Yahoo Sports: Further movement possible for Redskins, others

[Oldskool]

Donovan McNabb has arrived, and eventually, someone will be leaving the Washington Redskins. And the change of address forms may not stop with quarterback Jason Campbell , either. Indeed, two high-ranking front-office sources from NFC teams and one from the AFC indicated that the Redskins have put out feelers on multiple players since the arrival of new coach Mike Shanahan.

“[Shanahan] and [General Manager] Bruce Allen want to shake it up,” said one NFC personnel man. “There are some personalities they want to move out before training camp. I think some of it is the attitude of the locker room, and some of it is just the fit [schematically].”

Beyond defensive tackle Albert Haynesworth , the NFC source refused to reveal specific names, but said the Redskins appeared to be open to offers on “multiple” players.

“I think they’re going to be aggressive,” he said. “There have already been some calls.”

With trade and even some restricted free-agent chatter expected to pick up in the coming weeks, the Redskins appear to be the sellers. Conversely, the three personnel sources said they believed the New York Jets may end up being amongst the most active “buyers”, whether via trade or by way of attempting to sign a restricted free agent or two.

With that in mind, here are a handful of players to watch in the weeks preceding and following the NFL draft …

Jason Campbell, QB, Redskins
With Donovan McNabb in town, Campbell’s going to get shipped somewhere. But it may not happen until during or after the draft, when quarterback depth charts begin to cement themselves. And Campbell is more attractive than people think. At 28 and with a wealth of starting experience – and solid passer rating and touchdown to interception ratios the last two seasons – he’s not a scrapheap player. He’s still got the size and tools that made him attractive in the draft, too. He’ll draw plenty of interest before finally getting dealt.

Albert Haynesworth, DT, Redskins
The Redskins are trying to squash the notion that Haynesworth is certain to get dealt, and you can bet that part of that is because the team doled out his $21 million option bonus earlier this month. Washington reportedly did what it could to move him before paying that money. Now the franchise has sunk an absurd $32 million into him in 13 months. But don’t bank on this one being over just yet. The new regime, Shanahan, isn’t thrilled with the idea of having the historically vocal Haynesworth contradicting the message that is being sent heading into next season. And Haynesworth made it no secret when he met with Shanahan that he wasn’t interested in playing in a 3-4 defense. He’s intent on skipping the voluntary workouts, too, which has already angered Shanahan. This one will get worse before it gets better. And that’s the kind of thing that leaves the trade door wide open.

LaRon Landry, FS, Redskins
The Redskins visited with draft prospect Eric Berry earlier this month, and are believed to be very impressed with him. While it’s hard to believe the team would spend the fourth overall pick in the draft on a safety – especially considering Washington’s need on the offensive line – Berry could be the exception to the rule. As for Landry, there is some question about whether he has the range to deal with some of the coverage responsibilities in the team’s new 3-4 scheme. The Redskins have also shown some interest in free agent offensive tackle Flozell Adams, which could help shore up the left tackle spot in the short term, and freeing them up to go elsewhere with their first-round pick.

Clinton Portis, RB, Redskins
There has been buzz for weeks now that a former Pro Bowl running back was on the trading block, but little clarity as to the player’s identity. Based on comments from inside their organization, several have been ruled out since the NFL owners meetings, including a handful that would have value on the open market – guys like the St. Louis Rams’ Steven Jackson and Dallas Cowboys’ Marion Barber . But Portis’ security would seem to have gone in the other direction, with the Redskins adding Willie Parker and Larry Johnson to the backfield. That doesn’t necessarily mean Portis, who missed the second half of last season because of concussion symptoms, is on his way out, particularly with Johnson and Parker fielding contracts that are easy to shed for almost nothing. And while Portis’ penchant for vocal criticism has already drawn a red flag from the new regime, a source close to Shanahan said the Redskins are “pot committed,” suggesting that the $6 million guaranteed the franchise owes him could prevent Washington from severing ties. However, Shanahan traded Portis once, and with two cheap veterans in the fold, he has the insurance to do it again.

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=cr-availableplayers040910 for the rest of the article

[Main-Maine]

I think this is a rumor that has been floating around ES board for a while, which seems like these insider are just reading ES board.

[sikizler]

The only one that surprises me is Landry. I thought Shanny might be looking to move CP before the ink was dry on his contract.

