Conan O'Brien & Jay Leno Saga (MET)

[Rdskns2000]

Well, the latest in NBC's late night saga is that the Leno show is canceled as of Feb. 12.


They want to give Leno a 1/2 hour show at 11:35pm, shifting the Tonight Show to start at 12:05am and Jimmy Fallon's show to 1:05am. They would cancel Carson Daily's show.


Conan gets a 50 million check if he has to leave the tonight show.



What should Conan tell NBC?

[Kilmer17]

Why should he quit and give up the chance to make 50 mill?

30 minutes doesnt seem like that big of a deal to me.

Im just pissed that Leno is off at 10.

[Buford]

I think Conan should stand firm.

Was his 12:30 should panned at 1st? I think it was. These things take time. To just make changes so quickly is dumb.

If I were Conan, I would make them let me go....keep the money.....and maybe try to pitch a show to an HBO or Showtime where he can do anything.

[Rdskns2000]

Conan was hired to do the Tonight Show at 11:35pm and if NBC refuses to honor that; then he should tell NBC they have violated their contract with him and tell them to give him their 50 million check and he's walking.


If NBC wants Leno, give Leno the 12:35pm slot and cancel Jimmy Fallon or better let Leno walk. Leno isn't going to be doing this much longer. Conan could be doing this for another 20 years or so.

[Rdskns2000]

Why should he quit and give up the chance to make 50 mill?

30 minutes doesnt seem like that big of a deal to me.

Im just pissed that Leno is off at 10.

From my understanding, he gets the 50 million if he's fired or doesn't get the Tonight Show at 11:35pm. Any changes to that, Conan would have to agree to.

[C26 Run]

tell NBC to %^& off. Alot of people forget that Leno struggled for like 2 years before he hit his stride.

:helmet:

[PokerPacker]

Tell them to **** off. After what they did to his and Andy's show, Andy Barker, P.I., they're asking for trouble

[Dan T.]

As I understand it, NBC's issue is that affiliates are complaining that Leno in the 10-11 pm time slot is not drawing enough of an audience as a lead-in to their local news. That's the main impetus for the change, more so that O'Brien's weak ratings.

[MattFancy]

He should go to Comedy Central. Stewart, Colbert, than Conan. That would be good TV.

[Chachie]

If Conan moves to FOX I'd love to see him annihilate Leno in the ratings. I have long wondered how Leno has any viewers at all but he astounds me with his success.

[sly]

I have long wondered how Leno has any viewers at all but he astounds me with his success.


He appeals to the broadest audience... i.e, watered down comedy and cookie cutter interviews.

[SkinsBry]

Conan should tell NBC to **** off if they want to move him for Leno. Leno is a waste of airtime.

[Kilmer17]

Leno was beating Letterman every night at 1130.

I dont know there is so much vitriol. Why the hate?

[Ellis]

The comedy of Conan is superior to Leno a million fold.

[mjah]

Why in the world would NBC cancel Carson Daly in favor of Jimmy Fallon?

I'm not a fan of either. But come on.

I can see canning both of them and giving Conan an hour. Leno gets his prime slot, Conan gets his full hour with a solid Leno lead-in, and America gets rid of those other two NBC jokers.

If memory serves, a lot of Leno viewers weren't lost to other programs in that time slot. They were lost to DVR, and I have to seriously wonder whether most of those lost eyeballs will even consider coming back for a 30 minute Leno show. They've probably discovered far better programs, now that they've been emancipated from Leno's dull, featureless McHumor.

[zoony]

Leno was beating Letterman every night at 1130.

I dont know there is so much vitriol. Why the hate?



Leno is the 'national brand' of comedians. No flavor, no edge, no spice. Offensive to nobody.

He is a Johnsonville Bratwurst. Once you've had a real Brat from the midwest you know the difference. Of course, lots of folks try a real Brat and whine because it's too spicy, or not bland enough. Lots of people are uncultured tasteless dolts, too. But that doesn't mean I have to lower my standards.


Leno sucks.

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[zoony]

Why in the world would NBC cancel Carson Daly in favor of Jimmy Fallon?

I'm not a fan of either. But come on.




I have to admit- Fallon is holding his own. I've caught his show a few times and it is good stuff.

And this is from someone who was very much outspoken in his dislike for the guy when they announced he was getting his own show

[ECU-ALUM]

Conan should say, "See ya! I'm on my way to FOX!"

Sad to see how badly Leno & NBC has screwed this up...and it's no wonder why Johnny Carson wanted Letterman to take over for him.

[Kilmer17]

Leno is the 'national brand' of comedians. No flavor, no edge, no spice. Offensive to nobody.

He is a Johnsonville Bratwurst. Once you've had a real Brat from the midwest you know the difference. Of course, lots of folks try a real Brat and whine because it's too spicy, or not bland enough. Lots of people are uncultured tasteless dolts, too. But that doesn't mean I have to lower my standards.


Leno sucks.

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You also dont have to watch, or eat brats for that matter.

His show isnt groundbreaking, but it is good mindless banter in the background as Im reading or chatting with my wife.

Id say anyone looking for TV for intellectual stimulation has lowered their standards already.

[zoony]

Id say anyone looking for TV for intellectual stimulation has lowered their standards already.



Yah I agree.

But we're talking about the funny. Which Leno has none.


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[Kilmer17]

Yah I agree.

But we're talking about the funny. Which Leno has none.


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Id say the same about Letterman, Conan, Fallon, Kimmel etc etc etc.

JUst me though I guess.

[Rumrunner6900]

He should tell NBC to **** off. NBC has really ****ed this situation up big time. If Leno's ratings are that bad, send his ass packing....don't give him yet another show that is later in the night and then move back Conan who is actually good.

If this is written in stone, then Conan could definitely take a good bit of NBC's late night audience elsewhere if he left.

[btfoom]

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What should Conan tell NBC?

"I'm sorry that I couldn't hold onto the big lead that Leno held over Letterman. I don't belong on the Tonight Show."

[Spartacus87]

Conan should say, "See ya! I'm on my way to FOX!"

Sad to see how badly Leno & NBC has screwed this up...and it's no wonder why Johnny Carson wanted Letterman to take over for him. This.

Leno's just a giant douchebag through all of this.

He agreed to hang it up and hand the show over to Conan, back in 2006 or so. When the time finally came, he complained to NBC about it, and they gave him this God awful 10 o'clock show.

Now that his new show is tanking, he wants out so he can get The Tonight Show slot back. Bumping the real Tonight Show, which he took over from Carson and handed down to Conan, out of its traditional time slot. Just for his own ego's sake. Real surprise that Carson didn't like the guy and didn't want him to take The Tonight Show.

If NBC had any balls whatsoever, they would tell Leno to go screw himself and just throw their support 100% behind Conan and Fallon and let the chips fall where they may after giving them full promotion and time to develop.


As I understand it, NBC's issue is that affiliates are complaining that Leno in the 10-11 pm time slot is not drawing enough of an audience as a lead-in to their local news. That's the main impetus for the change, more so that O'Brien's weak ratings. Leno's awful ratings are killing local 11 pm news affiliates, which is when local stations make most of their ad revenue for the day.

I read somewhere that for most major markets, the NBC 11 pm news ratings are down 40-50%.

That also gives Conan a pathetic lead-in audience, hurting their Tonight Show brand.

[Chachie]

Leno was beating Letterman every night at 1130.

I dont know there is so much vitriol. Why the hate?




I can't really say I "hate" Jay Leno. I just never thought he was funny. As for why he was beating Letterman- it was a mystery to me. I do have to say though that Dave was getting grumpy and mean-spirited as the years moved on. I stopped watching him shortly after he moved to CBS.

[Chachie]

Leno's awful ratings are killing local 11 pm news affiliates, which is when local stations make most of their ad revenue for the day.

I read somewhere that for most major markets, the NBC 11 pm news ratings are down 40-50%.

That also gives Conan a pathetic lead-in audience, hurting their Tonight Show brand.



So he screwed up 3 big elements for NBC by moving instead of just retiring. Oy vey.

[Spartacus87]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ib5lVD8GBr8

Comedian Patton Oswalt killing Jay Leno on all of this.

[NOLASKINSFAN]

Conan was hired to do the Tonight Show at 11:35pm and if NBC refuses to honor that; then he should tell NBC they have violated their contract with him and tell them to give him their 50 million check and he's walking.

Well, I haven't read his contract as you seem to have so my question is this: Was he hired to do the "Tonight show with Conan O'brian at 11:35" OR "The Tonight show with Conan O'brian" if it is the latter than NBC can put it on whatever time they want and he can deal with it or walk.



Leno is the 'national brand' of comedians. No flavor, no edge, no spice. Offensive to nobody.

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No network comedian is going to be offensive in a cable/internet sense. Does all commedy have to be of the 21 to get in the door variety? I'm not saying I like Jay but it he is good for what the show is.

[ixcuincle]

...**** off as he continues to joke about being moved to 12:05 AM

Seriously though the only good thing to come from this NBC drama are the jokes in the monologue. I turned Conan on for the first time in a while and he was cracking jokes about the move and Jay Leno, it was hilarious

[HighOnHendrix]

They want to give Leno a 1/2 hour show at 11:35pm, shifting the Tonight Show to start at 12:05am and Jimmy Fallon's show to 1:05am. They would cancel Carson Daily's show.



Please, God, let that last part happen!

[zoony]

No network comedian is going to be offensive in a cable/internet sense. Does all commedy have to be of the 21 to get in the door variety? I'm not saying I like Jay but it he is good for what the show is.


no, and you missed the point.

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[ixcuincle]

http://www.wwtdd.com/2010/01/conan-seems-upset-about-something/

[Boss_Hogg]

Why can't Leno just go away

['Skins_&_'Stons]

Leno, Fallon & Daly are ALL visual diarrhea. Conan is god.

