Would you be willing to trade up for Ndamukong Suh‎?

[walker77]

Yes I know about the needs on the O Line and other areas of the team but as you all know this guy is a monster! I dont see him dropping down to 4th (but who would have though Orakpo would have fallen as well?) and the only way practical way I can see getting him is by trading up.

My questions are:

1. Would you want to see the skins trade up to get him?

2. What do you think we would have to give up to get him?

[jasjhughes]

hell no!!!!!

[aubreyjn]

what he said

[Gibbs Hog Heaven]

What they said.

Hail.

[Mr. Sinister]

Suh is'nt going past Detroit. We're too weak at key positions to trade up and subsequently give up more draft picks. It would be great if he fell to us though. We would have MAJOR leverage with the other teams.

[SkinsHokieFan]

In any other year but this year I would. I think the guy could be a Lawrence Taylor type player at DT.

However we don't have the ammunition, we already have AH, and have way too many needs to fill to be moving up

[Manny555]

What everyone else is saying!!

[Hitman#21]

I would trade up, not for Suh though...

[Hiro]

If we hadn't signed Haynesworth to that monster contract last season, I would've said hell yes. But no, we have alot more things to worry about. Drafting another defensive player high is NOT the way to go this year IMO.

[BigMike21]

No way we would have like $150 million at DT between him and Haynesworth!

[killerbee99]

NayNayNayNayNayNayNayNayNayNayNay

[GhostofSparta]

I'm gonna continue the general concensus and say "no." If he fell to us, I could understand us drafting him, but trading up should be entirely out of the quesiton.

[McD5]

Walker, why would you even consider this?

[Enter Apotheosis]

Trading up for anyone would be a huge mistake, IMO.

[Mr. Sinister]

Another thing I forgot to say is that Suh is more of a raw power fill gaps and stop the run kind of guy more than a pass rush type because of his hands, although I still think he will dominate. He'll have to learn how to develop different pass rush techniques in his first season .

[bushwack]

First of HELL ****ING NO!

Also, I don't why you put in the part about Orakpo falling. Orakpo was a great DE coming out of college, whose draft status kept rising; however, he wasn't a consensus top 2 pick, who has been touted as one of the best prospects in 30 years like Suh has been.

[jflow78]

I would trade up, so someone else could give us more than what we traded away, to trade down. Somehow I doubt that would happen.

I think trading up with the intent to take Suh might be the worst thing we could do in this draft. I'd even rather take Berry than trade up to get Suh. I don't want to trade up and I don't want a defensive player at #4, let alone a DT.

Sooooo:
1. No
2. Our dignity.

[mel25]

i actually want us to get suh if he falls to us, but i wouldn't want us to trade up to get him.

[skinsfan190]

Unbelievable player, but absolutely NOT. Lets be serious. We need a whole new offensive line, QB, and RB before we can think about anything else

[Laxpunk2006]

If Danny boy has used some of his money to buy a time machine so that ShanahAllen know for a fact that Suh will be a John Randle/Warren Sapp type DT then let's do it. Trade whatever it takes.

If such a time machine has not be purchased, I don't think it would be a great idea.

[SoulRebel]

I wouldn't agree with trading up for him as I think the 'Skins need to plug the holes on the O-line first and foremost. However, if Suh fell to the fourth pick, and if the best OT picks went in the the first three picks, Suh would be a good pick. Yes we need a lot more help in many other positions, but they guy is a beast. He would definitely help this team for years to come. While he would be a great addition, the 'Skins shouldn't trade up for him.

[icbmayday]

Absolutely not if he fell to us you would have to consider it though........And then take a OT after considering it lol

[Muzzah]

Only if all we have to give up is Haynesworth.

[NewCliche21]

This is literally the dumbest draft idea that I've ever seen. In the OP, you acknowledge that we have needs at least SIX other areas, but you not only want to draft Suh; you want to trade up?

