The question is simple: Is it time for the paperbags?

[SMOSS89]

Well, is it?

[tshile]

edit: copy past from a post i made yesterday in a different thread:

That being said, I think its a bit rash to be behaving the way our fanbase is. The media i'll accept, because they need news to sell, and nothing sells like negative 'x franchise has hit the fan'. But lets be compeltely realistic here.
the team is 1-2.

They could become 14-2, or 1-15, or anywhere in between. Thats the reality of the situation. There's a reason they play the game, and don't just compare numbers on paper, to decide a winner. The cliche of 'any given sunday' is a cliche because its true - as lame as it is to use it.

Yes, we have 1 terrible loss, 1 terrible win, and 1 loss that should have been a win but we made too many mistakes to an oponent thats too good (giants).

Its unrealistic to expect them to make the playoffs based on tehir performance over the first 3 weeks. But if they start playing different... if the attitude changes... if momentum changes... anything is possible.

I'm a homer, I realise that, but this mentality that we're already doomed is getting a little ridiculous. People are preparing to wear bags over their head... To boo the team before they even play a snap (i'ma ll for booing a bad performance, but not when the team is introduced at the start of the game)...

It could honestly take 1 good drive to get everyone in rhythem for the rest of the season, 1 good game, hell, one good play. (I was hoping the moss TD last week would be teh spark, but it wasn't).

anyway, my .02, and didn't want to make a new thread.

[Alvin_Walton40]

Are steelers fans going to wear paper bags? What about the titans?


To be fair the Steelers won the SB last year and the Titans owned the best record on football last year.

[tshile]

To be fair the Steelers won the SB last year and the Titans owned the best record on football last year.
yeah.

and now they're 1-2 and 0-3.

is it because the teams are truely that bad?

of course not

they had a couple of bad games, things not go their way. The pats lost to the bills - ist that because the Bills are the better team?

Its a 16 game season for a reason... to bail this earily is about as ridiculous as it was to proclaim playoffs at 6-2 last year. anything can happen. Hell the cardinals went to the superbowl with a 9-7 record.

I'm not saying there's any reason for anyone to think this team will still make the playoffs. Don't mistake my intentions here. I'm only saying that to bail after week 3 is a bit short-sighted.

[McD5]

I have a question.

Does Fedex let you bring signs into the game?

If so, I am flying up from Florida, specifically for the purpose of bringing two signs.

One will say "Fire Vinny."

The other will say "Turn complete control over to a real GM."

Thanks.

[Stugein]

Not yet. Not by a far measure.

[ThePreciating]

Don't forget our Skins are undefeated at home.

[Mark The Homer]

Paper bags is so 80s.

Why don't we all just drop trow as the team is announced?

(I am joking)

[Dan T.]

The optimist in me says there is still a chance the Redskins could be 4-2 heading in to week 7 against the Eagles. The team could band together in an us-against-the-world alliance in response to the firestorm of criticism. They could play with a fierce passion as if stung and awakened by a collective slap in the face.

Tampa, at Carolina, and Kansas City. There's still time to turn things around. The optimist in me says it could happen. Realistically, I'll believe it when I see it.

[McD5]

Paper bags is so 80s.

Why don't we all just drop trow as the team is announced?

(I am joking)

:hysterical: drop trow. Gross!

MTH....will they let me bring two poster board signs in?

[OldChelsea]

I have a question.

Does Fedex let you bring signs into the game?

If so, I am flying up from Florida, specifically for the purpose of bringing two signs.

One will say "Fire Vinny."

The other will say "Turn complete control over to a real GM."

Thanks.

Per stadium guide (http://www.redskins.com/gen/articles/Stadium_Guide_1621.jsp):

Banners

Banners are permitted at FedExField; however, guests may not display banners that advertise or mention products or services. Banners may not cover existing FedExField equipment or signage. Signs may not be made with metal or wood. Management reserves the right to remove any sign, including those deemed to be obscene, inappropriate or which obstructs the view of other guests. For the safety of all guests, banner poles are not permitted.

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[me again]

Something I noticed at the home opener: a surprisingly large number of unoccupied (albeit, of course, paid-for) seats...in a way that may speak louder than paper bag heads.

[TD_washingtonredskins]

I have a question.

Does Fedex let you bring signs into the game?

If so, I am flying up from Florida, specifically for the purpose of bringing two signs.

One will say "Fire Vinny."

The other will say "Turn complete control over to a real GM."

Thanks.

