Did anyone just see Mayock's Mock Draft on the NFLN?

[Xero21]

It was the first 10 picks and it is pretty different than the other Mocks out there. Mayock usually knows his stuff too.

1. DET - Matthew Stafford
2. STL - Jason Smith
3. KC - Eugene Monroe
4. SEA - Aaron Curry
5. CLE - BJ Raji
6. CIN - Andre Smith
7. OAK - Darrius Heyward-Bey
8. JAX - Jeremy Maclin
9. GB - Michael Oher
10. SF - Mark Sanchez

Wow. Orakpo falls past the Top 10 and all the top OTs are gone. This would be interesting for the Skins. Again, I don't usually put a lot of stock in Mock Drafts but Mayock is the best at this.

EDIT: Not to mention Crabtree not being there. I don't know if Vinny would be able to pass him up.

[TheLongshot]

Denver probably will pick him. They desperately need defensive players.

[Fred Jones]

This explains the need to trade down. All the players the skins want are gone when they pick and the remaining ones are not worth the 13th pick.

[Capt Rich Fla]

I thought people only take Oline in the second, third and fourth. yeahh:mad:

[blindlywewander]

This explains the need to trade down. All the players the skins want are gone when they pick and the remaining ones are not worth the 13th pick.

i know we've heard talks about chris wilson playing slb, but i think vinny really likes mauluga. if he gets to this point, i can see us taking him. i'd love to trade down if this were to happen exactly as mayock suggests, but if it does, who would want to trade up and who for? orakpo would be the only guy left that teams truly covet at this point and denver would likely take him. thus, if any trade was made, it'd be to the 11 spot, not 13. i can't see us being able to trade.

HOWEVER, i think if we did have to pick in the first round, i can see us signing a free agent corner (there's a bevy of veteran cbs who would fit in DC) and trade carlos rogers for a second rounder. just a thought, but i think the skins would like to get more than just one starter from this draft.

[asknoquarter]

That scenerio would be great for us as we could get the best WR since Calvin Johnson.

Unless Orako dropped, but I don't see the bills passing on him. The Broncos could take have WAY too many needs now to take crab.

[Capt Rich Fla]

I'm ashamed to say it, but if Crabtree is there..,.jjuiytg no... hgfytft... don't say it!......jujuujyg I'd ta....Noooooooooo.....I'd take him!:silly:

[mistertim]

I can't see Crabtree or Orakpo falling out of the top 10.

[Oldskool]

Mayock is very, very off with his draft.

[mistertim]

I'm ashamed to say it, but if Crabtree is there..,.jjuiytg no... hgfytft... don't say it!......jujuujyg I'd ta....Noooooooooo.....I'd take him!:silly:

If Crabtree was there we would probably have PLENTY of trading partners. As good as he is, I'd rather not pick another WR when we have glaring holes at OL, DE and OLB.

[benskins26]

I'm ashamed to say it, but if Crabtree is there..,.jjuiytg no... hgfytft... don't say it!......jujuujyg I'd ta....Noooooooooo.....I'd take him!:silly:

crabtree isn't even the best reciever in this draft. just the most hyped.

[littleskins]

It was the first 10 picks and it is pretty different than the other Mocks out there. Mayock usually knows his stuff too.

1. DET - Matthew Stafford
2. STL - Jason Smith
3. KC - Eugene Monroe
4. SEA - Aaron Curry
5. CLE - BJ Raji
6. CIN - Andre Smith
7. OAK - Darrius Heyward-Bey
8. JAX - Jeremy Maclin
9. GB - Michael Oher
10. SF - Mark Sanchez

Wow. Orakpo falls past the Top 10 and all the top OTs are gone. This would be interesting for the Skins. Again, I don't usually put a lot of stock in Mock Drafts but Mayock is the best at this.

EDIT: Not to mention Crabtree not being there. I don't know if Vinny would be able to pass him up.

Yea I saw that. Let hope this is the way the daraft unfolds. With Orakpo this defense will dominate the league.

[benskins26]

Yea I saw that. Let hope this is the way the daraft unfolds. With Orakpo this defense will dominate the league.

Yeah, I want Orakpo bad. Real bad. He's gonna be special.

