ESPN: 'Skins have another Marshall Plan?

[GenMgr]

LINK: http://proxy.espn.go.com/nfl/features/rumors#4534

[Riggins77]

There is no way the Broncos trade Marshall for Campbell straight up. And I doubt they would want him in any package deal. My guess is we would have to give up next years 2nd round pick and a couple of players.

[holmester]

McDaniels didn't want Campbell last year and I really doubt that has changed.

[ceviker]

I can't believe ESPN actually put in writing that Campbell for Marshall could be a possibility.

Are they ****ing retarded? They just got Quinn and they REFUSED Campbell last year in favor or Orton. And now all of a sudden, they are going to trade a top 5 WR for that guy? These guys are morons.

[Audible_Red40]

No way Campbell heads to Denver.

[IS guhn RAIN]

The trading for Brandon Marshall talk needs to chill out. I dont know why so many people think it will happen. I dont think Shanahan liked Marshall in Denver and i dont think he wants him now. And ESPN, did you really need Jason Reid to say that its possible the skins could offer players or future picks for Marshall?? They act like trading future picks and players is something new and breaking news.

I mean maybe I'm wrong and they will get him, but I just dont see it happening. If they traded the 4 to Denver for the 11th pick and Marshall i would be for it. We could still hopefully get Bulaga or Trent Williams there. But no more future picks.

[DMVSkins]

Why is it that this has been talked about on ES for 2 weeks now and all of a sudden "ESPN" reports it like its new info

[Santana_Fan]

If we can get Marshall without giving up Landry or Haynesworth, I'm with it, and not a 1st rounder.

[redskins55]

Waist of money to get that inside scoop....lol

[fdarugar]

Does it make sense to trade the #4 to the Broncos for the #11 and Marshall or is that not enough compensation for Denver?

[ST is my boy]

If we trade for Brandon Marshall there is no possible way Dan Snyder isnt still the GM.

I would flip my lid.

[Dro89]

Moss, Campbell, next years 2.

[Santana_Fan]

Does it make sense to trade the #4 to the Broncos for the #11 and Marshall or is that not enough compensation for Denver?


Maybe if we add Carter in with our #4, or maybe a pick next year (maybe our 2nd).

[WhoRUSupposed2Be]

Guess we'll just have to play everything by ear on this one but it would not surprise me if indeed we did get him.

[ceviker]

Does it make sense to trade the #4 to the Broncos for the #11 and Marshall or is that not enough compensation for Denver?

If there is a player that Denver covets, than absolutely. Its all relative. Would be fine from my stand point too, as you can take a top 3 tackle still with the 11th pick.

[LaRonDontLikeUgly]

Does it make sense to trade the #4 to the Broncos for the #11 and Marshall or is that not enough compensation for Denver?

Not enough. Plus. that would put us out of the running for Okung AND Bulaga... which would be the biggest mistake we've made this offseason.

[Destino]

If we can get Marshall without giving up Landry or Haynesworth, I'm with it, and not a 1st rounder.

I'd trade Campbell and Landry for Marshall straight up. I'd trade Marshall and a 2nd round pick for Haynesworth, Landry, and Campbell. Frankly I don't want to see Landry in a skins uniform because it's too much of a gamble. The guy is not good and if we have to bench him for giving up touchdowns again his trade value will be gone. Better to get rid of him now while we might be able to use the "idea" that he could be good.

As for Haynesworth he just doesn't seem to fit in system so that's sad but what are you going to do? Might as well try to get something out of him.

Marshall
Moss
Thomas

That would be the best wide out trio McNabb has ever had.

[IS guhn RAIN]

Does it make sense to trade the #4 to the Broncos for the #11 and Marshall or is that not enough compensation for Denver?

Its worth the same points as a second round pick according to the points chart but Denver has to like someone enough at 4 to do it.

[Iced Coffee]

the odds of me being signed with the redskins with no football experience is more likely than this "marshall plan" :ols::ols:

[frommd]

Maybe we can work it out if Denver throws in a 2nd rounder this year. :silly:

[fdarugar]

the odds of me being signed with the redskins with no football experience is more likely than this "marshall plan" :ols::ols:

You realize we just traded for McNabb right? I wouldn't say anything is out of question...

