Las Vegas Sun : Steven Tyler Quits Aerosmith?

[Gracelander]

http://www.lasvegassun.com/news/2009/nov/06/joe-perry-steven-tyler-has-quit-aerosmith/


According to Joe Perry...


http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c202/Gracelander/tyler.jpg




Aerosmith guitarist Joe Perry said today that singer Steven Tyler quit the band following a recent concert in Abu Dhabi.

Bassist Tom Hamilton told the Boston Herald’s Inside Track that there is dissension among the “Bad Boys From Boston,” but that he hopes things can be worked out. He dismissed a report that guitarist Brad Whitford discussed the possiblity of Aerosmith finding a new frontman.

However, Perry told the Las Vegas Sun today that he believes Tyler is history.

“Steven quit as far as I can tell,” Perry said from his Boston home. “I don’t know anymore than you do about it. I got off the plane two nights ago. I saw online that Steven said that he was going to leave the band. I don’t know for how long, indefinitely or whatever. Other than that, I don’t know.”

Part of the problem, he says, is that Tyler doesn’t return his phone calls.

“He’s notorious for that,” Perry said. “That’s one thing I’ve learned to live with. I try to overlook it. I like to pick my battles. Frankly, the last few months I’ve been wanting not to rock the boat. I don’t want him canceling any more gigs. We really wanted to do these last four. We just kind of didn’t want to call him out or anything and get him anymore pissed off, for whatever reason. So we just let things lie. So we did the gigs and, like I said, I got off the plane and saw this online. That’s how I know about it.”

Perry will perform his Joe Perry Project Nov. 28 at the Las Vegas House of Blues, performing from his latest release “Have Guitar, Will Travel.”

Most of Aerosmith’s recent world tour was canceled in August after Tyler fell from the stage at a Sturgis, S.D., concert and broke his shoulder. The band members were unhappy with Tyler over the incident. However, Aerosmith salvaged the final leg of the tour, including two shows in Hawaii and one Sunday at the Abu Dhabi Grand Prix before more than 50,000 fans.

After the Middle Eastern concert the band parted ways with Perry going to London to attend the Classic Rock & Roll of Honour awards ceremony on Monday. Perry said he arrived home in Boston on Wednesday and read on the Internet that Tyler planned to leave the band.

“He has had no contact with me or the other band members,” Perry said.

He says he hopes to keep Aerosmith together, with or without Tyler, but he was so stunned by recent developments he doesn’t know what’s going to happen.

“Right now I’m adjusting to how we’re going to go on,” Perry says. “Aerosmith is such a powerful band, I mean it’s like a steam locomotive. You just can’t disregard 40 years of four guys who play together as well as they do. We’re just trying to – at least I am – trying to figure out what direction the band should take.

“As far as replacing Steve, it’s not just about that, it’s also four guys that play extremely well together, and I’m not going to see that go to waste. I really don’t know what path it’s going to take at this point, but we’ll probably find somebody else that will sing in those spots where we need a singer and then we’ll be able to move the Aerosmith up a notch, move the vibe up a notch.”

Perry believes Tyler has been planning on leaving for a while.

“Obviously he hasn’t been giving 100 percent to this thing for a long time,” Perry said. “He’s obviously had this planned for a long time. To disregard his brothers to the point where we have to find out about it on the Internet – it’s like, 'See you later, Bud.’ I still care for him as a person, or at least the person I used to know. But things change.”

Aerosmith rose to popularity in the ’70s with a combination of hard rock and power ballads only to be derailed by drug and alcohol abuse. After Tyler completed rehab in 1986, the band rose to prominence again. There were rumors last year that Tyler had checked back into rehab after more than 20 years of sobriety.

Perry himself left the band for two years in 1979. While he was away he created the solo Joe Perry Project, which has now released five albums.

“The circumstances were different then,” Perry said. “We’d been touring pretty much nonstop for eight years and the band was just pretty much burned out on each other. We needed a break. We needed to take a vacation but blood was running so hot I just had to leave, had to get out of there. But I certainly wasn’t going to stop playing so I put out a solo project.”

