A survey about extremeskins.com. Alright which MOD done it???

[zskins]

I was reading this (http://voices.washingtonpost.com/dcsportsbog/2009/11/skins_open_themselves_up_for_f.html) blog on WP and started reading some of the comments (which I hardly do but had some time to kill) but anyway this had me scratching my head:

"I wish there was a survey about extremeskins.com. I have never come across a bigger bunch of girls fighting each other about how bad the qb is. The moderators are terrible and nothing more than a bunch of hypocrites. They will ban users for so called personal attacks,yet strangely only if you personally attack certain members.


One member in particular Bubba the so called king of all media (funny that media consists of more than just football) seems to have free reign on the site where he can call people unintelligent,and tell other members they have thier panties in a know...which is a clear violation of rule number 5...yet nothing has or will ever be done...but the second you say anything back to him...your finished on that site.

I am a season ticket holder...well sorta my parents are but never go to the games,and I cannot wait to confront Mark the homer (an es mod) at the next home game about this issue....Im sure hes going to walk away like the pansy he is in front of his extremeskins tailgate and family.


im sick of this team losing...and how its run...even the garbage they call a message board.



Posted by: robbyrock | November 4, 2009 12:21 PM"



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Alright so which mod pissed him off. :silly:

[fire5man80]

deleted: cause Im an idiot and I didnt read the whole post. Please forgive me

[bu7ch]

You think you're pretty smart Trebek?

[B.Rob]

I don't care what a mod supposedly did, this guy is a **** (rule 5 violation!!!!). Who seriously "can't wait" to confront someone and pick a fight with them in front of their family?

[Toe Jam]

Despicable.

When did the internet become such serious business?

[GhostofSparta]

My answer to the question depends on whether or not he was told "Hi there. :)" before being banned...

[Jumbo]

Sounds like a cross between


http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s107/jumboskins/authentic_drama_queen.jpg


....and....

http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s107/jumboskins/FontanaPA_468x891.jpg


....and....

http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s107/jumboskins/troll.jpg


...and...


http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s107/jumboskins/talkoutofass.jpg

...and...


http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s107/jumboskins/panic_attack.jpg


...and...

http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s107/jumboskins/funny.jpg




:D :hysterical:

[zskins]

I thought it was pretty funny (not ha ha) since his comments were to mere hijack the story at hand. Glad he is not part of ES. We need less of him and more of quality ES members. :)

[BigMike21]

I don't want to quote it because of the size but damn Jumbo, you just made a little come out when I was laughing.

['Skins_&_'Stons]

I don't want to quote it because of the size but damn Jumbo, you just made a little come out when I was laughing.

x2

Well done, Jumbo! :hysterical:

[zskins]

I wonder if Jumbo now feels better. :laugh:

[Jumbo]

I sort of remember the exchange that got this guy canned, but don't remember his name right now and we've got a movie on in the living room so it may be tomorrow before I look it up if I do at all...but I remember his rant and getting all wound up about bubba and MTH...:)...think it was in an ATN thread, but not sure...I may have been the one who banned him...if so, another good job by me

[TD Riggo]

I've been dying to ask this question for a long time, and here's my chance.

If I were to .. theoretically .. call half of the members here, especially Bubba, "jackasses" (and remember .. this is just a theoretical question) would I "theoretically" be banned? And would I get the courtesy of a "Hi there" beforehand?

Just askin'. Don't hate the playa.

[zskins]

I sort of remember the exchange that got this guy canned, but don't remember his name right now and we've got a movie on in the living room so it may be tomorrow before I look it up if I do at all...but I remember his rant and getting all wound up about bubba and MTH...:)...think it was in an ATN thread, but not sure...I may have been the one who banned him...if so, another good job by me

What movie are you watching?

I agree with you. People like that should be banned for life. :)

[Santana_Fan]

Should have told him to "Kiss the Baby"

[Jumbo]

I've been dying to ask this question for a long time, and here's my chance.

If I were to .. theoretically .. call half of the members here, especially Bubba, "jackasses" (and remember .. this is just a theoretical question) would I "theoretically" be banned? And would I get the courtesy of a "Hi there" beforehand?

Just askin'. Don't hate the playa.

Probably not in most contexts.


What movie are you watching?

I agree with you. People like that should be banned for life. :)

"Eagle Eye" (but I saw it in the theatre; the others here haven't)

And yes, I have been opening up a few seats courtesy of those who apply for membership in the "too stupid to post here" group (qualifications for which have nothing to do with any particular opinions on football or any aspect of the team). :)

God I'd like a win somehow tomorrow even if it's just a piece of "too little too late."

[TD Riggo]

Probably not in most contexts.

Thank god!

Now I'm off to find one of 10,000 Bubba threads and tell 'im what I think! :cool2:

[SpringfieldSkins]

Well...


This thread relates back to the thread regarding the thread that I made about the whole "Team relating to the media" thing. This gets a little bit closer though. It's more like blogs vs. ES.


There is so much that can be created both here and on the blogosphere as "fact" that can be construed between the two. We are both the same and they can take pot shots at us just as we can take pot shots at them.


Where does it really differ?

[Redskins Anonymous]

We are both the same and they can take pot shots at us just as we can take pot shots at them.


Where does it really differ?

I read on a men's room bathroom wall outside section 138 that if I wanted a good time, I should call Bubba.

Why do section 138 men hate ES?

[SkinsTerps26]

the team sucks, and we're a bunch of cry babies...

in more recent news, jerome bettis is from detroit. king of pop is dead, and arod did steroids.

can't blame the mods for having to deal with 30 daily threads on why the team/owner/gm suck.

this has been the season from hell.

[fire5man80]

I read on a men's room bathroom wall outside section 138 that if I wanted a good time, I should call Bubba.

Why do section 138 men hate ES?
The question now is, did you call that number???? Well...... did you?


Jumbo, of all the mods I believe you are the one who can most spark this kind of reaction from an ex ESkin poster. While the work you do on here is great, I do think you come across as an extreme "internet toughguy". Its cool though man, Ive got nothing but love for you guys and the work you do to keep this site clean. We've only had one little spat, which admittedly I was wrong, but you wouldnt answer me in a PM. Instead you seemed to prefer to keep it in the open forums but thats cool, I dont intend on giving you a reason to be like that again. Its funner to play by the rules anyways. Kiss kiss Jumbo.

I know MTH has gotta be shaking in his boots on this one. If this guy were to show up at the ESKINS tailgate and pick a fight, I'd hate to see what he looks like after the beatdown. Ive never gone to the ESkins tailgate, regretably, but I think the tailgate rules state acts of violence will not be tolerated. Im sure there are exceptions to the rules though. Make sure he knows that pimp hand is strong Mark if he does show up. And treat him like the ***** that he is, though its probably safe to say he wont show up.

[Bubble Screen]

I sort of remember the exchange that got this guy canned, but don't remember his name right now and we've got a movie on in the living room so it may be tomorrow before I look it up if I do at all...but I remember his rant and getting all wound up about bubba and MTH...:)...think it was in an ATN thread, but not sure...I may have been the one who banned him...if so, another good job by me

I'm not all too familiar with Bubba, as I don't post all that often in the Stadium. But why would anyone have that much of a problem with MTH, of all people?

And yeah, pretty ridiculous of anyone to actually want to confront the guy at the game, in front of his family. Pretty low.

[UltimateSkins]

The guy is right. There are a bunch of people with no life who post 30 times a day on this site and are seemingly untouchable. They could say the biggest load of bull imaginable, yet if you call them out on it you're the one who gets canned.

[Burgundy Burner]

Seems like we have one of these threads about every two weeks or so. Someone gets their bahookie in a twist and goes ape-snot crazy on some member(s) or mod(s). Most of the time, it is a harmless rant. This one is a bit different though.

I would recommend that this person be monitored - if at all possible.

