NBA Draft thread

[royallypwned]

I didn't see a thread for just the draft in general. Here's one!

With all the trades going down, I fully expect the Rockets to trade TMac at some point tonight to get a draft pick.

[deejaydana]

The Lakers just sold the 29th to the Knicks (for the respective fans of each team). They Lakers are simply trying to conserve ca$h in an effort to retain both Ariza and Odom.

Link:

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=4285133

[No Excuses]

Yeah the Rockets are trying to get up in the lottery and TMac is their best option to move up. I don't think any team in the lottery wants him though. Basically every team is looking to rebuild rather than taking on a washed up SG.

[royallypwned]

Please Mavs do something!!

[StillUnknown]

stuart scott is annoying as hell

i wish i could mute him only

[royallypwned]

It is that time!!

[ixcuincle]

I miss Stephen A Smith. He was hilarious on the drafts, and people would heckle him about his snacks lol

Stern seen.

As usual got the draft on radio. Littles like me don't have cable.

Stern shout out to "those of you listening on ESPN Radio" i.e. me lol

[ixcuincle]

Stop booing the lakers you clowns

[deejaydana]

The more I look at that trade Orlando pulled today the more I wonder why they did it. Is Carter at his age, really making that team dramatically better? I mean, they already had plenty of scoring big men on that team. Anyone care to explain, I don't get it?

[ixcuincle]

First pick in the draft.

Clippers pick

BLAKE GRIFFIN

[Predicto]

Damn. I was frantically spreading false drug rumors about Blake Griffin, so that he could drop to the Warriors at No. 7.

Guess it didn't work. :kickcan:

[royallypwned]

soooo....Thabeet to Memphis?

[ixcuincle]

Memphis? Do something.

Pick in.

THABEET

[royallypwned]

Thabeet it is.

[royallypwned]

That opens it up for the Kings to take Rubio.

[No Excuses]

Rubio isn't going to Sacramento. They'll take Evans.

Rubio will most likely end up in Minnesota unless New York somehow trades up.

[ixcuincle]

OCity pick.

Harden!!!!!!

[royallypwned]

wow, Harden??

[WALEOVECHKIN]

questionable at best

[No Excuses]

I liked the Wizards trade but we could have gotten so much more had we waited until tonight and teams knew that Rubio is their at five. Ernie definitely pulled the trigger too fast.

[royallypwned]

Rubio isn't going to Sacramento. They'll take Evans.

Rubio will most likely end up in Minnesota unless New York somehow trades up.
I disagree, I think the Kings take Rubio. But we'll see.

edit: :doh:

[Predicto]

I disagree, I think the Kings take Rubio. But we'll see.

edit: :doh:

Kings should take Rubio. He would fill the seats.

[royallypwned]

Wolves have the next two picks.

[ixcuincle]

Rubio here?

4th pick.

Sac Town

TYREKE EVANS

RUBIO DROPS

[deejaydana]

Rubio looks like he's 14 years old to me.

[Predicto]

well, I was wrong there. Hehheh.

[StillUnknown]

rubio will be a bust in the league

wizards probably could've gotten alot more if they waited to pull the trigger on that deal

[Predicto]

Well, the Warriors get either Curry or Jordan Hill. Could be worse.

[ixcuincle]

Rubio drafted

[TheCool47]

As usual, a trade comes back to bite us. :doh:

[Predicto]

Cmon Twolves. Leave Curry to us.

Can you imagine how much fun Don Nelson would have with Curry's skill set?

[ixcuincle]

Teammate for Rubio...

FLYNNNNN

[royallypwned]

Rubio and Flynn for the Wolves.

[Gallen5862]

Hopefully Terrance Williams or Gerald Henderson makes it to Bobcats at 12.

[No Excuses]

Minnesota picks Flynn. Probably a trade in the works.

[Predicto]

Flynn? Huh?

Well, thanks. :D


I'm guessing that they picked Rubio for someone else.

[ixcuincle]

Predicto's team pick

CURRY

[Predicto]

LOL. Listen to those Knick fans booooooooing!

[royallypwned]

:rotflmao: @ the Knicks fans.

[The_Godfather]

LOL. Listen to those Knick fans booooooooing!

Music to my ears. :evilg:

[royallypwned]

:rotflmao: :rotflmao:

anyone else see that little kid give the thumbs-down for the Jordan Hill pick, and his dad turned his hand around to make it a thumbs-up? :rotflmao:

[Predicto]

Mark it down - If Griffin isnt the rookie of the year, Curry will be.

Don Nelson is going to give him every opportunity to get 22-25 points and 8-10 assists a game. Nelson loves a scoring PG. Plus, teams will have to put their best backcourt defender on Monte Ellis, not Curry.

Of course, the Warriors backcourt won't be able to guard anyone, but when have they ever done that?

[No Excuses]

Jordan Hill = Etan Thomas with a jumpshot

[The Villi Phanatic]

I know Hill hasn't been playing ball for that many years and can still improve some but I think this is too high for him to go. I'd easily take a guy like Teague ahead of him (granted, of course that they play different positions).

[ixcuincle]

B. Jennings drafted.

Shouldn't have gone to italy

[royallypwned]

I will be shocked if the Bobcats don't take Hansbrough.

[The Villi Phanatic]

Ah, so T-Will didn't fall as far as was predicted on some mocks. Good pick by the Nets. T-Will's got a Dwayne Wade-esque versatile game though I doubt he'll become as explosive a scorer.

[ixcuincle]

Charlotte picks Gerald Henderson

[royallypwned]

ah yes, Gerald Henderson. Should have mentioned him as well.

[The Villi Phanatic]

Hansborough this early would be a joke. If teams need a big man, Blair's still on the board as are inside-outside guys like Clark and Daye.

