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L30L
November-8th-2009, 05:04 PM
http://www.csnwashington.com/pages/landing_09/?blockID=88304&feedID=2992
:doh:
Toe Jam
November-8th-2009, 05:06 PM
Please format your thread title correctly.
CSN: Hall to file complaint with NFL Commisioner
Then post a small amount of the article underneath the link in your post.
DexterMorgan
November-8th-2009, 05:07 PM
They are paying that WOMAN a lot of money.:doh:
SMOSS89
November-8th-2009, 05:07 PM
where's the steve spurrier lip flap .gif? thats me right now
Dallascrushers
November-8th-2009, 05:07 PM
Wish Haynesworth was over there earlier...he would have sat on stupid ass Mike Smith
Metskins
November-8th-2009, 05:08 PM
Just another big time signing that went BUST. AGAIN!
Thanks Vinny! Thanks Danny!
Santana_89
November-8th-2009, 05:08 PM
already metioned in this thread
http://extremeskins.com/showthread.php?t=307467
F.Y.I -some posters may take a shot at you given your username and he was the catalyst for the incident...just sayin';)
spjunkies
November-8th-2009, 05:09 PM
He has some thick eyebrows.
L30L
November-8th-2009, 05:09 PM
F.Y.I -some posters may take a shot at you given your username and he was the catalyst for the incident...just sayin';)
Tell me about...said a few weeks ago I regret having this SN. :doh:
SMOSS89
November-8th-2009, 05:10 PM
Oh yeah, love the PR guy like LAST QUESTION GUYS, LAST QUESTION. As if to say "DeAngelo, just shut the **** up!"
RenegadeTK
November-8th-2009, 05:10 PM
hall needs to spend all his extra time learning how to tackle. i'm tired of watching him and LL blow tackles
HailGreen28
November-8th-2009, 05:11 PM
Meh. The falcons were classless in that situation.
Maybe Hall should take the high road now, but hey if you're going to fine defenders for normal hits on QBs............... might as well look at their sidelines.
Laxpunk2006
November-8th-2009, 05:13 PM
Landry's hit was late and Hall was probably saying plenty of things he shouldn't have on the sideline that we'll never hear. Regardless there is video evidence that I mentioned in the game thread as soon as it happened that Mike Smith placed his hands on Hall in an innapropriate manner. Considering Tom Cable broke an assistant's jaw without league ramifications I don't expect Smith to face any repurcussions but that doesn't mean he shouldn't. Mike Smith and the assistant coach/trainer are just as, if not more in the wrong than anyone else in that scrum.
Dallascrushers
November-8th-2009, 05:14 PM
yea good point the lorenzo alexander roughing the passer call was a ****ing joke...unbelievable
stwasm
November-8th-2009, 05:15 PM
I am so sick of this man. By the way, did anyone catch it during the game when Jerry Gray was trying to tell him something and Hall acted like he really didn't care what Gray had to say? What a moron.
RichmondRedskin88
November-8th-2009, 05:15 PM
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Santana_89
November-8th-2009, 05:17 PM
Tell me about...said a few weeks ago I regret having this SN. :doh:
I'm still a Landry fan tho:)
SlinginSammy HOF '63
November-8th-2009, 05:17 PM
For the first time ever I am embarassed to be a Skins fan. Not only the bad play this year, but then our defensive guys showing their arses on that play. Laron nailing a QB in the back way out of bounds when he knew full well Ryan was going out. These morons need ditched. Freaking maggots. This isn't the Redskins. These are a bunch of high maintenance divas wearing burgundy laundry
ECU-ALUM
November-8th-2009, 05:19 PM
I am so sick of this man. By the way, did anyone catch it during the game when Jerry Gray was trying to tell him something and Hall acted like he really didn't care what Gray had to say? What a moron.
This team me reminds of the plane in "Top-Gun." In a flat spin and heading out to sea. The players know the coaches are gone next year why should they have to listen...not saying I disagree with you but that seems to be the attitude.
thedevilhimself
November-8th-2009, 05:21 PM
http://www.wikio.co.uk/video/1950331
Its a really bad video ...but you can see the member of the coaching staff and a couple of players raising thier arms to Hall where as Hall bearly lifts his arms until his he is being dragged away ... I think people are reading too much into the slow cavalrey .... I think they thought it would be nothing as Landry was starting to walk away as Hall was jawing at the bench ...
Laxpunk2006
November-8th-2009, 05:22 PM
I am so sick of this man. By the way, did anyone catch it during the game when Jerry Gray was trying to tell him something and Hall acted like he really didn't care what Gray had to say? What a moron.
Just because he wasn't gazing deep into his eyes doesn't mean he wasn't paying attention or didn't care. It amazes me that fans can make such strong opinions based on 2-3 second clips without actually having any idea what is going on.
WhoRUSupposed2Be
November-8th-2009, 05:25 PM
I am so sick of this man. By the way, did anyone catch it during the game when Jerry Gray was trying to tell him something and Hall acted like he really didn't care what Gray had to say? What a moron.
At this point, it doesn't really matter what the coaches say to you.
kobra860
November-8th-2009, 05:26 PM
Hall was bad news from day one. He was public enemy number one on the Falcons and the Raiders got rid of him in the middle of the season even after giving him a big contract. The Raiders! I'm not surprised by any of this. However, I'm surprised by how bad his tackling is. I've heard stories before but I didn't know it was that bad...
