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Papabear
September-21st-2009, 04:42 PM
ASHBURN, Va. (AP) - Washington Redskins rookie linebacker Robert Henson has apologized for calling the team's fans "dim wits" on his Twitter feed
He says Monday he updated his Twitter and Facebook accounts to apologize "not because I'm scared, but just because it was the right thing to do."
Henson, a sixth-round draft pick from TCU, has been inactive for both games this season.
Home fans booed the Redskins often Sunday during a 9-7 victory over the St. Louis Rams. Afterward, Henson tweeted: "All you fake half hearted Skins fan can .. I won't go there but I dislike you very strongly, don't come to Fed Ex to boo dim wits!!" Henson also tweeted: "The question is who are you to say you know what's best for the team and you work 9 to 5 at Mcdonalds."
http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/10105188/Redskins-rookie-apologizes-for-'dim-wits'-tweet
I don't need anymore reason to boo, but this sure wants to make me start again.
authentic
September-21st-2009, 04:45 PM
I'm all for forgiveness, but i'm not sure how he's going to live this down. One thing you don't do is verbally attack your own fans...Big, big, no no.
NewCliche21
September-21st-2009, 04:47 PM
What an idiot.
Sue your fans, disappoint your fans, and insult your fans.
Great job, Redskins!
Supreme Wu
September-21st-2009, 04:47 PM
thanks for qualifying that apology you dumb peice of benchriding S
santana_4_prez
September-21st-2009, 04:47 PM
There is nothing wrong with working at McDonald's (I don't). But, some people actually have to work for a living, and weren't blessed with athletic ability which allows certain people to play a sport (or stand on the sidelines, without dressing) for a living. What an *******.
CPAllTheWay012
September-21st-2009, 04:48 PM
I find it funny things like this get blown out of proportion. It's not a big deal. Robert Henson just trying to defend the team.
InsaneBoost
September-21st-2009, 04:51 PM
"not because I'm scared,"
What in the flying **** is that suppose to mean?
zoony
September-21st-2009, 04:51 PM
"not because I'm scared"
The fact that he has to preface his apology with these words tells you what kind of character we're dealing with here. Good riddance, I hope you're out of the league soon, and working at McDonald's. Criminal Justice Major at TCU, probably about all your qualified for. :)
SkinFanZim
September-21st-2009, 04:54 PM
Robert who? Never heard of him. If not for this, probably never would have either.
IrepDC
September-21st-2009, 04:54 PM
There is nothing wrong with working at McDonald's (I don't). But, some people actually have to work for a living, and weren't blessed with athletic ability which allows certain people to play a sport (or stand on the sidelines, without dressing) for a living. What an *******.
Being a proffesional athlete is NOT easy. I have multiple former teammates who are in the league, and these are guys that have been dedicated and made sacrifices their entire lives to get to where they are. It looks easy when they are out there on Sunday, but we don't see them up at 6 am every morning running and lifting. Or missing those parties back in high school because they had a game the next day. Or pushing that cheese burger aside for something more healthy. Yeah they're paid well but that pay comes from a lifetime of work. Sorry, I just dislike when fans make statements like those.
zoony
September-21st-2009, 05:01 PM
Being a proffesional athlete is NOT easy. I have multiple former teammates who are in the league, and these are guys that have been dedicated and made sacrifices their entire lives to get to where they are. It looks easy when they are out there on Sunday, but we don't see them up at 6 am every morning running and lifting. Or missing those parties back in high school because they had a game the next day. Or pushing that cheese burger aside for something more healthy. Yeah they're paid well but that pay comes from a lifetime of work. Sorry, I just dislike when fans make statements like those.
In many cases this is true. In many more it is simply not.
I remember having an off-the record discussion with a member of the media (who you all know but I'll keep his name off the board) who has spent a very long time covering the team and the NFL very closely. I asked him something along the lines of what he sees that others don't... and his response?
- that so many NFL players are nothing more than knuckleheads who've effectively won a genetic lottery. They have no redeeming qualities whatsoever other than they know how to play football. Yet millions hold them up as heroes.
I can see why he felt this way. Now in some cases, I think you're right. Look at a guy like Romanowski who will probably die in the next few years because of what he subjected his body to.
But not everyone is that way. I have a friend who played at UT for 4 years on the Oline. He told me that when Jamaal Lewis was a freshman at UT the coaches put him on a weight program. In just one semester he bulked up so much that the coaches took him off the weights, and for the entire rest of his collegiate career he was forbidden from lifting weights because he packed on so much muscle and he lost his speed. Jamal Lewis = genetic freak.
Then the reports about how Chris Samuels never hoisted a dumbell until he got into the league. Or how Clinton Portis never lifted weights until last offseason, etc. I've stood next to Clinton Portis. His neck and biceps are just not natural, lol. And without lifting weights :doh:
I'm the first one to say that players are worth what they're paid, but let's not pretend that it's hard work for so many of them. The biggest talent the vast majority of them had is being born.
.......
GaryGreenMonk
September-21st-2009, 05:01 PM
Being a proffesional athlete is NOT easy. I have multiple former teammates who are in the league, and these are guys that have been dedicated and made sacrifices their entire lives to get to where they are. It looks easy when they are out there on Sunday, but we don't see them up at 6 am every morning running and lifting. Or missing those parties back in high school because they had a game the next day. Or pushing that cheese burger aside for something more healthy. Yeah they're paid well but that pay comes from a lifetime of work. Sorry, I just dislike when fans make statements like those.
says the 21 year old. get back to me after you've worked in an office for 10 years.
:rolleyes:
Koolblue13
September-21st-2009, 05:07 PM
Is anybody actually more surprised that a player who was booed by his own fans, was upset about it. than the fact that people actually booed their own team after a win?
You people fail.
zoony
September-21st-2009, 05:08 PM
Is anybody actually more surprised that a player who was booed by his own fans, was upset about it. than the fact that people actually booed their own team after a win?
You people fail.
I think it was the McDonald's comment that rubbed most folks poorly. So for that, you fail. :)
BigMike21
September-21st-2009, 05:09 PM
I think it was the McDonald's comment that rubbed most folks poorly. So for that, you fail. :)
No doubt, that was the tweet that broke the camel's back on this one.
Koolblue13
September-21st-2009, 05:12 PM
I think it was the McDonald's comment that rubbed most folks poorly. So for that, you fail. :)
I understand exactly what he meant by that. It's a reference to a generic work place. Could have said Walmart or Exxon.
He was still right.
I wasn't happy with how we won, but I sure didn't boo the team I love.
BigMike21
September-21st-2009, 05:14 PM
I understand exactly what he meant by that. It's a reference to a generic work place. Could have said Walmart or Exxon.
He was still right.
I wasn't happy with how we won, but I sure didn't boo the team I love.
#1 Yeah we know what he meant by generic work place, and he didn't mean nice.
#2 No, he emphatically was NOT right
#3 You aren't better than those of us who did. Difference of opinions.
NewCliche21
September-21st-2009, 05:16 PM
Is anybody actually more surprised that a player who was booed by his own fans, was upset about it. than the fact that people actually booed their own team after a win?
You people fail.
I understand exactly what he meant by that. It's a reference to a generic work place. Could have said Walmart or Exxon.
He was still right.
I wasn't happy with how we won, but I sure didn't boo the team I love.
If you really think that, then you're just naive.
zoony
September-21st-2009, 05:16 PM
I understand exactly what he meant by that. It's a reference to a generic work place. Could have said Walmart or Exxon.
He was still right.
I wasn't happy with how we won, but I sure didn't boo the team I love.
It was a slam at those who work in food service and the fans in general - as if they're somehow not qualified to "boo" anyone given their lot in life.
So if I were to say, "who do you think you are arguing with me, you're just a part time cook outside of Philly", you'd be cool with it?
.....
703Skins
September-21st-2009, 05:18 PM
Being a proffesional athlete is NOT easy. I have multiple former teammates who are in the league, and these are guys that have been dedicated and made sacrifices their entire lives to get to where they are. It looks easy when they are out there on Sunday, but we don't see them up at 6 am every morning running and lifting. Or missing those parties back in high school because they had a game the next day. Or pushing that cheese burger aside for something more healthy. Yeah they're paid well but that pay comes from a lifetime of work. Sorry, I just dislike when fans make statements like those.
