Players In The NFL Who Are Class Acts

[Califan007]

Who are some of the current players that you feel are truly class acts? We hear enough about the toeheads that make the headlines...who are the stand-up guys who have their heads on straight and are worth looking up to? They don't have to be stars or elite players, either...just guys who you always respected and considered good guys.

I think Phillip Daniels and Renaldo Wynn qualify from the Skins :yes:...also Larry Fitzgerald seems like a truly stand-up guy and one helluva player.

[bubba9497]

Jason Campbell, obvious reasons

Chris Samuels

dude gave away a home to a needy single mother

Peyton Manning, Jason Witten, London Fletcher, Matt Birk, off the top of my head

[GhostofSparta]

Drew Brees is the player that springs to my mind.

[Chachie]

Terrell Owens, Chad Johnson,... oh wait. I thought it said "A__ hats."


I'm checking young players here. I'll go with Aaron Rodgers for the way he dealt with the whole Favre situation. Adrian Peterson is pretty classy.

[Chachie]

Drew Brees is the player that springs to my mind.



Good one. Class act and bad mofo.

[OWUeagleMD]

Never met any NFL players. How should I know?

[Califan007]

Chris Samuels

dude gave away a home to a needy single mother

Peyton Manning, Jason Witten, London Fletcher, Matt Birk, off the top of my head

Chris Samuels, definitely :yes:...and definitely London Fletcher. I almost put Witten, but something about his response to Cooley's videos made me stop lol :D...

If James Thrash had not retired, he would be the poster boy of "Class Acts" in the NFL.

[GhostofSparta]

Never met any NFL players. How should I know?
Well to be fair, you are an Eagle fan, so it's not like you have a lot to choose from there...

[Chachie]

Well to be fair, you are an Eagle fan, so it's not like you have a lot to choose from there...



ZZZziiiiing!!!

[Califan007]

Good one. Class act and bad mofo.

:yes: Completely agree...

Now watch someone come on here and relate a story about Brees being arrogant or cussing out a fan or something lol...

[Lombardi's_kid_brother]

Do you know who would have topped this list in 1978?

OJ Simpson.

So, let's not pretend we have any earthly idea what any of these guys are like in their private lives.

Drew Brees seems like an obvious choice. But then you start to read about his mother - who just passed away and who is rather infamous in Houston right now - and you start to wonder what demons lie beneath the surface with that dude.

[Califan007]

Do you know who would have topped this list in 1978?

OJ Simpson.

So, let's not pretend we have any earthly idea what any of these guys are like in their private lives.

Yes, because let's pretend as if the phrase "exceptions to the rule" has never been said before.

[OWUeagleMD]

So, let's not pretend we have any earthly idea what any of these guys are like in their private lives.

Precisely.

It's funny that "we don't know anything about these guys" became the most tired phrase in the sports world after McNair died, and here we are having this conversation a mere 36 days later.

[OWUeagleMD]

Yes, because let's pretend as if the phrase "exceptions to the rule" has never been said before.

How do you evaluate the class of people when you're only aware of their public persona? Maybe Drew Brees is verbally abusive to his children, or Chris Samuels pressured a girlfriend into getting an abortion she didn't want when he was in college.

What is with the desire to pretend that we know anything about people because we enjoy watching them play sports?

Isn't it easier, smarter, and more logical to simply disregard their personal lives and accept that we will never know what goes on when the cameras go away?

[GhostofSparta]

Do you know who would have topped this list in 1978?

OJ Simpson.

So, let's not pretend we have any earthly idea what any of these guys are like in their private lives.
:rolleyes:Thanks Captain Buzzkill. We wouldn't want to start a thread that's not about the Redskins line or injuries everywhere, now would we.

[Califan007]

Precisely.

It's funny that "we don't know anything about these guys" became the most tired phrase in the sports world after McNair died, and here we are having this conversation a mere 36 days later.

And I hate how we pretend that we NEVER reach any conclusions about people or have any perceptions on people's overall character. These are our perceptions of players, we're not passing judgement as to whether or not they'll get into Heaven lol.

