View Full Version : This world is so screwed up, I don't know where to begin.
blue collar
February-15th-2010, 09:19 AM
Forget trying to be a good parent these days. My nephew spent Friday and Saturday over at a "friends." He came back on Sunday around noon. At around 1:30-2:00pm he went to sleep. He's pretty much been aleep ever since. It's 10:15am Monday as I type this. IMO, this isn't normal, so I called the DR. I spoke to the nurse and told her I wanted him tested for drugs. She tells me that only a DR can require a drug test. Why is that? She tells me that teens like to sleep and it's not really that unusual. I call BS. I don't care what anyone says, it's not normal to sleep almost 24 hours straight.
If any parent has reason to think that their kid is on something, they should have the authority to request that their kid get tested.
Capt. Kaos
February-15th-2010, 09:23 AM
Walmart and Target both sell drug tests.
They may not be 100% but atleast they will give you a clue or maybe even the sight of the test on the dining room table will open the lanes of communication.
DCSaints_fan
February-15th-2010, 09:24 AM
You've been watching him every minute? he could have gotten up at 2 AM, did stuff for a few hours then went back to sleep. I used to do that kind of thing from time when I was younger, and I never even hit took a hit of the wacky weed...
Burgold
February-15th-2010, 09:26 AM
I think a legal guardian can make it happen. Before you get too anxious, I do recall parties where I partied 48 hours straight without taking a drug or swallowing a drink. Then, when I finally stopped I crashed for a pretty long time as my body recovered.
If the child was raised correctly, he knows how to do the right thing (most of the time). That said, a parent's/guardian's instincts usually shouldn't be ignored. You know this kid.
blue collar
February-15th-2010, 09:27 AM
You've been watching him every minute? he could have gotten up at 2 AM, did stuff for a few hours then went back to sleep. I used to do that kind of thing from time when I was younger, and I never even hit took a hit of the wacky weed...
Unless he woke up between 3:00am-8:30am(the time I was sleep)
greenspandan
February-15th-2010, 09:29 AM
poor dude is probably exhausted and just trying to normalize after a bad trip and he's got some douchey relative skulking around looking to rat him out? that sucks.
Bang
February-15th-2010, 09:29 AM
Teenagers sleep. A lot.
Keep an eye on him but don't panic yet.
~Bang
blue collar
February-15th-2010, 09:30 AM
I think a legal guardian can make it happen. Before you get too anxious, I do recall parties where I partied 48 hours straight without taking a drug or swallowing a drink. Then, when I finally stopped I crashed for a pretty long time as my body recovered.
If the child was raised correctly, he knows how to do the right thing (most of the time). That said, a parent's/guardian's instincts usually shouldn't be ignored. You know this kid.
That's what I'm saying. I know him better than a DR. Has he been raised right? That's yes and no. He was actually raised pretty much by his mother and (God rest her soul) was not the best mother. When he came to live with me, I pretty much have tried to "reprogram" him. And let me tell you, that is almost impossible to do.
twa
February-15th-2010, 09:36 AM
As far as testing,you can get it done thru private companies w/o a Dr involved
You might be overeacting a bit though,since they can certainly stay up a long time and then crash
The home tests suggested might be wiser unless you have more reason to suspect other than the sleeping issue.
I do agree it is not a fear to simply dismiss
TheDoyler23
February-15th-2010, 09:39 AM
I had a few times as a teen when I was awake for 36+ hours and then crashed for a full day, and it wasn't because of drugs or alcohol.
blue collar
February-15th-2010, 09:41 AM
As far as testing,you can get it done thru private companies w/o a Dr involved
You might be overeacting a bit though,since they can certainly stay up a long time and then crash
The home tests suggested might be wiser unless you have more reason to suspect other than the sleeping issue.
I do agree it is not a fear to simply dismiss
As a parent, you rather overreact(which I probably am)than underreact. Another thing is the kid he was hanging with. I really didn't know him all that well but I heard from a family friend that he once had to be rushed to the hospital for alcohol poisoning.
twa
February-15th-2010, 09:48 AM
Talking with him likely will be more effective than any test imo
Try to treat him as a young adult rather than acting as a parole officer.
