New raiders saftey, remind you of someone? (video)

[portis&taylor]

Remind you of someone we lost who wore 21?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i8KF2-_OXoA

[RFKFedEx]

So pretty much any safety who makes a great play is supposed to remind us of ST right?

[Xero21]

No. No he doesn't. Any mods who see this please close this thread.

[skins84]

Actually he does remind of ST, watch how he just levels the ball carrier without even going down half the time

[Brandon Lloyd Christmas]

why are some of you guys getting so pissy about this guy reminding him of ST? the guy is a big saftey whos making some jarring hits, and seems like a ballhawk in coverage. pretty much exactly what ST was.

jeez.

[Xero21]

why are some of you guys getting so pissy about this guy reminding him of ST? the guy is a big saftey whos making some jarring hits, and seems like a ballhawk in coverage. pretty much exactly what ST was.

jeez.

It gets annoying when every single a time a safety makes a play, it has to remind everyone of Sean Taylor with a brand new thread.

I understand that people will think of Taylor, I do too, but why start a thread on it?

[STBonecrusher21]

Dude's definately got talent.

See how those WRs just bounce off of him when he makes them big hits.

What round did he go in?

[Brandon Lloyd Christmas]

It gets annoying when every single a time a safety makes a play, it has to remind everyone of Sean Taylor with a brand new thread.

I understand that people will think of Taylor, I do too, but why start a thread on it?


because everyone and their grandma mocked the raiders for taking this nobody in the 2nd round, only to find out later that at least 2 other teams were gonna grab him in this round as well, making the raiders look less stupid than they already do (which is pretty friggin stupid).

and it shouldnt get annoying to see guys follow in the footsteps of taylor. i enjoy watching exceptional players excel at their position (college or pro) and this guy obviously did well enough in college to be selected on day one.

why not start a thread on it? i enjoyed the guys video.

[Travdaskin]

Dude's definately got talent.

See how those WRs just bounce off of him when he makes them big hits.

What round did he go in?

2nd round...

[Bzapf]

It gets annoying when every single a time a safety makes a play, it has to remind everyone of Sean Taylor with a brand new thread.

I understand that people will think of Taylor, I do too, but why start a thread on it?
Why post in it? Lol you think because you don't agree with something the thread should be closed.

[G.A.C.O.L.B.]

Mods Xero21 has spoken. Close the ****ing thread.


But seriously, on draft day I saw Raiders fans saying that he reminded them of ST. So no, it's not a stretch to say that and it's not based on ONE play.

[ArmchairRedskin]

Dude's highlight reel from college is more impressive than Laron's is, I'll give him that.






PS, I wish the song they used could have been a tad more annoying.

[STBonecrusher21]

Dude's highlight reel from college is more impressive than Laron's is, I'll give him that.






PS, I wish the song they used could have been a tad more annoying.

LaRon was going up against better competition though. I didn't recognize half the school's they were playing against in that video.

[kevincollateral]

people need to quit bitching. dudes got talent..and can hit like a truck.

great vid.

[terpskins10]

Let's take ST for what he was, guys. A great, young player for us that was just scratching the surface of his potential. He wasn't the best safety in the NFL, ever, etc. He was outstanding for us, and a fan favorite, but don't get mad if someone else's play is reminiscent of Taylor's.

I, too, like the way Mitchell flings his body around with such reckless abandon and levels receivers coming from all the way across the field. THAT's what reminds us of ST. That's what we remember ST by.

It should be a compliment to someone if their play reminds a Redskin fan of Sean Taylor's. You guys are treating it like it's a curse against the almighty Taylor to be compared to any human safety.

I bet if Sean watched this guy play, he'd see a lot of himself in him too, regardless of level of competition.

[skinsfan_1215]

Let's take ST for what he was, guys. A great, young player for us that was just scratching the surface of his potential. He wasn't the best safety in the NFL, ever, etc. He was outstanding for us, and a fan favorite, but don't get mad if someone else's play is reminiscent of Taylor's.

