STOP! DO NOT Start that thread until you read this...

[zoony]

This forum is being spammed with too many threads. And quite frankly, that wouldn't be a bad thing if the threads were interesting, thought provoking, well thought out, and promoting discussion. But they're not. Just look at the first page.

So, a little rules review.

1. Be sure to use an accurate thread title. Per forum rules. Thread titles should not be in a "click on link to find out format". For instance, this is an example of a bad thread title:
"Main problem with Redskins...."
good thread title:
"The offensive line is the heart of the offensive problem"

Also, ALL articles posted should have the source followed by the title of the article. Example of bad thread title:
"Mike Wise says Redskins Suck"
good thread title:
"WP: Redskins Suck (Mike Wise article)"


2. Use the search feature. This is not an option or a recommendation, it is a requirement to start a new thread. I have seen dozens of redundant threads being started over the past 24 hours. It is pushing discussion off the front page.


3. Above all, please be interesting. Contrary to what some might think, the majority of opinions are really not that original. They can very easily be placed in an existing thread. You will be respected much more for it, trust me. Some of the best posters on ES rarely start threads. You know who you are. :)



I see a thread about tipping point on the front page. Well, the fanbase isn't the only thing at its tipping point. This board is at a tipping point too.

So before you click that New Thread button, be sure... extra sure... that the topic has not already been posted, that your premise is interesting, and that your thread title is properly formatted.

This is not a recommendation, this is a requirement.

Starting immediately, any threads that do not meet board criteria are going to be locked and the thread starter is going to be banned.

This is a position that the staff does not enjoy taking in the least, but in the best interest of extremeskins.com, we will do what needs to be done.

[Rdskn4Lyf21]

The Great ES Cleansing has begun!

Farewell to you all who cannot resist the shiny "New Thread" button and follow the aforementioned rules :ciao:

[Rocky21]

I'm ready. Let the cleansing begin!

[tshile]

good.

the bannings will be seen as some sort of snyderesque control on the fanbase.


but this is needed, it has been ridiculous around here since the giants game.

[zoony]

The Great ES Cleansing has begun!

Farewell to you all who cannot resist the shiny "New Thread" button and follow the aforementioned rules :ciao:



I hope not. I hope we don't ban anyone. I hope instead folks read this and the problem is resolved.

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[zoony]

the bannings will be seen as some sort of snyderesque control on the fanbase.




naaah, never happen

/sarcasm

[D'KanSkinFan]

Thank you,

and my Smartphone thanks you.....never heard my twitter ES "motto" go off so much;). The button is about wore out pushing.......DELETE...:silly:

[Rdskn4Lyf21]

I hope not. I hope we don't ban anyone. I hope instead folks read this and the problem is resolved.

....

That would be great because it would help you guys and stop cluttering the board. Here's hoping :fingersx:

[Yeen80]

It needed to be said. I also noticed a handful of similar posts over the past few days

[Toe Jam]

Booo.

This thread sucks.

[Mark The Homer]

If you've been a member less than a year, you might take a look at this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T6BTcEwtmZo

[Hardcore Zornography]

3. Above all, please be interesting. Contrary to what some might think, the majority of opinions are really not that original. They can very easily be placed in an existing thread. You will be respected much more for it, trust me. Some of the best posters on ES rarely start threads. You know who you are. :)


That means a lot coming from you, zoony.

[Lombardi's_kid_brother]

Isn't this thread just a repeat of what MTH said yesterday? I feel like someone didn't use the search feature.

(I kid, I kid. Besides, Zorny would never ban me. I'm a mod's pet. And I am usually interesting, I think).

Hey...has anyone started a thread about how Zorn's playcalling may be problematic? If not, I've got a great idea.

[zoony]

Yes LKB, you being interesting is the only thing that saves you.

It ain't your personality, which is a total pain in the ass :silly:


(in all seriousness LKB and Oldfan and SHF and bulldog, etc. are very interesting posters and thread starters, whether you agree or disagree with them)

.....

[Lombardi's_kid_brother]

I like to go with "Hate me or loathe me, you can't ignore me."

And let's be honest, Oldfan was a good poster until about three months ago when he apparently had a stroke. (I hope he sees this).

[Monte51Coleman]

I just clicked on the button to start a new thread and

[zoony]

I like to go with "Hate me or loathe me, you can't ignore me."

And let's be honest, Oldfan was a good poster until about three months ago when he apparently had a stroke. (I hope he sees this).


I worry about Oldfan. He's not batting very well this season... which is to say, he's striking out.

But he's still interesting, and that's why I'm worried. Hope he doesn't lose confidence. He's much better when he's arrogant and hard-headed and always right :silly:


I just clicked on the button to start a new thread and

You're one of those good posters that never starts a thread- one of my favs. As a matter of fact, I'd like to see you start a thread, lol

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[Toe Jam]

You're one of those good posters that never starts a thread- one of my favs. As a matter of fact, I'd like to see you start a thread, lol

....

What about me, Zoony?

Can I start a thread?

[NewCliche21]

Banning seems pretty overkill. NNT stops the problem that you want to stop, doesn't it? :whoknows:

What about having people earn the right to start threads? They have to do that after a NNT, so why not the other way around?

[zoony]

Banning seems pretty overkill. NNT stops the problem that you want to stop, doesn't it? :whoknows:

What about having people earn the right to start threads? They have to do that after a NNT, so why not the other way around?


If NNT worked, we wouldn't have a problem. It would have been fixed years ago.

But let's please not make this a debate series. It is what it is, unfortunately at this point.

...

[Lombardi's_kid_brother]

I worry about Oldfan. He's not batting very well this season... which is to say, he's striking out.

But he's still interesting, and that's why I'm worried. Hope he doesn't lose confidence. He's much better when he's arrogant and hard-headed and always right :silly:


He seems to have decided that the Jim Zorn's mastery of the WCO is a hill worth dying on. Which is an interesting decision, I have to admit.

If you have noticed, I no longer ***** about Jason Campbell as a QB, because, well, he's actually playing kind of ok most of the time. Sorta.

I'm more interested in being self-righteous than in being right.

[LaxBuddy21]

This is exactly the reason I almost never (if ever) start threads in the Stadium. Most people present anything worth presenting and its just a matter of debating. I figure anything I read elsewhere is either already posted or will be soon so I see no point posting it myself.

[bubba9497]

good idea

I think I'll start a new thread so everyone can see what I think about this.... because I'm too important to just "reply" in a thread


and I'll say I searched but couldn't find anything, to cover my ass, though I didn't even scan page 1 :thumbsup:



:)

[Fletch_Lives59]

What's up Zoony, how you doing buddy?

[Forehead]

We need that .gif of the finger that's going to press a "new thread" button but a cat comes out of nowhere and bites it. Someone had that as a sig at one point.

[zoony]

good idea

I think I'll start a new post so everyone can see what I think about this.... because I'm too important to just "reply" in a thread


and I say I searched but couldn't find anything, to cover my ass, though I didn't even scan page 1 :thumbsup:



:)



Bubba knows :) ...

[pez]

I hope not. I hope we don't ban anyone. I hope instead folks read this and the problem is resolved.

....

I agree, but the chance that will happen is about as likely as Snyder firing Vinny..

BTW what is the current ban record within 1 season? We may beat that this year.

[Custer]

If you've been a member less than a year, you might take a look at this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T6BTcEwtmZo

That is awesome funny.

I needed that today.

Thanks Mark!!!

[Mark The Homer]

We need that .gif of the finger that's going to press a "new thread" button but a cat comes out of nowhere and bites it. Someone had that as a sig at one point.
http://www.gifflix.com/files/e666b06897ea.gif

[T-REX1240]

If you've been a member less than a year, you might take a look at this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T6BTcEwtmZo

ROFL!! This is hilarious Mark, yet very informative nonetheless.

[NewCliche21]

If NNT worked, we wouldn't have a problem. It would have been fixed years ago.

But let's please not make this a debate series. It is what it is, unfortunately at this point.

...

Eh. You guys know better than I do.

Whatever, I don't break the rules, so it doesn't matter anyway. Ban away. (I know that you were waiting for my permission. ;) )

[Outlaw Torn]

If you've been a member less than a year, you might take a look at this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T6BTcEwtmZo
That cracks me up no matter how many times I see it.

[HigSkin]

Hey Zoony...shouldn't you change your avatar to a question mark?:)

[spjunkies]

I honestly don't know why anyone would be foolish enough to start a thread on this board in the first place.

[Jumbo]

I honestly don't know why anyone would be foolish enough to start a thread on this board in the first place.


it's a character flaw :)

[SkinsJackpot]

The man trying to keep us down

[Macgulf]

Fair enough. Please remove me from the fan base.

All the best.

[thesubmittedone]

Thank you!

[Mark The Homer]

I honestly don't know why anyone would be foolish enough to start a thread on this board in the first place.


it's a character flaw :)

?

I always assumed it was a personality disorder. My bad.

[Madison Redskin]

Okay, I need some guidance. I want to start the following 7 threads:

(1) Jason Campbell Sucks
(2) Jason Campbell is the Anti-Christ
(3) Everything is Jason's Fault
(4) Jason Campbell is Responsible for 9/11
(5) Jason Campbell Murdered Michael Jackson
(6) Jason Campbell Hasn't Completed One Pass This Season
(7) Jason Campbell Invented Crack and Distributed it to the Ghettos

Is that okay? I see there are a bunch of other threads regarding Jason, but I think these are all threads which break new ground.

[Hardcore Zornography]

good idea

I think I'll start a new thread so everyone can see what I think about this.... because I'm too important to just "reply" in a thread


and I'll say I searched but couldn't find anything, to cover my ass, though I didn't even scan page 1 :thumbsup:



:)


Sad thing is you are serious.

[zoony]

(7) Jason Campbell Invented Crack and Distributed it to the Ghettos




Come on, no way in hell THAT one is true

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[Jumbo]

Please remove me from the fan base.

We searched but didn't find anything.

[Oldfan]

I worry about Oldfan. He's not batting very well this season... which is to say, he's striking out. ..But he's still interesting, and that's why I'm worried. Hope he doesn't lose confidence. He's much better when he's arrogant and hard-headed and always right

I get that a lot from people who think I should buckle under the weight of their nitwit arguments.:D

Seriously though, I think I'm close to end in this business of starting new threads. I like to hit controversial topics because straight-up debate is fun, but I've about had my fill of strawman arguments and similar lowball gimmicks. This kind of stuff seems to be the rule rather than the exception lately.

[Jumbo]

I get that a lot from people who think I should buckle under the weight of their nitwit arguments.:D

Seriously though, I think I'm close to end in this business of starting new threads. I like to hit controversial topics because straight-up debate is fun, but I've about had my fill of strawman arguments and similar lowball gimmicks. This kind of stuff seems to be the rule rather than the exception lately.

It's been my experience that it's healthy to take breaks when you're too tough to buckle. :D

[Mark The Homer]

We searched but didn't find anything.lol


...Seriously though, I think I'm close to end in this business of starting new threads....I hope you're kidding.

[bubba9497]

straight-up debate is fun, but I've about had my fill of strawman arguments and similar lowball gimmicks. This kind of stuff seems to be the rule rather than the exception lately.


AMEN brother!

I rarely get into long winded debates anymore for that very reason, why bother doing the research, formulate an intelligent argument full of facts and logic, only to be ignored and diluted with agenda filled drivel, or personal attacks. :doh:

[Hardcore Zornography]

AMEN brother!

I rarely get into long winded debates anymore for that very reason, why bother doing the research, formulate an intelligent argument full of facts and logic, only to be ignored and diluted with agenda filled drivel, or personal attacks. :doh:

Bubba, I think you bring a lot to this board. I really do. I learn more from you and some of the other originals on here than I do watching Comcast Sports or Redskins Nation. And excuse my comment to you in this thread last night, I was half way joking-as were you.

But if you don't mind me saying so, you sport B&G shaded glasses way too much. The thread yesterday or Sunday night about the Skins not being alone is a perfect example. I know just looking at records, of course we are not alone, its only been 3 weeks. But the teams you compared us to in your thread was ridiculous. I think it was the Steelers, Titans, and I forget the 3rd team. There was no logical way to compare this team's situation to theirs. There just wasn't. I know that is an opinion, but it is an very big majority opinion of anyone who follows football.

When you say things like that at worst possible moment, its hard not to expect a bunch of drivel from the others who don't see things as "glass half full" as you do. But keep on keeping on man.

