Wiz sign 5'5 Earl Boykins... Blatche advises to play him at Center

[Burgold]

The Redskins and Wizards share a lot in common this year. One is 2-6 and the other is 2-7. Both have highly paid superstars and a rash of injuries. In order to address their injuries, the Wizards have signed Earl Boykin. The 5'5 player is known for his hustle and creativity. Washington Redskins coordinator Blatche says that he knows exactly what to do with such a dynamic player.

"Listen. I know about these things. You never do what they expect. You don't play a Laron Landry at strong safety. You don't put Brian Orakpo's hand in the dirt. You get a player like Boykin, you put him in the middle. I see Earl exclusively at Center for the Wizard. Anyways, that's how I'd do it."

[Sndman8369]

wow poor effort at trying to be funny

[Burgold]

Eh, it amused me. There's truth in it too.

[elkabong82]

lame

our D is one of the best in the league. seems many who complain that Blache isn't using the players to their strengths aren't considering the weaknesses created by moving these guys elsewhere.

[Chicken Fried]

wow poor effort at trying to be funny
+1 It really isn't funny that you're screwing up Orakpo's development. Fire this fool. He is nothing compared to Gregg Williams and I have my doubts that he is using other players effectively as well.

[Chicken Fried]

lame

our D is one of the best in the league. seems many who complain that Blache isn't using the players to their strengths aren't considering the weaknesses created by moving these guys elsewhere.
Do you think Orakpo is a STRENGTH at linebacker. I don't think anybody does. He is a liability. Blades could do almost as well, and the benefit of having Orakpo at DE overshadows and decline at play at LB by Blades.

[Garfield]

I think he also said the Boykins is better than Lebron James.

At any rate, Laron just plain sucks irregardless of his position. The strong safety vs free safety arguement is silly considering he's not getting beat in coverage, he's taking crappy pursuit angles and not tackling.

I also think that Vinny and Dan had some say in moving Orakpo to linebacker.

[elkabong82]

Do you think Orakpo is a STRENGTH at linebacker. I don't think anybody does. He is a liability. Blades could do almost as well, and the benefit of having Orakpo at DE overshadows and decline at play at LB by Blades.

Where did I say he was? I too have said on here Orakpo should be lined up at DE permanently. However, what I said, and it was clear as day too, is that many aren't considering the weaknesses created by moving these guys. That doesn;t mean it's a bad idea to move them, it simply means many don;t consider the consequences of doing so, for if they did they might not be so inclined to label Blache as an idiot, instead they might actually understand the real reason why the players are where they are, instead of aborting any logic and simply saying a qualified coach is a moron.

Landry may be a more natural SS, but who would then play FS? The role we have for a FS requires speed. Maybe Horton could transition over, but Landry was getting better last season and difficult to teach someone that FS role midseason, and that ship has sailed anyways now that Horton is on IR.

If we move Orakpo to DE, who does he replace? Daniels? Well Orakpo is a RDE, Jarmon is who are grooming at LDE. So that means he'd replace Carter, despite Carter having a great year so far. Then you have a hole at OLB. So you plug in Blades, out of his natural position, and he has the same coverage problems if not worse since he isn't as fast as Orakpo. So you plug in Chris Wilson, who has speed to cover, but isn't as sure of a tackler and is more of a pass rusher. Then his problems persist.

It's very difficult to solidfy every single position for any unit. So you have to use strengths in ways which mask weaknesses. That is what I see being done. In the offseason hopefully Landry is moved over to SS and Horton is groomed at FS, and hopefully that works out. Blades will be a good replacement for Fletcher, but with the holes in the offense I wouldn't be surprised to see Orakpo spend more time as a hybrid DE/LBer next season too, especially so long as Carter is flourishing at RDE.

[RenegadeTK]

well, i thought it was funny.

[Gibbs Hog Heaven]

lame

our D is one of the best in the league.....

I gota' take issue with that man.

Some VERY misleading rankings aside, the last few games have shown the very last thing this unit is, is one of the best in the league. They SHOULD be, given the financial investment to an already good D this past off-season, but it's not worked out like that.

We have a very good front seven, but beyond that a pitiful secondary that can't tackle and do the fundamentals for ****. Come to that the tackling from back to front in the main since the mid-point of last season on has been pretty darn woeful outside a few notable exceptions.

