Luxury yachts offer pirate hunting cruises off Somali coast.....

[RonArtest15]

This is inhumane and disgusting...


Luxury yachts offer pirate hunting cruises
Luxury ocean liners in Russia are offering pirate hunting cruises aboard armed private yachts off the Somali coast.

Wealthy punters pay £3,500 per day to patrol the most dangerous waters in the world hoping to be attacked by raiders.
When attacked, they retaliate with grenade launchers, machine guns and rocket launchers, reports Austrian business paper Wirtschaftsblatt.
Passengers, who can pay an extra £5 a day for an AK-47 machine gun and £7 for 100 rounds of ammo, are also protected by a squad of ex special forces troops.
The yachts travel from Djibouti in Somalia to Mombasa in Kenya.
The ships deliberately cruise close to the coast at a speed of just five nautical miles in an attempt to attract the interest of pirates.
"They are worse than the pirates," said Russian yachtsman Vladimir Mironov. "At least the pirates have the decency to take hostages, these people are just paying to commit murder," he continued.

http://www.ananova.com/news/story/sm_3374702.html

[GoSkins561]

I think it's a great idea, I am actually suprised Black Water like companies are not jumping all over a similar idea.

[Rdskn4Lyf21]

Let me get this straight....

People pay to go on a ship that essentially tries to get attacked so they can fight back with strong weaponry?

Sounds like a virtual reality game gone too far.

[GoSkins561]

Let me get this straight....

People pay to go on a ship that essentially tries to get attacked so they can fight back with strong weaponry?

Sounds like a virtual reality game gone too far.

It sounds to me like the piece of crap pirates attacked the wrong ship. These people are doing the world a favor.

[hockeysc23]

I mean i think the concept is obviously pushing the boundries but as long as they are attacked first and are just responding to the attacks .... then what's the problem?

I mean we are eliminating the greater threat of the pirates.

[Rdskn4Lyf21]

It sounds to me like the piece of crap pirates attacked the wrong ship. These people are doing the world a favor.

I never said I was against it. By all means if they attack, blow the ever-living **** out of them.

I just don't think it's the smartest hobby to pick up....

[JMS]

I must say .... that nut job Libertairian doctor guy actually proposed this (Ron Paul?).... name escapes me...

This is what the British did back in the golden days of piracy. Issued letters of mark, an official sanction from the state to privateers to police the oceans.

[Forehead]

You know, between this and the way the American military worked over that one group, piracy doesn't seem to be a good career choice anymore.

[SkinInsite]

I would be more impressed if these Rambo wannabes didn't hide behind ex special force troops.

[GoSkins561]

I never said I was against it. By all means if they attack, blow the ever-living **** out of them.

I just don't think it's the smartest hobby to pick up....

Seems like they are pretty well armed, maybe cargo ships will start selling hunting trips for cheap to the Average Joe. ;)

By the sounds of it, the pirates better work on building some better boats. Those piece of crap open hull wooden boats are not going ot cut it anymore.

[Stew]

I think its a great idea, i really wonder as to what the pirates think abou tit though. "Hey Pompou, do you think we should attack that one over there with the pile of gold on deck, that's spilling off the sides of that nice yacht?"

"No Hessi, we are looking for a boat to make a profit off of, not get blown out of the water by."

[Stew]

I never said I was against it. By all means if they attack, blow the ever-living **** out of them.

I just don't think it's the smartest hobby to pick up....

i knda want to sign up for a day trip.... How much American again?

Think of the vacation pictures this trip would yield...

[Monte51Coleman]

I guess the pirates better proceed with caution, huh?

[GoSkins561]

I would be more impressed if these Rambo wannabes didn't hide behind ex special force troops.

I am not sure they need the special forces guys, lets face it, the pirates are not very well trained. A lot of them are just kids. The special forces are there just in case something does go wrong.

[GoSkins561]

I think its a great idea, i really wonder as to what the pirates think abou tit though. "Hey Pompou, do you think we should attack that one over there with the pile of gold on deck, that's spilling off the sides of that nice yacht?"