Ok so whats the difference between waking up at 6am and doing some lifting and waking up at 6am and going to a real job? Sorry, missing parties? that is so heartbreaking. How about working 12 hours days to pay your bills. I would rather wake up at 6am and run and lift and play a game half a year and get paid millions then go to a real job.
2cents
September-21st-2009, 05:18 PM
Sorry, I can't feel sorry for jocks and all their "hard" work. I've been in the Army for 20 years, and you want to see hard work, and guys doing what needs to be done for not a whole lot of money, come on out here to Ft. Leonard Wood, and let me show you around. "Not because I'm scared", give a Drill Sergeant a day with you Henson and see if you are scared, I bet you will be.
RonBurgundy&Gold
September-21st-2009, 05:19 PM
McDonalds employees can't afford Skins tickets.
Its clear hes a rookie and must not understand the years of disappointment that came before the boos on Sunday.
brianm23
September-21st-2009, 05:19 PM
I find it funny things like this get blown out of proportion. It's not a big deal. Robert Henson just trying to defend the team.
I find it a huge deal. Who does he think ultimately pays his salary?
IrepDC
September-21st-2009, 05:19 PM
In many cases this is true. In many more it is simply not.
I remember having an off-the record discussion with a member of the media (who you all know but I'll keep his name off the board) who has spent a very long time covering the team and the NFL very closely. I asked him something along the lines of what he sees that others don't... and his response?
- that so many NFL players are nothing more than knuckleheads who've effectively won a genetic lottery. They have no redeeming qualities whatsoever other than they know how to play football. Yet millions hold them up as heroes.
I can see why he felt this way. Now in some cases, I think you're right. Look at a guy like Romanowski who will probably die in the next few years because of what he subjected his body to.
But not everyone is that way. I have a friend who played at UT for 4 years on the Oline. He told me that when Jamaal Lewis was a freshman at UT the coaches put him on a weight program. In just one semester he bulked up so much that the coaches took him off the weights, and for the entire rest of his collegiate career he was forbidden from lifting weights because he packed on so much muscle and he lost his speed. Jamal Lewis = genetic freak.
Then the reports about how Chris Samuels never hoisted a dumbell until he got into the league. Or how Clinton Portis never lifted weights until last offseason, etc. I've stood next to Clinton Portis. His neck and biceps are just not natural, lol. And without lifting weights :doh:
I'm the first one to say that players are worth what they're paid, but let's not pretend that it's hard work for so many of them. The biggest talent the vast majority of them had is being born.
.......
The guys you're talking about are rare though. I worked out with a former DB from Oklahoma, who played with Adrian Peterson. And he talked about how Peterson was ALWAYS working. Always staying overnight in the gym or film room. Always pushing himself to the limit. More often than not the guys you're talking about fade out pretty quickly. I played with a CB who ran a legit 4.28 at his pro day but had crappy work ethic. He made it to the league yeah, but he's hanging on by the skin of his teeth right now because he doesn't work hard enough. Another one of the CB's I played with was just drafted this year, most blessed athlete I ever met, but until he got serious about football he couldn't catch a break(he was actually out of football for a year). More often than not these guys are making plenty of sacrifices to actually get to the NFL. The half ***'d athletes usually don't make it past college or a few seasons in the league.
Koolblue13
September-21st-2009, 05:20 PM
It was a slam at those who work in food service and the fans in general - as if they're somehow not qualified to "boo" anyone given their lot in life.
So if I were to say, "who do you think you are arguing with me, you're just a part time cook outside of Philly", you'd be cool with it?
.....
A- I tend bar :D
B- As much trash as I talk, I really am not qualified to coach a team.
So yes. And if he tried to tell me how to make a drink, I'd put the "dumb jock" in his place. :)
mi6
September-21st-2009, 05:21 PM
What an idiot.
Sue your fans, disappoint your fans, and insult your fans.
Great job, Redskins!
Precisely!
Hey ... You ghetto kid, get your act together before you call out the Skin fans. They will hand you your arse in no time, and have you sitting curbside as to what happened to your non-existant NFL career.
There were good reasons why you were picked in the 6th round, and some folks even questioned that.
You are a rookie and need to know your place. You are a disgrace to the Skins and the fans alike.
Your apology is a JOKE, and is NOT ACCEPTED. Go piss off! :mad:
IrepDC
September-21st-2009, 05:22 PM
Sorry, I can't feel sorry for jocks and all their "hard" work. I've been in the Army for 20 years, and you want to see hard work, and guys doing what needs to be done for not a whole lot of money, come on out here to Ft. Leonard Wood, and let me show you around. "Not because I'm scared", give a Drill Sergeant a day with you Henson and see if you are scared, I bet you will be.
Why does it have to be a competition though? Yes you probably bust your butt in the army but I can give plenty of testimony on blood, sweat, and tears shed on the football field, and I'm not even talking about games. The stereotypes against "jocks" are played out.
mi6
September-21st-2009, 05:23 PM
Bring Cody Glenn back, and cut Robert Henson's sorry and pathetic arse.
Zazzaro703
September-21st-2009, 05:23 PM
Is anybody actually more surprised that a player who was booed by his own fans, was upset about it. than the fact that people actually booed their own team after a win?
You people fail.
I'm with you on this one BUT i didn't pay for tickets and wasn't at the game. I feel like i saw improvement from the team, particually Campbell, and if some of those balls aren't dropped the team isn't booed and we win easy. Got our first win, should get the next four. Let the team build off this win. Wins in the NFL don't come easy. I hated that they were booed while kneeling for the win but what can you do. It's not like i dont understand where the booing came from. I was cursing during the game too, but happy with the win.
BigMike21
September-21st-2009, 05:23 PM
Bring Cody Glenn back, and cut Robert Henson's sorry and pathetic arse.
Seconded.
wildbill1952
September-21st-2009, 05:24 PM
People that work at McDonald's can't afford Redskins tickets. Or $7 beers. Or $46 parking. Or limo rides. But they deserve respect like any hard-working person does.
SKIN4WAHOOZ
September-21st-2009, 05:24 PM
hey dumb*** those 9-5 mcd employees pay your practice squad salary. enjoy your short stay in dc!!
IrepDC
September-21st-2009, 05:25 PM
Ok so whats the difference between waking up at 6am and doing some lifting and waking up at 6am and going to a real job? Sorry, missing parties? that is so heartbreaking. How about working 12 hours days to pay your bills. I would rather wake up at 6am and run and lift and play a game half a year and get paid millions then go to a real job.
Dude I gave the watered down answer and that's just the high school level. I could make a long list of sacrifices that athletes have to make but I'm not trying to COMPETE. I'm just saying that these guys DO work for a living. The mental AND physical toughness specifically required for football is huge. It's not just standing on the sideline collecting a check.
dockeryfan
September-21st-2009, 05:26 PM
Was Henson calling himself and the rest of the team dim wits?
"Don't come to Fedex to boo dim wits"
Well I don't want to boo the good athletes. I WANT to boo the dim wits. I think he's got it all wrong.
Sweet Sassy Molassy
September-21st-2009, 05:29 PM
I agree with Koolblue and I agree with Henson. His wording may have been poor but I can see where he's coming from. Your team just won, sure they didn't look sexy doing it, but would you have preferred we had a sexy loss? Hell if ihad to I'd take 12 ugly wins over 12 sexy losses. If Cooley had tweeted this I get the feeling that half of you would be singing a different tune.
2cents
September-21st-2009, 05:29 PM
I know they work for a living. But it is hard to feel sorry for a guy who does work hard, and even though he doesn't see the field is going to make something like $300,000 this year. I'll take that with everything I have to go through with the Army for $48,000. I want my son to be a long snapper, play 10 plays a game and make half a million. Beats really working.