If it were not for NBC's unbelievable Thursday night line up (Community, Parks & Rec, Office and 30 Rock), I would commit to a complete boycott of all things NBC.

[MattFancy]

http://mediadecoder.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/01/12/conan-obrien-says-he-wont-do-tonight-show-following-leno/?hp



People of Earth:

In the last few days, I’ve been getting a lot of sympathy calls, and I want to start by making it clear that no one should waste a second feeling sorry for me. For 17 years, I’ve been getting paid to do what I love most and, in a world with real problems, I’ve been absurdly lucky. That said, I’ve been suddenly put in a very public predicament and my bosses are demanding an immediate decision.

Six years ago, I signed a contract with NBC to take over The Tonight Show in June of 2009. Like a lot of us, I grew up watching Johnny Carson every night and the chance to one day sit in that chair has meant everything to me. I worked long and hard to get that opportunity, passed up far more lucrative offers, and since 2004 I have spent literally hundreds of hours thinking of ways to extend the franchise long into the future. It was my mistaken belief that, like my predecessor, I would have the benefit of some time and, just as important, some degree of ratings support from the prime-time schedule. Building a lasting audience at 11:30 is impossible without both.

But sadly, we were never given that chance. After only seven months, with my Tonight Show in its infancy, NBC has decided to react to their terrible difficulties in prime-time by making a change in their long-established late night schedule.

Last Thursday, NBC executives told me they intended to move the Tonight Show to 12:05 to accommodate the Jay Leno Show at 11:35. For 60 years the Tonight Show has aired immediately following the late local news. I sincerely believe that delaying the Tonight Show into the next day to accommodate another comedy program will seriously damage what I consider to be the greatest franchise in the history of broadcasting. The Tonight Show at 12:05 simply isn’t the Tonight Show. Also, if I accept this move I will be knocking the Late Night show, which I inherited from David Letterman and passed on to Jimmy Fallon, out of its long-held time slot. That would hurt the other NBC franchise that I love, and it would be unfair to Jimmy.

So it has come to this: I cannot express in words how much I enjoy hosting this program and what an enormous personal disappointment it is for me to consider losing it. My staff and I have worked unbelievably hard and we are very proud of our contribution to the legacy of The Tonight Show. But I cannot participate in what I honestly believe is its destruction. Some people will make the argument that with DVRs and the Internet a time slot doesn’t matter. But with the Tonight Show, I believe nothing could matter more.

There has been speculation about my going to another network but, to set the record straight, I currently have no other offer and honestly have no idea what happens next. My hope is that NBC and I can resolve this quickly so that my staff, crew, and I can do a show we can be proud of, for a company that values our work.

Have a great day and, for the record, I am truly sorry about my hair; it’s always been that way.

Yours,

Conan

[zoony]

Wow, good for Conan ^^

[MattFancy]

Wow, good for Conan ^^

I don't blame him. He'll go somewhere where he is wanted.

[PokerPacker]

Very nice response by Conan.

[ixcuincle]

He took the high road with Fallon but he should just kick that clown off the air and take back his NY show. Then we can see the bear and Joel Goddard again. Now that was a sidekick. The show was better with Joel Goddard and Max Weinberg. They barely crack on Max anymore, now it's just Andy and La Bamba. Lol

[PokerPacker]

I do miss the old gang from NY. I was upset to see he was moving to Cali to do the Tonight Show.

[Spartacus87]

He took the high road with Fallon but he should just kick that clown off the air and take back his NY show. Then we can see the bear and Joel Goddard again. Now that was a sidekick. The show was better with Joel Goddard and Max Weinberg. They barely crack on Max anymore, now it's just Andy and La Bamba. Lol I disagree.

Fallon started off terrible, but he's been growing more and more comfortable lately, and I think he'll continue to improve into a pretty good late night talk show host. Plus he has The Roots as his house band.

It's all about giving time for these guys to figure out their own comfort zone in inheriting these shows.

Conan just basically explained why Leno's a complete assclown for doing what he's doing. And why NBC, namely Jeff Zucker, the President and CEO of NBC, has no balls.

[mhd24]

Why does comedy have to be so bland? Leno is bland and boring. There was a reason why CHappelle's show was so fresh. It was bold, edgy, and hilarious. I'd rather be something in the comedy world than be a total sellout like Leno.

If NBC had any stones, they'd bring more edge to the tonight show.

[AsburySkinsFan]

What should Conan tell NBC?
Pay me mah monee.


Personally I like Leno more than Conan, I never got Conan's humor it just leaves me wanting.

[Spartacus87]

Why does comedy have to be so bland? Leno is bland and boring. There was a reason why CHappelle's show was so fresh. It was bold, edgy, and hilarious. I'd rather be something in the comedy world than be a total sellout like Leno.

If NBC had any stones, they'd bring more edge to the tonight show. Which is why a lot of comedians don't really respect Leno. Check out the Patton Oswalt radio interview I posted from youtube on the page before this.

Leno's standup from back in the day used to be a bit edgier and creative, but he basically sold himself out to ensure The Tonight Show gig and has maintained that bland persona throughout. He's not a comedian, he's just a TV host that works to appeal to everyone possible for higher ratings.

[Fight4RGIII]

Most older people prefer Leno and don't get Conan's crazy humor. Most young people love Conan and find Leno to be bland and boring. I guess NBC still wants to draw an older crowd which I think is a huge mistake as most of the people still awake duting the 1135 to 1235 time slot are 18-29 viewers.

[AsburySkinsFan]

as most of the people still awake duting the 1135 to 1235 time slot are 18-29 viewers.

Well considering Conan's current ratings, I might say that this is not necessarily the case.

[Chachie]

NBC-ya! :ciao:

[Blackest Eyes]

Awesome letter by Conan.

['Skins_&_'Stons]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LOQvsuJ5wIA

:hysterical::hysterical::hysterical:

[MattFancy]

"You can do anything in life, unless Jay Leno want to too"

[Fight4RGIII]

Tell me someone watched Leno with Kimmell on tonight...Kimmell got on Leno so bad

[GSF]

I hardly ever watch tv that late, but Fallon has 1 thing really going for him: The Roots!

[Gracelander]

Bring back Arsenio

[Jeff in D.C.]

Conan gets a 50 million check if he has to leave the tonight show.



What should Conan tell NBC?

:ciao:

[Jeff in D.C.]

The comedy of Conan is superior to Leno a million fold.

Sorry but Conan's show sucks. NBC should have never kicked Jay to the curb like they did. Conan would have gotten his chance at some point when Jay retired. The move was done stupidly and way too soon.

[ixcuincle]

Subtle sarcasm in Conan's show is hilarious

"Remember June 2009, Andy?"
"I can't remember that far back"

[Enter Apotheosis]

Subtle sarcasm in Conan's show is hilarious

"Remember June 2009, Andy?"
"I can't remember that far back"

I would probably classify that as overt sarcasm.


Sorry but Conan's show sucks. NBC should have never kicked Jay to the curb like they did. Conan would have gotten his chance at some point when Jay retired. The move was done stupidly and way too soon.

You seem to be heavily implying that anything Leno has done with that show has ever been any good. Conan at least has his moments.

[Blackest Eyes]

Sorry but Conan's show sucks. NBC should have never kicked Jay to the curb like they did. Conan would have gotten his chance at some point when Jay retired. The move was done stupidly and way too soon.

If Leno was doing so well with the Tonight Show, then shouldn't his 10 PM show be doing just as well?

[FanboyOf91]

Whoa, that's a lot of bitterness.

[ixcuincle]

If Leno was doing so well with the Tonight Show, then shouldn't his 10 PM show be doing just as well?

Well Leno was going up against "popular" dramas i.e. CSI and Gray's Anatomy and whatever crap they throw up against Leno's show.

Personally both of these late night shows are acceptable, I grew up watching Leno and the Tonight Show so I have more experience with that, but I also have seen Conan for about 4 or 5 years now, and he's pretty funny too. They're two different types of humor, Conan is more geared towards the young whippersnappers, but they're both pretty funny IMO. It's a shame this drama has to divide NBC apart, the likelihood is that one of these talk show hosts (probably Conan) will have to go.

As for Conan, I've been on record as criticizing his monologues as being pretty bad in the past (anyone who saw Late Night and the Tonight Shows before this week can see) but ever since this drama broke out Conan has been hilarious taking shots at NBC in his monologues. Today he mentioned he had several offers from some adult companies and offered several suggestions which were pretty funny

[Blackest Eyes]

Conan's monologues on the Tonight Show were never quite as good as they were when he was doing Late Night. His monologues as of late though have been awesome.

[sly]

Sorry but Conan's show sucks. NBC should have never kicked Jay to the curb like they did. Conan would have gotten his chance at some point when Jay retired. The move was done stupidly and way too soon.


Um... when Conan signed the contract 5 years ago, Leno was supposed to retire. It's wasn't Conan's fault Leno changed his mind... then the geniuses at NBC decided to put an even more watered down Leno show at 10 o'clock.

The whole situation is idiotic. Conan is my generations Johnny Carson... just look at the support he's getting from the online crowd. Every Tonight Show host has been given a couple years to make the show their own... it just takes awhile, but Conan wasn't even given a chance! Leno did is thing, but his time is over. NBC is making a HUGE mistake.

[terpfan]

Conan was fantastic tonight. Even Fallon's rendition of "Pants on the Ground" as Neil Young was pretty good, he went back to sucking once the monologue started though.

[ixcuincle]

The word on the street is that Conan will be brought out from NBC and be free to pursue his show on another network.


The web is starting to buzz that the end approaches - the website, FTVLive, which broke the "Jay Leno is canceled" story last week, now says next week MAY be Co's last week at NBC.