Santana_89
November-8th-2009, 05:33 PM
Just because he wasn't gazing deep into his eyes doesn't mean he wasn't paying attention or didn't care. It amazes me that fans can make such strong opinions based on 2-3 second clips without actually having any idea what is going on.
you know that saying about opinons and such ;)
clarkskin
November-8th-2009, 05:36 PM
yea good point the lorenzo alexander roughing the passer call was a ****ing joke...unbelievable
100% agree. This protecting the QB BS has gone way too far.
monkeezgob
November-8th-2009, 05:42 PM
He should shut his mouth and concentrate on improving his tackling.
Phixius
November-8th-2009, 05:43 PM
Hall is more concerned about speaking to Goodell, rather than improving on his tackling. There's bigger things going on with your team than your little crusade getting revenge on the Falcons organization. Shows where his head is at. As Hall started mouthing off with the Falcons players, Landry was heading back to his side.
BigMike21
November-8th-2009, 05:44 PM
Tell me about...said a few weeks ago I regret having this SN. :doh:
Tell me about it too....I bought an authentic Landry jersey a couple of years ago...:doh:
BigMike21
November-8th-2009, 05:46 PM
I don't really care about the Hall fight. That stuff can happen in football games and it didn't really escalate so I could care less. But I do care about the penalty that led to the fight because that affected the football game....It was stupid and thuggish of LL30 to do that. It reminded me of his hit on Jacobs out of bounds during week 1 this year.
hoskins
November-8th-2009, 05:46 PM
He should shut his mouth and concentrate on improving his tackling.
Seriously. DHall has all of the tackling acumen of Deion Sanders.
Except without the Hall of Fame quality coverage skills.
Sndman8369
November-8th-2009, 05:47 PM
Wow this board is so funny. When Hall and or Landry f*** up yall are all over them, calling them busts ect.......... But when they make a play its "I knew it, they are so great ect......." I know they need to learn to tackle better, but they are still solid PERIOD.
BigMike21
November-8th-2009, 05:48 PM
Seriously. DHall has all of the tackling acumen of Deion Sanders.
Except without the Hall of Fame quality coverage skills.
And hall of fame punt returning skills. His return was just as horrendous as ARE's have been.
stwasm
November-8th-2009, 05:49 PM
This team me reminds of the plane in "Top-Gun." In a flat spin and heading out to sea. The players know the coaches are gone next year why should they have to listen...not saying I disagree with you but that seems to be the attitude.
Ladies and gentlemen, your Washington Redskins!
#98QBKiller
November-8th-2009, 05:49 PM
Hall is an idiot and he sucks at tackling. But the he didn't start the melee with the Falcons and Mike Smith did put his hands on Hall first.
Landry deserved the penalty but IMO, that scuffle wasn't on Hall.
Phixius
November-8th-2009, 05:51 PM
Wow this board is so funny. When Hall and or Landry f*** up yall are all over them, calling them busts ect.......... But when they make a play its "I knew it, they are so great ect......." I know they need to learn to tackle better, but they are still solid PERIOD.I haven't been impressed with Hall at all this season. He's constantly getting beat by receivers and Landry all he does is go for big hits and miss.
hoskins
November-8th-2009, 05:51 PM
Wow this board is so funny. When Hall and or Landry f*** up yall are all over them, calling them busts ect.......... But when they make a play its "I knew it, they are so great ect......." I know they need to learn to tackle better, but they are still solid PERIOD.
Seriously? Define "solid".
Call me crazy, but in my mind a "solid" defensive player is one that can tackle. Sort of a fundamental skill in defensive football, don't you think?
Phixius
November-8th-2009, 05:56 PM
Hall is an idiot and he sucks at tackling. But the he didn't start the melee with the Falcons and Mike Smith did put his hands on Hall first.
Landry deserved the penalty but IMO, that scuffle wasn't on Hall.He didn't start the melee but he had no business staying over there. Even Landry was leaving their sidelines as Hall started running his mouth. Exactly who was Hall trying to defending? Notice how Hall is all on his own but he claims he was trying stick up for his teammates. Landry didn't care at all until he turned around and notice Hall getting into it with the Falcons.
I do agree that Mike Smith should be punished as well. He had no business getting involved and it does appear that he said something that pissed Hall off.
#98QBKiller
November-8th-2009, 05:59 PM
He didn't start the melee but he had no business staying over there. Even Landry was leaving their sidelines as Hall started running his mouth. Exactly who was Hall trying to defending? Notice how Hall is all on his own but he claims he was trying stick up for his teammates. Landry didn't care at all until he turned around and notice Hall getting into it with the Falcons.
I do agree that Mike Smith should be punished as well. He had no business getting involved and it does appear that he said something that pissed Hall off.
It looked to me like they were holding Hall over there.
OU_skins
November-8th-2009, 06:02 PM
Wow this board is so funny. When Hall and or Landry f*** up yall are all over them, calling them busts ect.......... But when they make a play its "I knew it, they are so great ect......." I know they need to learn to tackle better, but they are still solid PERIOD.
I don't know if anyone has said "they are so great" about anyone this season.
hoskins
November-8th-2009, 06:06 PM
It looked to me like they were holding Hall over there.
Oh, you're right, I don't think he did anything wrong there.
But come on. "That 50-year old man touched me. I'm going to tell on him to the commissioner! It's not fair, that hurt! I'm going to tell!"
ZoEd
November-8th-2009, 06:06 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TDee021Vp5w
I didn't get to watch the game today but I think it's obvious from this video that Hall was in an extremely hostile situation and there's no way in HELL Smith was trying to restore order or didn't know it was Dante Hall he had grabbed up in the jersey around his neck. Bull****! Hall is right about this one people, Smith and the other coach were instigating this incident.
