Top 5 position by position

[schmitty_199]

Think this could be a pretty good thread to tide us over til the weekends games, and could be cool to look back at the end of the season and see how much as changed.

Positions used- QB, RB, WR, TE, OT, OG, C, DT, DE, Hybrid 'backers(3-4 outside linebackers), ILB, OLB, CB, S.

Only do top 3 if you like, or only offense or defense ect.. but should be very interesting to see what some of you think for league wide rankings, since in the ATN its mostly NFC East all day every day.

[darklight1216]

QB: Brady, Manning, Warner, Rivers, Worthlessberger, (Darkhorses: Cutler, Brees)
RB: Peterson, Johnson, Slaton, MJD, Deangelo (Darkhorses: Tomlinson, Sproles, Rice)
S: Reed, Polamalu, Collins, Hope, Wilson
NT: Haynesworth, Rogers, Jones, Gregg, Wilfork

[ACW]

WR (in whatever order): Calvin Johnson; Andre Johnson; Moss (now that Tom's back); Fitz; I guess by stats either Steve Smith or Roddy White.

TE: Gonzalez; Witten; Clark; Coooooooooooooley

[schmitty_199]

QB-
Tom Brady- 3 SBs. 50 TDs in his last full season. Enough Said.
Peyton Manning
Drew Brees
Phillip Rivers- Had a fantastic 08 season passing with LT and Gates banged up.
Big Ben(So clutch in the playoffs, have to give it to him especially for dealing with that terrible pass blocking last season)

RB-
1.Adrian Peterson
2.DeAngelo Williams-Yes im serious.. Williams was ridiculously good last season. Expect to get some major crap for this one.
3.Clinton Portis- Consistently a tough productive runner year in and year out.
4. Michael Turner- Had a brilliant season carrying the Falcons last year in his first as a starter.
5. Steven Jackson- Seems to always be banged up but when he's healthy, yeah, he's that good.
(Chris Johnson, Brian Westbrook, sorry but you just missed)

WR-
1. Larry Fitzgerald- The playoffs last season about sums it up.
2. Andre Johnson- When healthy is nearly unstoppable despite having up and down QBing.
3. Steve Smith- Think you can double the little guy and stop him? Better make it 3.. or he'll burn you all day long. Plays with fire, which sometimes turns into temper tantrums though..
4. Calvin Johnson- Had a fantastic 2nd season despite seemingly playing with a new crappy QB every couple weeks.
5. Brandon Marshall- He's a punk, he'll probably be suspended, but the dude can play some football.. is deadly in run after the catch.

TE-
1. Tony Gonzalez- The throne is his until he stops dominating like he did in 08.
2. Jason Witten- Great blocker, excellent passing option, tough as nails and durable. Gotta love him.
3. Antonio Gates- Probably more talented then Witten, but cant seem to stay healthy. That knocks him down a spot.
4. Chris Cooley- Very similair to Witten.. very tough at running after the catch.
5. Owen Daniels-Really excelled as a receiver last season.

OT-
1. Joe Thomas- Has been a beast for Cleveland.
2. Chris Samuels- Consistency.
3. Ryan Clady- Was dominant as a rookie.
4. Michael Roos- Tough run blocker, big part of titans success.
5. Walter Jones- Sorry Walter Jones, but you are no longer the best tackle in the game. Age is coming.

OG-
1. Steve Hutchinson-Watch an AP highlight film. Then watch whose leading him up the hole.
2. Eric Steinbach- Another beastly Browns lineman.. now why cant they seem to win any games!?
3. Shawn Andrews- Road grader of a run blocker.
4. Kris Dielman
5. Logan Mankins(With Leonard Davis and Chris Snee closely behind)

C- TBA Later ;)

[darklight1216]

Quick question: are these supposed to be fantasy type rankings (ie yards, yards, yards) or are we discussing who we think is best based on other factors?

