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Lar0n Landry
September-27th-2009, 11:11 PM
coming into this game i thought Carlos Rogers was one of the better cover corners in the NFC east if not the entire NFL. but after seeing him get abused by not only Calvin Johsnon but Antonio Bryant as well i am not so sure.

was this just a fluke game for him or are is his coverage skills not as polished as some may have though?

spjunkies
September-27th-2009, 11:12 PM
It was the other Johnson who did the destroying today not Calvin.

ThePreciating
September-27th-2009, 11:14 PM
Carlos missed one coverage. Zorn gotta go. Players won't play for him. The end.

Santana_Fan
September-27th-2009, 11:14 PM
The TD pass that he caught on Rogers, I was pissed at it, but I wouldn't expect to see that happen much more.

terpskins10
September-27th-2009, 11:16 PM
Antonio Bryant? I thought we play the Bucs NEXT week. :D

skinsdomination09
September-27th-2009, 11:18 PM
Antonio Bryant? I thought we play the Bucs NEXT week. :D

So im not crazy... I was was like "wait, ANTONIO?!?"

Soup
September-27th-2009, 11:20 PM
Its blache, he's just not using the players right. The redskins have a good defense but blache thinks playing the CBs off the WR on 3rd down will work :doh:

The lions don't have the players that the redskins have and they basically murdered us.

Lar0n Landry
September-27th-2009, 11:24 PM
Antonio Bryant? I thought we play the Bucs NEXT week. :D


lol sorry i had a feeling i had the wrong name as i was posting it

i knew i had antonio or bryant right.

SirClintonPortis
September-27th-2009, 11:28 PM
Bryant Johnson was the fellow who grabbed that pass over Rogers. Size mismatch.

MEANDWARF
September-28th-2009, 12:28 AM
Rogers is not the only problem with this team.

Smurf85
September-28th-2009, 12:29 AM
coming into this game i thought Carlos Rogers was one of the better cover corners in the NFC east if not the entire NFL. but after seeing him get abused by not only Calvin Johsnon but Antonio Bryant as well i am not so sure.

was this just a fluke game for him or are is his coverage skills not as polished as some may have though?

Don't worry about it he won't be on the team next year anyway.

Justsomeguy
September-28th-2009, 12:33 AM
Carlos can play.
Blache just dosen't put players in a position to win and dosen't play to their strengths.

Spartacus87
September-28th-2009, 12:34 AM
Bryant Johnson's a pretty big guy, and made a good catch off of a good throw. Not a whole lot Rogers could have done on that.

I'd say Rogers is the least of our problems overall.

jkypoo
September-28th-2009, 12:34 AM
Is it weird that a user by the name of Lar0n Landry is worried about Carlos Rogers's performance?

:paranoid:

Smurf85
September-28th-2009, 12:34 AM
Carlos can play.
Blache just dosen't put players in a position to win and dosen't play to their strengths.

No Rogers is a scrub that is in it for the money. Just another player Snyder cuts a check to.

Smurf85
September-28th-2009, 12:35 AM
Bryant Johnson's a pretty big guy, and made a good catch off of a good throw. Not a whole lot Rogers could have done on that.

I'd say Rogers is the least of our problems overall.

No he's one of our many problems.

terpfan
September-28th-2009, 12:39 AM
Antonio Bryant? I thought we play the Bucs NEXT week. :D

I was worried that this was a post from the future or something... Awww, he gets burned AGAIN?

81artmonk
September-28th-2009, 12:50 AM
I've heard people praise him to which I just understand. I watch him EVERY week blow coverage, let his guy get open for critical 3rd down to 1st down coverage.

If he's so good, why does he almost always play off the WR? He seldom plays bump and run coverage. I can't count how many whiffed tackles he has along with Hall, as if they don't want to get hurt or something...pathetic!

Right now this season, Rogers and Hall are the two worst DB's in the league.

Spartacus87
September-28th-2009, 02:32 AM
No he's one of our many problems. Care to explain how? Or is this just general "sky is falling" nonsense?


I've heard people praise him to which I just understand. I watch him EVERY week blow coverage, let his guy get open for critical 3rd down to 1st down coverage.