If NO player has ever come across to you as if they're a classy, stand up individual, then fine...but stop trying to lecture those of us who have felt as if certain players are worthy of praise for how they've lead their public lives. The fact that we one day might end up being proven wrong is one million percent irrelevant.

[ljs]

Vick is helping out youth in the inner city...that's classy eh?

[bubba9497]

:yes: Completely agree...

Now watch someone come on here and relate a story about Brees being arrogant or cussing out a fan or something lol...


well his mother who recently passed away... was some piece of work I hear

[Califan007]

How do you evaluate the class of people when you're only aware of their public persona? Maybe Drew Brees is verbally abusive to his children, or Chris Samuels pressured a girlfriend into getting an abortion she didn't want when he was in college.
Once again, we're not determining who gets into heaven, here...we're just conveying our perceptions of players in the NFL who we feel are classy, who handle themselves in a mature manner. We don't need to be perfect in our assessments in order to give them. Nobody is taking our list and hiring or firing anyone based on it. Nobody is being taken into court based on what we say here. Geezus.



What is with the desire to pretend that we know anything about people because we enjoy watching them play sports?
I highly doubt anyone who is mentioned is ONLY mentioned because they caught a TD pass lol...believe it or not, some of us actually follow players beyond their on-field accomplishments. We also read about how players, coaches, family, friends both present and past describe them...they spend 10 years or more in the public spotlight, and NOTHING negative comes out about them...they handle public adversity with dignity and seem to have a consistent manner. We hear about how they "give back" to the community or any number of other things that stand out in our minds as "this guy is one of the good ones"...and we don't mind saying so.

Then again, using your logic, I guess we shouldn't say anything good about anyone, even our family, our parents, our spouses...because, hey, how do WE know that they're not living a secret life somewhere dealing coke to kids? :doh:



Isn't it easier, smarter, and more logical to simply disregard their personal lives and accept that we will never know what goes on when the cameras go away?

Not for this thead, it isn't lol...the real question is, why do YOU have such animosity towards any of us wanting to call a player "classy"? What's it to you if we do?

[bubba9497]

Vick is helping out youth in the inner city...that's classy eh?

training dogs isn't he?





okay that wasn't nice :(

[Califan007]

Vick is helping out youth in the inner city...that's classy eh?

The act is classy...the man, eh...lol

[OWUeagleMD]

And I hate how we pretend that we NEVER reach any conclusions about people or have any perceptions on people's overall character. These are our perceptions of players, we're not passing judgement as to whether or not they'll get into Heaven lol.

If NO player has ever come across to you as if they're a classy, stand up individual, then fine...but stop trying to lecture those of us who have felt as if certain players are worthy of praise for how they've lead their public lives. The fact that we one day might end up being proven wrong is one million percent irrelevant.

Personally, I don't like discussing things I know nothing about. It's something I've been taught to believe was highly embarrassing. To me, class is something that cannot be judged through a television screen.

[GhostofSparta]

well his mother who recently passed away... was some piece of work I hear
That may be, but it's not really fair to judge the man based on his mother. In fact if someone is a decent person in spite of their parents, that actually says more about their character (in a positive way), doesn't it?

[Califan007]

Personally, I don't like discussing things I know nothing about. It's something I've been taught to believe was highly embarrassing. To me, class is something that cannot be judged through a television screen.

Ok, so at least you admit that you don't know class when you see it so you can't discuss it lol :cool:..

[bubba9497]

in the age of the Internet.... , info about people in the public eye are quite easy to find and while you get a second hand account of the story... you read somethings over and over again from different sources you usually can think they are true.

are there two faced people... yep... but their insincerity usually starts showing after awhile

[OWUeagleMD]

What's it to you if we do?

What's it to you if I point out that it's a fool's exercise?

Isn't a discussion board a forum for opinions? Or did you intend this to be a thread for those who agree with your premise and no one else?

[bubba9497]

That may be, but it's not really fair to judge the man based on his mother. In fact if someone is a decent person in spite of their parents, that actually says more about their character (in a positive way), doesn't it?