[Hail-to-da-skins-21]

If we can give up AH, LL or JC for Marshall and keep the number 4 spot and take Okung it would be the greatest off season of all time! I know people may think it is a regular Dan Snyder off season but this time we got Shanny he knows who fits his system

[Iced Coffee]

You realize we just traded for McNabb right? I wouldn't say anything is out of question...

true :ols:

but campbell for marshall straight up.. and the entire denver organization will need protective services.

landry or big al that would be more realistic

[Santana_Fan]

I'd trade Campbell and Landry for Marshall straight up. I'd trade Marshall and a 2nd round pick for Haynesworth, Landry, and Campbell. Frankly I don't want to see Landry in a skins uniform because it's too much of a gamble. The guy is not good and if we have to bench him for giving up touchdowns again his trade value will be gone. Better to get rid of him now while we might be able to use the "idea" that he could be good.

As for Haynesworth he just doesn't seem to fit in system so that's sad but what are you going to do? Might as well try to get something out of him.

Marshall
Moss
Thomas

That would be the best wide out trio McNabb has ever had.

I see what you're saying. Just for some reason I still have some faith left with Landry. Last year was terrible, but I think he had a cool season when Sean was here. I honestly don't know what to think, but I'd still be happy to have one of my fav WR's here (Marshall).

We'd have two starting receivers that have closed games out on Dallas. Moss catching the 2 bombs to end the game, and Marshall just recently. :)

[Dro89]

wouldn't that just make another hole on the D line And Secondary is LL is in it?

[ADF]

Does it make sense to trade the #4 to the Broncos for the #11 and Marshall or is that not enough compensation for Denver?

I brought this idea up in one of the other Marshall threads. The difference in value between the #4 and #11 pick is 550 points. That equates to a high 2nd around pick. That's about what Marshall is worth. I'd probably make Denver throw in a mid to late round pick because of his character issues.


Maybe if we add Carter in with our #4, or maybe a pick next year (maybe our 2nd).

And what position would Carter play in Denver?

[Santana_Fan]

And what position would Carter play in Denver?

Yea, I just now remembered that they run a 3-4.

[Dro89]

lol we must be trading away everything..

[ADF]

Yea, I just now remembered that they run a 3-4.

Yeah, he'd face the same problems there. He'd be ideal for a team like Carolina.

[laxpck]

How could Denver want Carter or Haynesworth in their 3-4 ?

[Renegade7]

Cooley for Marshall, straight up. :evil:

[Yeen80]

Marshall cant come to DC. Brennan is already #15

[theboomking]

I still think the trade is Cooley plus another player for Marshall.

[Santana_Fan]

Marshall cant come to DC. Brennan is already #15


:ols: Terrible

[Llevron]

I could see the Big AL for Marshall thing going down now that we have already paid him that 21 mil of his contract. But I just don’t know if we should. I know alot of folks don’t like him but his impact on the defense was undeniable. It would make me sad to see him go and Rack regress from his rookie season because of it.

[Renegade7]

Marshall cant come to DC. Brennan is already #15

And he'll change his number again if BM comes here. Hell, Colt should really just be happy he still has a jersey number right now, all things considered...

[Santana_Fan]

I still think the trade is Cooley plus another player for Marshall.


That would suck. A lot.

[CaliforniaSkin]

So this is what we know:

ESPN posted something earlier saying that Shanny was prepared to cut Marshall outright if he couldn't trade him before he (Shanny) got fired.

Denver already turned down Campbell in our attempts to get Cutler last year because their coach preferred Orton.

To sum up, our coach doesn't like Marshall (was willing to cut him if he couldn't trade him) & their coach doesn't like Campbell. Therefore ESPN suggests that a trade is possible :doh:

[Hercules Rockefeller]

Denver and the Skins make terrible trade partners right now.

Marshall's not worth the 4th overall, and I don't see anyone at the 4th pick that would entice Denver to make a Marshall + offer for that pick. They don't need an offensive tackle, they're not taking a QB after trading for Quinn (it took McDaniels 3 times to get him, for some reason he loves BQ), and Suh and McCoy aren't really 3-4 lineman.

Obviously the Skins have no 2nd or 3rd round picks, and scraps (i.e. like your young WRs or Campbell) aren't going to get the job done. Denver's drafted 3 safeties the past 2 years that they can attempt to develop behind Dawkins/Hill would most likely eliminates Landry too.

[Dro89]

marshall not worth a swap in picks???????????