By the way, Landry was airborn way before Ryan went out of bounds. It was a late hit only because it was a QB. Didn't one of our guys get creamed out of bounds a couple weeks ago and they claim the hit was initiated in bounds? This was pretty damn close to being the same thing. Kind of hard to change direction once you're in the air.
Papabear
November-8th-2009, 06:10 PM
Please format your thread title correctly.
CSN: Hall to file complaint with NFL Commisioner
Then post a small amount of the article underneath the link in your post.
lol, Toe Jam for mod!!!!! :rolleyes:
flexxskins
November-8th-2009, 06:10 PM
I am so sick of this man. By the way, did anyone catch it during the game when Jerry Gray was trying to tell him something and Hall acted like he really didn't care what Gray had to say? What a moron."Acted like"?
I know what you meant whn you said that stwasm, but IMO Hall has proven that he truly does not care a long time ago.
When I go back and look at games, Hall actually plays like he is trying to keep his jersey from getting dirty. Seriously...I'm joking when I say that either.
Phixius
November-8th-2009, 06:15 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TDee021Vp5w
I didn't get to watch the game today but I think it's obvious from this video that Hall was in an extremely hostile situation and there's no way in HELL Smith was trying to restore order or didn't know it was Dante Hall he had grabbed up in the jersey around his neck. Bull****! Hall is right about this one people, Smith and the other coach were instigating this incident.
By the way, Landry was airborn way before Ryan went out of bounds. It was a late hit only because it was a QB. Didn't one of our guys get creamed out of bounds a couple weeks ago and they claim the hit was initiated in bounds? This was pretty damn close to being the same thing. Kind of hard to change direction once you're in the air.Landry shouldn't of been airborn in the first place. It was clear that Ryan was heading to the sidelines. Did Landry actually thought a QB was going to turn upwards for additional few yards? Looking at Ryan's angle, he was heading straight towards the sidelines with Landry running in full speed. Landry had time to slow down. He wanted to hit Ryan whether he was out of bounds or not.
BigMike21
November-8th-2009, 06:16 PM
Landry shouldn't of been airborn in the first place. It was clear that Ryan was heading to the sidelines. Did Landry actually thought a QB was going to turn upwards for additional few yards? Looking at Ryan's angle, he was heading straight towards the sidelines with Landry running in full speed. Landry had time to slow down. He wanted to hit Ryan whether he was out of bounds or not.
Exactly. Landry just did it because he wants to hit someone hard. It was a stupid football play.
#98QBKiller
November-8th-2009, 06:17 PM
But come on. "That 50-year old man touched me. I'm going to tell on him to the commissioner! It's not fair, that hurt! I'm going to tell!"
Yeah that is pretty lame. But I guess what I meant is that there are plenty of reasons to dislike Hall (can't tackle worth a ****) but the incident today wasn't one of them IMO.
I was more pissed at Landry.
GoSkins561
November-8th-2009, 06:18 PM
For the first time ever I am embarassed to be a Skins fan. Not only the bad play this year, but then our defensive guys showing their arses on that play. Laron nailing a QB in the back way out of bounds when he knew full well Ryan was going out. These morons need ditched. Freaking maggots. This isn't the Redskins. These are a bunch of high maintenance divas wearing burgundy laundry
I actually thought it was a great hit and I loved the fight after it. The Skins had nothing at this point in the game and it showed they were ready to get there and fight. Hall jumping in and taking on 15 falcons, and Hayneswort getting his back. At some point the Skins needed to start playing physical and I thought this lit a fire, even if they broke off a nice run shortly after. I wish they acted like this on a regular basis....on the field.
hoskins
November-8th-2009, 06:21 PM
Yeah that is pretty lame. But I guess what I meant is that there are plenty of reasons to dislike Hall (can't tackle worth a ****) but the incident today wasn't one of them IMO.
I was more pissed at Landry.
Fair enough. I agree with you on all 3 points there.
ZoEd
November-8th-2009, 06:22 PM
Landry shouldn't of been airborn in the first place. It was clear that Ryan was heading to the sidelines. Did Landry actually thought a QB was going to turn upwards for additional few yards? Looking at Ryan's angle, he was heading straight towards the sidelines with Landry running in full speed. Landry had time to slow down. He wanted to hit Ryan whether he was out of bounds or not.
So what you're saying is you've never seen a Donovan McNabb or any other QB act like they're going out of bounds only to tip toe up the sideline for four or five more yards? Seriously? Of course he wanted to hit his ass, who wouldn't want to take a shot at the oppositions QB?
If Landry would have pulled up and Ryan trotted for more yards you'd be bitching about that as well.
Bunch of whiners on the ****ing board these days.
GoSkins561
November-8th-2009, 06:22 PM
lol, Toe Jam for mod!!!!! :rolleyes:
:laugh:
I thought the same thing, he is trying to become Modified.
hoskins
November-8th-2009, 06:26 PM
If Landry would have pulled up and Ryan trotted for more yards you'd be bitching about that as well.
So the right answer for a professional defensive player is to stay on his feet, run the guy out of bounds, and then tackle or push him IF he tries to come back in. If he runs with the QB and keeps his hands on him, there is no penalty. and no way the QB gets upfield.
Going for the kill shot there is just stupid. Downright stupid. And this is a recurring theme with Landry.
GoSkins561
November-8th-2009, 06:26 PM
So what you're saying is you've never seen a Donovan McNabb or any other QB act like they're going out of bounds only to tip toe up the sideline for four or five more yards? Seriously? Of course he wanted to hit his ass, who wouldn't want to take a shot at the oppositions QB?