I was joking ;)

[Califan007]

And for the record, "Classy" does not equal "Perfect". You can be a classy individual and still have flaws.

[OWUeagleMD]

The act is classy...the man, eh...lol

Raffy Palmeiro always struck me as a supremely classy individual. So I agree, I cannot accurately recognize class through the media. That I admit freely.

But I also pay close attention to the world of sports, and the realization that we're often wrong about how we classify individuals is hardly a rarity.

[Califan007]

What's it to you if I point out that it's a fool's exercise?

Isn't a discussion board a forum for opinions? Or did you intend this to be a thread for those who agree with your premise and no one else?

I'm trying to find out why you're so insistent on telling us we shouldn't...and if naming certain players as classy is a "fool's exercise", then what do you call trying to convince us that we shouldn't be? ;)

[GhostofSparta]

I was joking ;)
I figured you were bubba, but OWU pretty much said the same thing a few posts above, and he seems quite serious about it. So I figured I'd illustrate a point using your much more succint post.

[OWUeagleMD]

And for the record, "Classy" does not equal "Perfect". You can be a classy individual and still have flaws.

By all means, therefore making it equally likely that someone most sports fans deem "classless" because of widely known flaws is actually a pretty classy, straight-up guy. It cuts both ways.

There's a pretty hefty filter between us and them. That's all.

[bubba9497]

And for the record, "Classy" does not equal "Perfect". You can be a classy individual and still have flaws.


like me

I'm a great guy, but have gas

so I am a gassy classy guy :D

[OWUeagleMD]

I'm trying to find out why you're so insistent on telling us we shouldn't...and if naming certain players as classy is a "fool's exercise", then what do you call trying to convince us that we shouldn't be? ;)

An absolute fool's exercise. My presence on this site is that and a waste of time. But every time I open an internet browser, I somehow end up here anyway.

[Califan007]

Raffy Palmeiro always struck me as a supremely classy individual. So I agree, I cannot accurately recognize class through the media. That I admit freely.

But I also pay close attention to the world of sports, and the realization that we're often wrong about how we classify individuals is hardly a rarity.

Here's the thing: I'm not "often wrong".

I don't idolize players, nor do I give them greater qualities than they deserve based on their production on the field. And when I am wrong, I don't let it cloud my vision of all the other people who truly deserve to be seen as classy. I also don't require a perfect character in order to view someone as classy or as responsible, mature or a stand-up person. Because of these things I never fear viewing a public figure as "classy" or "stand up" individual, nor do I keep myself from praising them.

That's what this thread is for...for people like me who find themselves thinking highly of certain NFL players based on whatever criteria they choose to use, and want to give them some sort of acknowledgement. If you want to view that as "foolish", be my guest. But you can do that without telling us over and over again and pretty much ruining the intent of this thread inthe process.

[Califan007]

like me

I'm a great guy, but have gas

so I am a gassy classy guy :D

:rotflmao:

I snore, but it's a classy snore :thumbsup:

[Califan007]

By all means, therefore making it equally likely that someone most sports fans deem "classless" because of widely known flaws is actually a pretty classy, straight-up guy. It cuts both ways.

There's a pretty hefty filter between us and them. That's all.

"Classy" includes how you carry yourself and what positive qualities you convey. Someone like T.O., for example, would not be "classy" in my eyes for that very reason. He carries himself in an arrogant manner and conveys all sorts of narcissistic values. He might give to charities like mad and visit sick kids in hospitals in his time off, but to me anyone who craves the spotlight and attention, refers to himself in the 3rd person, and tries to find ways to humiliate his competition automatically is disqualifed from being classy, no matter what else they do in their lives.

[OWUeagleMD]

Here's the thing: I'm not "often wrong".

I don't idolize players, nor do I give them greater qualities than they deserve based on their production on the field. And when I am wrong, I don't let it cloud my vision of all the other people who truly deserve to be seen as classy. I also don't require a perfect character in order to view someone as classy or as responsible, mature or a stand-up person. Because of these things I never fear viewing a public figure as "classy" or "stand up" individual, nor do I keep myself from praising them.