I, too, like the way Mitchell flings his body around with such reckless abandon and levels receivers coming from all the way across the field. THAT's what reminds us of ST. That's what we remember ST by.

It should be a compliment to someone if their play reminds a Redskin fan of Sean Taylor's. You guys are treating it like it's a curse against the almighty Taylor to be compared to any human safety.

I bet if Sean watched this guy play, he'd see a lot of himself in him too, regardless of level of competition.

qft

Nice post man.

[KDawg]

He reminds me more of Rey Maualuga than Sean Taylor, honestly. Those big hits probably won't happen quite as often in the NFL, but the guy can smack some guys around.

[Sanders 83]

I know that what I thought when I watched the video draft day... Although slightly shorter...Personally I think Mel is the idiot... "I had him ranked 73rd on my board" Who cares Mel... Shave your and quit making everyone listen to your non sense...

[NoleSkin21]

Dude is a big hitter for sure. Wow. Im impressed

[TheRedfishCo]

LaRon was going up against better competition though. I didn't recognize half the school's they were playing against in that video.

How can you talk about competition etc if you don't know that there are teams outside of the BCS conferences. what a joke.

[da#1skinsfan]

Yes, yes he does. Some of you guys are unreal, absolute e-bullies.

His highlight reel is super impressive and he does have that "man among boys" look to his game that Taylor brought. I can see why the Raiders were excited to grab him early...

[skins84]

For those talking about competition....a few of those highlights were against Ohio State.

[terpskins10]

How can you talk about competition etc if you don't know that there are teams outside of the BCS conferences. what a joke.

I don't understand the point you're making here. Landry obviously played against better competition at LSU than Mitchell at Ohio.

Just because he doesn't recognize the teams that Ohio plays doesn't mean he can't say LSU, playing in the toughest conference in college football, plays better competition than Ohio does.

I live in Maryland and follow Towson U. Could you name all the teams that they play off the top of your head? Not many can. Doesn't make them a "joke". Crusher is actually one of the more respected posters on here.

[gatorskin77]

Yeah I watched this video after they drafted him and mel kiper trashed the kid kinda reminds of when mel said Nnamdi Asomugha or what ever his name is would never make it in the nfl kiper is an idiot this kid is a monster and as far as him not playing tough competition go back and watch the ohio vs ohio st game he owned them

[STBonecrusher21]

How can you talk about competition etc if you don't know that there are teams outside of the BCS conferences. what a joke.

Ummm.

What?

[terpskins10]

Ummm.

What?

I got you. lol

[STBonecrusher21]

I got you. lol

Haha.

Yea, I think you knew where I was getting at.

I'm not trying to bash the kid. He went 2nd round in the NFL draft, dude's go skill. But there was a comparison to LaRon, and I stated that LaRon played in the toughest conference in all of college football for all 4 years. Ohio, where this kid played, did not.

Didn't think it was that hard to understand.

[dsciambi]

I read this thread and was like...oh great, another ST thread.

I've gotta admit though, he really does remind me of the way ST tackled. I'm quite impressed. I think it was still a stretch taking him in the 2nd round, but 73rd ranked safety, I dunno about. Then again, he played in a weak conference.

[portis&taylor]

k all you guys freaking cuz i started this thread should seriously GTFO check my posts this is the first thread i have started about someone reminding me of Sean and thats because this is the only kid that does. I swear some of you guys never get off the rag :mad:

[skinsfan_1215]

k all you guys freaking cuz i started this thread should seriously GTFO check my posts this is the first thread i have started about someone reminding me of Sean and thats because this is the only kid that does. I swear some of you guys never get off the rag :mad:

It's aight man we got your back.:)

[portis&taylor]

about mitchell tho, some of his hits are just eriely (sp?) similar to ST its crazy

[portis&taylor]

It's aight man we got your back.:)

ha thanks, good to have someone whose not out to thrash threads

[InsaneBoost]

You guys get so damn touchy over Sean Taylor is ****ing sickening.