BigMike21
September-21st-2009, 05:32 PM
Dude I gave the watered down answer and that's just the high school level. I could make a long list of sacrifices that athletes have to make but I'm not trying to COMPETE. I'm just saying that these guys DO work for a living. The mental AND physical toughness specifically required for football is huge. It's not just standing on the sideline collecting a check.
Yes they work very hard and make sacrifices but are compensated disproportionately.
Koolblue13
September-21st-2009, 05:33 PM
I agree with Koolblue and I agree with Henson. His wording may have been poor but I can see where he's coming from. Your team just won, sure they didn't look sexy doing it, but would you have preferred we had a sexy loss? Hell if ihad to I'd take 12 ugly wins over 12 sexy losses. If Cooley had tweeted this I get the feeling that half of you would be singing a different tune.
Imagine, you're at you new teams Home Opener and you get the win. You have to be so excited for your team and fans.
Then they boo you anyway. That ****ing sucks.
Might as well be an iggle.
BigMike21
September-21st-2009, 05:34 PM
Imagine, you're at you new teams Home Opener and you get the win. You have to be so excited for your team and fans.
Then they boo you anyway. That ****ing sucks.
Might as well be an iggle.
This is not a normal situation. This fan base is at a boiling point not seen in the last 15 years. And he isn't wrong for feeling that way. He is wrong for publicly displaying it.
SoCalSkins
September-21st-2009, 05:35 PM
He will be booed and talked smack to the rest of his career. It is going to be a rough 3 weeks for him.
Hitman#21
September-21st-2009, 05:35 PM
I'm all for forgiveness, but i'm not sure how he's going to live this down. One thing you don't do is verbally attack your own fans...Big, big, no no.
Its a battle you can not win. expecially a rookie.
Koolblue13
September-21st-2009, 05:36 PM
This is not a normal situation. This fan base is at a boiling point not seen in the last 15 years. And he isn't wrong for feeling that way. He is wrong for publicly displaying it.
Like booing your team?
authentic
September-21st-2009, 05:37 PM
"not because I'm scared"
The fact that he has to preface his apology with these words tells you what kind of character we're dealing with here. Good riddance, I hope you're out of the league soon, and working at McDonald's. Criminal Justice Major at TCU, probably about all your qualified for. :)
I doubt it since his father-in-law is a multimillion dollar preacher. If he doesn't make it in football he can go into the ministry and pimp the follows there. I doubt he will be pumping gas or working at MCD's.
BigMike21
September-21st-2009, 05:38 PM
Like booing your team?
No dude you have to see the difference. I am the PAYER and he is the PAYEE. We are not the same. He is held at a higher standard than me and rightfully so.
Monkart
September-21st-2009, 05:41 PM
I understand exactly what he meant by that. It's a reference to a generic work place. Could have said Walmart or Exxon.
He was still right.
I wasn't happy with how we won, but I sure didn't boo the team I love.
I'd like to just point out that most people that work in the generic work places, can't afford to actually go to a game these days. I mean really!! it would take up the whole weeks pay to attend a game. So really who's the ****ing dim wit here, most of the fans at the games have jobs or careers that pay pretty well.
DCskinFAN
September-21st-2009, 05:42 PM
i agree with what henson said totally.
the booing "fans" are dimwits.
BigMike21
September-21st-2009, 05:44 PM
i agree with what henson said totally.
the booing "fans" are dimwits.
Your a dimwit for putting those quotations up there imply that we are not fans while you are. GTF outta here.
RonJeremy
September-21st-2009, 05:52 PM
I was there. I was embarrased that lots of people booed. I understand Henson's frustration but he has handled it all wrong. The Rookie is learning a tough lesson about being a public figure.
ljs
September-21st-2009, 06:04 PM
I for one would not have boo'd. Are you guys who boo'd iggle fans? Come on, we are better than that. Would you rather have 31 pts and a loss? That was so ridiculous. I too would love to see more points, but a win is a win.
CP said, "If they gave out 1/2 pts, I'd be ok if we won by 1/2 a point." Cooley called you guys shamefull. So where's the hate for them?
You guys want to get behind this team, give them some motivation? Booing is not the way to go. Who the hell wants to play for fans that boo them when they win? I wouldn't.
lashondajones
September-21st-2009, 06:07 PM
don't insult the fans. thats the first rule. we all get that. but at least i'll give him one thing and that is he is loyal to the team. and he also has attitude. maybe at least thats a good thing because if he brings that attitude to the field and ends up being ray lewis i wouldn't care if he said insulting things every week.
Papabear
September-21st-2009, 06:08 PM
I have given all of my support for this team for years. While they get paid Millions of dollars (most of them) what the hell have the Skins fans got back in return?
NOTHING.
That is why I boo.
Ashburn Dave
September-21st-2009, 06:13 PM
What an idiot
Kindred
September-21st-2009, 06:14 PM
A- I tend bar :D
B- As much trash as I talk, I really am not qualified to coach a team.
So yes. And if he tried to tell me how to make a drink, I'd put the "dumb jock" in his place. :)
You fail at managing public images. You're opinion on this doesnt matter anyway, you're just a dim witted bartender.
Get the idea? Now even if everything Hensen tweeted was true and 100% correct, imagine if somebody at a company made a similar statement about its customers, publically belittling their knowledge and pathetic jobs.
Kindred
September-21st-2009, 06:19 PM
I for one would not have boo'd. Are you guys who boo'd iggle fans? Come on, we are better than that. Would you rather have 31 pts and a loss? That was so ridiculous. I too would love to see more points, but a win is a win.
CP said, "If they gave out 1/2 pts, I'd be ok if we won by 1/2 a point." Cooley called you guys shamefull. So where's the hate for them?
You guys want to get behind this team, give them some motivation? Booing is not the way to go. Who the hell wants to play for fans that boo them when they win? I wouldn't.
This belief that we only need to do JUST enough to win, is what kills me. This is one of the reasons we lose so many close games. We do just enough to win, which is slim enough to easily lose.
Fight for ole DC
September-21st-2009, 06:38 PM
This just in.....Robert Henson will be signing autographs at the local McDonald's on his off day tomorrow. :silly:
In all honesty, I was a little offended by his comments because I've been a fan of the skins for far longer than he's known how to wipe his own #$$. I've lived through five super bowls and three glorious wins. I've also lived (barely:mad:) through many frustrating seasons. Like many other fans, I am very angry that the team keeps making the same stupid mistakes in the red zone.....dumb, predictable play-calling and not taking advantage of our strentghs.
I remember seeing a training camp picture of MK leaping high in the back of the end zone to snag a pass for a score. I dreamed of seeing him make similar catches for years to come. Why on earth do we not use those skills in the red zone? Not once in the game did we try to throw to a BIG receiver in the end zone. It was the same pathetic, predictable plays that plagued the offense last year that made me angry.
If I or any other fan is upset with a team that refuses to make changes to a broken system it is reasonable for me to express my displeasure. If a player, particularly a rookie who hardly contributes, feels it necessary to criticize me or any other fan so be it. But, you better be prepared for he long term consquences of offending die hard Redskin Fans. We don't take lightly to "dim wit" rookies who make dumb mistakes. I hope he learned his lesson because he will probably never hear the end of it until he contributes in a meaningful way towards retruning this team glory.
santana_4_prez
September-21st-2009, 06:43 PM
Being a proffesional athlete is NOT easy. I have multiple former teammates who are in the league, and these are guys that have been dedicated and made sacrifices their entire lives to get to where they are. It looks easy when they are out there on Sunday, but we don't see them up at 6 am every morning running and lifting. Or missing those parties back in high school because they had a game the next day. Or pushing that cheese burger aside for something more healthy. Yeah they're paid well but that pay comes from a lifetime of work. Sorry, I just dislike when fans make statements like those.
I know it is not easy, I live next door to 3 Mizzou players, and I see the work they put in.
But "come on man"...they get paid to workout! And a LOT of money at that. I work 40 hours a week and workout at least 10...
BuddyLeeGhostHunter
September-21st-2009, 07:01 PM
i agree with what henson said totally.
the booing "fans" are dimwits.