[cjcdaman]

They suck balls anyways. As a matter of fact, I think most of the band members suck other things as well.

[Bang]

If it was 1978 I'd care.

These guys are proof that drugs ARE good for some people. Or at least their music.

~Bang

[DeanCollins]

If it was 1978 I'd care.

These guys are proof that drugs ARE good for some people. Or at least their music.

~Bang

really? I thought the majority (if not all) of the band members clean and sober for a couple decades now. Got an evidence to the contrary (besides the article saying Tyler may have fallen out after 20 years?

"The members of Aerosmith began mending their fences when Perry and Whitford showed up backstage after a February 1984 Aerosmith concert in Boston. They put the band back together, embarked on the lengthy “Back in the Saddle” tour, and signed with Geffen Records. Most important of all, exhibiting the dogged tenacity that’s typified their approach to music, the group members got clean and sober in 1987 and thereafter reclaimed their rock and roll throne with some of the most passionate and hard-hitting music of their career. "

[Spaceman Spiff]

really? I thought the majority (if not all) of the band members clean and sober for a couple decades now. Got an evidence to the contrary (besides the article saying Tyler may have fallen out after 20 years?

I heard that last year, too. Can't remember where it was but I think it was on here somewhere. I also think that fall in SD had something to do with him not being able to stay sober, too.

[ACW]

They suck balls anyways. As a matter of fact, I think most of the band members suck other things as well.:doh:

[Bang]

really? I thought the majority (if not all) of the band members clean and sober for a couple decades now. Got an evidence to the contrary (besides the article saying Tyler may have fallen out after 20 years?

"The members of Aerosmith began mending their fences when Perry and Whitford showed up backstage after a February 1984 Aerosmith concert in Boston. They put the band back together, embarked on the lengthy “Back in the Saddle” tour, and signed with Geffen Records. Most important of all, exhibiting the dogged tenacity that’s typified their approach to music, the group members got clean and sober in 1987 and thereafter reclaimed their rock and roll throne with some of the most passionate and hard-hitting music of their career. "

Yes they are clean and sober, and have been for quite some time.
Coincidentally, their music has sucked for quite some time.

Speedball fueled Aerosmith produced "Rocks", "Toys in the Attic", "Get Your Wings"
(IMO "Rocks" is the one of the best hard rock albums ever produced. A true heavyweight.)

Sober Aerosmith gave us "Pump", "Honkin' on Bobo", "Rockimus Maximus"

~Bang

[DeanCollins]

I heard that last year, too. Can't remember where it was but I think it was on here somewhere. I also think that fall in SD had something to do with him not being able to stay sober, too.

The fall was this year, but Tyler checked himself into a rehab in '08 so who knows. But judging by his behavior he probably is of the wagon. It's too bad. The band reportedly went through rehab together, and revisited that rehab, to encourage the current residents, several times over the years. I thought that that was pretty cool.

[DeanCollins]

Yes they are clean and sober, and have been for quite some time.
Coincidentally, their music has sucked for quite some time.

Speedball fueled Aerosmith produced "Rocks", "Toys in the Attic", "Get Your Wings"

Sober Aerosmith gave us "Pump", "Honkin' on Bobo", "Rockimus Maximus"

~Bang

Musical taste is subjective but record sales and concert attendances are not. There is also a matter of the earlier (or later depending) recordings having a special significance due to the time in a persons life, when they heard them. Personally, I thought "Rocks" sucked and I liked "Pump", and there are many that never liked the band. But I'm kinda getting, from your comments, that you'd rather the band still be on drugs, for the benefit of your musical satisfaction.

[Portis for 6]

I sure wouldn't go to an Aerosmith show, with out the great Steven Tyler as lead singer!
I'm sure some people here can back me by saying that they put on a great show. I'm sure they will work this out, especially with all they have been threw.