[SkinsHokieFan]

For the life of me I simply do not understand how pathetic someone's life must be to COMPLAIN ABOUT A MESSAGE BOARD and how its run

Honestly, if you don't like it, go somewhere else. There are many other very good message boards dedicated to the Washington Redskins

And yes, this post is directed at YOU Robbyrock and any other internet drama queens who actually worry about how/what/who/whatever way a message board is run.

[SkinsHokieFan]

The guy is right. There are a bunch of people with no life who post 30 times a day on this site and are seemingly untouchable. They could say the biggest load of bull imaginable, yet if you call them out on it you're the one who gets canned.

Go to some other message board then and save yourself the time posting here. It isn't that hard

[Mackdaddydean]

I agree about the statement on Bubba. He really does get to do whatever he wants without punishment...i hate to say it, but its true. Not to mention the fact that he always thinks he's right which isn't a violation, but just annoying.

[zskins]

The guy is right. There are a bunch of people with no life who post 30 times a day on this site and are seemingly untouchable. They could say the biggest load of bull imaginable, yet if you call them out on it you're the one who gets canned.

Ahhhh some of us do have a life yet still post a lot here. Married with 3 kids and running your own IT company and still be able to hang out here and catch up on your Skins and post about it does take some talent. :D

[Jumbo]

While the work you do on here is great, I do think you come across as an extreme "internet toughguy".

All the people who matter agree I do great work. :silly: I think the whole staff does great work. :)

Extreme "internet toughguy", eh? :hysterical: Ok. :)

It's a pretty nonsensical term, IMO, when applied loosely. But I'll chat about it a bit. My posting manner doesn't take a rocket surgeon to get, but it may take some observational skill and analytical acuity. I hardly post in any single one-dimensional manner. I cover a lot of turf. :)

But I know psychology well, and I can figure how certain people may project that label onto me. The truth is I simply reserve the right to bring the same attitude to people as I see them bring to other members, or to me. I don't do that nearly as often as I could, but I do make that choice at times when I feel there's a good reason. And I don't always suffer fools gladly.

In the moderator role, I also no longer take much crap from the average argumentative/opinionated message board idjit who's casting about in the clueless mode. I did early on as a mod thinking that was taking a "higher road", but I realized the wisest and most productive thing to do is treat these interactions the same way I would tream them anywhere else. So I will often call an ******* out on being ******* if merited and needed, or bluntly hold someone accountable for what they've written if appropriate. Some folks may recognize it as one form of mirroring, done in specific manner and context, and is proven to be effective. :)

If that's how you define an internet toughguy, good enough. I can tell you I am exactly the same way outside of ES, as a couple people here know.

At the same time, anyone who shows any kind of reasonable behavior in their own interaction with me or their fellow members will only be met with equivalent kindness, humor, and good conversation if at all.:D

My favorite thing, as observant members here know, is humor. :D

Speaking of projection, you notice the blogger mentions MTH and bubba, and there was another mod I believe in the exchange, but I wasn't mentioned at all yet you credit me as the one who will "spark this kind of reaction." ;)

When it comes to pissing people off, I'm still a novice compared to Art & "Old" (sometimes "Still") TK :silly:

[bishtw]

Jumbo, of all the mods I believe you are the one who can most spark this kind of reaction from an ex ESkin poster. While the work you do on here is great, I do think you come across as an extreme "internet toughguy".

I found someone who can watch out for you if this so called "internet tough" comes looking to start problems again.

http://img195.imageshack.us/img195/82/internettoughguy1.jpg

[Jumbo]

I agree about the statement on Bubba. He really does get to do whatever he wants without punishment...i hate to say it, but its true. Not to mention the fact that he always thinks he's right which isn't a violation, but just annoying.


Does what he wants? Punishment? If one of you guys making this claim want to point me to where bubba has broken a rule that merits some action, i'd sure like to see it. But then comments like yours have always turned out to be just flatulence to date.

You won't find an example other than the very rare new thread he's posted that's a duplicate (since posting every Redskins-related news item he can find is one of his staff duties).

We cut even the "average member" some slack on a very regular basis, but I can't even think of a single time where bubba broke a rule other than what I just stated, and I read the board thoroughly way more than you do.

So what will it be? A retraction or provide some examples (and if you do, make sure you're correct). :)

There's a big difference between someone whose style and stances annoy some people and breaking the rules. The claim that bubba "gets way with breaking rules" is simply wrong and stupid. No better way to put it. Now your judgment as to the merit of his football opinions is your business, just as with any other member.

BTW, I disagree with bubba lots, as he knows, so his views having nothing to do with anything.

Also, amigo, you have 7 mod actions from four different mods in your user notes, so maybe your focus and judgment on matters of rules is a little askew from the get-go. :silly:

[suze109]

Man, why do some people have to be such crybabies? This is a message board for crying out loud.

Personally, I think not only do the mods do a great job monitoring this crazy place that's full of all kinds of ... ummmm ... personalities, but their posts are often the most entertaining reads for me.

So thanks for all you do ... and your checks are in the mail. :D

[Major Harris]

i still say jumbo should post all user notes in these situations. :munchout:

[bubba9497]

One member in particular Bubba the so called king of all media (funny that media consists of more than just football) seems to have free reign on the site where he can call people unintelligent,and tell other members they have thier panties in a know...which is a clear violation of rule number 5...yet nothing has or will ever be done...but the second you say anything back to him...your finished on that site.



:hysterical:

Somebody needs a hug, poor RobbyRock, must have his knickers in a "know" ;)

how sad is it that you take an internet message board so serious to get that upset? Of course it's much easier to play the "tough guy" by doing it behind people's back, on another board.

http://www.photochopz.com/gallery/data/568/medium/bullying.jpg

[bubba9497]

I read on a men's room bathroom wall outside section 138 that if I wanted a good time, I should call Bubba.


I can hook them up with RobbyRock's mother and sister on the cheap

internet pimping ain't easy :pimp:

[bubba9497]

The guy is right. There are a bunch of people with no life who post 30 times a day on this site and are seemingly untouchable. They could say the biggest load of bull imaginable, yet if you call them out on it you're the one who gets canned.

I wonder who this is directed at?

BTW TK has a life



I've been dying to ask this question for a long time, and here's my chance.

If I were to .. theoretically .. call half of the members here, especially Bubba, "jackasses" (and remember .. this is just a theoretical question) would I "theoretically" be banned? And would I get the courtesy of a "Hi there" beforehand?

Just askin'. Don't hate the playa.

Bring it on, but you better be right in your argument because if not... I give no quarter ;)

besides a direct personal insult usually means you can't defend your point, and attacking out of frustration of being wrong :)

[scruffylookin]

I think many of us feel that way about various message boards we may visit but ultimately how one reacts is the key. I can see where some posters feel that there are clicks here. It's a natural feeling one has when you first join and participate in a message board community. Back in my early posting days (I was a lurker for a few years before joining) I sometimes felt that too. But ultimately there are two things that people need to remember. First, you get what you give and second, as others have said, this is just a message board. It's a place where you come to voice your opinion on the Redskins and read other peoples opinion. If you don't like it here, there are plenty of other places where you can go to do the very same thing. No need to get all worked up about it.

[bubba9497]

I agree about the statement on Bubba. He really does get to do whatever he wants without punishment...i hate to say it, but its true.

see Jumbo's eloquent response on that matter

I won't dignify your comment with a response




Not to mention the fact that he always thinks he's right which isn't a violation, but just annoying.


:wtf: Why would anyone jump into a debate thinking they were wrong? :insane:

Am I always right? nope

Do I admit when I am wrong? rare, but if I am proven wrong I will be the first to say so. But just because you "think" I'm wrong is not the same as actually proving I am

When I take a position I do so with vigor. I also back it up with facts, stats, logic and common sense. I try to give detailed reasons why I believe "I am right".

Tell you what instead of whining about me "thinking" I am right.... the next time you disagree, post why... and you better have something tangible to back it up, not just "your opinion"


if you prove me wrong I will admit it... will you do the same?