I hope you can afford the 70,000 seats that the "dimwits" paid for.
BuddyLeeGhostHunter
September-21st-2009, 07:03 PM
I for one would not have boo'd. Are you guys who boo'd iggle fans? Come on, we are better than that. Would you rather have 31 pts and a loss? That was so ridiculous. I too would love to see more points, but a win is a win.
CP said, "If they gave out 1/2 pts, I'd be ok if we won by 1/2 a point." Cooley called you guys shamefull. So where's the hate for them?
You guys want to get behind this team, give them some motivation? Booing is not the way to go. Who the hell wants to play for fans that boo them when they win? I wouldn't.Yet other players totally understood the booing. Hall and Smoot said they understood and would have "boo'd" as well. Daniels even chimed in. Even Jim Zorn said he was booing in his head today on Comcast.:rotflmao:
Iggles fan boo for the sport of it all. Skins fans must have something to boo about. That something was the same mediocre play the past two decades. It wasn't just this game. This game was merely symbolic of the culmination of everything horrid.
Maximus71
September-21st-2009, 07:04 PM
There is nothing wrong with working at McDonald's (I don't). But, some people actually have to work for a living, and weren't blessed with athletic ability which allows certain people to play a sport (or stand on the sidelines, without dressing) for a living. What an *******.
The funny part is, this same Dim Wit is going to work at McDonald's when he is out of the league or sell insurance, both are pretty much the same :D
MurrayH81
September-21st-2009, 08:01 PM
I agree with Koolblue and I agree with Henson. His wording may have been poor but I can see where he's coming from. Your team just won, sure they didn't look sexy doing it, but would you have preferred we had a sexy loss? Hell if ihad to I'd take 12 ugly wins over 12 sexy losses. If Cooley had tweeted this I get the feeling that half of you would be singing a different tune.
Okay, go back to the middle of last season. Review the game summaries online if you don't remember them. Now remember the off-season hype and pre-season assurances and expectations (fostered by the management, coaching staff and players). Now place the last two games in context. One ugly road loss against the division winner Giants. One ugly win against a perennial NFL bottom feeder. Yes, its just game two of this season. Guess what though, its the same non-Redskins (by any criteria or measurement but name) crud we are still seeing. Effort, coaching and play that is largely representative of an NFL bottom feeder team.
If you ordered and expected to receive a tasty sirloin steak at one of the better steak houses in your town (representative of a very successful and storied NFL franchise), and the waiter brought you a raw squid on a plate, would you say "well, its a meal" (e.g. well, they won), or would you tell the waiter "hey, this is not acceptable. I ordered a sirloin steak" (e.g. boo!).
Yes, a win is a win, once it is over. However, I think the fans are tired of paying for steak and getting raw squid. Unlike the casual diner, who can refuse to pay, complain, etc. Fans have little recourse other to suck it up or Boo. Perhaps the fans have sucked it up long enough. Yes, they can leave (but they are not getting a refund). Yes they can refuse to return (but the ones who paid for season tickets effectively lose their money). Dan Snyder does pay attention to what is happening inside the stadium game day. So does the coaching staff, and so do the players (and the ones who performed badly know that they were being targeted, the others can call them out and ignore the fans).
Frankly, booing a terrible performance (even a win) shows that fans have some passion and give a crap about what they are seeing.
It also may be indicative of a mass flash breakdown in etiquette based on what they have been seeing and their desire for the Redskins to improve.
How else are the Redskins (all facets of the organization) to get immediate feedback? Wouldn't they want to know that the strings of ugly performances last year and this year, are wearing thin with fans? Wouldn't they want to know that the manner in which they eked out a victory against a perennial NFL bottom feeder was raw squid?
Maximus71
September-21st-2009, 08:07 PM
If you ordered and expected to receive a tasty sirloin steak at one of the better steak houses in your town (representative of a very successful and storied NFL franchise), and the waiter brought you a raw squid on a plate, would you say "well, its a meal" (e.g. well, they won), or would you tell the waiter "hey, this is not acceptable. I ordered a sirloin steak" (e.g. boo!).
Why would you compare a win to a Sirloin? Why not a T Bone or a Ribeye? I think the win on Sunday was a Sirloin that was cooked well done, I remember ordering a Ray's Steak Bone in NY Strip ;)
MurrayH81
September-21st-2009, 08:09 PM
You guys want to get behind this team, give them some motivation? Booing is not the way to go. Who the hell wants to play for fans that boo them when they win? I wouldn't.
Who wants Redskins players that stand behind that ugly as sin win over a perennial NFL bottom feeding team. Were they proud of that? Was that the best this latest group of players to put the uniform on has in them? Was that the best coaching effort possible? Was that what fans who have loyally funded this team deserve to see.
Sometimes a sporting team is overmatched. Sometimes things go wrong. Sometimes players get outplayed. Sometimes teams are outcoached. Our fans have traditionally taken the high road and accepted these things because the Skins clearly did their best, and got beat, or won ugly.
Losing ugly, season after season may finally be eroding the restraint, respect and good will that fans have supplied in abundance.
NBC89
September-21st-2009, 08:14 PM
i actually agree with him. go off on me if you want. the manner in which he delivered his message wasn't right, but he was right in terms of what he was trying to get across. don't go to the game if you're gonna boo. don't say you booed because you're fed up with the organization and what they're doing--if you feel that way, stay on your couch and watch it from home. true fans don't want you representing the team at the game. and sure he doesn't play, but i guarantee he was saying what every starter was thinking.
airs0ft3r
September-21st-2009, 08:17 PM
i agree with what henson said totally.
the booing "fans" are dimwits.
The fans who are mad are dimwits. A guy can't catch a break out here.
I would have booed. The game pissed me off. But I'm not going to get my panties in a bunch if a player on the team that I love gets pissed ****ing off because the team he signed with isn't giving any love.
Most fans here are idiots. Downright idiots. Henson had the right to say that.
jnhay
September-21st-2009, 08:18 PM
says the 21 year old. get back to me after you've worked in an office for 10 years.
:rolleyes:
Poor you.
I understand exactly what he meant by that. It's a reference to a generic work place. Could have said Walmart or Exxon.
He was still right.
I wasn't happy with how we won, but I sure didn't boo the team I love.
Booing doesn't mean, "I hate you and will now go root for someone else"
Burgundy Burner
September-21st-2009, 08:25 PM
Message for Mr. Henson...
Sir, I envy the athletic abilities that you possess. However, I pity the social capacities that you possess. Please, let me elaborate a bit more.
I attend church where one of our beloved members is mentally challenged and he is loved by many. Obviously, his talents are limited, but he takes an enormous amount of pride in his job with McDonald's. His duties and chores are few, but he is a dedicated worker who never complains to his boss or to the many customers who pass through this particular restaurant.
Yesterday, you chose to demean Redskins fans, employees at McDonald's, and my young friend - a young man who admires athletes like you and many others. You chose to cast the ultimate insult at him and to those of us who are willing to fork over huge amounts of money for attending games, purchasing souvenirs, and the occasional autograph.
I appreciate the apology, but it will take more than words to redeem yourself to the fans and this young man. We're watching.
bikie
September-21st-2009, 08:36 PM
Being a proffesional athlete is NOT easy. I have multiple former teammates who are in the league, and these are guys that have been dedicated and made sacrifices their entire lives to get to where they are. It looks easy when they are out there on Sunday, but we don't see them up at 6 am every morning running and lifting. Or missing those parties back in high school because they had a game the next day. Or pushing that cheese burger aside for something more healthy. Yeah they're paid well but that pay comes from a lifetime of work. Sorry, I just dislike when fans make statements like those.
good lord, cry me a river, you just described anyone who wants to live a healthy lifestyle or makes sacrifices in this world to get ahead... athletes don't do s--- that anyone in any type of profession don't also do, and don't have a free ride in college or get paid a fraction to do... most of these kids are just uninformed, arrogant aholes, ignorant to the lottery they won in life... they find out soon enough though when the majority of them will blow their money and receive zero of the benefits in life they became accustomed to taking for granted...
