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HeHateMe
April-30th-2010, 11:05 PM
I have a feeling Sicko is going to make this team. Some how, some way.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story?id=09000d5d817e2290&template=with-video-with-comments&confirm=true

All eyes were on Dez Bryant during the Dallas Cowboys' rookie practice Friday. With a considerable amount of media in attendance, Bryant passed his first test with flying colors.

The former Oklahoma State wide receiver capped a good performance with one particularly eye-opening catch. It was the kind of grab that will be played on Dallas-area television stations all weekend.

Bryant ran a deep route in which he stutter-stepped the cornerback down the sideline, then came free. After the 50-yard pass, which fluttered wildly in the wind, finally landed, Bryant turned around twice and came down with the ball in spectacular fashion.

The play elicited a few fist bumps from Cowboys owner Jerry Jones and his family, and Bryant showcased his outstanding talent throughout the session.

But that doesn't mean there isn't plenty to work on for Bryant. His conditioning was noticeably lacking, as was the case with many players in attendance. Bryant must get in better shape to keep up with the fast pace of pro workouts.

Among the other rookies who stood out at the practice, which started at 11:30 a.m. ET, were Toledo safety Barry Church, California offensive tackle Mike Tepper and New Hampshire tight end Scott Sicko, all of whom went undrafted. Church excelled in drills, and Tepper looked like he had really good pop in offensive-line drills. Sicko displayed good hands in catching drills.

All in all, it was a good first practice for the 27 rookies and seven practice-squad members in attendance.

No_Pressure
April-30th-2010, 11:33 PM
Taylor Jacobs had practices Dez Bryant and other WR's could only dream of.

authentic
May-1st-2010, 12:09 AM
Taylor Jacobs had practices Dez Bryant and other WR's could only dream of.

:ols::ols:....i would like to say that you were exaggerating, but you may be actually right.

thebluefood
May-1st-2010, 01:11 AM
Wearing Drew Pearson's old number, no less.

Eh, let's hope it doesn't translate into the actual games.

Who Del
May-1st-2010, 06:25 AM
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The play elicited a few fist bumps from Cowboys owner Jerry Jones and his family, and Bryant showcased his outstanding talent throughout the session.



:lol:

God what a d-bag.

Tom [Giants fan]
May-1st-2010, 07:55 AM
:lol:

God what a d-bag.

Finally, something an Eagles and Giants fan can agree upon.

Oldskool
May-1st-2010, 10:48 AM
Wait, how can you look sharp AND be out of shape at the same time? :ols:

Dez Bryant-WR- Cowboys Apr. 30 - 12:39 pm et


First-round pick Dez Bryant has reportedly "looked out of shape" at Cowboys rookie minicamp.
He's still making big-time plays, though. ESPN's Tim MacMahon points out that Bryant "has caught everything," and has looked "exciting" in punt return drills. Bryant also appeared to be out of shape at his Pro Day in late March. It's scary to think how good he'll be once his conditioning is in order.
Source: Tim MacMahon on Twitter

dallasfan
May-1st-2010, 10:54 AM
Wait, how can you look sharp AND be out of shape at the same time? :ols:

Dez Bryant-WR- Cowboys Apr. 30 - 12:39 pm et


First-round pick Dez Bryant has reportedly "looked out of shape" at Cowboys rookie minicamp.
He's still making big-time plays, though. ESPN's Tim MacMahon points out that Bryant "has caught everything," and has looked "exciting" in punt return drills. Bryant also appeared to be out of shape at his Pro Day in late March. It's scary to think how good he'll be once his conditioning is in order.
Source: Tim MacMahon on Twitter

right now they're saying he's not in football shape, which is understandable.

stickyshooZ
May-1st-2010, 11:21 AM
A lot of rookies aren't in tip top NFL shape, because most of them haven't experienced NFL style workouts.

coolbeans
May-1st-2010, 11:24 AM
Wait, how can you look sharp AND be out of shape at the same time? :ols:

Dez Bryant-WR- Cowboys Apr. 30 - 12:39 pm et


First-round pick Dez Bryant has reportedly "looked out of shape" at Cowboys rookie minicamp.
He's still making big-time plays, though. ESPN's Tim MacMahon points out that Bryant "has caught everything," and has looked "exciting" in punt return drills. Bryant also appeared to be out of shape at his Pro Day in late March. It's scary to think how good he'll be once his conditioning is in order.
Source: Tim MacMahon on Twitter


Did you read past the first sentence or did you just selectively take away what you wanted to hear and ignore the rest?

