SI.com: Why Broncos nixed Redskins, Browns deals

[ucfSKINS]

I searched and did not see this posted. It can be moved to a different thread if deemed necessary. Kinda interesting. Have at it!

Why Broncos nixed Redskins, Browns deals (http://www.fannation.com/truth_and_rumors/view/97810-why-broncos-nixed-redskins-browns-deals)

http://www.fannation.com/truth_and_rumors/view/97810-why-broncos-nixed-redskins-browns-deals?eref=fromSI

In the end, Denver did not want Jason Campbell (http://www.fannation.com/tags/show_tag/2254). And that's why Jay Cutler (http://www.fannation.com/tags/show_tag/2794) is headed to Chicago. According to a source involved in the discussions, the Redskins (http://www.fannation.com/tags/show_tag/28) were closing in on a three-way deal Thursday afternoon that involved Cleveland quarterback Brady Quinn (http://www.fannation.com/tags/show_tag/7775) going to Denver. The source said he was told that the deal was likely to happen soon. The Examiner reported that a deal was close. Indeed, a CBS affiliate in Denver also reported that Jay Cutler (http://www.fannation.com/tags/show_tag/2794) had told them he was told by his agent that he was going to Washington. ESPN also reported that the Redskins (http://www.fannation.com/tags/show_tag/28) were at the top of the list and a deal could happen at any time. However, the deal involving the Browns (http://www.fannation.com/tags/show_tag/5) unraveled, prompting Chicago to jump back in and offer a less-complicated deal, knowing the Broncos (http://www.fannation.com/tags/show_tag/7) liked Bears (http://www.fannation.com/tags/show_tag/3) quarterback Kyle Orton (http://www.fannation.com/tags/show_tag/2335). The source said Denver's preference of quarterbacks was Quinn and then Orton. They were not high on Campbell. So, rather than do a three-way deal with Washington and another team, the Bears (http://www.fannation.com/tags/show_tag/3), according to an NFL source, called to offer Orton, two first-round draft picks, and a third-round pick in exchange for Cutler and a fifth-round pick.
Washington Examiner (http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/sports/Redskins-Cutler-trade-42337677.html)

...And yes, it was all one paragraph :)

[Rdskn4Lyf21]

I saw this was in "Truth and Rumors"....which one is it?

[ntotoro]

Not true. It's all rumors. Everyone is lying. There was never any deal and it was never serious, at least that's what I read here.

[Rdskn4Lyf21]

Not true. It's all rumors. Everyone is lying. There was never any deal and it was never serious, at least that's what I read here.

:hysterical:

[SkinsTerps26]

Snyder and Vinny never lie!

[ucfSKINS]

I saw this was in "Truth and Rumors"....which one is it?


was that a rhetorical question? ;)

[CPortJGibbs89]

Not true. It's all rumors. Everyone is lying. There was never any deal and it was never serious, at least that's what I read here.Vinny said the team had no interest in trading for Cutler so its gotta to be a rumor. :silly:

Will people that believe every word that comes out of Vinnys mouth finialy realize the guy is never going to tell the truth about stuff like this. I dont feel he has to tell the truth either.

[mnb123]

I would be more worried if Vinny came out and told us what they offered.

Then I would know that he must be lying

[jrfriedm]

There is only one team out of the 32 NFL teams that like Campbell, unfortanetly; the Redskins are that team.

[mnb123]

There is only one team out of the 32 NFL teams that like Campbell, unfortanetly; the Redskins are that team.


What team would that be?

[jnhay]

There is only one team out of the 32 NFL teams that like Campbell, unfortanetly; the Redskins are that team.

Doesn't the paragraph imply that the Browns wanted him? Or would we have just given all our picks to the Browns in order for them to get rid of Quinn?


What team would that be?

The consequences of ADD.

[dreamshatterer]

There is only one team out of the 32 NFL teams that like Campbell, unfortanetly; the Redskins are that team.