[theboomking]

So this is what we know:
ESPN posted something earlier saying that Shanny was prepared to cut Marshall outright if he couldn't trade him before he (Shanny) got fired.


I thought that report had been refuted.

[ADF]

So this is what we know:

ESPN posted something earlier saying that Shanny was prepared to cut Marshall outright if he couldn't trade him before he (Shanny) got fired.



I read that before and I too thought that would rule us out. But, people with inside info have said that we are/were interested in acquiring Marshall.

[Wrong Direction]

Anyone else think this talk that Haynesworth, Suh or McCoy aren't good in a 3-4 is total hogwash?

Ever hear of Haloti Ngata.

Case closed.

[CaliforniaSkin]

I thought that report had been refuted.

Has it? You got a link? Not saying you're wrong, I just haven't seen it.

And we're always supposed to be interested in any big name player.

[Wrong Direction]

I brought this idea up in one of the other Marshall threads. The difference in value between the #4 and #11 pick is 550 points. That equates to a high 2nd around pick. That's about what Marshall is worth. I'd probably make Denver throw in a mid to late round pick because of his character issues.


The only reason he'd be available for a #2 now is character issues. Erase them and he'd be worth a #1 plus more. The guy's an elite receiver. If we can get him on the cheap just like we got McNabb on the cheap, good for us.

[fdarugar]

true :ols:

but campbell for marshall straight up.. and the entire denver organization will need protective services.

landry or big al that would be more realistic

Landry has less value than Campbell.

[Santana_Fan]

The only reason he'd be available for a #2 now is character issues. Erase them and he'd be worth a #1 plus more. The guy's an elite receiver. If we can get him on the cheap just like we got McNabb on the cheap, good for us.

I seriously hope we can. The offense would be loaded.

[gortiz]

No way Campbell heads to Denver.

yep ...

no way gibbs comesback

no way we trade portis for bailey

no way mcnabb goes to the skins

you people never, ever learn huh?

[Iced Coffee]

Landry has less value than Campbell.

I would have to disagree with that.

[Santana_Fan]

On NFL.com, a Raider's fan is hoping that Al Davis makes a trade for Haynesworth. Their line would be vicious if that happened.

[Blue Collar Skins]

Pure speculation. Let's see...how many times has the media been right this off-season:

1. The Redskins are going to sign Karlos Dansby....NOPE
2. The Redskins are going to sign Darren Sproles....NOPE
3. The Redskins are going to go crazy during Free Agency....NOPE
4. The Redskins are going to trade for Brandon Marshall....NOPE
5. The Redskins are going to cut Clinton Portis....NOPE

What did the Redskins do and did the media predict it?

1. Sign Artis Hicks....NOPE
2. Sign Larry Johnson....NOPE
3. Sign Willie Parker....NOPE
4. Trade for Donovan McNabb....NOPE

Again, let me ask...when has the media been right this off-season?

[fdarugar]

I would have to disagree with that.

Hah, why because he was selected top 10? Dude Landry sucks period. If you can name one thing he does well please do so. He gets burned on coverage and can't tackle. Jason Campbell is a servicable starting QB who has put together a few decent seasons. In the first few weeks of last season he was considered an MVP candidate...which is laughable now. Landry has had a few good games in his career and those mostly came when he was playing next to ST.

[Iced Coffee]

Pure speculation. Let's see...how many times has the media been right this off-season:

1. The Redskins are going to sign Karlos Dansby....NOPE
2. The Redskins are going to sign Darren Sproles....NOPE
3. The Redskins are going to go crazy during Free Agency....NOPE
4. The Redskins are going to trade for Brandon Marshall....NOPE
5. The Redskins are going to cut Clinton Portis....NOPE

What did the Redskins do and did the media predict it?

1. Sign Artis Hicks....NOPE
2. Sign Larry Johnson....NOPE
3. Sign Willie Parker....NOPE
4. Trade for Donovan McNabb....NOPE

Again, let me ask...when has the media been right this off-season?

odds are if they keep guessing wrong they have to get one thing right.. eventually :ols:

[Wrong Direction]

On NFL.com, a Raider's fan is hoping that Al Davis makes a trade for Haynesworth. Their line would be vicious if that happened.

I'm hoping we send them Campbell and Haynesworth for Seymour and their #2 or #3 pick.