If Landry would have pulled up and Ryan trotted for more yards you'd be bitching about that as well.
Bunch of whiners on the ****ing board these days.
no doubt, the NFL is turning into The National Pussball League.
zoony
November-8th-2009, 06:30 PM
I have Hall's back on this one. And quite frankly I don't understand why any Redskins' fan wouldn't.
That coach from Atlanta is tough with his team standing around him, but no way in hell he says a dam thing if it's just him.
That's pretty much the definition of a punk ass little *****. :whoknows:
GoSkins561
November-8th-2009, 06:31 PM
So the right answer for a professional defensive player is to stay on his feet, run the guy out of bounds, and then tackle or push him IF he tries to come back in. If he runs with the QB and keeps his hands on him, there is no penalty. and no way the QB gets upfield.
Going for the kill shot there is just stupid. Downright stupid. And this is a recurring theme with Landry.
Run him out of bounds, but even if you know he is running out of bounds you should crush him anyway with in reason.
zoony
November-8th-2009, 06:31 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TDee021Vp5w
I didn't get to watch the game today but I think it's obvious from this video that Hall was in an extremely hostile situation and there's no way in HELL Smith was trying to restore order or didn't know it was Dante Hall he had grabbed up in the jersey around his neck. Bull****! Hall is right about this one people, Smith and the other coach were instigating this incident.
By the way, Landry was airborn way before Ryan went out of bounds. It was a late hit only because it was a QB. Didn't one of our guys get creamed out of bounds a couple weeks ago and they claim the hit was initiated in bounds? This was pretty damn close to being the same thing. Kind of hard to change direction once you're in the air.
Absolutely 100% correct.
That coach is trash.
......
Phixius
November-8th-2009, 06:32 PM
So what you're saying is you've never seen a Donovan McNabb or any other QB act like they're going out of bounds only to tip toe up the sideline for four or five more yards? Seriously? Of course he wanted to hit his ass, who wouldn't want to take a shot at the oppositions QB?
If Landry would have pulled up and Ryan trotted for more yards you'd be bitching about that as well.
Bunch of whiners on the ****ing board these days.Watch the video.
JoeGibbs3.0
November-8th-2009, 06:34 PM
this clown is robbing money in broad daylight without a mask and a smile.
Lombardi's_kid_brother
November-8th-2009, 06:36 PM
So, I gather that we are staying positive. Excellent.
redskins59
November-8th-2009, 06:42 PM
I don't know whether Hall started the scuffle or not, but, while Hall does suck as a tackler, he is pretty solid in coverage. Matt Ryan had 130 yards passing. Not an "elite" stat. Our secondary is one of the best in the league. The problem is the run defense.
RFK Lives
November-8th-2009, 06:43 PM
Thanks for posting the video. Coach Smith should definitely get a call from the Commissioner's office. The refs threw the flag, that should be the end of it. If you want to get physical with the players, coach, then I suggest you strap on a helmet.
redskins59
November-8th-2009, 06:44 PM
Posted twice.
buenosdiaz
November-8th-2009, 06:56 PM
nothing like grown men making threats at much older men lol
joecool1313
November-8th-2009, 07:02 PM
"I thought everybody kept it together," Zorn said. "I thought the officials handled it very well. I was watching on the big screen and I knew that DeAngelo was over there and I knew that was a bad place for him to be so I tried to get over there and help the situation. But even DeAngelo coming back to me, he had a real sense of control about the situation, too."
That just goes to show how clueless our "head" coach is!!!! I have had enough of this S**T. You have got to be kidding me, We are 2-6 and still you make no significant changes to our line up?!?!?! Lauron Landry after that pittiful attempt at a tackle today you would be riding the bench for the rest of the season. YOU SUCK!!!!! Now that our season is officially over lets start trying to find out if anybody on this roster is worth keeping. Let start some younger guys like barnes, Mitchell,Rinehart...ECT!
Oh and bye the way Jason Campbell You SUCK THE MOST OUT OF EVERY STARTING QB IN THE LEAGUE!!!! You were out played today by a Rookie Qb in Tampa bay making his first start!!! Good bye!!
RabidFan
November-8th-2009, 07:04 PM
Hall is more concerned about speaking to Goodell, rather than improving on his tackling. There's bigger things going on with your team than your little crusade getting revenge on the Falcons organization. Shows where his head is at. As Hall started mouthing off with the Falcons players, Landry was heading back to his side.
do you expect him to tackle Kelly from Comcast after the game instead of talking? Jesus, you're reaching....it was postgame.
HigSkin
November-8th-2009, 07:06 PM
NFL network has multiple views and it appears Smith does throw an elbow to Hall's head.
http://www.nfl.com/news/story?id=09000d5d814060fe&template=with-video-with-comments&confirm=true
91DUKESOLB44
November-8th-2009, 07:07 PM
Maybe Hall should be more concerned by the missed takles he had today instead of what a coach said to him. Hall is pure class.
DieHardSkinz
November-8th-2009, 07:08 PM
Hall needs to learn his craft which should be coverage and tackling, instead of crying to the commish like a little biatch.
Something (HIS CRAFT) he's not very good at!
ZoEd
November-8th-2009, 07:09 PM
Watch the video.
I posted the link to the video, wouldn't have posted it if I didn't watch it.
Again, if it were a WR or RB 50/50 it gets called, QB 100% of the time. Personally, anytime you get a chance to take a shot at the QB you take it. You want to run out of the pocket you're fair game. Honestly I hope he would have gotten KTFO!
