PFT: Redskins haven't talked to Titans about Haynesworth

[dfbovey]

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/04/14/jeff-fisher-says-he-hasnt-talked-to-redskins-about-haynesworth/


Jeff Fisher says he hasn't talked to Redskins about Haynesworth
Posted by Mike Florio on April 14, 2010 10:13 AM ET
Though rumors that the Redskins are willing to trade defensive tackle Albert Haynesworth haven't subsided, Titans coach Jeff Fisher has gone on the record to make one thing clear.

He hasn't talked to the Redskins about working out a deal to bring Albert back to Tennessee.

"There has been some speculation that I've had conversations with Mike Shanahan, which is false,'' Fisher said, according to Jim Wyatt of the Tennessean. "I have not had behind-the-scenes meetings with our people. There have been no discussions. He is under contract with the Redskins and we are dwelling on the draft right now."

Though the headline in the Tennesean indicates that Fisher said Haynesworth won't be back at all, we see nothing in the article suggesting that the door is closed. Instead, Fisher says only that there have been no talks, that Haynesworth is under contract with the Redskins, and that the head coach "doesn't deal in hypotheticals."

The position makes perfect sense. Last year, the Titans instigated a tampering investigation regarding their belief (and the belief of everyone with a beating heart and an ounce of common sense) that the Redskins were talking to Haynesworth's agent, Chad Speck, about a contract before the free-agency period opened. Fisher hasn't remained the head coach of the Titans for 16 years without being really, really smart. And he's smart enough to not give the Redskins (or anyone else) ammunition to argue that, in the end, the Titans are hypocrites.

Here's the deal. If the Titans truly have no interest in Haynesworth, they can say so, loudly and clearly, without running afoul of the tampering rules. Fisher didn't. And that means the door is still open, even if by only a crack.

[dadirtbags]

yes...just read that...sounds like musical chairs...I guess we will find out more when the music stops

[J-bomb]

Why would fisher be worried about tampering when all teams do it and no one has yet to be punished for it? Sounds like someone trying to cover there ass for being wrong about the Haynesworth to skins speculation!

[stuck_N_virginia]

since when is Florio a solid source for anything?

[MGutta]

If I'm BA, I offer AC and AH for their 1st.

They need a DT like it's nobody's business and they lost VandenBosch...

Their recent success has been due to their defense. If you take that away, they fall apart. It's a deal they have to make IMO.


since when is Florio a solid source for anything?

He took it from The Tennessean...

[dfbovey]

since when is Florio a solid source for anything?

Since when has the Washington Post or Kelli Johnson been a solid source for anything Redskin related? They certainly haven't been this offseason.

This is just one more thing to add to the pile of evidence to support what some have been saying here for the past few weeks. That the Haynesworth news in the media is overhyped and under supported by any tangible facts. It's all speculation. If they were actively shopping for trades, they would have contacted someone with power in the Titan's organization. But according to Titan's front office officials, that hasn't happened.

[Santana_89]

Well that's not what Kelli Johnson's" sources" told her:ols::ols: .......somebody's clearly fibbing http://twitter.com/kjohnsoncsn:

Shanahan & Jeff Fisher are also very good friends;trading Haynesworth would give Shanny support from lockeroom; more on csnwashington.com 10:01 AM Apr 7th
via ubertwitter.com

NFL source tells me Wash is trying 2 trade Haynesworth 2 Tenn & DL coach Jim Washburn, who I'm told is only coach to earn Albert's respect.9:56 AM Apr 7th via ubertwitter.com

[stoney26]

Al isn't going anywhere. And I never understood all the hate pft gets. I love that site.

[CrazyZeb]

How is speaking with the Redskins about a trade tampering?

[authentic]

its no use at this point trying to speculate on whats going to happen. I think its best just to wait and see. Shanny and Allen will continue to keep info close to the vest. therefore alot of these conflicting reports seems to be more about "stiring the pot" by the media, than actual factuals.

[authentic]

Well that's not what Kelli Johnson's" sources" told her:ols::ols:

her "source" could have been the janitor for crying out loud.