In the end it will be his choices that determine his life.
I'm not knocking your concerns at all btw, parenting sucks at times.
blue collar
February-15th-2010, 09:50 AM
Talking with him likely will be more effective than any test imo
Try to treat him as a young adult rather than acting as a parole officer.
In the end it will be his choices that determine his life.
I'm not knocking your concerns at all btw, parenting sucks at times.
I'm gonna take your advice.
Corcaigh
February-15th-2010, 09:53 AM
Help the kid make the right choices.
Tell him about your concerns for his well being.
And kids do sleep for an awfully long time. Your thread title looks like a huge over reaction.
Prosperity
February-15th-2010, 09:55 AM
Forget trying to be a good parent these days. My nephew spent Friday and Saturday over at a "friends." He came back on Sunday around noon. At around 1:30-2:00pm he went to sleep. He's pretty much been aleep ever since. It's 10:15am Monday as I type this. IMO, this isn't normal, so I called the DR. I spoke to the nurse and told her I wanted him tested for drugs. She tells me that only a DR can require a drug test. Why is that? She tells me that teens like to sleep and it's not really that unusual. I call BS. I don't care what anyone says, it's not normal to sleep almost 24 hours straight.
If any parent has reason to think that their kid is on something, they should have the authority to request that their kid get tested.
you can buy THC detection tests at CVS or online (pretty easy to find I think)
He's not necessarily on drugs though, he may just be a POS
Henry
February-15th-2010, 10:04 AM
I remember when I was 17 I was out all night partying with my friends for New Years. We got good and drunk and I rolled in back home about 7 in the morning completely hung over and exhausted. My mom looked at me and said 'Are you ok? You look awful.' For all she knew I was spending the night at a friend's house playing video games and watching movies. I just told her I was ok and needed to sleep in a little.
She let me sleep for about an hour.
Then she came in to my room and started vacuuming. When I finally acknowledged that I was awake she asked me to finish vacuuming the upstairs so she could do some work downstairs. She was so cheerful and happy and never once accused me of anything. After that my dad asked me if I could drive to Maryland and pick up my Grandmother (about an hour each way.) Mercifully my big sister, who knew what was up, volunteered to go with me and drove, laughing hysterically at me the whole way as I leaned out the open window and tried not to ralph. Once we got home my dad asked me to bring some wood in for the fireplace.
When I was done with that he offered me some eggnog.
Anyway, I think you get the picture.
And that was the first and last time I ever came home hung over.
Thiebear
February-15th-2010, 10:22 AM
I got wasted and slept all the time as a teenager.. its probaby nothing.
edit: ohhhh, nm.
WVUforREDSKINS
February-15th-2010, 10:27 AM
TWA is right. Let it go.
2nd time talk to him about it.
And thats only if there is a 2nd time
twa
February-15th-2010, 10:29 AM
She let me sleep for about an hour.
Anyway, I think you get the picture.
And that was the first and last time I ever came home hung over.
:ols:
Brings back some memories
Reminding them of both consequences and responsibilities in both word and deed :cool:
added
I'm not advocating letting it go at all,but rather a different approach than testing and lecturing.
Your ability as a parent to impose your will is limited,teaching them the wisdom of right choices and your concern /love for them is the way to go.
WVUforREDSKINS
February-15th-2010, 10:36 AM
I also want to say that drugs/alcohol haven't been around for thousands of years for no reason.
Its when the negative affects outweigh the positive that some get help or end up.....
Your son is young, let it go, but if other situations seem to happen then you might need to take steps
zoony
February-15th-2010, 10:37 AM
My dad had a rule- you can scream with the eagles but you gotta get up with the rooster.
I still have nightmares about doing yardwork at 7 am on Saturday morning still sick from the night before.
I was very happy to move out of the house :ols:
Special K
February-15th-2010, 11:59 AM
Okay dude, you need to chill out. First of all, don't just assume your nephew is doing drugs because he has been sleeping a lot after a weekend with friends. I think demanding a drug test is going way overboard and will be very counterproductive. If my parents demanded a drug test everytime I slept too much, well, they'd be in the poorhouse right now, but that's besides the point. It would have completely shut me off; I would totally distance myself from them because I would be pissed off, and then they would never be able to get through to me and give me good advice.