"No Hessi, we are looking for a boat to make a profit off of, not get blown out of the water by."

:laugh:

I am pretty sure the OP didn't expect this type of reaction. :silly:

[RonArtest15]

:laugh:

I am pretty sure the OP didn't expect this type of reaction. :silly:

No, I figured people would be for it....my opinion is that it's extremely inhumane. You sign up for one of these trips with the premeditated notion to commit murder. I just hope that no one sheds a tear if any one of these voyages ends in a disaster.

[Madison Redskin]

While pirates should be imprisoned and, if necessary, killed, I can't imagine why people would PAY to kill a criminal. It's one thing to patrol the waters, fight off pirate attacks, and capture/kill pirates as part of a job (e.g., Navy sailor), it's quite another to kill another human being for sport, even if that human being is a criminal.

[Heisenberg]

Nevermind.

[GoSkins561]

No, I figured people would be for it....my opinion is that it's extremely inhumane. You sign up for one of these trips with the premeditated notion to commit murder. I just hope that no one sheds a tear if any one of these voyages ends in a disaster.

If any government, lets say Canada, took a group of ships to the Somali coast and started blowing pirate ships out of the water, would it still be "inhumane"?

edit: I don't have a problem with it either way, however I do think the only way to address the issue is to kick thier ass and kick it hard.

[SkinInsite]

First step to a real life Running Man.

[Tweedr01]

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_teiOH4TA4Y0/SgJpvQh9RGI/AAAAAAAAAU4/rYjJOFg7eug/s400/fatbeard.jpg

Attack who? These guys?

[WARLORD1863]

I mean i think the concept is obviously pushing the boundries but as long as they are attacked first and are just responding to the attacks .... then what's the problem?

I mean we are eliminating the greater threat of the pirates.

+1

I think it's incredibly dangerous, but this is a russian organized venture. Safety usually takes a back seat to opportunity.

[SolidSnake84]

I would pay to go do it. I hate pirates and what they are doing. I swear the world should attack pirates on sight....

[GoSkins561]

While pirates should be imprisoned and, if necessary, killed, I can't imagine why people would PAY to kill a criminal. It's one thing to patrol the waters, fight off pirate attacks, and capture/kill pirates as part of a job (e.g., Navy sailor), it's quite another to kill another human being for sport, even if that human being is a criminal.

Who is going to arrest them?

What prison system are we going to keep them?

Somalia doesn't have a government and the last thing we need to worry about is the world whining about how we are mis-treating Somalis pirates in Gitmo.

[RonArtest15]

If any government, lets say Canada, took a group of ships to the Somali coast and started blowing pirate ships out of the water, would it still be "inhumane"?

edit: I don't have a problem with it either way, however I do think the only way to address the issue is to kick thier ass and kick it hard.

You don't see anything wrong with killing someone for a "sport?" That's all this esentially is.

[Special K]

This is like the ultimate game for dudes. They get to use rocket launchers, I mean seriously, that's hysterical! LMAO.

[Henry]

So basically it's a safari where you try and kill people instead of big game.

Not shedding any tears for the pirates but it does seem kinda creepy.

[GoSkins561]

You don't see anything wrong with killing someone for a "sport?" That's all this esentially is.

I see them more as a group of vigilantes, part of the issue is how the article is worded and no I don't see a problem with people blowing up the pirates heavily armed wooden boats.

edit: nevermind sick thought about taxidermy

edit 2: I was going to say if they were making trophys out of the pirates that would be sick.

[sideshow24]

i knda want to sign up for a day trip.... How much american again?

..

$2,150

[panel]

No, I figured people would be for it....my opinion is that it's extremely inhumane. You sign up for one of these trips with the premeditated notion to commit murder. I just hope that no one sheds a tear if any one of these voyages ends in a disaster.

In humane? I dont think so.

I think it is fair to question what type of person would WANT to pay to be a part of the trips, but even so, this is a good thing for all ships that go by.

If pirates have to worry about if a ship will be under cover or not, then they will have to think twice about attacking a real ship that goes by without wepons.