[RunClintonRun26]

If you think Mayock "knows his stuff" and is "the best at it," then you haven't really been around in previous years watching his mocks . . . EVERY year, the guy tries to make the most outlandish picks in order to get some attention. Sure, he spends a great deal of time studying film and he does know more than the average person in terms of player ability, size, experience, stats, etc. But to have DHB in the top 10? That's exactly what I am talking about.

[JVSkins n Hokies]

i think this is the worst mock draft I've seen so far. And Mayock is usually legit.

[flock53]

Crabtree will fall, cause no one has seen anything since the season. Everyone knows hes good but w/ the foot and no show predraft will have GMs falling in love w/ some other player. I dont like him, would rather have Britt or Nicks, Maclin, but we dont need that position. Both top RBs probably there when we pick also. Hopefully some team wants to come up cause I HATE this spot. Unless Orakpo or J.Smith falls, I dont like A.Smith, trade WAY back and get another pick. Even though last years same technique didnt pan out first year.

[flock53]

I dont know whos worse, Mayock, Kiper or Skip Bayless, all Mr. know-it-alls. I think they came from the same sperm donor.

[benskins26]

Crabtree will fall, cause no one has seen anything since the season. Everyone knows hes good but w/ the foot and no show predraft will have GMs falling in love w/ some other player. I dont like him, would rather have Britt or Nicks, Maclin, but we dont need that position. Both top RBs probably there when we pick also. Hopefully some team wants to come up cause I HATE this spot. Unless Orakpo or J.Smith falls, I dont like A.Smith, trade WAY back and get another pick. Even though last years same technique didnt pan out first year.

Ditto Everything you said. I HATE this spot. Unless we can land Orakpo, whcich I doubt. And Nicks > Crabtree.

[littleskins]

If you think Mayock "knows his stuff" and is "the best at it," then you haven't really been around in previous years watching his mocks . . . EVERY year, the guy tries to make the most outlandish picks in order to get some attention. Sure, he spends a great deal of time studying film and he does know more than the average person in terms of player ability, size, experience, stats, etc. But to have DHB in the top 10? That's exactly what I am talking about.


That's true but it is Oakland. that would be the kind of pick they would do. DHB is going to make someone very happy.

[[[ghost]]]

The only Mocks crazier than this are DraftTek's.

[benskins26]

I dont know whos worse, Mayock, Kiper or Skip Bayless, all Mr. know-it-alls. I think they came from the same sperm donor.

Skip Bayless isn't even in the same breath as the other 2. He's AWFUL. He just talks to incite people's anger to get ratings. Most of the time, I don't think he has any idea what he's talking about. The other day I saw Cold Pizza, and he made Bow Wow sound smart.

[Laxpunk2006]

If you think Mayock "knows his stuff" and is "the best at it," then you haven't really been around in previous years watching his mocks . . . EVERY year, the guy tries to make the most outlandish picks in order to get some attention. Sure, he spends a great deal of time studying film and he does know more than the average person in terms of player ability, size, experience, stats, etc. But to have DHB in the top 10? That's exactly what I am talking about.

Who had Troy Williamson in the top 10? Chris Johnson anywhere in the first last year. Remember he was widely thought to be a third round guy. Alan Branch out of the first all together? Aaron Rodgers and Brady Quinn sliding down 20+ spots?

The point I'm making is NO ONE knows what's going to happen. St. Louis doesn't know who they're going to pick because for all they know Detroit wants their guy. Unless you have a time machine it's impossible to accurately project the draft.

As far as DHB in the top 10, I don't see it happening but Davis loves speed and Russel needs someone to throw it to. Johnny Lee Higgins just doesn't scare me like DHB would.

[Xero21]

If you think Mayock "knows his stuff" and is "the best at it," then you haven't really been around in previous years watching his mocks . . . EVERY year, the guy tries to make the most outlandish picks in order to get some attention. Sure, he spends a great deal of time studying film and he does know more than the average person in terms of player ability, size, experience, stats, etc. But to have DHB in the top 10? That's exactly what I am talking about.

I really have been around and Mayock picks up on things other's dont.

When everyone was talking about Leinart and Vince Young, Mayock thought Cutler was the best QB of the 3. Look how that turned out.

He also was high on Chris Johnson last year. Again, how did that turn out?

Who do you think is better than Mayock?