MurrayH81
September-21st-2009, 08:37 PM
i actually agree with him. go off on me if you want. the manner in which he delivered his message wasn't right, but he was right in terms of what he was trying to get across. don't go to the game if you're gonna boo. don't say you booed because you're fed up with the organization and what they're doing--if you feel that way, stay on your couch and watch it from home. true fans don't want you representing the team at the game. and sure he doesn't play, but i guarantee he was saying what every starter was thinking.
Do you honestly believe that thousands of fans attended that game so that they could boo the team? Got up in the morning, and said "Boy, I am going to the stadium and booing the Redskins today, because I sure don't have anything to do and am (secretly) a [insert the despised team name of your choice here] fan!"
Or is it more likely that during and after the game, they were so upset at what they saw, they felt compelled to do something that would provide immediate feedback to the entire organization present, about what they saw or have been seeing?
btfoom
September-21st-2009, 08:39 PM
For all of you here that are sticking up for him 'going after' the booing are missing the point. I don't care if the players want to complain about the booing - personally I just think it is counter productive, but it comes witht he territory. The item that most of us are upset about is his stupid 'McDonalds' comment. That comment was basically his way of saying 'You fans just work at small-time jobs, not like me, a professional athelete. How dare you commoners boo the likes of me'.
His 'job' is no more or no less important than the folks working at McDonalds. Maybe he should keep that in mind, especially as his job right now is to show up at practice and provide fodder for the real players.
Lastly, high school, college, and pro athletes don't work any harder than the rest of us. Missing parties, yes I did, studying or working two jobs to afford to go to school. Most students don't get their own tutors, meals, dorms, etc. And getting up at 6 AM is tough? How about you get up tomorrow at 5:30 AM and take a drive around the beltway. See how many 'regular folks' are going to work then. Many of those same people will also be on the road at 6 PM that night. I know the smell of those guys jocks can be overwhelming, but don't let the fumes go to your head.
sknsrbck26
September-21st-2009, 08:41 PM
Well I think we all know, the Redskins told him to apologize. I'm not sure how far it'll go with other skins fans, but not for me.
Dan T.
September-21st-2009, 08:57 PM
Maybe those that boo'ed need to lower their expectations. Most of us thought we could tee off on the lowly St. Louis Rams and get the offense revved up at their expense. It's become clear now that we are only a little bit better than the Rams, and we should be happy with the win, regardless of how it looked.
Given last season, this preseason, and the first two games, I have no great expectations for this team. It breaks my heart to say that, because I had a lot of hope that things would come together this year. But what I've seen is that right now, we're nowhere close to the Giants and a little bit better than the Rams.
That knowledge will help me to cope as I watch this season unfold, and protect the picture tube on my flat screen TV, as I am now less likely to throw my remote through it.
NO iD=A-Ok
September-21st-2009, 09:05 PM
"not because I'm scared"
The fact that he has to preface his apology with these words tells you what kind of character we're dealing with here. Good riddance, I hope you're out of the league soon, and working at McDonald's. Criminal Justice Major at TCU, probably about all your qualified for. :)
Leodis McKelvin just had his lawn vandalized for fumbling at the end of a game...It wouldn't surprise me to hear of some "dim wits" in this area doing worse...
icbmayday
September-21st-2009, 09:08 PM
this was really blown out of proportion
Dondrae474
September-21st-2009, 09:11 PM
He is lucky that he didn't get cut. The team is in need of goodwill from the fan base after ticketgate and it's no secret that the team is having to get more creative to sell season tickets. Henson's actions do nothing for the team's efforts.
mcpingist
September-21st-2009, 09:23 PM
Afterward, Henson tweeted: "All you fake half hearted Skins fan can .. I won't go there but I dislike you very strongly, don't come to Fed Ex to boo dim wits!!" Henson also tweeted: "The question is who are you to say you know what's best for the team and you work 9 to 5 at Mcdonalds."
Before calling people dim wits, Henson should learn a little about punctuation. He needs a comma after boo in the bolded, underlined sentence above. Without it, the result is that he is accusing the fans of booing dim wits, not being dim wits. I seriously doubt that was his intension. He should also be careful about denigrating McDonald's workers. He may soon be one.
kramdizzle
September-21st-2009, 09:49 PM
who cares what he says he'll be out of the league in three years begging for a job at mcdonalds
Karl W
September-21st-2009, 09:56 PM
I don't mind him criticizing booing fans (although the "dim-wit" part was uncalled for). But I really didn't like the insult to the tens of thousands of people who work at McDonalds. I worked at McDonalds in high school. I read somewhere that 8% of the American workforce worked at McDonalds at one time in their lives, and for many it is their first job, as it was mine. In metropolitan areas like ours, McDonalds gives many recent immigrants their first job.
NBC89
September-21st-2009, 10:10 PM
Do you honestly believe that thousands of fans attended that game so that they could boo the team? Got up in the morning, and said "Boy, I am going to the stadium and booing the Redskins today, because I sure don't have anything to do and am (secretly) a [insert the despised team name of your choice here] fan!"
Or is it more likely that during and after the game, they were so upset at what they saw, they felt compelled to do something that would provide immediate feedback to the entire organization present, about what they saw or have been seeing?
no..what i'm saying is, the fans that are always so pessimistic (probably 90-100% of the ones that booed) should stay home if they're going to complain about spending money on a ticket to a win. no one forced you to buy a ticket, and on top of that, the team didn't lose. if you're "upset with what you saw" (a win), i don't know what to tell you. not every game is gonna be a blowout. people need to stop bitching and be a little optimistic for once. boo if you want, i just think it shows no faith in the team, especially when a lot of players (and coaches) are working really hard. you may say, "no, i was booing the coaches/front office/whatever," but i guarantee it's disheartening to a lot of the players, especially the ones that started. and in henson's defense (this wasn't mentioned in the first post of the thread), fans threw things at him. i'm not saying every skins fan is like that, but that's just terrible.
BuddyLeeGhostHunter
September-21st-2009, 10:15 PM
fans threw things at him. i'm not saying every skins fan is like that, but that's just terrible.
No, they didn't.
MurrayH81
September-21st-2009, 10:50 PM
no..what i'm saying is, the fans that are always so pessimistic (probably 90-100% of the ones that booed) should stay home if they're going to complain about spending money on a ticket to a win. no one forced you to buy a ticket, and on top of that, the team didn't lose. if you're "upset with what you saw" (a win), i don't know what to tell you. not every game is gonna be a blowout. people need to stop bitching and be a little optimistic for once. boo if you want, i just think it shows no faith in the team, especially when a lot of players (and coaches) are working really hard. you may say, "no, i was booing the coaches/front office/whatever," but i guarantee it's disheartening to a lot of the players, especially the ones that started. and in henson's defense (this wasn't mentioned in the first post of the thread), fans threw things at him. i'm not saying every skins fan is like that, but that's just terrible.
Okay, what I get out of what you are saying is that my expectations should be lower, because not every game is going to be, or is a win.
I totally understand that. What I expect is effort commensurate with being a Redskin. I simply didn't see that, or anything remotely like that from most of the offense, a smattering of the defense, and the offensive play calling.
If I lower my expectations, than I am not rooting for the Redskins, but for something less. (in this specfic case, Rams +2pts) Is that what being a good fan now constitutes -- lowering your expectations to match whatever is placed in front of you?
Fact is, if I felt that the team and game plan was the best possible given the talent, injuries and opponent, and the team still lost, I wouldn't be giddy about it, but I wouldn't be pissed off either. What we have been seeing, is not what we are sold, is not what we hear from the team, and is not what any fan who pays NFL premium prices should expect. It's not just this game -- the team looks exactly like their worst from last year.
Finally, while I agree that Boos during the end of the game might be counterproductive, I have seen nothing else viable suggested that would serve the same notice to the organization, in real time, that was not prepared for in advance.
Jimbo
September-21st-2009, 11:35 PM
Apologizing on Twitter is just spineless. Seek out a reporter or member of the media and let them put the word out. If all else fails, have the team release a statement. Don't hide behind Twitter. That makes him look even worse. Make a REAL apology, man.