If he's so good, why does he almost always play off the WR? He seldom plays bump and run coverage. I can't count how many whiffed tackles he has along with Hall, as if they don't want to get hurt or something...pathetic!

Right now this season, Rogers and Hall are the two worst DB's in the league. Yeah, because he chooses to play with that cushion. Despite the fact that's he our most physical corner. He's just a CB, he's not the defensive coordinator as well.

It's pretty clear you don't really watch the games that closely, and by your last statement, you don't know much about other teams in the NFL.

D-Day
September-28th-2009, 06:09 AM
Its blache, he's just not using the players right. The redskins have a good defense but blache thinks playing the CBs off the WR on 3rd down will work :doh:

The lions don't have the players that the redskins have and they basically murdered us.


We get outcoached every week.

Hail Gibbs
September-28th-2009, 06:20 AM
We get outcoached every week.

We also get out managed every year, leaving us with poor coaches, little depth and a bunch of individuals for players who have no accountability.

I think Hall is a bigger concern than Rogers considering the contract he just signed. Hall has never been as good as his hype.

Mursilis
September-28th-2009, 06:39 AM
coming into this game i thought Carlos Rogers was one of the better cover corners in the NFC east if not the entire NFL. but after seeing him get abused by not only Calvin Johsnon but Antonio Bryant as well i am not so sure.

was this just a fluke game for him or are is his coverage skills not as polished as some may have though?

Like nearly every player on this roster, Rogers is basically overrated. At least he's not as overrated as Hall though.

HigSkin
September-28th-2009, 06:44 AM
Rogers is one of those guys with lots of potential that will never be realized as a Redskin.

UK SKINS FAN '74
October-4th-2009, 03:26 PM
Today, Carlos gives up another TD, and drops an easy pick in our own red-zone.

Do you think this is good enough, even if the rest of his play during the game is solid ?

terpfan
October-4th-2009, 03:28 PM
The TD was a really good throw. He could have played it better, but it wasnt terrible.

That dropped INT was LOL bad though. A literally hands-less person could have caught that. It hit him in the chest. Unfortunately it doesnt look like that's a problem he's physically able to correct. Oh well.

Spartacus87
October-4th-2009, 03:36 PM
The TD was a really good throw. He could have played it better, but it wasnt terrible.

That dropped INT was LOL bad though. A literally hands-less person could have caught that. It hit him in the chest. Unfortunately it doesnt look like that's a problem he's physically able to correct. Oh well. If I had to take a guess, I'd say it was just a huge mental error.

By now he's so beat mentally that as soon as he sees a pass coming his way, even if it's right to his chest, he thinks too much and drops it.

He'll make a great read and play on the ball, jumping a route, looking All Pro all the way, then let the pick 6 slip through his hands. His instincts are great right up to the actual catch, then he falls apart.

There's got to be a sports psychologist out there that can help him.

Larry Brown #43
October-4th-2009, 03:36 PM
That dropped INT was LOL bad though. A literally hands-less person could have caught that. It hit him in the chest. Unfortunately it doesnt look like that's a problem he's physically able to correct. Oh well.

Yeah, it's past the point of being correctable. It's too bad, because often times its a potential pick-6 he drops. A dropped pick-6 is a 14-point swing if the other team scores a TD on the drive. It's a serious problem.

Mooka
October-4th-2009, 03:37 PM
I would expect the water boy to catch the ball if it hit him in the chest.


Carlos is a solid corner, but for CRIPES SAKE CATCH THE DAMN BALL! I don't know how you balance solid play with anti-playmaking ability.

airs0ft3r
October-4th-2009, 03:39 PM
I would expect the water boy to catch the ball if it hit him in the chest.


Carlos is a solid corner, but for CRIPES SAKE CATCH THE DAMN BALL! I don't know how you balance solid play with anti-playmaking ability.

I laughed hard. That's a beautiful way to describe it.

Mickalino
October-4th-2009, 03:42 PM
The TD was a really good throw. He could have played it better, but it wasnt terrible.

That dropped INT was LOL bad though. A literally hands-less person could have caught that. It hit him in the chest. Unfortunately it doesnt look like that's a problem he's physically able to correct. Oh well.

That would have been an easy 6, if he makes that catch.

And if we lose the game - there'd be a lot more fingers pointed at him.

