What do skins fans think about bringing in Peppers?

[Dallascrushers]

I didn't see this post anywhere and if I missed it sorry guys. I just want to see what people think since Carolina will probably let him go because he will be costing them over 20 million dollars to franchise tag him because he is up for like a 20 percent raise. I don't know how he would fit in if we switched to a 3-4 defense. Let me know what you guys think.

[The Cowboy Bamma Rocker]

I dunno, just sounds like a vinny move. but if our LBs looked like: Orakpo, Rocky, London, and Peppers/Dansby then it would be nice. Still need an NT. that could also be a stopgap solution with Wilfork or Hampton, doubtful that both get slapped with the tag. However, I vote for building the O-line almost entirely with the draft.

[NewCliche21]

You didn't see this posted anywhere THIS year. It's been up for discussion every offseason for as long as I've been here. :)

If this were seven years ago, then sure. However, let's move forward. As TCBR said, it's a Vinny move. It wouldn't fly here.

[Dallascrushers]

I wasn't saying I wanted him I just wanted to see what people thought of peppers still. I agree the guy is 30 years old and he would want a salary comparable to haynesworth

[The Cowboy Bamma Rocker]

I wasn't saying I wanted him I just wanted to see what people thought of peppers still. I agree the guy is 30 years old and he would want a salary comparable to haynesworth

if that were the case, then it is a flat out no.

[Burgold]

The symbolism would be horrible. He'd be seen as another four star, aging vet blue chipper on a Danny spending spree.

[redskindan07]

If we see an uncapped year on the horizon I wouldn't mind

[The Cowboy Bamma Rocker]

The symbolism would be horrible. He'd be seen as another four star, aging vet blue chipper on a Danny spending spree.

who cares what the media says. i just trust the new regime to make whatever decisions they want. if they think peppers would be a good fit, then im all for it. the difference is, I KNOW they wont be dishing out that $$$ as much as dan did for vinny's choices. not that we'll be cheap-o's (lol... peter angelos) but just smarter with money.

[bulldog]

Pass on Peppers.

[gutlead74]

While physically gifted beyond reason Peppers is a mal content always unhappy not always willing to give it all, so pass.

[Morneblade]

Nyet. I'd rather develop Jarmon.

[MrJL]

I dunno, just sounds like a vinny move. but if our LBs looked like: Orakpo, Rocky, London, and Peppers/Dansby then it would be nice. Still need an NT. that could also be a stopgap solution with Wilfork or Hampton, doubtful that both get slapped with the tag. However, I vote for building the O-line almost entirely with the draft.

Actually Peppers has talked about playing as a 3-4 DE and at 283, his playing weight according NFL.com, he's only two pounds below the minimum weight you want for a 3-4 DE.

[MrJL]

Nyet. I'd rather develop Jarmon.

still recovering from an injury

[Hitman#21]

Love Peppers, i dont know where he fits in in the 3-4 though.

[[[ghost]]]

If he didn't cost us anything other than a contract, him and Wilfork would be great.

This would allow us to concentrate our entire draft on the offense, save for DBs.

This would also allow us to draft a QB in the 1st Round, since we could devote the rest of the draft to the OL.

[addicted]

Not interested at all. He disappears in way too many games

[Chris0894]

I think i see this thread every off-season and I think i still dont like the idea

[Forever21]

We don't need him. We have Carter, Orakpo, and Jarmon as established and up and coming pass rushers. We have too many holes to fill to worry about Peppers.

[bushwack]

:beatdeadhorse:

[The Cowboy Bamma Rocker]

Actually Peppers has talked about playing as a 3-4 DE and at 283, his playing weight according NFL.com, he's only two pounds below the minimum weight you want for a 3-4 DE.

Hm, well that would be interesting... but don't we have a decent amount of possible 3-4 DE's already on the roster? Haynesworth, Lorenzo, Golston, Jarmon to name a few?

[theboomking]

We don't need him. We have Carter, Orakpo, and Jarmon as established and up and coming pass rushers. We have too many holes to fill to worry about Peppers.