[skinsdude]

Landry is the only player on that list that I feel comfortable in saying he will be here. I don't think that Jason will be as easy to trade as the writer thinks. We will ultimately settle for less than we had hoped for. In my opinion anyone who thinks that the Skins are not currently listening to offers for Albert is kidding themselves. I'm not saying that it will happen but they are listening. I could also see Portis gone but if he shows up in shape he will stay. I just don't know if I see Portis, Johnson, and Parker all staying.

[sikizler]

I don't think that Jason will be as easy to trade as the writer thinks. We will ultimately settle for less than we had hoped for.

No question. The McNabb trade has created a buyer's market for Mr. Campbell's services.

[That Redskins Fan]

If the skins sign flozell before the draft then I think the four pick is up for grabs to the highest bidder

[TheismannQuote]

LaRon Landry, FS, Redskins
The Redskins visited with draft prospect Eric Berry earlier this month, and are believed to be very impressed with him. While it’s hard to believe the team would spend the fourth overall pick in the draft on a safety – especially considering Washington’s need on the offensive line – Berry could be the exception to the rule. As for Landry, there is some question about whether he has the range to deal with some of the coverage responsibilities in the team’s new 3-4 scheme. http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=cr-availableplayers040910 for the rest of the article


I don't see Landry's 'range' as being a flaw in his game. That, if anything, is what he brings to the table. It's the angles/tackling/coverage portion of safety that he needs to build on. I still feel that Landry has good potential in Washington but if they feel Horton or Doughty could easily be plugged in his place - bring it on.

[ADF]

I'm not sure why anyone is surprised by Landry being on the list. Insiders here have already said that we've tried to trade him. You'd have to add Andre Carter to the list. He doesn't fit the 3-4 at all. Moss may be in trouble as well. There is word (from insiders here) that we have already tried to trade him and he is probably the odd man out if we acquire Marshall.

[GothSkinsFan]

If the skins sign flozell before the draft then I think the four pick is up for grabs to the highest bidder
So is McNabb on every pass.

[Rdskn4Lyf21]

I'm curious as to what CP would be worth from a pick standpoint.

A 5th?

[Rutliff381]

No question. The McNabb trade has created a buyer's market for Mr. Campbell's services.


A team losing a QB to injury in camp would change this big time. Theres always that possibility. We'll have to see how the draft goes too. Maybe a team in search of QB won't end up with one.

[Destructis]

I'm curious as to what CP would be worth from a pick standpoint.

A 5th?

Why would we give up a 5th for someone to take Portis?

[sikizler]

A team losing a QB to injury in camp would change this big time. Theres always that possibility. We'll have to see how the draft goes too. Maybe a team in search of QB won't end up with one.

Fine point but I'm not sure he'll be here by the time anyone gets to camp.

[ADF]

I have a hard time seeing Parker as a threat to Portis.

[zskins]

I have a feeling we are going to get Eric Berry with our #4.

[Rutliff381]

Fine point but I'm not sure he'll be here by the time anyone gets to camp.

I agree with you and skinsdude that Campbell won't be easy to move right now. I don't think we will get a good enough offer for him now. I just personally believe he'll be here after the draft b/c of that. Maybe a team becomes desperate down the road. If not, worst case is we have a good backup this year in case anything were to happen to injury prone McNabb. I'm sure we won't take the first crappy offer that comes along.

[CallMeGreen]

The writer says a source believes the Redskins to be 'pot committed', implying they won't just eat the $6M+ already paid in guaranteed money to Portis? If that's the case, wouldn't they be even more 'pot committed' to the $32M guaranteed already paid to Haynesworth? Am I missing something here?


If the skins sign flozell before the draft then I think the four pick is up for grabs to the highest bidder
Wouldn't surprise me, for the very reason of keeping the guessing game going on about how we'll use our pick, that no action gets taken on Adams until after the draft. Same speculation is going on about Darren Sharper (FA: Saints), though some believe he's implicating himself coming to DC to drive up interest.

[skinsdude]

I have a feeling we are going to get Eric Berry with our #4.

I cannot fathom the Redskins taking a safety with the fourth overall pick. If they do my television is in danger of being damaged.

[terrifNick21]

Will the draft just come already....

[That Redskins Fan]

So is McNabb on every pass.

why is that you do relaize this deepe draft at tackle

Okung is Not a franchsie tackle...some teams like bugla, willams and Anthony davis more than him

For myself i like anthony davis more than Okung but that is me

plust this teams needs more than four players drafted more like six maybe seven

[ST is my boy]

I knew Landry was bad last season, but I didnt realize just how bad he was until watching highlights last week of all of our games......