The past few games the big plays we've given up have become way more than just being a concern, and have shown that this group isn't as high as everyone rates it.

And we won't even get into the takeaway ratio being a league low tying 8 through 8 games, or bring up the last time they actually scored from a turnover.

This is a good, solid, bend but don't break D, that's sadly starting to slip in even that of late.

It's FAR from a top end unit.

Fuuny OP btw. Painfully funny as it's not that far removed from reality.

Hail.

*Edit* I don't solely blame the players btw. (Though the way a whole bunch on both sides of the ball laid it down and didn't put forth the effort Sunday was nothing short of a disgrace and TOTALLY inexcusable, whatever the current situation.).

When basic fundamental techniques in tackling, and taking the correct angle to get the man, are continualy overlooked, what hope do the players have? No wonder Blache gives opposing receivers a big cushion every play.

He's compensating for what he and his staff can't teach.

[cphil006]

It was Vinny Cerrato that brought in Jason Taylor to play the wrong DE position. Carter would've been out of place if he moved to the otherside, too. Even Blache said this.

It was Vinny who drafted Orakpo to play LB...

It was Vinny, man.

[boysetsfire]

lame

our D is one of the best in the league.

The hell it is. If it were they wouldn't have allowed Turner to run all over them and could have kept them in the game last week. The defense is ok but it's full of players who lack simple fundamentals (catching, tackling) being the two that standout the most. Great defenses cause turnovers and capitalize on them. They shutdown the other team. It also doesn't help that the coach of the defense is clueless.

[WhoRUSupposed2Be]

Was this a cheap shot Burgold? ;)

[DieselPwr44]

It's BLACHE.

Hell, I thought the Wizards' Blatche had been hired to run the D.

:doh:

[Redskins Anonymous]

To the guy who claims our D is one of the best in the league,

I have NEVER seen a dominant D be so soft on 3rd and 5ish. It is almost funny; oh shocking, they beat us underneath - again.

Ya, the 85 Bears were soft on third down, too...give me a break. our D is only in games because of our D-line. Our secondary is a joke.

[Capt Rich Fla]

That's our Blache. He's determined to get that round peg in that square hole.:mad:

[perrynoid]

When Blatche is on the sidelines, he always looks like he just rolled out of an orgy...all disheveled.

and speaking of unfunny, check out the Dan & Vinny show below.

[Burgold]

It's BLACHE.

Hell, I thought the Wizards' Blatche had been hired to run the D.

:doh:

Wondered if someone would catch that :cheers:

I work on many levels simultaneously. Mwhahahaha

[NewCliche21]

lame

our D is one of the best in the league. seems many who complain that Blache isn't using the players to their strengths aren't considering the weaknesses created by moving these guys elsewhere.

Hahahah, good one.

You do realize that we've played the easiest schedule in NFL history, right?

We give up third downs like it's charity work, and we tackle like we're playing flag football. Who gave the Lions two 90+ drives? Oh, that was our outstanding defense.

Our defense blows. Look beyond the numbers.

[Drastik]

Couple points here:

Our D is not one of the best in the league. Our rushing defense is TERRIBLE, and we are one of the worst in the league at creating turnovers or forcing game changing plays. I can't remember the last time we have scored a defensive touchdown. Denver has scored like 7-8 defensive/special teams TD's this year, and people praise Kyle Orton for the teams success, when in reality, Orton has not been playing very great.

Also, some of you need to understand the concepts and schemes of football. Right now this team can NOT afford to have both Orakpo and Andre Carter playing DE. If you've watched either of the past 2 games we've played in, you will see that outside containment from our DE's is a PROBLEM. Carter is not very good at containing, he usually runs straight up the field or gets sealed by a TE. Having BOTH Orakpo and Carter at the DE position is just inviting teams to run outside all day with huge success.

[USS Redskins]

Eh, it amused me. There's truth in it too.

I spit out my soda laughing at this.... nice one! And unfortunatley, its the truth...

[tshile]

lame

our D is one of the best in the league. seems many who complain that Blache isn't using the players to their strengths aren't considering the weaknesses created by moving these guys elsewhere.

our defense is ranked in the top 10 yes.

but we've played:

NYG, Phil, KC, Det, STL, TB, CAR, ATL

all but 3 of those teams are dreadful, especially on offense. And NYG didn't have a great offensive game when they played us.