[Metskins]

I gotta wonder if Tyler has fallen off the wagon......AGAIN.

[Bang]

Musical taste is subjective but record sales and concert attendances are not. There is also a matter of the earlier (or later depending) recordings having a special significance due to the time in a persons life, when they heard them. Personally, I thought "Rocks" sucked and I liked "Pump", and there are many that never liked the band. But I'm kinda getting, from your comments, that you'd rather the band still be on drugs, for the benefit of your musical satisfaction.
Trying to make me feel like a heel because I find their music when they were junkies to be much better is not really a fair position. One would think you believe I'd buy them the heroin myself and wreck their lives over it. We mustn't take things so literally in these kinds of discussions, eh?

Record sales are no more a barometer than individual tastes.
if it were, Abba is the greatest band ever.
Same for concerts. Hanna Montana and the Jonas Brothers certainly are not amazing musicians, and they can sell tickets like hotcakes.

I prefer the drugged out raunchy Aerosmith to the MTV media whore Aerosmith by about ten million miles.

~Bang

[fire5man80]

I didnt even know there was an Aerosmith for him to quit anymore. Whoda thunk it?

[Spaceman Spiff]

I didnt even know there was an Aerosmith for him to quit anymore. Whoda thunk it?

Agreed.

I'd go to a concert of theirs to see them play their greatest hits but wouldn't want to see anything post 1995 or so.

[d0ublestr0ker0ll]

Saw Aerosmith at (MCI) Center in the mid-late 90's. Still the best show I've ever seen. Underrated musicians, great energy, had some great songs...however they're one of the few bands I really enjoy that possess a number of songs that I simply don't enjoy at all. I like to describe them as a history of Rock within a band. Steven Tyler possesses a lot of traits from the great frontmen throughout Rock 'n Roll. Mick Jagger, Roger Daltrey and Robert Plant come to mind. Joey Kramer is a heavy drummer that knows how to play for a song instead of constantly showing off. The guy is better than most people think. Dennis Chambers has called him the greatest Rock drummer in the world. And I've always thought Joe Perry was the key to that band's sound. Awesome guitar riffs with good soloing skills.

[McD5]

Nooooooooo!

I saw this band in concert just two year ago, and I wasn't expecting anything.

I had seen them years earlier, and honestly wasn't that impressed.

Holy ****, did that band rock!

Wayyyy over expectations. I was shocked at how great they were. I would be furious if that was the last time I ever saw them live.

[Bang]

Funny enough,, the one time i got to see Aerosmith was after Joe Perry had quit. They had some other guy up there.

So, maybe this quit will be as long lived as that one, for all you Aerosmith fans.
It's been my experience that when a band is intact with all members still alive, they don't stay broken up very long once they get to this status. Hell, back in the late 80s Mick Jagger and Keith Richards wanted nothing to do with one another. Now they're on their 9th or 10th farewell tour..
Tyler is either ready to retire or he isnt. And if he isnt, his best place to make music and stay in the spotlight is with Aerosmith. He'll figure that out.

~Bang

[Kosher Ham]

Love em or hate em, they put on a hell of a show.

I dont imagine that it would be the same without Tyler.

Bang, as someone else pointed out it's just preference. For example, I think the Beatles song "Hey Jude" sucks. But most people love it, some out of nostalgia, some because they really enjoy it.

[Bang]

Love em or hate em, they put on a hell of a show.

I dont imagine that it would be the same without Tyler.

Bang, as someone else pointed out it's just preference. For example, I think the Beatles song "Hey Jude" sucks. But most people love it, some out of nostalgia, some because they really enjoy it.

Of course it's just preference. :) I'm not telling anyone they're wrong for enjoying Aerosmith since the early days, it's just not been my cup of tea since they cleaned up.
I still love Aerosmith for those first four or five records. To me, those albums are so good that they maintain Aerosmith among my favorites, and keep them in my rotation for over 30 years now.
In fact, THIS
http://www.guitarlifestyle.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/aerosmith.jpg
is the first album I ever bought with my own money. All my friends were going nuts over Nazareth (Hair of the Dog came out around the same time), but I loved this Aerosmith album, and still do. "One Way Street"- sitting in my MP3 player.

