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techboy
July-13th-2009, 11:01 AM
The full article (http://www.foxbusiness.com/story/markets/al-lewis-wells-fargo-bank-sues/) is here, but this is the excerpt that made me laugh:


You can't expect a bank that is dumb enough to sue itself to know why it is suing itself.

Yet I could not resist asking Wells Fargo Bank NA why it filed a civil complaint against itself in a mortgage foreclosure case in Hillsborough County, Fla.

"Due to state foreclosure laws, lenders are obligated to name and notify subordinate lien holders," said Wells Fargo spokesman Kevin Waetke.

Being a taxpayer-subsidized, too-big-to-fail institution, it's possible that one of the few ways for Wells Fargo & Co. (WFC: 24.15, 1.24, 5.41%) to know what it is doing is to notify itself with a court filing.

In this particular case, Wells Fargo holds the first and second mortgages on a condominium, according to Sarasota, Fla., attorney Dan McKillop, who represents the condo owner.

As holder of the first, Wells Fargo is suing all other lien holders, including the holder of the second, which is itself.

"The primary reason is to clear title and ownership interest in a property to prepare it for sale," Waetke said in an email exchange. "So it really is not Wells Fargo vs. Wells Fargo."

Yet court documents clearly label "Wells Fargo Bank NA" as the plaintiff and "Wells Fargo Bank NA" as a defendant.

Wells Fargo hired Florida Default Law Group., P.L., of Tampa, Fla., to file the lawsuit against itself.

And then Wells Fargo hired another Tampa law firm -- Kass, Shuler, Solomon, Spector, Foyle & Singer P.A. -- to defend itself against its own lawsuit, according to court documents.

Wells Fargo's defense lawyers even filed an answer to their client's own complaint.

"Defendant admits that it is the owner and holder of a mortgage encumbering the subject real property," the answer reads. "All other allegations of the complaint are denied."

I'm sure there's some convoluted legal reason they did this, but the idea that they hired two different law firms while suing themselves and "denying all allegations" (that they made!) is very amusing to me.

PeterMP
July-13th-2009, 11:09 AM
I'm guessing they are denying the allegations made are true of them, but possibly for other parties involved.

Rocky21
July-13th-2009, 11:23 AM
Damn, that is funny.

DjTj
July-13th-2009, 11:46 AM
I'm sure there's some convoluted legal reason they did this, but the idea that they hired two different law firms while suing themselves and "denying all allegations" (that they made!) is very amusing to me.The convoluted legal reason was provided in the comments to the news article:

Florida is a judicial foreclosure state. Meaning all foreclosures are addressed by the court system. The Florida law requires that the lienholder bringing foreclosure suit against the defaulting borrower.....also include ALL junior lienholders in the suit. Wells fargo also has a junior lien. Hence it names itself as a defendent. A responsibility of the Junior lien holders is to re-affirm their lien....if it still exists. If they don't respond to the complaint...the court assumes the lien is no longer valid. Because a foreclosure can be set aside if the plaintif doesn't follow the letter of the law... Wells names itself as a defendent.

http://www.foxbusiness.com/story/markets/al-lewis-wells-fargo-bank-sues/comments/#AddComments

I'm not sure they had to deny all other allegations, but that's just the standard thing to do when responding to a complaint filed against multiple parties.

Tulane Skins Fan
July-13th-2009, 12:02 PM
Well, its a foreclosure... so its not really even a lawsuit as most people think of the word "lawsuit." It probably is overkill on their part, but they are most likely just trying to foreclose "by the book."

Larry
July-13th-2009, 12:02 PM
I'm not sure they had to deny all other allegations, but that's just the standard thing to do when responding to a complaint filed against multiple parties.

Yeah, the impression I get is that when you're sued, it's SOP to pretty much deny everything except "My name and address is".

Thiebear
July-13th-2009, 12:31 PM
the money wasted in hiring multiple lawyers for this too complicated of a process.

twa
July-13th-2009, 12:43 PM
the money wasted in hiring multiple lawyers for this too complicated of a process.

Indeed,hell I just paid a couple hundred simply to sell something to myself...legally:silly:

techboy
July-13th-2009, 02:21 PM
The convoluted legal reason was provided in the comments to the news article:


Well, its a foreclosure... so its not really even a lawsuit as most people think of the word "lawsuit." It probably is overkill on their part, but they are most likely just trying to foreclose "by the book."

It's still funny.