JGordon_3
October-4th-2009, 03:45 PM
All the idiotic Carlos Rogers supporters obviously don't watch football. Dude gets torched every week and makes no plays. Hall isn't great either but at least he makes plays.

CB has to be high on our priority list this offseason, right after offensive line.

kobra860
October-4th-2009, 03:54 PM
When is he going to learn how to catch?! He dropped another sure interception. This is beyond ridiculous.

skin_finatic
October-4th-2009, 04:06 PM
All the idiotic Carlos Rogers supporters obviously don't watch football. Dude gets torched every week and makes no plays. Hall isn't great either but at least he makes plays.

CB has to be high on our priority list this offseason, right after offensive line.

Torched every week??? He gave up a fricken 9 yard td pass which was a perfect pass, almost no corner in the league coulda defended that. His drops do drive me crazy though, but all in all he still is a great cover/tackling corner

dexter's manley
October-4th-2009, 04:10 PM
Rogers is terrible. Case closed

MonkFan8
October-4th-2009, 04:11 PM
He absolutely must learn to catch. It's embarrassing. That and he should also stop celebrating when the receiver flat out drops the ball on a crucial third down like he did anything to stop it. That's embarrassing as well.

kubstix
October-4th-2009, 04:45 PM
Goto love the delusional fans. Carlos Rogers and Dhall are both garbage cause they each gave up TD's already in the season. When can we finally find a shutdown corner who doesn't give up one TD his entire career as a Redskin? Im sick of this garbage. Asante Samuel sucks too because he gave up a TD or 2 so far this season.

gkekoa
October-4th-2009, 04:52 PM
The two plays that you guys are mentioning were great catches and throws.

The Bryant Johnson catch, LOS was right there but Johnson had to much size and Stafford gave Johnson a chance, unlike when JC throws those passes.

The pass to Antonio Bryant, LOS was right there in coverage but the pass was perfect.

Sometimes...good offense just beat good defense.

AAARedskin
October-4th-2009, 05:01 PM
Ol' Stone Hands can disappoint from time to time, but Carlos Rogers is ultimately an asset. He has wonderful size for a DB, and he is far more of a steady and decent player than he is a "liability."

genesys
October-4th-2009, 05:01 PM
Carlos missed one coverage. Zorn gotta go. Players won't play for him. The end.

Both the Auburn players Jason Campbell and Carlos Rogers are subpar players.

Carlos also dropped an interception.

kubstix
October-4th-2009, 05:04 PM
Both the Auburn players Jason Campbell and Carlos Rogers are subpar players.

Carlos also dropped an interception.

Which is the same reason Carlos Rogers doesn't play WR.

Skins6381
October-4th-2009, 05:16 PM
Chad Dukes Cell# <eidted; member perma banned for spamming>

veteranskinsfan
October-4th-2009, 05:27 PM
All the idiotic Carlos Rogers supporters obviously don't watch football. Dude gets torched every week and makes no plays. Hall isn't great either but at least he makes plays.

CB has to be high on our priority list this offseason, right after offensive line.
I agree with you completely. Rogers is not going to be a premier cornerback in this league. He is far too inconsistent. In the off season go find a good corner and if he wants to stay with the Skins let him go in on 3rd down to cover their weakest receiver. Do not under any circumstances give him a new contract. Teams will continue to attack him this season. Glad this thread was started today for sure.

Spartacus87
October-4th-2009, 05:44 PM
I agree with you completely. Rogers is not going to be a premier cornerback in this league. He is far too inconsistent. In the off season go find a good corner and if he wants to stay with the Skins let him go in on 3rd down to cover their weakest receiver. Do not under any circumstances give him a new contract. Teams will continue to attack him this season. Glad this thread was started today for sure. God, do people even read threads or read anything here before they just make their own new threads or respond to whatever they liked on the last page of a thread?

This thread wasn't even created today, it was from a week ago, and dropping an INT isn't what defines him as being stuck "going in on 3rd down to cover their weakest receiver."


That would have been an easy 6, if he makes that catch.

And if we lose the game - there'd be a lot more fingers pointed at him. Ignorant fingers, sure.

