

Since Snyder purchased the team in 1999, the Redskins have won just two playoff games. The most impressive victories during that span have come in the offseason, fueled by Snyder's checkbook. As hard as he's tried, winning big has been elusive.

In 2000, for instance, he signed aging stars Bruce Smith and Deion Sanders and former No. 1 overall quarterback Jeff ... en route to 8-8. And last summer's big move backfired, evidenced by Monday's release of Jason Taylor, the former all-pro defensive end obtained from the Miami Dolphins.

Snyder insists that Haynesworth's signing — complemented by a $55 million deal to keep cornerback DeAngelo Hall and a $27 million contract to bring back guard Derrick Dockery— reflects a new approach.

"We've learned our lesson," Snyder said. "This is not the old ways at all. This is what I should have done a long time ago. He's a very young man.

"I've learned that you don't do a seven-year contract with a player that's 33. You do it when he's 27. That's the big difference."

Snyder said he's also learned why there's such a premium on certain players.

"If you look at the Reggie Whites and Warren Sapps, the dominating D-tackle is probably a harder find," Snyder says, "than the pass rushers on the edge."

Funny that he should mention Sapp. The former all-pro, now a fledgling NFL Network analyst, was openly critical of Haynesworth last season. Sapp studied the tape from Tennessee's victory at Baltimore in October, and concluded that Haynesworth wasn't worthy of early MVP talk after failing to dominate Ravens second-year guard Ben Grubbs.

"That's his opinion," Haynesworth says. "I love it. It just drove me even more, to prove to the naysayers that I'm a good player."

Haynesworth saw Sapp at the Super Bowl. "He was giving me compliments," Haynesworth said. "And you have to watch the last game (against Baltimore, a playoff loss). Grubbs plays really low, and he kind of holds on to you ... When it came to the playoff game, I got low with him. And I drove him back into the ballcarrier a few times."

Haynesworth realizes he's timed the market perfectly. It is also his good fortune that Snyder was part of the bidding, which can always set the price.

Perhaps the biggest knock on Haynesworth, the Titans' first-round pick from Tennessee in 2002, questions the consistency of his motor. He's had both of his Pro Bowl seasons in contract years. No wonder Redskins coach Jim Zorn blurted, "Amen!" during the press conference as Haynesworth declared that he won't be a bust and that he is motivated to be regarded in the same light as Hall of Famers White and Smith.

"It's a bit scary, because there are a lot of dollars out there, and now that you've made it, you can kind of relax, can't you?" Zorn said after the press conference. "But the way he made it sound, it's not going to be that way. He has another whole motivation."

Someone asked defensive coordinator Greg Blache what he wanted to do next, having added Haynesworth.

"I'm going to Disney World," Blache quipped.

Blache, who might use Haynesworth at left end in some situations, was the Green Bay Packers' defensive line coach when White landed as the 1993 prize of free agency.

"Everybody made the same noise," Blache compared. " 'How much can you pay?' Blah, blah, blah. Reggie White proved the naysayers wrong. Albert — same university, same number, same explosiveness. I think he dominates the game in the same way."

Blache stopped short of saying he'll grade Haynesworth by a Reggie White standard. But the dollars say otherwise.

It was Blache that Snyder asked to move a bit closer to him, during the negotiations with Haynesworth's agent, Chad Speck, in the wee hours on Friday.

Some quick, X's and O's insight?

No, this was about the aroma. Blache had a cigar. And it was burning with hope.

G.A.C.O.L.B.
March-2nd-2009, 11:28 PM
I saw Sapp on the NFL Network today and he had nothing but good things to say about Haynesworth. Broke down film and everything.

Califan007
March-2nd-2009, 11:34 PM
Someone asked defensive coordinator Greg Blache what he wanted to do next, having added Haynesworth.

"I'm going to Disney World," Blache quipped.
:rotflmao:

NastyBoy
March-2nd-2009, 11:41 PM
So it took Dan 10 years to figure out siging a 33 year old to a long term deal isn't a good idea?

Awesome.

This guy is worth how much money? Goes to show you common sense isn't everything.

Califan007
March-2nd-2009, 11:59 PM
So it took Dan 10 years to figure out siging a 33 year old to a long term deal isn't a good idea?

Awesome.