Also, I'd go one further and say that "Rocks" can hold it's own against ANY hard rock album before or since. "Rats in the Cellar" (Also in my MP3 player) is the song that typifies Aerosmith for me. Hard, fast, raunchy, and with a definite jagged edge to it.
I don't think they ever captured it as well as they did on that song.

~Bang

[#98QBKiller]

Saw Aerosmith at (MCI) Center in the mid-late 90's. Still the best show I've ever seen. Underrated musicians, great energy, had some great songs...however they're one of the few bands I really enjoy that possess a number of songs that I simply don't enjoy at all. I like to describe them as a history of Rock within a band. Steven Tyler possesses a lot of traits from the great frontmen throughout Rock 'n Roll. Mick Jagger, Roger Daltrey and Robert Plant come to mind. Joey Kramer is a heavy drummer that knows how to play for a song instead of constantly showing off. The guy is better than most people think. Dennis Chambers has called him the greatest Rock drummer in the world. And I've always thought Joe Perry was the key to that band's sound. Awesome guitar riffs with good soloing skills.


I saw them back on the 9 Lives tour in the late 90s (jesus we're starting to sound like our parents did) and I have to agree they were ****ing great live. I've seen a lot of shows too and that one was definitely in my top 5. They still have that heart and soul when they play that a lot of music is missing these days.

[Devastate]

Well like him or hate him, you can't replace Steven Tyler in Aerosmith.. If he's gone for good than Aerosmith is gone for good imo =(

[Chachie]

Well like him or hate him, you can't replace Steven Tyler in Aerosmith.. If he's gone for good than Aerosmith is gone for good imo =(




Perfect post.

We saw how the band suffered w/o Perry in the late 70s but I can't imagine even caring what Aerosmith is up to w/o Steven Tyler. Liv Tyler? Tyler Hansborough? Tyler Durden? Liv Ullman?

[Koolblue13]

At least one of them had the sense to do it. This was a mercy killing.

[deejaydana]

If it was 1978 I'd care.

These guys are proof that drugs ARE good for some people. Or at least their music.

~Bang

I couldn't agree with you more here. This band jumped the shark a long time ago. All their best stuff is pre-1980 back when they still made actual rock records. I do have to thank Steven Tyler for blessing us all with his daughter Liv...

[rincewind]

Oh no... has anyone broke the news to Alicia Silverstone? Won't someone think of poor Alicia's career?

[DeanCollins]

Of course it's just preference. :) I'm not telling anyone they're wrong for enjoying Aerosmith since the early days, it's just not been my cup of tea since they cleaned up.
I still love Aerosmith for those first four or five records. To me, those albums are so good that they maintain Aerosmith among my favorites,

What's comical is how you hold their early work out like it's some kind of great music. I mean it was cool at the time but it still was and is, just cheap rock-n-roll like the stones or the kinks, really nothing to right home about. Their later music really wasn't any better or worse just playing to a newer set of "rules" to sell albums, which is what they were doing in '70's. But why have a "what have you done for me lately" attitude about a band who's music you enjoy so much? It's highly critical, and you being a "musician" and an artist yourself, I'd think you'd be a bit more sensitive about it judging someone elses work.

[Bang]

What's comical is how you hold their early work out like it's some kind of great music. I mean it was cool at the time but it still was and is, just cheap rock-n-roll like the stones or the kinks, really nothing to right home about. Their later music really wasn't any better or worse just playing to a newer set of "rules" to sell albums, which is what they were doing in '70's. But why have a "what have you done for me lately" attitude about a band who's music you enjoy so much? It's highly critical, and you being a "musician" and an artist yourself, I'd think you'd be a bit more sensitive about it judging someone elses work.