[Mark The Homer]

I've recently added a couple posts to the "Noteworthy Posts" Thread. This makes a total of three in there as of now. Obviously, these were chosen by me, for better or for worse. But what I think is interesting is, of the three posts, only one of them were OP's.

My point is, if you have something thoughtful to say, it's not always necessary to start a new thread.

And if you don't have something thoughtful to say, it's certainly not necessary to start a new thread.

The following thread can be found in the info index (tag search: info).

http://extremeskins.com/showthread.php?p=6253592

[Iced Coffee]

i wont lie. i am deathly afraid of creating new topics :hysterical::hysterical:

[bubba9497]

But if you don't mind me saying so, you sport B&G shaded glasses way too much. The thread yesterday or Sunday night about the Skins not being alone is a perfect example. I know just looking at records, of course we are not alone, its only been 3 weeks. But the teams you compared us to in your thread was ridiculous. I think it was the Steelers, Titans, and I forget the 3rd team. There was no logical way to compare this team's situation to theirs. There just wasn't. I know that is an opinion, but it is an very big majority opinion of anyone who follows football.




I disagree, most people assume that without reading what was written.

not one time in that thread did I praise the Skins, compare them to the other teams, or even discuss the skins.

I was referring to we aren't the only fans suffering, that's all. But I was bombarded with homer attacks... posters trying to say this team is worse, basically having a pity party.

and even if posting from a homer perspective, it doesn't excuse the pointless responses. Disagree fine, prove me wrong with facts and logic....

in one thread I was breaking down several points with actual facts, and the reply I got was ... "blah, blah, blah... I didn't even bother to read your post" he added a few stupid names and ended by telling me to go back stroking myself....

Sadly with the quality of posters now days, this is the normal type response :doh:

[Annonymous Source]

I get that a lot from people who think I should buckle under the weight of their nitwit arguments.:D

Seriously though, I think I'm close to end in this business of starting new threads. I like to hit controversial topics because straight-up debate is fun, but I've about had my fill of strawman arguments and similar lowball gimmicks. This kind of stuff seems to be the rule rather than the exception lately.

Hey, when we are 11-5 and won the division you will be remembered as a forward thinking genius...Now the question is how many years before that happens:silly:

[Dat Moss]

Wow .... nothing is running smoothly in redskin land, not even our message board hahaha.. Seriously though i feel like i read the same exact posts in every single thread:logo: HAIL!

[tshile]

AMEN brother!

I rarely get into long winded debates anymore for that very reason, why bother doing the research, formulate an intelligent argument full of facts and logic, only to be ignored and diluted with agenda filled drivel, or personal attacks. :doh:

thats going to happen, but i agree. sometimes i'm the one that does it, but i try not to.

i think the bigger problem... is that people here don't read threads. they post threads. they don't say 'i want to talk about this, are there any threads on this? oh theres one, let me start on page one, and see if what i'm going ot say has already been said and discussed'. normally they just start a new thread. if they actually take the time to search for a thread, then they normally skip straight to the last page.

the end result is what we have now: a ton of threads about the same thing, with different titles, and different groups of people discussing it in the same way.

when we do we get one good thread going, it turns into a 'recycle the last page' thread. people come in on page 11 saying the same uninformed/incorrect information as the people on page 10 - they didn't bother to read page 10, so 70% of page 10's content can be found on page 11 (although it may be posted by different people). The result is a 25 page thread, with about 3 pages worth of content. Which makes anyone worth discussing items with, stop paying attention to it.

its sad. and i think the best thing to do, is to require someone be a member for x months before posting. this way they see the way the board operates before just jumping in. judging by the way things have been lately, i'm starting to think a lot of people around here have never been on a message board before... (no problem with that, but i wish they'd read the rules)

[Jumbo]

http://extremeskins.com/showpost.php?p=6825152&postcount=8

[REDSKYNYRD]

What about starting a "Vent" section for those that feel the need to do just that. People need an outlet for the frustrations that have been building up for years now. I think some people post those frustrations on this site because they think the Redskins front office may actually care what they think or may actually even read this board.

[Toe Jam]

What about starting a "Vent" section for those that feel the need to do just that. People need an outlet for the frustrations that have been building up for years now. I think some people post those frustrations on this site because they think the Redskins front office may actually care what they think or may actually even read this board.

We have that.

It's called the Random Thought Thread.

Vent away.:D

[Stew]

I just dont start threads. When I first got here I wanted to be one of the guys that was first with a thread, or have great ideas for threads. The thing is, those positions are already full. Quality thread starters around here and there isnt any need to compete with them really.

People start threads when their post in a thread wasnt responded to, or responded to enough times, or if they think their point was glanced over in another thread. It happens to everyone. I hate it when I make a decent point (b/c its rare ;) ) and nobody makes mention of it or responds to it. However when noone responds it should do one thing for the person who made the comment nobody responded to. It should help that person realize that their post wasnt as great as they thought it was.

Its soooo much easier to just read and respond. No hassle or race in being the first one to post something or have to worry about it being in the right forum, thread worthy, grammatically correct and punctuated correctly, ect. Starting threads is much more hassle then its worth... and if your thought doesnt get responded to... so what.

Thats all I got.

[PigskinPhat]

Can someone please tell me what NNT stands for???

It's not in the faq and yes, I have used the search function.

Advanced thanks!

[Jumbo]

No New Threads = NNT



http://www.extremeskins.com/showthread.php?t=205285&page=1&pp=15&highlight=moderator+update

[fire5man80]

I've recently added a couple posts to the "Noteworthy Posts" Thread. This makes a total of three in there as of now. Obviously, these were chosen by me, for better or for worse. But what I think is interesting is, of the three posts, only one of them were OP's.

My point is, if you have something thoughtful to say, it's not always necessary to start a new thread.

And if you don't have something thoughtful to say, it's certainly not necessary to start a new thread.

The following thread can be found in the info index (tag search: info).

http://extremeskins.com/showthread.php?p=6253592
Mark, I think a thread titled, "NOT So Noteworthy Posts", should be made. A compilation of the most idiotic post made here on E Skins. You can start with this one if you'd like. I think that would be pretty funny though.

[Mark The Homer]

Mark, I think a thread titled, "NOT So Noteworthy Posts", should be made. A compilation of the most idiotic post made here on E Skins. You can start with this one if you'd like. I think that would be pretty funny though.

Not a bad idea, but I lost you when you said "start with this one." Which one?

[Rdskn4Lyf21]

I couldn't help it...I pressed the button :)

I did wait from Sunday though because I was trying not to add to the clutter.

[Tin Man]

If you've been a member less than a year, you might take a look at this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T6BTcEwtmZo

Your avater (Blache) should be banned.

[DirtyGunz8]

what are some of the threads you don't like that are up now

[fire5man80]

Not a bad idea, but I lost you when you said "start with this one." Which one?
I was talking about the post in which I made the suggestion. I was just being funny, in case you thought it was a horrible idea.

[Hooterman]

I have never seen a forum where there are as many "here are the rules" threads as ES. I guess being a Redskins fan during Dan's ownership is a little bit like the wild west with just a few marshalls trying to maintain control over all the bad guys.

[PigskinPhat]

No New Threads = NNT



http://www.extremeskins.com/showthread.php?t=205285&page=1&pp=15&highlight=moderator+update

Thank you sir! :D

[Jumbo]

I have never seen a forum where there are as many "here are the rules" threads as ES. I guess being a Redskins fan during Dan's ownership is a little bit like the wild west with just a few marshalls trying to maintain control over all the bad guys.


Well, in the three main forums, there's one with no "rules thread", one with one, and another with two, for a grand total of three for three forums. So your post seems kinda "whatever", but no biggy. In the past, there have been times where there were even more (gasp!). For a forum this size and this active, and with such relatively few mods, I don't think it's too bad and experience shows they do tend to help, though a few folks have some "issues" with some of them. Hard to find a thread I can't say that about, though. :laugh:

[Da Truth]

Guess I should of read this 2 days ago lol man but my posts had BIG responses on them so I aint think it was a problem

[TK]

I aint think
Obviously.:)

[RedskinDan0557]

In regards to my thread:

http://www.extremeskins.com/showthread.php?t=302213

My post was unique, rational, well articulated, and was deserving of its own thread. It was a call to action for people to focus their negative energy to exact change on the franchise.

I can understand it being locked if the mods disagreed...you say potato, i say......but for me to get NNT'd, especially considering the few new threads that I have posted over the years, is really uncalled for and extreme.

[Jumbo]

In regards to my thread:

http://www.extremeskins.com/showthread.php?t=302213

My post was unique, rational, well articulated, and was deserving of its own thread. It was a call to action for people to focus their negative energy to exact change on the franchise.

I can understand it being locked if the mods disagreed...you say potato, i say......but for me to get NNT'd, especially considering the few new threads that I have posted over the years, is really uncalled for and extreme.


To the red highlight: we had numerous existing threads calling for such actions in a variety of fashions. Your post should have been in any one of the "Hang Snyder/theFO/etc" threads.

The NNTs are being issued to many peope as rule violations became excessive with the current emotional upswing. Enforcing the rules, esepcially duing times like these, helps manage the board and keep it more functional for the majority of posters. Trying not to show favoritism by join date or number of threads/posts by the member, neither of which has anything to do with rules or rule enforcement if you read the rules page, is simply being fair and impartial. Those are usually good things in such situations. Like giving speeding tickets to whoever's speeding. Simple. Your "potato" is one thing, your "uncalled for" and "extreme" is silly. And I was kind in this reply. :)

[TK]

In regards to my thread:

http://www.extremeskins.com/showthread.php?t=302213

My post was unique, rational, well articulated, and was deserving of its own thread. It was a call to action for people to focus their negative energy to exact change on the franchise.

I can understand it being locked if the mods disagreed...you say potato, i say......but for me to get NNT'd, especially considering the few new threads that I have posted over the years, is really uncalled for and extreme.
Wait.

You posted this, then you PM'd it to me. You really do like attention, don't you.:doh:

[bubba9497]

RedskinDan0557 View Post
In regards to my thread:

http://www.extremeskins.com/showthread.php?t=302213

My post was unique, rational, well articulated, and was deserving of its own thread


don't be so humble :hysterical:

your thread was possibly 1 of 4 of those descriptions...

it was hardly unique, many have posted the same sentiment several times recently, as well as over the entire board history.

rational? more like emotional

well articulated? eh, you didn't post "ain't" and used non 4 letter words.

deserving of its own thread? :no:

[RedskinDan0557]

Wait.

You posted this, then you PM'd it to me. You really do like attention, don't you.:doh:

I have not started a thread since April, averaging one post a day and 10 threads a year, yet you guys are in here piling on me and saying I like attention?

You guys are full of ****.

It's funny how you guys trivialize and get to decide at a whim whats worthy of a thread. My post was not meant to be a bash Snyder thread, but a way to implore him to do the right thing.

I specifically started a new thread to compel people to take action and quit bitching and moaning about the state of the franchise.

I guess this board is just a medium for you to stroke your oversized ego.

Good luck with that.

[RedskinDan0557]

don't be so humble :hysterical:

your thread was possibly 1 of 4 of those descriptions...

it was hardly unique, many have posted the same sentiment several times recently, as well as over the entire board history.

rational? more like emotional

well articulated? eh, you didn't post "ain't" and used non 4 letter words.

deserving of its own thread? :no:

Tell me exactly where there is another thread wanting to start the redskin version of the "Millen Man March"?

Thought so. My post was quite rational, however the official response by the powers that be here was not.

[Jumbo]

Not only did your "rebuttal" fail to countermand any of the points we made to you (the needed comprehension seems to elude you) regarding your whiny need to make a drama out of a damn closed thread of yours, but I have little doubt that the kind of mentality that serves your moving this trivial nonsense into a personal review of the size of "our" egos (projection?), make an accusation that we do this work based on "whims", and inspire your ironic claim that we're full of ****, will also block you from learning anything from the fact that (at this point) we will let you be such an insulting dip**** without additional penalty. :)

[RedskinDan0557]

Not only did your "rebuttal" fail to countermand any of the points we made to you (the needed comprehension seems to elude you) regarding your whiny need to make a drama out of a damn closed thread of yours, but I have little doubt that the kind of mentality that serves your moving this trivial nonsense into a personal review of the size of "our" egos (projection?), make an accusation that we "do this work based on "whims", and inspire your ironic claim that we're full of ****, will also block you from learning anything from the fact that (at this point) we will let you be such an insulting dip**** without additional penalty. :)

I think your actions regarding "projections" are louder than my words. The evidence for your (the mods) arbitrary and capriciousness is well evidenced in previous posts in this thread. The needed comprehension to face that evidence does seem to elude you though.