[The Villi Phanatic]

Henderson's a good pick. He stepped his game up big time this past season.

Best talents still available are Teague and Sam Young with guys like Lawson, Blair, and James Johnson just behind.

[ixcuincle]

Hansborough drafted

[killerbee99]

Major reach here....Hansborough

[MattFancy]

Major reach here....Hansborough

Nah I don't think so. Good move for the Pacers. Hansbrough will contribute solid minutes and be a really solid player. I don't think he'll be a superstar, but he should be very good off the bench.

[The Villi Phanatic]

Wow, this early for Hansborough? I don't think he'll be a bust per se, but I don't see much upside there. I'm thinking similar to Joakim Noah.

[killerbee99]

Wow, this early for Hansborough? I don't think he'll be a bust per se, but I don't see much upside there. I'm thinking similar to Joakim Noah.


Yup,.....same here

[royallypwned]

Suns pick Earl Clark?

[ixcuincle]

Phoenix drafts Earl Clark

NY fans booing. Some of the worst in sports.

[Predicto]

I dunno, does it seem to anyone else that the Pacers sort of, um, think they know what "kind" of player their fans want to root for? :doh:

That is why the Warriors were able to unload Mike Dunleavy and Troy Murphy on them.

Eh, maybe not. :whoknows:

[frankbones]

LOL @ Brandon Jennings.......that was hilarious.

[royallypwned]

daaaaaa Bulls are next.

[frankbones]

If I was the #1 pick next year, I would demand to come thru the curtains like Brandon Jennings did.

[DieselPwr44]

I dunno, does it seem to anyone else that the Pacers sort of, um, think they know what "kind" of player their fans want to root for? :
I grew up as a big Larry Bird fan. One of the all time greats.

But after the last few drafts he's been in charge of, I'm starting to wonder if he's another "Great basketball player but lousy judge of talent."

Of course in his defense though, it's hard to draft premier talent when you're stuck in the mediocre zone(13-21) year after year.

[ixcuincle]

Pacers drafted Georgetown icon Roy Hibbert last year...how did he do this year

Bulls drafting, pick James Johnson.

[Predicto]

I grew up as a big Larry Bird fan. One of the all time greats.

But after the last few drafts he's been in charge of, I'm starting to wonder if he's another "Great basketball player but lousy judge of talent."

Of course in his defense though, it's hard to draft premier talent when you're stuck in the mediocre zone(13-21) year after year.

I have no problem with the Larry Birds. Fantastic talent.

It's the "big mediocre white guy that our white fans will buy tickets to root for" that I have problems with.

Like I said, I have no proof that this is why they just drafted Haynesborough. But I suspect it, at least a little.

[frankbones]

Pacers drafted Georgetown icon Roy Hibbert last year...how did he do this year

Bulls drafting, pick James Johnson.

Didn't see the Pacers much, but judging from the #'s not great to average. He could still develop into a decent center.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/players/stats?playerId=3436

[ixcuincle]

Philly finally drafts Jrue Holliday

[royallypwned]

Please let Jeff Teague fall to 24...

[No Excuses]

You knew Hansbrough was going to either Indiana or Utah

[MattFancy]

Finally Lawson gets drafted! But why T'wolves?

[ixcuincle]

Why did Minnesota draft three rookie point guards?

[royallypwned]

Ty Lawson to Minny. :rotflmao:

three PG's, they need to trade one. Geeeez

[frankbones]

Another PG for Minny, obviously a trade in the works. I'm intrigued, who is looking for a PG? Ty to the Nugs.....I like it.

[MattFancy]

Lawson to Denver makes sense

[royallypwned]

okay yeah Lawson will be gone. Likely to the Nuggets.

[royallypwned]

Dear Hawks, don't draft Teague!

[royallypwned]

Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[ixcuincle]

ATL is stocking up talent. Teague drafted.

Watch out.

[royallypwned]

Dear Hawks, don't draft Teague!
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOo

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOoOOO o

:saber::saber::saber::saber:

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OO
OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[ixcuincle]

Radio says one of the 3 is being traded, most likely Rubio.

Wizards could use a pg ;)

[royallypwned]

Dear Jazz,

Don't draft Sam Young.

[ixcuincle]

Jazz pick

Maynor, VCU product

[frankbones]

I wonder if Portland is trying to get Rubio to team up with Rudy Fernadez? The have some pieces like Martell Webster, Travis Outlaw, Nicolas Batum, and Jerryd Bayless that could be used in a trade.

[royallypwned]

Dear Jazz,

Don't draft Sam Young.

thank you!


Dear Hornets,

Don't draft Sam Young.

[ixcuincle]

Ty Lawson dealt to Denver.

[skinsaddict]

go maynor!

[royallypwned]

thank you!


Dear Hornets,

Don't draft Sam Young.
thank you!


Dear Blazers,

Don't draft Sam Young.

[royallypwned]

Ty Lawson dealt to Denver.
You're about 10 minutes behind. ;)

[The Villi Phanatic]

Teague's a great pick that late for the Hawks.

Sam Young's the best player left IMO. I assume he'll go in the next few picks.

[RammsteinSkins]

:( Not Lawson or Hansbrough went to Chicago. Worst news all day....

[ixcuincle]

Who? Lol...

Never heard of him

[royallypwned]

thank you!


Dear Blazers,

Don't draft Sam Young.
hahaha thank you!


Dear Kings,

Don't draft Sam Young.

[ixcuincle]

Israeli drafted.

Young still available dallas guy

[royallypwned]

hahaha thank you!


Dear Kings,

Don't draft Sam Young.
YES!!!!


Dear Mavs,

DRAFT SAM YOUNG!!!!!!!!

[royallypwned]

I will puke if we draft BJ Mullens.