Basically, they would have lost my trust because I would view them as enemies (even though obviously they aren't and would have been trying to help, but as a teenager I would have viewed them as the enemy), not advocates, confidants, or supporters. There's no way in heck I would've gone to them if a real problem ever came up because I'd just figure they'd accuse me of something or I'd be in trouble again.
I think you need to keep an eye on him. But I also think you need to open up dialogue with him as well. Get him to see you as someone who has his best interests at heart, someone who's not going to judge him and demand he piss in a cup everytime he rolls in after a weekend with friends...
Unless he's a skater...then he's definitely doing the ganja :ols:
When I was done with that he offered me some eggnog.
Anyway, I think you get the picture.
And that was the first and last time I ever came home hung over.
:ols: That's hilarious.
blue collar
February-15th-2010, 12:13 PM
Okay dude, you need to chill out. First of all, don't just assume your nephew is doing drugs because he has been sleeping a lot after a weekend with friends. I think demanding a drug test is going way overboard and will be very counterproductive. If my parents demanded a drug test everytime I slept too much, well, they'd be in the poorhouse right now, but that's besides the point. It would have completely shut me off; I would totally distance myself from them because I would be pissed off, and then they would never be able to get through to me and give me good advice.
Basically, they would have lost my trust because I would view them as enemies (even though obviously they aren't and would have been trying to help, but as a teenager I would have viewed them as the enemy), not advocates, confidants, or supporters. There's no way in heck I would've gone to them if a real problem ever came up because I'd just figure they'd accuse me of something or I'd be in trouble again.
I think you need to keep an eye on him. But I also think you need to open up dialogue with him as well. Get him to see you as someone who has his best interests at heart, someone who's not going to judge him and demand he piss in a cup everytime he rolls in after a weekend with friends...
Unless he's a skater...then he's definitely doing the ganja :ols:
:ols: That's hilarious.
I kind of agree with you. But it's funny. As soon as a kid gets strung out on something and goes down the wrong path, the first thing EVERYONE wants to say is "where was the parents?" Or assume that their was no parenting. When a parent does show some concerns, they're jumping to conclusions. What is it gonna be?
Enter Apotheosis
February-15th-2010, 12:15 PM
IMO, this isn't normal, so I called the DR. I spoke to the nurse and told her I wanted him tested for drugs. She tells me that only a DR can require a drug test. Why is that? She tells me that teens like to sleep and it's not really that unusual. I call BS. I don't care what anyone says, it's not normal to sleep almost 24 hours straight.
Given just what you've said here, the only abnormal part of all of this was your reaction. keeastman summed up the consequences of your original plan of action pretty well.
blue collar
February-15th-2010, 12:19 PM
Given just what you've said here, the only abnormal part of all of this was your reaction. keeastman summed up the consequences of your original plan of action pretty well.
OK. Now who do you think gets the blame if he was on something? Again, it's always better to overract than to underreact. I talked to him and he confirmed he is not on anything.
twa
February-15th-2010, 12:26 PM
I kind of agree with you. But it's funny. As soon as a kid gets strung out on something and goes down the wrong path, the first thing EVERYONE wants to say is "where was the parents?" Or assume that their was no parenting. When a parent does show some concerns, they're jumping to conclusions. What is it gonna be?
There's a difference in showing concern and overreacting.
Talk with him and let him know you are concerned,yet leave open the avenue you are overeacting.
Kid might be getting sick or simply a growth spurt
Accusations and tests are counterproductive unless he is already down that path and you wish him in a program...you can't stop a addict or a fool.
blue collar
February-15th-2010, 12:28 PM
There's a difference in showing concern and overreacting.
Talk with him and let him know you are concerned,yet leave open the avenue you are overeacting.
Kid might be getting sick or simply a growth spurt
Accusations and tests are counterproductive unless he is already down that path and you wish him in a program...you can't stop a addict or a fool.
I see your point.
jpillian
February-15th-2010, 12:47 PM
I kind of agree with you. But it's funny. As soon as a kid gets strung out on something and goes down the wrong path, the first thing EVERYONE wants to say is "where was the parents?" Or assume that their was no parenting. When a parent does show some concerns, they're jumping to conclusions. What is it gonna be?