By the way, the fatties landing on McNabb in the endzone, the one that broke his rib, was waaaaaayyyyyyy more malicious than this hit on Ryan but there was no flag. Just saying.
91DUKESOLB44
November-8th-2009, 07:11 PM
NFL network has multiple views and it appears Smith does throw an elbow to Hall's head.
http://www.nfl.com/news/story?id=09000d5d814060fe&template=with-video-with-comments&confirm=true
Smith did not throw an elbow, it was Hall moving Smith's arm out of the way. Hall was the instigator and I hope he gets fined.
DieselPwr44
November-8th-2009, 07:11 PM
You guys got this all wrong.
Coach Smith had seen enough.
He was trying to show Hall the proper technique on making a tackle.
:silly:
RonArtest15
November-8th-2009, 07:13 PM
Hall's a herb...this fool REALLY challenged a 60 year old man to a fight??? LOLOLOLOL
StillUnknown
November-8th-2009, 07:14 PM
But come on. "That 50-year old man touched me. I'm going to tell on him to the commissioner! It's not fair, that hurt! I'm going to tell!"
makes him look real feline
sadly enough if they were to fight, i think Smith would take him
GOSKINS_08
November-8th-2009, 07:14 PM
I dont blame Hall for being upset, it looked like as soon as he went over there the whole falcons bench was on him..And Mike Smith needed to stay the **** out of it, no way a head coach should push another teams player..I wish Hall or Haynesworth would have knocked Mike Smith on his ass.
Skinz248
November-8th-2009, 07:15 PM
Everyone bashing D Hall for this is blind. As a coach you SHOULD be held to a HIGHER standard than YOUR players AND staff. I think D Hall should give his case. If a Redskins Coach pulled this ****, I would want them to be FIRED. Yes even if it was Joe Gibbs.
Vicious
November-8th-2009, 07:16 PM
They got scared when Haynesworth came over chucking people.
Drastik
November-8th-2009, 07:17 PM
Hall went over to grab Landry up... but instead he gets grabbed and muscled around by some coach on the sideline.... then the Head Coach comes and starts screaming at D.Hall.... and ultimately throwing an elbow at his face..
How in the world do you blame this on Hall... I guess your argument is that he needs to hit the weight room some more so he can pull away from the people grabbing his shoulderpads quicker.
renaissance
November-8th-2009, 07:18 PM
Why the hell was a coach having to be pulled away by HIS PLAYERS? lol
StillUnknown
November-8th-2009, 07:19 PM
Hall went over to grab Landry up... but instead he gets grabbed and muscled around by some coach on the sideline.... then the Head Coach comes and starts screaming at D.Hall.... and ultimately throwing an elbow at his face..
How in the world do you blame this on Hall... I guess your argument is that he needs to hit the weight room some more so he can pull away from the people grabbing his shoulderpads quicker.
seems like he should be focused on playing better than dwelling on this.
he played like ass today, now it seems like he's trying to throw his focus on something else
it just makes him look weak overall
chow184
November-8th-2009, 07:19 PM
alot of people here are just talking **** without watching the situation again
http://www.nfl.com/news/story?id=09000d5d814060fe&template=with-video-with-comments&confirm=true
a falcons coach bald/white guy grabs hall then,as hall trys to get the guy off him by shoving him a falcons player grabs hall then mike smith comes over and grabs hall and the fun begins.
whoever that coach/trainer was that originally grabbed hall should get a nice fine and talking to by goodell. way out of line. as for mike smith. the only way he needs to be touching an opponents player is a handshake.
Skinz248
November-8th-2009, 07:20 PM
Funny how Ryan and LL weren't even involved in ANY part of that besides the play. They actually looked like the cleared it up running back to the huddles. Falcons staff was CLASSLESS in that incident.
Drastik
November-8th-2009, 07:21 PM
he played like ass today, now it seems like he's trying to throw his focus on something else
could have fooled me... Roddy White is one of the best WRs in the league and he didnt do anything today.... Seems like D.Hall played well.
The people who played like ass today were the linebackers, defensive lineman, and safeties... I've never seen so many missed tackles and poor containment assignments in my life...
Santana_89
November-8th-2009, 07:22 PM
NFL network has multiple views and it appears Smith does throw an elbow to Hall's head.
http://www.nfl.com/news/story?id=09000d5d814060fe&template=with-video-with-comments&confirm=true
I watched the clip on YT several times and Mike Smith does place his hands on DeAngelo in such a manner to harm him not restrain him.
SpringfieldSkins
November-8th-2009, 07:23 PM
Hall wasn't in the wrong. Neither was Landry on the same play either. That's the kind of fire our team needs to show on a regular basis.
Santana_89
November-8th-2009, 07:26 PM
Hall wasn't in the wrong. Neither was Landry on the same play either. That's the kind of fire our team needs to show on a regular basis.
Seeing Fat Albert come over and stand up for his teammates was :D.
I loved it.
evmiii
November-8th-2009, 07:30 PM
Much excitement over nothing. Three offsides for first down made me much more angry than a late hit and scuffle.:chair:
TD Riggo
November-8th-2009, 07:39 PM
Hall would be wise to shut up.
Having said that, it looked to me that their head coach should be fined by the league. When watching the game, and the replays afterward, the ATL HC (Mike ?? .. I can't remember his last name) was pretty hotheaded and there is no doubt in my mind that he went to Hall and Landry with the intent to fight.
An NFL HC should be expected to try to alleviate any skirmishes regardless of whether he thought the opposing player did something wrong. The ref had already thrown the flag right in front him, so he knew that it was a penalty. You could see his face getting really red (in anger), he was cussing a blue streak, and then he got involved in the skirmish instead of trying to get his players out of it. He should be fined BIG time, and possibly even suspended for a game or two.