Its unfortunate that you don’t know how to spell unfortunately. :D

[pocampo]

Re: JLC: Redskins Trying to Land Cutler (Updated)
MaCdanials does not want JC he wants somebody he can mold. He has had his eyes on somebody for a long time, and its not JC!!!

Has you can see we where talking about this 3 days ago. JC was the reason Cutler is not in DC right now!!! we all knew no one wanted him. I know it sucks for us.

[Santana_89]

There is only one team out of the 32 NFL teams that like Campbell, unfortanetly; the Redskins are that team.

:( Yet you have a segment of the Redskins fanbase who call others "haters" because we see what the rest of the league sees.

[thesubmittedone]

I've seen this one paragraph a few times already.

[Rocky52Mc]

Don't listen to it!

http://tadbarker.com/ack1.jpg

[Rocky52Mc]

Re: JLC: Redskins Trying to Land Cutler (Updated)
MaCdanials does not want JC he wants somebody he can mold. He has had his eyes on somebody for a long time, and its not JC!!!

Has you can see we where talking about this 3 days ago. JC was the reason Cutler is not in DC right now!!! we all knew no one wanted him. I know it sucks for us.

I guess you could say it sucks for us right now..right. Being a Redskins fan and what you're used to. I could just call you a baby and assume Mommy didn't buy you that shiny toy.

But in a sense, I like the idea that not exactly everyone is interested in our franchise QB. If he pans out this year, he'll come cheaper.

[[[ghost]]]

This makes me very sad.

The fact that the Redskins were on TOP of Cutler's list of potential teams makes me wish he was here.

In the end, I still have faith in Campbell. Hopefully he can get pissed off enough, and take a **** the world attitude.

[281skins]

In the end, Denver did not want Jason Campbell (http://www.fannation.com/tags/show_tag/2254).

a three-way deal Thursday afternoon that involved Cleveland quarterback Brady Quinn (http://www.fannation.com/tags/show_tag/7775) going to Denver.

that makes sense.

[BigMike619]

so Im to believe they wanted Orton over Campbell?

if so then the donkeys can get what they deserve...theyre going to be even worse then the chefs and faiders

[Bang]

Why do we respect the opinion of the Broncos? Unless I miss my guess, they just pissed off the Elway Heir they've been desperate for going on ten years now, and are now looking at Kyle Orton as their QB.
The picks they got will have to be used in large part to shore up an appalling defense, (29th overall. :pooh:) with the hope they'll improve enough to compensate for the significant downgrade at QB. Last year they're second in the NFL on offense, 3rd overall in passing. And remember, seven RBs went to IR. Does anyone honestly think Orton's getting that kind of production?
Consider their defense is SO bad that they HAD to be that kind of offense to just break even at 8-8.

They screwed the pooch with Cutler, and have weakened their team considerably. IF they get immediate production out of the defense one would think they'll use these picks on, how good will that D have to get to make the team a contender?

There's no reason at all that we should feel embarrassed because the Denver Broncos didn't want our quarterback. Hell, they didn't want THEIR quarterback, and he's one of the most promising players in the league. If anything we should be relieved they don't think much of JC. It's a better omen.

~Bang

[The Rook]

Why do we respect the opinion of the Broncos? Unless I miss my guess, they just pissed off the Elway Heir they've been desperate for going on ten years now, and are now looking at Kyle Orton as their QB.
The picks they got will have to be used in large part to shore up an appalling defense, (29th overall. P-U) with the hope they'll improve enough to compensate for the significant downgrade at QB. Last year they're second in the NFL on offense, 3rd overall in passing. And remember, seven RBs went to IR. Does anyone honestly think Orton's getting that kind of production?
Consider their defense is SO bad that they HAD to be that kind of offense to just break even at 8-8.

They screwed the pooch with Cutler, and have weakened their team considerably. IF they get immediate production out of the defense one would think they'll use these picks on, how good will that D have to get to make the team a contender?