[ExoDus84]

If Crabtree was there we would probably have PLENTY of trading partners. As good as he is, I'd rather not pick another WR when we have glaring holes at OL, DE and OLB.

according to most members of this board, we still have a glaring hole at WR.

[SkinsNorth]

That Mock isnt too crazy really. Maybe substitute Orakpo for Oher and Crabtree for DHB and it actually looks pretty good.

Its not totally out of the realm that Orakpo and Crabtree could slide out of the top 10. Crabtree has injury concerns, is smaller than he was listed in college and has not participated in the combine or a pro day. Orakpo is best in the 4-3 and the majority of teams in the top 10 that need defensive help run the 3-4 or a variation of it.

[littleskins]

If Orakpo and A. Smith is gone off the board I think we'll trade down, If posible.
We need OLB, but do we take a chance on Cushing, if the rumors are true. and I dont think Maualuga can play OLB but a beast nonthelest.

[SIXX99]

Orakpo, Crabtree it doesn't matter if the QB is flat on his back sacked......

[littleskins]

Orakpo, Crabtree it doesn't matter if the QB is flat on his back sacked......

I agree in regards of Crabtree, but with Orakpo the defense would be so dominant you wont need much offense. Dont sleep on Stephen Heyer. He needed to get his run blocking together. His pass blocking was decent. Remember when he was on the line JC florished.

[IbleedBnG83]

I doubt 49ers go QB

[littleskins]

I doubt 49ers go QB

If Sanchez is there It would be hard for them to pass.

[mistertim]

according to most members of this board, we still have a glaring hole at WR.

No, we have two young WRs with talent who didn't do much their rookie years. We need to see how they do the next couple of years before even thinking about drafting a WR again.

[gortiz]

It was the first 10 picks and it is pretty different than the other Mocks out there. Mayock usually knows his stuff too.

1. DET - Matthew Stafford
2. STL - Jason Smith
3. KC - Eugene Monroe
4. SEA - Aaron Curry
5. CLE - BJ Raji
6. CIN - Andre Smith
7. OAK - Darrius Heyward-Bey
8. JAX - Jeremy Maclin
9. GB - Michael Oher
10. SF - Mark Sanchez

Wow. Orakpo falls past the Top 10 and all the top OTs are gone. This would be interesting for the Skins. Again, I don't usually put a lot of stock in Mock Drafts but Mayock is the best at this.

EDIT: Not to mention Crabtree not being there. I don't know if Vinny would be able to pass him up.


wait...how did Orakpo go from potential top 5 to out of the top 10???

[dreamboater]

doesnt make sense...especially with the drug test failure by Raji

[littleskins]

wait...how did Orakpo go from potential top 5 to out of the top 10???

Most mocks had him going to Clevland, but they have more stressing now. (Reciever)
The rest of the teams other than Denver has holes in other places. Eventhough he might not get past Green Bay.

[flock53]

Most mocks had him going to Clevland, but they have more stressing now. (Reciever)
The rest of the teams other than Denver has holes in other places. Eventhough he might not get past Green Bay.
Cleveland is in BAD shape BIG holes on BOTH sides. I think Mangini is taking in state player Jenkins, he took Revis high and bombed on Gholston, so I think hes gunshy w/ taking a college DE and trying to convert to LB.

[Big Mac Patty Wack]

EDIT: Not to mention Crabtree not being there. I don't know if Vinny would be able to pass him up.

No. Crabtree will be the top rated guy left at this point on Vinny's board, so he'll take him.

[Laron Burgundy]

I don't know how heyward-bey gets drafted over Crabtree. Or San Fran passing on Crabtree if he falls there. Shaun Hill actually played well for them whereas their receivers are definitely among the worst wr units in the league.

[SkinsFanMania]

I dont know whos worse, Mayock, Kiper or Skip Bayless, all Mr. know-it-alls. I think they came from the same sperm donor.

I think I heard that on PFT, but you know how often PFT is correct.:silly:

[turbodiesel#44]

This explains the need to trade down. All the players the skins want are gone when they pick and the remaining ones are not worth the 13th pick.I agree, but we have to see how it pans out. IF one of the top OTs is on the boards, we should take him instead.

IMO, #13 is a prime pick, even better than some of the higher picks. You can catch a top player without the resulting huge cap hit, with a little luck. And smart scouting. I hope that last thing doesn't shoot us in the ass again, but that pick should be a much better gamble than trying to find solid starters in the 3rd or later. (That would be 2nd or later for Vinny.)