I'm OK with this type of thing. I think paper bags is going a little too far. Though permanently mediocre, we're not a team that turns in 3- or 4-win seasons year in and year out. Let's have some perspective.

This team was 10-6 in 2005.
This team was 9-7 in 2007.
This team was 8-8 in 2008.

They aren't "good", but they are far from paper bag bad.

[Brandon Lloyd Christmas]

:hysterical: drop trow. Gross!

MTH....will they let me bring two poster board signs in?


Per stadium guide (http://www.redskins.com/gen/articles/Stadium_Guide_1621.jsp):

Banners

Banners are permitted at FedExField; however, guests may not display banners that advertise or mention products or services. Banners may not cover existing FedExField equipment or signage. Signs may not be made with metal or wood. Management reserves the right to remove any sign, including those deemed to be obscene, inappropriate or which obstructs the view of other guests. For the safety of all guests, banner poles are not permitted.

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[me again]

Something I noticed at the home opener: a surprisingly large number of unoccupied (albeit, of course, paid-for) seats...in a way that may speak louder than paper bag heads.



so what you need to do McD5 is make a "i love ladel betts!" poster, but make the words removable for your real sign underneath, which is simple "FIRE VINNY NOW".

go stealth on fedex.

[Gibbs Hog Heaven]

No.

Never has been our style, hopefully never will be.

But everyone has a breaking point.

And nigh on two decades of almost constant mediocrity, manifested in a pitiful display against the Rams, finally brought out, for us at the stadium anyway, some serious displeasure.

Go to the Buccs game supporting them as normal, but if they put on another display of total ineptitude that disgraces the jerseys on their backs, let them know it with the boos etc. I would say stay away totally, and hit the organization where it hurts most, in the pocket. But realistically that's never gona' happen.

Not normally an advocate for booing en mass etc, but they need telling that they really are that bad and were sick to the back teeth of paying top dollar for the privilege.

Hail.

[Diss]

yeah.

and now they're 1-2 and 0-3.

is it because the teams are truely that bad?

of course not

they had a couple of bad games, things not go their way. The pats lost to the bills - ist that because the Bills are the better team?



With all due respect, you are COMPLETELY missing the point here.

First off, I do not want to see our fans wearing bags on their heads.

That said, this outrage is NOT about 1-2 THIS YEAR. It's about a DECADE (and more) of mediocrity and futility and wasted talent, potential, etc., etc., etc. Over and over and over again.

Fans with some smarts have finally woken up and are seeing the pattern repeating itself ONCE AGAIN. That's why there's such an outrage. Not because the team is 1-2 in 2009!! Come on!! It goes so much deeper than that. Comparing our 1-2 to the Titans 0-3 or the Steelers 1-2 could not be further off the mark.

I would trade places with the Titans or the Steelers RIGHT NOW, I guarantee you that.

The outrage is because this team is being and has been run like an absolute joke for the much better part of the last 10 years. More and more fans are no longer being blinded by the "we're just ONE STEP AWAY" crap. The product we have on the field right now is an absolute disgrace to the Redskins legacy. THOSE are the guys that should be wearing the bags on their heads, not the fans. Zorn should call the next game with a friggin' bag on his head.

The fans shouldn't humiliate themselves that way. They should either bring signs to the game or just not show up at all if they want to voice their opinions and make their disgust known. The fans are the one true constant in the storied legacy of this team, and we have been let down and disgraced by the product on the field way too many times for far too long now. THAT'S what the outrage is about.

[TheMarionBarberHitman]

np paperbags yet we are only on a 1 game losing streak no matter what team we lost to we still have to be loyal to our squad.

[MattFancy]

Paper bags is so 80s.

Why don't we all just drop trow as the team is announced?

(I am joking)

Did you see the pic of the Lions fan after the win that did this?

http://deadspin.com/5369661/lions-fan-enjoys-historic-victory-sans-pants

[Jofizz]

For Christ's sake, its week 4.

[HigSkin]

Come on people...NOOOOOOOOO!!!!

[Dan T.]

I think McD5 should combine his idea with Mark the Homer's:

Paint "Fire" on one ass cheek, "Vinny" on the other ass cheek, and then drop trou.

[Buford]

I think a good old fashioned chat aimed at the owners box would be perfect.

Maybe something like "Fire Vinny", or "Jack Kent Cooke".

Something you can hear on TV.

[LD0506]

I think that plastic bags would be more appropriate, then this issue would resolve itself.

[Diss]

I think a good old fashioned chat aimed at the owners box would be perfect.

Maybe something like "Fire Vinny", or "Jack Kent Cooke".