Sweet Sassy Molassy
September-21st-2009, 11:39 PM
Apologizing on Twitter is just spineless. Seek out a reporter or member of the media and let them put the word out. If all else fails, have the team release a statement. Don't hide behind Twitter. That makes him look even worse. Make a REAL apology, man.
He made the comment on Twitter, and apologized in the particular arena that he made the statement. This is really getting comical and petty.
Jimbo
September-21st-2009, 11:49 PM
He made the comment on Twitter, and apologized in the particular arena that he made the statement. This is really getting comical and petty.
What's comical and petty is an inactive benchwarmer offering an uneducated, insulting opinion.
steve09ru
September-21st-2009, 11:56 PM
Dude I gave the watered down answer and that's just the high school level.
Is that because you only worked out with them at the "high school" level...do you actually follow them around day to day, hour by hour, minute by minute. You hear about players who work their *** off (4 days a week with the quarterback) - what else do they have to do during the off-season(just an example) - if I could even sniff the NFL I would be out there all the time working on my game (7 days a week if need be)
- film does not wear you out - the mental aspect as a rookie who hasn't sniffed the field is a joke. Henson has no reason to come off like he did, when a team is inside the 10 yard line 4 times in one game (runs 1st and 2nd) and gets boo'ed for it after the whole drive consists of easy completions...I guarantee the rest of the defense enjoyed hearing the boos..
- how would you like it if you worked your ass off for 60 minutes to find your coach calls running plays when they are not going to work (after driving down the field throwing completion after completion to get into position to score) then just flop over
- main point from this rant : why go away from what is working?
MONTEY
September-21st-2009, 11:56 PM
Okay, what I get out of what you are saying is that my expectations should be lower, because not every game is going to be, or is a win.
I totally understand that. What I expect is effort commensurate with being a Redskin. I simply didn't see that, or anything remotely like that from most of the offense, a smattering of the defense, and the offensive play calling.
If I lower my expectations, than I am not rooting for the Redskins, but for something less. (in this specfic case, Rams +2pts) Is that what being a good fan now constitutes -- lowering your expectations to match whatever is placed in front of you?
Fact is, if I felt that the team and game plan was the best possible given the talent, injuries and opponent, and the team still lost, I wouldn't be giddy about it, but I wouldn't be pissed off either. What we have been seeing, is not what we are sold, is not what we hear from the team, and is not what any fan who pays NFL premium prices should expect. It's not just this game -- the team looks exactly like their worst from last year.
Finally, while I agree that Boos during the end of the game might be counterproductive, I have seen nothing else viable suggested that would serve the same notice to the organization, in real time, that was not prepared for in advance.
Not a fan of booing but I would have booed witnessing such a blessed crap of inept play calling at the goal line like that. 4x at that.
Some fans on this thread don't seem to mind mediocrity. Guess they've become immune to it and take it for what it is and just say "oh well" for so many seasons. I never had and I never will with my Skins. And I will continue to chastise them for inept crap.
I love the burgundy and gold . Its deep in my heart. But most times I truly hate how much I love these Redskins.
RomoShotTupac
September-22nd-2009, 12:49 AM
I think he's a good kid. I've followed him on Twitter since we drafted him. Go back and read some of his older tweets where he talks about how proud he was to be a Redskin. He obviously didn't handle this well, but I still think he is a good kid. I know everyone is pissed off but don't judge him by a couple stupid things he said on Twitter.
Burgundy Burner
September-22nd-2009, 07:45 AM
Apologizing on Twitter is just spineless. Seek out a reporter or member of the media and let them put the word out. If all else fails, have the team release a statement. Don't hide behind Twitter. That makes him look even worse. Make a REAL apology, man.
The more that I think about this statement, the more I agree with it. The apology on Twitter is nice, but doing it on a local radio station, Redskins TV, or a local TV station is much better - and much more sincere.
Mr. Henson, stop hiding behind Twitter.
Dan T.
September-22nd-2009, 07:51 AM
Apologizing on Twitter is just spineless. Seek out a reporter or member of the media and let them put the word out. If all else fails, have the team release a statement. Don't hide behind Twitter. That makes him look even worse. Make a REAL apology, man.
The more that I think about this statement, the more I agree with it. The apology on Twitter is nice, but doing it on a local radio station, Redskins TV, or a local TV station is much better - and much more sincere.
Mr. Henson, stop hiding behind Twitter.
He went on local radio. I heard a replay of an interview where he apologized, on WJFK 106.7.
Burgundy Burner
September-22nd-2009, 07:56 AM
He went on local radio. I heard a replay of an interview where he apologized, on WJFK 106.7.
That's good to know - I hope there will be a recording of it available sometime soon.
Dan T.
September-22nd-2009, 07:59 AM
He's also on Redskins.com, apologizing in an interview with Larry Michael, taped at 11:00pm last night.
First link on redskins.com video gallery.
I'm listening now. If there was an Emmy award for Smarminess, Larry Michael would be a perennial winner:
Michael: "It makes me proud to be a member of this organization, folks, to be able to be here for a young man like this, who wanted to speak with the Redskins fans directly, after seeing what would be published and after going through what he would be going through the last 24 hours, and in fact he also told me after the Tweet that [turns to Henson] one of your first jobs was at McDonald's, so some of what you said obviously was passion because of the way that game unfolded, and because, obviously, coming off the field, the Redskins would have wished to have scored more points, it was a tough environment, but fortunately you guys did win the ballgame, but what you did was a mistake [thrusts the mic into Henson's face]. :rolleyes:
Blue Collar Skins
September-22nd-2009, 08:17 AM
I think it was the McDonald's comment that rubbed most folks poorly. So for that, you fail. :) I can totally understand the McDonald's comment being way off base, but his initial sentiment (which he very very poorly articulated) of booing your own team, I think has merit. While the way he conveyed it, flagged him as an idiot.
SKOALSKIN
September-22nd-2009, 09:07 AM
Being a proffesional athlete is NOT easy. I have multiple former teammates who are in the league, and these are guys that have been dedicated and made sacrifices their entire lives to get to where they are. It looks easy when they are out there on Sunday, but we don't see them up at 6 am every morning running and lifting. Or missing those parties back in high school because they had a game the next day. Or pushing that cheese burger aside for something more healthy. Yeah they're paid well but that pay comes from a lifetime of work. Sorry, I just dislike when fans make statements like those.
What players are you talking about? Not the skins. Our guys are out popping bottles and banging chicks until 3-4am. On top of that are getting paid millions. Don't pull this sacrafice card these guys live the ****ing dream. Their job is to workout. And thats only 4 times a week in the offseason. Cry me a river.
703Skins
September-22nd-2009, 10:23 AM
Yeah, apparently living a healthy lifestyle by lifting/running (which i do 4 times a week). Sitting down and going over film and playing a game while getting millions of dollars is just such hard work. My bad. We never hear of football players going to clubs, strip clubs, "private boat parties", and just living a fancy life. They dont spend all their time "sacrificing" themselves. I'm pretty sure everybody would want to be a professional football player from 21-33ish then working a real job. You're pretty much set if you manage your money correctly.
dreamingwolf
September-22nd-2009, 11:11 AM
Fedex is one of the few stadiums in the league where both teams offenses get to enjoy realitive quite. Im not saying no one at the stadium makes any noise when we are on defense, but the majority of people look at you like your crazy or just annoying when you try to make noise on third down.
Couple that with how many seats are owned by brokers, and how few they sell and you have a pretty quite stadium. There were so many empty seats on sunday it was almost as heart breaking as how quite it was when the rams were on offense.
MassSkinsFan
September-22nd-2009, 12:04 PM
I know it is not easy, I live next door to 3 Mizzou players, and I see the work they put in.
But "come on man"...they get paid to workout! And a LOT of money at that. I work 40 hours a week and workout at least 10...
And lemme guess - no league minimum payment? :evilg:
redskins0756
September-22nd-2009, 12:07 PM
I can totally understand the McDonald's comment being way off base, but his initial sentiment (which he very very poorly articulated) of booing your own team, I think has merit. While the way he conveyed it, flagged him as an idiot.