That's what this thread is for...for people like me who find themselves thinking highly of certain NFL players based on whatever criteria they choose to use, and want to give them some sort of acknowledgement. If you want to view that as "foolish", be my guest. But you can do that without telling us over and over again and pretty much ruining the intent of this thread inthe process.

Arguments take two sides, my man. I would have been happy to say my piece back in page one and step away. Then you engaged me, so I stayed to finish the conversation. No need to play the victim. We disagreed on a point and went back and forth.

Sorry your thread didn't work out the way you wanted. Feel free to go back to your celebrity schtumping.

[Big Blue Joe]

"Classy" includes how you carry yourself and what positive qualities you convey. Someone like T.O., for example, would not be "classy" in my eyes for that very reason. He carries himself in an arrogant manner and conveys all sorts of narcissistic values. He might give to charities like mad and visit sick kids in hospitals in his time off, but to me anyone who craves the spotlight and attention, refers to himself in the 3rd person, and tries to find ways to humiliate his competition automatically is disqualifed from being classy, no matter what else they do in their lives.Really? So if he donated a part of his liver to a dying kid, you would sitll consider him classless because he excessively celebrates after a TD?

[Califan007]

Arguments take two sides, my man. I would have been happy to say my piece back in page one and step away. Then you engaged me, so I stayed to finish the conversation. No need to play the victim. We disagreed on a point and went back and forth.

Sorry your thread didn't work out the way you wanted. Feel free to go back to your celebrity schtumping.

Wrong. I didn't engage you...you engaged me. I responded to Lombardi's_kid_brother, NOT you. He didn't respond to me...but you did.

No wonder you can't get the intent of this thread correct when you can't even remember who I was talking to lol :cool:

[Califan007]

Really? So if he donated a part of his liver to a dying kid, you would sitll consider him classless because he excessively celebrates after a TD?

1) Did I mention anything about T.O.'s TD celebrations?

2) I would consider the ACT classy...but the man performing the act would have to do a helluva lot more in his life for his entire being to be seen as classy. Just like I can consider people I feel to have good character straying from that and doing someting stupid...it's their entire body of work that I comment on, not isolated acts of "class" here and there.

[OWUeagleMD]

Wrong. I didn't engage you...you engaged me. I responded to Lombardi's_kid_brother, NOT you. He didn't respond to me...but you did.

No wonder you can't get the intent of this thread correct when you can't even remember who I was talking to lol :cool:

Yeah, well... (no comeback).

[Califan007]

Yeah, well... (no comeback).

:rotflmao: :cheers:

(and actually I responded to one of yoru posts after you engaged me, so it might be a mutual thing lol)

[schmitty_199]

Well in general we only hear about the ones who get an "after school special" type thing made about them from the media. But Kurt Warners definetly one to add to the list.

[stickyshooZ]

I don't personally know any of them, but I can only go off of what I see on the field and off the field (which is extremely limited compared to the former).

Tedy Bruschi
Kurt Warner
P. Manning
Adrian Wilson (the guy stayed with a bum franchise before they started getting good even when he had a chance to go into free agency...respect)

[Califan007]

Well in general we only hear about the ones who get an "after school special" type thing made about them from the media. But Kurt Warners definetly one to add to the list.

Is Warner "classy" in your eyes?...Great story, no doubt, and great player...but I think Brunell is classier than Warner.

[stickyshooZ]

Is Warner "classy" in your eyes?...Great story, no doubt, and great player...but I think Brunell is classier than Warner.
What are you using to measure and compare their 'classiness'?

And I agree that Brunell is a class act.

[Califan007]

What are you using to measure and compare their 'classiness'?

And I agree that Brunell is a class act.

Actually, to be honest, I might have been thinking of his wife lol...for awhile there her public actions seemed more tacky than classy.

[BigRay]

Adrian Peterson

Roy Williams (safety) *ducking* really he is a classy guy had the pleasure meeting him very impressed with him.