[royallypwned]

Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

[ixcuincle]

RoyallyPwned drafted

BJ MULLENS

ROFL ENJOY THAT FLOP

[royallypwned]

I will puke if we draft BJ Mullens.
:puke: :puke: :puke:

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
OOOOOO

[No Excuses]

I will puke if we draft BJ Mullens.

A crappy Dirk Nowitzki. Congrats lol.

[Chachie]

Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo




:hysterical:

[ixcuincle]

Mullens stinks, to come as high as he did into the college game and then fail to mediocrity...what a disappointment. I remember hearing he declared due to his financial situation, so to be kind I'll just wish him the best of luck.

I don't know how well he'll do in the pro game though. For goodness sake he came off the bench in college!

[frankbones]

I will puke if we draft BJ Mullens.

LOL, start yakking. As an OSU alum, I feel for you. I think the kid has about a 1% chance of becoming a good NBA player. If he works his ass off he could be a very good pick.

[royallypwned]

A crappy Dirk Nowitzki. Congrats lol.
he is a freakin bench center. I know the Mavs need a center, but WTF?!

[royallypwned]

hmm apparently a guy on a Mavs forum said the Mavs pick could be part of a trade. So I'll wait and see if anything happens.

[frankbones]

Before cjcdaman comes in here to defend his boy I just want to say Mullens is a piece of ****, to come as high as he did into the college game and then fail to mediocrity...

:p

Calling him a POS is pretty ignorant. The kid had a pretty rough upbringing and left to support his family.

http://www.dispatch.com/live/content/sports/stories/2009/03/08/bj_mullens_3-8.ART_ART_03-08-09_C1_BDD54JP.html

Definitely a risky pick, probably the riskiest in the draft. He has skills, he just needs to work on them. I wonder if he'll ever have the toughness to make it in the NBA.

[royallypwned]

Mavs trade Mullens to OKC for the pick just now. Beaubois.


:puke:

[No Excuses]

HAHAHAHA Rubio is now threatening to stay in Europe and Minnesota is being forced to trade him. Reports saying he's headed to New York.

Seems like Ernie was smart.

[frankbones]

hmm apparently a guy on a Mavs forum said the Mavs pick could be part of a trade. So I'll wait and see if anything happens.

Going to OKC

[No Excuses]

Mavs trade Mullens to OKC for the pick just now. Beaubois.


:puke:

Beaubois is legit. Dynamite athlete with an amazing jumpshot. The guy will be a good replacement for Jason Terry.

[ixcuincle]

I'm not getting the ESPN feed (ESPN radio) but didn't Bucer say something about Dallas trading that pick?

They better trade it and hope some sucker falls for it

[ixcuincle]

Calling him a POS is pretty ignorant. The kid had a pretty rough upbringing and left to support his family.

http://www.dispatch.com/live/content/sports/stories/2009/03/08/bj_mullens_3-8.ART_ART_03-08-09_C1_BDD54JP.html

Definitely a risky pick, probably the riskiest in the draft. He has skills, he just needs to work on them. I wonder if he'll ever have the toughness to make it in the NBA.

Meh. The comment was edited given the recent uproar about the lack of cordiality in the tailgate.

He was a bench player in college, he didn't live up to the hype in college, but we'll see how he does in the pros.

[royallypwned]

Beaubois is legit. Dynamite athlete with an amazing jumpshot. The guy will be a good replacement for Jason Terry.
We need a replacement for Kidd, not Terry. Actually we need a replacement for Josh Howard as well because he needs to be traded.


I'm not getting the ESPN feed (ESPN radio) but didn't Bucer say something about Dallas trading that pick?

They better trade it and hope some sucker falls for it
yeah they traded for the next pick from OKC. Rodrigue Beaubois.

[jthor99]

One would have to think the Timberwolves are going to deal one of these PG's. Either that or they don't have a clue on what their doing.

I'm still shocked that after picking Rubio you don't go ahead, and select Curry to go with him.

The selection of Lawson with that 3rd choice is also a head scratcher. Maybe it's because as others have mentioned is that Rubio is demanding a trade.

[SkinInsite]

Man I really hope the T-wolves are going to run a 3-point guard offense, that'll be sweet.

[The_Godfather]

HAHAHAHA Rubio is now threatening to stay in Europe and Minnesota is being forced to trade him. Reports saying he's headed to New York.

Seems like Ernie was smart.

Maybe they'll trade him to us for some more expiring contracts. ;)

[frankbones]

Meh. The comment was edited given the recent uproar about the lack of cordiality in the tailgate.

He was a bench player in college, he didn't live up to the hype in college, but we'll see how he does in the pros.

I agree with you on those points, but I actually think OKC might not be a bad fit for him. With Durant, Westbrook, and now Harden you have a lot of players that can make things happen with the ball. It should leave BJ with a lot of open dunks, which is about the only thing he did well at OSU.

[frankbones]

Is Lawson to Denver not a done deal?

[Gator Bait]

Wizards pick with a lot of talent still on the board. I hope we either use our pick, or get something dynamite for it and dump Mike James and Stevenson in the process.

[frankbones]

I'd take Blair, Brown, or Summers for the Wiz.

[royallypwned]

Maybe Sam Young will fall to #56. LOL

[Gator Bait]

why is no one in the chat?

[IONTOP]

Carroll to Memphis?

Didn't his team knock Memphis (NCAA) of the tourney?

How's that going to go over?

[Gator Bait]

I'd take Blair, Brown, or Summers for the Wiz.

of corse I'm hoping for Blair or a trade for Camby, but if that doesn't happen, I want Toney Douglas.

I know we are loaded in the back court and need front court help...but there is plenty of time to work a deal before camp starts.

I'm really high on Toney Douglas, he is a bawler!

[willmb5]

think the t-wolves will draft another point guard?