This guy is worth how much money? Goes to show you common sense isn't everything.
He didn't say he just learned it this year. He said he wished he had learned it a long time ago.

Vicious
March-3rd-2009, 12:00 AM
:saber::saber:

Califan007
March-3rd-2009, 12:11 AM
^^ Who is that, David Caruso? lol

bubba9497
March-3rd-2009, 12:12 AM
^^ Who is that, David Caruso? lol


It sure ain't Greg Blache

http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/0gY59xyaub20Y/340x.jpg

FanboyOf91
March-3rd-2009, 12:16 AM
:rotflmao: @Vicious

NastyBoy
March-3rd-2009, 12:30 AM
He didn't say he just learned it this year. He said he wished he had learned it a long time ago.

Umm.......thanks for the clarification.

Clearly, you didn't get the sarcasm in my post. :D

iMeast
March-3rd-2009, 12:41 AM
While the signing of AH is better than the old men of 2000, I am still not buying it.

HTTR

SKINchiefer
March-3rd-2009, 12:47 AM
mmm, burning with hope..

Jumbo
March-3rd-2009, 12:49 AM
That Caruso is my favorite one of yours yet, Vicious.

Califan007
March-3rd-2009, 12:59 AM
Umm.......thanks for the clarification.

Clearly, you didn't get the sarcasm in my post. :D
Two years ago, Snyder said almost the exact same thing when a reporter talked about him trying to "buy a Super Bowl"...and two years ago, a number of Skins fans said what you said just now...but were dead serious lol. I can't tell the difference around here anymore lol :cool:...

eljeasel
March-3rd-2009, 01:15 AM
:saber::saber:

Hes putting on a pair of shades WHILE WEARING A PAIR OF SHADES

SO AWESOME HE HAS TO WEAR DOUBLE SHADES

also: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_sarYH0z948

Vicious
March-3rd-2009, 01:25 AM
Hes putting on a pair of shades WHILE WEARING A PAIR OF SHADES

SO AWESOME HE HAS TO WEAR DOUBLE SHADES

also: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_sarYH0z948

lol there is one that addresses that but I cant post it because it has poor language

REDSKINZ-RIDEORDIE
March-3rd-2009, 01:37 AM
Blache, who might use Haynesworth at left end in some situations, was the Green Bay Packers' defensive line coach when White landed as the 1993 prize of free agency.




Wow, I didnt know that....

Cherick
March-3rd-2009, 01:39 AM
:notworthy: :notworthy: @ Blache "I'm going to Disney World"


I want to hear those words at the end of this season from Jason Campbell............after winning the Super Bowl....hell yeah! :fingersx:

thesubmittedone
March-3rd-2009, 03:12 AM
I can honestly say I really like what we've done the last three offseasons starting with 07 where we brought in Fletcher and Smoot, found an unknown in Heyer, and drafted Laron Landry and HB Blades.

In 08 we focused in on the draft and we've got a lot of pass-catchers from it that have a ton of potential. Not to mention an absolute great find in Horton, and Moore has the potential to be a good safety too. The only bad (really, hasty not bad) decision was Jason Taylor, and it's a bit understandable because of the situation we found ourselves in... people forget we didn't just trade the draft picks cuz we were absolutely in love with him and wanted him for whatever it costed, we were in a depressed state and made a poor decision.

Now, we've made all the right moves so far this offseason, imo. I really don't care about how many people want to bash the FO around here since it's become the cool and popular thing to do... they're doing a good job and have been for a while now.

Peregrine
March-3rd-2009, 10:37 AM
Wait, Blache may be using AH at left end in some situations?

That, I would like to see!

kvarlo12000
March-3rd-2009, 10:47 AM
I can honestly say I really like what we've done the last three offseasons starting with 07 where we brought in Fletcher and Smoot, found an unknown in Heyer, and drafted Laron Landry and HB Blades.

In 08 we focused in on the draft and we've got a lot of pass-catchers from it that have a ton of potential. Not to mention an absolute great find in Horton, and Moore has the potential to be a good safety too. The only bad (really, hasty not bad) decision was Jason Taylor, and it's a bit understandable because of the situation we found ourselves in... people forget we didn't just trade the draft picks cuz we were absolutely in love with him and wanted him for whatever it costed, we were in a depressed state and made a poor decision.

