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Mickalino
November-13th-2009, 02:30 PM
He's already starting to serve his sentence.
This made my day.

http://www.cnn.com/2009/CRIME/11/13/fort.hood.hasan/index.html

Alleged Fort Hood shooter paralyzed from waist down, lawyer says

Fort Hood, Texas (CNN) -- Maj. Nidal Malik Hasan, the accused Fort Hood gunman, is paralyzed from the waist down, his lawyer said Friday.

"It appears he won't be able to walk in the future," said Hasan's civilian attorney, retired Army Col. John Galligan.

Hasan also has severe pain in his hands :violin: , the attorney said.

Authorities say Hasan, a U.S. Army psychiatrist, opened fire at a military processing center at Fort Hood on November 5, killing 13 people. Two civilian officers engaged Hasan, wounding him. One officer was wounded.

Two heroes emerge in shooting Video

Army officials announced Thursday that Hasan is charged with 13 counts of premeditated murder, making him eligible for the death penalty.

Galligan said he spent an hour Thursday with Hasan at Brooke Army Medical Center in San Antonio, Texas, where he is being treated. A family member whom he did not identify was also present during the hourlong meeting.

As investigators explore what may have led to the shooting rampage, the U.S. State Department's top counterterrorism official said Thursday there appears to be no operational link between Hasan and any outside group, citing investigators who looked into Hasan's communications with a radical Islamic cleric.

Daniel Benjamin, the department's counterterrorism coordinator, told CNN's Christiane Amanpour that Hasan and Imam Anwar al-Awlaki had communicated through e-mails, but their content raised no red flags to investigators.

Watch Amanpour, Benjamin discuss the case Video

"I believe that the various investigating bureaus have said that they have seen these e-mail messages to a radical cleric, but that they were not a sufficient concern to open up an investigation, and there doesn't appear to be any linkage to any outside group in terms of the operation itself," Benjamin said in his first television interview since taking up his post.

Counterterrorism investigators monitoring al-Awlaki came across the e-mails with Hasan during their investigation last year.

In a separate development, President Obama ordered an immediate inventory and review of intelligence related to the shooting and Hasan, and whether information was properly shared between government agencies.

Those who knew Hasan before he was a major in the Army say he was long known for militant Islamist views.

Doctors who crossed paths with Hasan in medical programs paint a picture of a subpar student who wore his religious views on his sleeve.

Several doctors who knew Hasan spoke to CNN, but only on the condition of anonymity because of the ongoing investigation.

Hasan "was clearly espousing Islamist ideology" during his time as a medical student at the Uniformed Services University of the Health Sciences in Bethesda, Maryland, one of his former classmates said.

After the shooting, Hasan's family revealed little about him, saying in media interviews that Hasan was a "good American" and a lifelong Muslim who complained that he was harassed in the Army because of his religion.

His former classmates describe a much more militant man.

His presentations for school were often laced with extremist Muslim views, one source said.

"Is your allegiance to Sharia [Islamic] law or the United States?" students once challenged Hasan, the source said.

"Sharia law," the source says Hasan responded.

The incident was corroborated by another doctor who was present.

The source also recalled an instance in which Hasan was asked if the U.S. Constitution was a brilliant document, to which Hasan replied, "No, not particularly."

The former classmate told CNN that he voiced concerns about Hasan to supervisors at the school.

A second former medical school colleague of Hasan said that several people raised concerns about Hasan's overall competence.

Even though Hasan earned his medical degree and residency, some of his fellow students believed that he "didn't have the intellect" to be in the program and was not academically rigorous in his coursework.

Hasan "was not fit to be in the military, let alone in the mental health profession," this classmate told CNN. "No one in class would ever have referred a patient to him, or trusted him with anything."

The first classmate echoed this sentiment.

Hasan was "coddled, accommodated and pushed through that masters of public health despite substandard performance," the classmate said. He was "put in the fellowship program because they didn't know what to do with him."

The second classmate said he witnessed at least two of Hasan's PowerPoint discussions that included what he described as extremist views.

In these presentations, which were supposed to be about health, the source said that Hasan justified suicide bombings and spoke about the persecution of Muslims in the Middle East, in the United States and in the U.S. military.