It certainly depends on the situation, but another thing to consider is perhaps limiting your nephew's unsupervised time away from the house. I'd be hesitant about allowing a teen to spend that much time (sounds liked a day and a half) completely unsupervised.
And by the sounds of it (your quoting of "friends" in the OP), if you don't know the kids he was spending time with, that may be another aspect worth additional attention.
Not intending to be pejorative, just some aspects that struck me and had not been addressed by other posters.
Regardless, good luck. Kids are tough, and it seems teens are even tougher. The kid's blessed to have an uncle that seems to care about his well-being. Keep up the good fight :cheers:
d0ublestr0ker0ll
February-15th-2010, 12:50 PM
This world is so screwed up, you don't know where to begin, so you think long and hard about it, and end up citing a teenager that has slept for 24 hours? Not mass hunger or crime, not war or torture, a teen that has slept for a long time. Let's put this in perspective, yes this is something to talk to him about, try to be positive and "on his team" blah blah blah. But c'mon with the friggen thread title.
IONTOP
February-15th-2010, 12:52 PM
I've been in the same situation... I would go to my best friends house on Fridays and come home Sunday as well... The only drugs I was doing was cigarettes and caffeine... We'd stay up all night watching aqua teen, playing video games, or playing World of Warcraft... Luckily my parents knew that I didn't do any drugs, they knew that I was going over there to smoke cigs (I could smoke inside at my friend's house)...
Those were some great nights, no illegal drugs touched.. And I would sleep from the time I got home until school started Monday morning...
P.S. How old is your nephew? Have you called the parents of the kid he was with and ask them what they were doing all weekend?
War Paint
February-15th-2010, 12:53 PM
Note to self. Don't crash at uncle Blue Collar's house if I want to go to a friend's party and chase skirts all night.:pfft:
Just kidding.
blue collar
February-15th-2010, 12:57 PM
This world is so screwed up, you don't know where to begin, so you think long and hard about it, and end up citing a teenager that has slept for 24 hours? Not mass hunger or crime, not war or torture, a teen that has slept for a long time. Let's put this in perspective, yes this is something to talk to him about, try to be positive and "on his team" blah blah blah. But c'mon with the friggen thread title.
I don't know if you're a parent or not and by your age, you definitely isn't a parent of a teen, but when you become one, get back to me. I see why so many parents are scared to say or do anything. They'd be looked at as the over protective parent if they say one word. But on the flipside, if they just ignore or show modest concern, they've failed as a parent in the public eye.
Enter Apotheosis
February-15th-2010, 12:58 PM
OK. Now who do you think gets the blame if he was on something? Again, it's always better to overract than to underreact. I talked to him and he confirmed he is not on anything.
If you're doing your best to be a positive influence then the only person that can be blamed if your nephew is on something is your nephew. All the drug tests in the world won't guarantee that he's going to keep off of whatever he may be on, most teens are awfully resourceful when push comes to shove and don't tend to respond well to ultimatums. Miscalculating your reaction in either direction is typically not a good thing. Whether underreacting or overreacting is more damaging will depend entirely on the individual and the situation.
Special K
February-15th-2010, 01:00 PM
I kind of agree with you. But it's funny. As soon as a kid gets strung out on something and goes down the wrong path, the first thing EVERYONE wants to say is "where was the parents?" Or assume that their was no parenting. When a parent does show some concerns, they're jumping to conclusions. What is it gonna be?
Well, first of all, I would say screw what other people say or think if they don't know the situation. People can say whatever they want, doesn't mean you have to listen to them or take what they say to heart.
Secondly, as TWA stated, there's a big difference between showing concern for the kid and completely overreacting (and mind you, I'm not a parent, I'm just talking about how I would have reacted as a teenager if my parents did something like this).
Honestly, if it were me and I was dealing with this with my own child, my first reaction would be to probably ask my kid if they were feeling okay. This way, it shows them that I am noticing something's up, but I'm not accusing them of anything, in fact, I'm giving them the benefit of the doubt and innocently making sure things are okay. Then, I'd base my next move off of how my kid responded to my inquiry.