Now, we've made all the right moves so far this offseason, imo. I really don't care about how many people want to bash the FO around here since it's become the cool and popular thing to do... they're doing a good job and have been for a while now.



I completely agree with you. The last three years have been good offseasons.

Califan007
March-3rd-2009, 11:08 AM
I can honestly say I really like what we've done the last three offseasons starting with 07 where we brought in Fletcher and Smoot, found an unknown in Heyer, and drafted Laron Landry and HB Blades.

In 08 we focused in on the draft and we've got a lot of pass-catchers from it that have a ton of potential. Not to mention an absolute great find in Horton, and Moore has the potential to be a good safety too. The only bad (really, hasty not bad) decision was Jason Taylor, and it's a bit understandable because of the situation we found ourselves in... people forget we didn't just trade the draft picks cuz we were absolutely in love with him and wanted him for whatever it costed, we were in a depressed state and made a poor decision.

Now, we've made all the right moves so far this offseason, imo. I really don't care about how many people want to bash the FO around here since it's become the cool and popular thing to do... they're doing a good job and have been for a while now.
I would agree...I haven't had an issue with anything done in the offseason over the last 3 years. And true to their word, pretty much all of the FAs signed over the last three years have been players that coaches have had personal experience with. Fletcher, Smoot, Dockery, Hall and AH have all worked with at least one of our coaches, coordinators or assistants. The few we picked up or traded for who had not--Taylor, James--are no longer on the team.

kvarlo12000
March-3rd-2009, 11:13 AM
James--are no longer on the team.


In the teams defense they only gave up a 7th round pick to see were he was at. If they didn't do that trade he wouldn't have cleared waivers all the way to us.

Farbod21
March-3rd-2009, 11:16 AM
Thanks, stole for sig!

End2round2sanders
March-3rd-2009, 11:40 AM
Snyder hasn't learned. Since when do old people learn how to change their ways? Add some DLine depth and address the Oline in the draft and Ill be happy but knowing this franchise, we'll address the RB position maybe draft another reciever and a Cb

GhostofAlvinWalton
March-3rd-2009, 12:12 PM
I would agree...I haven't had an issue with anything done in the offseason over the last 3 years. And true to their word, pretty much all of the FAs signed over the last three years have been players that coaches have had personal experience with. Fletcher, Smoot, Dockery, Hall and AH have all worked with at least one of our coaches, coordinators or assistants. The few we picked up or traded for who had not--Taylor, James--are no longer on the team.

James played for D-line coach Palmero at Wisconsin. :2cents:

Skinsfor4
March-3rd-2009, 12:18 PM
Wait, Blache may be using AH at left end in some situations?

That, I would like to see!


Pretty versatile guy,Id like it to.:helmet:

prufRock
March-3rd-2009, 12:45 PM
I can honestly say I really like what we've done the last three offseasons starting with 07 where we brought in Fletcher and Smoot, found an unknown in Heyer, and drafted Laron Landry and HB Blades.

In 08 we focused in on the draft and we've got a lot of pass-catchers from it that have a ton of potential. Not to mention an absolute great find in Horton, and Moore has the potential to be a good safety too. The only bad (really, hasty not bad) decision was Jason Taylor, and it's a bit understandable because of the situation we found ourselves in... people forget we didn't just trade the draft picks cuz we were absolutely in love with him and wanted him for whatever it costed, we were in a depressed state and made a poor decision.

Now, we've made all the right moves so far this offseason, imo. I really don't care about how many people want to bash the FO around here since it's become the cool and popular thing to do... they're doing a good job and have been for a while now.

I think those are good points about Fletcher and Smoot, but I wouldn't say the FO is doing a good job necesarily. They've continually ignored the offensive line, when the signs were very clear that age was creeping in starting two years ago.
The Taylor move isn't completely by "Act Of God" defense, however. Phillip Daniels rarely plays an entire season, and is on the plus side of 30. If Demetric Evans wasn't an acceptable backup, they should have addressed it prior to Daniels' injury.
I still think there's some disfunction at Redskins park. Vinny may put a plan together, but if Snyder decides he wants someone like Jason Taylor or Albert Haynesworth, then that's the end of it.

bikie
March-3rd-2009, 01:53 PM
"I've learned that you don't do a seven-year contract with a player that's 33. You do it when he's 27. That's the big difference."