Something you can hear on TV.

Holy crap. A chant of "Jack Kent Cooke." I FREAKIN' LOVE THIS IDEA!! Someone make this happen!!!

[dexter's manley]

WAY past time.

And the record this season is only a small part of the reason.

This team and organization are a joke. Only a fool would support it right now with anything but the tough love required.

[kiingspadee]

yeah.

and now they're 1-2 and 0-3.

is it because the teams are truely that bad?

of course not

they had a couple of bad games, things not go their way. The pats lost to the bills - ist that because the Bills are the better team?

Its a 16 game season for a reason... to bail this earily is about as ridiculous as it was to proclaim playoffs at 6-2 last year. anything can happen. Hell the cardinals went to the superbowl with a 9-7 record.

I'm not saying there's any reason for anyone to think this team will still make the playoffs. Don't mistake my intentions here. I'm only saying that to bail after week 3 is a bit short-sighted.

Really? :doh: It was the Jets that beat them

[redskins35to7]

We should chant "Fire Snyder." I know it cant happen but its classier than "Snyder sucks," it kind of rhymes and you know we all wish it could happen. Just imagine Snyder hearing that while he sits in the owners box with Tom Cruise and Katie Holmes.

[youngestson]

Well, is it?

No.

[I-H8-DALLAS]

Holy crap. A chant of "Jack Kent Cooke." I FREAKIN' LOVE THIS IDEA!! Someone make this happen!!!

+1.....thats a message that would be directed soley at one person, and its better than boo'ing out players.

[Brandon Lloyd Christmas]

i hope everyone is aware that the junkies are organizing this for the bucs game. 10,000 paper bags with the 106.7 the fan logos on them.

this game is gonna be hilarious.

[Dan T.]

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c293/s7n03diddy/sad-redskin.jpg

[Tennessee Ed]

I think that plastic bags would be more appropriate, then this issue would resolve itself.

I support this idea.:rotflmao:

[Bryan81]

Anything to help this franchise see we are serious about the disapointment is helpful. Paperbags - sure go for it.

[Gibbs Hog Heaven]

I have a question.

Does Fedex let you bring signs into the game?

If so, I am flying up from Florida, specifically for the purpose of bringing two signs.

One will say "Fire Vinny."

The other will say "Turn complete control over to a real GM."

Thanks.

Going off your fantasy league for one, I'm guessing your not short of a buck or two my good man.

So if you want to do it in style, pay for that, or anything else applicable to this sham of an organization, on a massive cloth banner that can be unfurled the length of a section or two, or even better, the whole side of the field opposite the owners box, over folks heads.

That would REALLY send out a message.

Getting it into FedEx may be the stumbling block mind, but I'm sure you could come up with something.

Hail.

[Jofizz]

I think that plastic bags would be more appropriate, then this issue would resolve itself.

Post of the week.

[DCsportsfan53]

The optimist in me says there is still a chance the Redskins could be 4-2 heading in to week 7 against the Eagles. The team could band together in an us-against-the-world alliance in response to the firestorm of criticism. They could play with a fierce passion as if stung and awakened by a collective slap in the face.




The optimist in me, so far as the Redskins are concerned, is buried 6 feet deep nowadays. I've finally, fully and completely, come to understand and accept the undeniable fact that as long as Danny is making the decisions, refuses to hire a real GM and constantly overspends in FA we will be a mediocre team that occasionally lucks into a decent season. There's no getting around it anymore, all the excuses are gone, there's too much evidence for the possibility of a coincidence to be considered.

As such, until I see evidence of a drastic change in the way we do business, I won't buy another jersey of piece of merchandise and I will not renew my season tickets. I'm not even mad, I'm right where Czaban's at when he described it relating to the 5 stages of grief. I'm finally at acceptance, I'll cheer for them, but without expectation and without monetary support until I see some significant change because until then we will be mediocre and dissapointing.

[tone_dubbz]

Can we put a bag on Vinnie's head?

[Mark The Homer]

:hysterical: drop trow. Gross!

MTH....will they let me bring two poster board signs in?

Not really sure. Probably depends on the size. Also depends on what's written on them.

[tshile]

With all due respect, you are COMPLETELY missing the point here.

First off, I do not want to see our fans wearing bags on their heads.

That said, this outrage is NOT about 1-2 THIS YEAR. It's about a DECADE (and more) of mediocrity and futility and wasted talent, potential, etc., etc., etc. Over and over and over again.