Warrick Dunn

Renaldo Wynn

Todd Heap... Real nice guy despite the fact he play for the Ravens ( I think I'll go and puke now)

[GhostofSparta]

Roy Williams (safety) *ducking* really he is a classy guy had the pleasure meeting him very impressed with him.
Well nobody said they had to be good just classy. But it is a list of current players, is Roy "Burnt Toast" Williams actually on a roster somewhere?

[Califan007]

Roy Williams (safety) *ducking* really he is a classy guy had the pleasure meeting him very impressed with him.


There have actually been a lot of Skins fans who have said Roy Williams ssems like a truly good guy and class act, but 1) he plays for the Cowboys lol, and 2) that damn horse collar takedown he loves using.

[Califan007]

Well nobody said they had to be good just classy. But it is a list of current players, is Roy "Burnt Toast" Williams actually on a roster somewhere?

Bengals, I think...

[GhostofSparta]

Bengals, I think...
According to foxsports.com he is on the Bengals

http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/player?categoryId=97118

Those are some awesome stats he put up last season....

But back on topic, I'd say that Richie Incognito guy is one class act.:evilg:

[BigRay]

Well nobody said they had to be good just classy. But it is a list of current players, is Roy "Burnt Toast" Williams actually on a roster somewhere?


He sure is he signed with the Bengals during the off season.

[BigRay]

There have actually been a lot of Skins fans who have said Roy Williams ssems like a truly good guy and class act, but 1) he plays for the Cowboys lol, and 2) that damn horse collar takedown he loves using.


LOL yeah man I'm not going to hold that against him he played for the Cowboys but he is a good guy very easy to approach.

[bubba9497]

But back on topic, I'd say that Richie Incognito guy is one big ass act.:evilg:

fixed it

[Mr. Jones]

Most of the people I can think of have already been mentioned, Warrick Dunn, Jason Witten, Roy Williams. I'm sure there are many more though. Teddy Bruschi is an interesting one because I've heard wilding varying reports on him. My roommate's (much older) mother had an affair with him while he was at the U of A and reported that he's a real arrogant jerk, though that could just be jilted ex.
There are probably tons more that we don't hear about though because helping single mothers get houses isn't as likely to end up in the news as making it rain.

[darklight1216]

Kurt Warner, Paul Kruger, Peyton Manning, Matt Birk, London Fletcher (I've heard alot of good things about him from people I know who have met him) Ed Reed, Kyle Boller (sort of), Jason Campbell and even... Troy Polamalu.

[Santana_Fan]

Roy Williams (safety) *ducking* really he is a classy guy had the pleasure meeting him very impressed with him.

I agree. Roy Williams might not be a great player, but he seems to be a real classy dude. I will always remember how he signaled the facemask penalty on the sideline, when ST got facemasked in the Dallas game in 06. That always sticks out to me for some reason. He could have easily been one of the opposing players to act as if it didn't happen (although the replay did clearly show it).

[Califan007]

I agree. Roy Williams might not be a great player, but he seems to be a real classy dude. I will always remember how he signaled the facemask penalty on the sideline, when ST got facemasked in the Dallas game in 06. That always sticks out to me for some reason. He could have easily been one of the opposing players to act as if it didn't happen (although the replay did clearly show it).

Yeah, he didn't deny the facemask penalty in that game...I remember the shot of him on the sideline doing the facemask motion, seemed like he was accepting the reality instead of throwing a tantrum. It wasn't on HIM, of course lol...maybe he acts differently if it was :D

[schmitty_199]

Is Warner "classy" in your eyes?...Great story, no doubt, and great player...but I think Brunell is classier than Warner.

I grew up very close to where Kurt Warner did, and he really does a lot for the community with charity work, scholarships ect which won him the Walter Payton Man of the Year award last year. So to sum it up.. yes Kurt Warners one of the classiest guys in the NFL imo. He's had a lot of ups and downs in his career and has always stayed positive and humble.