[No Excuses]

Wizards pick with a lot of talent still on the board. I hope we either use our pick, or get something dynamite for it and dump Mike James and Stevenson in the process.

James contract is an asset. We won't trade away to unload a 2nd round pick.

[SkinInsite]

WTF are the Bulls doing, why are they drafting Tyrus Thomas clones.

[jthor99]

If Teague works on his jumper he is the best value (besides Griffen, Rubio, and down the road Thabeet) in this draft. He also doesn't play much defense, but neither does anyone in the NBA!

[royallypwned]

Another guard for Minny. :rotflmao:

[Gator Bait]

Ellington will be the best pro out of this year's Tarheel class

[Gator Bait]

James contract is an asset. We won't trade away to unload a 2nd round pick.

you aren't unloading the 2nd....you are using the second along with James expiring to land a decent big man in a trade

[Gator Bait]

Another guard for Minny. :rotflmao:

at least they got a 2 guard instead of a point

[The_Godfather]

you aren't unloading the 2nd....you are using the second along with James expiring to land a decent big man in a trade

aw hell, make it the 2nd, James & Stevenson to get a better big man. :D

[ixcuincle]

World Champs draft Toney Douglas

Good pick

[royallypwned]

World Champs draft Toney Douglas

Good pick
Lakers are making that pick for the Knicks though.

[Gator Bait]

If Teague works on his jumper he is the best value (besides Griffen, Rubio, and down the road Thabeet) in this draft. He also doesn't play much defense, but neither does anyone in the NBA!

I think Thabeet and Rubio will both be busts

[No Excuses]

you aren't unloading the 2nd....you are using the second along with James expiring to land a decent big man in a trade

That still sucks. Your not going to get a quality big man and their is no point in giving up a expiring as large as James in a measly deal when you can get something bigger at the trade deadline when expirings are it's maximum value.

[royallypwned]

keep on falling Sam Young!! lol

[Gator Bait]

cavs will take dajuan Summers

[ixcuincle]

Final pick of round 1 here fellas.

Cavalier draft

Congo player

[royallypwned]

ok so who are the Wiz gonna take? You Wiz fans have any choices?

[Gator Bait]

That still sucks. Your not going to get a quality big man and their is no point in giving up a expiring as large as James in a measly deal when you can get something bigger at the trade deadline when expirings are it's maximum value.

I think the 2nd round pick, James, and Stevenson would land us Camby....and that would be well worth it.

cross your fingers though....we only have one more pick before ours....and then we can take blair.

[Gator Bait]

ok so who are the wiz gonna take? You wiz fans have any choices?

dejuan blair!!!!!

[Chachie]

ok so who are the Wiz gonna take? You Wiz fans have any choices?





Sam Young? ;)

[ixcuincle]

nvm beaten

[royallypwned]

dejuan blair!!!!!
That would be a solid pick for sure.


Sam Young? ;)
Then the Wizards will be one of my most hated teams. lol

nah, I know Young is going to go soon, but I can dream he'll fall to #56. Or maybe the Mavs will package some of the 2nd round picks they have received the last 36 hours to trade up tonight.

[Heidenreich]

Darko :doh:

I love the Knicks......

[No Excuses]

We will sell the pick or draft a Euro. Nick Cathales is still available.

[spjunkies]

I bet the idiot Wizards take a G-Town or Maryland kid.

[royallypwned]

WTF is taking the Kings so long??

[shuler74]

Come on wiz Josh Heytvelt please....

[Thinking Skins]

We will sell the pick or draft a Euro. Nick Cathales is still available.


I bet the idiot Wizards take a G-Town or Maryland kid.

Thats the norm for the Wizards.

[Gator Bait]

We will sell the pick or draft a Euro. Nick Cathales is still available.

I can see us selling it

I don't see us drafting Calathes

[ixcuincle]

PENDERGRAF

good pick

[royallypwned]

LOL @ the guy announcing the trade the Mavs made. We knew that about an hour ago.

[No Excuses]

This is most likely a Euro player like Jerebko or Cathales. I highly doubt Ernie wants a rookie on the team this year.

[royallypwned]

MAVS TRADE UP PLZ

kthx

[TheCool47]

Jeff Van Gundy says we need a shooting guard.:rotflmao:

[Gator Bait]

This is most likely a Euro player like Jerebko or Cathales. I highly doubt Ernie wants a rookie on the team this year.

You have to take Blair....he is exactly what we need

[No Excuses]

You have to take Blair....he is exactly what we need

Yup but he doesn't seem like an Ernie pick

[royallypwned]

Wiz take Jermaine Taylor?

[ixcuincle]

Wizards on the clock now, let's get some good ****

Pendergraph traded. And I know I'm behind on most of the trade stuff, that's what I get for listening on the radio.

Hurry up and pick Wizards.

Rockets?

Wizards draft

JERMAINE TAYLOR

CF

NEVER HEARD OF HIM

[No Excuses]

WTF who????

[Thinking Skins]

haha Jermaine Taylor a guard!

[ixcuincle]

Why do we need another guard

we need frontcourt help

do we have another pick wizards fans?

[Gator Bait]

anyother effing guard....you gotta be kiddin me

[spjunkies]

I think Vinny broke into the Zards draft room.

[No Excuses]

Pick is getting traded like last years.

[royallypwned]

do we have another pick wizards fans?
not unless they trade for one.

[TheCool47]

Way to up our defense.

[Destino]

Another sign of a trade. A lot of rumors that we are going after a front court player and trying to make a run.

[royallypwned]

Sam Young still there! lol

[ixcuincle]

I guess we are "Minnesota Lite"

Got their ex coach, and got as many guards as Minnesota. Rofl.

[Chachie]

The Washington Guards.