Fans with some smarts have finally woken up and are seeing the pattern repeating itself ONCE AGAIN. That's why there's such an outrage. Not because the team is 1-2 in 2009!! Come on!! It goes so much deeper than that. Comparing our 1-2 to the Titans 0-3 or the Steelers 1-2 could not be further off the mark.

I would trade places with the Titans or the Steelers RIGHT NOW, I guarantee you that.

The outrage is because this team is being and has been run like an absolute joke for the much better part of the last 10 years. More and more fans are no longer being blinded by the "we're just ONE STEP AWAY" crap. The product we have on the field right now is an absolute disgrace to the Redskins legacy. THOSE are the guys that should be wearing the bags on their heads, not the fans. Zorn should call the next game with a friggin' bag on his head.

The fans shouldn't humiliate themselves that way. They should either bring signs to the game or just not show up at all if they want to voice their opinions and make their disgust known. The fans are the one true constant in the storied legacy of this team, and we have been let down and disgraced by the product on the field way too many times for far too long now. THAT'S what the outrage is about.

oh i completely understand.

this is about the last 10 years.

and I get it - trust me i do.

I just don't think 1-2 is the point to do it at... if things continue, definatly. but at 1-2, we're still in it as much as every other team out there. I'm just going against a knee-jerk reaction...

but trust me, i'm as upset about the last 10 (going on 11 years) as everyone else here... I'm just a little cautious about throwing the season away at 1-2.

[cyfar]

I think that plastic bags would be more appropriate, then this issue would resolve itself.

Okay. You come up with a prototype and lead off. :evilg:

[Hitman#21]

NO, there alot of other teams in worse shape than the skins.

[#98QBKiller]

Another loss to a ****ty TB team this weekend and it's officially time.

[Alvin_Walton40]

This FO needs a kick in the nuts. Brown bag them.

[Monkfan63]

I hope to see alot of paper bags out at FedEx!

[tshile]

here's the bigger problem, that you guys are neglecting.

You want to show your displeasure during the TB vs WAS game? Its going to get the lowest viewers of the week (unless detroit is playing at home...).


Why not wait until a prime time game? we've got 3 home prime time games - phi, nyg, and dal. Wouldn't you rather have 90k + fans wearing bags during a monday night game? on prime time?

Thats how you embarass snyder.

Not doing it during the bucs game...

[hadees]

Don't forget our Skins are undefeated at home.

Barely, I was at that game and although a win is a win it didn't exactly fill me with confidence.

[LarryMitchell]

We've only played 3 games this season. STFU. Brown bags... stupid.

[Portis for 6]

Yes... Bring a bag, and a Larry Michaels is a hack banner = get in free?

[WhoRUSupposed2Be]

The optimist in me says there is still a chance the Redskins could be 4-2 heading in to week 7 against the Eagles. The team could band together in an us-against-the-world alliance in response to the firestorm of criticism. They could play with a fierce passion as if stung and awakened by a collective slap in the face.

Tampa, at Carolina, and Kansas City. There's still time to turn things around. The optimist in me says it could happen. Realistically, I'll believe it when I see it.

This is the stance I'm taking also.

[Lloyd Braun]

There are two reasons for not wearing paper bags this week:

1. The bags might muffle the booing.

2. There is no theme. The Saints were the Aints. It is poor bag protocol to wear a bag without a solid theme.

[#98QBKiller]

We've only played 3 games this season. STFU. Brown bags... stupid.

Sounds like someone missed all three.

[MurrayH81]

No.

It's definitely time to chant "Snyder Sucks" and wear Anti-Snyder t-shirts.

Apparently, this will help the players determine who the fans are actually blaming for the miserable mediocrity we have put up with.

Apparently, cheering good plays, and turning our backs on the crap plays in total silence is the way to go, so that we don't damage the fragile ego's of professional millionaires.

Everyone do the chant -- "Dan Snyder Sucks!"

Make sure he hears it every home game, even with that box closed up.

[Chris Worthy]

To make the record books as the team that broke the lions losing streak? On top of that we always beat the lions whenever we played them.

The bag came out when They declined the flag to make it 3rd and 18 and the rookie ran it for a first down, just to have him hang his tongue out like he was Jordon in his prime or something.

See Im getting mad again....

[#98QBKiller]

The bag came out when They declined the flag to make it 3rd and 18 and the rookie ran it for a first down.

I think that was the tipping point for me too, I don't remember ever watching a Redskins game and being so appalled as I was when Zorn traded a Lions field goal for a touchdown.

[ECU-ALUM]

Holy crap. A chant of "Jack Kent Cooke." I FREAKIN' LOVE THIS IDEA!! Someone make this happen!!!