Soup
May-1st-2010, 12:23 PM
I think of it in a different way, that the cowboys CBs stink.

Runs with Scissors
May-1st-2010, 01:13 PM
So..a first round pick looked good against other lower round picks,UDFAs and practice-squad members.

Isn't he suppose to?

2006Skins
May-1st-2010, 01:22 PM
So..a first round pick looked good against other lower round picks,UDFAs and practice-squad members.

Isn't he suppose to?

Havent you heard he's the next Michael Irvin? Time to drink the koolaid since hes making catches in minicamp:chug:

HOF44
May-1st-2010, 01:46 PM
I think of it in a different way, that the cowboys CBs stink.


Now that's what I like to see, new and fresh perspectives getting to the truth! :applause:

HeHateMe
May-1st-2010, 02:19 PM
Excuse me everyone, I posted this for the reaction to Scott Sicko's standout performance.

TotalRecall
May-1st-2010, 04:13 PM
Wearing Drew Pearson's old number, no less.

Eh, let's hope it doesn't translate into the actual games.

I think JJ forced that number on him. I'm gonna LMAO if he is a bust.

HailGreen28
May-1st-2010, 05:00 PM
So let me get this straight. A Cowpuke loving ex-player, Dion Sanders, illegally recruited a WR. The WR was suspended for a year in college. And now the Pukes draft him with a 1st round pick. Right?

If this were college, wouldn't any football program that pulled this crap face heavy punishment?

coolbeans
May-1st-2010, 05:11 PM
So let me get this straight. A Cowpuke loving ex-player, Dion Sanders, illegally recruited a WR. The WR was suspended for a year in college. And now the Pukes draft him with a 1st round pick. Right?

If this were college, wouldn't any football program that pulled this crap face heavy punishment?


No. Deion and Dez had a meeting, about what I have no clue. Deion is not an agent or doesn't work for any NFL team. He is a member of the media so meeting with Dez in not a violation of any kind. However, when Dez was questioned by the NCAA about it, he lied and said he did not have a meeting with Deion. Dez later said he lied because he thought he must have violated some NCAA rule he was unaware of. His lying is what led to his suspension, not the meeting with Deion. As it all worked out, you may be correct that the whole suspension incident helped him fall to the Cowboys but it should be noted that each of the other teams had all the same info Dallas did and decided to pass on him. There's nothing more to the story except Dallas got extremely lucky and took advantage of it while other teams took passes.

HailGreen28
May-1st-2010, 05:16 PM
No. Deion and Dez had a meeting, about what I have no clue. Deion is not an agent or doesn't work for any NFL team. He is a member of the media so meeting with Dez in not a violation of any kind. However, when Dez was questioned by the NCAA about it, he lied and said he did not have a meeting with Deion. Dez later said he lied because he thought he must have violated some NCAA rule he was unaware of. His lying is what led to his suspension, not the meeting with Deion. As it all worked out, you may be correct that the whole suspension incident helped him fall to the Cowboys but it should be noted that each of the other teams had all the same info Dallas did and decided to pass on him. There's nothing more to the story except Dallas got extremely lucky and took advantage of it while other teams took passes.


Why would lying about the meeting have been a big deal, if it was above-board?

For example: If asked who he had lunch with, and he said one of his teammates, when he actually ate with a classmate, I don't think the NCAA would have suspended him. LOL.

MLSKINS
May-1st-2010, 05:33 PM
Man, this dude is going to make Tony Romo that much better. I hope our secondary have on their running (and tackling) shoes come week one.......

skinsfan_1215
May-1st-2010, 05:34 PM
Man, this dude is going to make Tony Romo that much better. I hope our secondary have on their running (and tackling) shoes come week one.......