Jarmon has no sacks in his career and is coming off an ACL.
Carter already failed Ina 3-4 in San Fran, is on the wrong side of 30, and is going to be having a major surgery this off season.

Orakpo does look like a stud fit at olb in a 3-4, but to say we don't still need passrushers is incorrect. That being said, we need to be building for the future and peppers is also on the wrong side of 30. I'd be in favor of getting a guy like Jerry Hughes or Brandon Graham to rush opposite Rak.

[The Cowboy Bamma Rocker]

Jarmon has no sacks in his career and is coming off an ACL.
Carter already failed Ina 3-4 in San Fran, is on the wrong side of 30, and is going to be having a major surgery this off season.

Orakpo does look like a stud fit at olb in a 3-4, but to say we don't still need passrushers is incorrect. That being said, we need to be building for the future and peppers is also on the wrong side of 30. I'd be in favor of getting a guy like Jerry Hughes or Brandon Graham to rush opposite Rak.

The fact that Jarmon has no sacks so far doesn't mean anything. He was being developed at the position and unfortunately got injured midseason. He's a great prospect.

[Forever21]

Jarmon has no sacks in his career and is coming off an ACL.
Carter already failed Ina 3-4 in San Fran, is on the wrong side of 30, and is going to be having a major surgery this off season.

Orakpo does look like a stud fit at olb in a 3-4, but to say we don't still need passrushers is incorrect. That being said, we need to be building for the future and peppers is also on the wrong side of 30. I'd be in favor of getting a guy like Jerry Hughes or Brandon Graham to rush opposite Rak.

I said developing and obviously when I said that I was referring specifically to Jarmon.

Jarmon's time will come. Pass rushers are something no team can ever have enough of. But once you have a certain number of them you do have to focus elsewhere in order to actually win.

[Snagletooth]

Peppers wants to be an OLB in a 3-4 not a DE. If the cap is going away and going away for good Peppers begins to make sense. Peppers would likely be an upgrade over Carter at DE in a 4-3 or OLB in a 3-4.

But not a huge upgrade and maybe not worth the money for the guy writing the check, its still real money out of his pocket regardless of cap. But that would be offset by jersey sales, to the extent of $40 million, I don't know about that. Being a fan of Carter, I don't know, I suppose I could stand to see Carter as the 1st rotation guy. Ok I'm on board..

[Peregrine]

It just doesnt make much sense to spend a lot of money on a position that is already a strength. The return we will get for that just isn't worth it. DE was a strength and a position we have young up and comers at. So why then would we spend money and resources here, AND mess with what was working? That would be the exact type of move that this FO has been blasted by by fans for years.

[mcarey032]

It was mentioned all last season that he really wanted to go somewhere they played a 3-4 style of defense. I think that he would be great in whatever defense he wanted to play. I don't think that he would be all that great at LB. He would certainly be a large obstruction to the QB though. He really made the Vikings look bad this year. I would take him, provided the price is right.

[Seabee1973]

Why dont we draft our own peppers

[The Cowboy Bamma Rocker]

Why dont we draft our own peppers

Salts?

[SIXX99]

:beatdeadhorse:

That is awesome! When did we get this sweet new smiley?

Which Peppers are we talking about, Red Hot Chili or Julius?

[The Cowboy Bamma Rocker]

That is awesome! When did we get this sweet new smiley?

Which Peppers are we talking about, Red Hot Chili or Julius?

lol NOW they have it??? I was looking for it the other day!

[texasthunder]

If we are going to make any kind of splash for a defensive player I would hope it would be for Willfok, to play NT in the 3-4.

If we dont go to a 3-4 then we pick up some depth on defense.

[The Cowboy Bamma Rocker]

If we are going to make any kind of splash for a defensive player I would hope it would be for Willfok, to play NT in the 3-4.

If we dont go to a 3-4 then we pick up some depth on defense.

That is the only position on defense that is an ABSOLUTE need this offseason if we do indeed switch to a 3-4. Schwartz and the media insist that Haynesworth will work as an NT, but truth is he's not built for the position and could be a lot more efficient at DE.