[Rskins91]

I'll go ahead and subject my list to the scrutiny of the masses. =P

QB
1.) Peyton Manning
2.) Tom Brady
3.) Drew Brees
4.) Phillip Rivers
5.) Ben Roethlisberger

RB
1.) Adrian Peterson
2.) Matt Forte
3.) Brian Westbrook
4.) Clinton Portis
5.) LaDainian Tomlinson

WR
1.) Larry Fitzgerald
2.) Andre Johnson
3.) Reggie Wayne
4.) Randy Moss
5.) Calvin Johnson

TE
1.) Tony Gonzalez
2.) Jason Witten
3.) Antonio Gates
4.) Chris Cooley
5.) Dallas Clark

OT
1.) Joe Thomas
2.) Ryan Clady
3.) Jake Long
4.) Bryant McKinnie
5.) Chris Samuels

OG
1.) Alan Faneca
2.) Steve Hutchinson
3.) Shawn Andrews (when healthy)
4.) Logan Mankins
5.) Chris Snee

C
1.) Matt Birk
2.) Jeff Saturday
3.) Kevin Mawae
4.) Dan Koppen
5.) Shawn O'Hara

DT
1.) Albert Haynesworth
2.) Kevin Williams
3.) Jay Ratliff
4.) Haloti Ngata
5.) Casey Hampton

DE
1.) Julius Peppers
2.) Jared Allen
3.) Mario Williams
4.) Justin Tuck
5.) Osi Umenyoria

Hybrid Linebackers
1.) DeMarcus Ware
2.) Terrell Suggs
3.) Shawne Merriman
4.) James Harrison
5.) Joey Porter

ILB
1.) Patrick Willis
2.) Jon Beason
3.) Ray Lewis
4.) London Fletcher
5.) Paul Posluszny

OLB (Very skewed with hybrid backers in their own catagory)
1.) Julian Peterson
2.) Lance Briggs
3.) Kamerion Wimbley
4.) Rocky McIntosh
5.) Derrick Brooks

CB
1.) Nnamdi Asomugha
2.) Champ Bailey
3.) Asante Samuel
4.) Corteland Finnegann
5.) Darrelle Revis

S
1.) Ed Reed
2.) Troy Polamalu
3.) Adrian Wilson
4.) LaRon Landry
5.) Bob Sanders

[GhostofSparta]

QB
1. Peyton Manning
2. Tom Brady
3. Drew Brees
4. Kurt Warner (it may be his WRs, but I stand by it)
5. Carson Palmer (when healthy)

RB
1. Adrian Peterson
2. Michael Turner
3. Brian Westbrook (when healthy)
4. Clinton Portis
5. Matt Forte (up and comer)

WR
1. Larry Fitzgerald
2. Andre Johnson
3. Randy Moss
4. Calvin Johnson
5. Steve Smith (only because he's older is he below CJ)

TE
1. Tony Gonzalez
2. Jason Witten
3. Antonio Gates
4. Chris Cooley
5. Owen Daniels

OT
1. Joe Thomas
2. Ryan Clady
3. Bryant McKinnie
4. Jared Gaither
5. Chris Samuels

OG
1. Steve Hutchinson
2. Kris Dielman
3. Logan Mankins
4. Shawn Andrews
5. Chris Snee

C
1. Matt Birk
2. Jeff Saturday
3. Kevin Mawae
4. Dan Koppen
5. Shawn O'Hara

DT
1. Albert Haynesworth
2. Kevin Williams
3. Haloti Ngata
4. Casey Hampton
5. Jay Ratliff

DE
1. Julius Peppers
2. Mario Williams
3. Jared Allen
4. Osi Umenyoria
5. Justin Tuck

Hybrid Linebackers
1. DeMarcus Ware
2. Terrell Suggs
3. Shawne Merriman
4. James Harrison
5. Joey Porter

ILB
1. Patrick Willis
2. Jon Beason
3. London Fletcher (at this stage London is better than Ray)
4. Ray Lewis
5. D'Qwell Jackson

OLB: This gets tougher when you separate OLBs
1. Julian Peterson
2. Lance Briggs
3. DeMeco Ryans (unless he's a hybrid, I'm not sure I put him here)
4. Karlos Dansby
5. Rocky McIntosh

CB
1. Nnamdi Asomugha
2. Darrelle Revis
3. Dominque Foxworth
4. Carlos Rogers (Yes, even if he can't hold onto the ball)
5. Asante Samuel

S :(
1. Ed Reed
2. Troy Polamalu
3. LaRon Landry
4. Bob Sanders
5. Adrian Wilson

Well there's my list. Have at it.

[schmitty_199]

Yeah sorry about the whole hybid linebacker and OLB thing, but I really wanted to avoid that whole so and so cant cover so their not complete arguement.. So figured id just break it into 2 positions.

And to answer another question no I wasnt thinking fantasy rankings, just whose the top players for this season.

DE-
Jared Allen
Mario Williams
Julius Peppers
Justin Tuck
Richard Seymour(DT?)