I get it, you guys have your favorites, they may be twits, but they're your twits.

I stand by my previous statements. My post was unique and deserving of its own thread. I thought it was provocative, but not enough to get locked and certainly not enough to get NNT'd. I was wrong. It apparently touched a nerve.

[chipwhich]

Not only did your "rebuttal" fail to countermand any of the points we made to you (the needed comprehension seems to elude you) regarding your whiny need to make a drama out of a damn closed thread of yours, but I have little doubt that the kind of mentality that serves your moving this trivial nonsense into a personal review of the size of "our" egos (projection?), and inspire your ironic claim that we're full of ****, will also block you from learning anything from the fact that (at this point) we will let you be such an insulting dip**** without additional penalty. :)

The board is definitely at a crossroads.

Enter an "original" thought in an existing thread, which on gameday, will be 2-3 pages ahead after your post...hence no meaningful discussion.

Or start a post with an "original" thought only to have it closed before meaningful thought can continue.

One thing for sure, meaningless thought "new" threads roll off the page as fast as they appear. Maybe in some respects it is better that way?

There is little opportunity on here to start a meaningful thought thread on the board here anymore.

Not that I am defending this posters thoughts as I find it silly.

However some posters like burgold get a break on meaningless thought threads even though they don't offer much more to the board than this guys post??

Maybe what I am saying is good threads will get their own traction, and bad threads disappear quicker than they are started.

I am not sure what is worse. 15 threads on the same topic, or one thread with 1000 plus posts with nothing more to post than the same one liners.

[Jumbo]

I'd contend he board's not at any crossroads at all, objectively. The same kind of comment can be found at virtually any time since a year after it began. It will be said again in the future. Rarely is it more than just a passing perpception usually driven by feelings of the time at hand and then things move on. In the big picture, short of an actual major "mission statement" change, little about the fundamental nature of board dynamics changes, other than what major differences in membership volume brings to a degree. And then it's just a case of "more of" as opposed to "really different."

On a more broken-down time-scale, some months/weeks have relatively marginal and transient differences over others.

Art created the NNT category years back in response to an increase in membership and more people not bothering to learn and follow the rules as they agree to do when they register. Then, too, some people talked about "crossroads." As people in the best position to know, we have found NNT to be very helpful. It is now years later. It is still very helpful.

People have all kinds of opinions about things (see tailgate :silly:) and like to pontificate, which is why there are message boards and that's part of the deal. Some people, from time to time, have difficulty resisting making matters more significant than they really are in the long run. Wins and losses are what counts most. :D

[chipwhich]

People have all kinds of opinions about things (see tailgate :silly:) and like to pontificate, which is why there are message boards and that's part of the deal. Some people, from time to time, have difficulty resisting making matters more significant than they really are in the long run. Wins and losses are what counts most. :D

While I agree...it's also hard to get into meaningful "wins in losses" in the same thread where there are 100's of post stating the same one liners, and where responses occur at such a rate, that your post gets lost in the ether. Not that they really matter anyway. :silly:

[Jumbo]

While I agree...it's also hard to get into meaningful "wins in losses" in the same thread where there are 100's of post stating the same one liners, and where responses occur at such a rate, that your post gets lost in the ether. Not that they really matter anyway. :silly:


Yes, and don't misunderstand, Chip, I'm not trying to blow-off the reality of the additonal volume. I just take what might be termed a bit "farther back" view in terms of perspective. By that I mean that any time I am romanticizng the "old days" I pull up dates and on almost any given day I can find a share of everything form smart to stupid to crazy to ignorant to informed etc etc. That's still basically the same.

Virtually every day there are truly excellent football discussions on the front page of the stadium, a plethora of current Redskins news stories, and a ton o crapola. Only the "size" of it all is a bit more to deal with, not the actual type and level of content (I speak in a "roughly" sense, and with variance as perviously noted, from time to time). As far as gameday matters, it is equally true that a huge membership is reflected most especially then in voulme of "me too" reactions and that challenges board management. And we actually have less staff than in the past. But I can go back to gameday threads form when I first joined the staff and see much the same thing. You should see the PM's and staff e-mail chians I have saved to disc. ;) We would have 6 or 7 of us (instead of 2 or 3) talking about how "insane" it was and how many threads we had to merge or close and how many bans there were and how hard it was to keep good topics on the fornt page...see what I mean? :)

So, it's all true enough in different ways, however you want to look at it. But things will go on, and we will do the best we can.

[chipwhich]

So, it's all true enough in different ways, however you want to look at it. But things will go on, and we will do the best we can.

You guys do a great job and I am certainly not trying to take away from that.

Sometimes I just feel on game day, and the next, its hard to have a point given the shear volume.

And given my propensity to stay away from getting wrapped up in the game day madness of extremeskins...sometimes I like to check in on the pulse of the fans....but with all of the merges going on...I can't get a quick pulse check other than checking in to a thread that has so many posts it's hard to get a quick pulse check and tends to "water down" anyones original thoughts.

[Jumbo]

You guys do a great job and I am certainly not trying to take away from that.

Sometimes I just feel on game day, and the next, its hard to have a point given the shear volume.

And given my propensity to stay away from getting wrapped up in the game day madness of extremeskins...sometimes I like to check in on the pulse of the fans....but with all of the merges going on...I can't get a quick pulse check other than checking in to a thread that has so many posts it's hard to get a quick pulse check and tends to "water down" anyones original thoughts.

Understood, and I think this opening series has been more true of that than last year. After the roller coaster ride of 2008, and wondering about the new HC & JC in the second year of change, and our hopes for our new personnel and hopefully-improving rookie WRs, the hordes were primed for a big fall if it went bad, which it did.

Personally, for now, I'd think it smart to stay away from most any sports board this size with a franchise in this state, on gameday. Unless you come on after a win is in the bag. Or unless you're one of those who likes to ***** and moan in a crowd. :)

The last two losses were extra hard on the board, which is what I was referencing when I said on a week/month basis there definitely are times that are notably better/worse than others. I can only dream what it would be like on this board to have a 12-4 or better season and go deep in the play-offs. A SB win is almost unimaginable, board-wise (I remember well our last one, fan-wise).

[bubba9497]

Tell me exactly where there is another thread wanting to start the redskin version of the "Millen Man March"?

different name, same idea that has been posted time and time again over the years, especially after a bad loss... ie emotional not rational

for goodness sake we are 1-2 of a 16 game season.... and the Skins under Snyder is not even close to the dysfunctional behavior of the Lions under Millen


Thought so. My post was quite rational, however the official response by the powers that be here was not.


:jerk: stop being a drama queen

further proving your post was emotional not rational.

if you were being rational you could understand the points being made to you, why your thread was closed, instead of acting superior and having a hissy fit

[Mark The Homer]

...My post was unique and deserving of its own thread. I thought it was provocative,...Of course you did. It's human nature. Everybody thinks their thread is the most important thread on the board. Everybody thinks their post is the most important post in a given thread.

But, I think if your thread was really thread-worthy, a fellow member would have spoken up in your defense by now. Somebody would have said

"Ya know, I thought RedskinDan0557's thread was particularly interesting, and I'm disappointed it was closed."

...or words to that effect.

Nobody has.

That's a clue of the reality.

[Mark The Homer]

Now, I'd like to comment on last Sunday/Monday.

Usually on game day, I'm either at the game, or I'm somewhere else watching the game (because my TV sucks). But for the Lions game, I was home and tried to help moderate the best I could.

Holy ****! What a pain in the ass!

The **** just scrolls down so fast, you can barely keep up with it. It seems the entire membership is made up of morons. I know that is not true, but it seems true, because even if 10% of the 2,000 to 4,000 people online make idiot threads, it results in dozens and dozens of threads that need to be closed, and dozens and dozens of NNT's that need to be issued. And this needs to be done as quickly as possible to keep up with wave after wave of ill-advised threads.

I can tell you being on staff on Sundays and Mondays is no fun. We don't get to casually peruse threads and comment at our leisure. There is no time. Instead, we have to try to keep some sense of order in a house of madness. It is work and it is exhausting. After 3-4 hours, your shoulders ache and you get burnt out. Your eyes burn. But the **** keeps coming endlessly. It's like trying to plug a leaky dike which seems to be crumbling all around you.

And remember - we're fans too. We are feeling the same emotions. We just don't have time to express them because we are so busy dealing with the minority - and it is a minority - who either never bothered reading the rules or never bothered reading the stickied OP (whichever one it is), or they simply think they're better than everybody else and don't have to adhere to ES guidelines regarding starting threads.

So the staff will keep issuing NNTs and temporary bans - ESPECIALLY on Sundays and Mondays.

Know that if you choose to start a thread on a Sunday or Monday, you are putting yourself at risk. You would be wise to be sure your thread is interesting and is not already posted and is not already being discussed in a thread five lines down.

To avoid NNT and a possible temporary ban, please click here (http://extremeskins.com/showpost.php?p=3980771&postcount=1) for more info.

[LD0506]

And remember - we're fans too. We are feeling the same emotions. We just don't have time to express them because we are so busy dealing with the minority - and it is a minority - who either never bothered reading the rules or never bothered reading the stickied OP (whichever one it is), or they simply think they're better than everybody else and don't have to adhere to ES guidelines regarding starting threads

You mean like that faction who keeps ending up in this thread, going on at great length about how misunderstood they are, how their thread was different/better/worthy,etc and they are being SO oppressed by the man?




I love those

[Tennessee Ed]

Now, I'd like to comment on last Sunday/Monday...

And so begins MTH's journey from Ambassador of Goodwill,:welcome:, to Battle tested, combat veteran Mod.:saber:

Thanks for all the Mods hard work in these tough times.
Hopefully winning will help turn things around here as well.:)


PS - get a new tv, life is to short to watch sports in SD

[TK]

Welcome to the Dark Side MTH.
:jedi:

[FlaSk1nsfan]

Okay, I need some guidance. I want to start the following 7 threads:

(1) Jason Campbell Sucks
(2) Jason Campbell is the Anti-Christ
(3) Everything is Jason's Fault
(4) Jason Campbell is Responsible for 9/11
(5) Jason Campbell Murdered Michael Jackson
(6) Jason Campbell Hasn't Completed One Pass This Season
(7) Jason Campbell Invented Crack and Distributed it to the Ghettos

Is that okay? I see there are a bunch of other threads regarding Jason, but I think these are all threads which break new ground.

Now that was funny. I personally think that the ES BB should be nothing more then a bunch of threads telling the membership what they can and cant start threads about and or post. That would be kick ass:point2sky AND BEFORE ANYONE GETS MAD AT ME...I AM 100% BEING A WISEASS!

[FlaSk1nsfan]

Bubba, I think you bring a lot to this board. I really do. I learn more from you and some of the other originals on here than I do watching Comcast Sports or Redskins Nation. And excuse my comment to you in this thread last night, I was half way joking-as were you.

But if you don't mind me saying so, you sport B&G shaded glasses way too much. The thread yesterday or Sunday night about the Skins not being alone is a perfect example. I know just looking at records, of course we are not alone, its only been 3 weeks. But the teams you compared us to in your thread was ridiculous. I think it was the Steelers, Titans, and I forget the 3rd team. There was no logical way to compare this team's situation to theirs. There just wasn't. I know that is an opinion, but it is an very big majority opinion of anyone who follows football.

When you say things like that at worst possible moment, its hard not to expect a bunch of drivel from the others who don't see things as "glass half full" as you do. But keep on keeping on man.


Bubba is a smart guy no doubt and I respect him and the others who work on this BB. But you have to keep in mind (and I am sorry if this offends the mods) this is a Redskins owned BB and these guys get perks for what they do from the team. My point being is that you dont bite the hand that feeds you. Take that for what you will.

[Mark The Homer]

... But you have to keep in mind (and I am sorry if this offends the mods) this is a Redskins owned BB and these guys get perks for what they do from the team. ....lol

We do?

Somebody forgot to give me mine.

[FlaSk1nsfan]

lol

We do?

Somebody forgot to give me mine.