[Santana_89]

Pass on Peppers.

agreed


I'd rather develop Jarmon.
agreed

[mistertim]

If we are going to make any kind of splash for a defensive player I would hope it would be for Willfok, to play NT in the 3-4.

If we dont go to a 3-4 then we pick up some depth on defense.

Could you imagine being on an OL and having to line up across from Wilfork with Haynesworth right next to him?

:paranoid:

[texasthunder]

Could you imagine being on an OL and having to line up across from Wilfork with Haynesworth right next to him?

:paranoid:


And then throw in Rak, blitzing a gap.

:drooley:

[allskins]

I didn't see this post anywhere and if I missed it sorry guys. I just want to see what people think since Carolina will probably let him go because he will be costing them over 20 million dollars to franchise tag him because he is up for like a 20 percent raise. I don't know how he would fit in if we switched to a 3-4 defense. Let me know what you guys think.

I don't want any more "retreads" coming in here. I think we need to find our own young talent and raise them up to be a Redskin.:)

[Koolblue13]

He should be able to hold the point, while Merriman rushes up field.

[Jeff in D.C.]

Unless he'd come cheap (relatively speaking), I say forget Peppers. He just turned 30 and seems slower than he used to be. We need to use the money to fill other needs, and defensive line really isn't a major need compared to other positions.

AC is getting older as well, but just for reference, he's 8 months older than Peppers and had .5 more sacks than Peppers did last year. I say stick with AC for now.

[HitStickTaylor21]

Peppers said last year he didn't want to be franchised and wanted to go only to a team that ran a 3-4, so he'd like the system for sure. At his age though, we'd have to give him an enormous contract for just one or two more years of productivity from him before he declines.

I don't think Peppers is the answer, I'd rather go with drafting and developing our own players.

[Siven]

Actually Peppers has talked about playing as a 3-4 DE and at 283, his playing weight according NFL.com, he's only two pounds below the minimum weight you want for a 3-4 DE.


No, you're wrong. He's talked about wanting to play 3-4 OLB

[Gibbs Hog Heaven]

That is the only position on defense that is an ABSOLUTE need this offseason if we do indeed switch to a 3-4. Schwartz and the media insist that Haynesworth will work as an NT, but truth is he's not built for the position and could be a lot more efficient at DE.

Aside from the personal b/s what Haynesworth will or won't want to do, (not that, that should or will matter. He's paid to play, wherever the coaches put him. And Holiday Camp shay Redskins for the players left the building with the clown now tutoring Flaco up in Baltimore); I really don't get the "he's not built for the position" line as regards a 34 NT.

I can see the argument for him as more of a 34 end to be more disruptive, (although personaly I'd preffer a 34 with smaller, quicker more athletic ends to start the pass rush); but he's the PERFECT size and build for a 34 NT. If he can't take on double blocks in the A gaps, and stuff any attempted run through them, nobody can.

If he comes back with a professional attitude that he's not shown thus far in DC, and we condition his fat ass into shape to actually stay on the field, he's the perfect 34 NT.

Hail.

*Edit* No to Peppers BTW as regards the OP's question. Not at this stage of his career, and the money he'd generate. Much rather work on developing our own as we move forward from scratch with the new system for DC.

[The Cowboy Bamma Rocker]

GHH, he's the right weight, but not the right frame. the reason he was paid 100 mil was because of his wrecking ability as a 4-3 DT. That does not play the same role as a 3-4 NT and the skills won't translate to full potential, i.e. we're not getting our money's worth. It would be worth it to find a true 3-4 NT (wilfork, hampton, through the draft) and let Big Al do his thing. I know hes a whiner, but he also wants his team to win...

[Gibbs Hog Heaven]

I guess we see different things TCBR.

I understand the burst he has to get into he backfield and be disruptive with his strength; but if he's disciplined, I don't see why he can't translate into the perfect 3-4 NT.

Perfect weight, big, thick, long arms to take on the A gap blocks, (not many linemen will overpower and move the fat man back), and he can be a beast against the run.

