The most ironic thing about redskins freeagency

[21cents]

Anyone else find it ironic. How the redskins go for pretty much every freeagent superstar. But the one that really mattered we skipped on him?
Drew Brees is perhaps the best freeagent in the history of NFL and we werent even interested in him. What pisses me off even more is because mark freakin brunell was the reason because of that.

[HighOnHendrix]

:munchout:

I love watching trainwreck threads!

[Warhead36]

Actually Jason Campbell was the reason. Brees was a FA in 2006. We had spent a ton of draft picks the year before moving up to draft Campbell. Had we not done that, we would have had more than enough money to go after Brees(in 06 we ended up spending that money on Andre Carter, Antwan Randle El, Brandon Lloyd, and Adam Archuleta. Epic mother ****in fail!).

Of course hindsight is 20/20. Campbell was a hot young prospect and Brees was coming off a major shoulder injury. On top of that we were coming off a nice playoff run in 2005 and I would guess most people didn't consider the QB a weakness.

[The Cowboy Bamma Rocker]

Actually Jason Campbell was the reason. Brees was a FA in 2006. We had spent a ton of draft picks the year before moving up to draft Campbell. Had we not done that, we would have had more than enough money to go after Brees(in 06 we ended up spending that money on Andre Carter, Antwan Randle El, Brandon Lloyd, and Adam Archuleta. Epic mother ****in fail!).

Of course hindsight is 20/20. Campbell was a hot young prospect and Brees was coming off a major shoulder injury. On top of that we were coming off a nice playoff run in 2005 and I would guess most people didn't consider the QB a weakness.


You can also contribute that to Joe Gibbs. Campbell had the physical tools Gibbs was looking for that Brees doesn't have (note: I'm not saying Campbell is better than him by any means)

[21cents]

Actually Jason Campbell was the reason. Brees was a FA in 2006. We had spent a ton of draft picks the year before moving up to draft Campbell. Had we not done that, we would have had more than enough money to go after Brees(in 06 we ended up spending that money on Andre Carter, Antwan Randle El, Brandon Lloyd, and Adam Archuleta. Epic mother ****in fail!).

Of course hindsight is 20/20. Campbell was a hot young prospect and Brees was coming off a major shoulder injury. On top of that we were coming off a nice playoff run in 2005 and I would guess most people didn't consider the QB a weakness.
Campbell was not the reason. Gibbs already said he would play campbell for 2-3 years. Only reason campbell got to play his 2nd year is because redskins had horrible start a no playoff hopes.

Brees was a 28 year old qb coming off a injury. I dont think it would have had much effect on campbell. The original plan was to sit campbell 3 years or so. Brees could have been given a chance to play for us couple years if it didnt workout we would just play campbell. Brunell was the reason we didnt make the move.

[LaRonDontLikeUgly]

Brees is an over-achiever. We don't take kindly to those types of folks around these parts.

[blindlywewander]

Campbell was not the reason. Gibbs already said he would play campbell for 2-3 years. Only reason campbell got to play his 2nd year is because redskins had horrible start a no playoff hopes.

Brees was a 28 year old qb coming off a injury. I dont think it would have had much effect on campbell. The original plan was to sit campbell 3 years or so. Brees could have been given a chance to play for us couple years if it didnt workout we would just play campbell. Brunell was the reason we didnt make the move.

pretty sure campbell was the reason. you don't draft a dude in the first round then go out and sign a big free agent qb. i get the injury argument, but brees was still a big name and a successful player at that point in his career. you either draft a guy to start or sign a guy to start. it's one or the other. we drafted campbell.

[SkinSince87]

who cares he's not here get over it

[scruffylookin]

who cares he's not here get over it

I agree with this. Anyone really think Drew Brees would do anything here? He would have been on IR with the oline we have had since 06.

[Harwich Hog]

I agree with this. Anyone really think Drew Brees would do anything here? He would have been on IR with the oline we have had since 06.

I disagree with this.