Again, I don't have kids so I probably don't know what the heck I'm talking about and I'm sure I'll flip a gasket when my kids repay me the emotional trauma I'm sure I visited on my parents when I was a teen, and young adult....and even now, haha. But, just speaking in terms of conflict resolution in general, I've found it's never wise to come out of the gate lobbing accusations. That almost always ends with the person you are trying to communicate with immediately throwing up barriers and then nothing gets accomplished and the situation usually devolves into a massive cluster.
blue collar
February-15th-2010, 01:02 PM
I've been in the same situation... I would go to my best friends house on Fridays and come home Sunday as well... The only drugs I was doing was cigarettes and caffeine... We'd stay up all night watching aqua teen, playing video games, or playing World of Warcraft... Luckily my parents knew that I didn't do any drugs, they knew that I was going over there to smoke cigs (I could smoke inside at my friend's house)...
Those were some great nights, no illegal drugs touched.. And I would sleep from the time I got home until school started Monday morning...
P.S. How old is your nephew? Have you called the parents of the kid he was with and ask them what they were doing all weekend?
He's 18 so he's at the age where he's gonna make his own decisions. But that doesn't mean you stop being a parent. I did talk to him and he confirmed he's not on anything.
Hey, I was once a teen, but it's so different now. Add in the fact that my nephew is one of those kids that's a follower and is on medication. That's why I get concerned.
Special K
February-15th-2010, 01:12 PM
Hey, I was once a teen, but it's so different now. Add in the fact that my nephew is one of those kids that's a follower and is on medication. That's why I get concerned.
Aw, you sound like you really care about him. That's really nice to see...so many times these days you see parents or guardians just completely ignoring their kids, wrapped up in their own lives... so it's nice to see genuine concern.
Another thing, you mentioned your nephew is on medication. I'm not sure what type of medication he's on whether it's anti-depressants or something, but those do cause drowsiness in many people who take them. So that could also play a part in things too....
d0ublestr0ker0ll
February-15th-2010, 01:12 PM
I don't know if you're a parent or not and by your age, you definitely isn't a parent of a teen, but when you become one, get back to me. I see why so many parents are scared to say or do anything. They'd be looked at as the over protective parent if they say one word. But on the flipside, if they just ignore or show modest concern, they've failed as a parent in the public eye.
Oh no! You missed my point completely, and I still disagree with you. As we speak, kids are dying of hunger and, well, do I really have to get in to it? Your nephew sleeping for a long time isn't squat. No disrespect.
When it comes to the people I love I couldn't care less about how people perceive the approach I take to resolving issues. I've taken my 16 year old fatherless niece under my wing for the past 4 years. She was in to drugs and alcohol while wasting a ton of talent when it came to sports. It's been rough trying to straighten her out, but the least of my worries would be trying to balance how other people perceive my "parenting." I'm sure I've been deemed an ass by her at times; while other times I'm "cool." The key is that I have her respect and she knows she can trust me with the truth.
blue collar
February-15th-2010, 01:17 PM
Aw, you sound like you really care about him. That's really nice to see...so many times these days you see parents or guardians just completely ignoring their kids, wrapped up in their own lives... so it's nice to see genuine concern.
Another thing, you mentioned your nephew is on medication. I'm not sure what type of medication he's on whether it's anti-depressants or something, but those do cause drowsiness in many people who take them. So that could also play a part in things too....
He takes 27mg of concerta. It's one of those medications that helps him stay calm.
BigMike21
February-15th-2010, 01:20 PM
Another thing, you mentioned your nephew is on medication. I'm not sure what type of medication he's on whether it's anti-depressants or something, but those do cause drowsiness in many people who take them. So that could also play a part in things too....
It's true. I'm this clonazapam crap my doctor makes me take. I dunno what it is but it makes me sleepy as hell. I hate it.
Veretax
February-15th-2010, 01:46 PM
he was up late reading ES, and is probably going to laugh in about 48 h ours when he checks in and finds this thread lol ;)
KingGibbs
February-15th-2010, 02:00 PM
Okay. It's normal for teens to stay up for hours upon hours when in the company of friends. It's also normal for a teenager to catch up on sleep for hours upon hours.