Because dropping a potential pick 6 would excuse the 3 INTs Campbell threw, including the near game changer in the 4th quarter. :doh:

veteranskinsfan
October-4th-2009, 06:16 PM
Concern about Carlos Rogers:

Hey Spartacus 87- Does Mister Rogers getting beat badly on the first touchdown count as poor coverage today? Or do you want to nominate him for the Pro Bowl this season based on his performance in the first 4 games of the season?

Leonard Washington
October-4th-2009, 06:17 PM
Chad Dukes Cell# <eidted; member perma banned for spamming>

why would someone call chad dukes?

stafbrad
October-4th-2009, 06:18 PM
CONCERNED!?!?!? I'm TERRIFIED! He gets burned every game and his hands continue to impress...the other team! Give me Barnes.

icbmayday
October-4th-2009, 06:21 PM
He still can't catch interceptions

Probos
October-4th-2009, 06:24 PM
He stinks. I can't believe he was the 9th pick in the draft in 2005. Terrible pick.

Bust.

seanyt
October-4th-2009, 06:26 PM
coming into this game i thought Carlos Rogers was one of the better cover corners in the NFC east if not the entire NFL. but after seeing him get abused by not only Calvin Johsnon but Antonio Bryant as well i am not so sure.

was this just a fluke game for him or are is his coverage skills not as polished as some may have though?

There's only one solution to this. Move the coffee table a little further back and outa the way so you dont trip and knock the burgundy shaded glasses off again!!! I guess you saw the real Carlos today!!!

abdcskins
October-4th-2009, 06:38 PM
How many interceptions has Carlos dropped in his career? I guess 24.

Coverage skills are adequate, which is not saying much. He's okay.

genesys
October-4th-2009, 06:52 PM
No Rogers is a scrub that is in it for the money. Just another player Snyder cuts a check to.


Compare him to Champ Bailey ... the guy he was supposed to replace. Champ = 8 probowls. Carlos =??

Does anyone need to say anything more. Carlos is a liability on the field. Slow to react, doesn't have great catch up speed, worst hands in the NFL, and gets beat on deep ball.

refhaf4L
October-4th-2009, 06:54 PM
Carlos should not be an every down corner...he's got awful hands..Awful! Today he dropped one that would have gone the other way for 6. the guy is a joke...

Smurf85
October-4th-2009, 06:59 PM
Compare him to Champ Bailey ... the guy he was supposed to replace. Champ = 8 probowls. Carlos =??

Does anyone need to say anything more. Carlos is a liability on the field. Slow to react, doesn't have great catch up speed, worst hands in the NFL, and gets beat on deep ball.

Yep that says it all he won't be resigned. Than again Snyder is a jackass so maybe he will resign him.

holmester
October-4th-2009, 07:05 PM
Hes had a rough stretch in terms of his 1-on-1 coverage but he is still a good cornerback. Hopefully he will get it turned around soon and get a int because he seems to be one of those players whose confidence is easily shaken. Last thing we need is for him to go into a slump like he did last year. He did have that great play on the bubble screen where he blew up the WR.

Dallascrushers
October-4th-2009, 07:11 PM
people you guys are killing me....blache is the issue of course it is in every other damn posting...that is understood...rogers had one bad play in coverage and yes it let up a td but he is our best cover corner...and oh yeah landry missed yet again another huge tackle leading with your head will only get you hurt or burnnnnnnnnnnnnnnntttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttt ttttt like today at fed ex fielllllldddddddddddd

Dallascrushers
October-4th-2009, 07:12 PM
yea and rogers did drop a pick 6 don't forget that though...but still think he is the best db on our team

haithman
October-4th-2009, 07:12 PM
Wait. What made you think he was one of the BEST in the NFL?

Dallascrushers
October-4th-2009, 07:23 PM
I never said best in the nfl...i said best on OUR team

haithman
October-4th-2009, 07:25 PM
Ok. How is he even one of the better corners in the NFL? Seriously I've seen nothing to prove it. He really is nothing special and probably not even the best on our team.

Probos
October-4th-2009, 07:27 PM
yea and rogers did drop a pick 6 don't forget that though...but still think he is the best db on our team

If that's true the Skins secondary REALLY sucks.

skins island connection
October-4th-2009, 07:52 PM
Bryant Johnson was the fellow who grabbed that pass over Rogers. Size mismatch.