The OL in 06 and 07 wasn't bad at all. And we could have used some of the draft picks we spent upgrading positions we thought were deficient (because of poor QB play) on the OL when it was required (at the start of the 08 season).

... except we wouldn't have because Cerrato was calling the shots.

[KDawg]

There's nothing guaranteeing that Brees would have succeeded here (or vice versa). So dwelling on this just seems like a bad idea.

I agree with SkinSince87.

[LD0506]

There's nothing guaranteeing that Brees would have succeeded here (or vice versa). So dwelling on this just seems like a bad idea.

I agree with SkinSince87.

Exactly, we might have spent a lot of $$ killing Brees' career if he had come here. We are SO much more than this QB or that DE away from being a genuinely competitive team. I have my fingers crossed that the atmosphere KDawg mentioned elsewhere changes so that we can get the most out of the roster.

[Soup]

EditL: nevermind

[Gibbs Hog Heaven]

who cares he's not here get over it

"If ifs and buts were candy's and nuts, we'd all have a merry Christmas"

Never thought I'd either think of that phrase, or get it into a post, so I thank the Op for the opportunity. :D.

Time to stop dwelling on the past and what might of been; and look to our bright new future and what might well be. ;).

Hail.

[SWFLSkins]

Drew Brees was a huge gamble at the time, and the NO Saints appear to do well with huge gambles.


And really is that the most ironic thing about Redskin F/A? I think not.

[Hitman21ST]

I disagree with this.

The OL in 06 and 07 wasn't bad at all. And we could have used some of the draft picks we spent upgrading positions we thought were deficient (because of poor QB play) on the OL when it was required (at the start of the 08 season).

... except we wouldn't have because Cerrato was calling the shots.

Poor quarterback play made the deficient receivers drop balls? I could have sworn that on his first throw to Brandon Lloyd, the Jason Campbell pass was picture perfect, and he just (literally) dropped the ball. Now, Campbell hasn't been a rock at quarterback, but the receivers were deficient because they weren't that good. We didn't need to spend three picks on receivers/tight ends, but we did need an upgrade there.

[BuryYourDuke]

Brees would have sucked here. Doesn't matter though, we didn't get him.

[CooleyKnight]

He probably would've been a bust is we came here. Vinny probably would've tried to make him become a left handed QB because he thought it fit our skill set better.

[Battledragun]

I'm glad Brees didn't come here, with no o-line help he probably would have had a short career then I'd have to listen to everyone whine about how he sucks.

[Old Bay]

I'm sure Miami has this same thought, but there's no sense on dwelling on it.

[Blue Collar Skins]

I am sorry I am still trying to get over that we did not draft Peyton Manning, Ray Lewis, Troy Palamalu, Adrian Peterson, Desean Jackson, etc.

:doh:

[Muzzah]

the Saints have a better O-Line, Receivers, running back tandem. If Brees were here, I don't think he would have had the same success.

[S.T.real,lights,out]

I agree with this. Anyone really think Drew Brees would do anything here? He would have been on IR with the oline we have had since 06.

That sums it up!

[John Lydon]

I am sorry I am still trying to get over that we did not draft Peyton Manning, Ray Lewis, Troy Palamalu, Adrian Peterson, Desean Jackson, etc.

:doh:

This is classic! I would like to nominate this for post of the week. Priceless! It will also become my new sig.

[skinsdude]

Actually Jason Campbell was the reason. Brees was a FA in 2006. We had spent a ton of draft picks the year before moving up to draft Campbell. Had we not done that, we would have had more than enough money to go after Brees(in 06 we ended up spending that money on Andre Carter, Antwan Randle El, Brandon Lloyd, and Adam Archuleta. Epic mother ****in fail!).

Of course hindsight is 20/20. Campbell was a hot young prospect and Brees was coming off a major shoulder injury. On top of that we were coming off a nice playoff run in 2005 and I would guess most people didn't consider the QB a weakness.