[MattFancy]

I don't know who to believe in all this. We have our local reporters saying AH is being shopped around and Schefter saying nothing is going on. Now Florio is saying there have been no talks with the Titans. So who is in the know? Usually Florio is off on these types of things, but since its inline with what Schefter is saying, I guess I'll have to believe Florio.

[dfbovey]

How is speaking with the Redskins about a trade tampering?

The Titans accused the Redskins of tampering with Haynesworth before he officially became a free agent last year.

[dfbovey]

I don't know who to believe in all this. We have our local reporters saying AH is being shopped around and Schefter saying nothing is going on. Now Florio is saying there have been no talks with the Titans. So who is in the know? Usually Florio is off on these types of things, but since its inline with what Schefter is saying, I guess I'll have to believe Florio.

Jason Reid and Kelli Johnson have been incredibly inaccurate all offseason.

Schefter is much more reliable.

[bobzmuda]

since when is Florio a solid source for anything?

Florio isn't the source.

[CrazyZeb]

The Titans accused the Redskins of tampering with Haynesworth before he officially became a free agent last year.

Yes, but how could they ever be seen as hypocritical by acknowledging they spoke with the Redskins FO about a trade? Where's the possible tampering?

[MattFancy]

Jason Reid and Kelli Johnson have been incredibly inaccurate all offseason.

Schefter is much more reliable.

Oh I totally agree. Schefter as been spot on about our moves this offseason. That's why I said I guess I'll have to agree with Florio, which is rare.

[dfbovey]

Yes, but how could they ever be seen as hypocritical by acknowledging they spoke with the Redskins FO about a trade? Where's the possible tampering?

I took it as they don't want to deal with the Redskins for ethical reasons. Matter of principle.

[dfbovey]

Oh I totally agree. Schefter as been spot on about our moves this offseason. That's why I said I guess I'll have to agree with Florio, which is rare.

Well, like others have said. This is just Florio reposting info from another source and lending his 2 cents to it.

[Santana_89]

Jason Reid and Kelli Johnson have been incredibly inaccurate all offseason.

Schefter is much more reliable.


Exactly KJ and JReid have nothing to report because they nor JLC have any connection to the new Redskins front office:ols::ols: It is pretty damn entertaining watching all their "insider info" end up being totally BOGUS:drooley:

[Blue Collar Skins]

It's funny. Any negative articles about Haynesworth, even if they are completely false, jump to about 10 pages instantly, but this is yet another positive article about Haynesworth, with hardly any discussion in here.

Other articles include: Redskins stating they are not looking to trade Haynesworth, Haynesworth is really a caring guy, and Haynesworth stating he is fine playing in the 3-4.

So, I wonder, is the board over-flowing with Drama Queens who can only focus on and exaggerate the negative? Or is it all just coincidence?

:silly:

[TheLongshot]

Exactly KJ and JReid have nothing to report because they nor JLC have any connection to the new Redskins front office:ols::ols: It is pretty damn entertaining watching all their "insider info" end up being totally BOGUS:drooley:

JLC never had any connections with the FO. His game has always been about idle speculation and treating it like it was some sort of fact.

[dfbovey]

The part that sucks is that this kind of news doesn't get any play on the major outlets or even the local outlets. They'd rather perpetuate drama to keep people reading than report facts. Instead, we hear it from a paper out of Tennessee. Sports reporting might as well be tabloid reporting for the most part.

[SittingBull]

More proof that no one really knows WTF is really going on.

[Santana_89]

It's funny. Any negative articles about Haynesworth, even if they are completely false, jump to about 10 pages instantly, but this is yet another positive article about Haynesworth, with hardly any discussion in here.

Other articles include: Redskins stating they are not looking to trade Haynesworth, Haynesworth is really a caring guy, and Haynesworth stating he is fine playing in the 3-4.

So, I wonder, is the board over-flowing with Drama Queens who can only focus on and exaggerate the negative? Or is it all just coincidence?