EVERY long touchdown or long pass he was the dude getting smoked.

Now you cant attribute every play to him not knowing the scheme........but im willing to bet most were his fault.......pretty ugly.

He was good year 1 and 2 though......so I know hes got the potential.......not sure what happened to him last year. People say it was Blache and maybe it was some of that.......he was just lousy period though.....even when he was in the right spot to make a play.

[sikizler]

I cannot fathom the Redskins taking a safety with the fourth overall pick. If they do my television is in danger of being damaged.

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[illone]

If the team moves Landry or Haynesworth I won't miss either player.

Portis I would miss for a season, but if it's proven he has too much wear on those tires then I won't be ticked for too long.

Regardless, if the team gets Flozell or trades for Gaither and ends up drafting Berry that will be pretty crazy.

[CallMeGreen]

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[holmester]

I would love to move Landry and the Jets make alot of sense. They just traded Kerry Rhodes and have a glaring hole at FS. I think Rex Ryan probaly thinks he can get the most out of Landry and probaly loves his cocky attitude along with his big hit mentality. I would take NYJ 2nd (59th ovr) and a late round pick or player for Landry.

[NewCliche21]

Moving Landry would be ridiculous.

Couldn't care less about the rest.

[holmester]

Moving Landry would be AWESOME.

Couldn't care less about the rest.

There ya go.

[zskins]

I cannot fathom the Redskins taking a safety with the fourth overall pick. If they do my television is in danger of being damaged.

I recommend you go to a bar that night then. :ols:

[Enter Apotheosis]

The writer says a source believes the Redskins to be 'pot committed', implying they won't just eat the $6M+ already paid in guaranteed money to Portis? If that's the case, wouldn't they be even more 'pot committed' to the $32M guaranteed already paid to Haynesworth? Am I missing something here?

Yep, the fact that Haynesworth isn't actually on the table anymore according to the ES inside sources that be.

[Hitman#21]

Like the willingness to deal, i just hope we dont trade out of 4 and pass up on Okung Berry or Williams, that would be a mistake.

[Gibbs Hog Heaven]

That'd be a heck of a statement from the new regime if we off-loaded all 3, (Jason doesn't count in this, and he's gone regardless); to say "this **** stops here, and it stops NOW! If your not going to be 100% committed to this ball club and your craft, in EVERYTHING you do, your not gona' free load it at our expense any longer."

Here's to some frantic trading and house cleaning of the deadwood.

Hail.

[fdarugar]

I would love to move Landry and the Jets make alot of sense. They just traded Kerry Rhodes and have a glaring hole at FS. I think Rex Ryan probaly thinks he can get the most out of Landry and probaly loves his cocky attitude along with his big hit mentality. I would take NYJ 2nd (59th ovr) and a late round pick or player for Landry.

No way is Landry worth a 2nd rounder...I think we'd be lucky to get a 4th. Skins fans need to realize this dude sucks. He can't even hang with Reed Doughty.

[Chump Bailey]

I cannot fathom the Redskins taking a safety with the fourth overall pick. If they do my television is in danger of being damaged.

We'd be absolute fools to take Berry - fools.

[NewCliche21]

No way is Landry worth a 2nd rounder...I think we'd be lucky to get a 4th. Skins fans need to realize this dude sucks. He can't even hang with Reed Doughty.

Hahaha, I hope?

Landry is an outstanding talent when used correctly. BLACHE was the joke.

[holmester]

No way is Landry worth a 2nd rounder...I think we'd be lucky to get a 4th. Skins fans need to realize this dude sucks. He can't even hang with Reed Doughty.

Dude, I can't stand Landry but even I would admit he is worth more then a 4th rd pick.

[holmester]

Hahaha, I hope?

Landry is an outstanding talent when used correctly. BLACHE was the joke.

Blache didn't lock the doors to the facility preventing Landry from watching tape and studying so that he could improve his game.

Blache didn't force Landry to take terrible angles or go for the big hit rather then make the sure tackle to prevent a big play.

Blache didn't tell Laron to repeatedly bite on every double move despite being our last line of defense.

Yes, Blache was terrible. But, so is Landry's attitude and work ethic.

[Gibbs Hog Heaven]

Hahaha, I hope?