DT-
Albert Haynesworth
Kevin Williams
Jay Ratliff
Tommie Harris
Haloti Ngata
Casey Hampton


Hybrid-
DeMarcus Ware
James Harrison
Joey Porter
Terrell Suggs
LaMarr Woodley

OLB-
Karlos Dansby
Thomas Davis
Demeco Ryans
Chad Greenway
Ernie Sims

ILB-
Patrick Willis
D'Qwell Jackson
Jon Beason
James Farrior
Barrett Rudd
Sorry Ray and LBF, predicting age starts to become a factor this season.

CB-
Nnamdi Asomugha
Darrell Revis
Cortland Finnegan
Rashean Mathis
Terrence Newman/Asante Samuel

S-
Ed Reed
Troy Pol
Adrian Wilson
Nick Collins
Michael Griffin
Atogwe
Bob Sanders when healthy is probably in the top 3.. but seems like the dude can NEVER play. Just cant put a guy whose played 25 games the last 3 years over the rest of this outstanding safteys.

[eagleskins]

QB
1. Tom Brady
2. Drew Brees
3. Peyton Manning
4. Ben Rothlisberger
5. Phillip Rivers

DE
1. Jared Allen
2. Julius Peppers
3. Aarron Kampman
4. Justin Tuck
5. Mario Williams

ILB
1. Brian Urlacher
2. Patrick Willis
3. Jon Beason
4. Paul Pozlusny
5. London Fletcher.

[darklight1216]

And to answer another question no I wasnt thinking fantasy rankings, just whose the top players for this season.

Okay, well that changes my rankings...

[CPismyhero]

hmm here's my list. and as for the OLB/DE thing, I just made a separate list for Edge Rushers

QB
1.) Peyton Manning
2.) Tom Brady
3.) Drew Brees
4.) Phillip Rivers
5.) Jay Cutler (had nice pass protection and targets, but still overcame his terrible, terrible defense)

RB
1.) Adrian Peterson
2.) LaDainian Tomlinson (Still elite, unless he proves everyone wrong this year)
3.) Clinton Portis
4.) Michael Turner
5.) Matt Forte (if he can prove that last year was no fluke, then he'll go up)

WR
1.) Larry Fitzgerald
2.) Andre Johnson
3.) Reggie Wayne
4.) Steve Smith
5.) Calvin Johnson

TE
1.) Tony Gonzalez
2.) Antonio Gates
3.) Jason Witten
4.) Chris Cooley
5.) Owen Daniels


OT
1.) Joe Thomas
2.) Bryant MicKinnie
3.) Michael Roos
4.) Chris Samuels
5.) Jake Long

OG
1.) Steve Hutchinson
2.) Alan Faneca
3.) Chris Snee
4.) Eric Steinbach
5.) Shawn Andrews

C
1.) Jeff Saturday
2.) Kevin Mawae
3.) Matt Birk
4.) Eric Mangold
5.) Shawn O'Hara

DT
1.) Albert Haynesworth
2.) Kevin Williams
3.) Haloti Ngata
4.) Casey Hampton
5.) Tommie Harris

Edge Rushers
1.) DeMarcus Ware
2.) Shawne Merriman
3.) Mario Williams
4.) Osi Umenyoria
5.) James Harrison

ILB
1.) Patrick Willis
2.) Ray Lewis
3.) Jonathan Vilma
4.) London Fletcher
5.) Lofa Tatupu

OLB (I suppose this category is a bit if-y)
1.) DeMeco Ryans
2.) Julian Peterson
3.) Keith Bulluck
4.) Ernie Sims
5.) Karlos Dansby

CB
1.) Nnamdi Asomugha
2.) Champ Bailey
3.) Asante Samuel
4.) Charles Woodson
5.) Rashean Mathis

S
1.) Ed Reed
2.) Troy Polamalu
3.) LaRon Landry
4.) Bob Sanders
5.) Adrian Wilson

[LeftCoast Skinz FAN]

Ok here it goes. I may be wrong about some of the SAM LBs and OLBs, I'm not sure if I have them all right but here is my list.