HAHAHAHAHAH... took them 16 years to learn that, did it... interesting..

Valenski
March-3rd-2009, 02:02 PM
Snyder makes me SICK and continues to run the Redskins franchise into the ground!!!

alwaysaskin
March-3rd-2009, 03:56 PM
I like what Haynesworth said about Grubbs though, it shows that he is serious and breaks down the film on his opponents till he finds a week spot, I like that type of Player

Caliredskinsfan
March-3rd-2009, 04:07 PM
:saber::saber:

Ah man, that's the best image ever! :point2sky:point2sky

Reaganaut
March-3rd-2009, 09:35 PM
At least it is still defense. Their offensive moves have been lame except for Portis.

DaGhost
March-3rd-2009, 09:58 PM
At least it is still defense. Their offensive moves have been lame except for Portis.

you don't think santana was a quality pickup from the jets?

onnie007
March-3rd-2009, 10:06 PM
blah blah blah.....none of those past moves have squat to do with AH and whether he will perform. I think this was a great move and I'm happy. HTTR.

Yusuf06
March-4th-2009, 12:04 AM
The interesting thing about this article to me is that Snyder's comments seem to imply that he's taking an active role personnel decisions. And here we were thinking he was letting Vinny Bug-Eyes run things...well, some of us were thinking that anyway. ;)

NastyBoy
March-4th-2009, 12:10 AM
Two years ago, Snyder said almost the exact same thing when a reporter talked about him trying to "buy a Super Bowl"...and two years ago, a number of Skins fans said what you said just now...but were dead serious lol. I can't tell the difference around here anymore lol :cool:...

I hear ya, Cali. It's all good........I was only being a wise guy, but understand why you could have mistaken that as serious given the tone of threads of the past.

SkinsFTW
March-4th-2009, 05:54 AM
The interesting thing about this article to me is that Snyder's comments seem to imply that he's taking an active role personnel decisions. And here we were thinking he was letting Vinny Bug-Eyes run things...well, some of us were thinking that anyway. ;)

Really? Nothing has changed. Snyder is still playing Madden. The difference, according to him, is that he's playing Madden by overpaying younger players now.

tone_dubbz
March-4th-2009, 07:34 AM
"We've learned our lesson," Snyder said. "This is not the old ways at all. This is what I should have done a long time ago. He's a very young man.

"I've learned that you don't do a seven-year contract with a player that's 33. You do it when he's 27. That's the big difference."

Well how old was Archdeluxe and Lloyd when you signed them?

I hope for the sake of the fans, that AH doesn't turn out to be a bust. I liked resigning Hall, we needed him back.

Skins PR
March-4th-2009, 07:48 AM
blah blah blah.....none of those past moves have squat to do with AH and whether he will perform.

That's not exactly true. There is a reason that we continually bust on our free agents / trades and it has to do with...

1. A fundamental strategic flaw.

2. The culture that has been built by Snyder.

Ernie5
March-4th-2009, 11:07 AM
So it took Dan 10 years to figure out siging a 33 year old to a long term deal isn't a good idea?

Awesome.

This guy is worth how much money? Goes to show you common sense isn't everything.

Actually, it didn't take 10 years since he hasn't signed an older free agent to a long-term deal in many many years.
2000 stands in isolation as a uniquely dumb off-season for this franchise.

Veretax
March-4th-2009, 01:32 PM
The taylor move ranks up there with the RB we picked up a year or two ago because we were worried about CPs health. What was his name?

#98QBKiller
March-4th-2009, 01:37 PM
I saw Sapp on the NFL Network today and he had nothing but good things to say about Haynesworth. Broke down film and everything.


As long as Haynesworth stays healthy, he can potentially win us a few more games by himself. Not to mention the addition of Hall and whomever else we add to the defense.

Rhodus333
March-4th-2009, 01:42 PM
"Meet the new boss
Same as the old boss.....

We don't get fooled again"

https://www.nakasha-spain.com/shop/images/THE%20WHO%20BBC.jpg

ttr77
March-4th-2009, 01:54 PM
Well, they certainly are the same in the win/loss record.

But I guess that's not important.