This would send a very loud and clear message to Mr. Snyder...I LOVE IT!

[McD5]

I wouldn't ever wear a bag.

I will be bringing two signs this weekend.

Looking forward to meeting everyone at the tailgate.


I will also try to get one side of the stadium saying "Fire"

Then the other side saying "Vinny"

Back and forth.

[9_to_42_td]

Wearing bags is just as bad as selling your tickets to Eagle fans.

[bird_1972]

yeah.

and now they're 1-2 and 0-3.

is it because the teams are truely that bad?

of course not

they had a couple of bad games, things not go their way. The pats lost to the bills - ist that because the Bills are the better team?

Its a 16 game season for a reason... to bail this earily is about as ridiculous as it was to proclaim playoffs at 6-2 last year. anything can happen. Hell the cardinals went to the superbowl with a 9-7 record.

I'm not saying there's any reason for anyone to think this team will still make the playoffs. Don't mistake my intentions here. I'm only saying that to bail after week 3 is a bit short-sighted.

Both the Steelers and Titans look WAY better in thier losses than we do in ours (or even our win against the Rams, for that matter).

To point out that we have as many losses as these teams and try to draw a comparison to it is to deliberately miss the point.

This team has shown no indication that the future will be any brighter than it is today. Basically, they suck.

It is time for the paper bags.

[bird_1972]

Wearing bags is just as bad as selling your tickets to Eagle fans.

If Snyder does it, why can't we?

[Chachie]

Actually I'd love a paper bag avatar like the one Laurent used to have. :)

[andyburd]

I have a question.

Does Fedex let you bring signs into the game?

If so, I am flying up from Florida, specifically for the purpose of bringing two signs.

One will say "Fire Vinny."

The other will say "Turn complete control over to a real GM."

Thanks.

I'm sure that will change things, Dan should listen

[tshile]

Both the Steelers and Titans look WAY better in thier losses than we do in ours (or even our win against the Rams, for that matter).

To point out that we have as many losses as these teams and try to draw a comparison to it is to deliberately miss the point.

This team has shown no indication that the future will be any brighter than it is today. Basically, they suck.

It is time for the paper bags.

yeah i'm doing a terrible job of conveying my point - i'll conceede that.

i'm more trying to draw comparisons between last season and this season.

last season we started 6-2, and ended 8-8. people jumped on early, about how good we were, and at the end of the season we weren't that good.

we've started this season 1-2, and all 3 games looked bad. i conceede there is no case to be made that if we play the rest of our 13 games the way we played the first 3, we will do better than 8-8.

all I'm saying is that momentum is a *****. and it has the tendency to switch drastically on teams - from game to game, from play to play, from season to season. i think its a bit much to forecast this season a failure already.

although I can't exactly blame anyone for doing so. I'm just voicing my opinion thats its a bit earily for the all the doom and gloom we've been saying.

the bottom line is we're more likely to go 1-15 than 14-2. just don't forget that there are possibilitys for both outcomes, and everything in between.

[Rob Mexico]

I will NEVER wear a bag. I am very very proud to be a Skins fan. Not very proud of their play but I will always be proud.

HAIL!

[LarryMitchell]

Sounds like someone missed all three.

No, I watched it, but I'm a real Redskins fan.

[tshile]

No, I watched it, but I'm a real Redskins fan.

your shtick of 'i'm a real fan and you're not' is getting really really old.

it's somewhat resembles an argument you hear kids under the age of 5 make.

[LarryMitchell]

your shtick of 'i'm a real fan and you're not' is getting really really old.

it's somewhat resembles an argument you hear kids under the age of 5 make.

People who boo their "favorite team" and wear paper bags over their heads are not real fans. Don't be a fan and be proud to wear the Jersey when they're doing good then turn around and wear a paper bag over your head in shame when they're doing bad. Support your team. You don't like it when your girlfriend boos you when you're in bed, so don't boo the Redskins.

Who uses the word shtick anyways? Cornball.

[Alvin_Walton40]

People who boo their "favorite team" and wear paper bags over their heads are not real fans. Don't be a fan and be proud to wear the Jersey when they're doing good then turn around and wear a paper bag over your head in shame when they're doing bad. Support your team. You don't like it when your girlfriend boos you when you're in bed, so don't boo the Redskins.

Who uses the word shtick anyways? Cornball.

troll.

[LarryMitchell]

troll.

0h shut up. I'm not a troll, you internet nerd. Get offline and get a job. I'm a fan who hates people who boo his team.