Romo isn't going to have time to throw the ball more than 5 yards, so no worries.:evilg:

Oldskool
May-1st-2010, 05:37 PM
Did you read past the first sentence or did you just selectively take away what you wanted to hear and ignore the rest?

I read the entire article and it paints two different pictures. Is that too hard for you to grasp? :ols:

Siven
May-1st-2010, 05:46 PM
Wait, how can you look sharp AND be out of shape at the same time? :ols:



The talent is there for everyone to see and the technical aspects of his game are noticeable, but he's lacking the physical condition to truly showcase the full range of his talents.

I don't think it's very difficult to infer this from what is posted.

coolbeans
May-1st-2010, 06:36 PM
I read the entire article and it paints two different pictures. Is that too hard for you to grasp? :ols:


Whats hard to grasp is someone who can't understand that a player who hasn't dressed out for a real practice in 8-9 months could be a little out of football shape but yet look sharp when actually running routes and catching the football. Being in shape has nothing to do with being sharp when its your turn to go. I still say it was a little selective reading and commenting on your part.

coolbeans
May-1st-2010, 06:43 PM
Why would lying about the meeting have been a big deal, if it was above-board?

For example: If asked who he had lunch with, and he said one of his teammates, when he actually ate with a classmate, I don't think the NCAA would have suspended him. LOL.


Go do a little research about it if you don't believe me. Dez and Deion had dinner. The NCAA has been suspicious of Deion for a while, thinking he is steering college players to his agent. They asked Dez about the dinner and he lied to them about it even taking place. That is why they suspended him. It is obviously considered a serious infraction for a college player to lie to NCAA officials. Its like they automatically consider you guilty if you lie. Dez has said several times he was afraid he had broken a rule and that is why he lied to them. Personally, I don't really see any reason for Deion to be meeting with college players unless he is doing an interview for someone so I think he may very well be trying to build relationships and then steer then to his agent. That can't really be proven but the NCAA found out Dez lied and suspended him.

As far as your example, it is clearly not the same thing. There could not be any NCAA infraction going on during a lunch with a teammate or a classmate except for maybe some gambling issues. If the NCAA felt something like that was going on and he lied about it, he probably would have been suspended as well.

HapHaszard
May-2nd-2010, 06:53 AM
Not sure if this was posted here or not but Mosley at ESPN's blog:

Boys' Bryant out of breath in first practice
http://espn.go.com/blog/nfceast/post/_/id/13774/boys-bryant-out-of-breath-in-first-practice

IRVING, Texas -- The Dallas Cowboys have 24 players attending their 2010 rookie minicamp this weekend, but all eyes were on wide receiver Dez Bryant during Friday's morning practice. The good news for Cowboys fans is that Bryant made several nifty catches, including one where he reached up and snatched the ball with one hand. I also observed Bryant adjusting to a deep ball nicely when one of the quarterbacks threw it over his wrong shoulder.

He was the most talented player on the field, which is a good thing since he was the only first-rounder to make an appearance Friday. But now the bad news: In the eight Cowboys rookie minicamps I've covered over the years, I've never seen a player struggle this much from a conditioning standpoint. Wide receivers coach Ray Sherman made sure that Bryant had plenty of reps in each drill. And it only took about 45 minutes for Bryant to walk over to the sideline and attempt to puke.



I'm sure by the time football season rolls around he will be in shape or riding pine.

Burgundy Burner
May-2nd-2010, 07:20 AM
nice to see that jerruh has invested in two out of shape bozos who can catch a football in practice. we had that years ago - taylor jacobs. who will jessica romo throw to now? time to bring back t.o. - he can drop some passes for ya.

dallasfan
May-2nd-2010, 10:32 AM
So let me get this straight. A Cowpuke loving ex-player, Dion Sanders, illegally recruited a WR. The WR was suspended for a year in college. And now the Pukes draft him with a 1st round pick. Right?

If this were college, wouldn't any football program that pulled this crap face heavy punishment?

wait, are you implying that Deion did this so Bryant would be available when we picked? way to many variables to predict this happening, not to mention the NCAA suspended Bryant for lying about the interaction, which they concluded wasn't out of bounds.