It isn't murder if you are attacked first. If riding a yatch is enough to get attacked in pirate territory, the people at fault are not the prepared people in the yatch, it is the pirates that think they have the right to attack anything in the water that are at fault.

I am glad there are groups doing this.

[panel]

$2,150

Arn't Pounds worth more than dollars? Wouldn't it be more like $5,000 US?

[SkinInsite]

I am not sure they need the special forces guys, lets face it, the pirates are not very well trained. A lot of them are just kids. The special forces are there just in case something does go wrong.

And these rich tourists are trained? I doubt the people running the boat would let them use a rocket launcher lest someone blows a hole in the boat.

[ECU-ALUM]

I see a bad reality show coming out of this. :doh:

[RonArtest15]

In humane? I dont think so.

I think it is fair to question what type of person would WANT to pay to be a part of the trips, but even so, this is a good thing for all ships that go by.

If pirates have to worry about if a ship will be under cover or not, then they will have to think twice about attacking a real ship that goes by without wepons.

It isn't murder if you are attacked first. If riding a yatch is enough to get attacked in pirate territory, the people at fault are not the prepared people in the yatch, it is the pirates that think they have the right to attack anything in the water that are at fault.

I am glad there are groups doing this.

as a hunter, what's your primary objective? In this case, people are hunting humans as a sport. You say it isnt murder if you attack first, but if you are doing nothing but provoking the attack with the preconceived notion of killing your "prey," i fail to see how this is NOT considered murder or inhumane. I see what you're saying, but i respe tfully disagree.

Hopefully i can get on a computer an type more on this, but im on my phone. Excuse the typos etc.

[btfoom]

as a hunter, what's your primary objective? In this case, people are hunting humans as a sport. You say it isnt murder if you attack first, but if you are doing nothing but provoking the attack with the preconceived notion of killing your "prey," i fail to see how this is NOT considered murder or inhumane. I see what you're saying, but i respe tfully disagree.

Hopefully i can get on a computer an type more on this, but im on my phone. Excuse the typos etc.

I don't think they are provoking an attack, they are merely using the yacht as bait, hoping to be attacked (to me that is different than provoking someone). The pirates choose to attack the yacht, thinking it will be an easy score. Too bad for them.

[Forehead]

Wouldn't a better solution be to use these ex-military types, and the citizen vigilantes, and employ them as guards on shipping boats? You know, what pirates have been attacking in the first place. Then they're making money, and handing the issue in slightly less murderous fashion.

What they're doing now is like the poo dollar trick.

[sacase]

Only problem I have is that the author needs to brush up on geography. Djibouti (city), is located in the country of Djibouti, not Somalia.....Been there....its hot sweaty and poor as hell, but I made some good friends with the locals.

Anyways, this reminds me of that horrible Ice-T movie, surviving the game.

[SkinInsite]

BTW this whole thing might be a joke.

[sideshow24]

Arn't Pounds worth more than dollars? Wouldn't it be more like $5,000 US?

Oops! Did it backwards. $5,735

[hockeysc23]

You don't see anything wrong with killing someone for a "sport?" That's all this esentially is.

I disagree. it would be one thing if they started the attacks by firing first. But all they are doing is explaining how if attacked they would respond. Yes, you can make the claim they are provoking an attack but I feel as long as they shoot second then all they are doing is protecting their ship.

If the pirates didn't try to steal things and murder people this wouldn't be an issue because the vigilante boat would sail by and no one would attack it.

[Corcaigh]

How about a 'hunting safari' in US cities? Drive your SUV to a bad part of town and cruise around in the hope of getting carjacked, and then slaughter the attackers.

Is it certain that they will only shoot if the pirates shoot first? I doubt it.

[Tweedr01]

How about a 'hunting safari' in US cities? Drive your SUV to a bad part of town and cruise around in the hope of getting carjacked, and then slaughter the attackers.

Is it certain that they will only shoot if the pirates shoot first? I doubt it.

This isn't sanctioned or happening in US cities, this is off of a pirated coast on the other side of the world and is for sale through a russian company.

[Corcaigh]

This isn't sanctioned or happening in US cities, this is off of a pirated coast on the other side of the world and is for sale through a russian company.