The guy reminds me a lot of him I won't lie, how he stands and basically stalks the player and unleashes a hit.

[G.A.C.O.L.B.]

I only see one person really going crazy about the ST comparison and he disappeared fairly fast.

And to add another thing, this guy has that beastly ferocity that I said I think Taylor Mays lacks (when Mays was compared to ST in another thread.)

[NawtyMagazine]

if he was anywhere close to taylor i dont think he would go to ohio university. he would atleast go to ohio state lol

[ConnSKINS26]

if he was anywhere close to taylor i dont think he would go to ohio university. he would atleast go to ohio state lol

The OP said remind you of ST, as in his playing style, not is he as good, or does he do it as well, or "was Sean Taylor cloned and sent to Ohio University and then drafted by the Raiders".

I for one see a definite resemblance, a sort of recklessness that should bring some of the gritty toughness back to the Raiders, if he can focus it like ST was learning to do here.

[Brandon Lloyd Christmas]

Let's take ST for what he was, guys. A great, young player for us that was just scratching the surface of his potential. He wasn't the best safety in the NFL, ever, etc. He was outstanding for us, and a fan favorite, but don't get mad if someone else's play is reminiscent of Taylor's.



i disagree with this. i honestly believe in 2007, the season he was murdered, he was the best FS in the league. he was leading in INTs at the time, everybody knew he was a fumble threat everytime he hit somebody, and since we had a legit SS in landry in the box, ST was truly showing he was incredible. he never got the chance to have a career like reed, but for that one year, he was the best. and we will never know if he could have maintained that status.

[NawtyMagazine]

The OP said remind you of ST, as in his playing style, not is he as good, or does he do it as well, or "was Sean Taylor cloned and sent to Ohio University and then drafted by the Raiders". Neither did I

[kevinklein]

Actually, yeah. He reminds me a lot of Taylor, and I'm someone who's never thought that about anyone before. Freaky.

[ConnSKINS26]

Neither did I

Maybe I misunderstood your meaning, but you said that if he was anywhere near as good as ST, he at least would have gone to a better football program. Which I took to be going against the OP's statement that he reminded him of ST. He never said he was as good, which is what you seemed to be mocking...its all good:)

[Lombardi's_kid_brother]

I'm glad that Sean Taylor invented hitting by a safety.

They looked so silly just running away from people before he joined the league.

[jpillian]

I'll admit, there is something about the way this guy hits/moves that reminds me of ST. Instinctive.

[STBonecrusher21]

ST talk aside, this guy's gonna make me tune into some Raiders games this year.

[Arsenic]

wotd: overreact

[terpskins10]

k all you guys freaking cuz i started this thread should seriously GTFO check my posts this is the first thread i have started about someone reminding me of Sean and thats because this is the only kid that does. I swear some of you guys never get off the rag :mad:

Taken care of! Don't worry.

It's just something you have to deal with on this site. Don't let it affect your expression of your thoughts.

[GoodOnPaper]

i disagree with this. i honestly believe in 2007, the season he was murdered, he was the best FS in the league. he was leading in INTs at the time, everybody knew he was a fumble threat everytime he hit somebody, and since we had a legit SS in landry in the box, ST was truly showing he was incredible. he never got the chance to have a career like reed, but for that one year, he was the best. and we will never know if he could have maintained that status.

Very nicely put and I couldn't agree more. It's this fact that makes his death even more tragic in my eyes. He was really starting to become a superstar, as much as I hate that word. He was showing signs of it all year. I think when he died he was still leading the league in INTs as well. Such a great talent cut down short.

Back on topic. This kid does play like ST, no doubt about it. It's like he's the personification of the hit-stick that Madden employs. It's awfully entertaining and I hope the kid does well. Who knows, maybe the Raiders were on to something?