Ken
May-2nd-2010, 10:32 AM
nice to see that jerruh has invested in two out of shape bozos who can catch a football in practice. we had that years ago - taylor jacobs. who will jessica romo throw to now? time to bring back t.o. - he can drop some passes for ya.

How does Taylor Jacobs get in the same conversation as Dez Bryant?

Is this the new slant to help you cope?


The only thing that will affect Dez from having a good rookie season is if he holds out in training camp. That is it...

Judging by how the cowboys historically get their players in camp on time, non issue.

MadMonkey
May-2nd-2010, 10:59 AM
nice to see that jerruh has invested in two out of shape bozos who can catch a football in practice. we had that years ago - taylor jacobs. who will jessica romo throw to now? time to bring back t.o. - he can drop some passes for ya.

I hate the cowboys as much as the next Skins fan, but seriously?

Just about all rookie draft picks have a very tough time acclimating to NFL workouts. Dez' conditioning should be fine as long as he is in practice and signed in time for camp which was already mentioned.

DeMarco Murray 29
May-2nd-2010, 11:38 AM
nice to see that jerruh has invested in two out of shape bozos who can catch a football in practice. we had that years ago - taylor jacobs. who will jessica romo throw to now? time to bring back t.o. - he can drop some passes for ya.

That is quite possibly the most stupid thing I have read in a while.

Who will he throw to?

Um, how about his 6x Pro Bowl Tight end, Jason Witten. Or better yet, how about Miles Austin? He went on to lead the NFC (third overall in the NFL) with 1320 receiving yards for the 2009 season. He was also tied for first in the NFC with 11 receiving touchdowns which was tied for third in the NFL for receiving touchdowns in only starting 11 games in the 2009 season.

... and what Rookie does not come into practice sucking wind? Dez missed half of the season. It's expected for the Rookies to be out of FOOTBALL Shape.

... and from a physical standpoint and based on ability Jacobs couldn't hold Bryant's jock. Period.

HailGreen28
May-2nd-2010, 12:47 PM
Go do a little research about it if you don't believe me. Dez and Deion had dinner. The NCAA has been suspicious of Deion for a while, thinking he is steering college players to his agent. They asked Dez about the dinner and he lied to them about it even taking place. That is why they suspended him. It is obviously considered a serious infraction for a college player to lie to NCAA officials. Its like they automatically consider you guilty if you lie. Dez has said several times he was afraid he had broken a rule and that is why he lied to them. Personally, I don't really see any reason for Deion to be meeting with college players unless he is doing an interview for someone so I think he may very well be trying to build relationships and then steer then to his agent. That can't really be proven but the NCAA found out Dez lied and suspended him.

As far as your example, it is clearly not the same thing. There could not be any NCAA infraction going on during a lunch with a teammate or a classmate except for maybe some gambling issues. If the NCAA felt something like that was going on and he lied about it, he probably would have been suspended as well.No, the reason he was suspended wasn't for just lying. He was suspended for lying about contact with someone with ties to an NFL agent and NFL team. That's the point of my example. Deion Sanders wasn't just a regular college buddy. You're kidding yourself if you think the NCAA would've suspended Bryant if he had lied about contact with just anybody.



wait, are you implying that Deion did this so Bryant would be available when we picked? way to many variables to predict this happening, not to mention the NCAA suspended Bryant for lying about the interaction, which they concluded wasn't out of bounds.Shock and horror that Dallass would do anything underhanded, LOL. A WR gets an NFL mentor. A little controversy to drop the kid's stock. And the pukes get a WR they covet.

I'm not talking hypothetically here. This is EXACTLY how it worked out.

Isn't this kind of tampering illegal in the NFL?

doncherry
May-2nd-2010, 12:59 PM
Shock and horror that Dallass would do anything underhanded, LOL. A WR gets an NFL mentor. A little controversy to drop the kid's stock. And the pukes get a WR they covet.

I'm not talking hypothetically here. This is EXACTLY how it worked out.