TotalRecall
November-8th-2009, 07:39 PM
Their sideline did grab him and prevent him from leaving. The referees did nothing about it. Haynesworth came over and finally got them to back off. The referees then threw a flag on Albert. The officiating at the end of the second quarter was bad. That roughing the QB penalty on Alexander was BS! I'm surprised they actually threw an intentional grounding penalty on Ryan.
SkinsCrushCowboys
November-8th-2009, 07:41 PM
A 60 year old man is going to harm Me Angelo....give me a break. I hated him at Va Tech and still think he is yet another crappy club house guy, the kind Vinnie is so fond of. Make a tackle and shut your mouth. The coach is also a turd
Drastik
November-8th-2009, 07:43 PM
A 60 year old man is going to harm Me Angelo....give me a break. I hated him at Va Tech and still think he is yet another crappy club house guy, the kind Vinnie is so fond of. Make a tackle and shut your mouth
Mike Smith is 50. And I dont care how old you are, don't put your hands on another man in that manner if you dont expect a reaction.
zskins
November-8th-2009, 07:44 PM
If a teacher you didn't like cursed you out would you tell the principal? Be honest.
SkinsCrushCowboys
November-8th-2009, 07:47 PM
Mike Smith is 50. And I dont care how old you are, don't put your hands on another man in that manner if you dont expect a reaction.
My bad, at 50, I totally support MeAngelo now.....:evilg:
STBonecrusher21
November-8th-2009, 07:52 PM
Albert Haynesworth is awesome in that vid.
Total badass..
Drastik
November-8th-2009, 07:53 PM
My bad, at 50, I totally support MeAngelo now.....:evilg:
Doesn't matter how old he is. If that was you and he came and grabbed you up by your collar screaming obscenities... what would you do?
SkinsCrushCowboys
November-8th-2009, 07:54 PM
Doesn't matter how old he is. If that was you and he came and grabbed you up by your collar screaming obscenities... what would you do?
You're obvoisly not married..LOL....We will agree to disagree on this one. I think Hall went into the game looking for a situation. Had been talking smack all week...
Hail
skinsince72
November-8th-2009, 07:56 PM
It looked like the bald guy grabbed Hall and kept him from getting out of there. The video clearly shows him holding Hall by the chest pads. Landry was out pretty quickly and I think Atlanta's head coach thought Hall was Landry and came over and got into it.
Landry finally came back but it was big Al that came in and shoved a falcon and knocked 3-4 guys back. I'm sure there's audio out there that the NFL can investigate. I, for one, am glad to see a little life on the team. I wish JC would have ran over and starting throwing muay thai knees!!
Drastik
November-8th-2009, 07:58 PM
You're obvoisly not married..LOL....We will agree to disagree on this one. I think Hall went into the game looking for a situation. Had been talking smack all week...
Hail
So, if someone you're competing against, regardless of age, comes to grab you and scream in your face... you're going to be cool with that???
RonArtest15
November-8th-2009, 07:59 PM
This is the same guy who tried to fight Harry Douglas last year in the tunnel...
Filing a "complaint" makes him look like a big herb. Then he calls out Coach "Smiff" and said he'll be in Atlanta this offseason if he wants to find him....LOLOLOLOL...again, who's he fooling in trying to play the victim card by contacting the commish, and then he says some nonsense in the post game show where he's seemingly not opposed to fighting a 50 year old man in the offseason? Yall can defend him till you're blue in the face because he's a Redskin, but it doesn't hide the fact that he comes off as a lame.
chow184
November-8th-2009, 08:01 PM
point blank,hall got punked by the falcons sideline,and he got punked by the fox crew covering the game as they made him out to be the instigator.
d0ublestr0ker0ll
November-8th-2009, 08:01 PM
He should file a complaint to his toughness.
Redskin4ever
November-8th-2009, 08:02 PM
I guess someone needs to lighten the mood. I'm probably laughing at this because I've gone football insane and I don't know any better. But did you see Mike Smith's quote?
"Some of them were wearing black helmets and some of them were wearing maroon helmets"
He probably doesn't even know that our head coach thinks those are our colors.
Phixius
November-8th-2009, 08:03 PM
do you expect him to tackle Kelly from Comcast after the game instead of talking? Jesus, you're reaching....it was postgame.Yeah, that what exactly I wanted Hall to do. Hall does nothing but run his mouth each and every week about he needs to play better but does absolutely nothing and he's trying to pick a fight with Smith. "I'll be in Atlanta in the offseason" Give me a break.
macnoke03
November-8th-2009, 08:25 PM
I'd like to file a complaint against Hall for being so terrible.
Bang
November-8th-2009, 08:33 PM
I am so sick of this man. By the way, did anyone catch it during the game when Jerry Gray was trying to tell him something and Hall acted like he really didn't care what Gray had to say? What a moron.
Have you seen how our secondary plays?
Why would anyone listen to Jerry Grey?
Isn't he the guy who has been teachingt LaRon Landry how to tackle, how to take proper angles? (Something he fails to do on a SPECTACULARLY consistent basis...)
Is he the one teaching Carlos rogers to play 12 yards off on 3rd and 4? Is he the one that makes sure Rogers turns his back on every receiver that blocks him? Vs Philly i saw Rogers turn away from a block by Maclin when he could have made a tackle attempt on Jackson at the ten yard lijne. Rogers turned and ran into the end zone.. shadowed Jackson... today he did the same thing on Turner's first long TD run.