[Walking Deadman]

Walking Deadman's
Meaningless Mock draft 2.0 (will be on the blog tomorrow with commentary)

1. Lions- Matt Stafford
2. StL- Jason Smith
3. Denver Broncos (trade via KC)- Mark Sanchez
4. Seattle Seahawks- Michael Crabtree
5. Cleveland Browns- Aaron Curry
6. Cincy Bengals- Eugene Monroe
7. Oakland Raiders- Brian Orakpo
8. Jacksonville Jags- Jeremy Maclin
9. GB Packers- BJ Raji
10. SF 49ers- Andre Smith
11. Buffalo Bills- Everette Brown
12. KC Chiefs- Tyson Jackson
13. Washington Redskins- Michael Oher

[Neophyte]

Mayock is very, very off with his draft.

Looks very plausible to me with the exception of GB going OT at #9. They are switching to a 3-4 this year so I really expect them go with one of guys who played DE in college but projects to LB in a pro 3-4 set. Other than that, I can see a solid case for everyone of Mayock's picks here.

[sugarbear326]

Raji, failed a drug test at the combines and he still has him going #5, wow..

[illone]

Anything could happen on draft day.

[mistahsmif]

Cleveland is in BAD shape BIG holes on BOTH sides. I think Mangini is taking in state player Jenkins, he took Revis high and bombed on Gholston, so I think hes gunshy w/ taking a college DE and trying to convert to LB.

I don't think Cleveland would be able to pass up a WR especially Crabtree. Remember they traded Winslow, Stallworth can be ruled out, and Braylon has hands like frying pans.

[36HAMMER]

as i have said before the only player i see the skin keeping their pick for is raji from boston. picking him would give us a sick dline. otherwise there is too much to be gained by trading down and getting the oline help we need. at least the center alex mack, then another good guard or tackle. this de from texas is good no doubt but his size makes him all wrong for a 4-3 line-up.he's a tweener . a 3-4 kind of guy. best thing for the skins would be either raji falling to them or trading a future pick for a good de. i know i know i said trading away picks but i don't see them getting the help they any other way.and they took back mr wynn so i don't think the are particularly hot on any of the de's comning out this year. maybe that guy from gtech, he's got the size and physical gifts that the 4-3 demands. but i have also heard there are other questions about him.

[GibbsFactor]

Here's the video.

http://www.nfl.com/videos?videoId=09000d5d80f99143

[sb_xxvi]

If you think Mayock "knows his stuff" and is "the best at it," then you haven't really been around in previous years watching his mocks . . . EVERY year, the guy tries to make the most outlandish picks in order to get some attention. Sure, he spends a great deal of time studying film and he does know more than the average person in terms of player ability, size, experience, stats, etc. But to have DHB in the top 10? That's exactly what I am talking about.

DHB is 6'4'' and runs a 4.30. Al Davis is a crazy guy, I would'nt put it past him.

[SAli457180]

Denver probably will pick him. They desperately need defensive players.

That was before the Culter trade. The Broncos need a young QB for McDaniels to mold into their new franchise QB.

[RunClintonRun26]

Who had Troy Williamson in the top 10? Chris Johnson anywhere in the first last year. Remember he was widely thought to be a third round guy. Alan Branch out of the first all together? Aaron Rodgers and Brady Quinn sliding down 20+ spots?

The point I'm making is NO ONE knows what's going to happen. St. Louis doesn't know who they're going to pick because for all they know Detroit wants their guy. Unless you have a time machine it's impossible to accurately project the draft.

As far as DHB in the top 10, I don't see it happening but Davis loves speed and Russel needs someone to throw it to. Johnny Lee Higgins just doesn't scare me like DHB would.

I would argue that C. Johnson's combine numbers (fastest 40 time last year) put him in the conversation of the 1st-2nd round for many competent mock drafts . . . And as far as Rodgers and Quinn slipping - virtually every mock draft had Rodgers slipping (perhaps not as far as it happened) if he was not taken top 10. Same goes for Quinn.

I fully agree with you though that NOBODY knows what is going to happen . . . which is what makes the draft that much more appealing. Aside from the fact that for us want to be GMs, coaches, etc. it is the perfect fantasy land, the unpredictability is what draws in the casual fans.