I would be surprised if he lasts out the rest of this week, given the zetzing he gave NBC last night.

http://www.newsday.com/entertainment/tv-zone-1.811968/conan-dead-talk-show-host-walking-1.1701694

[China]

Jimmy Kimmel Destroys Leno On The Jay Leno Show (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_FNmWFD4oWg&feature=player_embedded)

[zoony]

Jimmy Kimmel Destroys Leno On The Jay Leno Show (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_FNmWFD4oWg&feature=player_embedded)


:hysterical: Absolutely awesome.


That just goes to show how lame Jay is. He took every one of those shots directly on the chin. He had no idea what to do except go to the next question.

What a dork. I'll never watch the tonight show again with that idiot on it.

[MattFancy]

I was never a huge Conan fan, but I feel bad for him and hope he comes out on top because of all of this.

[Patrick86L]

:hysterical: Why did he agree to have Kimmel on? Total Ownage.

[Chachie]

Every Tonight Show host has been given a couple years to make the show their own... it just takes awhile, but Conan wasn't even given a chance! Leno did is thing, but his time is over. NBC is making a HUGE mistake.



Also- When Conan took over and Jay moved to 10pm, all the advertising was about Jay's new show. How many ads did any of you see about Conan on the Tonight Show? I saw zero. Ads for Jay's new show? Every 10 minutes with teasers and bumps wrapped around any other commercial. We were inundated with Jay but Conan got almost no promo support whatsoever.

I don't really watch any late night talk shows because quite frankly the format went stale long ago for me. I'm just posting what I noticed about the changes when they happened.

[Hooper]

:hysterical: Why did he agree to have Kimmel on? Total Ownage.

Because it's all part of his "nice guy" routine. He takes shots and doesn't shoot back -- just laughs it off like it's all in good fun and nobody is getting hurt. Meanwhile, behind the scenes he's diabolical as can be. That's the reason his peers despise him.

Also, he is a total hypocrite.

http://www.nytimes.com/1992/12/23/arts/jay-leno-criticizes-nbc-on-tonight-cliffhanger.html?pagewanted=1

[MisterPinstripe]

Jimmy Kimmel Destroys Leno On The Jay Leno Show (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_FNmWFD4oWg&feature=player_embedded)

That was epic... Obviously the other guys in the industry are fed up with this guy... I cant stand Leno...

[MattFancy]

Because it's all part of his "nice guy" routine. He takes shots and doesn't shoot back -- just laughs it off like it's all in good fun and nobody is getting hurt. Meanwhile, behind the scenes he's diabolical as can be. That's the reason his peers despise him.

Also, he is a total hypocrite.

http://www.nytimes.com/1992/12/23/arts/jay-leno-criticizes-nbc-on-tonight-cliffhanger.html?pagewanted=1

Wow! Leno is going to lose alot of fans over this.

[Spartacus87]

:hysterical: Absolutely awesome.

That just goes to show how lame Jay is. He took every one of those shots directly on the chin. He had no idea what to do except go to the next question.

What a dork. I'll never watch the tonight show again with that idiot on it. Hooper already covered it, but it's just Jay Leno's style to act that way. He's all about passive aggressiveness up front, until he can slam you behind your back.

http://nymag.com/daily/entertainment/2009/04/after_all_these_years_david_le.html


GQ: I heard that you wrote Dave a letter, after he had his open-heart surgery.
Leno: Mmm-hmm.
GQ: What was in the letter?
Leno: Oh, just how funny I thought he was and how I owed him a lot. How important he was to me and all that.
GQ: Did he respond?
Leno: Uh, no.
GQ: Really?
Leno: But that's okay. Where'd you hear that?
GQ: That's not okay.
Leno: Well, it's not okay, but fine. What do you do, you know? I don't know if he ever got it.
GQ: It's weirdly heartless.
Leno: I don't know if he ever got it. He might not ever have gotten it. A middling might've said, "I don't want to show this to Dave. It'll upset him," and thrown it away, so I don't know. Ever talk to Dave?
GQ: Ah, no.
Leno: Dave's a great guy.
GQ: Your relationship is a movie.
Leno: Well, it was a bad movie. That stupid Late Shift movie.
GQ: Do you think you two will ever come around?
Leno: I hope so!
If that's not the biggest load of BS, I don't know what is. Nice job there by Leno of painting Letterman as the bad guy. Real surprise Carson didn't like him, Letterman didn't like him, Conan doesn't like him, most comedians just put up with him to get exposure on his show, etc.

But it's cool, he's just a "regular guy" who talks cars with every day people.

[StillUnknown]

Jimmy Kimmel Destroys Leno On The Jay Leno Show (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_FNmWFD4oWg&feature=player_embedded)

:rotflmao:

[WVUforREDSKINS]

I know im in the minority, but I always liked The Tonight Show with Jay Leno. I understand he might not be the best person, but I always laughed at Jaywalking and Headlines.

That said, Jimmy Kimmel is my favorite late night host...by far. He is hilarious, and completely destroyed Leno in that clip. Especially in the last 15 seconds.

[MattFancy]

I know im in the minority, but I always liked The Tonight Show with Jay Leno. I understand he might not be the best person, but I always laughed at Jaywalking and Headlines.

That said, Jimmy Kimmel is my favorite late night host...by far. He is hilarious, and completely destroyed Leno in that clip. Especially in the last 15 seconds.

Those two things you mentioned though were funny because of the Headlines or the dumb people on the street. It wasn't like Jay was telling good jokes or anything.

[WVUforREDSKINS]

Those two things you mentioned though were funny because of the Headlines or the dumb people on the street. It wasn't like Jay was telling good jokes or anything.

No, his monologues usually suck. I enjoy seeing Jaywalking, headlines, and dealing with the public.

[PokerPacker]

I always found Jay's commentary after a headline or commentary on something in the news to be so mundane; something your average Joe is already thinking without having to hear him say it.

And his Schwarzenegger impression sucks. horribly.

[Skin'emAlive]

Jimmy Kimmel Destroys Leno On The Jay Leno Show (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_FNmWFD4oWg&feature=player_embedded)

http://www.411mania.com/siteimages/ronsimmons_29171.jpg Keepin' it real jimmy. Keepin' it real.

[Redd]

I use to like Leno but after all that's been happening lately it's hard to like the guy. He's really being a prick to Conan and the The Tonight Show imo.

[MikeSellers45]

I use to like Leno but after all that's been happening lately it's hard to like the guy. He's really being a prick to Conan and the The Tonight Show imo.


I really liked the Tonight Show with Jay Leno and was disappointed to see him leave last summer. I wasn't too sure about Conan because I had never really watched his other show. I have gotten to really like his Tonight Show, but I still don't think he is as great as a lot of people on here make him seem. NBC needs to give Conan time to build up an audience. Thats what I hate about things nowadays. Whether it is the nfl, nascar, tv or anything else, you have to win right away or you or out of luck. Some people are great right away, but others need time. Jay is really being unfair in this situation. He has had his turn to be the host, and he had agreed to give the show to Conan. Sure, you never what to leave something you love doing and I believe change sucks, but it is time for Jay to move on. His 10 o'clock show sucks and now it is time to leave. He could come back and maybe do some specials every once in a while, but he needs to let Conan have his chance. Jay is close to 60 years old, so what is going to do is show for maybe 5 years or something? You would think NBC would rather go with a younger guy with more of a future like Conan, but I guess they think Jimmy Fallon will be ready in a couple of years.

[Heisenberg]

I just read Conan is getting $30 million to walk away - and is free to go to whatever network he wants.


I wish my job was like that . . .

[StillUnknown]

I just read Conan is getting $30 million to walk away - and is free to go to whatever network he wants.


I wish my job was like that . . .

conan won in that scenario

[PokerPacker]

Just read that the creator of Sons of Anarchy offered Conan a role in his show if he wants it with an IRA story arch upcoming.

http://blog.zap2it.com/frominsidethebox/2010/01/conan-obrien-gets-a-job-offer-from-sons-of-anarchy.html

That seems right up Conan's ally. We've seen him play the badass in his bit Noches de Pasion: Consenior O'Brien :rotflmao:

[Enter Apotheosis]

conan won in that scenario

No kidding. :thud:

[ixcuincle]

http://denver.metromix.com/home/article/ap-source-deal-near/1712541/content


NBC is nearing a deal with "Tonight" host Conan O'Brien to leave the network, freeing Jay Leno to reclaim the late-night show he stewarded for 17 years.

A person familiar with the negotiations says top NBC Universal executives and representatives for O'Brien on Friday were close to settling details of his departure. The person, who did not have the authority to discuss the issue, spoke on condition of anonymity.

The person says Universal Studios president and COO Ron Meyer is among those involved in the talks.

The focus is on how much O'Brien, who has time left on his NBC contract, would be paid for leaving and what limits NBC may put on his future employment at another network.

From AP

Would be interesting if the release involved a non-compete clause so Conan couldn't jump ship to another network.

[HitStickTaylor21]

uff'em. Conan should tell them to fog off. NBC doesn't know what they're doing.

[WVUforREDSKINS]

Rumor is that Conan will go to Fox, who doesn't have a late night program. Would be interesting.

[ixcuincle]

I want you to honestly look at this show over the past week and tell me it's worth discontinuing for Jay Leno. Honestly. Who can say that?

PIMP

[Fight4RGIII]

200 Million Dollars? (Conan and Andy proceed to laugh hysterically) Oh man, great stuff.

[WVUforREDSKINS]

30 million to leave

http://www.tmrzoo.com/?p=7021

[IHOPSkins]

"as inpenetrable as the Skull of an NBC executive"...Conan from last night

Conan gets paid to make fun of the boss

The more fun he makes the higher the ratings

This stuff writes itself

[TheDoyler23]

30 million to leave

http://www.tmrzoo.com/?p=7021

That website should probably learn to spell Conan's name. That's pathetic.