I mean, wow. Dumbest idea I've ever heard.

[chaaarmndr]

dude, seriously?

c'mon man

[HailGreen28]

Hell no.

I hope we get a great offer to trade down, personally.

[ciresolstice]

If he is there at 4 and there is no partner to trade down, I'd take him..if not, no..wouldn't trade up.

[wvtbred]

No thanks plenty of value in the draft and FA to fit Shanny's scheme.

[[[ghost]]]

I think you should have posed the question differently.

I think we'd get a wider variety of answers if it read:

"If you KNEW that Suh was going to become the most dominant DT to ever play the game, would you trade up to get him?"

In that case, most people would imagine a DL with him, Haynesworth, Orakpo, and Carter, and probably ejaculate in their pants.


This is literally the dumbest draft idea that I've ever seen. In the OP, you acknowledge that we have needs at least SIX other areas, but you not only want to draft Suh; you want to trade up?

I mean, wow. Dumbest idea I've ever heard.

**** that.

I think we should trade our #4 and Orakpo for the #6 selection from teh Seahawks.

Yes, I'm suggesting that we give up our best young player in order to trade DOWN.

How about that?

[Braxford]

No to trading up. The Skins if they stay at four need to get a player who will be an immediate impact starter. Not saying Suh is not a beast but the Skins need impact players on the offense at OLine, possibly QB and RB. The defense is fine. Even the Ravens who had a dominant D in 2000 needed an OLine to at least open holes for Lewis to run through.

Now if he is there at four and we cannot trade down, Skins should grab him, he is too good to pass up.

[NewCliche21]

];7291870']
**** that.

I think we should trade our #4 and Orakpo for the #6 selection from teh Seahawks.

Yes, I'm suggesting that we give up our best young player in order to trade DOWN.

How about that?

HAhahaha, you win that one.

[Kindred]

but..but defense wins championships???

[Veretax]

In any other year but this year I would too. just saying.

[Buck812]

Trading up for anyone would be a huge mistake, IMO.


Exactly.. I would love to have him but I wouldnt trade up for anyone in this draft.

[Archangel1750]

Defense has been the focus of much of our drafting the last couple of years and look where that got us...NOWHERE! We ahve had a strong showing on defense for the past couple of years and have ranked consistently in the top 5. Our weakness is in our offensive side of the ball. QB is not the main concern. O-line is our most pressing need. Not even Peyton Manning could do very well without proper protection nor Walter Peyton without good solid run blocking. We need to address O-line in free agency and the draft at #4 if possible. Give us a solid line to get rolling on offense, and sustain drives so our defense isn't on the field "24/7" and our overall record will reflect a winning season and possible playoff berths. Plain and simple!

[KevinthePRF]

No to trading up, I'd feel different if Haynesworth weren't on the team. Too much invested in the position already.

That being said if something happens like he gets popped for weed between now and April ala Warren Sapp and he falls to us, he's my pick.

[Hitman21ST]

We already have the #4 pick, we would have to give that up and something else to trade up. That's an absolutely atrocious idea. We need to trade down, and get more picks, not less. With the 4th pick we would definitely get two, might even get 3 picks for it. Especially when D line (for a change) isn't one of our glaring needs.

[DaMuller7]

Definitely would not after investing so much in Haynesworth...

[Stugein]

There is nobody in this draft that I would trade UP for.

[E-Dog Night]

Even if he inexplicably fell to #4 I would prefer that the Redskins find a team willing to trade a boatload of picks in order to move up and take him.

[NewCliche21]

Even if he inexplicably fell to #4 I would prefer that the Redskins find a team willing to trade a boatload of picks in order to move up and take him.

I dunno. If we have the guy who we want still on the board, then I would just take our guy.

EDIT: Our guy =\= Suh.

[Chicken Fried]

I still say he's overrated. I just can't put my finger on what it is.