Some in the crowd rolled their eyes or muttered under their breath, he said, and others were clearly uncomfortable.

Those in the audience, which included program supervisors, did not loudly object to Hasan's presentations, but did complain to their higher-ups afterward.

The supervisors expressed "appreciation, understanding and agreement" that the complaints would be discussed, but the source said it was unclear what action, if any, came.

Despite the controversy that his schoolwork created, classmates did not view Hasan as mentally unstable or psychotic, the source said.

Questions remain over how much Hasan's behavior and actions in school were reflected in his personnel files.

Col. Kimberly Kesling, deputy commander of clinical services for Darnell Medical Center at Fort Hood and Hasan's supervisor at the post, told reporters last week that Hasan was doing a good job in Texas.

"As a supervisor, I am aware of the job performance of people coming into our organization, that is part of our credentialing process," Kesling said. "The types of things that were reported to me via his evaluation report were things that concerned me, but did not raise red flags toward this [the shootings] in any way, shape or form."

"His evaluation reports said that he had some difficulties in his residency, fitting into his residency, and we worked very hard to integrate him into our practice and into our organization, and he adapted very well, was doing a really good job for us," she said.

Prompted by reports of former classmates, however, Army investigators would like to speak with people who have had contact with Hasan over the years and who may have information about his activities and behavior, said Maj. Gen Kevin Bergner, head of U.S. Army public affairs.

And Defense Secretary Robert Gates weighed in on the bits and pieces of information surfacing about Hasan.

"I deplore the leaks that have taken place," he said on a trip to Oshkosh, Wisconsin. People are talking about "what they know, which is one small piece of the puzzle."

"They don't know whether or not what they're leaking might jeopardize a potential criminal investigation and trial," he said.

Hasan came under investigation when his contacts with al-Awlaki were intercepted by terrorism investigators monitoring the cleric's communications, a federal law enforcement official told CNN.

An employee of the Defense Department's Criminal Investigative Services, assigned to the Joint Terrorism Task Force, ultimately decided to drop the investigation after reviewing the intercepted communications and Hasan's personnel files.

Predicto
November-13th-2009, 02:43 PM
Can't say that this upset me. Nope.

Mickalino
November-13th-2009, 02:48 PM
Can I be his physical therapist, or caretaker/chaeffeur ?

"Walk, *****, Walk" !!

Then push his wheelchair down a flight of stairs.

Botched
November-13th-2009, 02:54 PM
http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk271/BryanL857/Funny/nelson-haha.gif

SparkleMotion
November-13th-2009, 02:55 PM
Does anybody else find it strange that the blond female cop who supposedly saved the day wasn't even the one who really took the guy down?

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/11/12/us/12hood.html?scp=1&sq=ft.%20hood&st=cse

Seriously, don't we have enough heroes without the media and officials having to manufacture them for us?

No matter who shot him, I'm not going to shed any tears over his suffering.

JMS
November-13th-2009, 03:10 PM
Somehow I don't think this is the guys major concern right now.

Personally I think he must be crazy. The second worst place to go on a shooting rampage would be Texas. The fed might just turn him over to Texas justice because they'll try him and execute him years before the federal courts get around to it.

The worst place to shoot somebody is of coarse Virginia with our Rocket Docket. The Snipper shot folks in Alabama, Georgia, Maryland, DC and Virginia. All the other venues declined to prosecute and turned him over to Virginia because they knew Virginia's rocket docket would be the fastest most severe form of justice on the table.

Burgundy Burner
November-13th-2009, 03:14 PM
He's also paralyzed from the neck up.

ljs
November-13th-2009, 03:18 PM
Does anybody else find it strange that the blond female cop who supposedly saved the day wasn't even the one who really took the guy down?

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/11/12/us/12hood.html?scp=1&sq=ft.%20hood&st=cse

Seriously, don't we have enough heroes without the media and officials having to manufacture them for us?

No matter who shot him, I'm not going to shed any tears over his suffering.

Hasan, the Muslim Domestic Terrorist, was hit multiple times, and by two different people, iirc

grhqofb5
November-13th-2009, 03:32 PM
The worst place to shoot somebody is of coarse Virginia with our Rocket Docket. The Snipper shot folks in Alabama, Georgia, Maryland, DC and Virginia. All the other venues declined to prosecute and turned him over to Virginia because they knew Virginia's rocket docket would be the fastest most severe form of justice on the table.