[bubba9497]

I sort of remember the exchange that got this guy canned, but don't remember his name right now and we've got a movie on in the living room so it may be tomorrow before I look it up if I do at all...but I remember his rant and getting all wound up about bubba and MTH...:)...think it was in an ATN thread, but not sure...I may have been the one who banned him...if so, another good job by me

Is it the tr1 bash fest in ATN from earlier this week?

http://www.extremeskins.com/showthread.php?t=306727

if it's who I think his first response to me was calling tr1 and myself "butt buddies" along with other similar niceties :hysterical:

[Devastate]

I agree that there is a ton of unintelligent discussion in regards to our QB position but whatever.. In regards to the MODS, bottom line is, if you follow the rules you'd never hear from the Mods. This is me personally, but I don't pay much attention to the Mods. If you come on to this board with the mindset of "what are the Mods up to now". Well then you're someone with an axe to grind and are missing the point of this board.

I haven't been posting long but I've read them for years, long enough to know that Bubba has brought so much to this community that if you have a problem with Bubba, than there's something wrong with you, not him.

The only time I've ever seen a Mod get into with someone to the point of personal attack is when it's a user who on a daily basis causes trouble and needs to have his pants pulled down and spanked in public.

[Devastate]

Oh and I think Bubba should be banned.. lots of spam on page 3 here ;p

[SkinsJackpot]

The MODS on this site do suck.

[Buffalo_Soldier]

I was reading this (http://voices.washingtonpost.com/dcsportsbog/2009/11/skins_open_themselves_up_for_f.html) blog on WP and started reading some of the comments (which I hardly do but had some time to kill) but anyway this had me scratching my head:

"I wish there was a survey about extremeskins.com. I have never come across a bigger bunch of girls fighting each other about how bad the qb is. The moderators are terrible and nothing more than a bunch of hypocrites. They will ban users for so called personal attacks,yet strangely only if you personally attack certain members.


One member in particular Bubba the so called king of all media (funny that media consists of more than just football) seems to have free reign on the site where he can call people unintelligent,and tell other members they have thier panties in a know...which is a clear violation of rule number 5...yet nothing has or will ever be done...but the second you say anything back to him...your finished on that site.

I am a season ticket holder...well sorta my parents are but never go to the games,and I cannot wait to confront Mark the homer (an es mod) at the next home game about this issue....Im sure hes going to walk away like the pansy he is in front of his extremeskins tailgate and family.


im sick of this team losing...and how its run...even the garbage they call a message board.








Posted by: robbyrock | November 4, 2009 12:21 PM"



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Alright so which mod pissed him off. :silly:

$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

You are 100 % on the money my friend.


all I can say is "Bravo!" to you sir. Tell it like it is my friend, I have noticed the very same thing and have wondered is Bubba actually Snyder himself.

Having grown up in Washington myself, I learned early on that the passion of the fanbase in Washington was not only rabid, but political as well.

With that as a point of reference, I suppose that Extremeskins in it's enforcement of the rules only pertain to others not themselves, much like how our National leaders enforce our Constitution et al Bush administration and now sadly Obamas.

So, I guess you could say that Extremeskins and it's moderates are a direct reflection of the hypocritical behavior of our egomaniamaniacal leaders that have put our country in the same shape this franchise is, down the toilet.

I admire you young squire, you are strong in the light. Stay there at all cost's.
:saber:

[Tastes Like Chicken]

So where's the survey? :silly:

[Devastate]

To the last two guys (Before TLC).. Show us some examples.. I haven't seen it, but if you show the community some examples where the Mods who weren't instigated started breaking their own rules that would be a help. It would shed some light on your arguments.

coming into a thread and agreeing with something who's provided no facts and is clearly someone with a vendetta well it makes you just as unintelligent looking as them. If this is a true problem in the community get it out there, get some opinions and lets discuss it.

[tr1]

$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

You are 100 % on the money my friend.


all I can say is "Bravo!" to you sir. Tell it like it is my friend, I have noticed the very same thing and have wondered is Bubba actually Snyder himself.

Having grown up in Washington myself, I learned early on that the passion of the fanbase in Washington was not only rabid, but political as well.

With that as a point of reference, I suppose that Extremeskins in it's enforcement of the rules only pertain to others not themselves, much like how our National leaders enforce our Constitution et al Bush administration and now sadly Obamas.

So, I guess you could say that Extremeskins and it's moderates are a direct reflection of the hypocritical behavior of our egomaniamaniacal leaders that have put our country in the same shape this franchise is, down the toilet.

I admire you young squire, you are strong in the light. Stay there at all cost's.
:saber:

Nice way to break about six rules in one post...:rotflmao:

Can you figure out which ones?

[Combatant]

Sounds like somebody has a case of the Mondays.

[tr1]

Is it the tr1 bash fest in ATN from earlier this week?

http://www.extremeskins.com/showthread.php?t=306727

if it's who I think his first response to me was calling tr1 and myself "butt buddies" along with other similar niceties :hysterical:

I miss that fella.

Too bad he got banned.

[bubba9497]

Keep politics out of this forum

[Mark The Homer]

x2

Well done, Jumbo! :hysterical:If you're gonna carry an oversized sig, best to keep it out of the mod threads. :silly:

(I edited it for you)


...

I am a season ticket holder...well sorta my parents are but never go to the games,and I cannot wait to confront Mark the homer (an es mod) at the next home game about this issue....Im sure hes going to walk away like the pansy he is in front of his extremeskins tailgate and family.


...

Posted by: robbyrock | November 4, 2009 12:21 PM"

Oh, good. So instead of tailgating, I have to stop and deal with this ****. THIS WAS NOT IN MY CONTRACT. :mad:

:silly:



can't blame the mods for having to deal with 30 daily threads on why the team/owner/gm suck. We don't have a gm.



I know MTH has gotta be shaking in his boots on this one. ....Yeah, I probably won't be able to sleep for the next week :hysterical:


The guy is right. There are a bunch of people with no life who post 30 times a day ....I'm insulted. We post a minimum of 50 times a day.

Seven days off.

[Mark The Homer]

(I am joking)

[Buffalo_Soldier]

11. Please do not use the “Quote” feature to quote huge blocks of text or pictures.

If you would like to respond to the contents of a particular post, simply quote the sentence or idea that you're commenting upon, not necessarily the entire post. It wastes space on the database and unnecessarily extends and clutters threads.


Between Jumbo and Bubba trying to create this idea that for making this observation of the hypocritical ways a handful of mod's engage the membership here, the OP is a moron or looking for attention I would say they have in doing so made his point for him.

And he is "11" acting may I say with a good measure of maturity as opposed to yours.

A friend of mine told me when I became a member of the message board that he was banned for life after making a Post that criticized Gibbs play calling and the lack of talent that was apparent in Campbell. This happened 2 years ago and the same group that has been involved in this OP's observations attacked this friend so relentlessly that when he snapped under their personal attacks and returned one such remark in kind, he was banned for life.

Guess what that same group included TR1, Jumbo and Bubba.

The members user name was CosmicBuffalo.

He got very upset when he related his experience to me now, 2 years later. Then he broke out laughing. When I asked why he said," Those mental midgets banned me by goading me into the same behavior they were attacking me with." "Here's the funny part...... I was right on about everything I was saying at the time." "In fact I was one of the first people to make a post about the Redskins offseason move to get CFL defensive end Chris Wilson." "In it I wrote that I believed he would become a great asset to the team, and I was right about that too."

That's when he said,"The shame of it is that it's a great message board for Redskins fans like us that are almost 3,000 miles from D.C. and it was great for me since I became disabled, gave me something else to occupy my time."

He wished me luck, but warned me about this very thing and this very group of individuals.

I guess I am going to get banned now for sticking up for him and this OP, well if that happens so be it. The only thing these self appointed Tin Gods are doing is driving away knowledgeable fans that are loyal to the team and the players, not the ownership.