[Hooper]

Only Jeff Zucker could mess things up so bad and not get fired.

And there's a good chance it could get worse.

Think about it. NBC eats probably 100 million to get rid of Conan -- 30 million for his payout, then 70 million in other costs (it cost 60 million dollars or so to move Conan from NY to LA, for example).

Then Conan goes to Fox. Stays in LA.

He is now on at eleven o'clock and has the full Fox promotional team behind him, which wipes the floor with NBC's promotional team. He gets the NFL treatment, the American Idol stars, etc... He also can compete with Leno for guests instead of deferring to him like he has since Leno has been on ten o'clock.

Meanwhile, Leno is back at 11:30, his industry rep (not that it was great before) is worse than ever, and he has to build his audience up again.

One can at least imagine a scenario where Conan -- with a half hour head start -- ends up giving Leno a run for his money ratings wise and Zucker looks dumber than ever.

[Skin'Em84]

Him and Leno should box over the time spot, profits from the show go to Haiti.

[sly]

Has this been posted yet?

Shows how classy Leno really is:
http://www.funnyordie.com/videos/6d1caacad1/jay-s-2004-announcement

[WVUforREDSKINS]

Has this been posted yet?

Shows how classy Leno really is:
http://www.funnyordie.com/videos/6d1caacad1/jay-s-2004-announcement

Damn he went back on everything he said.

[iMeast]

Has this been posted yet?

Shows how classy Leno really is:
http://www.funnyordie.com/videos/6d1caacad1/jay-s-2004-announcement

I want to punch Jay in the wiener even more now.

HTTR

[Spartacus87]

"You know, this show is like a dynasty, you hold it, and then you hand it off to the next person. And I don't want to see all the fighting, and who's better, and the nasty things back in forth in the press."

Classic.

[Spartacus87]

It doesn't specifically mention Leno or Conan, but it's amusing to see a wasted Julia Roberts and Tom Hanks making fun of NBC before the Golden Globes:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7x--FxB5UNA

[ixcuincle]

Monologue Update

"NBC has legally prohibited me from saying anything negative. So good night, ladies and gentlemen"

As usual Conan's monologues don't disappoint during this phase of drama

Conan seems to be compiling a list of all-stars for what appears to be his final week at NBC. Should be interesting.

[NOLASKINSFAN]

I think it's funny hearing Dave Letterman and Jimmy Kimmel talk Jay down, as if they didn't have true interest in "CoCo" at 11:30.

[Spartacus87]

I think it's funny hearing Dave Letterman and Jimmy Kimmel talk Jay down, as if they didn't have true interest in "CoCo" at 11:30. Well Letterman's interest is two-fold.

Obviously, he loves seeing Leno get hammered for the backstabbing ways that originally landed him The Tonight Show over Dave. Seeing Leno and NBC screw this up is exactly what Letterman's been waiting for this whole time. On top of that, Conan took over Late Night from Letterman, and Letterman's always liked Conan and his sense of humor.

Kimmel doesn't really compete with either The Tonight Show or The Late Show since his show is later in the night, but I think he just thinks Leno's a douchebag and he's typically not afraid to make fun of people to their faces, as he did to Jay when he did that 10 at 10 bit on Leno's show.

[fullnelson9999]

I just cant understand why in earth NBC thinks Leno is funny.

[NOLASKINSFAN]

I just cant understand why in earth NBC thinks Leno is funny.

Well, he killed in rattings for about a decade.

[NOLASKINSFAN]

Well Letterman's interest is two-fold.

Obviously, he loves seeing Leno get hammered for the backstabbing ways that originally landed him The Tonight Show over Dave. Seeing Leno and NBC screw this up is exactly what Letterman's been waiting for this whole time. On top of that, Conan took over Late Night from Letterman, and Letterman's always liked Conan and his sense of humor.


So the fact that he is destroying Conan in the rattings but couldn't touch Leno has nothing to do with it? I agree he loves to see NBC go through drama.. but he isn't supporting his buddy Conan, he is looking out for himself.

[Kosher Ham]

I say good riddens Conan. Enjoy your new gig at FOX.

[Spartacus87]

So the fact that he is destroying Conan in the rattings but couldn't touch Leno has nothing to do with it? I agree he loves to see NBC go through drama.. but he isn't supporting his buddy Conan, he is looking out for himself. Well the ratings thing is more complicated than just saying that Conan is bombing there because he's not any good, so it just works in Leno's and Letterman's favor now.

NBC never fully supported Conan in promotion and advertising for taking over The Tonight Show. As soon as the deal was struck for Leno to take over at 10 PM with his show, all the ads were about Leno sticking around and just moving up a slot. The Jay Leno Show became NBC's bread and butter for their late night talk show marketing.

But Leno bombed, and as such Conan had zero lead-in audience to build off of. Leno's ratings have been so bad, major NBC news affiliates across the country have experienced ratings drops of 40 to 50 percent for their 11 PM broadcasts. That's pathetic. The Boston NBC affiliate said they weren't going to carry Leno's show, but NBC threatened to take away their licensing if they did that.

When Leno had The Tonight Show, he had shows like ER, Law & Order, and NBC's prior backing of 10 PM shows that helped carry them as the #1 network for so many years.

Conan's inherited crap for a lead-in, and the network's given him crap for a support system in promoting his show.

On top of that, let's all remember, Leno wasn't doing well in his ratings when he first started The Tonight Show either. In fact, there was talk about replacing him for awhile, but they held out and gave him a longer chance, which is all he needed until he scored that Hugh Grant interview.

I think Conan could have done more to help transition his act to the 11:30 slot (I don't think he should have brought Andy Richter in, at least to be as heavily involved as he is) to appeal to the more mainstream older demographic, but the bottom line is, NBC left him out to dry and treated The Tonight Show franchise as 2nd rate to Leno's show.

And I think a lot of people are criticizing this because it's the culmination of NBC just being completely inept, and once again making a stupid decision without any real long term view on it.

They elevated Jeff Zucker, a self important douchebag from Harvard (who actually had Conan arrested while in school with him once), to run their programming back around 2003/2004, and since then their ratings have plummeted to 4th place among the major networks. Zucker's ideas of saving NBC were to make Friends 40 minutes long instead of 30 minutes, or create shows like Joey, or Father of the Pride. Lately, NBC's been banking on cheesy reality shows, like ripping off the American Idol success train with America's Got Talent, or the Biggest Loser. Zucker's like the Vinny Cerrato of the television industry, and this Leno/Conan thing is parallel to Vinny counting on Mike Williams and Heyer for the Redskins o-line.

[ixcuincle]

Famed comic Jim Norton is on radio now going off.

NBC is the real villain here. Not Leno. Not Conan. The incompetent management at NBC is responsible for this.

Will upload audio later

[DeanCollins]

conan won in that scenario

Not really, he was told, in no uncertain terms, the Jay Leno > Conan and that they weren't sorry to see him go. I share their sentiments, don't let the door hit you.

[Elessar78]

Not really, he was told, in no uncertain terms, the Jay Leno > Conan and that they weren't sorry to see him go. I share their sentiments, don't let the door hit you.

Gotta remember that more people in this country go to see movies like Paul Blart: Mall Cop than higher end Indie films. It doesn't mean Jay's funnier, it's just that more people can connect with his simplistic, predictable punchlines.

[Mufumonk]

Conan Pimps Himself On Cragslist Casual Encounters (pic) (http://digg.com/television/Conan_Pimps_Himself_On_Cragslist_Casual_Encounters _pic)

[PokerPacker]

So much for not being able to insult NBC. He did it in two different languages tonight.

[zoony]

norm macdonald just walked out- this is going to be brutal, lol :munchout:

[PokerPacker]

norm macdonald just walked out- this is going to be brutal, lol :munchout:

Norm had me rolling. That was great! :rotflmao:

[Fight4RGIII]

I had tears in my eyes

[zoony]

i was SO hoping that Howard Stern was going to do the show before Friday- he said on air today he wasn't going to. :(

THAT would have been epic.

[FanboyOf91]

Conan revenge movie by Tarantino, lol.

[The Brave Little Toaster Oven]

NBC is going to kill the Tonight show...the younger generation that supports Conan will never watch it again after what they are doing to him

[ixcuincle]

Funny thing was the video before Norm walked out of all the hosts fighting in Chinese

[zoony]

thats what nobody is really talking about here. I mean, it's assumed (even by the Leno critics) that the Tonight Show will go right back where it was.

What if Jay tanks? Then what? NBC will have paid 40 million to send their chief talent to another network and instead have a 60 year old 2 time loser (who everyone now resents) as the face of the tonight show franchise.

Epic fail. That is some serious pressure for this move to work

[Fight4RGIII]

Man, it costs the Network a lot of money when we play Zeppelin

[Enter Apotheosis]

Well, he killed in rattings for about a decade.

So the fact that he is destroying Conan in the rattings but couldn't touch Leno has nothing to do with it?

I say good riddens Conan.

:doh:

[NOLASKINSFAN]

What if Jay tanks? Then what? NBC will have paid 40 million to send their chief talent to another network and instead have a 60 year old 2 time loser (who everyone now resents) as the face of the tonight show franchise.

Epic fail. That is some serious pressure for this move to work

First problem, is if Coco is is their Chief talent (he isn't, but that would be a problem.)

Second, Leno will return to his late night dominance of the rattings. Conan might have a slight edge in the very begining but then his viewers will return to Lettermen and they will forever spilt that demographic.