Virginia was deferred to for those reasons. MD subsequently tried and convicted him for "insurance" purposes, which became a bit touchy in some circles.

twa
November-13th-2009, 03:32 PM
Hasan, the Muslim Domestic Terrorist, was hit multiple times, and by two different people, iirc


Indeed

Besides,getting taken down by a woman is quite insulting to the tools:evilg:

jpillian
November-13th-2009, 04:02 PM
Does anybody else find it strange that the blond female cop who supposedly saved the day wasn't even the one who really took the guy down?

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/11/12/us/12hood.html?scp=1&sq=ft.%20hood&st=cse

Seriously, don't we have enough heroes without the media and officials having to manufacture them for us?

No matter who shot him, I'm not going to shed any tears over his suffering.

Yeah, I found that odd as well. The account has steadily maintained that: 1) they don't know who shot Hasan; 2) both Munley and her partner arrived at the scene at about the same time and encounter Hasan; and 3) Munley is the hero because she shot Hasan.

1 and 3 are definitely at odds, and it will be interesting to see why the story was portrayed that way in the first place. Was it simply because Todd perhaps made a point originally that he didn't want to be identified? Was someone trying to increase Munley's stature by inflating the account (even though it was not necessary)? Or was it just a result of the chaos of the day, and the nature of an investigation that is not yet concluded?

And to be clear: regardless of who actually shot Hasan -- Munley is no doubt a hero: for running towards gunfire, selflessly putting herself in harms way, and taking bullets for her fellow countrymen. None of that is in doubt whatsoever. And that is heroism, regardless of what else happened.

Hunter44
November-13th-2009, 04:18 PM
At least he won't be able to commit sucide...this way the state gets to kill him!! :silly:

IRISHSKINSFAN
November-13th-2009, 04:19 PM
thats just to bad boo hoo

grhqofb5
November-13th-2009, 04:21 PM
At least he won't be able to commit sucide...this way the state gets to kill him!! :silly:

Maybe the death panels in Obama's new health plan will put him to sleep.:dunce:

twa
November-13th-2009, 04:26 PM
Maybe the death panels in Obama's new health plan will put him to sleep.:dunce:

Naah...that is the public plan,the prisoners get the govt plan:silly:

Mickalino
November-13th-2009, 04:29 PM
At least he won't be able to commit sucide...

To the contraire, he could roll his wheelchair in front of a Semi, when they transport him from the court to the prison.

RammsteinSkins
November-13th-2009, 04:30 PM
Wah wah wah. Boohoo.

Special K
November-13th-2009, 04:32 PM
That sucks that we are going to have to pay for his care now. Hopefully he is tried and permanently removed from our society in short order.

Ellis
November-13th-2009, 04:42 PM
That sucks that we are going to have to pay for his care now. Hopefully he is tried and permanently removed from our society in short order.
I'm ok with paying for it knowing that JUSTICE will be served in court.
This man will get the death penalty, no doubt.
Half of his body has already been executed.

Capt Rich Fla
November-14th-2009, 07:04 AM
Lotta good those 72 virgins are going to do.

I'd tell him we are going to keep him on lfe support forever so he doesn't get his virgins.:evilg:

I'm still waiting for the government to come on out say this was a terrorist attack on US soil. hmmm. Maybe they have and I just missed it. Who's fault is it? Haven't heard that jewel too much about it either.

Mickalino
November-14th-2009, 08:12 AM
Lotta good those 72 virgins are going to do.


I'd tell him we are going to keep him on lfe support forever so he doesn't get his virgins.:evilg:


Why not put him in a large jail cell, with 72 ugly, gay transvestites who plug his *** all day and night.

And say, this is your version of 72 Virgins, since you're a "Terrorist Fail"

10fttall
November-14th-2009, 09:00 AM
I say we should treat the pain he is suffering in his hands with the finest placebos money can buy!

And it really sucks he is paralyzed from the waist down! Why couldn't it have been the neck down, then it would have REALLY been worthwhile for him to spend years imprisoned not being able to do ****.