My friend that was banned is not only a great fan of over 36 years or so, he is a really smart football guy. Watching the games with him is an amazing experience for me and my family. In fact my boys have become Redskin fans over the last 4 years after being rabid niner fans because of him.

[tr1]

"Those mental midgets banned me by goading me into the same behavior they were attacking me with."

:rotflmao:

When you say controversial things on a message board, it's good to have a tough skin...oh, and some self-control.

;)

[Buffalo_Soldier]

Nice way to break about six rules in one post...:rotflmao:

Can you figure out which ones?

Boy my friend was right! You guys don't waste any time do you?

Please indulge me as to what 6 rules I have broken with my response?

I can't wait.

[Capt. Kaos]

The members user name was CosmicBuffalo.



hmmm......

CosmicBuffalo - Buffalo Soldier


just saying..........

[Major Harris]

and he quoted pics to boot! :party:

u-ser-notes, u-ser notes, u-ser notes!!!

[Buffalo_Soldier]

Does what he wants? Punishment? If one of you guys making this claim want to point me to where bubba has broken a rule that merits some action, i'd sure like to see it. But then comments like yours have always turned out to be just flatulence to date.

You won't find an example other than the very rare new thread he's posted that's a duplicate (since posting every Redskins-related news item he can find is one of his staff duties).

We cut even the "average member" some slack on a very regular basis, but I can't even think of a single time where bubba broke a rule other than what I just stated, and I read the board thoroughly way more than you do.

So what will it be? A retraction or provide some examples (and if you do, make sure you're correct). :)


BTW, I disagree with bubba lots, as he knows, so his views having nothing to do with anything.

Also, amigo, you have 7 mod actions from four different mods in your user notes, so maybe your focus and judgment on matters of rules is a little askew from the get-go. :silly:


Did you refer to someones opinion as flatulence? And imply that he couldn't be right because you,"Read these boards more than you do?"

Claiming that someone with over 50,000 posts has never done anything wrong is ridiculous isn't it? I'm asking here.

There's a big difference between someone whose style and stances annoy some people and breaking the rules. The claim that bubba "gets way with breaking rules" is simply wrong and stupid. No better way to put it. Now your judgment as to the merit of his football opinions is your business, just as with any other member.

[tr1]

Boy my friend was right! You guys don't waste any time do you?

Please indulge me as to what 6 rules I have broken with my response?

I can't wait.

I exaggerated. ;)

Dude, why come to a message board if you only want to hear what you like? ES is about having different points of view. Sure, it's frustrating when your take on things is different than most, and when you come to a place where you think you'll find sympathetic viewpoints, but it doesn't always turn out that way.

I think it's pretty funny that anyone would chance getting banned because of anything I post. It's a friggin' message board. I hate the mods getting involved in any thread I'm in. It's usually because there's a fella who is ABSOLUTELY **** SURE that he's RIGHT, and everyone else be damned...to the point of calling names or some other bad behavior.

ES is the most tolerant message board I've ever seen. Try to post some stuff against an owner on another team message board and see how far that gets. Hell, try to lead a fan revolt ON A TEAM'S OFFICIAL MESSAGE BOARD, and see how well that goes over in other NFL cities.

Stop your whining about this board.

You have no idea how silly you look.

[Mark The Homer]

I've only been here a short time relative to others like TK and Jumbo - well, everybody actually. But, already, I've learned to recognize the hidden meaning in certain posts. Example:


....

What the user is really saying:

"I used to be here under another name and I got perma-banned for no reason whatsoever. Now I'm back. Hahaha I win."

The irony is, you don't win. You lose. Again.

Edit: CK beat me to the punch, which he's been doing often lately :mad:

[Buffalo_Soldier]

Keep politics out of this forum

When the shoe fits.........

I was simply showing how the same impossible truths exist only a few miles from the stadium is all.

[Burgundy Burner]

I'd like to thank Bubba for the following...

He was there to help with my first fight as a kid. She was tough, but I survived.

Bubba was there when we were in a foxhole and under heavy enemy fire during the big war. His superior leadership saved my life.

Bubba was there to help with the delivery of my only child.

Bubba helped me with numerous challenges in college - his intelligent guidance helped me to graduate in less than ten years.

Bubba got me that first job - I was nervous, but taking orders through a window was much less of challenge due to his incredible suggestions.

Bubba helped me when purchasing my first home. The outdoor plumbing was a problem at first, but his plumbing skills saved the day.

Bubba introduced me to the Redskins and these last sixteen years have been a blast!

Finally, Bubba got me a neat deal with membership at ES. I pay only $49.95 a month for the privilege of being here.

Bubba is amazing.
Hail Bubba!

:D

[Buffalo_Soldier]

I can hook them up with RobbyRock's mother and sister on the cheap

internet pimping ain't easy :pimp:

If this isn't a personal attack on the 11 year old OP than I don't know what is Bubba.

[Skinsfan1311]

Oh, good. So instead of tailgating, I have to stop and deal with this ****. THIS WAS NOT IN MY CONTRACT. :mad:



If it comes to that, I got your back.

"got your back" means that I'll protect your liquor, beer and food.

I'll let Frannie deal with the internet tough guy.

[tr1]

If this isn't a personal attack on the 11 year old OP than I don't know what is Bubba.

Actually, it was pretty funny...and it wasn't directed at the OP. Try to re-read and understand.

You've already been identified as someone who has posted on here under another banned user ID...and, the mods are still letting you post.

Do you see any irony here?

[Capt. Kaos]

If this isn't a personal attack on the 11 year old OP than I don't know what is Bubba.

me thinks you are a tad confused.......


The OP and RobbyRock are 2 seperate individuals

Me also thinks that some reading comprehension would be a good idea before undertaking a uphill struggle such as the one you are attempting.

[TK]

http://1-2knockout.typepad.com/photos/uncategorized/2008/04/06/bart.png

Seems there's a lot of this going on here lately. :insane:

[Buffalo_Soldier]

hmmm......

CosmicBuffalo - Buffalo Soldier


just saying..........

Ever have a good friend that you admire so much you adopt something of theirs to represent them? You would have to have some level of conviction for that though, it's a hard concept for some to digest.

just saying..............

[Capt. Kaos]

Ever have a good friend that you admire so much you adopt something of theirs to represent them? You would have to have some level of conviction for that though, it's a hard concept for some to digest.

just saying..............

oh I get it!

who do I talk to about a name change, "Capt. TK" has a nice ring to it :silly:


thought I'd add the one thing that this thread is missing:

http://i285.photobucket.com/albums/ll48/CaptKaos47/flypaper.jpg

[zoony]

Reading posts from these guys who say they're pissed off and aren't going to take it anymore and are taking their balls and going home, etc.- tells me we are on the right track.

Maybe some more kiddies will go home. One can hope :fingersx:

[Mark The Homer]

If it comes to that, I got your back.

"got your back" means that I'll protect your liquor, beer and food.

I'll let Frannie deal with the internet tough guy.

Oh, you're siccin' Frannie on them? Well, why didn't you say so!?!?!

I got no worries now. :)

[Capt. Kaos]

off to church, morning crowd should be pulling in here anytime now. That can only mean that this thread should get more interesting as the day goes on. I'll check back just before kick-off.

mods, Good Luck! :silly:

[joeknows]

it always amazes me that with this many complaints on this board about the moderation and yet... not one shred of truth to them.....

[Buffalo_Soldier]

Hey Brandon Lloyd Christmas, nice to meet you first of all.......

I guess maybe I have a chip on my shoulder as it relates to my great friend and football buddy that got banned for life 2 years ago and after I joined a few weeks ago he warned me that this might happen.

And I have to say after seeing some of the snipes and insinuations through pictures of morons and donkeys with mouths in the ass end by one of the named MODs in his response to an 11 year old fan isn't whining, it's an example.