I totally made up that idea, but it would make sense for both parties. We'd get rid of the two guys we want to get rid of. Seymour is still a force who fits the 3-4 and he's not long for Oakland. They'd get his replacement and a serviceable QB.

[CaliforniaSkin]

Anyone else think this talk that Haynesworth, Suh or McCoy aren't good in a 3-4 is total hogwash?

Ever hear of Haloti Ngata.

Case closed.

Ngata is about 3 inches shorter than Haynesworth at the same weight. NT are typcially a little shorter and stubbier than Haynesworth. Haynesworth has never been a space-eater type and he's always played the 3 technique - never a 0 or 1 technique nose tackle.

Haynesworth is probably better suited to play DE in a 3-4. That said, He likely be an ideal 3-4 DE as would Suh. McCoy is probably better fit in the 4-3 though - he's 6'4 297 and has always played as a 1-gap DT.

[BlueTalon]

Landry has less value than Campbell.

To who, exactly?

[Iced Coffee]

Hah, why because he was selected top 10? Dude Landry sucks period. If you can name one thing he does well please do so. He gets burned on coverage and can't tackle. Jason Campbell is a servicable starting QB who has put together a few decent seasons. In the first few weeks of last season he was considered an MVP candidate...which is laughable now. Landry has had a few good games in his career and those mostly came when he was playing next to ST.

his selection has nothing to do with him having more value.. play him in his natural position and he can be effective. We are being critical of him because he couldn't adapt to a new position, when that wasn't even why he was drafted.

[IS guhn RAIN]

Anyone else think this talk that Haynesworth, Suh or McCoy aren't good in a 3-4 is total hogwash?

Ever hear of Haloti Ngata.

Case closed.

Case closed?? Thats like saying Does anyone else think that Brian Orakpo isnt good playing LOLB in a 4-3 is hogwash?? Ever hear of Rocky McIntosh??

Sorry, there are just nothing alike. Orakpo is much bigger and is meant to play DE or OLB in a 3-4. He was still good but it wasnt his prime position.

Haloti Ngata is nothing like those 3. He is 6'4 345 to 350. His job is to stand there and take up space. He cant rush the passer like those 3. McCoy is under 300 lbs and Suh is 307. They are way too small. Haynesworth would be a decent NT because hes pretty big and can take on double teams but it wouldnt utilize all of his abilities. He likes to pass rush and playing NT wont allow him to do that as often as playing DT in a 4-3. I think all of them would make good DE's in a 3-4 but they are still suited better for DT in 4-3.

[Wrong Direction]

Ngata is about 3 inches shorter than Haynesworth at the same weight. NT are typcially a little shorter and stubbier than Haynesworth. Haynesworth has never been a space-eater type and he's always played the 3 technique - never a 0 or 1 technique nose tackle.

Haynesworth is probably better suited to play DE in a 3-4. That said, He likely be an ideal 3-4 DE as would Suh. McCoy is probably better fit in the 4-3 though - he's 6'4 297 and has always played as a 1-gap DT.

I could be wrong, but I think Ngata plays end more than the nose. Gregg is usually over center.

[Atlass]

I brought this idea up in one of the other Marshall threads. The difference in value between the #4 and #11 pick is 550 points. That equates to a high 2nd around pick. That's about what Marshall is worth. I'd probably make Denver throw in a mid to late round pick because of his character issues.



And what position would Carter play in Denver?


That is silly. Marshall is the best WR in the nFL this side of Andre Johnson.

The Skins should swap picks with Denver then throw in a 2011 2nd rounder. That should get the trade done...... Wow, what an acquisition he would be. Moss and Him would make a great pair of WRs.


Marshall Highlights
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=16qhwX26vOA

[fdarugar]

his selection has nothing to do with him having more value.. play him in his natural position and he can be effective. We are being critical of him because he couldn't adapt to a new position, when that wasn't even why he was drafted.

Why are there so many Landry apologists?

[Atlass]

Denver and the Skins make terrible trade partners right now.

Marshall's not worth the 4th overall, and I don't see anyone at the 4th pick that would entice Denver to make a Marshall + offer for that pick. They don't need an offensive tackle, they're not taking a QB after trading for Quinn (it took McDaniels 3 times to get him, for some reason he loves BQ), and Suh and McCoy aren't really 3-4 lineman.