In Flames
November-14th-2009, 09:02 AM
I have a question. If he is paralyzed for life, will they still be able to execute him? I would think not, so don't we want this scum to regain use of his legs, and then zap his ass?

twa
November-14th-2009, 09:04 AM
I have a question. If he is paralyzed for life, will they still be able to execute him? I would think not, so don't we want this scum to regain use of his legs, and then zap his ass?

Why not?

Discriminating against the physically impaired is illegal:evilg:

AzSkinsFan63
November-14th-2009, 01:50 PM
Ahh man...first the poor guy snaps for no apparent reason and now this.

Capt Rich Fla
November-14th-2009, 03:13 PM
Ahh man...first the poor guy snaps for no apparent reason and now this.

:hysterical:Sarcasm, right?

MrSilverMaC
November-14th-2009, 03:35 PM
Being paralyzed from the waist down is gonna make it harder for him to run from his new boyfriends.

I don't mind paying his tab if he spends the rest of his life in prison like that.

Mickalino
November-14th-2009, 04:40 PM
Being paralyzed from the waist down is gonna make it harder for him to run from his new boyfriends.

Depends on whether they give him one of these :

http://www.visitingangelsmi.com/images/man_scooter.jpg

Or one of these :


http://www.viennamedical.com/images/wheelchair.jpg

mjah
November-14th-2009, 06:43 PM
What does Sharia law say about shooting unarmed noncombatants in the back?

I'd look it up myself, but I'd rather not have that in the cache of my web browser. ;)

Stophovr6
November-14th-2009, 06:47 PM
Depends on whether they give him one of these :



Or one of these :




They shouldn't give him either, let him pull himself around on the ground like the rat he is.

twa
November-14th-2009, 07:52 PM
What does Sharia law say about shooting unarmed noncombatants in the back?

I'd look it up myself, but I'd rather not have that in the cache of my web browser. ;)

Depends on the interpretation
The fundamentalists pretty much excuse any act and in fact expect to be rewarded.
The basic fact is there are NO noncombatants in their view

The Koran certainly forbids the killing of innocents,Unfortunately because non-Muslims have rejected Islam, none of them are innocent:silly:

http://www.jihadwatch.org/2006/12/british-muslim-leader-only-muslims-are-innocent.html

a better source
http://www.danielpipes.org/blog/2005/08/can-infidels-be-innocents

jrfriedm
November-14th-2009, 11:05 PM
Suffer you jackass, suffer.

mjah
November-14th-2009, 11:53 PM
The Koran certainly forbids the killing of innocents,Unfortunately because non-Muslims have rejected Islam, none of them are innocent:silly:
Well, then let's give this guy his 72 virgins and everyone will be happy.

skinfan13
November-15th-2009, 12:06 AM
let's invoke the old portions of the UCMJ, claim it's wartime, and have his CO take him out back behind the shed and put one into his spine.

G.A.C.O.L.B.
November-15th-2009, 12:32 AM
I have a question. If he is paralyzed for life, will they still be able to execute him? I would think not, so don't we want this scum to regain use of his legs, and then zap his ass?

I'm not wondering if we will execute him or not (we will) but I do wonder if a paralyzed man has ever been executed before. I can't think of one off the top of my head.

thedoc4454
November-15th-2009, 12:44 AM
Set an example for the loons in the arab world. Stuff his mouth with pork, duck tape it shut, and then hang him in his wheelchair.

This method worked splendidly for Black Jack Pershing when he was fighting Muslim terrorists in the Philippines before WWI. Catch twelve Muslim terrorist stuff the mouths of eleven of them then shoot them in the head. Let the twelfth guy go. End of problem.

G.A.C.O.L.B.
November-15th-2009, 12:54 AM
Set an example for the loons in the arab world. Stuff his mouth with pork, duck tape it shut, and then hang him in his wheelchair.

This method worked splendidly for Black Jack Pershing when he was fighting Muslim terrorists in the Philippines before WWI. Catch twelve Muslim terrorist stuff the mouths of eleven of them then shoot them in the head. Let the twelfth guy go. End of problem.

Yes. I'm sure that won't radicalize some of the other billion Muslims in the world. It's not like Osama has been calling for a Jihad under the idea that the US is waging war against Islam or anything.

Mickalino
November-15th-2009, 01:06 AM
I wonder if it's just temporary paralysis