There's no reason at all that we should feel embarrassed because the Denver Broncos didn't want our quarterback. Hell, they didn't want THEIR quarterback, and he's one of the best one's in the league. If anything we should be relieved they don't think much of JC. It's a better omen.

~Bang

Pay attention people - Bang has put it in perspective.

The only thing Denver can hope for is that they will have different people picking their draft. Their recent selections have been as stellar as ours. :doh:







:helmet: The Rook

[bubba9497]

There's no reason at all that we should feel embarrassed because the Denver Broncos didn't want our quarterback. Hell, they didn't want THEIR quarterback, and he's one of the most promising players in the league. If anything we should be relieved they don't think much of JC. It's a better omen.

~Bang


classic line :hysterical:


I see a new Bang Cartoon coming soon :D

[Bang]

classic line :hysterical:


I see a new Bang Cartoon coming soon :D

There is, I plan on starting it this weekend. For those who remember the REALLY old days,, remember poking a Bear fan with a stick?
Well, a little bit of role reversal is in order.

:cool2:

~Bang

[TheLongshot]

Re: JLC: Redskins Trying to Land Cutler (Updated)
MaCdanials does not want JC he wants somebody he can mold. He has had his eyes on somebody for a long time, and its not JC!!!

Has you can see we where talking about this 3 days ago. JC was the reason Cutler is not in DC right now!!! we all knew no one wanted him. I know it sucks for us.

I didn't know that Denver was considered all the teams in the NFL. :silly:

[Xero21]

Wait, am I reading this wrong?

"In the end, Denver did not want Jason Campbell. And that's why Jay Cutler is headed to Chicago. According to a source involved in the discussions, the Redskins were closing in on a three-way deal Thursday afternoon that involved Cleveland quarterback Brady Quinn going to Denver."

It says that Denver did not want Campbell, and that's why the deal fell through, but Denver was going to get Quinn and not Campbell?

So then why did the deal fall through?

[MLSKINS]

Bang, that post is so full of win.

"screwed the pooch" llam

[HeHateMe]

Sheesh. Poor JC.

Look on the bright side, what doesn't kill him should only make him stronger.

But seriously, that was a steep price and I think the Redskins are in a better position with Campbell AND those picks than Cutler without those picks.

[Park City Skins]

The saying "The truth lies somewhere in the middle" seems to be meant for times like this.

[AirMayo21]

Just goes to show that JC isn't valued in the NFL. I mean, Orton over Campbell. At the beginning of last year, I'm not going to lie, I didn't even know who Kyle Orton was.

[TheLongshot]

Just goes to show that JC isn't valued in the NFL. I mean, Orton over Campbell. At the beginning of last year, I'm not going to lie, I didn't even know who Kyle Orton was.

Again, where does Denver = the whole NFL?

At the very least, Cleveland thought Campbell was valuable to include him in this deal.

[No Excuses]

Denver dug itself this hole by offering Cutler for Cassell. They wanted to trade a bonafide young Pro Bowl QB for a one year wonder. I'm not a Campbell fan but he is much better than Orton at everything.

[skinsarethebest]

C'mon, Jason. I hope you light it up when the Broncos come to town. Prove those d-bags wrong with a 5TD, 400 yd passing performance.

HTTR!

[DRSmith]

I heard they also wanted Pez and his chicken wings

[Cruemans]

Man I misread that. I thought you said prove those d-bags wrong with an std!

[Art]

Wow, what a tremendous surprise. The exact same report from a different media source. Huh. It's almost like these guys are writing stuff for each other.

[Art]

Wait, am I reading this wrong?

"In the end, Denver did not want Jason Campbell. And that's why Jay Cutler is headed to Chicago. According to a source involved in the discussions, the Redskins were closing in on a three-way deal Thursday afternoon that involved Cleveland quarterback Brady Quinn going to Denver."

It says that Denver did not want Campbell, and that's why the deal fell through, but Denver was going to get Quinn and not Campbell?

So then why did the deal fall through?

Ding.

Ding.

Ding.

People baffle me.

This ain't hard fellas.