[willmb5]

arenas, james, foye, stevenson, young, and now taylor? intersting. the front office must not like nick young that much to take taylor there.

[No Excuses]

We are now to shooting guards what the Detroit Lions are to wide receivers, the Cowboys are to linebackers and the T'Wolves are to point guards.

Mike Miller, Randy Foye, DeShawn Stevenson, Nick Young, Jermaine Taylor.

Nice!

[ixcuincle]

We better be trading this ****. We don't need more guards. We need ****ing frontcourt help. How does the FO not realize this?

[Duckus]

This draft will haunt us for for a decade. The trade was an absolute disaster now. Rubio will be a stud.

[frankbones]

Another sign of a trade. A lot of rumors that we are going after a front court player and trying to make a run.

This is what I am hoping for.

[Buford]

Rubio would have been nice. But he's 18 years old. In 3-4 years when he's just entering his prime. He'd either leave via FA, and/or there won't be any parts around him.

2nd round pick must be trade bait.

[ixcuincle]

Summers finally drafted

[Chachie]

I stayed tuned and stayed up for Jermaine Taylor? That bum got knocked out by a white guy. Twice.

[No Excuses]

Jermaine Taylor is getting traded to Houston

[willmb5]

I stayed tuned and stayed up for Jermaine Taylor? That bum got knocked out by a white guy. Twice.

Haha....that bum also looked a lot like Sean Taylor IMO

[Thinking Skins]

Jermaine Taylor is getting traded to Houston

he'd better

[royallypwned]

nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo ooo

[royallypwned]

bye Sam Young. :(

[royallypwned]

**** the Spurs!!!!!!

[ixcuincle]

Who are we getting in exchange for Jermaine Taylor?

[Duckus]

Jermaine Taylor is getting traded to Houston

For what you think?

[Bubble Screen]

The more I look at that trade Orlando pulled today the more I wonder why they did it. Is Carter at his age, really making that team dramatically better? I mean, they already had plenty of scoring big men on that team. Anyone care to explain, I don't get it?

As I stated in another thread, Carter is one of the more overrated players in the NBA. This is a terrible move. They are now a worse team for it.


wow, Harden??

Terrible pick. Guy is good. But he isn't worthy of going that high.


Nah I don't think so. Good move for the Pacers. Hansbrough will contribute solid minutes and be a really solid player. I don't think he'll be a superstar, but he should be very good off the bench.

Nope. He's not going to amount to much of anything at this level. Think Mark Madsen.


Ellington will be the best pro out of this year's Tarheel class

I doubt it. I still think Green will eventually be the best of that group. None will ever be that good of an NBA player though. That includes Lawson.

**As for my opinion of this draft. Terrence Williams is the best player in this draft. He will improve his shooting and turn out to be a stud in this league.

[Gator Bait]

Jermaine Taylor.



by drafting jermaine Taylor, we are looking to win a ring magazine light heavy weight championship

[skinsfan07]

I stayed tuned and stayed up for Jermaine Taylor? That bum got knocked out by a white guy. Twice.

That's the boxer, not the bball player.

:cool:

[No Excuses]

For what you think?

Cash considerations

[StillUnknown]

surprised Blair dropped as far as he did

at least he's goin to a good squad

[The Villi Phanatic]

Summers finally drafted

Sam Young should easily be going ahead of Summers and I assume they both project to the same position in the pros (small forward). Don't know why he hasn't been drafted yet. I know he's older than most in the draft (I think I saw that he's 24); don't know if that's a factor but he's too good to still be on the board.

[ixcuincle]

Jon Brockman drafted. Edit : Traded app. to Sac so forget that

[skinsfan07]

he did look alot like ST though....

http://pilgerstrainingsystems.com/images/top10pound/jermain25.jpg

[No Excuses]

So we trade Taylor to Houston for cash

Spurs pick up Blair who will come in, defend and rebound his tail off for a championship squad. Man our 2nd round has been a huge dud for the past two years.

[StillUnknown]

by drafting jermaine Taylor, we are looking to win a ring magazine light heavy weight championship

i wonder if this taylor gasses late into the game???

[Duckus]

Wizards Extreme post says that Rubio's twitter says he is staying in Europe.

What a ****ing baby.

Still wish we had drafted him - he is going to be a STUD.

[Gator Bait]

i wonder if this taylor gasses late into the game???

hahaha

[The Villi Phanatic]

Ah, I see Young just got scooped up a couple picks ago. About time.

Best guys left are probably Danny Green and Mcneil as well as others like Harris, Heytvelt, Thornton, and Mcclinton.

[No Excuses]

Taylor sold to Houston for 2.5 million. WOW that's a lot of money for a 2nd round player. This might actually help us getting a fifth big man on the roster, someone like Joe Smith.


Wizards Extreme post says that Rubio's twitter says he is staying in Europe.

What a ****ing baby.

Still wish we had drafted him - he is going to be a STUD.

He said he would have refused to play for us too so no point.

[ixcuincle]

Flip Saunders on radio right now for those interested. In the DC area it is WTNT 570 AM.

[Chachie]

That's the boxer, not the bball player.

:cool:





Oh. :no:

[Buford]

Wizards Extreme post says that Rubio's twitter says he is staying in Europe.

What a ****ing baby.

Still wish we had drafted him - he is going to be a STUD.


If Washington took him and he stayed over there, then what? Nothing would have been added.

[spjunkies]

So if I'm understand this right the Wolves just wasted a pick on this bum? what a prick.

[JeffSchmeff]

What's the point of trading someone for cash?

[TheCool47]

More free agent signings?

[ixcuincle]

Jodie Meeks drafted

Phenom Kentucky guard

[StillUnknown]

Meeks should've gone back to Kentucky

[Duckus]

If Washington took him and he stayed over there, then what? Nothing would have been added.