QBs:

1. Tom Brady
2. Payton Manning
3. Drew Brees
4. Jay Cutler
5. Matt Ryan

RBs:

1. Adrian Peterson
2. Brian Westbrook
3. Steve Slaton
4. Clinton Portis
5. Chris Johnson

FBs:

1. Lorenzo Neal
2. Mike Sellers
3. LaRon McClain
4. Madison Hedgecock
5. Brad Hoover

WRs:

1. Larry Fitzgerald
2. Andre Johnson
3. Calvin Johnson
4. Randy Moss
5. DeSean Jackson/Eddie Royal

TEs:

1. Tony Romo's girlfriend.....I mean boyfriend....or ah Jason Witten
2. Dallas Clark
3. Antonio Gates
4. Chris Cooley
5. Greg Olsen

DEs:

1. Julius Peppers
2. Justin Tuck
3. Osi Umenyiora
4. Dwight Freeney
5. Trent Cole

DTs:

1. Albert Haynesworth
2. Jamal Williams
3. Darnell Docket
4. Shaun Rogers
5. Kevin Williams

Hybrid/SAM

1. Terrell Suggs
2. James Harrison
3. DeMarcus Ware
4. Shawne Merrimen
5. Mathias Kiwanuka

MLB:

1. Ray Lewis
2. Patrick Willis
3. London Fletcher-Baker
4. Lofa Tatupu
5. Brian Urlacher

OLB:

1. Karlos Dansby
2. DJ Williams
3. Jon Beason
4. Shaun Phillips
5. Lance Briggs

CBs:

1. Champ Bailey
2. DeAngelo Hall
3. Al Harris
4. Nnamdi Asomugha
5. Asante Samuel

S:

1. Ed Reed
2. Troy Palamalu
3. Bob Sanders
4. Brian Dawkins
5. Oshimogho Atogwe

K:

1. Neil Rackers
2. Stephen Gostkowski
3. Rob Bironas

KR/PR:

1. Devin Hester
2. Darren Sproles
3. Joshua Cribbs
4. Jerious Norwood
5. Leon Washington

[MattFancy]

I'll just do a few of the big ones.

QBs
1. Brady
2. Manning
3. Brees
4. Roethlisberger
5. Warner

RBs
1. Peterson
2. Tomlinson
3. Forte
4. Portis
5. Jones-Drew

TEs
1. Gonzalez
2. Gates
3. Cooley
4. Witten
5. Daniels

WRs
1. Fitzgerald
2. A.Johnson
3. R.Moss
4. Wayne
5. Boldin

OL
1. Hutchinson
2. Faneca
3. J.Thomas
4. Samuels
5. Birk

LBs
1. Willis
2. Ware
3. Urlacher
4. Lewis
5. Fletcher

DL
1. Haynesworth
2. Umenyora
3. Williams Wall
5. M.Williams

Safeties
1. Reed
2. Polamalu
3. Wilson
4. Sanders
5. Atogwe

CBs
1. Asamougha
2. Samuel
3. Bailey
4. Mathis
5. Harris

[elkabong82]

*Not considering injury, rankings not necessarily in order

QB: Brady, Peyton Manning, Brees, Rivers, Palmer (when healthy)

RB: LT, AP, CP, Westbrook, Jones-Drew

WR: Fitz, Andre Johnson, Brandon Marshall, TO, Randy Moss

TE: Gonzalez, Gates, Witten, Cooley, Dallas Clark

OL: Agree w/ what schmitty 199 put

DE: Jared Allen, Osi, Kerney, Mario Williams, Cole

DT: Haynesworth, Ngata, Robbins, Hampton, K. Williams

OLB: Merriman, DJ Williams, Harrison, Suggs, Peterson

MLB: Urlacher, Ray Lewis, Werewolves of London, Willis, tie for 5th (Tatupu, Beason, Farrior, etc.)

CB: Asomougha, Cortland Finnegan, Asante, D. Hall, Winfield

S: Reed, Polamalu, Bob Sanders, A. Wilson, Landry

K: Bironas, Josh Brown, Vinateiri, Neil Rackers, Akers

** I'm sure I missed a couple, but these were the guys I that came to mind and stood out among the rest

[schmitty_199]

Left a few comments in blue..



1. Tom Brady
2. Payton Manning
3. Drew Brees
4. Jay Cutler
5. Matt Ryan

Matt Ryan over Big Ben and Rivers? He was very impressive as a rookie, but that seems a little overhype!


FBs:

1. Lorenzo Neal
2. Mike Sellers
3. LaRon McClain
4. Madison Hedgecock
5. Brad Hoover

Didnt Neal get cut from the Chargers because they thought he was out of gas?

WRs:

1. Larry Fitzgerald
2. Andre Johnson
3. Calvin Johnson
4. Randy Moss
5. DeSean Jackson/Eddie Royal

Jackson and Royal over Steve Smith.. both very talented, but seems bold!