Landry is an outstanding talent when used correctly. BLACHE was the joke.

Landry is an outstanding example of a complete waste of God given natural talent due to a **** poor personal attitude.

As big a joke as Blache is, there's only one man to blame for LaRon Landry being just another starting NFL safety; instead of what he should be well on the way to becoming with his talent, one of the all time greats at the position; and that's LaRon Landry himself.

Until he matures, and starts dedicating himself to his craft, no coach will bring that out of him.

Hail.

[ST is my boy]

Landry is an outstanding example of a complete waste of God given natural talent due to a **** poor personal attitude.

As big a joke as Blache is, there's only one man to blame for LaRon Landry being just another starting NFL safety; instead of what he should be well on the way to becoming with his talent, one of the all time greats at the position; and that's LaRon Landry himself.

Until he matures, and starts dedicating himself to his craft, no coach will bring that out of him.

Hail.

Im not going to call him a waste just yet. He played well in years 1 and 2 in my opinoin.

But im also not going to sit here and blame everything on Blache. Landry played like crap period in all facets of the game.....tackling, coverage, everything......terrible. I have no idea why, but I hope he can get back on track........this could be a make or break year for him.

[CallMeGreen]

... i just hope we dont trade out of 4 and pass up on Okung Berry or Williams, that would be a mistake.
If all three of those guys are still available at 4 when we're on the clock, then one of them will still be at there at 6 if we traded down. The #4 is only worth one player, I'd rather trade down and get an additional player or more.

[redskins55]

I would love to move Landry and the Jets make alot of sense. They just traded Kerry Rhodes and have a glaring hole at FS. I think Rex Ryan probaly thinks he can get the most out of Landry and probaly loves his cocky attitude along with his big hit mentality. I would take NYJ 2nd (59th ovr) and a late round pick or player for Landry.

Rex Ryan got the most out of Landry's brother so maybe we can get the most out of their 2nd round pick for Landry...lol

Seriously, I hope we keep Landry. I think he's more valuable to us because we have to many holes already to fill

[J-bomb]

Here is what Shanahan had to say on these subjects:

On trading Albert Haynesworth: "There is nothing to clarify. It is just speculation. He's part of the organization. I am just looking for him to come in and work and be like everyone else. No, we're not going to trade him at all, unless someone gives us something we would have to consider -- that's pretty standard with any player on your roster. He's a pretty smart guy. He's really talented. I think I can get that out of him.''

On Tim Tebow: "He was in here on Thursday. I think the guy is such a competitor. Wherever he ends up playing he will do a good job. He is such a worker. How are you going to use him? How long will you give him to develop? He is such an athlete. You know he is going to work. Maybe you put him on special teams. He has the size of a linebacker or tight end. He is not afraid of hitting people. It's a way to use him more and early on the 45-man roster. I wouldn't hesitate to do that.''

On signing running backs Willie Parker and Larry Johnson when the Redskins already have Clinton Portis: "It's competition. We got rid of five running backs on the roster who we thought really could not help us because of the style of the offense and the history of the zone blocking scheme. We think these guys can help us. They will compete to see which one actually does it.''

Shanahan said that each day since his hiring on Jan. 6 has been a process in deciding "how do we become a better football team?'' He said this is a ``typical'' first year when you are evaluating everything.''


http://nfl.fanhouse.com/2010/04/09/shanahan-believes-redskins-made-great-grab-in-mcnabb/

[ConnSKINS26]

According to that quote, Hayneworth is not on the trading block. But if we got a good enough offer, we'd trade him. So...he's on the block. I love Coach speak! :ols:

[Travdaskin]

Keep Mr. Al. If we can get a 3rd for Landry take it. IMO we keep Portis as well. The only players that should be on the block for sure is Jason & Andre Carter because they don't fit our plans...

[JustAfan47]

Hahaha, I hope?

Landry is an outstanding talent when used correctly. BLACHE was the joke.

I 2nd that!!!!

[SKIN4WAHOOZ]

I don't see Landry's 'range' as being a flaw in his game. That, if anything, is what he brings to the table.


i remain baffled as to why this front office does not turn to ES for talent evaluation.

[RWJ]

i remain baffled as to why this front office does not turn to ES for talent evaluation.

Joking, right???