What's your point? Is morality a function of longitude and latitude?

[Tweedr01]

What's your point? Is morality a function of longitude and latitude?

according to you it is, you brought up doing it in US cities

[Tweedr01]

It's illegal here, there are no rules there

[Corcaigh]

It's illegal here, there are no rules there

It's OK to kill anyone you like in international waters?

I didn't know that.

[stevenaa]

Wouldn't a better solution be to use these ex-military types, and the citizen vigilantes, and employ them as guards on shipping boats? You know, what pirates have been attacking in the first place. Then they're making money, and handing the issue in slightly less murderous fashion.

What they're doing now is like the poo dollar trick.

NM. Misread

[Tweedr01]

It's OK to kill anyone you like in international waters?

I didn't know that.

Yup, that's why you're defending the pirates killing people in unnarmed boats.

[Corcaigh]

Yup, that's why you're defending the pirates killing people in unnarmed boats.

I understand your logic now.

Questioning vigilante behavior is defending the murderous actions of pirates.

Just like anyone asking disagreeing with our president or foreign policy is on the side of the terrorists.

Got it.

[Tweedr01]

I understand your logic now.

Questioning vigilante behavior is defending the murderous actions of pirates.

Just like anyone asking disagreeing with our president or foreign policy is on the side of the terrorists.

Got it.


Way off topic, which president are you talking about BTW? Both recent ones have done a bang up job!

[Forehead]

I guess the pirates better proceed with caution, huh?

Shelly Booth Bishop isn't going to let them overegg the pudding.

[codeorama]

Awesome idea if there are people willing to do it. If the pirates figure out that some boats are armed and ready to fight, they might think twice.

[Heisenberg]

I find it funny reading some of the posters who like this idea.

Pretty sure that the Bible that some of you often quote or get worked up over would have a huge problem with this sort of thing.

I guess I could be wrong though.

[Tweedr01]

I find it funny reading some of the posters who like this idea.

Pretty sure that the Bible that some of you often quote or get worked up over would have a huge problem with this sort of thing.

I guess I could be wrong though.

Pretty sure the Bible doesn't bring up Somalian pirates attacking unnarmed ships.

I don't think God would have a problem with some of these people defending themselves. Like many have said the idea isn't to open fire on the pirates, if that were the case then I wouldn't really agree with it, but is to take a ride through the area, if attacked, fight back.

[Madison Redskin]

It's illegal here, there are no rules there

If your moral compass is based soley on the law, well nevermind.

[jpillian]

I'm much less concerned regarding the actual killing of the pirates, than the sociopathic behavior of those signing up for the venture.

Parallels would be folks paying money to put down animals (for say animal control) or to have the "privilege" of being the "executioner" at a lawful execution. Things that need to be done, but shouldn't be looked upon as sport/entertainment.

I'm much more concerned as to what else such people would do for kicks?

[GoSkins561]

And these rich tourists are trained? I doubt the people running the boat would let them use a rocket launcher lest someone blows a hole in the boat.

Your acting as if the crew from The Minnow are going on a hunting cruise. I am willing to bet a lot of these people probably fire guns on a regular basis, some probably ex-military.


How about a 'hunting safari' in US cities? Drive your SUV to a bad part of town and cruise around in the hope of getting carjacked, and then slaughter the attackers.

Is it certain that they will only shoot if the pirates shoot first? I doubt it.

We have laws / rehab / prison for law breakers. The Somalis 1. do not have a government to enforce the laws the pirates break 2. The Pirates do not have anyone to enforce the law for lets say shooting grenade launchers at cruise ships carrying thousands of innocent people


I find it funny reading some of the posters who like this idea.

Pretty sure that the Bible that some of you often quote or get worked up over would have a huge problem with this sort of thing.

I guess I could be wrong though.

The Bible doesn't have a problem with defending and fighting evil. David vs. Goliath comes to mind.

Nice try tough.


If your moral compass is based soley on the law, well nevermind.

In all fairness the pirate thing is getting out of control.