[ZoEd]

There's a lot of jackassedness that goes on around here; bubba and jumbo can spearhead some of it. Just look at their air of superiority in this thread, bunch arrogant egomaniacs.



































j/k :D

[BKSkinsFan]

I think people have trouble realizing that there are 1000s of posts and the mods might not catch every single violation. If you get all bent out of shape when someone disagrees with your POV, a message board is not for you.

[Mark The Homer]

it always amazes me that with this many complaints on this board about the moderation and yet... not one shred of truth to them.....That's because we delete all the evidence and ban all the complainers. :)

Who's next?

[tr1]

Hey Brandon Lloyd Christmas, nice to meet you first of all.......

I guess maybe I have a chip on my shoulder as it relates to my great friend and football buddy that got banned for life 2 years ago and after I joined a few weeks ago he warned me that this might happen.

And I have to say after seeing some of the snipes and insinuations through pictures of morons and donkeys with mouths in the ass end by one of the named MODs in his response to an 11 year old fan isn't whining, it's an example.

Dude, no one is taking issue with the 11 year old OP. The post quoted someone posting somewhere else...a guy who was banned here a few days ago...the guy who's getting all of the attention.

Try to see what's going on before you knee-jerk yourself into a concussion.

[Capt. Kaos]

Hey Brandon Lloyd Christmas, nice to meet you first of all.......

I guess maybe I have a chip on my shoulder as it relates to my great friend and football buddy that got banned for life 2 years ago and after I joined a few weeks ago he warned me that this might happen.

And I have to say after seeing some of the snipes and insinuations through pictures of morons and donkeys with mouths in the ass end by one of the named MODs in his response to an 11 year old fan isn't whining, it's an example.

In the name of all things holy..... The OP is NOT 11 years old!


see what you made me do?!? I had to break out the [U] on ya!

[Buffalo_Soldier]

it always amazes me that with this many complaints on this board about the moderation and yet... not one shred of truth to them.....

Go to page 1, the 6th post below the OP a Jumbo posted a series of pictures in an effort to paint the 11 year old poster as a moron, jackass, retard, etc..

If I am not mistaken goading someone individual or name calling as it were is a violation of the rules is it not? I am assuming of course that Jumbo is older than 11 or he wouldn't be a MOD.

just saying.........

[Capt. Kaos]

Go to page 1, the 6th post below the OP a Jumbo posted a series of pictures in an effort to paint the 11 year old poster as a moron, jackass, retard, etc..

If I am not mistaken goading someone individual or name calling as it were is a violation of the rules is it not? I am assuming of course that Jumbo is older than 11 or he wouldn't be a MOD.

just saying.........


and Jumbo was NOT referring to the OP with those pics!


ya happy?!? you made me do it again!

[BKSkinsFan]

Go to page 1, the 6th post below the OP a Jumbo posted a series of pictures in an effort to paint the 11 year old poster as a moron, jackass, retard, etc..

If I am not mistaken goading someone individual or name calling as it were is a violation of the rules is it not? I am assuming of course that Jumbo is older than 11 or he wouldn't be a MOD.

just saying.........

Reading comprehension failure needs to be a new violation, wow. The pics posted were in reference to the person whining, not the OP!!

[Buffalo_Soldier]

In the name of all things holy..... The OP is NOT 11 years old!


see what you made me do?!? I had to break out the [U] on ya!

So that's not a picture of him with his sister? My bad.

Still the premise of implying to goad a response on a personal level is a violation of the rules anyway.

Since I am new here what is the [U] on me??

Thanks for pointing that out

[Annonymous Source]

There are some very simple rules to this place that are unwritten.
1) Dont pick fights with people bigger than u
2) Dont oppenly bash on anyone who u recognize the name of from other threads
3) Dont **** off the mods

I think that just about covers it. Anyone that cannot deal with that has never been on any Internet message board before.

[joeknows]

Go to page 1, the 6th post below the OP a Jumbo posted a series of pictures in an effort to paint the 11 year old poster as a moron, jackass, retard, etc..

If I am not mistaken goading someone individual or name calling as it were is a violation of the rules is it not? I am assuming of course that Jumbo is older than 11 or he wouldn't be a MOD.

just saying.........

actually i know that jumbo wasnt posting to the op but the subject matter of the op which was another EX member....

and you not being in the know may not have realized it... but im sure mark and the mods recognized my sarcasm in that statement....

[Capt. Kaos]

So that's not a picture of him with his sister? My bad.

Since I am new here what is the [U] on me??

underline

and since you are new here might I suggest a "read more post less" attitude atleast until you have a little firmer grasp of the goings on around here.

[Soup]

I guess the guy missed rule 19:

:allhail:

All Hail Bubba and the Mods. They can do whatever they want because its their forum. Any violation of this rule is punishable by death or banning depending which Mod saw it first.

[tr1]

So that's not a picture of him with his sister? My bad.

Still the premise of implying to goad a response on a personal level is a violation of the rules anyway.

Since I am new here what is the [U] on me??

Thanks for pointing that out

:rotflmao:

They just won't ban you, will they?

:rotflmao:

Keep tryin'.

This is fun.

[TK]

While we all know this isn't going to end well for some, let's enjoy it for as long as we can.

:munchout:

[CandaceM23]

I am sorry. I am the one who posted in the WP blog. I thought that no one would figure it out ... and I was right. I winz! I hate ES. I hate mods, I hate members and I hate you.

Internetz = seriuz biznus.

[Capt. Kaos]

:rotflmao:

They just won't ban you, will they?

:rotflmao:

Keep tryin'.

This is fun.


:rotflmao:

[joeknows]

That's because we delete all the evidence and ban all the complainers. :)

Who's next?


i may not always agree with the moderation on this board .... i will say however that threatening someone for it is way out of bounds.....

i truly hope dude was just blowin off some steam.....

[Buffalo_Soldier]

Reading comprehension failure needs to be a new violation, wow. The pics posted were in reference to the person whining, not the OP!!

Ok, the only thing written is, "Sound like.." followed by a series of pictures that end with a kid trying to go in the a school for the gifted. The way I comprehend this is that the OP is a retard, only it is being said with pictures and not words. I think I comprehend that correctly, just saying......

[Capt. Kaos]

Ok, the only thing written is, "Sound like.." followed by a series of pictures that end with a kid trying to go in the a school for the gifted. The way I comprehend this is that the OP is a retard, only it is being said with pictures and not words. I think I comprehend that correctly, just saying......

You continue to "push' when you should be "pulling"


Please go read the OP, things may become a bit clearer for you.

[joeknows]

Ok, the only thing written is, "Sound like.." followed by a series of pictures that end with a kid trying to go in the a school for the gifted. The way I comprehend this is that the OP is a retard, only it is being said with pictures and not words. I think I comprehend that correctly, just saying......


seriously bud you are just a bit confused...... the op was not the complainer but someone posting about a complaint somewhere else about the goings on here....

the picture post was in reference to the complainer from elsewhere and not the op...

and for the record .... yeah i lol'd

[Buffalo_Soldier]

Actually, it was pretty funny...and it wasn't directed at the OP. Try to re-read and understand.

You've already been identified as someone who has posted on here under another banned user ID...and, the mods are still letting you post.

Do you see any irony here?

Excuse me! I have been identified as someone else?? OK, who am I then and why all the sudden am I under attack here.

[Mark The Homer]

underline

and since you are new here might I suggest a "read more post less" attitude atleast until you have a little firmer grasp of the goings on around here.Shoot I'd say he is doing well. I was here a year before anybody even acknowledged my existence. :silly:


I guess the guy missed rule 19:

:allhail:

All Hail Bubba and the Mods. They can do whatever they want because it's their forum. Any violation of this rule is punishable by pubic ridicule & humilation followed by banning, regardless of which Mod saw it first.

I like it (I changed some of the words, though).

[Buffalo_Soldier]

Can't argue with a sick mind... so I will stop trying to. Ciao Go Skins turn it around today.