:silly:
Bingo BCS when the latest Haynesworth article from Bubba's breaking news section gets posted here in the Stadium (by the illustrious JLC ) which is nothing that hasn't already been reported already.It will be 10+ pages deep before the end of the evening. Some will continue to get worked up by what JLC's"sources" say until they SEE Haynesworth at mini camp ,then some of them will feel duped.

[THEREALTOR1]

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[dfbovey]

Redskin's Insider just posted their opinion of the article:

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/redskinsinsider/albert-haynesworth/jeff-fisher-gives-non-denial-d.html

[jsteelz]

Awww lets keep giving them stuff to talk about DT Howard Green visiting today .. he 6'2 320 pounds

[fdarugar]

Awww lets keep giving them stuff to talk about DT Howard Green visiting today .. he 6'2 320 pounds

Veteran free agent defensive tackle Howard Green continues his visit with the Washington Redskins today, according to an NFL source with knowledge of the situation. Green, 31, is a 6-foot-2, 320-pound former LSU player who was drafted in the sixth round in the 2002 NFL draft by the Houston Texans. He played last season for the New York Jets and has previous stints with the Seattle Seahawks, Minnesota Vikings, New Orleans Saints and the Baltimore Ravens, in a dozen games last season with the Jets, who made it to the AFC championship game, Green recorded 23 tackles.

Sounds like a scrub

[dfbovey]

If Keamatu is healthy, Green might be a decent option as a back up NT. Which would help minimize the amount of time Haynesworth would have to spend there.

[laurent]

"Here's the deal. If the Titans truly have no interest in Haynesworth, they can say so, loudly and clearly, without running afoul of the tampering rules. Fisher didn't. And that means the door is still open, even if by only a crack."

Great reporting style there. I still cannot for the life of me figure how this tool ended up getting a gig with NBC.

[Hitman21ST]

By the end of the offseason, half the team will consist of defensive linemen...

[GibbsFactor]

Wow, how pathetic is that article. Since he didn't say he's not interested, he must be interested.

Florio needs an enema.

[Blue Collar Skins]

Wow, how pathetic is that article. Since he didn't say he's not interested, he must be interested.

Florio needs an enema. Ummmm....ugh....I got nothing. Don't want to touch that...at all.

[HailToTheRedskins14]

It's funny. Any negative articles about Haynesworth, even if they are completely false, jump to about 10 pages instantly, but this is yet another positive article about Haynesworth, with hardly any discussion in here.

Other articles include: Redskins stating they are not looking to trade Haynesworth, Haynesworth is really a caring guy, and Haynesworth stating he is fine playing in the 3-4.

So, I wonder, is the board over-flowing with Drama Queens who can only focus on and exaggerate the negative? Or is it all just coincidence?

:silly:


I think majority of people have realized it's all been a bunch of BS media speculation so the topic has kinda died. I'm just relieved the people saying "Trade Haynesworth for a 4th rounder" have quieted down.

[D-Day]

Al isn't going anywhere. And I never understood all the hate pft gets. I love that site.

Because people get their panties in bunch over stupid crap. Imagine a rumor site isn't always correct. I know it is shocking.

[D-Day]

It is only tampering if the Titans contacted AH or his agent without permission of the skins. How is a confirming a rumor that the two coaches talked tampering? Or denying the said conversation between the coaches covering up for tampering?

[Santana_89]

Redskin's Insider just posted their opinion of the article:

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/redskinsinsider/albert-haynesworth/jeff-fisher-gives-non-denial-d.html

The comments below were better than the article:ols::ols:.Here's one of the postsI liked the most

I hate the fact that Reid can play "RI superero" and make guys believe that that Campbell or Andre Carter is a sympathetic figure and Portis or Haynesworth is the face of evil.
Reid counts on the dense thinking of some of the fans to stir the sh*t pot.
His act has been played for a little bit now.
Posted by: RedDMV | April 14, 2010 11:28 AM

[Califan007]

It is only tampering if the Titans contacted AH or his agent without permission of the skins. How is a confirming a rumor that the two coaches talked tampering? Or denying the said conversation between the coaches covering up for tampering?

I'm lost on the tampering angle as well lol. How would Fisher and Shanahan/Allen discussing the possibility of a trade for Haynesworth be the equivalent of tampering? Why would Fisher need to claim he never talked to Shanahan in order to avoid any possibility of tampering charges? Has that been explained yet?