[NOLASKINSFAN]

NBC is going to kill the Tonight show...the younger generation that supports Conan will never watch it again after what they are doing to him

See above... the younger generation is just the vocal minority that is getting excited for a entertaining cause... most do not watch either show. Those that do, already belong to lettermen's base. They will tune in to see his show at first, realize lettermen is better and return to him. Leno will keep his much larger slice of the pie. CoCo is fine at 1230... with no competition, Dave and Jay will slaughter him at 11:30. Ask Dennis Miller how it is to break onto that scene(he was talking about it on his show)...or anyone else who has tried.

[DeanCollins]

NBC is going to kill the Tonight show...the younger generation that supports Conan will never watch it again after what they are doing to him

the younger generation isn't much into traditions anyway, time to kill the tonight show, it hasn't been worth a damn since Johnny retired. Why do you all worship that geeky little dweeb anyway?

[ixcuincle]

Because he's funny?

[ixcuincle]

"And do you know the real reason why they wanted you to start your show at 12:05?"

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/01/19/is-conan-obrien-a-black-m_n_428121.html

I'm going to miss this type of humor after he leaves

[Chachie]

the younger generation isn't much into traditions anyway, time to kill the tonight show, it hasn't been worth a damn since Johnny retired.



Agreed. In fact, IMHO the whole late night talk show genre is played out. I haven't watched any of them in almost a decade and when new shows came along I never bothered to try them out. It's all the same and it's all getting lame.

[Kilmer17]

I still dont understand why Conan doesnt want to do it at 12 instead of 1130.

[Hooper]

I still dont understand why Conan doesnt want to do it at 12 instead of 1130.

Because Leno still would have got the better guests, hurting Conan.

Because Leno's ratings would have been better than his and eventually Conan would be forced out anyway.

NBC execs never wanted to keep Conan. But they didn't want to look like bad guys in the process. So they floated the 12:05 thing because they knew Conan was going to reject it -- they thought this would make him look bad.

Whatever. Late night talk shows -- at least ones with huge audiences -- probably aren't going to be around for much longer, no matter who is hosting.

[MattFancy]

Whatever. Late night talk shows -- at least ones with huge audiences -- probably aren't going to be around for much longer, no matter who is hosting.

I agree with this. I watch every once in awhile, but I dunno, those shows just don't do it for me. I don't know many people my age that watch Leno, Letterman, or Conan. I don't think any of my friends watch either. Just the changing of times I guess.

[Dan T.]

Clue that Conan's Friday show will be his last:

Conan O'Brien's Guest List Hints at Exit
Reuters

By Nellie Andreeva Nellie Andreeva – Wed Jan 20

LOS ANGELES (Hollywood Reporter) – In the strongest indication yet that Friday indeed will mark Conan O'Brien's final "Tonight Show," a list of the booked guests for the rest of this week released Tuesday featured Will Ferrell set to appear Friday.

Ferrell, of course, was the first guest on "The Tonight Show With Conan O'Brien" when the show launched June 1.

It has become somewhat of a tradition on "Tonight." Jay Leno's first guest in 1992, Billy Crystal, guested on what was supposed to be the talk show host's second-to-last "Tonight Show" episode in May. (Leno is now set to return as "Tonight" host March 1.) The reason why Crystal didn't appear on the very last episode was that, in a demonstration of what was billed as a seamless transition, Leno's guest then was Conan O'Brien.

It is safe to say that there is zero chance O'Brien would return the favor.

Rest: http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20100120/en_nm/us_conan

[Spartacus87]

Interesting piece on Deadspin about Dick Ebersol, the Chairman of NBC Sports, who recently came out and called Conan and Letterman "gutless" among other things for attacking Jay Leno and NBC while ignoring their own supposed failures:

http://deadspin.com/5449864/ex+nbc-sports-employee-dick-ebersol-is-the-biggest-failure-of-them-all?skyline=true&s=i


NBC under Ebersol's direction paid $820 million for the 2010 Winter Olympics. Keep in mind that Major League Baseball receives about $670 million a year in TV rights fees for the entire season and the NBA receives about $930 million a year.

While the decision to pay such a staggering sum for a two-week event can be debated — and by the way, that monstrous price tag doesn't even include a worldwide Olympic sponsorship fee approaching nine figures that also gets added to the bill — a look at Ebersol's other NBC initiatives during the last decade show an executive clearly out of touch with the changing tastes of the sports world and the world at large.

Let's take a look at some of Ebersol's recent stretch of questionable decisions:

XFL
In 2001, Ebersol started off the decade with a mind-blowing decision. Incredibly, he decided to partner with contoversial pro wrestling magnate Vince McMahon on a legitimate sports league. Unsurprisingly, within weeks, the football league had set a record for the lowest primetime ratings ever on a major network (http://www.encyclopedia.com/doc/1G1-70931422.html). NBC's loss for the 10-week season was around $35 million.

Online
If there's any question about his lack of long-term vision and cluelessness regarding contemporary culture, perhaps most indicative is the fact that NBC Sports didn't get around to launching its own sports site (http://nbcsports.msnbc.com/) until the tail end of 2006. Think about that for a second. By then, Youtube and Facebook were already major online destinations and over half the homes in the country had access to high-speed internet connections, yet NBC Sports didn't have its own site! Meanwhile, sports sites they would soon be competing with, including ESPN.com, Yahoo.com and FoxSports.com, were already drawing over 10 million monthly loyal unique visitors each. Not surprisingly, NBC Sports has never caught up.

AFL
It seems to be forgotten to history, but from 2003-2006, the major network aired a decidedly minor sport, hoping it would grow into a valuable sports property. Not surprisingly, the ratings were miniscule with the average rating around 1.00 for the four-year run before the project was abandoned (http://nbcsports.msnbc.com/id/29662966). The only bright side? NBC didn't pay any rights fees. (But neither did it generate much profit.)

Universal Sports
Because there's such a clamoring for Olympic sports in non-Olympic years, NBC Sports launched a cable network devoted exclusively to those events. Ever clamor for Alpine skiing in July? They've got you covered. Wait, what? You didn't know this channel even existed (http://www.universalsports.com/)? Exactly.

Notre Dame
In 2008, NBC renewed its TV contract with Notre Dame football. Though the deal is relatively cheap at roughly $9 million a year, Notre Dame's increasing irrelevance as a college football power has been illustrated in the ratings. The Irish have only finished a season ranked 10th or higher just 3 times in the 19 years they've been on NBC (http://nbcsports.msnbc.com/id/25889627/). Regardless of Notre Dame's storied history, NBC is essentially granting a perpetual national showcase to a mid-tier program in hopes that it will rise again. Admittedly, this is the least offensive decision on this list.

Olympics
While the Olympics have been a financial success for NBC up until this year's Winter Games, the critical reception is a whole other story. The network has been repeatedly lambasted for its coverage (http://www.businessinsider.com/2008/8/why-we-love-and-hate-nbc-s-olympic-coverage), showing scores of important and popular events on tape delay, including some of Michael Phelps' historic medal chase in 2008. With all of NBC's cable partners including USA, MSNBC and more participating in the Olympics broadcasting, how does this happen?

You want more? Since the start of 2000, NBC Sports under Ebersol's watch:
* Lost MLB rights (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Major_League_Baseball_on_NBC)
* Lost NBA rights (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NBA_on_NBC)
* Lost NASCAR right (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NASCAR_on_NBC)s
* Became shut out of broadcasting college Bowl games (http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=3710477)
* Hasn't broadcast a single college basketball (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/College_Basketball_on_NBC) game in a very long time

[FanboyOf91]

You forgot the last part.


Incredibly, despite all this, Comcast is still reportedly set to install Ebersol as the head of its sports division when the NBC/Comcast merger is completed.

Versus is owned by Comcast... :doh:

[ixcuincle]

NBC used to broadcast the tournament in the 70's but then CBS has a multimillion dollar contract to broadcast the tournament for a long time. That's not his fault.

NBC sports has been decimated since the NBA on NBC left, other than NHL, ND football, and Sunday Night Football there's nothing of note watching other than the Olympics every two years. Man that network is ****ed up

NBA on NBC was one of the best features of NBC sports and the NBA bolting to ABC was one of the saddest days in Sports TV history. And when you look at the miserable job ABC does broadcasting basketball it really makes you miss the old tripleheader days on NBC

[Spartacus87]

I wish 30 Rock, The Office, Parks and Recreation, and Sunday Night Football weren't on NBC. Then I'd never have any reason to even have that channel.

[panel]

Leno will return to his late night dominance of the rattings. Conan might have a slight edge in the very begining but then his viewers will return to Lettermen and they will forever spilt that demographic.

Leno and Letterman will split the demographic, the younger viewers will watch Conan

[PokerPacker]

You forgot the last part.



Versus is owned by Comcast... :doh:

crap, well there goes hockey.

[ixcuincle]

I was watching the NBC 11 pm news in prep for Conan and I saw an ad with the Bear. The Bear might make an appearance today, keep an eye out!

[ixcuincle]

There he is.

[The Brave Little Toaster Oven]

After everything he's saying, looks like Friday is the last day :(

[Enter Apotheosis]

Damn... Bugatti Veyron as a prop. $1.5 million prop, no less.

[Spartacus87]

Conan is killing it this week. Just murdering it. Great show so far tonight.

[spjunkies]

LMAO it's good to see Conan going back to his "Late Night" roots with this crazy stuff.

[The Brave Little Toaster Oven]

:rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao:

hahahahaha that was hilarious. 1.5Million dollars for 30 seconds :hysterical:

[zoony]

would have been better if he'd taken a sledge hammer to it :)

[zoony]

"Dude, Where's My Show?"

:hysterical:

[Hiro]

Adam Sandler on tonight, FTW. :D

This has been such an awesome episode ...