We have two options
1. wait for many years for some government or the UN:laugh: (yeah right) to take action or

2. Vigilantes can take care of the problem

at this point #2 seems like the best option.

Don't forget they are hijcking shipments (cargo boat loads aka thousands of lbs of food) full of humanitarian aid.

[Destino]

Paying to hunt humans. Sorry not supporting this. Wrong is wrong and paying to hunt people is wrong, I don't care who the people happen to be.

[skinfan13]

poor OP, I think his message didn't come across like he wanted. Honestly when I read the article it made me laugh

[kubstix]

Can someone please post a link on where you can register and take this trip? I got a buddy who also would like to do the same or at least look into it. This is good stuff. Eliminating threats while doing the world a favor, chilling on a ballin yacht boozin until we get there, getting to use machine guns or rocket launchers, this is a no brainer. It's like taking a vacation and being in a video game. What more could you want?

[#98QBKiller]

So basically it's a safari where you try and kill people instead of big game.

Not shedding any tears for the pirates but it does seem kinda creepy.



I'm concerned that there are people who in their minds think that this is such a great idea that they're willing to pay that sum of money to do this. Like you said though, I'm not going to cry for the pirates. If anything, maybe it will help deter some ship hijackings.

[Heisenberg]

The Bible doesn't have a problem with defending and fighting evil. David vs. Goliath comes to mind.

Nice try tough.






You have a very interesting point of view on a lot of issues.

So you're saying that you believe that this type of thing is moral - based upon the fundamental beliefs of the Christian religion?

[Corcaigh]

Can someone please post a link on where you can register and take this trip? I got a buddy who also would like to do the same or at least look into it. This is good stuff. Eliminating threats while doing the world a favor, chilling on a ballin yacht boozin until we get there, getting to use machine guns or rocket launchers, this is a no brainer. It's like taking a vacation and being in a video game. What more could you want?

Save yourself the money, and the risk of seasickness, and go hunting criminals in our inner cities.

We should be takin' care of America first!

[SkinInsite]

http://www.somalicruises.com/


"I got three confirmed kills on my last trip. I'll never hunt big game in Africa again. I felt like the Komandant in Schindlers list!" -- Lars , Hamburg Germany

"Six attacks in 4 days was more than I expected. I bagged three pirates and my 12yr old son sank two rowboats with the minigun. PIRATES: 0 - PASSENGERS: 32! Well worth the trip. Just make sure your spotter speaks English" -- Donald, Salt Lake city Utah USA

Another big hoax turned in to a news story.

[GoSkins561]

You have a very interesting point of view on a lot of issues.

So you're saying that you believe that this type of thing is moral - based upon the fundamental beliefs of the Christian religion?

Nope, I am not saying it all all, my opinions had nothing to do with my Christian values. All I was saying is, defeating evil isn't a bad thing in God's eyes.

Let's face it, they were involved in keeping food away from thousands of starving peoples mouths.

[Forehead]

Can someone please post a link on where you can register and take this trip? I got a buddy who also would like to do the same or at least look into it. This is good stuff. Eliminating threats while doing the world a favor, chilling on a ballin yacht boozin until we get there, getting to use machine guns or rocket launchers, this is a no brainer. It's like taking a vacation and being in a video game. What more could you want?

Weren't you the guy who, awhile ago, was complaining because people on here were dismissing you due to your age? Well, here's example 1 of why that happens. There's supporting the idea, which some people are doing, then there's posting your bloodthirsty rant and talking about it being "like a video game." You shouldn't be surprised that you get ignored.

[sacase]

Wonder if you can still get a letter of Marque.....

[Dan T.]

Are any nation's military units patrolling in "bait boats"? In other words, running undercover trying to lure the pirates to attack?

[IbleedBnG83]

Whatever man. Its ****ed up in a way. But as far as I am concerned, these mother ****ers shouldn't be jacking any boats. I gaurantee you this will get them to stop.


Or make them even more strapped:(

[PokerPacker]

question to those who don't like this. Would you feel better about it if people were paid to protect ships from pirates by killing the pirates when said ships were attacked?

[SkinnedAussie]

Where do I sign?