CAMPBELL WAS NEVER INVOLVED in the ONE deal we actually were involved with. ONCE that fell through, Denver told everyone who'd listen we were giving them Campbell and two firsts and to be ready for a news announcement in 20 minutes.

And, then, hey, the Bears improved their offer.

Well played Broncos. Suckered Bears.

[zskins]

:( Yet you have a segment of the Redskins fanbase who call others "haters" because we see what the rest of the league sees.

You are a hater. I tell you. Right.:D

[Skin Deep]

I'm sure this has been mentioned before, but doesn't this show Cutlers' clout vs. Campbells? Essentially the same thing has now been done to Campbell as was done to Cutler to cause Jay to force a trade. But it's highly unlikely Campbell could act in the same manner. Does that point give some perspective of the perceived talent level of these two players?

If we're honest with each other, the jury's pretty much still out on Campbell, and this will be his year to make or break himself. I think the league is pretty much convinced that Cutler can be very productive against NFL defenses week in and week out.

[modazfuk]

Wait, am I reading this wrong?

"In the end, Denver did not want Jason Campbell. And that's why Jay Cutler is headed to Chicago. According to a source involved in the discussions, the Redskins were closing in on a three-way deal Thursday afternoon that involved Cleveland quarterback Brady Quinn going to Denver."

It says that Denver did not want Campbell, and that's why the deal fell through, but Denver was going to get Quinn and not Campbell?

So then why did the deal fall through?

We could have figured out on our own Denver did not want Campbell hence the bringing in of the Browns who have a QB Denver wanted more than Orton.

What is unknown is what caused the Browns to develop "cold feet" at the last minute? The 3-way deal fell apart because of the Browns - not because of the Bears.

[Park City Skins]

Wait, am I reading this wrong?

"In the end, Denver did not want Jason Campbell. And that's why Jay Cutler is headed to Chicago. According to a source involved in the discussions, the Redskins were closing in on a three-way deal Thursday afternoon that involved Cleveland quarterback Brady Quinn going to Denver."

It says that Denver did not want Campbell, and that's why the deal fell through, but Denver was going to get Quinn and not Campbell?

So then why did the deal fall through?
:rubeyes: I had to read that 4 times just to make sure I was reading that right. Good catch. Unsure if that was just an oops in the editing or somebody really got them self all kinds of confused,(more so than I even. ;) ).

[Skin Deep]

What is unknown is what caused the Browns to develop "cold feet" at the last minute? The 3-way deal fell apart because of the Browns - not because of the Bears.

Good point. This has yet to be discussed, except perhaps in Cleveland.

[Jimbo]

Ding.

Ding.

Ding.

People baffle me.

This ain't hard fellas.

CAMPBELL WAS NEVER INVOLVED in the ONE deal we actually were involved with. ONCE that fell through, Denver told everyone who'd listen we were giving them Campbell and two firsts and to be ready for a news announcement in 20 minutes.

And, then, hey, the Bears improved their offer.

Well played Broncos. Suckered Bears.

Perhaps this explains why a friend in Cleveland told me the Browns wanted Cooley and our 2nd round pick in 2010 but Denver also wanted that 2nd round pick in 2010 in addition to our first round picks this year and next year. I had "assumed" Campbell was supposed to be part of that trade and so did he. I'm guessing the Broncos would have thrown that 5th round pick that went to the Bears at the Browns.

My friend swears he had "inside" info from the Browns that the trade was to go like this. (I didn't believe a word of it so I never bothered to mention it yesterday).

Cleveland was going to get Campbell and Cooley (and possibly that 5th round pick from Broncos)

Denver was going to get Quinn, 2009 first round pick, 2010 first round pick and 2010 second round pick.

Skins just get Cutler.

He swears the unraveling was that the Browns wanted that 2010 2nd round pick and so did the Broncos. Now I'm wondering if that was in lieu of Campbell.