[CandaceM23]

Excuse me! I have been identified as someone else?? OK, who am I then and why all the sudden am I under attack here.

It's rather ironic that you know the whole posing history of member X with buffalo in the name ... create a new user name with buffalo in the name ... spew out garbage about why member X was banned and why you are in total agreement with said banned member. If you've been on this board for a while, you've seen it all. Folks are just calling it like they see it.

[Mark The Homer]

I am sorry. I am the one who posted in the WP blog. ...uh oh. Now I am worried. One thing you learn very early on ES: DO NOT **** WITH CANDACE.

[dockeryfan]

Ok, the only thing written is, "Sound like.." followed by a series of pictures that end with a kid trying to go in the a school for the gifted. The way I comprehend this is that the OP is a retard, only it is being said with pictures and not words. I think I comprehend that correctly, just saying......

Good god the interwebs is just not for some people I guess.

[tr1]

Can't argue with a sick mind... so I will stop trying to. Ciao Go Skins turn it around today.

No...no...please...please don't go.

:rotflmao:

Two more hours before game time...

[Burgundy Burner]

While we all know this isn't going to end well for some, let's enjoy it for as long as we can.

:munchout:

Roflmbo! Start with Candace - she is the one who started this thing at the WaPo blog. :evilg:

Popcorn at this hour???

[Buffalo_Soldier]

OK, I get it now and it's my mistake for interpreting RobbyRock to have entered the dialogue in question. I have to admit I am not to up on all the links in so much of the content that serve as footnotes I guess.

I realize now that the OP is not the subject of the ridicule and put downs, but they remain intact as to the original question of why to 2 standards.

I am going to shut up now and watch the game. As embarrassed as I feel for missing that link in the first line, and being so new here that you will let me slide on my lack of comprehension and for my misguided remarks.

Seeing now that politics cannot be discussed here and that I have made that violation as well as the comment "mental midgets" I apologize.

I really do want to have great dialogue and exchange with everyone on this board for a long time hopefully.

Sometimes you step in **** and don't realize it's stinking up the place until you take it off and find it. Sorry for stinking up the place. Can I get a pass this time??

Enjoy the game let's hope it is what we've all been waiting for.

[CandaceM23]

Roflmbo! Start with Candace - she is the one who started this thing at the WaPo blog. :evilg:

Popcorn at this hour???

Watch it mister .... Walking the line between saying acceptable things and crap that will get you banned is a fine art which I've perfected. I'll tangle with you today if you don't be careful! ;)

[CandaceM23]

I really do want to have great dialogue and exchange with everyone on this board for a long time hopefully.

Sometimes you step in **** and don't realize it's stinking up the place until you take it off and find it. Sorry for stinking up the place. Can I get a pass this time??



You will only get a pass if you admit that you are the banned member that you speak of. You will only get a pass if you admit that you created a new user name so that you could continue to come on ES.com and create a ruckus. Admit it. Just admit it.

[skinpride1]

:( i have to say that this site has become more of a reading type of site than somewhere where you can post or start threads because of the size and amount of posters here.

Extremeskins is a very boring site now and yes there are members and mods on here that can post at will and attack at will, but oh well who really gives a rat ass anyway the skins are once again the joke of the NFL.

[CandaceM23]

Extremeskins is a very boring site now and yes there are members and mods on here that can post at will and attack at will, but oh well who really gives a rat ass anyway the skins are once again the joke of the NFL.

If it's such a boring site, then why do you continue to come back and post? Just curious.

[Mark The Homer]

Roflmbo! lol

I've never seen this before with ass replaced with butt. LMAO that is funny...

[Major Harris]

If it's such a boring site, then why do you continue to come back and post? Just curious.
it's obvious, he's in love with u.

[joeknows]

lol

I've never seen this before with ass replaced with butt. LMAO that is funny...


hmmm and i was always under the impression that meant laughing something else off but i guess butt fits as well.....

[zskins]

Ok, the only thing written is, "Sound like.." followed by a series of pictures that end with a kid trying to go in the a school for the gifted. The way I comprehend this is that the OP is a retard, only it is being said with pictures and not words. I think I comprehend that correctly, just saying......

Yes I am 11 years old with over 7000 posts who has been here over 2 years. You sir are very observant to details. :)

I believe (mods can help me here) you are not allowed directly attack the poster with name(s). You are allowed to on the hand attack the post as being retarded instead if you only know what the hell the post is about in the first place.

Let me save you from further self embarrassment here even though other have tried to but you seem to fail to see that.

By the way just because I have pictures of my kids as my sig doesn't mean I am the who is really 11. ;)

[Burgundy Burner]

Watch it mister .... Walking the line between saying acceptable things and crap that will get you banned is a fine art which I've perfected. I'll tangle with you today if you don't be careful! ;)

Sticks and stones and all that other stuff. :D

I just feel so much better now - knowing that you care and are concerned. Your next patient should be SC_Redskins. Dude was very wasted last night and he'll probably update that thread in the tailgate later today. :silly:

Hmmm - Redskins related stuff in the Stadium. Ok, the mods are cool and are a great link between the team and members at ES.

Do I get style points for that last paragraph?

[Buffalo_Soldier]

You will only get a pass if you admit that you are the banned member that you speak of. You will only get a pass if you admit that you created a new user name so that you could continue to come on ES.com and create a ruckus. Admit it. Just admit it.

The fact is I am not CosmicBuffalo the banned member, but he lives only about 30 minutes away in San Jose. I live in Fremont and met Paul jamming at an open mic night in Berkeley about 4 years ago. After we realized that both of us started out in DC and were Skins fans we became better friends.

It's true that I took part of his user name to represent him here. The way he explained it to me he actually realizes that he did go postal at the end, and probably deserved to get banned. He's too embarrassed to come back on here anyway. It's true though that when I discovered this message board I invited him to join with me. That's when I got the story, and I guess because he is my friend and a good one I wanted to bring something of his back to the forum with me so I could represent him.

As a singer he goes by Cosmic Buffalo too, very into Native American and very into the Skins as well. Like so many of us that have been relatively patient for the last 17 years to return to something better than what we have seen lately.

[Mark The Homer]

hmmm and i was always under the impression that meant laughing something else off but i guess butt fits as well.....Really? You might be right.


...I believe (mods can help me here) you are not allowed directly attack the poster with name(s). You are allowed to on the hand attack the post as being retarded instead if you only know what the hell the post is about in the first place....Not quite true. It's all about context. Example: If you're engaged with a member, and the member says something you deem idiotic, you may point his statement out and call him an idiot. This is within the allowed guidelines, and has been since before I joined the site. When the name-calling becomes personal or is unprovoked, then it's a violation.

OTOH, the word "retard" is not really PC and some of us don't particularly like it, so that one may very well get you in trouble (even used off-handedly), especially if a fellow member takes offense to it. ;)

[CandaceM23]

The fact is I am not CosmicBuffalo the banned member, but he lives only about 30 minutes away in San Jose.

Liar liar panties on fire. :saber:

Oops. Editing to add a smiley ... or something ... so folks know that I'm not making it personal.

[Buffalo_Soldier]

Liar liar panties on fire.

Those would be your panties? I like you too, that was fast.

[skinpride1]

If it's such a boring site, then why do you continue to come back and post? Just curious.

Cause it's Sunday morning and I'm bored.



oh wait a minute gosh.... i forgot


extremeskins is the best !!!

rah!!! rah!!!!!


extremeskins is the best!!


:hysterical:

rah!!! rah!!!!


GO EXTREMESKINS!!!:silly:

[CandaceM23]

Those would be your panties? I like you too, that was fast.

One could only wish ....
Sorry buster. No luck for you. I think that they might be your panties ... or possibly Cosmic Buffalo's panties. :pokeye:

[zskins]

Really? You might be right.