[The-Rock]

My god look at all those Ball State, Western Michigan, Central Michigan, Northern Illinois, Toledo, Eastern Michigan, Buffalo, Bowling Green, Temple, Akron, Kent State, and Miami (Ohio) players he's laying out!

Wowwieee!!! Gooooooo MAC!

[ciresolstice]

Lighten up, it's just like every time some new guy is up and coming in the NBA they want to say he's the next Jordan.

"I bet if Sean watched this guy play, he'd see a lot of himself in him too, regardless of level of competition." - terpskin

^^ no doubt man.

people used to say the next Ronnie Lott, etc etc. it's a compliment, the dudes measureables are similar, plays in a similar fashion, I can see what he's talking about.

Of course in the end Sean Michael Taylor was one of a kind. MEAST!

As far as this Raider rook goes though, he should be fun to watch and an asset to the NFL.

[Vicious]

I don't doubt there will be a player like Sean Taylor sometime. If there is, we'll be able to recognize them. They'll be big and unreasonably quick for their size. They'll hit like a monster and will play with heart. They'll be at the top of some teams draft boards, even if he's coming out young.

We'll know it when we see it. Then we'll be like, hey, get that guy.

[skinsfan_1215]

I don't doubt there will be a player like Sean Taylor sometime. If there is, we'll be able to recognize them. They'll be big and unreasonably quick for their size. They'll hit like a monster and will play with heart. They'll be at the top of some teams draft boards, even if he's coming out young.

We'll know it when we see it. Then we'll be like, hey, get that guy.

I really hope we do eventually get someone else like that on our team. He was such a special talent it was amazing.

If I ever have kids I want them to watch a Redskin game with me, and have me point out a player to them that is making a huge impact on the game. Then I can tell them about how once upon a time the Redskins had someone else who was like that. He would seem to be everywhere on the field at once, and if given the chance he would punish an opponent for challenging him. And I will tell them how his life was so tragically taken away just as he was beginning to enter his prime, and I hope I can tell them well enough so that they can understand just what he meant to so many people in so many ways. Not only to us football fans, but to his family as well. Truly tragic.:(

[G.A.C.O.L.B.]

ST talk aside, this guy's gonna make me tune into some Raiders games this year.

Thats what I've been thinking. I saw this vid on a Raiders Nation site on Saturday, was very impressed and after all the hate and guffaws his 2nd round selection got (on ESPN and NFLN) I'm rooting for this guy and definitely following his career. Plus I'd like Al Davis to make everyone look dumb as one last **** you. I think it would be funny.

[JustAfan47]

wow this guy can lay some wood down!!......Good pick by the Raiders

[stickyshooZ]

So pretty much any safety who makes a great play is supposed to remind us of ST right?
Agreed.

Good video, none the less.

[terpskins10]

Thats what I've been thinking. I saw this vid on a Raiders Nation site on Saturday, was very impressed and after all the hate and guffaws his 2nd round selection got (on ESPN and NFLN) I'm rooting for this guy and definitely following his career. Plus I'd like Al Davis to make everyone look dumb as one last **** you. I think it would be funny.

I just can't stand Mel Kiper. If he was as good at what he does as he thinks he is, he would be in an NFL front office, not on ESPN.

[J-bomb]

After watching he is real, this was a good pick for the Raiders and he will have Kiper eating his words in 3 yrs!

[stoney26]

Whoa....where did this guy come from?? That highlight reel is SICK!! I thought this guys was supposed to be a bum.

[J-bomb]

I don't understand the point you're making here. Landry obviously played against better competition at LSU than Mitchell at Ohio.

Just because he doesn't recognize the teams that Ohio plays doesn't mean he can't say LSU, playing in the toughest conference in college football, plays better competition than Ohio does.

I live in Maryland and follow Towson U. Could you name all the teams that they play off the top of your head? Not many can. Doesn't make them a "joke". Crusher is actually one of the more respected posters on here.