If any of this probable garbage is true then that trade for Taylor last year could have been what prevented this from happening. Then again, that's an awful lot to give up and I don't see how we could have traded Cooley without incurring a huge cap hit.

[PeterMP]

Why do we respect the opinion of the Broncos? Unless I miss my guess, they just pissed off the Elway Heir they've been desperate for going on ten years now, and are now looking at Kyle Orton as their QB.
The picks they got will have to be used in large part to shore up an appalling defense, (29th overall. :pooh:) with the hope they'll improve enough to compensate for the significant downgrade at QB. Last year they're second in the NFL on offense, 3rd overall in passing. And remember, seven RBs went to IR. Does anyone honestly think Orton's getting that kind of production?
Consider their defense is SO bad that they HAD to be that kind of offense to just break even at 8-8.

They screwed the pooch with Cutler, and have weakened their team considerably. IF they get immediate production out of the defense one would think they'll use these picks on, how good will that D have to get to make the team a contender?

There's no reason at all that we should feel embarrassed because the Denver Broncos didn't want our quarterback. Hell, they didn't want THEIR quarterback, and he's one of the most promising players in the league. If anything we should be relieved they don't think much of JC. It's a better omen.

~Bang

Just because they don't know how to manage personalities at all doesn't mean that they can't evaluate QBs.

I'm not saying they were right or wrong (or even that this truth or rumor is the truth), but I know a number of people that are really good at doing something individually, but if you give them a group of people and expect them to scale up what they are doing based on the group that they fail miserably because they can't manage people.

Just because they can't manage a QB doesn't mean that they can't look at one and tell you if he's going to be good or not.

[Art]

The deal was not that hefty.

Cooley, Campbell, two firsts and a second for Cutler? Uh. Noppers. Not even close. I do believe it's totally accurate Cleveland felt it wasn't getting enough.

[Xero21]

We could have figured out on our own Denver did not want Campbell hence the bringing in of the Browns who have a QB Denver wanted more than Orton.

What is unknown is what caused the Browns to develop "cold feet" at the last minute? The 3-way deal fell apart because of the Browns - not because of the Bears.

I get that, but as Art and Park City Skins have noticed too, the article does not make sense.

It says that, because Denver did not want Campbell, the 3-way deal was not completed, thus allowing Chicago to get back into trade talks with the Broncos.

However, according to the details of the deal, it says that Denver was never even offered Campbell; Brady Quinn was the guy that was supposed to go to Denver.

So what really happened to make the deal fall through? Was there even a 3 way deal? Was Cleveland the team that really did not want Campbell? It doesn't add up.

[Skin Deep]

Cooley, Campbell, two firsts and a second for Cutler? Uh. Noppers.

I think Redskin Nation would have absolutely self-destructed if that was given away in exchange. Wow.

[modazfuk]

I get that, but as Art and Park City Skins have noticed too, the article does not make sense.

It says that, because Denver did not want Campbell, the 3-way deal was not completed, thus allowing Chicago to get back into trade talks with the Broncos.

However, according to the details of the deal, it says that Denver was never even offered Campbell; Brady Quinn was the guy that was supposed to go to Denver.

So what really happened to make the deal fall through? Was there even a 3 way deal? Was Cleveland the team that really did not want Campbell? It doesn't add up.

Yeah, the author of the article seems mixed up. Denver appeared to be sitting pretty with the draft picks + Quinn, so they weren't the road block.

But as Art just said up above, "I do believe it's totally accurate Cleveland felt it wasn't getting enough."

It makes perfect sense that there was a 3-way deal with the Browns being key.

What everyone wants to know is what did Snyder offer (in addition to the Broncos offer) to the Browns and why didn't he up the ante or perhaps he was powerless to do so? (shrug)

[Jimbo]

The deal was not that hefty.

Cooley, Campbell, two firsts and a second for Cutler? Uh. Noppers. Not even close. I do believe it's totally accurate Cleveland felt it wasn't getting enough.