If we had the 5th pick, and he slips like he did then I think we can get more than Foye and Miller in a trade.

Also, I think he would have come here if we did pick him. Yea, he said he did not want to, but that was because of playing time/role concerns with Gilbert. I think you can convince him to come. But who knows.

[McD5]

The more I look at that trade Orlando pulled today the more I wonder why they did it. Is Carter at his age, really making that team dramatically better? I mean, they already had plenty of scoring big men on that team. Anyone care to explain, I don't get it?

What is so hard to understand?

In addition to producing the best football players in the country, central Florida also produces many of the best bball players in the country.

T-Mac, Amare and Vince are all local HS stars. He is a hometown guy--a star from Daytona Beach.

He averaged over 20 pts a game yet again last season. 8 time all-star.

Lee averaged 8 pts a game last season.

While Lee has a long career in front of him, and showed talent, Vince is an immediate upgrade in the search for a ring next season.

[royallypwned]

ANOTHER PG for Minny!! :rotflmao:

[ixcuincle]

Minnesota is obsessed with guards.

[royallypwned]

Cavs get Danny Green. Pretty solid pick.

[royallypwned]

OMG Minny picked a forward!!!!!!! :yikes:

[ixcuincle]

Winners and Losers for this draft being discussed on radio. Might as well join in too.

Nets listed as "winner"

Is Minnesota a winner?

Jack McClinton not drafted wtf...

TAYLOR GRIFFIN DRAFTED

[royallypwned]

Winners and Losers for this draft being discussed on radio. Might as well join in too.

Nets listed as "winner"

Is Minnesota a winner?
Minnesota is dinner.

[StillUnknown]

so does Taylor Griffin play in Phoenix or stay with the Harlem Globetrotters? lol

[ixcuincle]

Jack McClinton was one of the best guards in the ACC and remains undrafted. Hopefully he can find a team.

[royallypwned]

One guy I wouldn't mind the Mavs drafting is Robert Dozier out of Memphis. But I know we'll just pick another foreigner.

[Fight4RGIII]

WTF Dave Neal still on the board

[royallypwned]

Mavs on the clock. *prays*

[royallypwned]

Mavs = Ahmad Nivins

I DIG IT http://insider.espn.go.com/nbadraft/draft/tracker/player?playerId=19383

[Warhead36]

WTF Dave Neal still on the board

:hysterical: he is the white Michael Ruffin

[royallypwned]

WAIT! The Mavs traded for Calathes? Did they say something about this?

[McD5]

Magic vs Lakers. Let's do it again.

The trade gives the Magic even more star power on their quest to win an NBA championship. The addition of Carter to a lineup that already consists of All-Star players Dwight Howard (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/players/profile?playerId=2384), Rashard Lewis (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/players/profile?playerId=469) and Jameer Nelson (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/players/profile?playerId=2439) would make Orlando the favorite to win the Eastern Conference title next year if the franchise also finds a way to bring back Hedo Turkoglu (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/players/profile?playerId=862), who will opt out of his contract this summer.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=4287197

[royallypwned]

the last pick of the draft...the Miami cHeat select Robert Dozier.

That's who I wanted the Mavs to take!

[G.A.C.O.L.B.]

He said he would have refused to play for us too so no point.

Sure did. His agent has beef with the Wizards and he didn't feel like Rubio would be a good fit with Agent Zero so he wouldn't even let the Wizards interview the guy. It would have been ugly if we had drafted him.

And besides, I seriously doubt anyone here has actually seen him play. I know all I have to go on is some youtube mixtapes. And as I've proven on WE, Harold Miner has a sick youtube mixtape. So that means nothing. From what I hear he can't shoot for **** and is a project.

And 2.5 mil is a ton. I think last year we sold the pick for half a million.

Oh and the official Wiz twitter says that Ernie Grunfeld will have some more news in the morning. Whatever that means.

[deejaydana]

What is so hard to understand?

In addition to producing the best football players in the country, central Florida also produces many of the best bball players in the country.

T-Mac, Amare and Vince are all local HS stars. He is a hometown guy--a star from Daytona Beach.

He averaged over 20 pts a game yet again last season. 8 time all-star.

Lee averaged 8 pts a game last season.

While Lee has a long career in front of him, and showed talent, Vince is an immediate upgrade in the search for a ring next season.

Where do I start ? Can you put aside your blatant homerism for just a moment? OK, so they're all homegrown talent, I get that you enjoy that because I do too but is this really that great of a trade? Vince is a (quickly fading) star and is essentially a complimentary player to Lewis. Sure, he has more 'to the basket' skills but you're losing Hedo so how exactly are you better? And Hedo plays defense. Carter plays even less than Lewis (if that's possible). This is just an 'stay even' trade for your team. It's the equivalent of the Shaq trade for the Cavs. I await your well tempered response.

[deejaydana]

Doh! delete!

[McD5]

Where do I start ? Can you put aside your blatant homerism for just a moment? OK, so they're all homegrown talent, I get that you enjoy that because I do too but is this really that great of a trade? Vince is a (quickly fading) star and is essentially a complimentary player to Lewis. Sure, he has more 'to the basket' skills but you're losing Hedo so how exactly are you better? And Hedo plays defense. Carter plays even less than Lewis (if that's possible). This is just an 'stay even' trade for your team. It's the equivalent of the Shaq trade for the Cavs. I await your well tempered response.

What makes you think that Hedo is gone?

The Magic have one of the richest owners in the league. While the source of his wealth is a little questionable to some, he is absolutely loaded.

After losing Shaq....and having a worthless coach who let Ben Wallace go, he isn't about to let Hedo leave town.

The Magic have a brand new stadium, revenues won't be an issue. One year over the cap for a title? Devoss will do that.