Al David would certainly consider a WR with that pick . . . and yes, he does covet speed . . . But in considering everything else, he would take Maclin ahead of DHB. Maclin can run a similar speed (I think he can run between 4.35 - 4.4), but is more polished. Hell, even with as many physical question marks that Crabtree has, Al would definitely give him a good look at that spot as well . . . Fact is, nobody in their right mind would put DHB ahead of Crabtree and Maclin (and I am a fan who has known DHB since middle school), just because of the fact that Crabtree and Maclin have more experience, are better route runners, and have a better body of work than DHB.



I really have been around and Mayock picks up on things other's dont.

When everyone was talking about Leinart and Vince Young, Mayock thought Cutler was the best QB of the 3. Look how that turned out.

He also was high on Chris Johnson last year. Again, how did that turn out?

Who do you think is better than Mayock?

By the time April came around of the draft you are refering to, most scouts were fond of Cutler as well . . . so it was not just Mayock.

I'll give credit when credit is due - Mayock studies harder than most. ANd like I said in my other post, he does a great job of knowing stats and stuff. But I would still put my money on Kiper Jr. as the guy who is still the cream of the crop that has become self-professed draft gurus.



DHB is 6'4'' and runs a 4.30. Al Davis is a crazy guy, I would'nt put it past him.

I wouldn't put anything past Al Davis either . . . but if he is leaning toward WR, and Crabtree is there (who when healthy is the best WR of this group and the most NFL ready), he'll take him rather than a fast project with potential.

[Capt Rich Fla]

crabtree isn't even the best reciever in this draft. just the most hyped.

I'll give you the hyped part, but so was L Fitz. Look how that turned out. I know that just one case, but everyone thinks he's the next Boldin. Everbody can't be that wrong.

[asknoquarter]

He will be better than Boldin

Crabtree is a true WR, he isn't a gifted freak that is learning to play WR. He is a football player and that is what this team needs to develop our other 2 WRs....throw crabtree in the mix and we are SET at WR for 10 years.

I know we have other needs, but I think we can be successful with Heyer at RT, he is still getting better and he needs the snaps.

If we have no great trade partner(that isn't giants or eagles) then the pick HAS to be crabtree. It would be foolish to pass on him

[That Redskins Fan]

Mayock is very, very off with his draft.

yes he is

he had peterson going to the cards and they ended up taking a o-tackle (levi Brown)he misses more than he hits

[Veretax]

It was the first 10 picks and it is pretty different than the other Mocks out there. Mayock usually knows his stuff too.

1. DET - Matthew Stafford
2. STL - Jason Smith
3. KC - Eugene Monroe
4. SEA - Aaron Curry
5. CLE - BJ Raji
6. CIN - Andre Smith
7. OAK - Darrius Heyward-Bey
8. JAX - Jeremy Maclin
9. GB - Michael Oher
10. SF - Mark Sanchez

Wow. Orakpo falls past the Top 10 and all the top OTs are gone. This would be interesting for the Skins. Again, I don't usually put a lot of stock in Mock Drafts but Mayock is the best at this.

EDIT: Not to mention Crabtree not being there. I don't know if Vinny would be able to pass him up.


Only way Cleveland drafts Raji is if they trade away ShauN Rogers and that will be a poison pill for them. Cleveland is perhaps MORE desparate at WR. They have Edwards, Stalworth likely to be suspended, and they traded Winslow away. They need a WR, and a sure fire one at that.

CIncy could draft an OT, but I doubt they take smith. Lewis has one year left, and he has enough slackers in the lockerroom for any team right now. (Not saying its true that smith is a slacker, but he can't afford to add a player that is perceived as such at this point in time.)

Green Bay needs a DE/LB perhaps more than an OT right now, but it depends on how they feel about Tauscher I think. They have the option, and there is no way in hell San Fran takes Sanchez, they have too much money tied up in the renegoatiated contracts of Alex Smith, and Singletary likely will want to fill other wholes before worrying about QB. Shaun Hill did okay at the end of last season, I'm told.

[CB4MVP]

The Heyward-Bey pick is the only real reach there.

And thats because of Al Davis.

I see the draft going in much the same way.

O-Line is priority number one these days.

Crabtree, Orakpo and the rest are have question marks.

The O-Tackles are plug and play.