As you pointed out, Campbell wasn't actually part of that deal. Campbell was "assumed" by my buddy in Cleveland. Cooley, two firsts and a second. The argument was over who would get the second.....or so I was told. I still don't believe any of it so take it for what it's worth......probably a stale ham sammich buoyed by a decent cup of Dunkin Donuts java.

[SkinsFanMania]

Next year Campbell is going to have a career year and Kyle Orton is going to fall flat on his face and be replaced by Chris Simms or he won't win the job altogether. The Broncos won't win more than 6 games next season.

[Park City Skins]

I get that, but as Art and Park City Skins have noticed too, the article does not make sense.

It says that, because Denver did not want Campbell, the 3-way deal was not completed, thus allowing Chicago to get back into trade talks with the Broncos.

However, according to the details of the deal, it says that Denver was never even offered Campbell; Brady Quinn was the guy that was supposed to go to Denver.

So what really happened to make the deal fall through? Was there even a 3 way deal? Was Cleveland the team that really did not want Campbell? It doesn't add up.
I said it yesterday a couple of times. I just wasn't convinced that the Redskins were going to actually go through with a trade. As soon as I read a report stating that Cutler's agent was sure he was going to be a Redskin,I laughed and said okay. Definitely not. I suspected after things were through,and still think the Redskins weren't going to up the ante is one reason for the deal falling through.

[modazfuk]

Poor kid doesn't look very happy

http://i411.photobucket.com/albums/pp195/nparrot/Cutler.jpg?t=1238804885

[Jimbo]

Well, you have to admit it was fun while it lasted. I LOVE this stuff. Who knows if it would have made our team better but it sure was fun to argue about.

What's next on the agenda? Surely something will come up BEFORE the draft. ;)

[Jimbo]

Poor kid doesn't look very happy

http://i411.photobucket.com/albums/pp195/nparrot/Cutler.jpg?t=1238804885

LMAO!!! OK, who shot his dog?:bearsuck:

[flock53]

so Im to believe they wanted Orton over Campbell?

if so then the donkeys can get what they deserve...theyre going to be even worse then the chefs and faiders
NOT SO FAST...... where did Orton play college? Purdue. What kind of system does Tiller run? Spread. What does McDaniels run? Spread. Makes A LOT of sense now. Orton does have a good record as a starter, 21-12 I believe. McDaniels also thinks he can take a "no-name" and make him into one. Brady (6th rd) and Cassel. Yeah, Brady was a Weiss project, but Im sure McDaniels was on staff is some lesser role.

[HigSkin]

Poor kid doesn't look very happy

http://i411.photobucket.com/albums/pp195/nparrot/Cutler.jpg?t=1238804885

Wow, he looks like he needs a shot!

[Park City Skins]

http://i411.photobucket.com/albums/pp195/nparrot/Cutler.jpg?t=1238804885





http://www.funnyville.com/funny-pictures/funny-cat-shower.jpg

[Justin in NoCal]

Let's try to avoid those kinds of drive bye's. Especially if you're not going to support it. Thanks.

[modazfuk]

Imagine the heartbreak. Bus Cook is on the phone telling him he's minutes away from throwing the ball for the most free-spending NFL owner, then a few minutes later - Sorry Jay, you're going to the mother of all quarterback graveyards.

[flock53]

Obviously the Broncos front office is full of racists.
SHUT UP, with that ignorance, if there whole roster was white, MAYBE id hear ya. SHUT UP!!!!!!!!

[jnhay]

SHUT UP, with that stupidity, if there whole roster was white, MAYBE id hear ya. SHUT UP!!!!!!!!

Calm down.:chair:

[Park City Skins]

Hey flock. Wanna go back and edit that with the more relaxed,calmer version? The one you would post after taking a few breaths. Like 20 of them.




Note to others. Let's ignore" that" post for now. That's all it's worth.

[flock53]

Calm down.:chair:

[Park City Skins]

Maybe the smiley gettin the beat down should be black, you calm down. :doh:
Not exactly the answer I was looking for there sport.