It'll sure be interesting to see what Haslett and his staff decide to do with him.

Hail.

[theboomking]

If we are going to make any kind of splash for a defensive player I would hope it would be for Willfok, to play NT in the 3-4.

If we dont go to a 3-4 then we pick up some depth on defense.

I second this. The other advantage that Wilfork has over Peppers is age. Nose tackles, in general, have a very long shelf life, and can play extraordinarily well into their mid 30's.

[jfr3ek]

...although Pepper's is a great talent...i hope we don't even attempt to get this guy.

[Geoff_K]

No thanks, old guy past his peak. Find some young guys that could be here for the next 8 - 10 years please.

[ChiefPowhatan17]

Sorry, but no, we are in a rebuild, this would not suit a rebuild situation. We should not over pay for any free agent, no matter what.

[theboomking]

The fact that Jarmon has no sacks so far doesn't mean anything. He was being developed at the position and unfortunately got injured midseason. He's a great prospect.

For everyone banking on Jarmon, I worry you'll be disappointed, especially if you are banking on him as a pass rusher. Rushing the passer wasn't Jarmon's specialty in college, although he did have one good year in which he posted 9 sacks.

Our best hope for Jarmon is that he will recover fully and lock down one of our 5 technique positions. I can't really come up with a poster child however for DL that have had their ACL reconstructed and come back to have a very productive career. Maybe Osi will be that guy.

The point is, even if Jarmon Pans out most 3-4 teams don't get a lot of sacks out of their ends. Aside from Richard Seymour, I can't think of another 3-4 DE that is very successful in pressuring the QB. We still need another rusher across from Rak. Wilson is a lot more likely to have an impact in our new scheme, as a rusher, than Jarmon is.

[letzgoterps]

Bank on us trying to get Dansby before Peppers. Loads more potential imo and younger.

[The Cowboy Bamma Rocker]

For everyone banking on Jarmon, I worry you'll be disappointed, especially if you are banking on him as a pass rusher...................The point is, even if Jarmon Pans out most 3-4 teams don't get a lot of sacks out of their ends.

That's the thing, there is more to the position than sacks. Take Philip Daniels for instance. Great run stopper. Sack machine? No. You can't have pure pass rush or you'll get run over every game. You need a good mix of player styles on your defense.

[Jeff in D.C.]

For everyone banking on Jarmon, I worry you'll be disappointed, especially if you are banking on him as a pass rusher. Rushing the passer wasn't Jarmon's specialty in college, although he did have one good year in which he posted 9 sacks.


A few things you have to keep in mind about Jarmon - first, don't really pay attention to sack numbers in college, there are too many variables. The offenses are much different and it's harder to get sacks, especially in the SEC. QB's in the SEC are normally very gifted athletically, which helps them avoid pass rushers. The offenses in the SEC are also such that most QB's set up from the shotgun and get rid of the ball immediately to a speedy playmaker. And since Jarmon was probably UK's best pass rusher, he probably got double-teamed a ton. You also have to look at his QB pressures & hurries in college (I don't know what they were off hand). Plus we don't know what the coaches asked him to do and what his specific responsibilities were. He's a raw talent that can develop into a pretty good pass rusher with playing experience and the good coaching.

All of that said, an ACL is a big deal and we'll have to see how he is able to come back from it.

[21Knock_U_Out]

Bring in Peppers? You mean this guy?

http://thebrianpeppersong.ytmnd.com/




*viewer discretion advised

[[[ghost]]]

No thanks, old guy past his peak.

He's had 25 sacks the past two years. He's getting older, but don't make it seem like he's washed up now. He's still a better pass rusher than anyone on our team.

There's no problem in signing him to a shorter contract, regardless of the price since there is no Cap. Unless his contract costs so much that we have to pass on a couple other quality players.

He's 30. If we can get another two years out of him, he'd help make the transition to a 3-4 much simpler if he can contribute in that system.

[Riggins77]

];7265886']He's had 25 sacks the past two years. He's getting older, but don't make it seem like he's washed up now. He's still a better pass rusher than anyone on our team.