Obviously the Skins have no 2nd or 3rd round picks, and scraps (i.e. like your young WRs or Campbell) aren't going to get the job done. Denver's drafted 3 safeties the past 2 years that they can attempt to develop behind Dawkins/Hill would most likely eliminates Landry too.

Swap 11 and 4 and the Skins send Denver their 2011 2nd round pick... There done, that was too easy!!

[RabidFan]

Shanny said he was going to cut Marshall before he got canned...I think if he is trying to rid us of the pains in the arse that are Albert and Laron, he won't go for Marshall....though he did go for LJ so who knows. LOL

[IS guhn RAIN]

Swap 11 and 4 and the Skins send Denver their 2011 2nd round pick... There done, that was too easy!!

I would hate that trade. The 4 to 11 is 550 points which is a high second rounder. If we wanted to throw in Campbell or a 5th or 6th rounder next year than thats fine.

I think just moving from 4 to 11 is enough and if they wont take it then I would offer in a player. But I would be pissed if we gave up a 2nd rounder next year.
We have to stop giving up these high picks every year.

[Hercules Rockefeller]

Swap 11 and 4 and the Skins send Denver their 2011 2nd round pick... There done, that was too easy!!

Not really. Again, who does Denver want at #4? They're not in the market for an OT or a QB, and most likely not in the market for one of the 4-3 lineman since they're a 3-4 team.

[bird_1972]

No more shipping off draft picks, please. Even if they're in 2011.

[CaliforniaSkin]

That is silly. Marshall is the best WR in the nFL this side of Andre Johnson.

The Skins should swap picks with Denver then throw in a 2011 2nd rounder. That should get the trade done...... Wow, what an acquisition he would be. Moss and Him would make a great pair of WRs.


Given that the asking price is reportedly a 2nd rounder that would be grossly overpaying.

And, I'm sorry, Marshall isn't close to the best WR in the NFL. Larry Fitzgerald, Reggie Wayne, Vince Jackson, Greg Jennings & Randy Moss are all clearly superior. I'd argue that Roddy White, Sidney Rice, Desean Jackson, Wes Welker, Marques Colston & even Miles Austin are as well. And that's just off the top of my head.

Marshall has put up volume. He was thrown to a ton. But, his average yards per catch was 82nd in the league. His yards per target was a very pedestrian 47th. Additionally he's been an off-field distraction.

Don't get me wrong - he's a good receiver just not a truly elite one.

[bird_1972]

Given that the asking price is reportedly a 2nd rounder that would be grossly overpaying.

And, I'm sorry, Marshall isn't close to the best WR in the NFL. Larry Fitzgerald, Reggie Wayne, Vince Jackson, Greg Jennings & Randy Moss are all clearly superior. I'd argue that Roddy White, Sidney Rice, Desean Jackson, Wes Welker, Marques Colston & even Miles Austin are as well. And that's just off the top of my head.

Marshall has put up volume. He was thrown to a ton. But, his average yards per catch was 82nd in the league. His yards per target was a very pedestrian 47th. Additionally he's been an off-field distraction.

Don't get me wrong - he's a good receiver just not a truly elite one.




i.e., "thanks, but no thanks"

[pvkeeper19]

Yeah, let's bring in more high-dollar, bad attitude players. Albert Haynesworth isn't hurting the team chemistry enough. He needs help.

[SkinsFanMania]

Why is it that this has been talked about on ES for 2 weeks now and all of a sudden "ESPN" reports it like its new info

Did you even read the article. Yes, for about a month now Marshall has been in the news as a possibility for the Skins. However Campbell was never part of the trade.

Now, I think this is bogus, because McDaniels didn't want Campbell last year. Besides, Campbell for McDaniels straight up, they'd have to be crazy. Then again we do have Shanahan. Maybe Denver could throw in their 2nd round pick:laugh: or Bailey.

[Yeen80]

And he'll change his number again if BM comes here. Hell, Colt should really just be happy he still has a jersey number right now, all things considered...

Well put. Im amazed he's still around

[ADF]

That is silly. Marshall is the best WR in the nFL this side of Andre Johnson.

The Skins should swap picks with Denver then throw in a 2011 2nd rounder. That should get the trade done...... Wow, what an acquisition he would be. Moss and Him would make a great pair of WRs.