[Blue Collar Skins]

While I would LOVE Suh to go to the Redskins, I am against trading up for anyone in the draft if they are not a sure-fire Franchise QB. That being said, there is no sure-fire Franchise QB, so I would be against trading up at all, for anyone in this draft.

[Wild West]

Worst....thread....ever.....

[Brandon Lloyd Christmas]

LOL, trade UP? so we trade extra picks or future picks to trade up to draft a guy that we have absolutely no need for, and we decide to lock up over $150 mil in one position with the worst offense over a decade and a new offensive minded head coach.

where do i sign??

[HailGreen28]

LOL, trade UP? so we trade extra picks or future picks to trade up to draft a guy that we have absolutely no need for, and we decide to lock up over $150 mil in one position with the worst offense over a decade and a new offensive minded head coach.

where do i sign??Danny, didn't you promise to step aside on stuff like this?

:silly:

[Morneblade]

LOL, trade UP? so we trade extra picks or future picks to trade up to draft a guy that we have absolutely no need for, and we decide to lock up over $150 mil in one position with the worst offense over a decade and a new offensive minded head coach.

where do i sign??

Stick to the JC threads BLC, at least you can pretend like you havent lost your mind there. Kinda.:silly:

I keed, I keed:evilg:

But yeah, I'm not sure if there is a WORSE move we could make.

[Redskinzfan30]

trading up for anyone would be a huge mistake, imo.

qft

[mistertim]

If somehow Suh fell to us I would be overjoyed. Not because I'd want us to pick him, but because we would probably have teams elbowing each other out of the way in order to make us offers to move up and get him. We could come away from that like bandits.

[Vooskin]

Yes I know about the needs on the O Line and other areas of the team but as you all know this guy is a monster! I dont see him dropping down to 4th (but who would have though Orakpo would have fallen as well?) and the only way practical way I can see getting him is by trading up.

My questions are:

1. Would you want to see the skins trade up to get him?

2. What do you think we would have to give up to get him?

To the part where you said who would have thought Orakpo would have fallen.

Apparently him falling to 13 means 12 other teams or one third the draft passed on him including four 3-4 teams. Obviously he was viewed as a 4-3 pass rushing DE. Not 3 down DE or 3-4 OLB. If he was either of those he would have went higher. What I find funny is how we are going to try to turn him into a 3-4 OLB yet multiple teams passed on him during the draft because they didnt feel he would be effective there.

#1. No. If he fell to us I'd want us to trade down to someone who really wants him. We have more pressing needs then DLINE. The only way you take him if he drops to us is if coaches truly believe he could be the best 3-4 NT in the league. If not, pass.

#2. Nothing.

[BadKarma]

Think the op is getting slammed here a little unfairly.

Suh is the monster in this draft and probably the only player that could be considered on another level above all else which makes him by far this most compelling and easy pick in this draft.

Indulge me in this scenario, so we know St Louis NEEDS a QB. Bulger is done and they are willing to take either Bradford or Claussen. Knowing the instability of their ownership they are looking to pinch a few pennies and take either QB as a franchise player as they know one if not both of Bradford / Claussen will be there for them at 4. Their front office also has had bad luck drafting regional Dlineman in the 1st round [carriker] and Sparrano has seen the impact of drafting a Qb in the success of a franchise from his time with the giants.

Our skins have a new FO and a new Hc who are looking to draft an impact player while not making a mistake that will marr the new regime, we know Shanny loves his dlineman and loves the idea of turing us into a 3-4. Given that Suh is projected as the prototype for a 3-4 end and we have the cash base to pay him the most expensive contract in the history of rookie deals I could see us making a push to make this deal happen.

If we could perhaps exchange 1st and 2nd rounders and add in carlos or a 2nd rounder next year for the rights to Suh i think it would benefit both parties. The only flaw in this scenario is that Kc isn't going to be looking QB at 5 either but given their money problems and lack of tradeable parts we may be the best option for St Louis to trade down for some value and still get what they want. The skins on the other hand get perhaps the biggest 3-4 cornerstone prospect to ever come out of the draft to spearhead the Hasslett implementation of the new defense and take on very little risk for trading up and giving away value as it gives Dan his non vanilla defense pillars for the next 10 years.