[Chicken Fried]

yeah.

and now they're 1-2 and 0-3.

is it because the teams are truely that bad?

of course not

they had a couple of bad games, things not go their way. The pats lost to the bills - ist that because the Bills are the better team?

Its a 16 game season for a reason... to bail this earily is about as ridiculous as it was to proclaim playoffs at 6-2 last year. anything can happen. Hell the cardinals went to the superbowl with a 9-7 record.

I'm not saying there's any reason for anyone to think this team will still make the playoffs. Don't mistake my intentions here. I'm only saying that to bail after week 3 is a bit short-sighted.
Yeah, they also didn't edge out the Rams by 2 points, fail to score 10 points against the Rams, and then lost to the DETROIT LIONS.

[pjfootballer]

I'll never wear a paper bag. I'm mad the team, but I'm not ashamed to be a fan. I little embarrassed at the loss to Detroit, but not ashamed. We don't live in New Orleans.

[Alvin_Walton40]

0h shut up. I'm not a troll, you internet nerd. Get offline and get a job. I'm a fan who hates people who boo his team.

So you go around trying to instigate internet fights with them? You sir have defined Troll.

[WSHRedskins3ATLBraves3]

No paper bags but bring the signs!

[LarryMitchell]

So you go around trying to instigate internet fights with them? You sir have defined Troll.


Big deal. You gonna call the interenet police? Get out of here.

[tshile]

People who boo their "favorite team" and wear paper bags over their heads are not real fans. Don't be a fan and be proud to wear the Jersey when they're doing good then turn around and wear a paper bag over your head in shame when they're doing bad. Support your team. You don't like it when your girlfriend boos you when you're in bed, so don't boo the Redskins.

Who uses the word shtick anyways? Cornball.

wow...

[tshile]

0h shut up. I'm not a troll, you internet nerd. Get offline and get a job. I'm a fan who hates people who boo his team.

the irony is strong in this post

[Gibbs Hog Heaven]

You don't like it when your girlfriend boos you when you're in bed, so don't boo the Redskins.

Painful memory? Your amongst friends, we won't tell. :evilg:

Hail.

[tshile]

typically two kinds of people try to be e-thugs these days.

the 5-15 year olds, but normally their spelling/grammar is terrible

and the 40+ year olds just learning how to use the internet.

[Ned Flanders]

troll.


0h shut up. I'm not a troll, you internet nerd. Get offline and get a job. I'm a fan who hates people who boo his team.


the irony is strong in this post


This series of events made me spit coffee on my monitor, and LOL!

[Jofizz]

Any true 'Skins fan is proud to wear the colors.

The bags will just let everyone know who the asshats are.

[LarryMitchell]

typically two kinds of people try to be e-thugs these days.

the 5-15 year olds, but normally their spelling/grammar is terrible

and the 40+ year olds just learning how to use the internet.

E-thug? Telling you you're a horrible Redskins fan made me an E-thug? Nice..

[InsaneBoost]

Paper bags? Honestly? Please tell me this is some sort of joke.

[LarryMitchell]

Any true 'Skins fan is proud to wear the colors.

The bags will just let everyone know who the asshats are.

Exactly my point. Wearing a bag over your head = fair-weather fan.

[InsaneBoost]

At some points I thought Jofizz and I were the only fans on this board minus a couple other people.

Glad to see I can add you to the list Larry.

[Jofizz]

FWIW, I'm also a legit Nationals fan (as is InsaneBoost), so I don't freak the **** when something goes wrong.

Patience, young padawans.

[tshile]

You don't like it when your girlfriend boos you when you're in bed, so don't boo the Redskins.

Who uses the word shtick anyways? Cornball.

notice the 'i'm clearly better than you' attitude along with the 'you obviously suck at sex/are a virgin'. if you were a bit more subtle it might work better.


0h shut up. I'm not a troll, you internet nerd. Get offline and get a job. I'm a fan who hates people who boo his team.
notice the - here, let me tell you what to do with yoru life - style of posting. and then the 'my opinion is clearly the correct one' attitude.


Big deal. You gonna call the interenet police? Get out of here.
'oh, wutcha gunna do huh? huh? call the po-lice? f the po-lice!'

E-thug? Telling you you're a horrible Redskins fan made me an E-thug? Nice..

your selective memory is classic.

whats even more classic, is that after asking 'who uses the work shtick anyway?', you then proceeded to call me a cornball.

i mean, i don't even have to make fun of you, i just use your own words...