Marshall Highlights
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=16qhwX26vOA

He is not worth a 1st round pick. The guy is a head case. He stays in trouble with the law. Then there's the way he acted while trying to get traded from the Broncos last year. To be perfectly honest, I don't even want him on the team. He's no good to us if he's suspended for half the season and causing distractions. Any team would be a fool to give up the kind of compensation you suggest.

[HigSkin]

I'd like to see us grab one of SF's 1st rounders straight up for Big Al with split relief on his bonus. Then parlay that in to multiple picks, including a second. Trade the second for Marshall. We could either draft Okung or McCoy (DT), if Okung is gone, to fill AH's spot with our #4.

[ConnSKINS26]

I'd like to see us grab one of SF's 1st rounders straight up for Big Al with split relief on his bonus. Then parlay that in to multiple picks, including a second. Trade the second for Marshall. We could either draft Okung or McCoy (DT), if Okung is gone, to fill AH's spot with our #4.

And how do we solve LT then? Unless in your scenario we trade down and still have another high pick for a LT (other than the second you're trading for Marshall)

[HigSkin]

And how do we solve LT then? Unless in your scenario we trade down and still have another high pick for a LT (other than the second you're trading for Marshall)

Well, if Okung was gone, I would try and send JC/Landry to San Diego for Marcus McNeill. If that didn't work, I'd go ahead and draft a lower round LT and resign Levi Jones to a 2-yr.

[SBChamps172226]

Randy Moss was picked up for a fourth rounder from the pats - wait it out and see - if they really want to get rid of him and there are few takers we could end up with him. don't know if Shanny wants him though.

[Kelvin Bryant]

Marshall
Moss
Thomas

That would be the best wide out trio McNabb has ever had.

Of course, that's setting the bar pretty low...

[Destino]

To who, exactly?

To anyone that watched him play last season. Safety isn't a high value position to begin with... players more likely to give up touchdowns or hit someone out of bounds than they are to make a good play are worthless. This is exactly why I want to trade him away this season, while some people still think he's good.

[RammsteinSkins]

Again, let me ask...when has the media been right this off-season?Mike Shanahan :)

[pscsean]

If we can get Marshall without giving up Landry or Haynesworth, I'm with it, and not a 1st rounder. and....not a draft pick, or a player, or money, how about for a roll of paper towels, maybe then they will do it!

[whatmeworry]

Someone has been peeing in the gene pool at ESPN.

[Veretax]

Don't the broncos run a 3-4 how does that help carter?

[Capt Rich Fla]

Letting go of Landry and Haynesworth just smells of a Steve Spurrier. This is starting to weird me out. It feels like we are a mismash of other teams. There doesn't seem to be many redskins, but rather a Bronco, a Titan, an Eagle etc. All thrown in together to give the same same, "proud to be here with a team that knows how to win" speech. Uhmmm, folks, since when did we start winning?

[S.T.real,lights,out]

The more and more i think about getting this guy i like. He could be a monster in our 'O'. I just hope we are smart and dont give away too much if we do get him.

On another note didn't someone yesterday post an article that Shanny was going to cut him b/c of his crap in Denver. If not my bad but i thought i seen that.

[rd421]

I don't have a clue how we would pull it off but man I would love to see McNabb to Marshall on ESPN's top plays every Monday morning of the season. As long as we draft OL in the first round I am ok with trading for some players.

[Forever21]

If we trade for Marshall I have to think that JC will not be involved. What on earth would Denver want with a third midrange-average-kinda-ok-but-not-really-QB on their roster for?

I think the prospects of sending Landry or Big Al are possible. But I think either Thomas or Kelly will have to be involved as well. I personally would hope it was Kelly we sent.

Ideally we'd get a draft pick back too of course.

Landry (or big Al), Kelly and our 4th for Marshall and their 2nd?

[Veretax]

Only way we trade for Marshall is in a Swap for Moss. Anyone up for that action? Oh and we might have to throw something else in given how old Moss is.

[blue collar]

I hope we can land Marshell. But I'll believe that we're really serious about it when ESPN Adam Schefter reports it.

[texasthunder]

http://www.rotoworld.com/images/pixel.gifhttp://www.rotoworld.com/images/pixel.gifAfter polling NFL front office executives, Jeff Legwold of the Denver Post says the consensus is that coach Josh McDaniels and restricted free agent Brandon Marshall can't "constructively coexist."