That being said. I would suggest that YOU decide what is best for everyone involved. It's nice to get advice, but nobody has to deal with the consequences except YOU.
Always go with your gut intincts and those of you that are giving advice and don't even have children? You might think you know, but trust me, your own personal experiences won't compare to dealing with your child's trial and tribulations.
No Excuses
February-15th-2010, 02:04 PM
Marijuana doesn't make you sleep for close to 24 hours. If you think he's on drugs and he's sleeping an unusual amount, it might be due to LSD or shrooms. Hard trips can make a person sleep for abnormally long hours.
or he is just like any other teenage and loves to sleep... :ols:
dockeryfan
February-15th-2010, 02:09 PM
the mari-juana make you laazee
Teller
February-15th-2010, 02:11 PM
or he is just like any other teenage and loves to sleep... :ols:
You mean I was supposed to have grown out of that at some point? :ols:
RememberOsaka
February-15th-2010, 02:18 PM
I do recall parties where I partied 48 hours straight without taking a drug or swallowing a drink. Then, when I finally stopped I crashed for a pretty long time as my body recovered.
Of all the replies I found this one the most curious.
Kosher Ham
February-15th-2010, 02:24 PM
Of all the replies I found this one the most curious.
I would do something similar. I would bring my own six pack and take a sip and carry it around. Eventually leave it on a table somewhere, dump it, or give it to a girl, then go open a new one so they were always cold. I just didn't ever drink like that when I was younger. Now...totally the opposite. haha.
But I was never on a 2 day binge party at that age. I just made appearances at them would hang out for a while, then go home.
hkHog
February-15th-2010, 03:16 PM
This sounds like pretty normal teenage behavior to me. The first thing I thought was not "this kid is doing drugs" but rather "if you don't like this behavior why do you let him go out for two days completely unsupervised." This really doesn't make much sense to me.
Chopper Dave
February-15th-2010, 04:01 PM
Talking with him likely will be more effective than any test imo
Try to treat him as a young adult rather than acting as a parole officer.
In the end it will be his choices that determine his life.
I'm not knocking your concerns at all btw, parenting sucks at times.
This is the correct answer. You don't need to be his PO, his dad, his uncle, and a very non-familial Big Brother all at the same time. It'll smother him, and if he is using drugs, it'll just cause him to rebel more. BTW, how old is he? The reason I ask is, kids experiment with drugs. It happens. If he's 16, 17, 18ish, playing warden will just make it worse. If he's 13, you should probably get involved, quick.
LLandryistheshiz
February-15th-2010, 04:14 PM
24 hours? I do that at least twice a month. And no, i don't do drugs or drink. It's pretty common for a teenager to sleep like that.
addicted
February-15th-2010, 04:23 PM
WTF? Your nephew is tired and your so suspect you want him tested for drugs? Why don't you try TALKING to your child or better yet trusting him and not act like such a paranoid person for a change? Don't blame the world because your mental, look in the mirror. The kids I knew who would push the limits the furthest had parents just like you or worse. Some people never learn
Special K
February-15th-2010, 04:33 PM
WTF? Your nephew is tired and your so suspect you want him tested for drugs? Why don't you try TALKING to your child or better yet trusting him and not act like such a paranoid person for a change? Don't blame the world because your mental, look in the mirror. The kids I knew who would push the limits the furthest had parents just like you or worse. Some people never learn
Gee, that was a little harsh, don't ya think?
Maybe read through the thread before engaging in an all out assault... :whoknows:
Had you read through the thread, you might pick up the fact that Blue Collar seems to genuinely care for his nephew and is trying to do what's right. I think he even admitted that was an overreaction on his part and he ended up taking a different approach with his nephew.
MLSKINS
February-15th-2010, 04:36 PM
Man if there is still some food in the house and your nephew has a pulse I wouldn't even trip.
FWIW, I can't sleep for 24 hours, it always feels like I am missing something.
Major Harris
February-15th-2010, 04:41 PM
so, an uncle can't get a drug test he wants on his nephew. i don't see the problem here.
addicted
February-15th-2010, 04:55 PM
Gee, that was a little harsh, don't ya think?