Oh come on now Dean, lets be realistic, I'm not hurting anyone's feelings with my tastes and opinions in music. If I've learned anything by putting my own art out there is that not everyone will like it, and some people will flat out hate it. That is just something you have to get used to.
All taste, as you said, is subjective. And as such, you really shouldn't worry about criticizing art. No matter who the artist is, you're bound to have your favorite pieces, and your also bound to not like some of it. Some of it you may even hate.
To me, Aerosmith got tired a long time ago.

I look at American hard rock in the 70s, and Aerosmith stands way out above much of it, and it's on the strength of those first 4 or 5 records.

The Stones are another fine example. I love the Stones, but the newest album of theirs I own is 20 years old or so. (Steel Wheels) They just don't have the same edge in the songwriting and the passion in which it's played.

It happens to most long lived bands. There comes a time when the well starts to run dry, and in my ear, Aerosmith's ran dry long ago. Thankfully, they still have those first 4 or 5 records that i can listen to, because as I said, I think they are that good.

http://www.falstaffbrewing.com/aerosmith_rocks.jpg

In fact, just for a fun turn in the thread, I would say anyone is welcome to post up any American hard rock album from the 70s that you think is better than "Rocks" (My favorite American rock album from the 70s.), and we can all debate.

~Bang

[THEREALTOR1]

http://img2.timeinc.net/people/i/2007/database/livtyler/livtyler11_135.jpg

:)

[deejaydana]

In fact, just for a fun turn in the thread, I would say anyone is welcome to post up any American hard rock album from the 70s that you think is better than "Rocks" (My favorite American rock album from the 70s.), and we can all debate.

~Bang

I'd say the first Van Halen is better (at least to my ears anyhoo). Rocks does rank up there though as 70's American hard rock contributions.

And if you don't think the 1990's and 2K model of Aerosmith blows just listen, in succession, to 'Train Kept a Rolling' and then 'Don't Want To Miss A Thing.' It's like listening to two different bands.

[mjah]

Oh no... has anyone broke the news to Alicia Silverstone? Won't someone think of poor Alicia's career?
I don't think anyone has thought of Alicia's career for many years now.

[hawgboy]

Kings & Queens...sickest Aero song EVER!!!!!

[Botched]

I prefer the drugged out raunchy Aerosmith to the MTV media whore Aerosmith by about ten million miles.

~Bang

I agree completely.

[Kilmer17]

I had a friend in Atlanta who was a lighting tech, he toured with Aerosmith in the early 90s and had to sign a contract that forbid him (and anyone working the tour) to drink or use drugs during the tour. They were THAT adament about staying clean and keeping temptation far away.

[Koolblue13]

I had a friend in Atlanta who was a lighting tech, he toured with Aerosmith in the early 90s and had to sign a contract that forbid him (and anyone working the tour) to drink or use drugs during the tour. They were THAT adament about staying clean and keeping temptation far away.

My friend runs the Brittnay Spears tour and this time around, they get tested for drugs and alcohol every 2 weeks. Even if you get caught with beer on your breath, you're fired.

[Lombardi's_kid_brother]

Trying to make me feel like a heel because I find their music when they were junkies to be much better is not really a fair position. One would think you believe I'd buy them the heroin myself and wreck their lives over it. We mustn't take things so literally in these kinds of discussions, eh?

Record sales are no more a barometer than individual tastes.
if it were, Abba is the greatest band ever.
Same for concerts. Hanna Montana and the Jonas Brothers certainly are not amazing musicians, and they can sell tickets like hotcakes.

I prefer the drugged out raunchy Aerosmith to the MTV media whore Aerosmith by about ten million miles.

~Bang

I have a strong belief that if you are the lead singer or lead guitarist in a hard rock band, you owe it to your fans to die by the age of 39.

Keith Richards does not qualify for this theory, however, for two reasons:

1. Death does not seem possible for him, and
2. At heart, Keith plays the blues. Therefore, he has an obligation to his fans to play until he is 106. The other option was dying at 19 by drunkenly falling asleep on train tracks.