Sure its speculation but I see potential for this deal to happen and don't see it as too farfetched of an option for either team to want to make this a reality.

[Veretax]

Stick to the JC threads BLC, at least you can pretend like you havent lost your mind there. Kinda.:silly:

I keed, I keed:evilg:

But yeah, I'm not sure if there is a WORSE move we could make.


BLC was making fun of the idea of trading up I believe. He was in no way suggesting we should trade up for Suh.

[HailGreen28]

Stick to the JC threads BLC, at least you can pretend like you havent lost your mind there. Kinda.:silly:

I keed, I keed:evilg:

But yeah, I'm not sure if there is a WORSE move we could make.BLC made a good sarcastic post there. Hey, how's this for a worst move:

Let's party like it's 1999! (almost literally). At corner: let's bench Rogers and pay big $ to bring in Terrence Newman from Dallass, and have Newman give a big press conference where he says "it's not about the money". Then let Orakpo and Devin Thomas go to the Eagles, and bring in Kiwanuka from a NY team. (again to big $).

Championship! Woo Hooo!

[Morneblade]

BLC was making fun of the idea of trading up I believe. He was in no way suggesting we should trade up for Suh.


BLC made a good sarcastic post there. Hey, how's this for a worst move:


Championship! Woo Hooo!

God, you guys are worse on internetz sarcasm than I am.

WTF did you think the "I keed" meant? As in I kid (Kidding):doh:
I at least attempted to be obvious about it, and you guys still cant pick up on it.

Jesus Christ.........you guys need to lighten up.

[KirkNC]

No.

I would have just said no but 10 characters are required.

[Rex Tomb]

I'll gouge out my eyeballs if we take anything other than O-line or QB with our first pick.

[98BigBody]

we dont have the luxury to trade up for no player,but if Shu falls to us,draft him!! Shu,Big Al,Jarmon,Rakpo, wouldnt be fair even in a game of Madden.For all the people who dont want Shu,if we draft him..Let me be the first to get his jersey...Ah is no young man,In no way does drafting Shu hurts us.Shu will not be available though,come to think of it......Has a Dt ever been a first pick before? Really,can we see Romo playing against big Albert, and Shu twice a year? no way, too good to be true

[pjfootballer]

I'm joining the sentiment that we don't trade up for him. If he falls to us, I think long and hard for some offers.

[redskindan07]

Don't let Vinny post anymore threads on here

[S.T.real,lights,out]

Um NOOOOO!!!

[Santana_89]

http://www.un-scripted.com/blogs/alan/uploaded_images/PleaseMakeItStop-749714.jpg




Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

[Veretax]

God, you guys are worse on internetz sarcasm than I am.

WTF did you think the "I keed" meant? As in I kid (Kidding):doh:
I at least attempted to be obvious about it, and you guys still cant pick up on it.

Jesus Christ.........you guys need to lighten up.


ACtually I think I quoted the wrong post, I wasn't meaning to quote yours :(

[bulldog]

Let's see......an aging team with only 5 draft choices........do you trade up?

uh........no :D

[FinalBeast]

No. The d-line is fine.

[Morneblade]

actually i think i quoted the wrong post, i wasn't meaning to quote yours :(

np :D

[NVskinsfan]

Bad, no... not even bad question....just horrible!

Not NO, but HELL NO!

[walker77]

Seems like an appropriate time to resuract this thread.....Trade AH for Lions #1 pick? One can dream..............

[KTS3]

I don't understand this hoopla with trading up. We're desperate in the picks department and yet i see threads asking for a trade proposal.

We can't think "NORTH". Our only solutions should be East, West or encouragingly South.