Maybe read through the thread before engaging in an all out assault... :whoknows:
My post was edited because your right after I read it I thought I was being a dick. I apoliogize to him for that.
Had you read through the thread, you might pick up the fact that Blue Collar seems to genuinely care for his nephew and is trying to do what's right. I think he even admitted that was an overreaction on his part and he ended up taking a different approach with his nephew.
Great glad to hear it. People always forget that the tighter you hold onto people the more likely you are to lose them. When I was a child the kids who were the baddest on the block were the pastors/minister/tight ass parents. The more strict the parents were the more likely the kids were to revolt. If he cares about his nephew then before you go accusing him of drug use you better find some papers, a roach, or something substancial because otherwise your just acting like a dumbass in my opinion. And Drug testing children is dumb without cause, and sleeping sure isn't enough
SWFLSkins
February-15th-2010, 05:01 PM
Talking with him likely will be more effective than any test imo
Try to treat him as a young adult rather than acting as a parole officer.
In the end it will be his choices that determine his life.
I'm not knocking your concerns at all btw, parenting sucks at times.
This is exactly what I was thinking. Talk about choices and the consequences of those choices, and in the end, hey it's on them. You can't control another persons every move, nor would it help to try to.
'Skins_&_'Stons
February-15th-2010, 05:01 PM
THIS is why the world is so screwed up??? Wow, just wow.
blue collar
February-15th-2010, 05:07 PM
so, an uncle can't get a drug test he wants on his nephew. i don't see the problem here.
Well when the uncle is the kids "LEGAL" guardian.
blue collar
February-15th-2010, 05:11 PM
THIS is why the world is so screwed up??? Wow, just wow.
See, you're missing the point. The point is that they're saying that a Dr knows more about your kid than you do. I know him. The Dr do not. Heaven forbids if he takes something that makes him sick, get put in jail or worse, do you think the Dr's gonna lose any sleep?
twa
February-15th-2010, 05:42 PM
The Dr probably just didn't want involved,especially at that age where there is a conflict of rights.
stoney26
February-15th-2010, 06:47 PM
Ive never slept that long unless I got ****ed up on some sort of drug the day or two days before...He most likely did use something.
skinsfan07
February-15th-2010, 06:50 PM
He probably smoked some weed. Big deal. He's a teenager.
Major Harris
February-15th-2010, 06:52 PM
Well when the uncle is the kids "LEGAL" guardian.
my bad, missed that.
stoney26
February-15th-2010, 08:21 PM
He probably smoked some weed. Big deal. He's a teenager.
smoking weed doesnt put you out for 24 hours straight....and you couldnt stay up that long if you were just smoking bud....you would eat then pass the **** out. he might have been smoking weed but id bet money that he was doing something else if he slept for 24 hours straight.
Chopper Dave
February-15th-2010, 09:27 PM
smoking weed doesnt put you out for 24 hours straight....and you couldnt stay up that long if you were just smoking bud....you would eat then pass the **** out. he might have been smoking weed but id bet money that he was doing something else if he slept for 24 hours straight.
Yeah. He probably either did meth or ecstasy or some sort of psychedelic. If it's meth, it's a problem. If it's one of the others, and he's older 16 or 17 or basically just mentally not a child, it's not really a big deal as long as it's a one time (or even once in awhile) thing. The overall point is, don't just start waving around a piss dipstick and calling doctors and cops and the National ****ing Guard; talk to him like the young man he is. Level with him. Find out what he did, and if it becomes a regular thing, then start to worry.
mcsluggo
February-17th-2010, 10:52 AM
Forget trying to be a good parent these days. My nephew spent Friday and Saturday over at a "friends." He came back on Sunday around noon. At around 1:30-2:00pm he went to sleep. He's pretty much been aleep ever since. It's 10:15am Monday as I type this. IMO, this isn't normal, so I called the DR. I spoke to the nurse and told her I wanted him tested for drugs. She tells me that only a DR can require a drug test. Why is that? She tells me that teens like to sleep and it's not really that unusual. I call BS. I don't care what anyone says, it's not normal to sleep almost 24 hours straight.