Campbell was the "hot young prospect" to Joe Gibbs. I'm not sure that he was to anyone else. If the Skins had not come along, Jason would have gone in the second round, just as he should have. He is yet another player that we gave up too much to acquire.

[Hiro]

Gee. We haven't discussed THIS before. :doh:

As others have mentioned, it would have made zero sense for us to pursue Brees at the time because we had just drafted Jason Campbell, who was a complete unknown at the time.

C'est la vie. :whoknows:

[Seabee1973]

I agree with this. Anyone really think Drew Brees would do anything here? He would have been on IR with the oline we have had since 06.


Those 2 third rounders we spent on Brunell and cooley would have gotten a decent pick on the line

[SkinzFoLife]

Since "Irony" is the most misused word in the english dictionary... I will go with this.
Free Agency is Ironic because its far from being "Free"

[PorkSkins]

We gave up on Stan Humphries too and let him go to San Diego. He led the Chargers to the SB. But, Rypien stayed, and he won a SB.

[Box76]

Exactly, we might have spent a lot of $$ killing Brees' career if he had come here. We are SO much more than this QB or that DE away from being a genuinely competitive team. I have my fingers crossed that the atmosphere KDawg mentioned elsewhere changes so that we can get the most out of the roster.


Huh? Just because some other qb didnt have success here the last few years does not mean Brees would have had the same fate. Its not like NO was some juggernaut chock full of talent that Brees luckily fell into. His play and leadership is probably reason #1 for their turnaround. If only we were so lucky to have landed him.

[paloffs]

Since "Irony" is the most misused word in the english dictionary... I will go with this.
Free Agency is Ironic because its far from being "Free"
I don't see anything wrong with how the OP used the word ironic.

The Redskins were known for grabbing big names from free agency to solve all of their problems. However, a big name (Drew Brees was doing great with the Chargers) was there for a position we truly needed and we didn't even acknowledge Brees.

What you said is ironic as well... but in a different context. You're associating the term free agency for literal purposes (more like a pun). The OP was associating irony with our staffing strategy.

[Blue Collar Skins]

I don't see anything wrong with how the OP used the word ironic.

The Redskins were known for grabbing big names from free agency to solve all of their problems. However, a big name (Drew Brees was doing great with the Chargers) was there for a position we truly needed and we didn't even acknowledge Brees.

What you said is ironic as well... but in a different context. You're associating the term free agency for literal purposes (more like a pun). The OP was associating irony with our staffing strategy.

An old man turned ninety-eight
He won the lottery and died the next day
It's a black fly in your Chardonnay
It's a death row pardon two minutes too late
Isn't it ironic ... don't you think

It's like rain on your wedding day
It's a free ride when you've already paid
It's the good advice that you just didn't take
Who would've thought ... it figures

:silly:

[mbws]

An old man turned ninety-eight
He won the lottery and died the next day
It's a black fly in your Chardonnay
It's a death row pardon two minutes too late
Isn't it ironic ... don't you think

It's like rain on your wedding day
It's a free ride when you've already paid
It's the good advice that you just didn't take
Who would've thought ... it figures

:silly:



None of that is Ironic. It is Sardonic.

[Crazy Levi]

There is absolutely nothing ironic about that.

[HighOnHendrix]

This thread still lives? Good gawd.

[Blue Collar Skins]

None of that is Ironic. It is Sardonic.

No sir, it IS Ironic....the name of the song by Alanis Morrisset. :silly:

[pjfootballer]

Drew Brees was a huge gamble at the time, and the NO Saints appear to do well with huge gambles.


And really is that the most ironic thing about Redskin F/A? I think not.

Actually the worst thing about F/A and the Redskins is we never get our moneys worth. We pay people and then they suck.

[SoCalSkins]

Passing on Favre was also a huge mistake.

[icbmayday]

I think our old free agency tactics will vastly change with Allen and Shanny being here

[mbws]

No sir, it IS Ironic....the name of the song by Alanis Morrisset. :silly:

Yes, You are right...that it is the name of her song.


But...wait for it...






























...She is wrong.