Not quite true. It's all about context. Example: If you're engaged with a member, and the member says something you deem idiotic, you may point his statement out and call him an idiot. This is within the allowed guidelines, and has been since before I joined the site. When the name-calling becomes personal or is unprovoked, then it's a violation.

OTOH, the word "retard" is not really PC and some of us don't particularly like it, so that one may very well get you in trouble (even used off-handedly), especially if a fellow member takes offense to it. ;)

Thanks for the clarification Mark.

I was thinking about taking offense to that word but I see that couple of posts up that Buffalo has gotten on his knee and has asked to have mercy on his soul. I will let it slide this time. :D

[Geoff_K]

I admit I am sometimes left shaking my head about when a personal attack is not a personal attack. Seems that if you call someone an idiot or stupid that is a personal attack, vs saying they know nothing about (insert subject). But hey, it's yall's pool /shrug

[Buffalo_Soldier]

One could only wish ....
Sorry buster. No luck for you. I think that they might be your panties ... or possibly Cosmic Buffalo's panties. :pokeye:

Well, I don't wear underwear myself, can't speak for CB but I'll ask him today at our regular Skinside party. Please stop poking me in the eye with that stick I can hardly see as it is.

[CandaceM23]

Well, I don't wear underwear myself, can't speak for CB but I'll ask him today at our regular Skinside party. Please stop poking me in the eye with that stick I can hardly see as it is.

I will stop poking you. I will be nice now. On ES, folks like to pick and tease and antagonize. It's wise to have thick skin around here. :) Have fun at your party today. :point2sky

[zskins]

I will stop poking you. I will be nice now. On ES, folks like to pick and tease and antagonize. It's wise to have thick skin around here. :) Have fun at your party today. :point2sky

You mean it is wise to have extreme skin. :evilg:

[Mark The Homer]

... Seems that if you call someone an idiot or stupid that is a personal attack, vs saying they know nothing about (insert subject). But hey, it's yall's pool /shrug

That's why the context is important. Attacking somebody's idiotic statement and at the same time calling them an idiot is not attacking them personally, it's attacking their statement.

If the member started a thread in the Tailgate about how he's just been released after two years at St. Elizabeth's, and somebody said "You're an idiot," that could be considered personal. :)

Edit: The following thread provides a more expansive explanation: http://extremeskins.com/showthread.php?t=290421

[TomE]

I admit I am sometimes left shaking my head about when a personal attack is not a personal attack. Seems that if you call someone an idiot or stupid that is a personal attack, vs saying they know nothing about (insert subject). But hey, it's yall's pool /shrug

Exposing ignorance vs declaring idiocy and/or stupidity are quite different.
Unfortunately, many are ignorant of this fact and those idiots are too stupid to realize it.

[MattFancy]

haha this has to be a joke. that dude sounds like an idiot

[bubba9497]

When the shoe fits.........

I was simply showing how the same impossible truths exist only a few miles from the stadium is all.


sorry, but that's not a truth but a one sided opinion, and here is enough heated exchanges about football to add even more fuel on to the fire with political refrences.

[bubba9497]

If this isn't a personal attack on the 11 year old OP than I don't know what is


no it's a Joke about someone who attacked me on another message board. the OP was Zskins who posted RobbyRock's comments


you really need to get your own message board so you can makeup your own rules, be a mod and get to play judge and jury

[bubba9497]

I'd like to thank Bubba for the following...


Bubba is amazing.
Hail Bubba!

:D


No sweat :thumbsup:

[Geoff_K]

That's why the context is important. Attacking somebody's idiotic statement and at the same time calling them an idiot is not attacking them personally, it's attacking their statement.

If the member started a thread in the Tailgate about how he's just been released after two years at St. Elizabeth's, and somebody said "You're an idiot," that could be considered personal. :)

Edit: The following thread provides a more expansive explanation: http://extremeskins.com/showthread.php?t=290421

Thank you for the link and I see how the rule is being applied and as I said, it is your pool. ;) however ... in reference to a line in the above link's post






this always been the rule of thumb on ES. It's allowed. What it is not, is a personal attack.


you see, when you say a "rule of thumb" that is the little crack between the rules that those in power can allow to be used.

when those not in the know about some old post read the following ..


5. Please be respectful of your fellow members.
Every registered member agrees, upon registration, not use these forums to post material or topics which are knowingly false, defamatory, deceptive, inaccurate, racist, insulting, abusive, inflammatory, vulgar, hateful, harassing, obscene, profane, sexually graphic, physically threatening, invasive of another's privacy or otherwise in violation of any law, including stalking or otherwise harassing individual members.

Personal attacks or threats will not be tolerated. Go after the idea, not the poster. Free debate within the parameters outlined herein is welcome on these forums, and diversity of opinion lies at the heart of a good debate. Toward that end, every member is free to have their own opinion so long as it is expressed in a civil manner, is within the subject matter topic of the forum and does not otherwise violate forum rules.

For the benefit of a very few individuals who believe the second paragraph of this rule is not at all connected with the first, we have deemed it necessary to provide direction. The specifics of this rule require you do not violate any of the parameters clearly laid out in paragraph 1 of this rule, which govern the application of enforcement for the entire rule. And as you debate your fellow members, we request you maintain contact with the content of the discussion within each reply, regardless of how heated it may become. We, again, point to Rule 18 we have not enforced here in some time. Please follow the rules. And please appreciate the people who wrote them know them.

(yes i know you know the rules, however to make it easy for anyone to follow me i posted it. i added the bold part to where i believe there is a conflict)


by reading the Listed rules and looking at the part that i put in bold, seems to be that calling someone an idiot would be against the rules because calling someone an idiot IS attacking them and not their idea.

now maybe they are an idiot, however there are also other things people are that would likely get me a vacation, one you mentioned was not PC and we can all think of others.

Like I said, it is your pool i can go with the flow or stop visiting. I dont tend to call others names and dont usually post enough to get called a name. I can see why some might think something is a personal attack when it isn't according to current thinking.

Maybe alter the rule that everyone can easily locate ?

Anyway, I just hope we win today.

[HailGreen28]

no it's a Joke about someone who attacked me on another message board. the OP was Zskins who posted RobbyRock's comments


you really need to get your own message board so you can makeup your own rules, be a mod and get to play judge and jury...and see how many people stay on his board.

Is Extremeskins THE largest fan-based single-team message board, or just ONE OF THE largest?

[Jumbo]

These threads always go a certain way (a dynamic which offers lessons in itself) and I usually find that until they have run their course they're both entertaining and educational for many members. :saber:

This following isn't "official" I just made it up for a post to summarize. :D

Job description of moderating staff: design and implement rules and guidelines in flexible enough fashion to allow a great deal of freedom and accomodate all sorts of styles, types, passions, and levels of discourse. This should be done as inclusive as possible for every type of member from the more genteel to the more spirited and rough-n-tumble among us, with a fair degree of freedom to express themselves intellectually and emotionally, while still having boundaries and structures that discourage true excess, total chaos, and generally unacceptable levels or types of interaction. Such values in discussion should be generally common to any good quality broad-based internet community message board focused on the sport of pro football. Post the rules for everyone to read, have them electronically note their agreement that they will learn and follow those rules when they register for an account. Include a rule to address all the well-meant criticism, inevitable confusion, outright opposition, and ocassional anger that will occur in reaction to these rules and their application no matter how the rules are written and applied. Have that rule (#18 in our case) state that when in doubt about what a rule means, ask staff, and simply follow it the best you can, always adhering to moderators instructions. Then, once formulated and as evolving, continue to administer the rules and guidelines with the preceding in mind for a very large group of often highly opinionated members, continuously, for free. :D

Member description: post on football and other topics in appropriate forums, learn and follow the rules best you can, try to behave in a way to best stay out of trouble and still really express yourself, and follow staff instructions. :)


Gee, I know how challenging job 1 can be, how hard is job 2? :silly:


Now, for those of you who believe that being a moderator means by job description that you are expected to be some version of Mr. Rogers or a doormat or a saint or a waitperson or take crap from somebody without similar retort if desired or simply be more restricted in expressing yourself than a regular member, you'd be incorrect. ;)

[stevemcqueen1]

Seems like we have one of these threads about every two weeks or so. Someone gets their bahookie in a twist and goes ape-snot crazy on some member(s) or mod(s). Most of the time, it is a harmless rant. This one is a bit different though.