[Rdskns2000]

Frankly, Conan should actually get into the movies. He should take his act on the road.


"The Conan O'Brien Show" playing at your Arena for the next 3 nights. He could really take it up a notch.

[MattFancy]

http://money.cnn.com/2010/01/21/news/Conan_OBrien_NBC_severance_deal/index.htm?hpt=T2

Conan Inks Severance Deal With NBC





NEW YORK (CNNMoney.com) -- Conan O'Brien has signed a deal with NBC to walk away from "The Tonight Show," the network confirmed Thursday.

"NBC confirms a deal is signed and an official announcement will be made this morning," said NBC spokeswoman Allison Gollust.

The network did not provide details on the agreement, but the deal is expected to include a severance payment of about $32 million for O'Brien plus about $12 million for his staff, according to the Wall Street Journal.

The newspaper said the pact could contain a "nondisparagement clause" for both O'Brien and the network. It is also expected to bar O'Brien from appearing on other shows or hosting his own show for a period of time, sources told the Journal.

[ixcuincle]

The question is how long period of time is, probably until September 2009. Which is stupid.

Bye Bye Conan...your shows on NBC provided humor to many, including me. Hopefully you will succeed on another network with your brand of comedy. Man that guy is hilarious..."I know foo' but you only been funny fo' 8"

[RedskinsTime]

I hope Conan comes back at some point. I always enjoyed him more than Letterman or Leno.

[spjunkies]

The question is how long period of time is, probably until September 2009. Which is stupid.

Bye Bye Conan...your shows on NBC provided humor to many, including me. Hopefully you will succeed on another network with your brand of comedy. Man that guy is hilarious..."I know foo' but you only been funny fo' 8"

So Conan really does have a wayback machine? cool.

[Blackest Eyes]

Conan is going to wipe the floor with Leno in ratings if he goes to Fox. NBC is so incredibly stupid. I will laugh if Leno's ratings are as bad as what Conan had. Leno will now have as much support in the 10 PM primetime spot as Conan did.

[ixcuincle]

Well at least Conan's staff is getting a nice severance package

http://abcnews.go.com/Business/nbc-confirms-deal-conan-obrien-speeds-nbc-show/story?id=9621682


O'Brien had plenty to say about the prospect of his being unable to retain intellectual property rights for some of the material he created at NBC. "Isn't it great to live in a country where a cigar-smoking dog puppet and a bear that masturbates are considered 'intellectual property?'" he joked on the show Tuesday night.

If O'Brien creates a new show on another network, he purportedly won't be allowed to bring some of his best-known bits and characters, such as Triumph the Insult Comic and the Masturbating Bear, among others, with him.

The characters and sketches, according to the Hollywood Reporter, are intellectual property that belongs to NBC, and the network doesn't plan to give them up.

Hopefully Conan will be able to create new IP. In my studies of intellectual property cases I've read that anything you or a group invent for a company belongs to the company and not you, so I'm not surprised he can't bring the Bear with him. This will be a chance for him to be innovative and create new bits, and I have no question he has the capability to do so. During the writer's strike he came up with some nice ****.

LMAO


Leno and O'Brien have both taken shots at NBC and, in some cases, at each other since NBC announced its late-night shuffle. But it has been O'Brien's bitterly comic jabs at the peacock network -- Tuesday night, O'Brien went bilingual in his attacks, saying in Spanish that "NBC is run by brainless sons of goats who eat money and crap trouble" -- that seem to have driven his ratings higher and encouraged passionate fans, including hundreds who held rallies in four U.S. cities earlier this week in support of the host many refer to by the nickname "CoCo."

[Hooper]

You know this is really getting to Leno when he went after Letterman's wife last night.

At least he's finally showing the super nice guy stuff is all an act, something everyone behind the scenes has always known.

Hey, maybe it will make him more interesting to watch.

[ixcuincle]

http://www.buzzfeed.com/mjs538/the-best-signs-from-the-im-with-coco-rallies

http://s.buzzfed.com/static/enhanced/terminal01/2010/1/19/10/enhanced-buzz-25981-1263913782-1.jpg

http://s.buzzfed.com/static/enhanced/terminal01/2010/1/19/10/enhanced-buzz-25957-1263913964-1.jpg

http://s.buzzfed.com/static/enhanced/terminal01/2010/1/19/10/enhanced-buzz-25978-1263914641-1.jpg

http://s.buzzfed.com/static/enhanced/terminal01/2010/1/19/10/enhanced-buzz-25982-1263914313-2.jpg

http://s.buzzfed.com/static/enhanced/terminal01/2010/1/19/10/enhanced-buzz-25977-1263914978-0.jpg

[China]

Conan blows $1.5M of NBC's money:

http://www.buzzfeed.com/digg/conan-obriens-15-million

[PokerPacker]

Conan blows $1.5M of NBC's money:

http://www.buzzfeed.com/digg/conan-obriens-15-million

Goes a long way from his late-night bits about how cheaply his show is produced, reusing the same costume for who knows how many different characters.

[Who Del]

I love it.

Jay is Mr. Nice Guy and I'm so safe I'm not going to cross too many lines.

Conan is going all out. I loved his monologue:

"Kids you can do anything you want to. That is unless Jay Leno wants to do it, too."

Jay, go **** yourself.

[Who Del]

Also I love how many shots have been taken at Carson Daly.

I didn't even realize he was on the air anymore

[NOLASKINSFAN]

The question is how long period of time is, probably until September 2009. Which is stupid.

Bye Bye Conan...your shows on NBC provided humor to many, including me. Hopefully you will succeed on another network with your brand of comedy. Man that guy is hilarious..."I know foo' but you only been funny fo' 8"


I love how you guys are making a maytr out of a guy getting paid $30,000,000 not to work.

[Buford]

The money thing aside. NBC I hope has hurt itself for a long time.

I want to see Conan land somewhere else, have a new show that lasts a long time and makes whoever a ton of money well after they discover that bringing Jay back to 11:30 doesn't do anything positive.

The winner in all of this is Letterman. The folks who liked Conan will go to Letterman if they want a talk show.

[ECU-ALUM]

I would give just about a year's pay for Johnny Carson to comeback from the dead and hear what he has to say about this situation and what has happend to the show he built up and made a television institution.

[IONTOP]

I would give just about a year's pay for Carson to comeback from the dead and hear what he has to say about this situation and what has happend to the show he built up and made a television institution.

He's on at like 1:35 or something...

[Elessar78]

Well at least Conan's staff is getting a nice severance package

http://abcnews.go.com/Business/nbc-confirms-deal-conan-obrien-speeds-nbc-show/story?id=9621682



Hopefully Conan will be able to create new IP. In my studies of intellectual property cases I've read that anything you or a group invent for a company belongs to the company and not you, so I'm not surprised he can't bring the Bear with him. This will be a chance for him to be innovative and create new bits, and I have no question he has the capability to do so. During the writer's strike he came up with some nice ****.

LMAO

Yeah. I don't know what the wording of the termination agreement is, but I think new characters like "Victory: the disparaging hilarious cat" or "Self pleasuring Sloth" will have a lot of mileage just 'cause it can be a direct F-U to NBC.

[ECU-ALUM]

He's on at like 1:35 or something...

:D Nice shot.

[Spartacus87]

I would give just about a year's pay for Johnny Carson to comeback from the dead and hear what he has to say about this situation and what has happend to the show he built up and made a television institution. Well, considering that he was writing jokes for Letterman to use on The Late Show, up until his death, I think you can understand at least his feelings on Leno running The Tonight Show. He'd probably just say "I told you so" about Leno in all of this.

[Rdskns2000]

With Friday being the last Tonight Show with Conan, how should he end his short run?


He can't return to TV until Sept. 1, which I suspect will be on FOX. Though Fox is going to have to convince those stations Conan will do more for them than reruns of Seinfield, etc...

[Rdskns2000]

http://blog.zap2it.com/frominsidethebox/2010/01/conan-obrien-leaves-nbc-for-45-million-deal.html

$33 million isn't bad. Also, getting $12 million for his staff is pretty good also.

[Rdskns2000]

Conan is free to return to TV on Sept. 1, so how should he do it. Obviously, first he has to find a new network but he will have plenty of time for that.

[Fight4RGIII]

Jeez, just watching Jay Leno and Conan these past few weeks, you can tell which one is on fire. I'm watching Jay right now and he is so unfunny. The jokes his writers gave him are not funny at all either. Conan is killing it. I don't watch Letterman that much but I think I'm going to switch over to him or Kimmel during late night if I am up until Conan gets a new show.

[ixcuincle]

Lol Pee Wee Herman

[PokerPacker]

It was great to see PeeWee back in character.

[ixcuincle]

Robin Williams is one of the least funniest people ever

Just because you talk in falsetto accents really fast doesn't mean you're funny

[spjunkies]

Robin Williams is one of the least funniest people ever

Just because you talk in falsetto accents really fast doesn't mean you're funny

I'm glad I'm not the only one he annoys.

[PokerPacker]

Robin Williams has his moments, but he's too much of a cartoon.

[fullnelson9999]

I'm glad I'm not the only one he annoys.

I dunno. That Irish song was pretty damn funny.

[Enter Apotheosis]

Robin Williams and Ben Stiller both fell horribly flat. The great thing about Conan, though, is that he's very easy to read and it's quite obvious he's as perplexed as anyone else out there.

[NOLASKINSFAN]

Jeez, just watching Jay Leno and Conan these past few weeks, you can tell which one is on fire. I'm watching Jay right now and he is so unfunny.


"Letterman has been hammering me every night," Leno said on Wednesday's show. "You know the best way to get Letterman to ignore you? Marry him. He will not bother you. He won't look you in the eye."