[tshile]

Exactly my point. Wearing a bag over your head = fair-weather fan.
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=fair+weather+fan

actually, still going to the game when they're losing, negates any typical definition of the phrase 'fair-weather fan'.

but keep trying, you're doing a bang up job so far

[LarryMitchell]

your selective memory is classic.

whats even more classic, is that after asking 'who uses the work shtick anyway?', you then proceeded to call me a cornball.

i mean, i don't even have to make fun of you, i just use your own words...

Yes, it was classic. Congratulations on really getting me on that one. Ba dum chh..

[finbudguy]

I'm a big fan of the skins......

They just brought me an early Christmas gift.....

A Lions win!!!

Thanks!

its better to give than receive......

:hysterical:

[Jofizz]

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=fair+weather+fan

actually, still going to the game when they're losing, negates any typical definition of the phrase 'fair-weather fan'.

but keep trying, you're doing a bang up job so far

I could go on there and write that a fair-weather fan is a fan that goes on the 50 yard line during the game and drops a deuce.

Anything can be written on that site.

[LarryMitchell]

FWIW, I'm also a legit Nationals fan (as is InsaneBoost), so I don't freak the **** when something goes wrong.

Patience, young padawans.

I'm not truly into baseball, but I can feel your pain lol. They're having a pretty rough season. Yes, I am glad to be a true Redskins fan. Glad you're another.

[InsaneBoost]

I could go on there and write that a fair-weather fan is a fan that goes on the 50 yard line during the game and drops a deuce.

Anything can be written on that site.

Agreed.

Most people can agree on one thing with the fair-weather, they only support the team when they're winning. Unfortunately it's beginning to look like a lot of the ES members are that.

[LarryMitchell]

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=fair+weather+fan

actually, still going to the game when they're losing, negates any typical definition of the phrase 'fair-weather fan'.

but keep trying, you're doing a bang up job so far

Did you really just do an internet search to continue something every else let go on page 5? You should just stop...

[Gary Clark Fan]

no, i will be environment friendly and stick with plastic bags.

[tshile]

Agreed.

Most people can agree on one thing with the fair-weather, they only support the team when they're winning. Unfortunately it's beginning to look like a lot of the ES members are that.

i still support the team....

but i'm going to boo fi they play horrible against tampa bay.

i think, as someone who (yearly) invests quite a bit of money into the team, i have earned the right to show my displeasure at the product.

notice, i said 'if they play tampa bay poorly', and not 'as soon as they come on the field'. i am at least willing to give them the benefit of the doubt, and let them play the game before i do anything negative as a fan.

edit: i'm still making a bold predictiont aht they enter the playoffs this year... i honestly dont' think the team is as bad as they've played the first 3 games... so, i'm not jumping ship in any way. i just don't blame others who see bast my homerism and want to show how upset they are to snyder and the players. its their right if they bought a ticket to the game. and its not yoru right to call into question their fanhood. if they turn around and start cheering for another team, fine. but they're still going to the game...

[tshile]

Did you really just do an internet search to continue something every else let go on page 5? You should just stop...

yeah, googling is a ***** these days. you know, it takes forever to search for osmething like that

hey, why don't you comment some more on my sex life, and tell me I need to get a job. common ethug, i know you got it in you!

[LarryMitchell]

yeah, googling is a ***** these days. you know, it takes forever to search for osmething like that

hey, why don't you comment some more on my sex life, and tell me I need to get a job. common ethug, i know you got it in you!

Again... left on page five. Do you like holding on to things no one talks about anymore?

[InsaneBoost]

i still support the team....

but i'm going to boo fi they play horrible against tampa bay.

i think, as someone who (yearly) invests quite a bit of money into the team, i have earned the right to show my displeasure at the product.

notice, i said 'if they play tampa bay poorly', and not 'as soon as they come on the field'. i am at least willing to give them the benefit of the doubt, and let them play the game before i do anything negative as a fan.

I own season tickets as well, which I assume is what you are referring to with the investment part. I wont boo the team, never have and never will, might say things under my breath, but I could never voice it out even if I wanted to, but everyone can do as they please, they have that right especially when they shed out the $$$.

What annoys me is non-season ticket holders and people who do not go to games trying to tell me that I shouldn't show up to a game and support my team. We have two losses, give up on the team, don't show up? Wear bags on my head?

NEVER going to do it.

[tshile]

I own season tickets as well, which I assume is what you are referring to with the investment part. I wont boo the team, never have and never will, might say things under my breath, but I could never voice it out even if I wanted to, but everyone can do as they please, they have that right especially when they shed out the $$$.