[MrJL]

No question. The McNabb trade has created a buyer's market for Mr. Campbell's services.


there's no reason he can't back up

[TotalRecall]

Campbell for a 6th round pick
AH for a 2nd in this draft and a conditional 2nd or 3rd in 2011.
Portis for a 4th round pick.
LL for an early to mid 2nd round pick.

That would be fair and good for the team.

[Siven]

Hahaha, I hope?

Landry is an outstanding talent when used correctly. BLACHE was the joke.

I don't get why people gloss over this fact. The scheme was crap and so was the playcalling.

Furthermore

Sean Taylor was ****ing garbage in 2006, he was awful he gave up so many long touchdowns and wouldn't wrap up.

This fanbase has zero patience.

[Siven]

According to that quote, Hayneworth is not on the trading block. But if we got a good enough offer, we'd trade him. So...he's on the block. I love Coach speak! :ols:

He's saying that if he were offered a first rounder, like any player on the team you have to consider that.

Say Detroit said "hey, want our 2nd overall? well no **** they'd have to consider it.

[ConnSKINS26]

He's saying that if he were offered a first rounder, like any player on the team you have to consider that.

Say Detroit said "hey, want our 2nd overall? well no **** they'd have to consider it.

...I know...that's what I was saying. I'm glad we're on the same page haha

[The Robert Griffin Experience]

I don't get why people gloss over this fact. The scheme was crap and so was the playcalling.

Furthermore

Sean Taylor was ****ing garbage in 2006, he was awful he gave up so many long touchdowns and wouldn't wrap up.

This fanbase has zero patience.

I keep pointing that out but nobody listens.

Seriously, pretty much EVERY issue that Landry has now could have been said about Sean Taylor from 2004-2006.

[STBonecrusher21]

Just keep quiet, just keep quiet, just keep quiet...

[mistertim]

Campbell for a 6th round pick
AH for a 2nd in this draft and a conditional 2nd or 3rd in 2011.
Portis for a 4th round pick.
LL for an early to mid 2nd round pick.

That would be fair and good for the team.

I love this "Haynesworth for a 2nd" stuff. Richard Seymour went for a 1st rounder and, while Seymour is an awesome player, he doesn't have the same skillset to completely disrupt O lines as AH does because of the agility and athleticism Haynesworth has for his huge size. If we traded AH for a 2nd rounder I would just do a facepalm.

[SKIN4WAHOOZ]

whats that old cliche..."anythings possible"

well thought out yahoo. you wonder why google OWNS you!

[ddub52]

I'm not sure why anyone is surprised by Landry being on the list. Insiders here have already said that we've tried to trade him. You'd have to add Andre Carter to the list. He doesn't fit the 3-4 at all. Moss may be in trouble as well. There is word (from insiders here) that we have already tried to trade him and he is probably the odd man out if we acquire Marshall.

Carter doesnt fit the 3-4?

He was in a 3-4 in San Francisco and excelled. If hes still here, Ill be excited to see what he can do in our version of it

[ddub52]

I don't get why people gloss over this fact. The scheme was crap and so was the playcalling.

Furthermore

Sean Taylor was ****ing garbage in 2006, he was awful he gave up so many long touchdowns and wouldn't wrap up.

This fanbase has zero patience.

I wouldnt say ST was garbage in 06. He just had absolutely zero help in the secondary and basically was our whole secondary. He had 111 tackles that season. Landry has never even come close to that many, and has played with an overall better group of players throughout most of his career.

If kind of agree that Landry will benefit from a new system, but I cant agree with cutting Landy extra slack based on ST playing in a garbage defense his 3rd season

[ConnSKINS26]

Carter doesnt fit the 3-4?

He was in a 3-4 in San Francisco and excelled. If hes still here, Ill be excited to see what he can do in our version of it

Please tell me you're joking about this statement? If not, you REALLY need to do some research on it.

[JustAfan47]

Carter doesnt fit the 3-4?

He was in a 3-4 in San Francisco and excelled. If hes still here, Ill be excited to see what he can do in our version of it


He did what????..........:doh:

[icbmayday]

These "insiders" lol

[Veretax]

I don't see us giving him up for less than a 1st, now you could in theory get a 2nd and more picks to balance that I don't know. But I don't see detroit giving up their 2nd and third for him either they have fewer quality starters than I think any team in the league.

[SkinsFTW]

I love this "Haynesworth for a 2nd" stuff. Richard Seymour went for a 1st rounder and, while Seymour is an awesome player, he doesn't have the same skillset to completely disrupt O lines as AH does because of the agility and athleticism Haynesworth has for his huge size. If we traded AH for a 2nd rounder I would just do a facepalm.