Last week, Leno said Letterman's attacks surprised him because "usually he's just taking shots at the interns."


funny stuff imo

[ixcuincle]

Even the most ardent of Robin Williams haters (me) approved of that dance

Was pretty funny, and he kept using profanity too, they had to bleep him out LOL

[spjunkies]

I wonder if Carlton is in the audience.

http://blogxilla.com/blog3/wp-content/uploads/2008/12/carlton-dance.gif

[Who Del]

lol @ Mine That Bird in a Mink Snuggie watching restricted NFL Super Bowl footage

[PokerPacker]

lol @ Mine That Bird in a Mink Snuggie watching restricted NFL Super Bowl footage

damn, 4.8 million. Makes that Bugatti Veyron Mouse look cheap.

[Spartacus87]

"Letterman has been hammering me every night," Leno said on Wednesday's show. "You know the best way to get Letterman to ignore you? Marry him. He will not bother you. He won't look you in the eye."

Last week, Leno said Letterman's attacks surprised him because "usually he's just taking shots at the interns."

funny stuff imo Yeah, real hilarious that Jay had to go low enough to bring Letterman's wife and marital issues into it.

Clip from 2006 where Stern was warning Conan that Leno wouldn't leave The Tonight Show:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=voCiTdBL8nc

[IONTOP]

lol @ Mine That Bird in a Mink Snuggie watching restricted NFL Super Bowl footage

I was trying to figure out which super bowl that was from... anyone?

Also was it really Mine that bird?

And did they really buy a Bugatti and only put cosmetic stuff on it?

I'm thinking that it's one of the most elaborate ploys for ratings ever...

[Who Del]

I was trying to figure out which super bowl that was from... anyone?

Also was it really Mine that bird?

And did they really buy a Bugatti and only put cosmetic stuff on it?

I'm thinking that it's one of the most elaborate ploys for ratings ever...

http://backporch.fanhouse.com/2010/01/22/mine-that-bird-on-conan-watching-usfl-not-super-bowl/


That Super Bowl footage that Conan allegedly purchased using NBC's money wasn't from the Super Bowl at all. Todd Wright of Sporting News Radio pointed out on Twitter (http://twitter.com/Todd_Wright/status/8060463666) that it was actually a 1984 USFL game between the Tampa Bay Bandits and Houston Gamblers. And one would hope it goes without saying that Conan didn't really buy Mine That Bird.

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[Predicto]

Robin Williams is one of the least funniest people ever

Just because you talk in falsetto accents really fast doesn't mean you're funny

He ain't what he used to be.

But what he used to be was actually pretty awesome.

[Rdskns2000]

Here we go, the final Tonight Show with Conan.

[ixcuincle]

Need to ransack that place like the old Senators stadium after the Sens forfeited their last game

[Rdskns2000]

$65 million dollars for the final bit

[ixcuincle]

Lol It's not real

There you go critics.

[PokerPacker]

I ALMOST forgot to tune in.

[TheDoyler23]

Lol It's not real

There you go critics.

Of course it wasn't.

The audience is really over laughing at everything....kinda annoying

[The Brave Little Toaster Oven]

damnit...I wished it was real :ols:

[DoGood28]

Haha, Conan is so badass.

[TheDoyler23]

Haha, Conan is so badass.

But Jay has Monica Lewinsky Jokes...
:doh:

[The Brave Little Toaster Oven]

I wonder how hard it was to get a ticket to tonights show?

[ixcuincle]

Bash Jay all you want but don't forget to bash Fallon too. Did you see how bad his show looked from that commercial? Why is he writing about Ponytails?

[ixcuincle]

Michael Scott to perform exit interview.

[renaissance]

LOL at the exit interview

"Did you consider transferring to a different department at NBC?"

edit: Also LOL at the Up In the Air quote

[ixcuincle]

Again...what other host interacts with guests like this? Why is this show being canceled?

"This is cream soda!"

[spjunkies]

I love me some funny Tom Hanks.

[Hiro]

I wonder how other guests are going to interact with Jay after he takes the show back. Sigh :doh:

[PokerPacker]

Bash Jay all you want but don't forget to bash Fallon too. Did you see how bad his show looked from that commercial? Why is he writing about Ponytails?

Fallon isn't worth an afterthought.

[Spartacus87]

Bash Jay all you want but don't forget to bash Fallon too. Did you see how bad his show looked from that commercial? Why is he writing about Ponytails? It's not fair to bash Fallon yet. He's only been on for 7 months, and he's still getting a feel for what works and what doesn't on the show, and how to get the interview thing down.

He deserves the same time to grow into his job, as Conan did with The Tonight Show, and as Leno got when he first got The Tonight Show (Leno actually got 2 years to when the Hugh Grant incident happened).

[ixcuincle]

I wonder how other guests are going to interact with Jay after he takes the show back. Sigh :doh:

To be fair to Jay he implemented a useful interface during the Jay Leno show, two chairs facing each other. It was a very casual atmosphere. It's a shame that show didn't work out and I hope he uses similar interface when he takes back 11:30 pm show

Neil Young with some good music here

[ixcuincle]

It's not fair to bash Fallon yet. He's only been on for 7 months, and he's still getting a feel for what works and what doesn't on the show, and how to get the interview thing down.

He deserves the same time to grow into his job, as Conan did with The Tonight Show, and as Leno got when he first got The Tonight Show (Leno actually got 2 years to when the Hugh Grant incident happened).

I understand but these ads are just horrible and unappealing, they showed another one

This is garbage and the producer that put the Fallon show out is garbage. </endGundyreference>

He might get better later on but right now he's just not funny. I thought he was funnier on SNL as Barry Gibb

[ixcuincle]

Conan is a man OF CLASS

[Spartacus87]

I understand but these ads are just horrible and unappealing, they showed another one

This is garbage and the producer that put the Fallon show out is garbage. </endGundyreference>

He might get better later on but right now he's just not funny. I thought he was funnier on SNL as Barry Gibb Maybe the ads are questionable, but that's not a knock on the show itself.


To be fair to Jay he implemented a useful interface during the Jay Leno show, two chairs facing each other. It was a very casual atmosphere. It's a shame that show didn't work out and I hope he uses similar interface when he takes back 11:30 pm show

Neil Young with some good music here I thought the format Jay had, with him sitting in a chair looking at the other person, was kind of awkward. I like the desk look a lot better.

[Rdskns2000]

Classy ending Conan!

[Spartacus87]

Conan's about a million times classier than Leno.

[Hiro]

This is really an emotional ending. Love you Conan! :(

[ixcuincle]

Great way to send Conan out

[ixcuincle]

Needs more cowbell.

Love the Cowbell dance..."I GOT A FEVER, AND THE ONLY PRESCRIPTION IS MORE COWBELL"

[PokerPacker]

Oh my god, Will Ferrell reprising his spot with the cowbell has me rolling. :rotflmao:

[Rdskns2000]

This is really an emotional ending. Love you Conan! :(

Best emotional ending since Carson retired.

[ixcuincle]

Fallon with a nod to Conan. Good job man.

LMAO

"HEY WHAT THE HECK ARE YOU GUYS DOING IN MY STUDIO"

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

[willygogo]

On the verge of tears, Conan was classy all the way out. He looked badass on that guitar too. Can't wait to see what he does come September.

[Hiro]

Hahaha actually, that was pretty awesome Jimmy. :)

[ixcuincle]

It was unfair of me to judge Fallon based on several commercials I saw during Conan's show. After Conan went off the air I left the TV on and Fallon had a hilarious tribute.

These monologues aren't too bad either. I'm sorry I ripped on Fallon.

[The Brave Little Toaster Oven]

Bye Bye NBC...you can take your Tonight Show with Jay Leno and shove it.

[NOLASKINSFAN]

I hope you guys really do support Conan in the long run, he isn't bad, but he is no Jay or Dave. He will need you all to give him nominal rattings to stay on Fox or more likely Cable (Seinfield reruns >CoCo) It's a shame NBC screwed this all up.

[StillUnknown]

Bye Bye NBC...you can take your Tonight Show with Jay Leno and shove it.

pretty much sums up my feelings

[willygogo]

I hope you guys really do support Conan in the long run, he isn't bad, but he is no Jay or Dave. He will need you all to give him nominal rattings to stay on Fox or more likely Cable (Seinfield reruns >CoCo) It's a shame NBC screwed this all up.

What is with your constant hate for Conan? He hasn't been in the major spotlight for as long as Dave or Jay, no, but he still puts on a hell of a show. His network did him wrong, and he called them out. He's now on a hiatus until he lands elsewhere, where I am sure he will safely. You really have just come across as a hater this entire thread. You like Leno, great, that's fine, but you don't need to continuously bash Conan to be ok.

[PokerPacker]

What is with your constant hate for Conan? He hasn't been in the major spotlight for as long as Dave or Jay, no, but he still puts on a hell of a show. His network did him wrong, and he called them out. He's now on a hiatus until he lands elsewhere, where I am sure he will safely. You really have just come across as a hater this entire thread. You like Leno, great, that's fine, but you don't need to continuously bash Conan to be ok.

Its better to ignore trolls. Especially the type that continually misspells the word essential to their constant harping. They get off on attention.

[willygogo]

Its better to ignore trolls. Especially the type that continually misspells the word essential to their constant harping. They get off on attention.

Yeah, but he seems very non-troll-ish. Lots of posts, fairly active, etc... I just don't get it. Conan's RATTINGS definitely have been slacking, I know, but I just wish I knew what rattings were. Then I may know why that is important.

[Kosher Ham]

But don't all of you realize that if everyone supported Conan so much... his ratings would have been better and none of this would be an issue ?

I don't see hate from that latest comment, I see realistic.

[willygogo]

But don't all of you realize that if everyone supported Conan so much... his ratings would have been better and none of this would be an issue ?