[Lombardi's_kid_brother]

I'd say the first Van Halen is better (at least to my ears anyhoo). Rocks does rank up there though as 70's American hard rock contributions.

And if you don't think the 1990's and 2K model of Aerosmith blows just listen, in succession, to 'Train Kept a Rolling' and then 'Don't Want To Miss A Thing.' It's like listening to two different bands.

I love early Van Halen, but I've never quite known how to deal with them. Probably because I do not have a cocaine personality.

I put rock bands in two categories: Cocaine and Heroin. I have a heroin personality.

Van Halen is arguably the greatest cocaine band of all time. Aerosmith is definitely a heroin band though.

How do I make the distinction? Easily. Cocaine is a drug that really only works if you are in a group of people. If you take cocaine by yourself, you are probably a member of the 1978 Knicks and nobody wants that. Van Halen is music you want to play in a car surrounded by other people.

Aerosmith can definitely work that way. But it works a lot better if you are alone in your room listening to an 8-track. And that is the way heroin works. If you are doing heroin with a group of people, you are probably sharing a needle and about to die of a massive blood-based infection. And that's no good.

[Kilmer17]

I love early Van Halen, but I've never quite known how to deal with them. Probably because I do not have a cocaine personality.

I put rock bands in two categories: Cocaine and Heroin. I have a heroin personality.

Van Halen is arguably the greatest cocaine band of all time. Aerosmith is definitely a heroin band though.

How do I make the distinction? Easily. Cocaine is a drug that really only works if you are in a group of people. If you take cocaine by yourself, you are probably a member of the 1978 Knicks and nobody wants that. Van Halen is music you want to play in a car surrounded by other people.

Aerosmith can definitely work that way. But it works a lot better if you are alone in your room listening to an 8-track. And that is the way heroin works. If you are doing heroin with a group of people, you are probably sharing a needle and about to die of a massive blood-based infection. And that's no good.

Ummm. Wow.

I cant believe this, but that's a fantastic analogy.

[hawgboy]

[QUOTE=Lombardi's_kid_brother;6996062]I put rock bands in two categories: Cocaine and Heroin.
QUOTE]

pure gold...

[Spaceman Spiff]

I love early Van Halen, but I've never quite known how to deal with them. Probably because I do not have a cocaine personality.

I put rock bands in two categories: Cocaine and Heroin. I have a heroin personality.

Van Halen is arguably the greatest cocaine band of all time. Aerosmith is definitely a heroin band though.

How do I make the distinction? Easily. Cocaine is a drug that really only works if you are in a group of people. If you take cocaine by yourself, you are probably a member of the 1978 Knicks and nobody wants that. Van Halen is music you want to play in a car surrounded by other people.

Aerosmith can definitely work that way. But it works a lot better if you are alone in your room listening to an 8-track. And that is the way heroin works. If you are doing heroin with a group of people, you are probably sharing a needle and about to die of a massive blood-based infection. And that's no good.

Amazing post.

[Lombardi's_kid_brother]

Ummm. Wow.

I cant believe this, but that's a fantastic analogy.

You didn't want to like it, but you did?

Punk rock, by the way, is meth music. Unless you are Johnny Cash, it's almost impossible to do amphetamines beyond the age of 30 and live for more than two weeks. This is why punk bands either all break up after three records or decide that they need to become U2.

The blues is alcohol music. It can be enjoyed at any age by any person. And talking to a 82-year-old alcoholic is very similar to talking to an 82-year-old bluesman. Too much wisdom, sadness, truth and humor for any person to live with.

[Lombardi's_kid_brother]

Amazing post.

And it makes perfect sense. A 50-year-old person still doing cocaine would look and behave EXACTLY like David Lee Roth.

[Capt Rich Fla]

I think he sucks anyway. He thinks that gigantic trap of his is sexy. I think he looks like an anemic hyena.