So are you trying to say that only guys from tougher conferences make better pros? There are alot of Pro Bowlers I can think of that didn't come from so called tough conferences! Moss, OSi, Westbrook,
LT for starters............. A baller is a baller no matter what school you come from!

[SkinSince87]

A couple thingd I've noticed. first level of competition makes a huge difference take for example Willie Williams in Juco he had like 9 sacks in 4 games with 50 tackles, but couldn't even crack the UM starting line up even though he was a freshmen in his defense. Second good hits are good hits and this guy runs through people and has great instincts. Lastly he either is super strong, has hella balance or was just that dominate over his competition, I wouldn't mind seeing him as a Redskins that's for sure. Anyone know his 40 time?

[SkinSince87]

never-mind i found out he ran a 4.4 at his pro day

[Bang]

I was more reminded of Bob Sanders. Those were some nice plays, no doubt, but he looks more compact like Sanders instead of tall and rangy like Sean was. He's certainly got some pop.

~Bang

[G.A.C.O.L.B.]

never-mind i found out he ran a 4.4 at his pro day

Yeah 4.4, 6'1" 223 lbs. Did like 20 reps and has like a 38" vertical I believe.

[G.A.C.O.L.B.]

After watching he is real, this was a good pick for the Raiders and he will have Kiper eating his words in 3 yrs!

Mayock hated on him too. But Mayock, and the NFLN, came back the next day and essentially apologized after finding out other teams might have taken him in the 2nd (the Bears for one.) Don't recall Kiper doing that at all.

So are you trying to say that only guys from tougher conferences make better pros? There are alot of Pro Bowlers I can think of that didn't come from so called tough conferences! Moss, OSi, Westbrook,
LT for starters............. A baller is a baller no matter what school you come from!

The SB winning QB. From the exact same conference as this guy. There have been a ton.

[Tyron Biggums]

Hmmm did he have 10 picks his sophomore season in college?

[slinky]

that kid better learn how to tackle instead of delivering a "big hit"...

[hokie4redskins]

Is Ohio MAC or CUSA? Talented, but he's going against kids.

The people complaining about another Taylor thread though need to :stfu:

[ouvan59]

Is Ohio MAC or CUSA? Talented, but he's going against kids.

The people complaining about another Taylor thread though need to :stfu:

Ohio is in the MAC and yes it is of lesser talent than the BCS conferences but he also played against quite a few BCS teams and did very well. He had a big game against Ohio State and they were leading in the 4th quarter until the lack of depth along the defensive line did them in. He also played well against Northwestern who had their second lowest point output against Ohio.

And if you are wondering why I know so much about him, the OU in my screen name stands for Ohio University.

[drowland]

Watching that video, it makes you wonder why he wasn't invited to the combine.

[G.A.C.O.L.B.]

Gotta hype my new fav non-Redskin player.

http://www.insidebayarea.com/raiders/ci_12321826

Mitchell ready to knock out Raiders

By Jerry McDonald
Staff writer
05/07/2009

ALAMEDA — Safety Mike Mitchell sounded disappointed.

The man who coached him for four years in college was concerned.

"I'm going to have to give him a call," Ohio University defensive coordinator Jimmy Burrow said.

Mitchell will be all dressed up with no one to hit today when the Raiders open a three-day minicamp at their practice facility.

The Raiders will get their first on-field look at their second-round draft pick, but minicamps are strictly noncontact, a detail Mitchell seemed surprised to learn during a recent phone interview.

"Really?" Mitchell said. "I was looking forward to getting out there and mixing it up."

The reaction made Burrow chuckle, as well as a promise to phone Mitchell to make sure he didn't get carried away as he began to fulfill a lifelong dream.

Mitchell became a Raider sooner than most expected because of his size (6-feet, 220 pounds) and 4.43-second time in the 40-yard dash — none of which would have counted for much if not for his lust for contact.

"We had a three-time All-(Mid-America Conference) wideout who was 6-5, 210 pounds, and (Mitchell) knocked the absolute (bleep) out of him," Central Michigan wide receivers coach Zach Azzanni said. "I thought he killed him."