[flock53]

Hey flock. Wanna go back and edit that with the more relaxed,calmer version? The one you would post after taking a few breaths. Like 20 of them.




Note to others. Let's ignore" that" post for now. That's all it's worth.
Maybe delete all posts that fire racism shots, my post didnt even spew profanities. I cant stand the racism card always being played so blindly every time something doesnt go an African Americans way. Andy Reid is one too cause he benched McNabb and Tennessee for Young and Vikings for Jackson.

[Park City Skins]

Maybe delete all posts that fire racism shots, my post didnt even spew profanities. I cant stand the racism card always being played so blindly every time something doesnt go an African Americans way. Andy Reid is one too cause he benched McNabb and Tennessee for Young and Vikings for Jackson.
Doesn't have to contain profanities to be a problem. You were asked to fix your response and you didn't. Not good.

[flock53]

Doesn't have to contain profanities to be a problem. You were asked to fix your response and you didn't. Not good.
The problem is you guys (mods) having a problem. Freedom of speech only applies to some I guess. My post may have only offended that 1 guy, but his ignorance coulda offended a lot more.Because I told him to shut up and called his "remark" stupid. I cant believe I got sent to my room w/out dinner for that :doh: WOOOOOW

[Dah-Dee]

Imagine the heartbreak. Bus Cook is on the phone telling him he's minutes away from throwing the ball for the most free-spending NFL owner, then a few minutes later - Sorry Jay, you're going to the mother of all quarterback graveyards.


I'm not so sure Cutler sees it that way; grew up a Bears fan and wants to "go home." But yeah, I hope he has fun throwing to .... er, who exactly will he be throwing to?

[Dah-Dee]

What is unknown is what caused the Browns to develop "cold feet" at the last minute? The 3-way deal fell apart because of the Browns - not because of the Bears.

I saw somewhere in this plethora of articles circulating that 'sources close to the Cutler negotiations' said the Browns and Skins were all in and it was the Broncos who pulled the plug and went with the Bears' offer. I'm guessing the 3-way deal had Denver sending something back to Cleveland, Broncos decided it wasn't worth whatever extra that was to get Quinn instead of Orton.

[Dah-Dee]

Freedom of speech only applies to some I guess.

There is no freedom of speech in this forum, or any private forum for that matter. Seriously. That's just the way it is. The forum owners make the rules, the moderators enforce the rules using whatever discretion is afforded by the owners. We're only 'free' to post here as long as we abide by those rules as interpreted by the moderators. It's no big deal. :whoknows:

[modazfuk]

I'm not so sure Cutler sees it that way; grew up a Bears fan and wants to "go home."

You could be right and maybe Cutler always looks like that.

[Park City Skins]

The problem is you guys (mods) having a problem. Freedom of speech only applies to some I guess. My post may have only offended that 1 guy, but his ignorance coulda offended a lot more.Because I told him to shut up and called his "remark" stupid. I cant believe I got sent to my room w/out dinner for that :doh: WOOOOOW
Another wrong answer(s),(that means there is no debate flock. See: Rules,guidelines, and keep in mind privately funded site ). Sigh. A perfectly good cat picture gone to waste.

Okay. Back to the trade. As has been noted by others and I agree with them. Redskins had in mind the deal that would work for them and that deal may have included the max they would give up for Cutler. Denver,(and others?) wanted more and the Redskins were out.

[flock53]

Let's try to avoid those kinds of drive bye's. Especially if you're not going to support it. Thanks.
THANK YOU, one drive bye only cause other drive byes (RETALIATION)

[Califan007]

Why do we respect the opinion of the Broncos? Unless I miss my guess, they just pissed off the Elway Heir they've been desperate for going on ten years now, and are now looking at Kyle Orton as their QB.

There's no reason at all that we should feel embarrassed because the Denver Broncos didn't want our quarterback. Hell, they didn't want THEIR quarterback, and he's one of the most promising players in the league. If anything we should be relieved they don't think much of JC. It's a better omen.