He dogs it worse than anyone I've ever seen outside of Oakland.
Our secondary is pathetic.
PATHETIC.
Proof is in the pudding, and EVERY SINGLE ONE of his secondary players are soft, fundamentally BAD football players.
I'd just as soon listen to a busboy tell me about rocket science then listen to Jerry Grey.
~Bang
StillUnknown
November-8th-2009, 08:35 PM
I'd like to file a complaint against Hall for being so terrible.
not to mention ridiculously overpaid
Boss_Hogg
November-8th-2009, 08:41 PM
whoops, already posted in this thread/
just another free agent bust brought to you by Snyderrato!
Vicious
November-8th-2009, 09:03 PM
Dan Snyder abusing our cap space for the splash.
Veretax
November-8th-2009, 09:14 PM
He didn't start the melee but he had no business staying over there. Even Landry was leaving their sidelines as Hall started running his mouth. Exactly who was Hall trying to defending? Notice how Hall is all on his own but he claims he was trying stick up for his teammates. Landry didn't care at all until he turned around and notice Hall getting into it with the Falcons.
I do agree that Mike Smith should be punished as well. He had no business getting involved and it does appear that he said something that pissed Hall off.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TDee021Vp5w
Hall is right about this one people, Smith and the other coach were instigating this incident.
I agree Some crap did happen if you look at that you tube clip the first time through you see that hall looked like he had his hand out and got cheap shotted or something, he was already on that side of the field. Secondly, it's that other coach for atlanta that had a hold of hall under his pads that was at fault, hall was trying to get away, and it looks to me that maybe Mike Smith was trying to pull hall away from the guy, and when he let go Hall thought Smith was trying to do something and pushed him away. That's when peale corals him, but if you watch the falcons surrounded Hall so he couldn't really go anywhere either. It really did look a bit like that awful thing that happened in Chicago where that gang killed that kit on his way to school (not exactly the same mind you, but man that's what it reminded me of)
I expect fines to go around, and hall will get one too, and anyone with a brain can tell you Smith was cursing on the side line.
SirClintonPortis
November-8th-2009, 09:19 PM
Let him file, folks. It sure as hell looked like the Falcons dudes were trying to gang up on him.
Veretax
November-8th-2009, 09:20 PM
NFL network has multiple views and it appears Smith does throw an elbow to Hall's head.
http://www.nfl.com/news/story?id=09000d5d814060fe&template=with-video-with-comments&confirm=true
OOO see that is better footage cause it shows Mike smith coming directly after Hall after he throws his headset off. in the one on You tube that came directly from Fox it looked like hall and one falcon pushed or something I couldn't tell who because he's slightly out of frame when it happens, but yeah watc that nfl.com one its way better and shows the continuing action. Hall and smith should both get fined I imagine.
And those Faulting Zorn, seriously, what's he going to do? If he loses his cool and joins the fracas that turns into a brawl with most of our team ejected, and then Zorn gives Snyder cause to fire him. That's not being clueless, that's him knowing he's got a pink slip and severance package coming if he just plays his cards right :/
I'm proud that our team came out with fire, because they could have if they wanted too gone out with the intent to hurt the falcons rather than try to play back into the game.
Destino
November-8th-2009, 09:33 PM
I thought Hall was out of line when I saw it during the game but after watching the replays it's pretty obvious the assistant coach does indeed run over and grab Hall followed by the head coach running over and getting in his face as well. There may have been an elbow thrown in there as well.
Coaches should be fined, they shouldn't ever behave that way.
uncleelroy89
November-8th-2009, 09:47 PM
Sorry I have too agree with Hall he has every right to go to the comish about it but after the fines are handed down that will be the end of it
terryb101
November-8th-2009, 09:54 PM
Wow this board is so funny. When Hall and or Landry f*** up yall are all over them, calling them busts ect.......... But when they make a play its "I knew it, they are so great ect......." I know they need to learn to tackle better, but they are still solid PERIOD.
solid what? they cant cover and they cant tackle. so i guess they must be doing something good on the sideline. maybe during practice, i dont get it "solid"
die.hard.skins.fan
November-8th-2009, 09:56 PM
I was incensed watching this live!!! I'm glad DeAngelo is going to do something about it. Sure DeAngelo may have said some things on the sideline, I'm not debating that, but talk is one thing... physical contact is another! And all of the contact was initiated by the falcons...mostly their coaches. And then as soon as Haynesworth gives a little shove to a falcons player THEN the refs throw the flag. It was unbelievable. I mean you have a player like Hall being grabbed by multiple falcons and there are no flags thrown but as soon as Haynesworth gives a little push to get people to back off they throw a 15yd. penalty at him. That's rediculous!! I hope Mike Smith and the strength&cond. coach are both suspended.
Be strong DeAngelo! I'm rooting for ya!!
GoSkins561
November-9th-2009, 06:58 AM
solid what? they cant cover and they cant tackle. so i guess they must be doing something good on the sideline. maybe during practice, i dont get it "solid"
They can definately cover, tackling is questionable. Outside of Philthy going deep, they are not allowing recievers to get open and we don't get pass interference penalties.
Flipsyde
November-9th-2009, 07:21 AM
Mike Smith knows he did wrong. He caught amnesia after the game, saying crap about he didn't know who was in there from the 'Skins or the Falcons.
I have to agree with a previous poster, the coach should be held to a HIGHER standard than the players. He should have been all over his guys to get off DHall, not helping to fuel the fire.