Rafer was good last season, but a healthy Jameer is better.

Tony B wasn't anything....but he was due 6 mill next season.

And Courtney Lee is a good young player, but Vince averages more than twice as many points a game, and can create plays himself.

Read Vince's comments about the trade. I will link a few. His biggest is, "For the first time in my career, I am finally with a team that can win a title. That is a dream for NBA players."

What did they really lose? Rafer was gone regardless. So they traded Lee for Vince.

Edit: "Every player hopes for an opportunity like this, to just once compete for an NBA championship," Carter said. "This a dream come true for me. Now I have a chance to win a championship."

[deejaydana]

Hey man, hold on to your faith, I don't think they keep Hedo, if they do they will be stacked but it would be highly unusual for a player to not want to essentially double his salary (or come close to it which is what some teams can do at this point for him). Players have a short shelf life, most of them want the here and now no matter how great the city. Stranger things have happened.

[McD5]

Hey man, hold on to your faith, I don't think they keep Hedo, if they do they will be stacked but it would be highly unusual for a player to not want to essentially double his salary (or come close to it which is what some teams can do at this point for him). Players have a short shelf life, most of them want the here and now no matter how great the city. Stranger things have happened.

Hedo would have otherwise made 7 mill this season.

He is asking for 10 mill.

That isn't exactly a double. Especially with one of the richest owners in the league.

And let's look at the big picture for a minute. There are only what? 4 teams that have a chance at a title next year? In no order:

Lakers
Magic
Celtics
Cavs

That is it. So unless Hedo is going to Boston.....10 mill and a chance for a ring is a pretty good offer.

[Bubble Screen]

Sure did. His agent has beef with the Wizards and he didn't feel like Rubio would be a good fit with Agent Zero so he wouldn't even let the Wizards interview the guy. It would have been ugly if we had drafted him.

And besides, I seriously doubt anyone here has actually seen him play. I know all I have to go on is some youtube mixtapes. And as I've proven on WE, Harold Miner has a sick youtube mixtape. So that means nothing. From what I hear he can't shoot for **** and is a project.

And 2.5 mil is a ton. I think last year we sold the pick for half a million.

Oh and the official Wiz twitter says that Ernie Grunfeld will have some more news in the morning. Whatever that means.

I saw Rubio play in the Olympics. He seemed like the real deal to me. At least playing that style of basketball. NBA is a different breed. Not sure how his game will translate. And he has to get bigger.


Where do I start ? Can you put aside your blatant homerism for just a moment? OK, so they're all homegrown talent, I get that you enjoy that because I do too but is this really that great of a trade? Vince is a (quickly fading) star and is essentially a complimentary player to Lewis. Sure, he has more 'to the basket' skills but you're losing Hedo so how exactly are you better? And Hedo plays defense. Carter plays even less than Lewis (if that's possible). This is just an 'stay even' trade for your team. It's the equivalent of the Shaq trade for the Cavs. I await your well tempered response.

McD is too big a homer to focus on reality. Carter has never cared much about giving his all on the defensive end. That won't change. And he's a streaky shooter. The Magic WILL lose Hedo. So basically they're choosing Vince over Hedo. Dumb move.

And while I know they had to get rid of Alston, I think it hurts as well. He got them to the playoffs. He was a main factor in them reaching the Finals, even. I know they have to keep Nelson over Alston. But I just think losing Alston, coupled with the Carter move, have made this team worse.

[McD5]

Carter has never cared much about giving his all on the defensive end. That won't change. And he's a streaky shooter. The Magic WILL lose Hedo. So basically they're choosing Vince over Hedo. Dumb move.



Carter carried his entire team yet again last season.

Next season, he won't have to carry a team. He won't have that pressure.

As far as defense goes, with the exception of having the best defensive player in the league, the Magic aren't exactly a defensive force.

Now, maybe teams can't win it all with that style. Maybe it is total stupidity. But they like to score points.

They already set the NBA all-time record for most 3s last season, and at least on paper, they have just added another 12 pts a game to their team.

Who exactly do you try and stop now? Dwight? Hedo? Rashard? Vince? or Jameer?

What a ***** to try and plan for that team.


It is also possible that the Magic fear losing Hedo.....and have signed Vince just in case. Time will tell.

[StillUnknown]

apparently Rubio's dad is saying he may stay in Spain for another year or two

[skinsfan834]

Hedo would have otherwise made 7 mill this season.

He is asking for 10 mill.

That isn't exactly a double. Especially with one of the richest owners in the league.

And let's look at the big picture for a minute. There are only what? 4 teams that have a chance at a title next year? In no order:

Lakers
Magic
Celtics
Cavs

That is it. So unless Hedo is going to Boston.....10 mill and a chance for a ring is a pretty good offer.

You have to add the Spurs to that list IMO.

Parker
Ginobli
Jefferson
Duncan

That is a pretty solid line-up right there.

[ixcuincle]

It was good to hear that Jack McClinton was drafted by the Spurs. I'm telling you, that guy is good. I remember watching him play in the ACC and he was amazing.

[Bubble Screen]

You have to add the Spurs to that list IMO.

Parker
Ginobli
Jefferson
Duncan

That is a pretty solid line-up right there.

I agree. And I could see the Spurs getting back in the mix next year. Especially if Phil retires and they don't bring Odom and/or Ariza back.


It was good to hear that Jack McClinton was drafted by the Spurs. I'm telling you, that guy is good. I remember watching him play in the ACC and he was amazing.

C'mon, he's not THAT good. If I recall, he seemed to be a tad inconsistent. And not very good on the defensive end. Not real surprised he didn't go higher.

[deejaydana]

You have to add the Spurs to that list IMO.

Parker
Ginobli
Jefferson
Duncan

That is a pretty solid line-up right there.