There's no problem in signing him to a shorter contract, regardless of the price since there is no Cap. Unless his contract costs so much that we have to pass on a couple other quality players.

He's 30. If we can get another two years out of him, he'd help make the transition to a 3-4 much simpler if he can contribute in that system.

Agreed. In a cap-less year, why in the blue hell would you not want him? The guy is an animal regardless if he takes plays off or not. That kind of production when you're taking some plays off is amazing.

[skins_4_life]

trade carter for peppers staight up...he said he want to play in a 3-4 anyway.

[Geoff_K]

];7265886']He's had 25 sacks the past two years. He's getting older, but don't make it seem like he's washed up now. He's still a better pass rusher than anyone on our team.

There's no problem in signing him to a shorter contract, regardless of the price since there is no Cap. Unless his contract costs so much that we have to pass on a couple other quality players.

He's 30. If we can get another two years out of him, he'd help make the transition to a 3-4 much simpler if he can contribute in that system.

I dont want 2 years, I want 8-10. A 1 or 2 year run where we are dominate then suck for 15 is not the way I want to go. I want a decade of dominance and we wont get there with 30's on the decline in ability. Youth is the way I hope we go from here on out.

[Skins2Win91]

i like peppers and think hes a great player but moves like this havent worked out in the past what would make them work out now? For the longest time i feel like the management (snyder & cerrato) have had there stuff all backwards. They look for these aging super starts pay them way to much money and they dont perform. Then they look to the draft for more quick fix type of players who wind up fading away and never working out. the moral of the story is look to the draft to build around for the future while filling the holes through smart free agency moves. so long story short lets pass on peppers.

[texasthunder]

i like peppers and think hes a great player but moves like this havent worked out in the past what would make them work out now? For the longest time i feel like the management (snyder & cerrato) have had there stuff all backwards. They look for these aging super starts pay them way to much money and they dont perform. Then they look to the draft for more quick fix type of players who wind up fading away and never working out. the moral of the story is look to the draft to build around for the future while filling the holes through smart free agency moves. so long story short lets pass on peppers.

Agreed.
Sure we could sign him to a two year deal, IF, he is willing to go that route, but I would guess since he is 30 yrs old, he will probally be looking for at least a 4 year deal.
And if we did sign him to the deal, and he doesnt put up decent numbers, then he falls into the D. Sanders/ A. Archulleta catagory.

[Ashburn Dave]

No to Peppers. This is a Snyder move not a true GM move. Need to focus on the whole and not just the individual.

[Fred Jones]

I think the two keys to bringing him in are:

1. Uncapped year
2. Pick up as FA and cost nothing.

First, he should cost the team nothing. If he does, easy no.
Second, since he won't come cheap, have to take advantage of the uncapped year and pay him up front money this year. If, a miracle happens, and we have a cap, then no. He is not worth taking up a lot of cap space.

Lastly, because we have so many more important needs and doubt we will be able to address Dline specifically this off season, why not bring him in if 1 and 2 are met.

[Laron Burgundy]

I think the two keys to bringing him in are:

1. Uncapped year
2. Pick up as FA and cost nothing.

First, he should cost the team nothing. If he does, easy no.
Second, since he won't come cheap, have to take advantage of the uncapped year and pay him up front money this year. If, a miracle happens, and we have a cap, then no. He is not worth taking up a lot of cap space.

Lastly, because we have so many more important needs and doubt we will be able to address Dline specifically this off season, why not bring him in if 1 and 2 are met.

This. If there is no cap and he doesn't cost us a pick, then getting him isn't wasting our resources on a declining player.

[DCskinFAN]

Can he play quarterback?

[vicrodjr]

Sorry, too much money and on his way down in terms of skill level. I would like to stay young on the lines.

[shannyman1]

The short answer here is that Peppers isn't going to tak a pay cut. He made more than Haynesworth last season so I don't think we can afford to put 35 million dollars per year into TWO players....unless one of them is a Pro Bowl quarterback.