What annoys me is non-season ticket holders and people who do not go to games trying to tell me that I shouldn't show up to a game and support my team. We have two losses, give up on the team, don't show up? Wear bags on my head?

NEVER going to do it.

yes, i have season tickets to 3 seats.
i also buy a jersey for me and my fiance every year (she gest the 60$ kids one, cause its all that fits, and I get the 300 authentics)
i also buy the merch. - fold up chairs, flags, hats, hell i got a stupid 'dog jersey' for my dog.

if you read my post - the second post of the thread - i said I thought it was ridiculous to wear bags.

and I agree with you about the non season ticket holders telling us what to do with our season tickets is ridiculous, especially when they forget to factor in the fact that you've already paid for the ticket.

as for muttering under your breath vs booing. thats your choice, and mine individually. that said, i boo a piss poor effort, a lack of heart by the whole team, and stupid stupid mistakes - not just a loss.

[InsaneBoost]

Sounds like you are like me, if we lose but tried our hardest no hard feelings, but when we lose because we didn't try you are pissed.

Yeah we have 4 seats, I don't buy a new jersey every year, but I always get stuff. Most of the $$$ goes towards tailgating supplies.

[GaryGreenMonk]

if we don't beat Tampa... at home... against a 1st professional start QB...

so the worst team in the league... in our house... they are starting a total noob at QB...

if we don't win that...

yes it's time.... then any and all yelling, booing, bags on heads, all of it is deserved and encouraged.

[Brandon Lloyd Christmas]

FWIW, I'm also a legit Nationals fan (as is InsaneBoost), so I don't freak the **** when something goes wrong.

Patience, young padawans.


thats a completely different situation. the nationals are all youngsters and have 0 expectations. the skins were supposed to contend for a playoff spot and this was supposed to be an improved offense.

the nats have 10x the upside that the skins have in their respective sports.

[Gibbs Hog Heaven]

if we don't beat Tampa... at home... against a 1st professional start QB...

so the worst team in the league... in our house...

Not to be pernickety, but doesn't ending the worst team in the leagues 19 game losing streak automatically give us that mantel by association?

Hail.

[Jofizz]

Not to be pernickety, but doesn't ending the worst team in the leagues 19 game losing streak automatically give us that mantel by association?

Hail.

The Lions are not the worst team in the league, and are a different team than the one that went 0-16.

[Braxford]

It is not time yet. I can understand why some would want to and I know its not because of 1-2, its because of the whole of Snyder's relationship.

[hueman]

there's a facebook group to wear the bags too

[Ax]

I only hope, that anybody who wears a bag over their heads, has someone sitting behind them who will set it on fire.

Fewer dimwits = Better fanbase

[Chris0894]

We barely beat the Rams in week 2 and lost to the lions in week 3 (which are a much better team then last year.)

That said its still only week 3 and seems most fans are throwing the team under the bus. Well heres what I have to say about that...

**** you and **** you all negative nancies out there, seriously its only week 3 we still have 13 games to go! eventually this team will click and when it does I hope those paper bags suck on to your face like in the movie "The Mask" only i hope you can't take it off

[Operations]

We barely beat the Rams in week 2 and lost to the lions in week 3 (which are a much better team then last year.)

That said its still only week 3 and seems most fans are throwing the team under the bus. Well heres what I have to say about that...

**** you and **** you all negative nancies out there, seriously its only week 3 we still have 13 games to go! eventually this team will click and when it does I hope those paper bags suck on to your face like in the movie "The Mask" only i hope you can't take it off

And I hope you get banned for that vicious attack on your fellow posters.

[Chris0894]

And I hope you get banned for that vicious attack on your fellow posters.
what you expect...im sick of reading all the negativity...WE ARE FANS WE SHOULD BE SUPPORTING AND CHEERING

[Chris0894]

And I hope you get banned for that vicious attack on your fellow posters.lol your one of those negative nancies no wonder you hope i get banned :hysterical:
http://www.extremeskins.com/search.php?searchid=834616

[SkinsFTW]

Anything to help this franchise see we are serious about the disapointment is helpful. Paperbags - sure go for it.

Just stop buying their ****. I haven't bought any Redskins stuff in almost a decade.

[polywog999]

lol your one of those negative nancies no wonder you hope i get banned :hysterical:
http://www.extremeskins.com/search.php?searchid=834616
Swearing at folks isn't the answer. If you do, you're just being negative to.
The paper bags are silly. Bad for the team. One of the worst things is to boo the home team. It's demoralizing.