LOL Come on man you guys know you get some extra love from the org. Well thats not fair for me to say about all you. It is a well known fact that at least some of the mods get perks. Thats all I was saying and I meant it with no disrespect at all. I was just saying that its prob the the best idea to poop on the team if they give you some perks here and there.

[Tennessee Ed]

this is a Redskins owned BB and these guys get percocets for what they do from the team.

Fixed that for ya.:D

[FlaSk1nsfan]

Fixed that for ya.:D

hahaha got any lube for that stroke? :laugh:

[LD0506]

It is a well known fact that at least some of the mods get perks.

This :pooh: just never gets old.........

[Jumbo]

But you have to keep in mind (and I am sorry if this offends the mods) this is a Redskins owned BB and these guys get perks for what they do from the team.

Well, I know you believe you mean no offense, and I take none personally, but people pretty consistently think they know more than they know. as I have said before that while I have been on staff the last four years and on active duty more than any mod other than Rick, I have not taken one perk of any kind other than a Redskins anniversary DVD that Huly & Pez got for me. I'm just speaking for myself. I also work 40 plus hours per week and volunteer another 10 in various capacities besides doing this and I also enjoy the **** :D out of my personal/recreational life, despite the scheduling. One way I do all this is I am not online much other than for ES and research/work, and I don't play video games. :cool:

As for anything my fellows have received that we may call "perks", if you took the total "compensation" for the work they did, like getting to cover a game once or twice a year at best, and includes a lot of work for the site in the process, and figured it was any real motivation for affecting a mod's "commentary" or making it worth the time and trouble to actively manage the board (be here much that is and do it for very long) you'd be mistaken.

The staff I have known here over the years say what they think. However they come off to you, those are their real opinions. To even nicely suggest otherwsie is totally off-target. And if you can read, you see most staff poop and bite on the team as, and whenever, they feel the need.

But I also read your response to Mark, and I know you're not trying to be thorny. It's simply pointless to link "perks" as some kind of swaying motivation for what this staff does, or how it acts, for ES and the Redskins fanbase overall. :)


BTW, I got a PM from that dude Dan who was complaining, and it had a "Please delete my account" title, and I just deleted the PM without reading it (experience), thinking "jeez drama boy, just quit logging on, you don't need a final fluster and grand announcement." So if you read this Dan, best wishes, and remember there are plenty of other Redskins sites and you can likely find one where things are swell. :)

[Jumbo]

This :pooh: just never gets old.........


We're a very green board and membership. We are all about the recycling. :silly:

[RedskinDan0557]

BTW, I got a PM from that dude Dan who was complaining, and it had a "Please delete my account" title, and I just deleted the PM without reading it (experience), thinking "jeez drama boy, just quit logging on, you don't need a final fluster and grand announcement." So if you read this Dan, best wishes, and remember there are plenty of other Redskins sites and you can likely find one where things are swell. :)

Actually, all I stated was "Please delete this account ASAP". Now quit being a drama queen and ****ing ***** and delete it already.

[Jumbo]

Actually, all I stated was "Please delete this account ASAP". Now quit being a drama queen and ****ing ***** and delete it already.


Nah, I'm good. I'm striving not to deprive you of any of your need to express yourself :D

[bubba9497]

Bubba is a smart guy no doubt and I respect him and the others who work on this BB. But you have to keep in mind (and I am sorry if this offends the mods) this is a Redskins owned BB and these guys get perks for what they do from the team. My point being is that you dont bite the hand that feeds you. Take that for what you will.

Please provide proof of this....

because I have never received one penny in cash, gifts, or privileges for my time and effort I put into this board.

in fact, I have put several dollars out of my own pocket to get premium services to provide even more info for others and never once been reimbursed for it.

And yes... I do take offense when someone who doesn't have a clue to what they are talking about, uses me to make half ass assumptions presented as fact, just to appease their bias opinions. Especially when no attempt was made to even check to see if their accusation were even partially true.

[zoony]

And yes... I do take offense when someone who doesn't have a clue to what they are talking about, uses me to make half ass assumptions presented as fact, just to appease their bias opinions. Especially when no attempt was made to even check to see if their accusation were even partially true.



And you should take offense. The amount of work you put into this site and some random guy comes along and tells everyone you're on Snyder's payroll. What a joke.

I think Bubba would probably appreciate a high five from folks... or at minimum a nice warm cup of stfu. Not insults. The amount of time and work he puts into this site is staggering, and this site would fold without him.


.....

[RedskinDan0557]

Nah, I'm good. I'm striving not to deprive you of any of your need to express yourself :D

And you guys claim you don't use the board to stroke your oversized ego's or go on power trips.

Again, you guys are full of ****.

[bubba9497]

The amount of time and work he puts into this site is staggering, and this site would fold without him......


:kickcan: aw shucks

thanks for the kind words, but I'm merely a cog in the great ES machine, one that is easily replaced

[Mark The Homer]

:kickcan: aw shucks

thanks for the kind words, but I'm merely a cog in the great ES machine, one that is easily replacedHahhahahahhahahahahahahahahhahaahahahaha

Good one. :laugh:

[Mark The Homer]

And you guys claim you don't use the board to stroke your oversized ego's or go on power trips.

Again, you guys are full of ****.lol

If you're going to insult somebody, it would hold a lot more weight and you'd appear to be a lot less of an idiot if you'd use correct grammar learned by anybody past the fifth grade.

Egos < --- plural

[bubba9497]

And you guys claim you don't use the board to stroke your oversized ego's or go on power trips.


yep being an ES staff member is areal power trip, spending several hours a week volunteering, to help make members visits enjoyable, and smooth running, while dealing with tons of pms complaining about one thing or another, and to be constantly accused of being on the take, showing favoritism, corrupt dealings, censorship, ego stroken..... a real power trip job


Again, you guys are full of ****.

says the pot to the kettle

[TK]

And you guys claim you don't use the board to stroke your oversized ego's or go on power trips.

Again, you guys are full of ****.
And yet you continue to come back here because you lack the will power to not do so. So much in fact you've PM'd your request for your account to be banned. You claim to not be a attention whore, but given your actions in continually coming back you show that you're nothing but one.

You should change your shoes because you've stepped in something.

[RedskinDan0557]

You guys continue to insult me in the hopes that i wont defend myself. The best you can come with is poor grammar and that I'm an attention whore?

Really? I sent a pm to have my account deleted, and yet you guys post about it here. Who's the attention whore?

Like I've previously stated the evidence for the mods arbitrary and capriciousness is well documented by posts in this thread. I might as well add your proclivity towards being "attention whores" and letting your egos get the better of you.

Like I've said, delete my account, then you can bash away.

On edit bubba, why your involved in this is a wonder but does serve to prove that the mods do have their favorites. Don't assume that your special, there are plenty of people out there that can take your place.

[Outlaw Torn]

I just wanna say (and in no way am I kissing ass) that ive been a member on a few other boards and this one is the best run by far. I wish mods on all boards were as strict as you guys are. Most of the time it seems like the rules are just there for show.

[Jumbo]

You should change your shoes because you've stepped in something.

You do have to admit, he has a stunning shoe wardrobe. :D

http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s107/jumboskins/clownshoes4.jpg

http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s107/jumboskins/clownshoes1.jpg

http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s107/jumboskins/clownshoes2.jpg

http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s107/jumboskins/clownshoes3.jpg

http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s107/jumboskins/clownshoes6.jpg

http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s107/jumboskins/clownshoes8.jpg


and, of course, for those more formally dramatic evenings...

http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s107/jumboskins/clownshoes5.jpg


pssst..i see him back again just now...hi there dandan :)

[bubba9497]

You guys continue to insult me in the hopes that i wont defend myself. The best you can come with is poor grammar and that I'm an attention whore?

Really? I sent a pm to have my account deleted, and yet you guys post about it here. Who's the attention whore?

Like I've previously stated the evidence for the mods arbitrary and capriciousness is well documented by posts in this thread. I might as well add your proclivity towards being "attention whores" and letting your egos get the better of you.

Like I've said, delete my account, then you can bash away.

On edit bubba, why your involved in this is a wonder but does serve to prove that the mods do have their favorites. Don't assume that your special, there are plenty of people out there that can take your place.

if the mods didn't want you to defend yourself wouldn't they just ban you?

if the are such ego driven villains, why are you allowed to keep posting insults and accusing them of wrong doings?

sorry your boat has too many holes in it.

[RedskinDan0557]

if the mods didn't want you to defend yourself wouldn't they just ban you?

if the are such ego driven villains, why are you allowed to keep posting insults and accusing them of wrong doings?

sorry your boat has too many holes in it.

I've asked that my account be deleted. It's obvious why they have not done it yet, its probably over your head though.

You guys got nothing. Delete my account already.

[Mark The Homer]

...Like I've previously stated the evidence for the mods arbitrary and capriciousness is well documented by posts in this thread. There's only a handful of us. There's tens of thousands of you. So how come nobody is coming to your defense?


I might as well add your proclivity towards being "attention whores" and letting your egos get the better of you.There may be hope for you, after all. You are, it seems, capable of learning.


...On edit bubba, why your involved in this is a wonder but does serve to prove that the mods do have their favorites. Don't assume that your special, there are plenty of people out there that can take your place.:doh:

Dude, you're embarrassing yourself now. Seriously.

[bubba9497]

On edit bubba, why your involved in this is a wonder but does serve to prove that the mods do have their favorites. Don't assume that your special, there are plenty of people out there that can take your place.

why involved?

1. I'm staff and mod the news forum

2. because you are completely in the wrong

3. your hypocrisy astounds me

mod favorite?

1. I've had threads closed, merged, or moved before... and I'm staff

2. TK hates me because I'm better looking

assume that I'm special?

:hysterical: :hysterical: :hysterical: :hysterical:

Hardly.... I've never posted a rational unoriginal thread and made a big stink over it.... you have to think of yourself above others to do that :thumbsup:

[bubba9497]

I've asked that my account be deleted. It's obvious why they have not done it yet, its probably over your head though.

:hysterical: riiiiiiiight






You guys got nothing. Delete my account already.
are you an ES junkie? addicted to posting nonsense, and making yourself look foolish?

pull the trigger yourself :shot:

[HailGreen28]

:hysterical: riiiiiiiight are you an ES junkie? addicted to posting nonsense, and making yourself look foolish? pull the trigger yourself :shot:
HOLD IT, MEN! HE'S NOT BLUFFING!
http://1-2knockout.typepad.com/photos/uncategorized/2008/04/06/bart.png

[Burgundy Burner]

I've asked that my account be deleted. It's obvious why they have not done it yet, its probably over your head though.

You guys got nothing. Delete my account already.

I can understand when someone is not able to pay his monthly membership dues at ES and then proceeds to take it out on the mods. Hey, it's a struggle each month to get enough money. I'm thinking of ringing the bells during this holiday season and being an elf at Cherry Hill Mall.

[zoony]

HOLD IT, MEN! HE'S NOT BLUFFING!]


:rotflmao:

Perfect, just perfect

[bubba9497]

and, of course, for those more formally dramatic evenings...

http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s107/jumboskins/clownshoes5.jpg



The Drama Queen Elitist model

[Jumbo]

I see my "Holding Himself Hostage" label (and right after that HailGreen gives us that great pic) was raised with the "special" avatar :)

[FlaSk1nsfan]

You guys continue to insult me in the hopes that i wont defend myself. The best you can come with is poor grammar and that I'm an attention whore?

Really? I sent a pm to have my account deleted, and yet you guys post about it here. Who's the attention whore?

Like I've previously stated the evidence for the mods arbitrary and capriciousness is well documented by posts in this thread. I might as well add your proclivity towards being "attention whores" and letting your egos get the better of you.

Like I've said, delete my account, then you can bash away.

On edit bubba, why your involved in this is a wonder but does serve to prove that the mods do have their favorites. Don't assume that your special, there are plenty of people out there that can take your place.

Dude whats your prob. Your being a jerk. I call the mods out with no prob when I think they are being unfair or high and mighty but none of them in this tread have done that and your being out of line. And me defending the mods is really not the norm. I respect them for what they do but I also have issues with how some of them do it so when I defend them rest assure your way out of line.

[STBonecrusher21]

Hell, this is the most entertaining thread on the front page!

How did I miss this?!?!

[Jumbo]

Hell, this is the most entertaining thread on the front page!

How did I miss this?!?!