[shannyman1]

Sorry, too much money and on his way down in terms of skill level. I would like to stay young on the lines.

well, its an uncapped year and Peppers could still outperform any of the YOUNG players on the line. The reason we don't want him is because you just can't keep bringing in high priced vets and alienate the rest of the team. I would rather have 11 really good players instead of 3 superstars and then a bunch of jealous teammates feeling underpaid and expressing their discontent with their play, their backbiting, and etc, etc. Thats just not the way to build team unity.

[21Knock_U_Out]

Can he play quarterback?

Or how about left tackle?

[pjfootballer]

Nah. He's a prima donna around Charlotte. I'd rather develop younger players. We're not going to the SB this year, so he wouldn't be in the plans.

[Morneblade]

Can he play quarterback?
Wrong:silly:

Or how about left tackle?
Right:point2sky

Seriously though. Nope, I wouldnt even sniff him at this point.

[TD Riggo]

Isn't Peppers about 67 years old now? Can he play without the Hovaround scooter?

I mean seriously .. have we NOT learned that players in the twilight of their career just LOVE to get themselves some Dan Snyder cash to pad their retirement?!

[veteranskinsfan]

On ESPN tonight they said Peppers will be let go by the Panthers. Peppers is playing tonight and he looks like he is in better shape than our $100 million dollar man. Peppers will cost only $20 million.

[KDawg]

Isn't picking up older veterans something this board consistently (and rightfully) held Vinny accountable for as a bad move?

So why then does the fact its an uncapped year mean anything? He's an older veteran. Let's try something different: Develop a player.

Signing Peppers would be doing the same ole same ole for this franchise. My guess is Shanahan and Allen are smarter than that. And I like Peppers. Just not in DC.

[SkinsBoss]

it's not my money and the only fan whose money it will cost is DannyBoy so if he wants to pay 20 plus for 3 years or whatever it is so be it....peppers in the 3-4 for the next 3 years would be awesome............and personally I could care less whether we draft players or sign players all I want is to win. If we had Peppers, Orakpo, London and Rocky as our LB's that would be awesome!

[Crazy Levi]

I didn't see this post anywhere and if I missed it sorry guys. I just want to see what people think since Carolina will probably let him go because he will be costing them over 20 million dollars to franchise tag him because he is up for like a 20 percent raise. I don't know how he would fit in if we switched to a 3-4 defense. Let me know what you guys think.

I think bringing in a high priced free agent superstar savior like this at any cost is just the kind of fresh thinking that this organization needs!

Let's do it!

[KDawg]

Is it possible to fire fans for thinking the same way that Vinny did... When these same fans were some of the many screaming for his head?

[hellonothing86]

id say no thanks to bringin him here.. I wouldn't mind seeing a DE drafted in the later rounds for depth

[skins2victory]

I think Peppers would be even more destructive in a 3-4. Our LB depth would be outstanding, heck ya I would like to have him here. He will be expensive though.

[SkinsMaster88]

Peppers is 30. He'll cost a ton of money. We need to focus on building the team foundations, not give massive contracts to players on the wrong side of 30. In an ideal world, yeah, Peppers and Orakpo would be an amazing combo of 3-4 rush LBs. However, this team has plenty of other problems that'll just get exacerbated with spending tons on Peppers. Even with no cap this year, it'll be back with a new CBA. You have all your money concentrated on a few vets and you end up with the problems we've had for the last 10 years.

Pass.

[4skins23]

An obvious upgrade, but its not where we need to be focused.

[evmiii]

Peppers for a 1 year deal during an uncapped season. Sounds good to me, but just a band aid.

[FrFan]

Snyder's wallet is burnin', powerful is the force on the dark side. :evilg:

[DaMuller7]

I didn't see this post anywhere and if I missed it sorry guys. I just want to see what people think since Carolina will probably let him go because he will be costing them over 20 million dollars to franchise tag him because he is up for like a 20 percent raise. I don't know how he would fit in if we switched to a 3-4 defense. Let me know what you guys think.

Ummmmmm it won't happen, so I don't think much of it... Does that answer you???

[MattFancy]

In an uncapped year, I wouldn't be surprised to see him here. I wouldn't mind that either!