JoeGibbs3.0
November-9th-2009, 07:23 AM
Hall is more angry that he got cursed out by some coach rather then getting run over by QBs.
terryb101
November-9th-2009, 08:34 AM
Hall is more angry that he got cursed out by some coach rather then getting run over by QBs.
he said the coach knows where to find him if he wants to kick his butt.. i hope hall fights better than he tackles,or that old mans gonna whoop his butt
terryb101
November-9th-2009, 08:38 AM
They can definately cover, tackling is questionable. Outside of Philthy going deep, they are not allowing recievers to get open and we don't get pass interference penalties.
questionable? you mean pathetic, and they cant cover, teams dont need to go deep,they run thru the line or they throw short and watch the db's jump out of the way of the rcv lest they make a tackle..
HailSkinz1
November-9th-2009, 11:03 AM
I'm not a Hall fan, was against signing him, but he's right on this one seems to me. I hope the NFL fines that dumbass coach of the Falcons as well as the strength coach.
And while I wasn't happy Haynesworth drew a flag that cost us 15 yards, I was glad to see him get in there and throw his weight around. It was a little one sided until Big Al showed up.
Hail,
H
kramdizzle
November-9th-2009, 11:06 AM
wow, just wow. I guess when you can't cover, complain. Hey it starts with a "C" right?
Taylor 36
November-9th-2009, 12:30 PM
I am not a Hall fan, but that was ridicules. He should go to the commish about, unless the league actually does something about it on their own. I know, fat chance.
Seriously, if this had been almost any other player, this board would be livid. The fact is, D. Hall or not, that should never happen to a player of any team. The Falcons should be fined.
Mad Mike
November-9th-2009, 12:45 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_guAW0CCmsQ&feature=related
1:15 exactly, you can clearly see the Falcons HC throw a punch at Hall.
And BTW, Hall was there before Landry walked away. It looks like someone had a hold of him by that point and things just got worse from there.
#1HIT
November-9th-2009, 01:02 PM
I am so sick of this man. By the way, did anyone catch it during the game when Jerry Gray was trying to tell him something and Hall acted like he really didn't care what Gray had to say? What a moron.
Dude shut the hell up Coach Gray was just talking to him and Deangelo was listening like a normal person i dont know where your getting the whole (he seemed like didnt care) thing from. plus im tired of all these people bashing Deangelo he cant tackle so what but he shore damn knows how to cover. the man has only given up one TD all year. when you got superstars like Haynsworth,Orakpo, and Fletcher it should be a shame to blame a TD on your smallest corner cause he missed the tackle.
Phixius
November-9th-2009, 01:08 PM
Dude shut the hell up Coach Gray was just talking to him and Deangelo was listening like a normal person i dont know where your getting the whole (he seemed like didnt care) thing from. plus im tired of all these people bashing Deangelo he cant tackle so what but he shore damn knows how to cover. the man has only given up one TD all year. when you got superstars like Haynsworth,Orakpo, and Fletcher it should be a shame to blame a TD on your smallest corner cause he missed the tackle.What Redskins team have you been watching? DeAngelo gotten beat by many receivers. Just because he's only given up one TD doesn't take away the fact that he's constantly getting burned by receivers every other play.
#1HIT
November-9th-2009, 01:09 PM
hes constantly getting beat by receivers?? lol do you even know what number Hall wears? yours just making yourslef look bad stop writing please
#1HIT
November-9th-2009, 01:11 PM
what games have you been watching? our defense been rock solid except the last two weeks and i beg you to find me a clip with deangelo getting constantly beat..please do that for me and then ask me which games im watching.
rk3025
November-9th-2009, 01:15 PM
Falcons were kicking our ass all day and you blame the Coach FOR WANTING TO JOIN IN THE FUN.
Just another big time signing that went BUST. AGAIN!
Thanks Vinny! Thanks Danny!
CrimsonTribe
November-9th-2009, 01:28 PM
yea good point the lorenzo alexander roughing the passer call was a ****ing joke...unbelievable
I can't take this over-protection of the quarterback garbage anymore. I could tell from the upper deck that Lorenzo Alexander's hit was clean. Most of the Falcons fans around me agreed. How are you supposed to tackle the quarterback without falling on him?
stickyshooZ
November-9th-2009, 02:17 PM
I posted the link to the video, wouldn't have posted it if I didn't watch it.
Again, if it were a WR or RB 50/50 it gets called, QB 100% of the time. Personally, anytime you get a chance to take a shot at the QB you take it. You want to run out of the pocket you're fair game. Honestly I hope he would have gotten KTFO!
I agree, that's how it should be. However, the NFL doesn't agree, and their say is the final say. Players know better.
By the way, the fatties landing on McNabb in the endzone, the one that broke his rib, was waaaaaayyyyyyy more malicious than this hit on Ryan but there was no flag. Just saying.
Also correct.
Ron_Man
November-9th-2009, 02:47 PM
Thank you! It's just too bad that "fight" in them only lasted until the end of the 3rd quarter..
I actually thought it was a great hit and I loved the fight after it. The Skins had nothing at this point in the game and it showed they were ready to get there and fight. Hall jumping in and taking on 15 falcons, and Hayneswort getting his back. At some point the Skins needed to start playing physical and I thought this lit a fire, even if they broke off a nice run shortly after. I wish they acted like this on a regular basis....on the field.
nebster21
November-9th-2009, 03:26 PM
already metioned in this thread
http://extremeskins.com/showthread.php?t=307467
F.Y.I -some posters may take a shot at you given your username and he was the catalyst for the incident...just sayin';)
You mean this message board. Just correcting you. If he starts the thread is could not be mentioned already in the thread.
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