This defense is going to get destroyed the second half of the season. I'm somewhat shocked at the number of people who keep going 'but our defense is top 5'. You have to consider who they play against...

[Boss_Hogg]

Another poster on this board (Bang) summed up Blache perfectly last week:

The man just does not seam to get it, he mashes square pegs in round holes with the defensive personnel.

[Boss_Hogg]

When Blatche is on the sidelines, he always looks like he just rolled out of an orgy...all disheveled.

and speaking of unfunny, check out the Dan & Vinny show below.

HOLY CRAP dude, I'm rolling after watching the Dan and Vinny Show!:hysterical:

[Bang]

Burglod will be appearing all week,, don't forget your waitresses and bartenders.

Good one BG!

~Bang

[SkinsNumberOne]

It was Vinny Cerrato that brought in Jason Taylor to play the wrong DE position. Carter would've been out of place if he moved to the otherside, too. Even Blache said this.

It was Vinny who drafted Orakpo to play LB...

It was Vinny, man.

I also think this is the case.

The people who say BPA is completely separate from need are flat out wrong. By that logic you could go into a draft and end up with all QBs drafted over the first couple of rounds of picks - which won't happen, because need plays SOME kind of role in any BPA analysis as well.

Need factored into this as well, and I am pretty sure Orakpo was looked at as someone who could fill a "role" that could be either LB or DE. That is how I see it as well. Another illustration of the idiocy of our organization.

[SKOALSKIN]

I think he also said the Boykins is better than Lebron James.

At any rate, Laron just plain sucks irregardless of his position. The strong safety vs free safety arguement is silly considering he's not getting beat in coverage, he's taking crappy pursuit angles and not tackling.

I also think that Vinny and Dan had some say in moving Orakpo to linebacker.

Way to work the word (or non word) "irregardless" into the post. But you are right Laron sucks. Laron is to Ed reed what Deshawn Stevenson is to Lebron.

[StillUnknown]

lame

our D is one of the best in the league. seems many who complain that Blache isn't using the players to their strengths aren't considering the weaknesses created by moving these guys elsewhere.

our defense cannot be mentioned amongst the best in the league. we feasted on poor offenses to start the year. Philly & ATL shredded our defense, not to mention our two most high profile DB's can't tackle to save their lives

[RaleighSkinsMann]

this thread isnt closed yet?

[Burgold]

I spit out my soda laughing at this.... nice one! And unfortunatley, its the truth...


Burglod will be appearing all week,, don't forget your waitresses and bartenders.

Good one BG!

~Bang



well, i thought it was funny.


this thread isnt closed yet?

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[Gibbs Hog Heaven]

Way to work the word (or non word) "irregardless" into the post. But you are right Laron sucks. Laron is to Ed reed what Deshawn Stevenson is to Lebron.

I hate to be pernickety, (NO S :silly:), but the Oxford English Dictionary lists it as an informal adjective/adverb of regardless. (A blend of irrespective and regardless.).

The Collins English doesn't to be fair, nor does Webster's I'm guessing, but you guys never spell English correctly anyway. :silly:.

But enough with class, back on topic .....

Hail.

[Forehead]

Burgold, I think you're losing your comedic timing in your old age...

[paintrain]

Sorry but it's a pet peeve..

Andray BLATCHE Journeyman NBA center, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andray_Blatche

Greg BLACHE Redskins coach for the past 6 YEARS!! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greg_Blache

Seriously guys, it's not that hard, is it? Really? I know what some of you are working with, but at least try.

[Burgold]

Sorry but it's a pet peeve..

Andray BLATCHE Journeyman NBA center, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andray_Blatche

Greg BLACHE Redskins coach for the past 6 YEARS!! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greg_Blache

Seriously guys, it's not that hard, is it? Really? I know what some of you are working with, but at least try.

Actually, I believe he's strictly a power forward this year. (and it was part of the gag... double meanings everywhere)

[elkabong82]

The hell it is. If it were they wouldn't have allowed Turner to run all over them and could have kept them in the game last week. The defense is ok but it's full of players who lack simple fundamentals (catching, tackling) being the two that standout the most. Great defenses cause turnovers and capitalize on them. They shutdown the other team. It also doesn't help that the coach of the defense is clueless.