[skinsfan190]

Ummmmmm it won't happen, so I don't think much of it... Does that answer you???
How do u figure it won't happen. I'm just sayn, Dan Snyder is still our owner.

O yeah, and it's a uncapped year. I won't put anything past him

[DaMuller7]

How do u figure it won't happen. I'm just sayn, Dan Snyder is still our owner.

O yeah, and it's a uncapped year. I won't put anything past him

They'll franchise tag him my friend. Every team will now get an extra franchise tag and an extra transition tag, so the Panthers will play games with everyone trying to go after him, which means we'd most likely have to give up picks for him.... If you can think of a better way to get Peppers, I'm all ears!!!

[RabidFan]

Uncapped year sign him to a 4yr deal with 90% of money paid in uncapped year.

[MassSkinsFan]

How do u figure it won't happen. I'm just sayn, Dan Snyder is still our owner.

O yeah, and it's a uncapped year. I won't put anything past him

To hear people closer to the FO tell it, Snyder has provided the cash and been the persuasive deal-closer, but the real force behind fantasy football offseason acquisitions was Vinny. I'm not so sure I believe that either, but let's see what happens this offseason.

With Shanahallen we might see the end of the Offseason Champions trend.

If we don't need him, let's not get him.

[Rodriggo]

Baggage, huge salary, veteran, haven't we been down this road before?

That's not a good combination around here.

[redskin301]

If we get peppers and stay in the 4-3 our Dline would be orakpo haynsworth griffen and peppers that's scary

[skinsfan190]

They'll franchise tag him my friend. Every team will now get an extra franchise tag and an extra transition tag, so the Panthers will play games with everyone trying to go after him, which means we'd most likely have to give up picks for him.... If you can think of a better way to get Peppers, I'm all ears!!!
There are not going to franchise him again. There aren't gonna pay the man 23 million for 1 year.

I'm not even going by the many reports that says this i'm just going common bussiness sense.

[Redskin Nut]

I would say to pick him up. He would be the best 3-4 DE that we would have. Yes he is 30 I just would not sign him for a lengthy contract like the snyderetto era would have. Everyone wants to draft their own peppers but that is easier said than done. If it was so easy we would have done it already plus we have a lot of holes to fill in this years draft and so few picks to do it with. Peppers would be a temp spot until we draft that guy or develop Jarmon, which may take time. Carter is going to play olb and could you imagine him playing besides Haynesworth!

[[[ghost]]]

I don't think anyone can be against this move so long as it doesn't truly hurt us from concentrating on our biggest weakness- the OL.

It won't cost us a draft pick. So long as his contract doesn't prevent us from signing key FAs elsewhere, that shouldn't be a problem either.

But if we do switch to a base 3-4 or even a hybrid, Peppers mainly wanted to come in to a 3-4 to play OLB, not DE. He thought he could be like the edge rushers in Pitt, because unlike DeMarcus Ware and Shawne Merriman, Woodley and Harrison are power edge rushers.

If that's the case, than we would be taking a huge risk, adopting a new scheme and signing an expensive aging player to play a position he's never played before.

[Wild West]

I'd love to see it. Face it, one of the benefits of having Snyder as an owner is he isn't afraid to spend money to bring in talent. With an uncapped year, it should be even easier for him to outbid other teams. If he frontloads the contract to give most of the money this year, the contract wouldn't hurt us long-term. However, if we brought him in that means we'd probably be moving Andre Carter, since they'd play the same position (and Orakpo isn't going anywhere).

[DaMuller7]

There are not going to franchise him again. There aren't gonna pay the man 23 million for 1 year.

I'm not even going by the many reports that says this i'm just going common bussiness sense.

I guarantee you that they will franchise tag him and try to trade him. All I'm saying is that they are not going to let their best player (probably ever in that franchise) to hit the open market, NO WAY.

[Flycoach]

If he was going to be even 28, instead of 30, I'd be cool with it - especially in an uncapped year (possibly). But 30 is (usually) when elite players start to go down the other side of the mountain, IMHO.