You also have to add the Nuggets who added Ty Lawson last night and took the Lakers to more games then Orlando did. Actually the Spurs had a stellar draft last night and are already better then this past season w/the addition of Jefferson. The West is still far better then the East imho.

[kuraitengai]

The more I look at that trade Orlando pulled today the more I wonder why they did it. Is Carter at his age, really making that team dramatically better? I mean, they already had plenty of scoring big men on that team. Anyone care to explain, I don't get it?
im a magic fan and i cant explain it. lee was a good defender and an ok scorer for being a rookie. he would only get better. and alston is going to be a backup in NJ, coulda just kept him as backup here and dumped anthony johnson.

i hate the whole 'win it now' mentality. we got to the finals with what we had already. then we trade away two components of it for a mid-30s SG just cuz he averages almost 25 a game?

[MattFancy]

im a magic fan and i cant explain it. lee was a good defender and an ok scorer for being a rookie. he would only get better. and alston is going to be a backup in NJ, coulda just kept him as backup here and dumped anthony johnson.

i hate the whole 'win it now' mentality. we got to the finals with what we had already. then we trade away two components of it for a mid-30s SG just cuz he averages almost 25 a game?

I dunno I like the Magic trade. Maybe because I'm a big VC fan, but I think it'll work out. I think the Magic needed a scorer from the 2 position and Carter can provide that. He's been stuck on mediocore teams his whole career and now will have a chance to shine. If the Magic can somehow keep Turkoglu, can you imagine a lineup of Howard, Lewis, Turkoglu, Carter, and Nelson? That would be insane!

[Bubble Screen]

You also have to add the Nuggets who added Ty Lawson last night and took the Lakers to more games then Orlando did. Actually the Spurs had a stellar draft last night and are already better then this past season w/the addition of Jefferson. The West is still far better then the East imho.

Dude, Lawson isn't gonna amount to much. And he likely won't see much playing time for a few years anyway. And the West isn't as good as the East now. Heck, it wasn't even better last year. And now the Cavs and Magic (remains to be seen) just got better? I don't see the logic there.


im a magic fan and i cant explain it. lee was a good defender and an ok scorer for being a rookie. he would only get better. and alston is going to be a backup in NJ, coulda just kept him as backup here and dumped anthony johnson.

i hate the whole 'win it now' mentality. we got to the finals with what we had already. then we trade away two components of it for a mid-30s SG just cuz he averages almost 25 a game?

As least one Magic fan gets it. I thought it was dumb, too.


I dunno I like the Magic trade. Maybe because I'm a big VC fan, but I think it'll work out. I think the Magic needed a scorer from the 2 position and Carter can provide that. He's been stuck on mediocore teams his whole career and now will have a chance to shine. If the Magic can somehow keep Turkoglu, can you imagine a lineup of Howard, Lewis, Turkoglu, Carter, and Nelson? That would be insane!

Again, Carter is overrated. Take off the blinders, dude. You just like him because he's a former Tar Heel. He won't help this team much. And they certainly aren't better because of this move. You'll see. And no way does Turkoglu stay now. That should have been obvious the moment that trade was made.

[deejaydana]

Dude, Lawson isn't gonna amount to much. And he likely won't see much playing time for a few years anyway. And the West isn't as good as the East now. Heck, it wasn't even better last year. And now the Cavs and Magic (remains to be seen) just got better? I don't see the logic there.




Huh?
Let's see, the Suns who didn't qualify for the paloffs in the West, would have been the # 5 seed had they been in the East this past year. Look at the ascendant teams in the West: Nuggets, Jazz and Trailblazers. The Spurs and Lakers also make the West better, right now, than the East. The Spurs just got noticeably better w/Jefferson. The recent trades may be tipping the scales back but I don't see the East as better or even equal at the moment. Going purely off records your assertion is shot down.
See the final #'s for yourself here:
http://www.nba.com/standings/team_record_comparison/conferenceNew_Std_Cnf.html

[MattFancy]

I still think the West is going to be tough. The East is just top heavy with Orlando, Boston, and Cleveland. The Suns didn't make the playoffs last year in the West and would've been a 5 or 6 seed in the East.

I think Lawson will see a good amount of minutes next season. The Nuggets like to get up and down the court and Lawson has plenty of experience in that kind of offense. Plus he won't be rushed into playing because he can learn from Billups.

I don't think Carter is overrated. He's never been on a great team and has always had the pressure of carrying the team. Now he won't have to bare that burrden because it will be more on Howard than Carter. Carter can easily average around 20 a game. Its good insurance for the Magic if they can't keep Hedo.

[Buford]

overall a ho-hum draft. The trades are in my opinion much bigger.

On the topic of Rubio. His agent made it clear that he didn't want his client in Washington. With an option of staying in Europe. Washington could have taken him, and gotten nothing. Still be stuck with those contracts, and people would have blasted that.

[No Excuses]

Carter carried his entire team yet again last season.

Next season, he won't have to carry a team. He won't have that pressure.

As far as defense goes, with the exception of having the best defensive player in the league, the Magic aren't exactly a defensive force.

Now, maybe teams can't win it all with that style. Maybe it is total stupidity. But they like to score points.

They already set the NBA all-time record for most 3s last season, and at least on paper, they have just added another 12 pts a game to their team.

Who exactly do you try and stop now? Dwight? Hedo? Rashard? Vince? or Jameer?

What a ***** to try and plan for that team.


It is also possible that the Magic fear losing Hedo.....and have signed Vince just in case. Time will tell.

Anthony Johnson, JJ Reddick, Mikael Pietrus.

Enjoy your bench and good luck getting any more quality players with the little money you have left.

[Thinking Skins]

I hope we can find some more big men. It doesn't feel right with the lack of a presence there.