I didn't know that Denver was considered all the teams in the NFL. :silly:


Wait, am I reading this wrong?

It says that Denver did not want Campbell, and that's why the deal fell through, but Denver was going to get Quinn and not Campbell?

So then why did the deal fall through?
You guys just saved me a lot of typing lol :applause:...Those were all my thoughts to the "T".




There is only one team out of the 32 NFL teams that like Campbell, unfortanetly; the Redskins are that team.
The Skins are the only team in the NFL that wants Campbell as their QB?...Then why were we trying to get rid of him? lol *confused*

[Califan007]

Poor kid doesn't look very happy

(Pic of Cutler here)
If any pic deserves a "caption this" thread, it's that one lol :rotflmao:

[Park City Skins]

If any pic deserves a "caption this" thread, it's that one lol :rotflmao:
Go for it. And I promise not to post a spider pic in it. :)

[bubba9497]

Poor kid doesn't look very happy

http://i411.photobucket.com/albums/pp195/nparrot/Cutler.jpg?t=1238804885


he looks hung over

[modazfuk]

If any pic deserves a "caption this" thread, it's that one lol :rotflmao:

lololol

Feel free:D

[SkinsFanMania]

I don't think it has anything to do with us playing the horses this year, but thought I would throw it up there for debate. Anyone.....ANYONE!

[CPortJGibbs89]

he looks hung over:laugh: Lol nice one.

[Dah-Dee]

You could be right and maybe Cutler always looks like that.

I'm going with he always looks like that -- dour, bedheaded knucklehead!

[Justin in NoCal]

Forgive me, my sarcasm wasn't necessary. Sorry about that.

[SkinsJackpot]

Not true. It's all rumors. Everyone is lying. There was never any deal and it was never serious, at least that's what I read here.
:doh: :nono: :insane: :doh:

[bubba9497]

http://www.cleveland.com/browns/plaindealer/index.ssf?/base/sports/1238834132290920.xml&coll=2



The Washington Examiner reported Thursday the Browns were willing to deal Quinn to Denver in a three-way trade involving the Redskins, but Mangini said that report was untrue.

[Veretax]

Poor kid doesn't look very happy

http://i411.photobucket.com/albums/pp195/nparrot/Cutler.jpg?t=1238804885


This is a good caption this pick.


Jay cutler, after realizing that Chicago have no top flight Wide Receivers to throw too, have a second year running back, and holes on the Offensive Line.

[tyman21]

I love Jason Campbell right now. He prevented a mistake our idiotic management couldn't.:point2sky

[81tothehall]

Why are we so concerned that the Broncos didn't want Campbell, they didn't want Cutler either. Do you guys really want Brady Quinn? You'll see how high Denver is on Orton when they take Sanchez this year or a 1st Rd. QB next year with that high Chicago draft pick thye get. Everybody says the Bears are a favorite in that division now, did they get somebody to throw to? I like our position, do I think Jason is the best QB in the league, no but I do think he will be solid. Maybe with some turnovers and possibly some made FG's people will change their minds. Also the defenses he will face this year will not be near the quality of the ones that he played against last year.

[Justin in NoCal]

Why are we so concerned that the Broncos didn't want Campbell, they didn't want Cutler either. Do you guys really want Brady Quinn? You'll see how high Denver is on Orton when they take Sanchez this year or a 1st Rd. QB next year with that high Chicago draft pick thye get. Everybody says the Bears are a favorite in that division now, did they get somebody to throw to? I like our position, do I think Jason is the best QB in the league, no but I do think he will be solid. Maybe with some turnovers and possibly some made FG's people will change their minds. Also the defenses he will face this year will not be near the quality of the ones that he played against last year.

The Broncos DID want Cutler. Rather than keep him and have him be disgruntled all season long, they decided to deal him for some value.

[Pedro]

I have a hard time believing we would have offered so much. I know it's a distinct possibilty but with only needing a RT and an OLB as starters for the draft and FA surely we wouldn't have done it?