[Terence Newman 41]

Former Cowboy current Bengal Roy Williams

[ZIBBY28]

a few ravens are matt birk, dom. foxworth, todd heap, derrick mason, and ray rice

[Lombardi's_kid_brother]

Yes, because let's pretend as if the phrase "exceptions to the rule" has never been said before.

Eugene Robinson. Won a league award for "high moral character." Later that night, got arrested for trying to pick up a hooker.

Steve McNair. All around great family man. Wonderful with charities. Was murdered by his mistress, who clearly was the last in a long long line of mistresses.

I'm sure there are "good guys" in the league. I'm not going to pretend I know who they are.

[Lombardi's_kid_brother]

This thread would make a lot more sense if the question was "Which NFL players do the most charity work."

And the answer would likely be Derrick Brooks.

These are actions that we can measure.

[ACW]

Former coaches: Gibbs :obvious:
and Dungy.

[Lombardi's_kid_brother]

Former coaches: Gibbs :obvious:
and Dungy.

Does classy = Jesusy?

Do gay people get to vote on whether Dungy is classy?

The problem with this is twofold.

1. We all seem to have different definitions of "classy."

2. We have no idea if the people we are talking about meet those definitions.

So, before you answer, define "classy" for me.

Is it how you conduct yourself? Polished interviews. Well-dressed. Expressions of humility.

Is it the acts in your private life? Charities, etc.

Is it your religious conviction? I keep seeing Warner and Brunell mentioned. They are also among the most out-spoke Christians in the league.

Is it how you conduct yourself on the field? Off the field? Both?

[ACW]

Does classy = Jesusy?

Do gay people get to vote on whether Dungy is classy?:rubeyes: I know they're religious; Dungy's homophobic (I'm a straight pro-gay-rights Jew FWIW)?

[pjfootballer]

Drew Brees, Santana Moss, Adrian Peterson and Eli Manning are on NFL Network 24/7 with the United Way, so they qualify by default. So sick of those commercials really.

[darklight1216]

Drew Brees, Santana Moss, Adrian Peterson and Eli Manning are on NFL Network 24/7 with the United Way, so they qualify by default. So sick of those commercials really.
I was just thinking that! If I see one more crazy haired kid I'm gonna scream. :silly:

[ljs]

:rubeyes: I know they're religious; Dungy's homophobic (I'm a straight pro-gay-rights Jew FWIW)?

this peaked my curiosity...how do you get he is homophobic?

(I'm a gay pro-straight-rights Christian FWIW:silly:)

[TonyRomoProBowl]

Former Cowboy current Bengal Roy Williams

100% correct...dude has done some great things for poor inter city single moms and such......

[ACW]

this peaked my curiosity...how do you get he is homophobic?

(I'm a gay pro-straight-rights Christian FWIW:silly:)Ask LKB.

[Who Del]

I think class is one of the most tired and cliche phrases in all of sports.

I'm not interested in a role model. I want a ****ing championship.

[ACW]

I think class is one of the most tired and cliche phrases in all of sports.

I'm not interested in a role model. I want a ****ing championship.So then stop being an Eagles fan :D
:eaglesuck:eaglesuck:eaglesuck:eaglesuck:eaglesuck

[bubba9497]

I think class is one of the most tired and cliche phrases in all of sports.

I'm not interested in a role model. I want a ****ing championship.

in Philly you get neither ;)

[tr1]

I think class is one of the most tired and cliche phrases in all of sports.

I'm not interested in a role model. I want a ****ing championship.

So then stop being an Eagles fan :D
:eaglesuck:eaglesuck:eaglesuck:eaglesuck:eaglesuck

in Philly you get neither ;)

WD, you just got pummeled.

:rotflmao:

[ljs]

Ask LKB.
Dungy doesn't like LKB?:silly:

[Who Del]

WD, you just got pummeled.

:rotflmao:

I take it like a man. Its true. Role models or championships, I ain't got jack.

[bobbee1011]

I take it like a man. Its true. Role models or championships, I ain't got jack.

I agree with your original statement.