Yeh, they can be fun. I'm about ready to bump the old NNT thread soon. That has some riotous moments, too. While usually just letting a fair amount of ignorant hot air crap hurled our way slide by, I occasionally like to take some dude doing his little pookie dance head-on with a hefty dose of "well, let's go ahead and examine just what a dip**** you are" and let them roll with it.

When done correctly, and having accurately assessed the dip**** quotient as substantial, you can get some very entertaining reading for the membership. And all the while bringing reality a little closer into someone's life. It's just more service work. :D

[FlaSk1nsfan]

And you should take offense. The amount of work you put into this site and some random guy comes along and tells everyone you're on Snyder's payroll. What a joke.

I think Bubba would probably appreciate a high five from folks... or at minimum a nice warm cup of stfu. Not insults. The amount of time and work he puts into this site is staggering, and this site would fold without him.


.....

Just so Im not imagining things but didnt I just read a post by you saying how you saw how JC cant read a D from the PRESS BOX? Its in the failure of JC in pics thread. How did you get into the press box? Do you write for the post? And if were all going to pretend to play dumb that some of the mods on this BB get to watch games from the press box and travel with the team etc then it is what it is.

[Jumbo]

Just so Im not imagining things but didnt I just read a post by you saying how you saw how JC cant read a D from the PRESS BOX? Its in the failure of JC in pics thread. How did you get into the press box? Do you write for the post? And if were all going to pretend to play dumb that some of the mods on this BB get to watch games from the press box and travel with the team etc then it is what it is.

jesus...zoony was getting on you about your comments below that you linked to bubba by the way you worded it as though he were included even when you amended it to "some mods" later...


Bubba is a smart guy no doubt and I respect him and the others who work on this BB. But you have to keep in mind (and I am sorry if this offends the mods) this is a Redskins owned BB and these guys get perks for what they do from the team. My point being is that you dont bite the hand that feeds you. Take that for what you will.

And you were told flat out how incorrect your implication was that we (any mod) "don't bite the hand" or "poop" on the team because of any kind of perks you think even some of us get. That's a number of times you have violated rule 18, which we have been known to perma ban for after our patience wears thin enough. Your previous mod actions (a ban with an extension) were also connected to you being overly antagonistic in violating rules.

Its been said quite clearly what does and doesn't happen, not that you have either all the needed information or the needed sense (apparently) to make a good judgment on the matter. But you obviously want to keep talking about "taking on the mods" and then do it in an insulting and inaccurate fashion.

I almost temporarily canned you for one of your other posts here where you crow about calling out the mods, though you set it up as though you were "supporting" us and calling out Dan. You can say all kinds of **** about anything we do or post with no harm no foul, just as happens with any member to member interaction, but you can also run into trouble if you don't know what you're doing and how to do it.

So if you want to manifest some ass-backward "authority issue" that over-rides your reading comprehension and your judgment so repeatedly, and lead with your chin, then I will happliy deliver the KO and you can take your crippled analytical skills and resulting commentary elsewhere for a few months.

In closing, I sure hope this isn't going to become another "suicide" thread.

[polywog999]

Pretty funny stuff! Just want to say thanks. I think you guys do a great job. Even though I'm scared to death of posting a new thread!

[Jumbo]

Seriously, mi amigos...watch your New Thread starting/spazzing today. For your own best interests.

[bubba9497]

Seriously, mi amigos...watch your New Thread starting/spazzing today. For your own best interests.


here we go again

[polywog999]

Seriously, mi amigos...watch your new Thread startign spazzing today. For your own best intertests.
I no longer post threads during games. A lot of threads that would normally be allowed are closed.
Also no one reads a good post during a game, there's no time for debate and there are sooo many threads It's impossible to tell if there is a similar one already.

[Jumbo]

I no longer post threads during games. A lot of threads that would normally be allowed are closed. Also no one reads a good post during a game, there's no time for debate. Also There are sooo many threads that It's nearly impossible to tell if there is a similar one already.


Smart man. And your intelligence shows regularly. One refinement to your remarks I'd make: threads that are closed are pretty much the same ones that would get closed other times with maybe a few exceptions. 98% of the "new threads" closed should just be a thought posted in an exisiting conversation (usually there is more than one already fitting thread going), just as the rule reads. It's more that the spazz factor (especially on a bad loss) is through the roof and we get 10 times as many, 10 times faster as people just react glandularly (understandable but can have consequences) and don't think or even look at the front page enough before they "jump."

[polywog999]

Smart man. And your intelligence shows regularly. One refinement to your remarks I'd make: threads that are closed are pretty much the same ones that would get closed other times with maybe a few exceptions. 98% of the "new threads" closed should just be a thought posted in an exisiting conversation (usually there is more than one already fitting thread going), just as the rule reads. It's more that the spazz factor (especially on a bad loss) is through the roof and we get 10 times as many, 10 times faster as people just react glandularly (understandable but can have consequences) and don't think or even look at the front page enough before they "jump."
Thank you, kind sir!

[DarrellsMyHero28]

Just saw the "We Suck" thread and it literally just said "That's all I have to say:mad:"

It still amazes me how the internet really brings out the stupid in people.

[Jumbo]

Just saw the "We Suck" thread and it literally just said "That's all I have to say:mad:"

It still amazes me how the internet really brings out the stupid in people.


You'd be impressed with the e-mails I just got from a guy banned here letting me know how important he was and how we (and i) suck so bad and how we just don't know what we're doing and are just blah blah blah...and then he casts aspersions about the character and behavior of others..the interents and pro sports and certain personalities...good forumla for interesting interactions :D

[DarrellsMyHero28]

You'd be impressed with the e-mails I just got from a guy banned here letting me know how important he was and how we (and i) suck so bad and how we just don't know what we're doing and are just blah blah blah...and then he casts aspersions about the character and behavior of others..the interents and pro sports and certain personalities...good forumla for interesting interactions :D

You should start posting them, it would be a good laugh :evilg:

[Jumbo]

Wacth out now on starting new threads...

[btfoom]

You'd be impressed with the e-mails I just got from a guy banned here letting me know how important he was and how we (and i) suck so bad and how we just don't know what we're doing and are just blah blah blah.......:D

Is his name Kanye and was he talking about Beyonce posting here????

[Da Truth]

Jumbo types like how i would think zorn would lol

[Jumbo]

Jumbo types like how i would think zorn would lol


I am the worst keyboardist I know. I am a world-class speller and gammar master and have been sicne a little kid, but I type like an octopus with ADHD wearing catcher's mitts. It takes me hours to use spellcheck on long writings. Even one-paragraph posts will usually have 40% typos. This one had plenty. :mad:

[polywog999]

I am the worst keyboardist I know. I am a world-class speller and gammar master and have been sicne a little kid, but I type like an octopus with ADHD wearing catcher's mitts. It takes me hours to use spellcheck on long writings. Even one-paragraph posts will usually have 40% typos. This one had plenty. :mad:
I do the right hand/middle finger type! I get laughed at by my friend's kids.

[Riad]

Welp. I can't start a new thread anyway and do not see a thread that is relevant so I thought I'd post it here. Simply put, after many years of hustling with myself, I have decided to start "a" transition by adding a color-full change in my signature. I know I will be called many names, may even get banned here but I gotta move on. I have had endless fun for many years hanging out here in the ES (even with the NNT privilege :D). I look at this transition as if I am a player and looking for a trade (or got cut). I have interviewed with many teams and worked out a great deal with the Vikes. I will be rooting for the skins every Sunday and be hating the Cowboys at all time and hope the skins make the playoff each year. I have been a long time Redskins fan; the only team I ever root for ever since I learned about football. But this is the end of the road for me. I think the Vikes have a great chemistry going on. I have had most fun watching the these guys then any other team. Football season is really short and I gotta have fun watching the game.

So Peace to ya'll.

[Mark The Homer]

Hmm.

Have you ever even been to Minnesota?

What are you going to do when the Vikes lose a few?

BTW, we have a random thought thread you could have posted this in. Just sayin'

[Riad]

Valid point. I didn't even know that there's a Random Thought Thread and its purpose is such. Yes I have been to Minnesota few times. Friggin Cold and I hate cold.

However, I love the game. Losing is OK but I would doubt that they would lose like the Skins. At least not in a while. Like I said, I'd always root for the skins;). I actually thought last night that they were gonna lose. But that was awesome game though.

[Boleyn9]

How does Dan Snyder find time to own the team and rule the message boards with an iron fist? Stunning.


This forum is being spammed with too many threads. And quite frankly, that wouldn't be a bad thing if the threads were interesting, thought provoking, well thought out, and promoting discussion. But they're not. Just look at the first page.

So, a little rules review.

1. Be sure to use an accurate thread title. Per forum rules. Thread titles should not be in a "click on link to find out format". For instance, this is an example of a bad thread title:
"Main problem with Redskins...."
good thread title:
"The offensive line is the heart of the offensive problem"

Also, ALL articles posted should have the source followed by the title of the article. Example of bad thread title:
"Mike Wise says Redskins Suck"
good thread title:
"WP: Redskins Suck (Mike Wise article)"


2. Use the search feature. This is not an option or a recommendation, it is a requirement to start a new thread. I have seen dozens of redundant threads being started over the past 24 hours. It is pushing discussion off the front page.


3. Above all, please be interesting. Contrary to what some might think, the majority of opinions are really not that original. They can very easily be placed in an existing thread. You will be respected much more for it, trust me. Some of the best posters on ES rarely start threads. You know who you are. :)



I see a thread about tipping point on the front page. Well, the fanbase isn't the only thing at its tipping point. This board is at a tipping point too.

So before you click that New Thread button, be sure... extra sure... that the topic has not already been posted, that your premise is interesting, and that your thread title is properly formatted.

This is not a recommendation, this is a requirement.

Starting immediately, any threads that do not meet board criteria are going to be locked and the thread starter is going to be banned.

This is a position that the staff does not enjoy taking in the least, but in the best interest of extremeskins.com, we will do what needs to be done.

[Mark The Homer]

What's stunning is how often you're capable of ignoring guidelines amidst relatively few posts.

Rule 7 ignored:

http://extremeskins.com/showthread.php?t=290388

And today:

11. Please do not use the “Quote” feature to quote huge blocks of text or pictures.
If you would like to respond to the contents of a particular post, simply quote the sentence or idea that you're commenting upon, not necessarily the entire post. It wastes space on the database and unnecessarily extends and clutters threads.

[Jumbo]

How does Dan Snyder find time to own the team and rule the message boards with an iron fist? Stunning.

"Iron Fist" :hysterical:

You'd be long gone if it was. :)


Here's something else you may find stunning, and intended for all concerned. After actually being on the moderating side for four years, and knowing how 80% of the time we just ignore the clueless whining and squealing that's all too common when certain types of "adults" are actually given a "speeding ticket for speeding" on the interwebs, I'm considering just making profuse with immediates ban for such posts for awhile unless the "complaint" is relevant and supportable with valid evidence.

Someone else on staff used the phrase of "taking the board back from the <use your own term>" for the benefit of the majority of the posters here who "get it" and never have a problem following the rules or acting like an adult. As in what ES historically called "culling the herd" even before my time on ES.

This site is in no danger of losing popularity in membership numbers, and anyone really unhappy is reminded of the choices to post elsewhere, but ES became the success that it did because of the high standards that were set from the beginning and how the baord was run to meet those standards.

We're not going to willingly or easily give that up to make life more comfortable for those who choose to combine being a clueless pain with being a wiseass.

If you screw up on a rule and receive a mod action, accept it, or ask about it politely if you really feel you need a conversation about it (and be sure it's that important and you've already tried to figure it out on your own, minus any ego-driven huffing and puffing as a substitute for "thinking"), and then remembering to remain polite or at least quiet, move on.

The fact that I have to detail such simply matters to some "men" is dad.

Grow up or go away.

[Boleyn9]

Um, that was kind of the point, guy.


What's stunning is how often you're capable of ignoring guidelines amidst relatively few posts.

Rule 7 ignored:

http://extremeskins.com/showthread.php?t=290388

And today:

11. Please do not use the “Quote” feature to quote huge blocks of text or pictures.
If you would like to respond to the contents of a particular post, simply quote the sentence or idea that you're commenting upon, not necessarily the entire post. It wastes space on the database and unnecessarily extends and clutters threads.

[Jumbo]

Um, that was kind of the point, guy.