Well it was the Raiders. I'd be very unsurprised if they gave up a 2nd for Jason Campbell. I doubt we get more than a 5th from any other team right now but Oakland? Who knows maybe JC and Landry for their 1st.

[CurseReversed]

i remain baffled as to why this front office does not turn to ES for talent evaluation.

Well to be fair they have contacted me. :D

[TotalRecall]

I love this "Haynesworth for a 2nd" stuff. Richard Seymour went for a 1st rounder and, while Seymour is an awesome player, he doesn't have the same skillset to completely disrupt O lines as AH does because of the agility and athleticism Haynesworth has for his huge size. If we traded AH for a 2nd rounder I would just do a facepalm.

Two second rounders would be equivalent to a 1st rounder. In fact, I would think better since it fills-up two holes on the team, instead of one. The Seymour 2009 trade was for the Raiders' 2011 1st rounder. I guess the Pats will win on that gamble. And Seymour didn't have issues with the Pats...the trade was a big disappointment to him.

[Seabee1973]

Why would we give up a 5th for someone to take Portis?

I kn ow thats way to low lets give up a fourth

[anar-k21]

nah aat least i hope not..we dont really need to work too much on defense..... id keep Landry...... i kinda figured Portis might be moving again... this is just on of those What IF kinda stories...ill beleive it when it happens

[Forever21]

I think CP has the least value on the market so he's the one of those guys I expect will certainly in a 'Skin next year.

I'd love to see what we could get for Landry though. His lack of coverage skills are bloody killing us.

[Adam291]

I don't see Landry's 'range' as being a flaw in his game. That, if anything, is what he brings to the table. It's the angles/tackling/coverage portion of safety that he needs to build on. I still feel that Landry has good potential in Washington but if they feel Horton or Doughty could easily be plugged in his place - bring it on.
Landry's 'range' is a myth. Yes, he is capable of running all over the field and standing far off the line of scrimmage, but he doesn't play well in that role. One way or another, when he's put in his 'range' role, the results aren't much different than someone without his athletic ability. I really doubt we'll start the season with Landry, Doughty, Horton and Moore on the roster in their current positions, and Landry probably has the most value right now. Maybe put Moore at FS and Landry at SS, but that would still end up being too many SSs on the roster.

[MartinC]

If the skins sign flozell before the draft then I think the four pick is up for grabs to the highest bidder

Disagree. We need two new starting tackles right now. Adams at best is a one or two year sticking plaster Okung or Williams would be someone you hope can plaug in for a decade.

I expect us to take the best tackle on our board at #4 and find the other starting tackle on the waiver wire at the end of training camp or maybe Hicks slides over to RT if he can beat out Heyer. Adams is worth a look but he does not have much left and is a walking offsides penalty - he would be an upgrade on anything we had at tackle last year after Samuels was hurt though.

[Hitman21ST]

If the skins sign flozell before the draft then I think the four pick is up for grabs to the highest bidder

I'm thinking, even if we trade down (depending on where of course and with who) we still might try to grab Berry or Earl Thomas. I've heard talk on ES about moving Flozell to RT if we sign him, then drafting a LT. As of right now, we only have four picks, but I'm looking forward to this draft more than I was the draft that we picked up Devin, Malcolm, and Fred.

EDIT: Just spitballing here, but if we sign Flozell and somehow nab Gaither, that would make me feel a whole lot more secure in the O line. I know Gaither isn't the prototypical zone blocking LT, but is Kyle's offense a ZBS offense? That would have to equate too, if Kyle ran something other than ZBS.

[dadirtbags]

is it possible a few things may be going on here...for starters...this upcoming draft...all of these rumors may be getting leaked out so this years draft is less conspicuous with who we may be eyeing on...want to draft...also...theres nothing like being motivated due to possibly losing your job or not wanted...I would also imagine there is some truth to these rumors...I would imagine trading a few players who are "ok" with losing is something a new staff is always looking to improve...JMHO

[GibbsFactor]

Just get the 2nd and 3rd and I'd be happier.

[nebster21]

wow. Everyone reads Extremeskins. If someone thought about it here a year ago and posted a message on ExtremeSkins it means it is impossible that someone else had the same thought they must have read it on extremeskins. OH WAIT we have multiple threads on one topic all the time.