Marshall and McDaniels have been saying the right things lately, but that's merely a ploy to maintain leverage in the trade market. Although no one thinks the Broncos can get a first-round pick for Marshall, we're expecting a draft-weekend deal. The Seahawks remain the frontrunners and the Redskins seem like the long shot.


http://www.rotoworld.com/content/home_NFL.aspx

[redskins55]

http://www.rotoworld.com/images/pixel.gifhttp://www.rotoworld.com/images/pixel.gifAfter polling NFL front office executives, Jeff Legwold of the Denver Post says the consensus is that coach Josh McDaniels and restricted free agent Brandon Marshall can't "constructively coexist."

Marshall and McDaniels have been saying the right things lately, but that's merely a ploy to maintain leverage in the trade market. Although no one thinks the Broncos can get a first-round pick for Marshall, we're expecting a draft-weekend deal. The Seahawks remain the frontrunners and the Redskins seem like the long shot.


http://www.rotoworld.com/content/home_NFL.aspx

I'd like to stay that way.. Lets develop our talented receiving core

[Titaw]

We weren't even a thought in the Mcnabb deal, how'd that turn out? I won't put anything past Shanahan and Allen at this point.

[Hitman#21]

We weren't even a thought in the Mcnabb deal, how'd that turn out? I won't put anything past Shanahan and Allen at this point.

Agreed, skins were a longshot in McNabb deal as well. Time will tell. I think its a draft type of deal if it happens.

[stevemcqueen1]

Does it make sense to trade the #4 to the Broncos for the #11 and Marshall or is that not enough compensation for Denver?

Actually, this is probably the best proposal I've seen so far. On our end at least. They want to get rid of Marshall and his price isn't too high right now before the draft. If we make this deal, then I think we should try and trade one of the guys already on the roster like Moss. Kelly and Thomas still need to get on the field.

[Hitman#21]

Actually, this is probably the best proposal I've seen so far. On our end at least. They want to get rid of Marshall and his price isn't too high right now before the draft. If we make this deal, then I think we should try and trade one of the guys already on the roster like Moss. Kelly and Thomas still need to get on the field.

I would love this deal, i doubt it happens. Maybe if the Skins trade back and get an extra 2nd rd they could trade for him, thats more realistic i believe.

[SkinFromNepal]

Moss, Campbell, next years 2.

Are you out of your mind? Moss can be a decent WR for couple of more seasons with good system... and we can get a good WR who can play for years to come with lot less $$ with next year's 2.

[DonMagicJuan]

more ESPN speculation....w/e....lets wait to see what happens...until then...more speculation, its that time of the season people!

[Hitman21ST]

The more and more i think about getting this guy i like. He could be a monster in our 'O'. I just hope we are smart and dont give away too much if we do get him.

On another note didn't someone yesterday post an article that Shanny was going to cut him b/c of his crap in Denver. If not my bad but i thought i seen that.

I agree with you on the first part, he could be a monster in our O. And think of this, if Kyle - who's #1 in Andre Johnson absolutely dominated last year without a significant #2 WR, but a good TE in Owen Daniels - wanted him, how much more could Marshall dominate with a real #2 in either Moss or Thomas and a great TE and another good TE? If it can get done without sacrificing much (relatively speaking), this could be a good thing.

On the second part, do you think Mike with look past that if Kyle really wants him? Do you think Marshall and Mike can coexist in an offense with that many weapons? Do you think there are enough touches to go around?

[SkinFromNepal]

I think Steelers might go after Marshall now that Holmes is traded.

[blue collar]

I think Steelers might go after Marshall now that Holmes is traded.

If that was the case, they might as well have kept Holmes.

[Hitman#21]

I think Steelers might go after Marshall now that Holmes is traded.

They've signed Randel El and Arnaz battle, and they also have Mike Wallace who they love, Limas Sweed and Hines Ward. It wouldnt make sense drafting Dez Bryant or trading for Marshall after getting rid of Holmes though you never know.

[LightningBuggs]

If that was the case, they might as well have kept Holmes.

Yep, I think the Stillers are gonna keep their distance from even "questionable" character guys for a while. And that includes Marshall.

[SkinFromNepal]

If that was the case, they might as well have kept Holmes.

Many find neighbor's wife who is a bigger biatch more appealing than his wife.