It seems like you may have been mis-read, which I wondered about (and why I made sure most of my post was addressed "generally"), but even if so, you helped by getting more instructive info out there even while you were horribly misunderstood :D

We also may be experiencing battle fatigue. :laugh:

[BuddyLeeGhostHunter]

2. Use the search feature. This is not an option or a recommendation, it is a requirement to start a new thread.So, when can I create a new thread again? I used the search function and it came up with nil.

[Jumbo]

So, when can I create a new thread again? I used the search function and it came up with nil.

I'm going to pretend you're serious, because around here you never know. :laugh:


I'd have you start with explaining to us how it is you don't know the procedure "get out" of your NNT status. You've been here more than long enough and have posted over 2000 times. That's about as many times as the answer has been posted in the forum. Not to mention that the infamous Official NNT thread has been stickied to the top of this and other forums for half the months (and not all at one time) that you've been a member. See where I'm going with this? :evilg:

Perfectly enough, and terminally relevant to what I am inferring here (and will be more blunt about later), the answer is posted yet again in this very thread. So how motivated are you to regain thread-starting privileges?:D

[btfoom]

I'm going to pretend you're serious, because around here you never know. :laugh:
......

Ummm, by the way, who is this "Jumbo" person I consistently see mentionend on this fine sight?? :D

[DMVSkins]

There are wwwwwaaaaayyyyyy to many I Hate Jason Campbell threads can they start getting locked. I know people have gotten creative in there thread names but it always turns into another I Hate Jason Campbell thread.

[BuddyLeeGhostHunter]

I'm going to pretend you're serious, because around here you never know. :laugh:


I'd have you start with explaining to us how it is you don't know the procedure "get out" of your NNT status. You've been here more than long enough and have posted over 2000 times. That's about as many times as the answer has been posted in the forum. Not to mention that the infamous Official NNT thread has been stickied to the top of this and other forums for half the months (and not all at one time) that you've been a member. See where I'm going with this? :evilg:

Perfectly enough, and terminally relevant to what I am inferring here (and will be more blunt about later), the answer is posted yet again in this very thread. So how motivated are you to regain thread-starting privileges?:DI'm interested in Redskins news not forum drama, which is why I've never delved into reading as much.

Guess I'll start digging now.

[BuddyLeeGhostHunter]

The most common ways to receive a No New Threads action is if your thread is or is duplicating a topic being actively discussed in existing threads.

My particular topic wasn't being 'actively' discussed in existing threads. However, in order to appease the mods I'll admit that I pulled an epic fail in not performing a search which reached the depths of these forums. I'm wrong, you're right. I'm on my knee's, yada yada yada.:rotflmao:

Do you want me to clog your PM or e-mail box by sending this?:)

[NewCliche21]

There are wwwwwaaaaayyyyyy to many I Hate Jason Campbell threads can they start getting locked. I know people have gotten creative in there thread names but it always turns into another I Hate Jason Campbell thread.

+1

What's the point of this thread if it's not enforced? There should be no more "Campbell Sucks" threads. Starting one should be NNT and a three-day ban, no questions asked. Instead, I see mods posting in them saying, "Don't like it? Don't bump it!" Well, I can't bump it above this sticky stating that we should NOT have those threads, can I?

Yes, I'm pissy because I've been home sick for three days and really used to enjoy this board. Now it's just the Campbell hatred fanclub.

[btfoom]

My particular topic wasn't being 'actively' discussed in existing threads. However, in order to appease the mods I'll admit that I pulled an epic fail in not performing a search which reached the depths of these forums. I'm wrong, you're right. I'm on my knee's, yada yada yada.:rotflmao:

Do you want me to clog your PM or e-mail box by sending this?:)

The answer to your current situation is contained in the post shown above, just not the 'whole' post. Just a little friendly advice. ;)

[Jumbo]

My particular topic wasn't being 'actively' discussed in existing threads. However, in order to appease the mods I'll admit that I pulled an epic fail in not performing a search which reached the depths of these forums. I'm wrong, you're right. I'm on my knee's, yada yada yada.:rotflmao:

Do you want me to clog your PM or e-mail box by sending this?:)


Well, you do seem to be demonstrating that reading and comprehension, as well as general awareness, are sometimes a struggle for you if that's all you got out of the post you quoted. And, in this great example of self-defeating effort, you're wrong in your protestation of basic innocence. You even acknowldged it in the actual post that got you nailed.


Apparently this has been posted before but a search turned up nothing for me. So you started the new thread, knowing it already existed, simply because (you claim) your search (competency highly suspect) didn't turn it up.

Another member showed you the link to the original thread in post #11 minutes after you started your thread, and the mod that gave you the NNT found it immediately, too, after getting the reported post.

"Actively" is not the only criteria in play as the post you quoted makes clear, but even so, your attitude is the opposite of what's requested in the matter (or any matter if you're looking for most effective dealings with staff).

Here's a clue. If you know the exact topic already exists, don't duplicate it while announcing you know it's there but "couldn't find it."

There are other things you can do in such a situation besides making a dupe thread on such a specific topic, if you have a pressing need to contribute in such a situation, and you should explore those alternatives. ;)

But regarding my red highlighting, nope, it will serve no good purpose on your end to clog PM or e-mail with your response. As of now, it would likely just result in your third ban.

I entered it in your user notes, so you're probably set an NNT for a long time given your choices to date.

And your 2000 + posts, including actual content, are at odds with your proposition that "I'm interested in Redskins news not forum drama, which is why I've never delved into reading as much" and renders it a bit disingenuous. We do have a separate news forum, if you prefer, where you can read all about the 'skins without posting. So in your case, ignorance is an even poorer excuse than in most. :)

[Jumbo]

+1

What's the point of this thread if it's not enforced? There should be no more "Campbell Sucks" threads. Starting one should be NNT and a three-day ban, no questions asked. Instead, I see mods posting in them saying, "Don't like it? Don't bump it!" Well, I can't bump it above this sticky stating that we should NOT have those threads, can I?

Yes, I'm pissy because I've been home sick for three days and really used to enjoy this board. Now it's just the Campbell hatred fanclub.

New Cliche. You need to shut up now about board management. You've had 8 mod actions form 5 different mods and the requests to perma ban you have been numerous.

But you're not in danger of that as far as I know---and you do love the board. It seems you're just relatively clueless on much of our rules (most of your reported posts also support that contention) and real forum management yet sound off about it regularly.

I'm not even going to bother to detail why your comment about the "pro-JC" or "anti-JC" thread proliferation can not be dealt with in any way much better than we do and have done with any similar dynamic (like HC/Snyder/Porits, ****ing LaVar after two years and remember the Ramsey and then Brunell days? :D) as is the case on any such board.

So it's official: no more amateur modding or kibitizing from you for awhile. :)

[BuddyLeeGhostHunter]

Well, you do seem to be demonstrating that reading and comprehension, as well as general awareness, are sometimes a struggle for you if that's all you got out of the post you quoted. And, in this great example of self-defeating effort, you're wrong in your protestation of basic innocence. You even acknowldged it in the actual post that got you nailed.

So you started the new thread, knowing it already existed, simply because (you claim) your search (competency highly suspect) didn't turn it up.

Another member showed you the link to the original thread in post #11 minutes after you started your thread, and the mod that gave you the NNT found it immediately, too, after getting the reported post.

"Actively" is not the only criteria in play as the post you quoted makes clear, but even so, your attitude is the opposite of what's requested in the matter (or any matter if you're looking for most effective dealings with staff).

Here's a clue. If you know the exact topic already exists, don't duplicate it while announcing you know it's there but "couldn't find it."

There are other things you can do in such a situation besides making a dupe thread on such a specific topic, if you have a pressing need to contribute in such a situation, and you should explore those alternatives. ;)

But regarding my red highlighting, nope, it will serve no good purpose on your end to clog PM or e-mail with your response. As of now, it would likely just result in your third ban.

I entered it in your user notes, so you're probably set an NNT for a long time given your choices to date.

And your 2000 + posts, including actual content, are at odds with your proposition that "I'm interested in Redskins news not forum drama, which is why I've never delved into reading as much" and renders it a bit disingenuous. We do have a separate news forum, if you prefer, where you can read all about the 'skins without posting. So in your case, ignorance is an even poorer excuse than in most. :)

Well, thanks for the consideration and the lambasting for making a minute mistake for the first time in years.

The link to the video I provided mentioned something about Extremeskins. A search turned up nothing for me. Perhaps I should have searched more extensively.


your attitude I'm not entirely sure what you mean by this either. Of course, I don't look for the worst in people.


And your 2000 + posts, including actual content, are at odds with your proposition that "I'm interested in Redskins news not forum drama, which is why I've never delved into reading as much" and renders it a bit disingenuous. We do have a separate news forum, if you prefer, where you can read all about the 'skins without posting. So in your case, ignorance is an even poorer excuse than in most. :) I read a lot of the news and threads. I would most likely start new threads in the Caps section as it's slower over there than in the Stadium where the same thing is posted 100 times.

[Jumbo]

Well, thanks for the consideration and the lambasting for making a minute mistake for the first time in years.


Dude, you were not "lambasted" in my book, you were held accountable for your own words and in a similar manner as presented in your response. And, continuing our different perceptions of reality, as I referenced in my post, this was not "a minute mistake for the first time if years." It was a gratutious error on your part, and it wasn't your first time. That said, and your misplaced implication that I might look for the worst in people aside, I don't view you as a regular rule breaker at all---maybe more of as a typically argumentative and sometimes oppositional message board poster. :)

My suggestion: quit while you're only so far behind, and figure out how to get off of NNT, and go talk football (or go to the tailgate and take your chances posting on anything :D).

[BuddyLeeGhostHunter]

Dude, you were not "lambasted" in my book, you were held accountable for your own words and in a similar manner as presented in your response. And, continuing our different perceptions of reality, as I referenced in my post, this was not "a minute mistake for the first time if years." It was a gratutious error on your part, and it wasn't your first time. That said, and your misplaced implication that I might look for the worst in people aside, I don't view you as a regualr rule breaker---maybe more of as a typically argumentative and sometimes oppositional message board poster. :)

My suggestion: quit while you're only so far behind, and figure out how to get off of NNT, and go talk football (or go to the tailgate and take your chances posting on anything :D).:silly:Alrighty. I'll go cause some trouble in my postings and not my threads.

[Jumbo]

:silly:Alrighty. I'll go cause some trouble in my postings and not my threads.

Works for me, I can handle my end. And as a gesture, based on the choice you made to not continue with the arguing or excuse-making, I will remove you from NNT and trust you will make the most of the gift.

You did at least go through this thread and find the relevant post as I was sugegsting you do--that's more than many accomplish.

[BuddyLeeGhostHunter]

Works for me, I can handle my end. And as a gesture, based on the choice you made to not continue with the arguing or excuse-making, I will remove you from NNT and trust you will make the most of the gift.

You did at least go through this thread and find the relevant post as I was sugegsting you do--that's more than many accomplish.
Thanks a bunch. I think I'll stay out of the tailgate though as that place is frightning at times.:rotflmao:

[CandaceM23]

I vote for ruling with an iron fist ....

Viva la ban.

Srsly.

[Mark The Homer]

?

Who is this CandaceM23 person?

Srsly.

[Jumbo]

?

Who is this CandaceM23 person?

Srsly.


Just another woman I admire from afar. :D

[CandaceM23]

Hi MTH! Hi Jumbo!

I'm in Florida now. I've got some free time on my hands ... I'm making it a point to stop in and catch up on the reading and the free entertainment. Seems like this place has a bunch of morons now. Rules are easy to follow ... I've pushed buttons numerous times but I've never been banned. There's a fine line that you can't cross. I don't understand why people can't/don't get it. Oh wait, I do. ES is life! :o)

I love this place!!!

[Mark The Homer]

Candace, if anybody is an expert at not quite stepping over the line - but stepping on it and teetering dangerously over it, you are. You could write a book.

Don't be a stranger and enjoy the Florida sunshine.

:secret: it's 82 and sunny here today

[tshile]

why hello there.

look whats goin on in this here thread

[TK]

Hi MTH! Hi Jumbo!

I'm in Florida now. I've got some free time on my hands ... I'm making it a point to stop in and catch up on the reading and the free entertainment. Seems like this place has a bunch of morons now. Rules are easy to follow ... I've pushed buttons numerous times but I've never been banned. There's a fine line that you can't cross. I don't understand why people can't/don't get it. Oh wait, I do. ES is life! :o)

I love this place!!!
How are the Japanese steakhouses & bewbie bars? ;)

[CandaceM23]

Seriously ... there are probably 10 Japanese Steakhouses within one mile from our place. Probably the same amount of bewbie bars .... and there are a ton of Adam and Eve stores.