SO I guess the headline tomorrow will read "Johnson too big for Rogers to handle"...:silly:

Spartacus87
October-4th-2009, 07:53 PM
Concern about Carlos Rogers:

Hey Spartacus 87- Does Mister Rogers getting beat badly on the first touchdown count as poor coverage today? Or do you want to nominate him for the Pro Bowl this season based on his performance in the first 4 games of the season? Bryant ran a great route in the endzone, and Carlos was in man coverage. That's a really difficult route (and good throw from Johnson) to defend in that situation.

But don't let your agenda get in the way of being realistic.


Compare him to Champ Bailey ... the guy he was supposed to replace. Champ = 8 probowls. Carlos =??

Does anyone need to say anything more. Carlos is a liability on the field. Slow to react, doesn't have great catch up speed, worst hands in the NFL, and gets beat on deep ball. Carlos didn't replace Champ.

Shawn Springs did. Unless you mean "replaced" as in, we drafted him, like we drafted Champ. Which is a dumb argument to make.

sempre_victrix
October-4th-2009, 07:53 PM
Hands of stone.

skins island connection
October-4th-2009, 08:03 PM
The TD pass caught on him ; I think he had pretty good coverage, but he bit on the inside route, and Bryant went outside, but he tried on that one, and it was a good throw as well, almost unable to cover.
But the sure pic-6 he had in his hands and dropped is inexcusable; they should make him stand in front of a qb and do nothing but catch, or try to catch balls from him. He is always dropping balls; last year, he dropped so many that were easy picks, and I hoped that this problem would have been corrected, but I guess not..

veteranskinsfan
October-4th-2009, 08:05 PM
Spartacus 87 - I am responding to your last post.
We know that Carlos was in man coverage- its called taking responsibility for your one on one coverage and not saying as an excuse- "well my opponent just ran a great route on that play and the quarterback made a great throw". If Carlos had made a good play I would defend him but you defend him when he has poor coverage. So who has the agenda issue? This is one reason why our defensive coach last week felt he had to take the full blame for the loss. If he blitzes more often then he will have to leave Carlos exposed on his side of the field on certain plays. Maybe he should just call corner blitzes so Carlos can try to get the quarterback instead.

steve09ru
October-4th-2009, 08:07 PM
obviously the guy is not too shabby...gets burned all the time? - here's some with facts to actually bring to the pointless opinions without facts

ranked #8 cb last year
http://www.extremeskins.com/showthread.php?t=279958&highlight=carlos+rogers

top 10 cb last year
http://www.extremeskins.com/showthread.php?t=279274&highlight=carlos+rogers

Spartacus87
October-4th-2009, 08:18 PM
Spartacus 87 - I am responding to your last post.
We know that Carlos was in man coverage- its called taking responsibility for your one on one coverage and not saying as an excuse- "well my opponent just ran a great route on that play and the quarterback made a great throw". If Carlos had made a good play I would defend him but you defend him when he has poor coverage. So who has the agenda issue? This is one reason why our defensive coach last week felt he had to take the full blame for the loss. If he blitzes more often then he will have to leave Carlos exposed on his side of the field on certain plays. Maybe he should just call corner blitzes so Carlos can try to get the quarterback instead. Because even in the NFL, sometimes DBs get beat on a combination of good routes/good passes. Especially if they're in man coverage and it's that shallow of a route, which leaves virtually no room for error at all. Corners get beat for catches and TDs. It happens. I saw the great Nnamdi Asomugha get beat on a short route by Vincent Jackson for a TD at the start of the season.

Carlos bit a little too hard on the inside move, but that's part of what makes that pass/route work.

When else was Carlos' name even called today? The missed pick (which again, he read to try to make the play on very well) and leveling Bryant in open space before he could even catch the ball fully.


The TD pass caught on him ; I think he had pretty good coverage, but he bit on the inside route, and Bryant went outside, but he tried on that one, and it was a good throw as well, almost unable to cover.
But the sure pic-6 he had in his hands and dropped is inexcusable; they should make him stand in front of a qb and do nothing but catch, or try to catch balls from him. He is always dropping balls; last year, he dropped so many that were easy picks, and I hoped that this problem would have been corrected, but I guess not.. I really think it's psychological.