[fdarugar]

They've signed Randel El and Arnaz battle, and they also have Mike Wallace who they love and Hines Ward. It wouldnt make sense drafting Dez Bryant or trading for Marshall after getting rid of Holmes though you never know.

El and Battle suck and Hines Ward is like 50 years old. Mike Wallace is coming off a good rookie year but he'll be coming into his 1st year as a #2 WR. I think it would make alot of sense if the Steelers looked into a 1st round WR, maybe not Bryant given his issues but a guy like Thomas or Tate.

[Hitman21ST]

They've signed Randel El and Arnaz battle, and they also have Mike Wallace who they love and Hines Ward. It wouldnt make sense drafting Dez Bryant or trading for Marshall after getting rid of Holmes though you never know.

Don't forget Limas Sweed...

[Bootleg]

Don't forget Limas Sweed...

I remember the Redskins were going to take Limas Sweed... Thank goodness they didn't... Thomas and Kelly haven't shown much yet, but at least there's a sliver of hope.

[Hitman21ST]

I remember the Redskins were going to take Limas Sweed... Thank goodness they didn't... Thomas and Kelly haven't shown much yet, but at least there's a sliver of hope.

Has Sweed done anything in the pros?

[Hitman#21]

Don't forget Limas Sweed...

Good call my fellow Hitman :silly:

[Titaw]

Best case scenario, a TON would have to happen, but it is plausibe:

- Trade Hayensworth to Lions for #2 pick in the draft, select Okung with the #2 pick
- Trade #4 pick to SF for their 2 first rounders (#13 & #17)
- Select best O-Lineman, or Trade down if we have a dance partner @ #13
- Trade #17 to Broncos for Brandon Marshall

This can happen, but it probably won't. Here we get Okung, Marshall and another top tier O-Lineman or more picks.

[talk show host]

Haynesworth is not worth the #2 overall pick. I'd be shocked if we could get the Lions 2nd round pic (34th overall). Perhaps Carter + Haynesworth for the Lions 2nd rounder would be more realistic.

I could see us shipping our #4 and one of our starters for SFs two first rounders though.

[Titaw]

Haynesworth is not worth the #2 overall pick. I'd be shocked if we could get the Lions 2nd round pic (34th overall). Perhaps Carter + Haynesworth for the Lions 2nd rounder would be more realistic.

I could see us shipping our #4 and one of our starters for SFs two first rounders though.

Haynesworth is absoutely worth the #2 overall pick. Think about this, the Lions will get the best DT in the game right now, at a discount of what they would get Suh for. I know it sounds wierd seeing how last year he received a $100 mil deal, but his base is not that bad and $31 of the $44 mil guaranteed money has been paid. The Lions would have to fork over $20-$30 mil in guaranteed money plus the base to Suh. As long as we don't require Haynesworth to pay back some of the money this absolutely can happen.

[redskin301]

Haynesworth is not worth the #2 overall pick. I'd be shocked if we could get the Lions 2nd round pic (34th overall). Perhaps Carter + Haynesworth for the Lions 2nd rounder would be more realistic.

I could see us shipping our #4 and one of our starters for SFs two first rounders though.

That's just crazy

[Oldskool]

Brandon Marshall-WR-Broncos Apr. 12 - 12:54 pm et

The Seahawks are still the team showing the most interest in restricted free agent Brandon Marshall.
According to NFL.com's Jason La Canfora "talks are expected to heat up...this week" between the Seahawks and Broncos. Denver may ultimately be forced to settle with the Seahawks' second-round draft choice (No. 60 overall). Pete Carroll's team is not willing to part with either if its first-rounders.
Source: NFL.com

[RenegadeTK]

man... all this speculation is killing me. marshall would be great to have on the team... but there are other pressing needs. most notably OT, OG and FS.

[RFK Lives]

Best case scenario, a TON would have to happen, but it is plausibe:

- Trade Hayensworth to Lions for #2 pick in the draft, select Okung with the #2 pick
- Trade #4 pick to SF for their 2 first rounders (#13 & #17)
- Select best O-Lineman, or Trade down if we have a dance partner @ #13
- Trade #17 to Broncos for Brandon Marshall

This can happen, but it probably won't. Here we get Okung, Marshall and another top tier O-Lineman or more picks.Man, a dream scenario for sure. We would be in great shape and Mel would still give us a C draft grade.