Mitchell remembers the hit but said it wasn't one of the three "knockouts" he referred to on his first conference call with Bay Area reporters.

"When I say 'knockout,' I mean they literally had to break the salt out on him," Mitchell said.

When the Raiders took Mitchell No. 47 overall April 25, there were draft analysts in need of some smelling salts. ESPN's Mel Kiper Jr., who had Mitchell going in the seventh round or as a free agent, seemed to take it as a personal affront.

The NFL Network's Mike Mayock, who correctly forecast the Raiders' first pick of wide receiver Darrius Heyward-Bey, never saw it coming, either. Mayock apologized when told Mitchell was on the radar screen of the Chicago Bears and admitted he'd never seen film of Mitchell in action.

All of which seemed to bother Mitchell, well, not at all.

"What did they say?" Mitchell said. "I really don't know. Once I got drafted, I went back to work."

Kent State offensive coordinator A.J. Pratt said, "I'm not an NFL scout, and I haven't been around Mitchell enough to know how he'll do on Sundays, but I do know he was a very good player and their best defensive back."

Said Central Michigan's Azzanni: "From a wide receiver's perspective, he'd come off the hash and hit you. He's a big, thick kid, he hit the weights hard, and he plays with a certain mentality. I'm surprised he was drafted in the second round, but I'm not surprised he was drafted."

Mitchell told Bay Area reporters after he was drafted that he patterned his game after heavy hitters such as Jack Tatum and Ronnie Lott. Burrow calls him a throwback and said getting Mitchell to understand that interceptions and pass defense are as important as getting a big hit took some time.

"Each year he got better at tracking the ball and going and getting it, and I think where he made his biggest strides this season was working on getting low and making the tackle instead of going in pad high all the time and looking for the big hit," Burrow said.

Mitchell worked tirelessly at improving his speed, and although he pulled a hamstring at his Ohio University Pro Day, he rehabbed in 25 days and had another session at his high school in Kentucky.

"He really put on a show," said Dale Mueller, his high school coach who is convinced the Raiders got wind of someone taking Mitchell before they would get another chance.

Neither Mitchell nor Mueller remembers the Raiders being at the workout, although they were sent a DVD. Mueller recalls filling out a detailed questionnaire from the Raiders.

"All he's ever wanted to do is play in the NFL. It's interesting because he's a really nice guy, religious, the kind of guy you'd want baby-sitting your children or helping your grandmother across the street," Mueller said. "But he is just a vicious football player."

[mnb123]

Was this the 2nd rounder who they took because he had a fast 40 even though he was supposed to be a 7th or UDFA?

[G.A.C.O.L.B.]

Was this the 2nd rounder who they took because he had a fast 40 even though he was supposed to be a 7th or UDFA?

This was the 2nd rounder they took because other teams (the Bears) were looking to take him in the 2nd/3rd round.

As it says in the article:

Mayock apologized when told Mitchell was on the radar screen of the Chicago Bears and admitted he'd never seen film of Mitchell in action.

Funny how you can give a guy a 7th round grade when you've never even seen him play. And that's why I'm rooting for him.

[Koolblue13]

He does remind of Taylor, dude hits like a truck and is fun to watch.

That music sounded like a bad 80's video game, just awful.

[CPortJGibbs89]

Dude looks like he has the same swag and style Taylor had. I will definitely be keeping an eye on him this year. On a side note these Taylor comparisons dont bother me one bit. Its only natural for us to see other guys coming out of college and think they play like Sean Taylor.

[KingGibbs]

Yeah, he does remind me of Ronnie Lott.

[bulldog]

so, who's the new Pat Tillman? who's the new Roberto Clemente in MLB in 2009?

meaningless comparisons.

[Capt Rich Fla]

Looks like the Raiders got a definate ball hawk. Look at the closing speed. Damn, he's quick to the ball.