[TotalRecall]

Fisher hasn't remained the head coach of the Titans for 16 years without being really, really smart. And he's smart enough to not give the Redskins (or anyone else) ammunition to argue that, in the end, the Titans are hypocrites.

Well, being considered a liar by insiders isn't any better. The most amazing thing here is the 16 years as head coach of the Titans. It doesn't seem that he's been there that long.

[757SeanTaylor21]

If I'm BA, I offer AC and AH for their 1st.

They need a DT like it's nobody's business and they lost VandenBosch...

Their recent success has been due to their defense. If you take that away, they fall apart. It's a deal they have to make IMO.



He took it from The Tennessean...

are you out of your mind?

[Arsenic]

If I'm BA, I offer AC and AH for their 1st.

They need a DT like it's nobody's business and they lost VandenBosch...

Their recent success has been due to their defense. If you take that away, they fall apart. It's a deal they have to make IMO.



He took it from The Tennessean...


Woah! Woah! Haynesworth, alone, isnt worth their first rounder... (in my opinion, of course)


edit: is there a way to end the "media problem" we have? wtf?

[DarrellsMyHero28]

We haven't talked to them?

...maybe because we're not trading him?

[Hitman21ST]

We haven't talked to them?

...maybe because we're not trading him?


That's crazy talk!

[dreamboater]

If we trade Haynesworth for a third I will flip. That would be extremely stupid.

['Skins_&_'Stons]

PFT = :jerk:

[seantaylor=god]

I still think Haynesworth stays unless some team offers us a 1st or multiple seconds/players. The idea we would trade him for anything less infuriates me. If he becomes a serious problem I'd rather bench him then let another team have him for cheap.

[Hitman#21]

KEEP AL! And make the rumors stop!

Thank you very much.

[scottishskinsfan]

Has anyone got an explination how Haynesworth is being touted as being worth a 3rd round pick while Gaither is supposedly worth a high 2nd?

Haynesworth should easily be worth a high 1st.

[dfbovey]

Has anyone got an explination how Haynesworth is being touted as being worth a 3rd round pick while Gaither is supposedly worth a high 2nd?

Haynesworth should easily be worth a high 1st.

Supposedly is the key word here. But yeah, I would imagine that the Redskins would at LEAST be able to get what the Dolphins gave away for Brandon Marshall if they traded Haynesworth.

[VonSway]

Supposedly is the key word here. But yeah, I would imagine that the Redskins would at LEAST be able to get what the Dolphins gave away for Brandon Marshall if they traded Haynesworth.

Not really. Haynesworth doesn't fill stadiums(with fans). The signing of Marshall with the Dolphins suggests they'll actually have an exciting offense or something close to it. Fans don't go crazy over Fatboys.

[stuck_N_virginia]

PFT = :jerk:

[dfbovey]

Not really. Haynesworth doesn't fill stadiums(with fans). The signing of Marshall with the Dolphins suggests they'll actually have an exciting offense or something close to it. Fans don't go crazy over Fatboys.

I don't think most trades are made with what the fans think in mind. The majority of trades are made to improve the football team on the field. DT is considered by most GMs to be a much more important position on the roster than WR.

[Jimbo]

The Skins are NOT actively shopping Haynesworth, therefore they will NOT be contacting other teams. I'm sure they will entertain offers if other teams come calling or his name may come up during discussions regarding trades for other players, as it did with McNabb, but our FO is going going out looking for picks for him.

[RenegadeTK]

i think Fisher would take him back if he had the opportunity.... he's just saying it hasnt presented itself yet.

[dreamboater]

What drives me crazy is the casual fan thinks we should trade Al at any cost. If we get rid of him and even get a high first we would probably have to replace him with that pick so we save absolutely nothing. I understand the issues about him not being here to work out and it bothers me too. But, at some point you have to realize the player you have in Haynesworth. He is an elite DT and when motivated the most dominate defensive player in the game. You dont just trade these guys because they miss voluntary training sessions.