I'm going through withdrawl ... we're in Orlando for the weekend. I'm headed down to the bar now to get my share of debauchery for the day. :)

[Jumbo]

I will be putiing up this week's edition of the "Rant" thread a few minutes before game time...

[CRAZYHORSE19682003]

I really got to love you guys, control the boards, try to eliminate any negative discussion about the deadskins. Only let the Jason Campbell apologists talk. Censorship at its best. Can you tell me what it is like to have your head so far up Daniel Snyder's rear end you can tell us what he had for dinner last night?

[Jumbo]

I really got to love you guys, control the boards, try to eliminate any negative discussion about the deadskins. Only let the Jason Campbell apologists talk. Censorship at its best. Can you tell me what it is like to have your head so far up Daniel Snyder's rear end you can tell us what he had for dinner last night?





I wanted to help you look like something other than a complete moron, so to enhance your credibility (I know, a task beyond Herculean) on the censorship dealio I banned you. :)

[Mark The Homer]

Can you tell me what it is like to have your head so far up Daniel Snyder's rear end you can tell us what he had for dinner last night?





I wanted to help you look like something other than a complete moron, so to enhance your credibility (I know, a task beyond Herculean) on the censorship dealio I banned you. :)<applause>

[RedSunday]

<applause>

Mark, I know you're a big game man ,you love going to the games .How bad does this team have to get for you to take a stand and not go?How bad must ownership screw up before we as fans of the Skins ....revolt?
Back in the 70's the Giants ownership was in such bad shape the fans were burning game tickets at the gate.Pete Rosell(sp) was so mad he made the Giants hire George Young......a GM and he turned things around.
My question to you and other die hard Skins fans who never miss a game.........when is enough ,enough?

[Mark The Homer]

Hi,

tag search: nnt

read and figure out what you have to do to get off NNT

Start a thread on this. Then we'll talk.

[Fan035]

Quite frankly, this is the only Board where I have no clue what topic is okay. I think I'm creating something new but my thread is almost always eliminated. I started "What Did Sherm See?" and there were some good (amusing) responses. What was wrong with that?

[Jumbo]

Quite frankly, this is the only Board where I have no clue what topic is okay. I think I'm creating something new but my thread is almost always eliminated.

My first suggestion would refrain from trying on any gameday in particular if you don't know for sure. This is a very large and active board and this is it's businest day each week. Much easier to "go wrong."

It shouldn't be hard for you to figure out what happned to your last thread if you put any effort into it. In the OP of this thread, and of the "rant" thread, you would find several criteria yours didn't meet, though during the week it may easily been given the benefit of the doubt if there hadn't been several active 'Sherm" threads, then. One quick tip---it pays a lot to really develop your OP beyond a casual sentence or two for most topics.

As it was, the kindness showed you was that you didn't get an NNT because it wasn't a gratuitiously <fill in the blank> effort.

It sounds like you're having repeated problems from what you wrote here--if so, knowing what I know, I'd say maybe you're better off just posting your thoughts as comments in existing threads, just as the first post in your last thread could have/should have been today.

Everyone can consider this a form letter. :D

[Fan035]

I consider myself a considerate poster unlike several here who are rude. I also think I'm creative. But I'll take your suggestion and not open any new threads.

[Jumbo]

I consider myself a considerate poster unlike several here who are rude. I also think I'm creative. But I'll take your suggestion and not open any new threads.


As far as I know, you represent yourself accurately enough. You have no mod actions, and you were not given an NNT today. :)

Note that, and note exactly what my suggestions/comments were, and maybe apply it to gameday mostly. I'd say don't just totally "give up." It's not like suffering has been involved. Having a thread closed, and no other actions, is not that big a deal. :)

[Fan035]

You're right - it's not a big deal. What's a big deal is the state of the Redskins. But I think I have something to offer and feel somewhat stifled. Perhaps I'll try again on a non-Redskin game day.

[tshile]

You're right - it's not a big deal. What's a big deal is the state of the Redskins. But I think I have something to offer and feel somewhat stifled. Perhaps I'll try again on a non-Redskin game day.
good idea.

right now theres a 'this is why we lost the game' and 'this is why our franchise sucks' thread popping up every minute.

so if what you want to post could be interpreted as one of those two types of threads, best wait :)

that being said - this franchise sucks, and dan snyder is the reason we lost today.

[Fan035]

It really wasn't one of those two types. It was questioning what our new pair of eyes saw today. Some of the responses were funny and I think humor is helpful right now.

I agree with your concluding line. I tried to explain to my grandchildren the Redskins were once a good team. They find that hard to believe and compare them with the infestation of stink bugs in their home right now.

[CapitalDefense]

ding dong the witch is dead

[Mark The Homer]

You trying to get noticed?

Yeah, we see your sig with its green glow and over-sized bold font. And yeah, I noticed you keep editing it in hopes of attracting attention.

And no, nobody is going to edit it or delete it until it breaks a rule.

In the meantime, you keep showing the board how clueless you are. :)

[btfoom]

I really got to love you guys, control the boards, try to eliminate any negative discussion about the deadskins. Only let the Jason Campbell apologists talk. Censorship at its best. Can you tell me what it is like to have your head so far up Daniel Snyder's rear end you can tell us what he had for dinner last night?




Please tell me you forgot to put the 'sarcastic' smiley at the end of that post.

[rnealr001]

I couldn't agree more with this statement. It is my opinion, that this team hasn't been the same since J.K.C. I personally don't like the Idea of trying to institute the West Coast Offense into this team. Seems to me it's been tried before and it didn't work then either. It's like trying to put a 44 cal. bullet, into a 38 special, it just doesn't fit. As for the ownership of the team. I feel that the present owner of the Redskins is like a little rich kid in the toy store with Daddy's credit card. Whatever attracts his attention, he's gotta have, even if he doesn't know a thing about what he's buying. If the guy had some integrity, he'd sell the team to someone who cares about the organization, the fans, and the reputation that comes with the territory. I hope for all Redskin fans that this fool has an epiphany real soon......

[Jumbo]

You trying to get noticed?

Yeah, we see your sig with its green glow and over-sized bold font. And yeah, I noticed you keep editing it in hopes of attracting attention.

And no, nobody is going to edit it or delete it until it breaks a rule.

In the meantime, you keep showing the board how clueless you are. :)

Of course, it's a dude with six mod actions involving five different mods of past and present staff and a varoety of rule violations, so clueless remains consistent.

[Mark The Homer]

lol - I noticed that.

[Jumbo]

lol - I noticed that.

Umm, but I'm actually wondering what the deal is, since the first four of those links I cliecked on aren't to threads that were closed...maybe it's a sarcasm sig :D

Maybe he's gone sraight, and that sig is his way of countering the lame ass accusations of that type, and then we bashed him :D (if not, I'm giving him a great "out" here :laugh: )

[Mark The Homer]

Well, I think you hit the nail on the head when you said "wood...."

Oh. Nevermind. :silly:

[Jumbo]

Well, I think you hit the nail on the head when you said "wood...."

Oh. Nevermind. :silly:


:silly:...it's good to have fun every now and then ;)

[DRSmith]

I would read it but what is the point :D

[Jumbo]

I would read it but what is the point :D

:hysterical: Not bad, Dr, not bad. ;) :)

[Mark The Homer]

Oh, I get it now lol

[Rdskn4Lyf21]

Of course, it's a dude with six mod actions involving five different mods of past and present staff and a varoety of rule violations, so clueless remains consistent.

What's all this talk about mod actions being a bad thing?

It just means that we are cared about and you are trying to direct us on the straight and narrow path :D

[Da Truth]

Quite frankly, this is the only Board where I have no clue what topic is okay. I think I'm creating something new but my thread is almost always eliminated. I started "What Did Sherm See?" and there were some good (amusing) responses. What was wrong with that?

Thats how I feel too so I just respond now since folks get banned on here at the drop of a dime and all I'm trying to do is enjoy good Redskin talk

[CandaceM23]

It's all about common sense ... which many of us don't have. It's simple - use your brain and think wisely. Is your post going to press buttons, if so, then it might be ok. Is your post downright offensive, if so, then you can probably bet on some form of mod action. Are you cursing and breaking rules on a regular basis, you can probably count on being banned.

With a forum as large as this, you need to think wisely before you post. Especially on game days. Chances are that there's at least a few other members who are thinking the same thing and who have posted something incredibly similar to your thoughts. Warnings have been given multiple times to not spew typed vomit onto the boards on game days - yet folks get so bent out of shape and insist on posting, become bitter when threads are moved or merged and go on the attack against mods.

It's a very simple folks ... try to use the brain that's in your head ... use common sense if you have any ... if you see something similar to what you're wanting to post, just post in that thread along with all of the other garbage. There's no need to single yourself out and create another garbage thread when there are already so many of them.

:)


Viva la ban.

[Jumbo]

Thats how I feel too so I just respond now since folks get banned on here at the drop of a dime and all I'm trying to do is enjoy good Redskin talk

Then, if you really want to survive here and have a brain somewhat more functional then a small soap dish, you'll leave inaccurate passive/agressive bull**** like this out of your posts for a change. :)

[Da Truth]

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[skinsfan_1215]

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Hehe that won't fool the mods. They have super-duper magical powers.

[Jumbo]

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You know, of course, we can see what you wrote prior to edit. :D

Seriously, I think you'll make out fine if you just quit. :)

You received your NNT and your 2 day ban as the giant red text in the OP of this very sticky thread forewarned (in extra-attempt-to-give-a-chance fashion) for a very gratuitous error. No one gets banned "at the drop of a dime."

:)

[NewCliche21]

I wonder if this thread would exist if we were 5-0. :whoknows:

[skinsfan_1215]

ooo post what he wrote! lol

[skinsfan_1215]

I wonder if this thread would exist if we were 5-0. :whoknows:

Of course not, we'd all be happy so the mods wouldn't have anything to censor. :paranoid:

[Jumbo]

I wonder if this thread would exist if we were 5-0. :whoknows:

Unlikely. Winning improves reasoning, judgment, and social skills. :D


:point2sky:point2sky:point2sky:point2sky:point2sky :point2sky:point2sky:point2sky

[Coolio47]

So are NNT's permanent? Because I saw a report on espn.com about players wanting the FO to give Zorn a vote of confidence or what have you, I kept typing those key words into the search function but the loading bar would just say "Done" and it would be a white screen.

After a while I gave up trying to use the search bar function and went to sift through the thread titles but didn't see it(Either I missed it or the titles were mislabeled). I ended up posting the article and within a couple of hours(estimating) I got an NNT.

My bad, I know, but it will kinda make me a sad panda:( that I won't be able to contribute to the thread ideas. I actually had a good Idea for a thread that I think would have been fun for others and it would get a few chuckles and release the frustration out a bit. Oh wells:silly:

[Skeptic Overlord]

So are NNT's permanent? Because I saw a report on espn.com about players wanting the FO to give Zorn a vote of confidence or what have you, I kept typing those key words into the search function but the loading bar would just say "Done" and it would be a white screen.

After a while I gave up trying to use the search bar function and went to sift through the thread titles but didn't see it(Either I missed it or the titles were mislabeled). I ended up posting the article and within a couple of hours(estimating) I got an NNT.



The key to the search function is simple:

Don't put a bunch of words in it and expect results. It overloads it and you get the white page.

Simply use one or maybe two keywords and see if anything comes back.

[Coolio47]

The key to the search function is simple:

Don't put a bunch of words in it and expect results. It overloads it and you get the white page.

Simply use one or maybe two keywords and see if anything comes back.

I think I used 3 at most the last few times, using different combinations each time. oh well, whattya gonna do :whoknows:

[Skeptic Overlord]

I think I used 3 at most the last few times, using different combinations each time. oh well, whattya gonna do :whoknows:

There is a way to search on Google too. It works better than the normal search.

[Coolio47]

There is a way to search on Google too. It works better than the normal search.