If any parent has reason to think that their kid is on something, they should have the authority to request that their kid get tested.
teenagers need more sleep than just about any other group... nad often get the least amount. He easily could've just stayed up most of the time he was away (with or without alchohol/drugs) and just be recovering sleep. When I was in high school about once amonth I would come home from school and pretty much sleep through till school the next day (18 hours or so)...
mcsluggo
February-17th-2010, 10:54 AM
I kind of agree with you. But it's funny. As soon as a kid gets strung out on something and goes down the wrong path, the first thing EVERYONE wants to say is "where was the parents?" Or assume that their was no parenting. When a parent does show some concerns, they're jumping to conclusions. What is it gonna be?
no problems with you keeping vigilant... talk to the kid.
Koolblue13
February-17th-2010, 10:56 AM
A teenager sleeping for 24 hours, is hardly why the world is so screwed up.
I'd say not being able to talk to him and wanting to take him in for a drug test, because you don't know what he's doing, is closer to why this country is screwed up at least.
TheGreatBuzz
February-17th-2010, 11:01 AM
WTF? Your nephew is tired and your so suspect you want him tested for drugs? Why don't you try TALKING to your child or better yet trusting him and not act like such a paranoid person for a change? Don't blame the world because your mental, look in the mirror. The kids I knew who would push the limits the furthest had parents just like you or worse. Some people never learn
I think this is secretly from Blue Collars nephew!
No Excuses
February-17th-2010, 11:10 AM
He probably smoked some weed. Big deal. He's a teenager.
Weed will never put you out for 24 hours. If he was doing drugs, it was most likely a psychedelic. You can sleep for a crap load of time after doing LSD or shrooms. He can't be doing meth though.. You'd easily notice a pattern of incredibly odd behavior from him.
Koolblue13
February-17th-2010, 11:14 AM
Weed will never put you out for 24 hours. If he was doing drugs, it was most likely a psychedelic. You can sleep for a crap load of time after doing LSD or shrooms. He can't be doing meth though.. You'd easily notice a pattern of incredibly odd behavior from him.
He would have still been up Sunday for sure. And very sweaty.
blue collar
February-17th-2010, 11:51 AM
Right now, everything's fine. To the one's who say that maybe I ought to back off. I probably should have said this earlier, but my nephew is currently on probation. He gets caught doing stuff and he could finish the rest of his probation in jail. I'll also like to add that when he commited the crime to get on probation, he was living with his mom who took more of a hands off approach. Again, I worry a little more because he's on meds, he's a follower and he's on probation.
As a parent, I don't worry about being the "bad guy." Don't get me wrong, I'm not one of those parents that want an update on the kid 24/7 and don't let them leave the house. But I'm certainly is not someone you would call a "cool parent" either.
Koolblue13
February-17th-2010, 12:00 PM
Right now, everything's fine. To the one's who say that maybe I ought to back off. I probably should have said this earlier, but my nephew is currently on probation. He gets caught doing stuff and he could finish the rest of his probation in jail. I'll also like to add that when he commited the crime to get on probation, he was living with his mom who took more of a hands off approach. Again, I worry a little more because he's on meds, he's a follower and he's on probation.
Well, that kind of changes things just a tad.:ols:
Seriously, I would just try and spend as much time as I can with him, being a better friend, than his other friends.
Change his habits. As a kid who could have really used that when I was young, that's what I would do. If you test him or accuse him of doing something, you'll push him further away and into the path he is already on.
MoeRedskins
February-17th-2010, 12:19 PM
So the whole world is screwed up because you can't drug test your nephew. Interesting.
skinsfan07
February-17th-2010, 01:46 PM
Well I know for a fact that you can't sleep while on acid or mushrooms but yeah afterwards you do get pretty tired, but I've never slept for 24 hours straight.
Maybe the kid just likes sleeping? :whoknows:
blue collar
February-17th-2010, 01:50 PM
So the whole world is screwed up because you can't drug test your nephew. Interesting.
If you'd read more into it, you'd understand. If a parent thinks there could be a serious problem concerning their kid, why can't they request a drug test? The world is screwed up because parents have almost no rights these days. But as soon as a kid goes down the wrong path, who gets the blame?
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