Every defense has its down days. The D is still ranked high. And like I said in my other post, it would be much more beneficial to try and understand the actual reasons behind the players playing where they are, rather than being lazy and simply saying the D-Coord is "clueless." Just because the team is doing bad doesn't mean we are excused in being dishonest with ourselves and ripping the entire team apart.

[elkabong82]

Hahahah, good one.

You do realize that we've played the easiest schedule in NFL history, right?

We give up third downs like it's charity work, and we tackle like we're playing flag football. Who gave the Lions two 90+ drives? Oh, that was our outstanding defense.

Our defense blows. Look beyond the numbers.

Look beyond the numbers? That's all we really have to go on.

Our defense does not blow, they are one of the best in the league. The level of competition would hold more merit if we hadn't held the Eagles down.

The defense definitely had 3rd down issues early in the season. When people were screaming solely about the offense then, I was one of the people pointing out that the O was barely on the field because the D couldn't stop teams on 3rd down. Then Blache took blame and said he'd try to put his guys in better position, and the 3rd down D has improved since. The D had a big problem but fixed it. But hey, if you want to harp about a problem from early in the season that hasn't been nearly as big of an issue as it was then, that's your perogative, though it is incorrect.

Hahahahaha, good one? Really? You're usually better than that. No need to be so unnecessarily dismissive, especially when the stats are on my side.

Our defense doesn't blow, our dishonest fanbase does right now though, IMO. Leave the blame where it truly belongs, there is no need to shred everything to pieces, only the parts that deserve it. Instead of acting like simple-minded jerks and acting like Blache is some moron lucky to have an NFL job, why don't people try and understand WHY the moves are made, rather than just assuming that because they can't understand it that means the coach is stupid.

[paintrain]

Actually, I believe he's strictly a power forward this year. (and it was part of the gag... double meanings everywhere)

Understandable but there are SO many who cannot differentiate between BLATCHE and BLACHE.

[Fletch_Lives59]

http://www.threadbombing.com/data/media/2/chappelle_what.gif

[MaineSkin]

Tebow is a great athlete but is the Redick of football. I agree Greg Williams should be HC that runs the D and Shanahan should be VP of personel.

[REDALERT]

The Redskins and Wizards share a lot in common this year. One is 2-6 and the other is 2-7. Both have highly paid superstars and a rash of injuries. In order to address their injuries, the Wizards have signed Earl Boykin. The 5'5 player is known for his hustle and creativity. Washington Redskins coordinator Blatche says that he knows exactly what to do with such a dynamic player.

"Listen. I know about these things. You never do what they expect. You don't play a Laron Landry at strong safety. You don't put Brian Orakpo's hand in the dirt. You get a player like Boykin, you put him in the middle. I see Earl exclusively at Center for the Wizard. Anyways, that's how I'd do it."



LMAO..:D

Man that was funny as hell to me. But what we really need to do is take the point guard duties away from Gil seriously.

[NewCliche21]

Look beyond the numbers? That's all we really have to go on.

Our defense does not blow, they are one of the best in the league. The level of competition would hold more merit if we hadn't held the Eagles down.

The defense definitely had 3rd down issues early in the season. When people were screaming solely about the offense then, I was one of the people pointing out that the O was barely on the field because the D couldn't stop teams on 3rd down. Then Blache took blame and said he'd try to put his guys in better position, and the 3rd down D has improved since. The D had a big problem but fixed it. But hey, if you want to harp about a problem from early in the season that hasn't been nearly as big of an issue as it was then, that's your perogative, though it is incorrect.

Hahahahaha, good one? Really? You're usually better than that. No need to be so unnecessarily dismissive, especially when the stats are on my side.

Our defense doesn't blow, our dishonest fanbase does right now though, IMO. Leave the blame where it truly belongs, there is no need to shred everything to pieces, only the parts that deserve it. Instead of acting like simple-minded jerks and acting like Blache is some moron lucky to have an NFL job, why don't people try and understand WHY the moves are made, rather than just assuming that because they can't understand it that means the coach is stupid.

Man, just look at who we've played and look at our number of turnovers. We've played AWFUL offenses and have had one of the worst turnover performances in the league. Those are the stats that I'm looking at. We held the Eagles down? So did the Raiders, and to much less than we did. Are they a better defense? Nah, so your one-game strategy doesn't work.

We've played literally the easiest schedule in the league and gotten no turnovers. Our third down percentage is still awful. I don't know what stats you're looking at, man, and you know that I respect you.