I could understand if it was a player who went out there and worked his tail off.
But we're talking about a rookie LB who has been inactive an never stepped on an NFL field (I don't count preseason). How is he justified in making those comments? His message held no merit and you should listen to the Mike and Mike clip. Greeny makes an excellent point that we are paying customers to this team and for the past decade and a half we've seen at best mediocrity.
MassSkinsFan
September-22nd-2009, 12:12 PM
Afterward, Henson tweeted: "All you fake half hearted Skins fan can .. I won't go there but I dislike you very strongly, don't come to Fed Ex to boo dim wits!!" Henson also tweeted: "The question is who are you to say you know what's best for the team and you work 9 to 5 at Mcdonalds."
Before calling people dim wits, Henson should learn a little about punctuation. He needs a comma after boo in the bolded, underlined sentence above. Without it, the result is that he is accusing the fans of booing dim wits, not being dim wits. I seriously doubt that was his intension. He should also be careful about denigrating McDonald's workers. He may soon be one.
It's the interwebz dood - see your bolded mistake! ;) ...just sayin' - no offense intended. :)
Lombardi's_kid_brother
September-22nd-2009, 12:17 PM
The guys you're talking about are rare though. I worked out with a former DB from Oklahoma, who played with Adrian Peterson. And he talked about how Peterson was ALWAYS working. Always staying overnight in the gym or film room. Always pushing himself to the limit. More often than not the guys you're talking about fade out pretty quickly. I played with a CB who ran a legit 4.28 at his pro day but had crappy work ethic. He made it to the league yeah, but he's hanging on by the skin of his teeth right now because he doesn't work hard enough. Another one of the CB's I played with was just drafted this year, most blessed athlete I ever met, but until he got serious about football he couldn't catch a break(he was actually out of football for a year). More often than not these guys are making plenty of sacrifices to actually get to the NFL. The half ***'d athletes usually don't make it past college or a few seasons in the league.
The fact that you can half ass it and get a college scholarship or a few seasons in the league is proof to the genetic lottery theory.
IrepDC
September-22nd-2009, 12:20 PM
What players are you talking about? Not the skins. Our guys are out popping bottles and banging chicks until 3-4am. On top of that are getting paid millions. Don't pull this sacrafice card these guys live the ****ing dream. Their job is to workout. And thats only 4 times a week in the offseason. Cry me a river.
You've never played football clearly. Their job is to workout? Lol working out after you've ran full speed into other grown men all day. Working out with fractured bones, concussions, contusions. This is hardly checkers. The mental and physical demand is crazy.
IrepDC
September-22nd-2009, 12:25 PM
The fact that you can half ass it and get a college scholarship or a few seasons in the league is proof to the genetic lottery theory.
No it's not. There are just as many slackers at any other work place getting overpaid. Some of you might be that overpaid slacker. With any proffesion there are some people who bust there butt to get to the top and some people who get lucky. Only in the NFL if you are one of those slackers you will get exposed QUICKLY. People are just going off of stereotypes that they see on tv. The party animal life is all fun athlete. Like I said I have multiple former teammates in the league, some of them close friends because they played in the secondary with me, and this perception that you all have is not correct.
IrepDC
September-22nd-2009, 12:34 PM
Is that because you only worked out with them at the "high school" level...do you actually follow them around day to day, hour by hour, minute by minute. You hear about players who work their ass off (4 days a week with the quarterback) - what else do they have to do during the off-season(just an example) - if I could even sniff the NFL I would be out there all the time working on my game (7 days a week if need be)
- film does not wear you out - the mental aspect as a rookie who hasn't sniffed the field is a joke. Henson has no reason to come off like he did, when a team is inside the 10 yard line 4 times in one game (runs 1st and 2nd) and gets boo'ed for it after the whole drive consists of easy completions...I guarantee the rest of the defense enjoyed hearing the boos..
- how would you like it if you worked your ass off for 60 minutes to find your coach calls BS running plays when they are not going to work (after driving down the field throwing completion after completion to get into position to score) then just flop over
- main point from this rant : why go away from what is working?
Not sure about the majority of what you are talking about, but to answer what you said early on, no. Some of the guys I played with in high school and worked out with all the way up to and during their pro days. Some of the guys were just lined up next to me my freshman and sophmore years in college. All of them I still keep in contact with and I still workout with a few of them in the offseason. I'm not basing my opinion off of guys I kinda sorta knew 10 years ago these are good friends of mine.
Old Bay
September-22nd-2009, 12:40 PM
I understand why this is/should be a big deal, but I'm just not that upset by it. I think he was dumb for saying it, but I'm not offended. Perhaps if I worked at McDonalds or he targeted what I do for a living I'd be more upset, I honestly don't really know.
I understand him being upset, too. Taking a shot at the fan base isn't smart, though. However, there is a lot of pent up frustration that is being unleashed there. Some of it is probably from this coaches tenure, but a lot of it is stemming from 1993 as well. So all those boos are being heaped upon this team, with these players. Is that totally fair? No, not really. That being said, Zorn needs to call a better game, and for that I can justify the boos. It just seems like there's a lot more to all of this than just a 9-7 game against the Rams.
MassSkinsFan
September-22nd-2009, 12:40 PM
I don't have an issue with Henson being upset with the boos - some players take it more personally than others, and anyone with enough maturity will receive it with thick skin, and focus on the tasks at hand (improving week to week).
It's his remark about the fanbase being dim wits, and his statement about McDonald's that got my goat. He implies that people who work food service are inferior to him and his teammates/coaches. That my friends is a stereotype. He implies that those who booed are also inferior to him, and that many of them are probably working food service because of their inferiority. That's insulting.
His apology was not handled well either. However, he did apologize, and I commend him for that.
Now, the argument that professional athletes are somehow better, more important, or smarter than "the great unwashed" is the real dimwitted notion. No matter how hard these guys work, they're not chained to a desk, and they're likely making way more than someone who is. Also, a lot of their work occurs in a very non-traditional work environment that is conducive to good health.
I only played college ball for one year, but I'll tell you something, I'd be more than happy to have put in 16 hour days doing that compared to working 10 to 12 hour days in my current line of work if I knew it would result in an NFL career. And by the way, I like my job!
Before I settled down, I spent years as a pro musician. Contrary to popular belief, that is hard work. Lots of time is spent practicing alone or with your band(s), reviewing performance (listening to or viewing past shows to find/correct problems), writing, recording, traveling, waiting, playing, etc. It's kind of like spending anywhere between 4 to 16 hours a day working your ass off just to experience 1 to 3 hours of incredibly intense fun. None of the bands I played in ever got big, so compound that all with traveling in ****ty vehicles, with not much space. If you've never toured Europe for 6 weeks with a 7 member band in a minivan seating 5 (plus all your equipment) you haven't lived!
My point is, despite all the sacrifices I made, which included career potential, health, time, relationships, etc., etc., at the end of the day when I was sitting in the van rolling down the interstate on a Tuesday morning (hungover), looking at red-faced commuters stuck in traffic, I always thought how lucky I was to be out on tour, heading to the next city and show, and not stuck in the car behind one of them.
This young man needs to think how lucky he is to represent the Redskins before he goes off again.
Lombardi's_kid_brother
September-22nd-2009, 01:30 PM
No it's not. There are just as many slackers at any other work place getting overpaid. Some of you might be that overpaid slacker. With any proffesion there are some people who bust there butt to get to the top and some people who get lucky. Only in the NFL if you are one of those slackers you will get exposed QUICKLY. People are just going off of stereotypes that they see on tv. The party animal life is all fun athlete. Like I said I have multiple former teammates in the league, some of them close friends because they played in the secondary with me, and this perception that you all have is not correct.
You've convinced me.
Athletes are better people than the rest of us.
SKOALSKIN
September-22nd-2009, 01:36 PM
You've never played football clearly. Their job is to workout? Lol working out after you've ran full speed into other grown men all day. Working out with fractured bones, concussions, contusions. This is hardly checkers. The mental and physical demand is crazy.