He could have someone throw footballs at him all day and it wouldn't make a difference. It's the game time stress factor that he can't practice, and that beats him every time.

Smoot Point Really
October-4th-2009, 08:31 PM
There has been a running debate on this topic for about 4 years... I'm curious what NC21 says on this. When Gregg W was DC, Carlos was dubbed "the cushion" for good reason. I'm inclined to allow that his current cushion is a matter of scheme... Not when GW was here though. Springs always was within 5-7 yards at most. Football Scientist showed Carlos' cushion was more generous than anyone else in the league one year. However, this year does seem a bit more scheme than past years.

As for his hands... The fact he can't catch makes the plays he misses on that much more obvious. It's not just his hands... It's his ball skills in the verticle game. When the ball is in the air, Carlos loses it. His coverage is fine in the short-medium range. His tackling is decent for a CB. He isn't a playmaker. He will never make a Pro Bowl.

No Excuses
October-4th-2009, 08:38 PM
He's not a great shutdown guy but he does a good job of keeping his man (usually the #1 receiver) in check for pretty much the entire game.

His hands are another topic. Dude might be the worst corner in the history of this sport when it comes to catching.

Smoot Point Really
October-5th-2009, 03:40 AM
He's not a great shutdown guy but he does a good job of keeping his man (usually the #1 receiver) in check for pretty much the entire game.

His hands are another topic. Dude might be the worst corner in the history of this sport when it comes to catching.

I see him covering the #1 guy when that guy happens to line up on the left... I hear fans make this claim to excuse his performance. Shawn Springs was our best corner prior to this season and Hall is our best corner now.

G.A.C.O.L.B.
October-5th-2009, 03:49 AM
Bryant ran a great route in the endzone, and Carlos was in man coverage. That's a really difficult route (and good throw from Johnson) to defend in that situation.

I'm with you. That TD pass was just one of those things where the QB made a brilliant throw and there wasn't much that could be done.

Far as the dropped pick goes, I think that's just a reality that we're going to have to live with. Some funny Skins-lore to tell the kids about one day.

I still think he's a good CB though.

veteranskinsfan
October-5th-2009, 09:59 AM
Steve09ru- Unfortunately stats never quite tell the whole story about the true performance of many NFL players. Every year Carlos drops interceptions. Do they keep that stat? Ever heard the phrase that you can make statistics tell any story you want to tell? Here is an example of Kyle Boller and Jamarcus Russell from yesterday. They were comparable. Kyle had a 48.6 passer rating and Jamarcus earned a 48.5 passer rating. I think in the first half JC had a slightly higher passer rating. Now most GM's would say they would not any of these 3 on their team. Look past the numbers and focus on results. What is the final score, did someone make a play like Hall did or did someone not make a play like Rogers did.

Botched
October-5th-2009, 10:27 AM
I just wish Rogers and Hall would be good on the same day for once. Seems like every time one plays well, the other takes the day off.


obviously the guy is not too shabby...gets burned all the time? - here's some with facts to actually bring to the pointless opinions without facts

ranked #8 cb last year
http://www.extremeskins.com/showthread.php?t=279958&highlight=carlos+rogers

top 10 cb last year
http://www.extremeskins.com/showthread.php?t=279274&highlight=carlos+rogers

I'm pretty sure those rankings are one person's opinion. I know the first one is. In fact, on the first guy's full list, he has Rogers ranked far above several guys who allowed fewer TDs and had more INTs last year.

I think Rogers has been overrated on this site. He was horrific in his first couple years, and had some good stretches in 07 and 08. Not terrible, not great, IMO, he's average. He has never been "elite" or "shutdown" as some have suggested, and his dropped INTs are beyond ridiculous. He is a pretty good tackler and plays best near the line of scrimmage. That's good, but not what a first round CB should be.

Probos
October-5th-2009, 11:01 AM
I'm with you. That TD pass was just one of those things where the QB made a brilliant throw and there wasn't much that could be done.

Far as the dropped pick goes, I think that's just a reality that we're going to have to live with. Some funny Skins-lore to tell the kids about one day.

I still think he's a good CB though.

Whatever,...excuses, excuses. He stinks.

He was the 9th pick overall in the 2005 draft. Me thinks he was definitely NOT worth that pick.