I don't see hate from that latest comment, I see realistic.

The thing I see about Conan is that he has the younger crowd wrapped up. Problem with that is a good part of them stay out later, get on computers and such, just don't watch much tv, especially at 1130 at night. We realize our guy has a problem, we rally, but for the most part, take advantage of hulu and don't pay attention to tv. I definitely believe Conan will make his presence felt once he lands elsewhere.

[PokerPacker]

The thing I see about Conan is that he has the younger crowd wrapped up. Problem with that is a good part of them stay out later, get on computers and such, just don't watch much tv, especially at 1130 at night. We realize our guy has a problem, we rally, but for the most part, take advantage of hulu and don't pay attention to tv. I definitely believe Conan will make his presence felt once he lands elsewhere.

Personally, my problem all started with the damn digital transition. The damn digital signal is so weak that my digital converter box is useless and I don't get any damn channels in my room. Well, now that I got a new HDTV I had NBCHD for about half a day, FOXHD for the duration of the Packers playoff game, and now my20 (or whatever the hell they're calling it these days) is the only channel I can pick up. DAMN YOU DIGITAL TRANSITION! I always had a night-time ritual of watching Conan in bed.

[Kosher Ham]

Personally, my problem all started with the damn digital transition. The damn digital signal is so weak that my digital converter box is useless and I don't get any damn channels in my room. Well, now that I got a new HDTV I had NBCHD for about half a day, FOXHD for the duration of the Packers playoff game, and now my20 (or whatever the hell they're calling it these days) is the only channel I can pick up. DAMN YOU DIGITAL TRANSITION! I always had a night-time ritual of watching Conan in bed.

But digital cable has been around for at least 12 years in the DC area.

I didn't know that regular cable still existed in DC.

I have had DirecTv since I left DC about 10 years ago and it was not even a difference watching the programs.

[PokerPacker]

But digital cable has been around for at least 12 years in the DC area.

I didn't know that regular cable still existed in DC.

I have had DirecTv since I left DC about 10 years ago and it was not even a difference watching the programs.
I'm still running off a damn antenna in my room. My dad's been too lazy to run a cable up to my room. Only room in the damn house without cable :mad:

[Kosher Ham]

I'm still running off a damn antenna in my room. My dad's been too lazy to run a cable up to my room. Only room in the damn house without cable :mad:

Maybe he just wants you to watch Redskins games...

:evilg:

[Spartacus87]

But don't all of you realize that if everyone supported Conan so much... his ratings would have been better and none of this would be an issue ?

I don't see hate from that latest comment, I see realistic. And where were Jay Leno's fans from 11:30? Busy watching anything else at 10?

It's not really fair to pick on just Conan's ratings when you consider he immediately, along with the entire Tonight Show franchise, became the second rate night time talk show on NBC. Leno's show was much more heavily promoted, had the first run at major guests, etc.

NBC only really gave Conan about half of what he should have had on The Tonight Show in terms of network support.

And Leno's ratings on The Tonight Show, when he originally took it over, sucked for about 2 years until he got the famous Hugh Grant interview. In fact, 7 months in, NBC was talking about maybe replacing Leno.

[ixcuincle]

Some of O'Brien's outspoken fans -- who have relished the comic's attacks on his employer in recent days -- lined up in heavy rain early Friday morning at the studio to try to score tickets to the final broadcast. Many young fans who were small children when O'Brien burst to fame as host of NBC's "Late Night" in 1993 acted out favorite bits from the show, including the comic's signature "string dance."

A last-minute splurge on travel tickets brought 27-year-old Chris Knudsen all the way from Austin, Texas, on Thursday night. He then took a 2 1/2 -hour bus trip with a friend from her home in La Mirada to Universal City.

"It was a very spontaneous trip," Knudsen acknowledged. "But it's Conan. I had to do it. I've been watching him since his first season on 'Late Night.' It was a family tradition -- starting with Letterman -- to stay up late to watch the show. When Conan took over, he stuck with me and I stuck with him."

Stephanie Martinez, 21, a college student from Downey, joined many of her peers in favorably comparing her comedy hero with Jay Leno, who was O'Brien's predecessor on "Tonight" and will be his successor as well.

Leno is "a lower level of comedy," said Martinez, who said she attended Thursday's O'Brien taping. "Conan connects with his audience. He goes out of his way to let us know we're on the same level. I connected with him. He's so much like me. . . . I would totally do the string dance."

http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-ct-conan23-2010jan23,0,4973739.story

[Blackest Eyes]

I think the funniest part of this entire debacle is that Leno's rating at 10 PM were awful. The networks were complaining because their ratings for 11 PM news were down. Obviously if their ratings are down, the ratings for the Tonight Show would be down. NBC's original plan of moving Leno back to 11:35 for half an hour was awful. The plan of having him replace Conan again is terrible. NBC was very impatient with Conan. The guy was your employee for 20 years, give him a chance to succeed. And I totally agree with everyone else who has said Conan lacked network support. That is 100% accurate. Everything was about Leno @ 10 which was horrific. I never saw anything about Conan.

Oh well.

[Bzapf]

I only missed 1 Tonight Show w/ Conan. I have been watching Conan for about 8 years now. Last night was freaking sad. He is going to land somewhere else and do great. His fanbase doesn't just like him, they love him.

They could have cancelled Leno after 7 months but they let him have 2 years before his ratings improved. But it's whatever now.

[StillUnknown]

I think the funniest part of this entire debacle is that Leno's rating at 10 PM were awful. The networks were complaining because their ratings for 11 PM news were down. Obviously if their ratings are down, the ratings for the Tonight Show would be down. NBC's original plan of moving Leno back to 11:35 for half an hour was awful. The plan of having him replace Conan again is terrible. NBC was very impatient with Conan. The guy was your employee for 20 years, give him a chance to succeed. And I totally agree with everyone else who has said Conan lacked network support. That is 100% accurate. Everything was about Leno @ 10 which was horrific. I never saw anything about Conan.

Oh well.

i agree completely

if 7 months was the standard for making the Tonight Show a success, Leno would've been tossed shortly after he got the gig

[Teller]

I've lost all respect for Leno and NBC.

[SloppyOneXXVI]

I just watched the last episode. (Thanks DVR) His speech at the end was classy and inspirational. What a great message to leave for everyone, especially younger people like myself. Here's the final quote:

"To all the people watching, I can never thank you enough for your kindness to me and I'll think about it for the rest of my life. All I ask of you is one thing: please don't be cynical. I hate cynicism -- it's my least favorite quality and it doesn't lead anywhere. Nobody in life gets exactly what they thought they were going to get. But if you work really hard and you're kind, amazing things will happen."

[Rdskns2000]

The thing I see about Conan is that he has the younger crowd wrapped up. Problem with that is a good part of them stay out later, get on computers and such, just don't watch much tv, especially at 1130 at night. We realize our guy has a problem, we rally, but for the most part, take advantage of hulu and don't pay attention to tv. I definitely believe Conan will make his presence felt once he lands elsewhere.



Give 5-10 years and you young ones will be home.


I like Leno and Conan but Jay Leno is forever damaged by this fiasco.


NBC frankly should be dissolved as a network. NBC didn't want to lose Conan, so in 2004 they give him the Tonight Show. If Jay really didn't want that to happen, he could've told NBC no back in 2004. He was good with, being the corporate guy.

Here we are in 2009 and NBC doesn't want to loose Leno. Are they that stupid to think a talk show would work at 10pm against 2 networks that show scripted programming? Also, alot people go back watch what they recorded at 8 or 9pm. Jay Leno, Conan Obrien, hell even Johnny Carson wouldn't work at 10pm. NBC should't just canceled Jay and Jay would've been free to go to ABC or FOX.

The thing is, NBC really didn't have any faith in Conan at all and this was evident with the attempted of a stupid 10pm show. That was the first sign that Conan's days were numbered; even before he started.


Well, NBC will know have a damaged LENO. I don't care what they think, he will never have the same ratings as he's damaged goods. Letterman should have a nice run at the top until Conan returns, assuming he's on FOX or ABC.

[PokerPacker]

Maybe he just wants you to watch Redskins games...

:evilg:

what, my Eagles-fan dad wants me to watch Redskins games? :silly:

[MikeSellers45]

It really sucks that his show his over. I never watched Conan's Late Night show, but I really enjoyed his Tonight Show. Watching the classic Tonight Show moments the past week and the highlight reel last night made me realize how much I will miss is show. I hope he gets picked up by FOX and takes Andy with him.

[ixcuincle]

I just hope he moves his show back to NYC and brings back JOEL GODARD

http://images.tvrage.com/people/38/111413.jpg

Described by Conan as "Maniacal Joel Godard"

[PokerPacker]

I dunno about Andy Richter. I liked him better having his own TV series rather than Conan's side-kick. I wouldn't mind seeing him and Conan teaming up for a new TV show on whatever network picks up Conan. Andy Barker, P.I. (starring Andy, of course, and produced or whatever by Conan) was hilarious but got the Conan-treatment in getting railroaded out of the network. I wouldn't be surprised if NBC had it out for Conan for a long time and AB, P.I. was a foreshadowing of what was to come.

Anyways, I would love to have Joel Godard back and get Max Weinberg back into the show a bit more like the old days. And we need to get the random James Lipton cameos back. Those were always great.

[ixcuincle]

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[ixcuincle]

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[ixcuincle]

http://ms-cdn.com/static/coco/conan_tour_poster.jpg

Coming to DC, DAR Constitution Hall around June or something

Too lazy and poor to go

[Blackest Eyes]

I just tried to get tickets for this but for some reason it isn't working. My friend said he tried when they first went on sale and was having the same issues. Hopefully they are not sold out yet. I really want to go.