You are out of your element.
HAHAH you must be referring to some of the greats in the NFL (AP, Larry Fitz, Polomalu, Ray Lewis). Because we have nothing but lazy ass slackers on this team. Yes I've played and it is an intense game. But they have nothing else but football on their plates right now. All they have to do is eat, work out, practice and collect checks. Now the coaches on the other hand. They are the ones putting in 12-14 hr days.
This guy Henson is a no talent piece of ****. I will be suprised if he makes it through the season. Then it's back to mcdonalds for the Dim Wit Superstar from Texas.
essex03
September-22nd-2009, 01:42 PM
He's also on Redskins.com, apologizing in an interview with Larry Michael, taped at 11:00pm last night.
First link on redskins.com video gallery.
I'm listening now. If there was an Emmy award for Smarminess, Larry Michael would be a perennial winner:
Michael: "It makes me proud to be a member of this organization, folks, to be able to be here for a young man like this, who wanted to speak with the Redskins fans directly, after seeing what would be published and after going through what he would be going through the last 24 hours, and in fact he also told me after the Tweet that [turns to Henson] one of your first jobs was at McDonald's, so some of what you said obviously was passion because of the way that game unfolded, and because, obviously, coming off the field, the Redskins would have wished to have scored more points, it was a tough environment, but fortunately you guys did win the ballgame, but what you did was a mistake [thrusts the mic into Henson's face]. :rolleyes:
Oh please! Larry's an ass. Plain and simple. What you don't see is the group of PR people just off camera making sure Larry is reading the teleprompter to a "T" for a perfect spin on the situation...
And Henson is a full-fledged idiot. There is no spin that can fix that. Dummies.
SKOALSKIN
September-22nd-2009, 01:50 PM
"No I didn't play but I still made more than you in a year and you'd [gladly] switch spots with me in a second. I was talking to the fans [who] said the crazy stuff, I'm use [to heckling] but I've never been booed in my own stadium. Again that was for the half hearted but if everyone wants to jump in come on. The question is who are you to say you know what's best for the team and you work 9 to 5 at Mcdonalds"
The full quote is beyond obsurd. This guy is clearly an *******. He's a benchwarming practice player that think's he's a millionaire because he made the inactive 53. The sad truth is he will be out of the league in a year and will have blown the majority of that paltry rookie 6th round salary. So stay tuned for Hensons next tweet in 2012 "do you want fries with that?"
Ohh an Larry Michael wears snyders Murkin as a toupe !
C26 Run
September-22nd-2009, 01:53 PM
On Mike and Mike, Greenys' rant was priceless. I wish I could download it as a ringtone. :helmet:
mcpingist
September-22nd-2009, 03:44 PM
It's the interwebz dood - see your bolded mistake! ;) ...just sayin' - no offense intended. :)
Nice catch. I'd give you a touche' except you missed my point. I wasn't the one calling people dim wits; he was. If you do that, get it right.
JetSkins
September-22nd-2009, 03:45 PM
this made it on front page ESPN.com?
MassSkinsFan
September-22nd-2009, 03:48 PM
Nice catch. I'd give you a touche' except you missed my point. I wasn't the one calling people dim wits; he was. If you do that, get it right.
I did get your point, and you're right about that. My point, as much as it pains me to make it, is that punctuation, spelling, etc., are not important on the internet. It's a shame because you're taking an already somewhat hard to interpret means of communication (writing) and making it tougher by ignoring those things listed above that are meant to clarify it.
Oh well, that's how it goes.
IrepDC
September-22nd-2009, 03:56 PM
You've convinced me.
Athletes are better people than the rest of us.
That wasn't even the conversation. Never did I even say anything close to that. Lame comeback.
BigMike21
September-22nd-2009, 03:57 PM
On Mike and Mike, Greenys' rant was priceless. I wish I could download it as a ringtone. :helmet:
link?
SAli457180
September-22nd-2009, 04:00 PM
who cares what he says he'll be out of the league in three years begging for a job at mcdonalds
Forget three years, if they find a capable OL, his head will be the first on the chopping block.
BigMike21
September-22nd-2009, 04:00 PM
http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=4493889
MustangSteve
September-22nd-2009, 06:25 PM
To hell with you rookie, we are the reason you even have a paycheck!!!
703Skins
September-23rd-2009, 07:57 AM
Only in the NFL if you are one of those slackers you will get exposed QUICKLY.
After they already got a free ride throughout college and a huge contract. Awesome. You should just give it up dude. Its you vs everyone else with common sense. I dont think you are going to convince hard working men with 9-5 jobs that Football players have a horrible, long and sacrificing jobs thats so much harder then everyone else that they get paid millions of dollars to do.
Reaganaut
September-23rd-2009, 10:54 PM
The Skins should make him work Johnny Rockets during games for the rest of the season. Sad, but it's all about the money after all isn't it?
SoulRebel
September-23rd-2009, 11:39 PM
It's now on drudge report on the bottom left. if it was just contained to the sports world would be one thing but now its out there and it will be an even bigger distraction.
the story they link is from the nyc cbs station: http://wcbstv.com/sports/twitter.nfl.tweets.2.1203110.html
IrepDC
September-23rd-2009, 11:41 PM
After they already got a free ride throughout college and a huge contract. Awesome. You should just give it up dude. Its you vs everyone else with common sense. I dont think you are going to convince hard working men with 9-5 jobs that Football players have a horrible, long and sacrificing jobs thats so much harder then everyone else that they get paid millions of dollars to do.
Another person jumping in who doesn't even understand the original conversation. Here is what I was responding to in the bold.
There is nothing wrong with working at McDonald's (I don't). But, some people actually have to work for a living, and weren't blessed with athletic ability which allows certain people to play a sport (or stand on the sidelines, without dressing) for a living. What an *******.
I never said anything about football players having it harder I was simply pointing out that in no way is it easy to get into or stay in the NFL. THAT should be common sense.
Tin Man
September-24th-2009, 03:26 PM
Precisely!
Hey ... You ghetto kid, get your act together before you call out the Skin fans. They will hand you your arse in no time, and have you sitting curbside as to what happened to your non-existant NFL career.
There were good reasons why you were picked in the 6th round, and some folks even questioned that.
You are a rookie and need to know your place. You are a disgrace to the Skins and the fans alike.
Your apology is a JOKE, and is NOT ACCEPTED. Go piss off! :mad:
Man, get real - ghetto kid? Now that's funny. So, in your eyes, this young dude gets to be a good-for-nothing, shoulda-been nothing, lowlife with too much money in his pockets; and all because he has some pride about himself and showed that he's got a ways to go in his maturation process? GTFOH! Just because you buy a ticket which pays a salary doesn't mean that you OWN a MAN.
"Know your place"? And where would that be Mr. Kind Sir?
The man apologized, but that's still not good enough. I don't think that he gives a F#*! about you accepting it or not - I wouldn't, my Pop wouldn't, and my son won't.
Now, in your defense, maybe you had a bad day and twittered some BullSh!t... just like Henson.
alwrld
September-24th-2009, 05:11 PM
I'm all for forgiveness, but i'm not sure how he's going to live this down. One thing you don't do is verbally attack your own fans...Big, big, no no.
Why not?
Fans verbally attack players 24/7.
Why can't a player speak back?
BigMike21
September-24th-2009, 06:41 PM
Why not?
Fans verbally attack players 24/7.
Why can't a player speak back?
Because the player is paid my money funneled from the fan and must be held to a higher stansard.
703Skins
September-25th-2009, 08:10 AM
Why not?
Fans verbally attack players 24/7.
Why can't a player speak back?
Because they are professional athletes. The fans pay their salary and they are supposed to act like professionals. Kids look up to these guys and they are supposed to be a good influence, it comes with the life of a celebrity. Would you talk back to your boss at work? No, you'd get fired.
Thiebear
September-25th-2009, 08:23 AM
I've been cheering and booing for longer than he's been on this planet.
He was riding the bench and clean as the driven snow..
Don't lecture me whippersnapper.
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