The Skins passed on DeMarcus Ware and Shawne Merriman - holy hell. :doh:

jivelikenice
October-5th-2009, 11:46 AM
Well Merriman looks like he might be finished but you're right, bad pick. The drops ints are absolutely a joke at this point. His dropped int lead to a 10-pt swinog yesterday as we had a clear path with a block or two to score if he held onto the ball.

For all the abuse Hall has taken, he looked pretty good against Calvin Johnson and this past week against Tampa and he does get his hands on the ball. It may not always be pretty but he'll end this season with 6-8 picks.

SB17
October-5th-2009, 12:09 PM
Anyone who thinks Mr. Rogers is above average, please tell me what you think the Redskins could get for him in a trade (i.e., for another player or for a draft pick).

Dropped picks which are GIFTS (the kind my 8-yr. old could catch) are absolutely I N E X C U S A B L E . As the poster above me mentioned, in yesterday's game, it was a 10-point swing.

Does anyone remember Game 1 this year when he dropped a sure pick against the Giants? They went on and scored a TD, and 6 points was the difference in the score of the game. How about last year against the Steelers (when we were still in the game)? He dropped a sure pick 6.

It may be overstating the obvious, but: Picks kill drives.

tone_dubbz
October-5th-2009, 12:31 PM
Anyone who thinks Mr. Rogers is above average, please tell me what you think the Redskins could get for him in a trade (i.e., for another player or for a draft pick).

Dropped picks which are GIFTS (the kind my 8-yr. old could catch) are absolutely I N E X C U S A B L E . As the poster above me mentioned, in yesterday's game, it was a 10-point swing.

Does anyone remember Game 1 this year when he dropped a sure pick against the Giants? They went on and scored a TD, and 6 points was the difference in the score of the game. How about last year against the Steelers (when we were still in the game)? He dropped a sure pick 6.

It may be overstating the obvious, but: Picks kill drives.

Johnson threw the ball at worse place possible for Rogers, in his HANDS!!!:doh:

I would think Rogers would be playing his ass off and making plays so he can get paid.

Spartacus87
October-5th-2009, 02:38 PM
Whatever,...excuses, excuses. He stinks.

He was the 9th pick overall in the 2005 draft. Me thinks he was definitely NOT worth that pick.

The Skins passed on DeMarcus Ware and Shawne Merriman - holy hell. :doh: He's arguably the best corner from that entire draft.

And the Skins play a 4-3 defense, if you didn't know.

Merriman and Ware are 3-4 rushing OLBs.

madredskinsfan
October-5th-2009, 04:03 PM
Coach Jim "I see an upside to a sinkhole" Zorn keeps saying 'its the little things we need to work and correct to get better". Well, Carlos Roger's penchant for dropping sure fire INTs since he started playing here is more than a 'little thing'. It is a major problem that the coaching staff doesn't seem interested in fixing. If someone keeps fumbling the ball, you make that person carry the pigskin 24/7. If Rogers doesn't seem to be able to hold on to INTs, then have everyone on the team (players, coaches, ballboys, trainers, cooks, etc.) throw balls at him 24/7. For each one he drops, he gets fined $100. At the rate he drops balls , he'll be out thousands in no time. But then again, maybe he'll learn a simple basic task of football in the process.....hold on to the darn ball!

InsaneBoost
October-5th-2009, 04:23 PM
I remember him complaining on Redskins Nation about the fans booing and I laughed when he dropped the for sure pick 6 simply because of his complaining.

Why complain when you cant even catch a ball thrown right at you.

ThePreciating
October-5th-2009, 04:49 PM
coming into this game i thought Carlos Rogers was one of the better cover corners in the NFC east if not the entire NFL. but after seeing him get abused by not only Calvin Johsnon but Antonio Bryant as well i am not so sure.

was this just a fluke game for him or are is his coverage skills not as polished as some may have though?

Abused by Antonio Bryant? What game did you watch?

His coverage skills are fine. You don't put your defense backed up on the 10 yard line to start the game.

There are maybe three corners in the LEAGUE that I would trade Carlos for. He can't catch, but he's an elite man cover corner. I said it. ELITE man cover corner. If you don't agree, you've been missing the games. If he could catch, the dude would be Champ Bailey.