I really hate myself for not thinking of that LOL

[Jumbo]

I really hate myself for not thinking of that LOL

I appreciate your good attitude, coolio47. Along with the good advice you're getting, here's a link to the thread that spends most of it's life stickied at the top of the forums and tells how to get off NNT: :)

http://www.extremeskins.com/showthread.php?t=205285&page=1&pp=15&highlight=moderator+update

It's also a fun, if long, read if you're unfamiliar with it. :D


...and here's the link to the alternative google search that we ask people use, too...

http://extremeskins.com/showthread.php?t=242434&highlight=search

Our own search works better that it gets credit for, but it does take some learning to use effectively, so the google is much easier. The rules call for a careful visual scan of the first two pages of the forum before starting a new thread (along with the other requirements for properly starting new threads).

True, it is helpful if you're a regular reader and somewhat attentive to the board every few days because then you (should) have a sense of what conversations are already taking place (usually in more than one variation on the theme).

[polywog999]

I really hate myself for not thinking of that LOL
Good luck man! Just remember... don't post new threads during games(not a rule, just good advice)...
... and wait till you have a REALLY cool idea!

[Mark The Homer]

...and if the second link above isn't convenient, just go to google.com and type:

<keywords> site:extremeskins.com

[Coolio47]

Good luck man! Just remember... don't post new threads during games(not a rule, just good advice)...
... and wait till you have a REALLY cool idea!

I don't think I ever have because I usually watch the gameday thread while watching the game. Plus I know it would just get buried. Original or not :)

[Coolio47]

I appreciate your good attitude, coolio47. Along with the good advice you're getting, here's a link to the thread that spends most of it's life stickied at the top of the forums and tells how to get off NNT: :)

http://www.extremeskins.com/showthread.php?t=205285&page=1&pp=15&highlight=moderator+update

It's also a fun, if long, read if you're unfamiliar with it. :D


...and here's the link to the alternative google search that we ask people use, too...

http://extremeskins.com/showthread.php?t=242434&highlight=search

Our own search works better that it gets credit for, but it does take some learning to use effectively, so the google is much easier. The rules call for a careful visual scan of the first two pages of the forum before starting a new thread (along with the other requirements for properly starting new threads).

True, it is helpful if you're a regular reader and somewhat attentive to the board every few days because then you (should) have a sense of what conversations are already taking place (usually in more than one variation on the theme).

Thanks for the tips;), I have never had a problem with the search function before so I'm sure it was me. But the google thing is now bookmarked. I will be sure to PM you or another Mod(think I have PMed Zoony already but don't think it warranted me getting off NNT).

[Coolio47]

Don't everyone do what I did and overload the search function with keywords and end up posting the same article anyways. I would also use the google search function(which I was not aware of *facepalms*), and if all else fails, sift through all the threads.

*EDIT*: Also, if you do end up getting an NNT, look at the rules, see which one you broke, and pm a mod telling them how you screwed the pooch, and you will most likely end up being "kicked out" of the NNT club.:evilg:

[Jumbo]

For the record, far more of the members I interact with are able to handle simple matters while being a reasonable adult, like coolio47 was, as contrasted with those who complain, blame others, and tantrum--optional behaviors reflecting a different developmental stage. :D

[Coolio47]

For the record, far more of the members I interact with are able to handle simple matters while being a reasonable adult, like coolio47 was, as contrasted with those who complain, blame others, and tantrum--optional behaviors reflecting a different developmental stage. :D


LOL people suck sometimes :D

[motorhead]

So my friends!

What the heck is wrong with are team?

Why as Pearl Jam might say.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r76ACav7Yx4



HTTR!

[Mark Moseley]

I haven't been this dissappointed to be a Redskin fan since the Jack Pardee days

[Arlington Supper Club]

wouldnt this board be at least half as cluttered without the two most common posts:

1: Im sorry if this is no good/a repost/been covered/not to your liking/not allowed/unpopular/ etc etc etc

2: This thread should be locked/this is somewhere else/i dont like this/too low a post count to allow/do not know the guy etc etc

I mean really. Every thread starts with an appoligy and 90 per cent of the threads have a linch mob calling for it's closing. (that is unless the post count is over 2000, then apparently you may post at will) Why have an open forum if you only want information from the same 10 guys?

[Mark The Homer]

lol

Maybe you're exaggerating a little....

[Jumbo]

wouldnt this board be at least half as cluttered without the two most common posts:

1: Im sorry if this is no good/a repost/been covered/not to your liking/not allowed/unpopular/ etc etc etc

2: This thread should be locked/this is somewhere else/i dont like this/too low a post count to allow/do not know the guy etc etc

I mean really. Every thread starts with an appoligy and 90 per cent of the threads have a linch mob calling for it's closing. (that is unless the post count is over 2000, then apparently you may post at will) Why have an open forum if you only want information from the same 10 guys?

In other words, you mean if people wouldn't do what you just did and state a couple obvious things everybody knows and doesn't really need to post in a thread but does because they have a "need to share" and also add a couple of pointless and baseless brain farts about things that are real only in their head? In a word, yes. :laugh:

Although I agree the two types of posts you mention appear way more often than ideal, that is more a kind of a personal taste thing (bothered by it/not bothered) and style of expression (apologizing for your OP or it's merits) more than a board management matter.

We can and will make the decisions on whether the thread itself has merit by the rules.

But monitoring and deleting each post based on every whim of judgment of "quality" would of course be impossible and unwanted. Our rules give us pretty wide latitude. But if we just eliminated posts just because we thought they were "stupid", I'd have elminated yours. :evilg:

We let stupid live freely here (and it can't really be stopped anyway), as long as it's within the rules.

But we encourage all ES members to challenge all that's posted stupidly, staying within the rules, and hopefully with more intelligence in play than in that of their target.

And people can and do get a brief ban for posting those "in before the close" type posts.

But given the fact that human nature and message board realities are unlikely to be magically changed anytime soon, stupid posts will be as regular as anything else.

It is also fair for people to give an opinion on a thread's merit. Nothing wrong with that--it's part of all message board interactions. People should try to benefit from peer feedback. :D

It helps if the feedback has some thought behind it, even if it's a slam. :cool:

But having and enforcing our rules does help us do as much as possible and sure beats the alternative. Perfection still awaits. :)

As for your flatulence about post number count or just wanting info from the same 10 guys, since you're critiquing others, that's hardly the first time I've see you post something that seems pretty clueless. Noting the mod actions on your account, you have also seemed to have some of your own trouble with the rules on sigs and new threads, so I'm sure you have some ability to relate to the various challenges of postng on ES. ;)

And while it's exceptionally rare for me to mention grammar or spelling, I want to make a suggestion--learn to spell basic words like "apology" and "lynch" if you're going to be critical of others. :)

[Skinz128777]

Who ever controls what goes on for this board is a bunch of cry baby *******s!!!! This ****ing message board is a ****ing joke!!! Dick Heads!!!!!!

[Skinz128777]

Its a ****ing message board for christ sake you should be able to start any new thread you want. mother ****ers!!!! <pornographic suggestion edited out by staff>!!!!

[Mark The Homer]

Skinz128777 is no longer with us.

[DarrellsMyHero28]

Skinz128777 is no longer with us.

I'll miss him, his posts were always informative and thought provoking.

[Jumbo]

I'll miss him, his posts were always informative and thought provoking.

He was an inspiration for me and I dedicated much of my efforts to his early work in the field. The man may be gone, but his legend and his impact will live on forever.

Because, in the end...

Maybe its like Skinz128777 says. A fella ain't got a soul of his own, but only a piece of a big soul, the one big soul out there that belongs to everybody. And then it don't matter. Then I'll be all around in the dark. I'll be everywhere…Wherever there's a fight so hungry people can eat, I'll be there. Wherever there's a cop beating up a guy, I'll be there. I'll be in the way guys yell when they're mad...and I'll be in the way kids laugh when they're hungry and they know supper's ready…And when our people eat the stuff they raise, and live in the houses they build, I'll be there too.

:cool:

[DarrellsMyHero28]

Well played sir.

Well played.

[Outlaw Torn]

Skinz128777 is no longer with us.
But he was so much fun:mad:

[skinsfan_1215]

Lol this is starting to remind me of the suicide by mod thread. You know we should really bring that back. Then the real cleansing of the board could begin.

[Jumbo]

Lol this is starting to remind me of the suicide by mod thread. You know we should really bring that back. Then the real cleansing of the board could begin.

Some of us made that comment (about this tread) amongst ourselves some time ago. What's funny is how this was just a "lets all help clean-it-up board-wise" and "protect yourself by following the rules" heads up thread for the benefit of everyone that (as usual on the interwebz)attracted a small gaggle of typically clueless pontificators and boneheaded blackbelts in hari-kari. The Lemming is strong in many who ride these tubes. But they, too, only help in the end, even if just by throwing their furry little bodies over the edge of ES. :D

[Skeptic Overlord]

I think the important issue becomes figuring out what the "pornographic suggestion edited by staff" was.

[Clansea]

I think it started and ended with a "D" and rhymed with "sick ted" but I might be wrong.

Perhaps it was a suggestion to go perform carnal actions with one's self or one's close relations?

[BigRedskinDaddy]

...And while it's exceptionally rare for me to mention grammar or spelling, I want to make a suggestion--learn to spell basic words like "apology" and "lynch" if you're going to be critical of others. :)

Priceless. Good stuff J.


He was an inspiration for me and I dedicated much of my efforts to his early work in the field. The man may be gone, but his legend and his impact will live on forever.

Because, in the end...

Maybe its like Skinz128777 says. A fella ain't got a soul of his own, but only a piece of a big soul, the one big soul out there that belongs to everybody. And then it don't matter. Then I'll be all around in the dark. I'll be everywhere…Wherever there's a fight so hungry people can eat, I'll be there. Wherever there's a cop beating up a guy, I'll be there. I'll be in the way guys yell when they're mad...and I'll be in the way kids laugh when they're hungry and they know supper's ready…And when our people eat the stuff they raise, and live in the houses they build, I'll be there too.

:cool:

Ladies and gentlemen, Tom Joad! A big hand for our TGOW star! He'll be here all week. Try the veal. :D

[TK]

This forum is being spammed with too many threads. And quite frankly, that wouldn't be a bad thing if the threads were interesting, thought provoking, well thought out, and promoting discussion. But they're not. Just look at the first page.

So, a little rules review.

1. Be sure to use an accurate thread title. Per forum rules. Thread titles should not be in a "click on link to find out format". For instance, this is an example of a bad thread title:
"Main problem with Redskins...."
good thread title:
"The offensive line is the heart of the offensive problem"

Also, ALL articles posted should have the source followed by the title of the article. Example of bad thread title:
"Mike Wise says Redskins Suck"
good thread title:
"WP: Redskins Suck (Mike Wise article)"


2. Use the search feature. This is not an option or a recommendation, it is a requirement to start a new thread. I have seen dozens of redundant threads being started over the past 24 hours. It is pushing discussion off the front page.


3. Above all, please be interesting. Contrary to what some might think, the majority of opinions are really not that original. They can very easily be placed in an existing thread. You will be respected much more for it, trust me. Some of the best posters on ES rarely start threads. You know who you are. :)



I see a thread about tipping point on the front page. Well, the fanbase isn't the only thing at its tipping point. This board is at a tipping point too.

So before you click that New Thread button, be sure... extra sure... that the topic has not already been posted, that your premise is interesting, and that your thread title is properly formatted.

This is not a recommendation, this is a requirement.

Starting immediately, any threads that do not meet board criteria are going to be locked and the thread starter is going to be banned.

This is a position that the staff does not enjoy taking in the least, but in the best interest of extremeskins.com, we will do what needs to be done.
Preemptive game bump. :)
:eaglesuck

[skinsfan_1215]

Preemptive game bump. :)
:eaglesuck

Damn good thing I saw this. I was getting ready to start a thread entitled, "Jason Campbell." Its contents were going to be, "Just saw he's starting, wtf!?!?!?!" You saved me TK.

[Jumbo]

I've only closed one thread...TK's on his game...lol

[TK]

Game on bitches. :)

[National Defense]

methinks you need a new avatar--one with actual threadcalling and closing responsiblity

[polywog999]

methinks you need a new avatar--one with actual threadcalling and closing responsiblity
"The Closer."

[Major Harris]

I hope not. I hope we don't ban anyone. I hope instead folks read this and the problem is resolved.

....
you lie!

[Jumbo]

yeh...here's one...don't start a thread and type something like "mods, if this is ****ed up in some way, please delete" in the op like that somehow makes everything ok or is even necessary...first it's "close" not "delete" just to get that straight...next, we will close threads when we call it, independent on whether someone types that in it or not...and finally, it in no way will automatically safegaurd you from an NNT or anything else...just fwiw :)