I much prefer this over big game hunting. At least the pirates are a chance to shoot back, and thus, creating a level playing field. I've never understood the purpose of shooting an unarmed opponent.

If game hunters are so tough, just go in with a knife and see who wins!

[IbleedBnG83]

Where do I sign?

I much prefer this over big game hunting. At least the pirates are a chance to shoot back, and thus, creating a level playing field. I've never understood the purpose of shooting an unarmed opponent.

If game hunters are so tough, just go in with a knife and see who wins!

Thats a good point. Although, I will always value a human life more than an animals. I know, I know, a life is a life. **** that. Human life > than animals. I don't condone animals to suffer. As long as the animal is later used for consumption am I OK with that.

[Hubbs]

While pirates should be imprisoned and, if necessary, killed, I can't imagine why people would PAY to kill a criminal. It's one thing to patrol the waters, fight off pirate attacks, and capture/kill pirates as part of a job (e.g., Navy sailor), it's quite another to kill another human being for sport, even if that human being is a criminal.

Hold on, hold on. Let me get this straight.

When Special Ops guys kill pirates after they've attacked, they're heroes.

When normal people do it, they're murderers.

Would I sign up for this? Hell no, because I'm a girly-man. But if someone else is going to be sitting in a ship and only shoot at pirates IF ATTACKED, what the hell is wrong with that? Just because they wanted the action doesn't change the morality of it. If you root for various navies to fight pirates, you also root for private citizens to fight pirates. The difference in status doesn't equate to a difference in right or wrong.

[Hubbs]

How about a 'hunting safari' in US cities? Drive your SUV to a bad part of town and cruise around in the hope of getting carjacked, and then slaughter the attackers.

Is it certain that they will only shoot if the pirates shoot first? I doubt it.

You, uh... you do realize that shooting at someone who shoots at you first is legal pretty much everywhere, right? Whether or not you were hoping that someone would shoot at you is irrelevant.

[Painkiller]

It sounds to me like the piece of crap pirates attacked the wrong ship. These people are doing the world a favor.

agreed. Go Russkies. I have ZERO problem with this. You attacked the wrong ship mother ****er !!! LOL

[Dan T.]

http://www.somalicruises.com/



Another big hoax turned in to a news story.

So it's a hoax, right?

I mean Anova, the source in the OP, ain't exactly Reuters. They make the Drudge Report look like a Peabody award winner.

[Spaceman Spiff]

I have a stiffy for rocket launchers.

[Forehead]

question to those who don't like this. Would you feel better about it if people were paid to protect ships from pirates by killing the pirates when said ships were attacked?

I think so yes...to me there's a difference between defending the boat you're on, and baiting these guys for the sole purpose of shooting them. To me, it's entrapment with much greater consequences. But I may be the one confused, because like I said, if these folks were employed by the ships being hijacked, then I would have no problem with them shooting once the pirates attack.

Oh, and I agree with whoever wrote this earlier, hiding behind ex special-forces guys is weak. If you're going to go out hunting people, at least have the sack to accept what may happen to you.

Edit* After looking at that website, this does seem fake.

[skinsfan44]

I think this is a great idea if true

Where do I sign up?

It is not murder if you are attacked first whether you are baiting them into it or not.

[Mooney]

Go Pirates.

[Tweedr01]

your acting as if the crew from the minnow are going on a hunting cruise. I am willing to bet a lot of these people probably fire guns on a regular basis, some probably ex-military.



We have laws / rehab / prison for law breakers. The somalis 1. Do not have a government to enforce the laws the pirates break 2. The pirates do not have anyone to enforce the law for lets say shooting grenade launchers at cruise ships carrying thousands of innocent people



the bible doesn't have a problem with defending and fighting evil. David vs. Goliath comes to mind.

Nice try tough.



In all fairness the pirate thing is getting out of control.

We have two options
1. Wait for many years for some government or the un:laugh: (yeah right) to take action or

2. Vigilantes can take care of the problem

at this point #2 seems like the best option.

Don't forget they are hijcking shipments (cargo boat loads aka thousands of lbs of food) full of humanitarian aid.

qft