I would recommend that this person be monitored - if at all possible.

I don't know, this guy sounds like a spoiled, stupid 15 year old. I wouldn't be too worried about an idiot like this.

But that's ridiculous and incredibly childish that he'd threaten Mark the Homer like that. Mark, it's nice that you had your family and picture in your signature but I'd consider keeping something more anonymous. You don't want to make yourself a target. It's a shame that people can't just be decent but there are a lot of weirdos and morons around that will cross the line.

[jbooma]

I sort of remember the exchange that got this guy canned, but don't remember his name right now and we've got a movie on in the living room so it may be tomorrow before I look it up if I do at all...but I remember his rant and getting all wound up about bubba and MTH...:)...think it was in an ATN thread, but not sure...I may have been the one who banned him...if so, another good job by me


my money is on TK :):evilg:

[Mark The Homer]

...and see how many people stay on his board.

Is Extremeskins THE largest fan-based single-team message board, or just ONE OF THE largest?

Silly question.

[DaGhost]

That's why the context is important. Attacking somebody's idiotic statement and at the same time calling them an idiot is not attacking them personally, it's attacking their statement.

If the member started a thread in the Tailgate about how he's just been released after two years at St. Elizabeth's, and somebody said "You're an idiot," that could be considered personal. :)

Edit: The following thread provides a more expansive explanation: http://extremeskins.com/showthread.php?t=290421
kind of funny how i just posted in the 'bust the broncos' thread that the mods interpret the rules very loosely based upon who is posting.... some people get banned for trolling doing exactly what you said at the top of your post....

[Mark The Homer]

You mean this?


You don't like it, stay the **** out of the thread.

How is this "doing exactly what you said at the top of your post...."???

We're discussing name-calling. There is no name calling in STB's post. Do I really have to point this out???

Your post, which STB responded to, was basically a thread hijack. STB voiced his opinion of your hijack, interjecting a little color in the process.

It's amazing how much time is spent by moderators repeatedly having to explain simple elementary concepts to the nth degree to so few who remain clueless.

[SKINZ33]

Should have told him to "Kiss the Baby"

Chaaa pleeeeez!

[Mark The Homer]

I too think its wrong for mods to publicly remind unintelligent posters of their shortcomings or the elasticity issues of their Victoria Secrets. :rolleyes:

Not sure if that's genuine sarcasm.

We "remind" in the open so the membership can watch and learn. Otherwise, we'd be overrun.

[Blue Collar Skins]

I want to pick a fight with Mark the Homer all the time at Redskins games, because what better time to do it than when he is in front of his family! How dare he ban someone for being so moronic it makes you scratch your head wondering how that gene pool has survived. How dare he moderate a message board that is free to any punk with a computer can try to express their frustrations by bullying other folks, because mommy and daddy don't care. After-all negative attention is better than no attention....right? I should be able to say on any message board that I will kick other people's butts, regardless of the fact that I weigh only 120 pounds and flunked out of karate classes.

[Jumbo]

kind of funny how i just posted in the 'bust the broncos' thread that the mods interpret the rules very loosely based upon who is posting.... some people get banned for trolling doing exactly what you said at the top of your post....


Yes, and your post in there was clueless. And the guy you were "teaming up" with (who just got perma-banned) had copious user notes from a number of mods and previous bans. Same ole same ole.

So here ya go, Da G:

Sometimes we just get tired of people not listening or continuing arguing about **** they either know little about and refuse to learn, or in the end, is just not really their concern nor involves them in any way. When some one has a legit critique and is decent about it, no problem. Though most "critics", especially the oppositional "bias-whiner" type, never seem to be aware enough to use the feedback forum or PM their "input." That type often seems to desire the extra attention from kibitizing in threads even when moderating isn't the topic (like you in the bronco thread).

Unfounded or fallacious accusations are not ok, and never have been, and such is even mentioned (guess where?--in the rules). Those are the same rules that have always been here and helped make the forum the major success it's long been. Since you want to keep bitching about how the board is managed, yet continue to hold yourself hostage here, I am taking upon myself to alleviate you of your struggles.

If you're too damn dense to understand that just as in any similar situation, management staff have to make judgment calls and that there no is no way to please everyone all the time (we even get plenty of “you don‘t ban enough“ complaints), yet you still want to keep bitching about it in the specific fashion you choose, then you qualify for the "too stupid to post here" group.

Legitimate, informed criticism from considered thought delivered appropriately is great. Insistent and willfully ignorant or oppositional harping is not helpful, needed, or wanted. From you, it is done.

We have no issue with weeding out the extra-argumentative types when they go out of their way. The board is inundated with enough attitude that such departures are hardly a negative. And while any idjit can play the "oh, right, ban the people who are challenging why you ban people" card, it is just that--an "idgit" card.

The line of thought that stupidity or rule breaking of a specific type should be "safe" from consequences simply because it "calls out" the consequences as being abused, is foolish. Any idea that I as a mod will automatically avoid employing such consequences out of any trepidation for how it might "appear" to those who think in such fashion, is very mistaken.

[Blue Collar Skins]

So here ya go, Da G: Dang jumbo just brought a nuke to a gun party.

[Mark The Homer]

...But why would anyone have that much of a problem with MTH, of all people?...Well, don't be getting all comfortable with me. DH once told me TK was a nice guy too at one point. But after a while, this **** starts to wear you down. He said when I turn mean like all the other mods, he was going to show me his post and tell me "I told you so." Hahah.

[TK]

my money is on TK :):evilg:
Just like Art, I'll be happy to take your money. :)

[Blue Collar Skins]

Well being a mod on here is a thankless job. For one, you don't get paid. Second, you deal with all the crap of so many different personalities conflicting. Third, you have to deal with posters of other teams who in all their creative glory don't want to have intelligent discussions, but rather mornoic babbling. Fourth, you don't get paid...oh wait :silly:

[fire5man80]

I found someone who can watch out for you if this so called "internet tough" comes looking to start problems again.

http://img195.imageshack.us/img195/82/internettoughguy1.jpg
Awww, now thats special. Is that you and your little buddies down there in Richmond. Mommy must be proud of her little soldier.
Truth is dude, the picture itself is funny. The way it was used in your attempt to be funny really wasnt. But I'll give you a D for effort. Keep trying though one day people will be actually be amused by your joke and not just your....... Im gonna leave that blank, like I said I enjoy posting on here. Have a nice night.

[Santana_89]

Should have told him to "Kiss the Baby"


:rotflmao: child please :rotflmao:

[Major Harris]

That's why the context is important. Attacking somebody's idiotic statement and at the same time calling them an idiot is not attacking them personally, it's attacking their statement.


this is known by us peons as "the art rule," made up so art could be an ******* however he see fit.

sorry, if you say "you're an idiot" after someone makes an idiotic statement, that's a personal attack, especially considering that idiocy is often times subjective.

if you say "that's an idiotic statement," THAT is attacking the statement.

[WhoRUSupposed2Be]

Sounds like a cross between


http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s107/jumboskins/authentic_drama_queen.jpg


....and....

http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s107/jumboskins/FontanaPA_468x891.jpg


....and....

http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s107/jumboskins/troll.jpg


...and...


http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s107/jumboskins/talkoutofass.jpg

...and...


http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s107/jumboskins/panic_attack.jpg


...and...

http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s107/jumboskins/funny.jpg




:D :hysterical:

Too funny! :hysterical:

[Mark The Homer]

http://extremeskins.com/showthread.php?t=278186