Isn't this kind of tampering illegal in the NFL?

good one, pretty funny....I expect these types of conspiracy theories from guys running around in tin foil hats......

HailGreen28
May-2nd-2010, 01:30 PM
good one, pretty funny....I expect these types of conspiracy theories from guys running around in tin foil hats......LOL, I hear ya. Thing is, though, it's not arguing over the results. The **** actually happened.

Burgundy Burner
May-2nd-2010, 01:33 PM
That is quite possibly the most stupid thing I have read in a while.

Who will he throw to?

Um, how about his 6x Pro Bowl Tight end, Jason Witten. Or better yet, how about Miles Austin? He went on to lead the NFC (third overall in the NFL) with 1320 receiving yards for the 2009 season. He was also tied for first in the NFC with 11 receiving touchdowns which was tied for third in the NFL for receiving touchdowns in only starting 11 games in the 2009 season.

... and what Rookie does not come into practice sucking wind? Dez missed half of the season. It's expected for the Rookies to be out of FOOTBALL Shape.

... and from a physical standpoint and based on ability Jacobs couldn't hold Bryant's jock. Period.

You trollboys are good entertainment. so how many passes has bryant and other poke rookies caught in the NFL? uh, the answer would be zero.

dezilu has been out of the game for more than a year. he's had more than enough time to get in shape. he's a head case. enjoy t.o. part 2 without the catches.

maybe dezilu can help you to a 33-3 loss instead of 34-3. :ols:

coolbeans
May-2nd-2010, 01:48 PM
No, the reason he was suspended wasn't for just lying. He was suspended for lying about contact with someone with ties to an NFL agent and NFL team. That's the point of my example. Deion Sanders wasn't just a regular college buddy. You're kidding yourself if you think the NCAA would've suspended Bryant if he had lied about contact with just anybody.


Shock and horror that Dallass would do anything underhanded, LOL. A WR gets an NFL mentor. A little controversy to drop the kid's stock. And the pukes get a WR they covet.

I'm not talking hypothetically here. This is EXACTLY how it worked out.

Isn't this kind of tampering illegal in the NFL?


The NCAA ruled that there was nothing wrong with the meeting but suspended Dez simply for lying about it. They never found any proof that any rules were broken during the meeting. And yes, there would have to be some suspicion of something illegal for the NCAA to even be investigating so there would be no cause to even ask Dez about a lunch with a teammate or classmate.

Deion was not meeting with Dez on the behalf of the Cowboys. The speculation is that he meets with these college players to gain their confidence and then when they have to choose an agent, he steers them to his guy. The Cowboys had nothing at all to do with Dez slipping in the draft, they just took advantage of it when other teams were taking a pass.

coolbeans
May-2nd-2010, 01:50 PM
You trollboys are good entertainment. so how many passes has bryant and other poke rookies caught in the NFL? uh, the answer would be zero.

dezilu has been out of the game for more than a year. he's had more than enough time to get in shape. he's a head case. enjoy t.o. part 2 without the catches.

maybe dezilu can help you to a 33-3 loss instead of 34-3. :ols:


Your posts are stinking of fear as well as wishful thinking and I don't blame you one bit.

Burgundy Burner
May-2nd-2010, 01:55 PM
Your posts are stinking of fear as well as wishful thinking and I don't blame you one bit.

hahahahahahahahaha. another trollboy talking about something he can't comprehend. donovan has a winning record against the pokes and nfc east. so does shanahan.

you see, it is called reality. no one fears son of a bum tubby.

BlueinBuf
May-2nd-2010, 02:18 PM
maybe dezilu can help you to a 33-3 loss instead of 34-3. :ols:

Why would a rookie WR cause the other team to score 1 less point?

coolbeans
May-2nd-2010, 03:48 PM
hahahahahahahahaha. another trollboy talking about something he can't comprehend. donovan has a winning record against the pokes and nfc east. so does shanahan.

you see, it is called reality. no one fears son of a bum tubby.


More fear coming through loud and clear!

MLSKINS
May-2nd-2010, 03:52 PM
My man BB is in mid-season shape already....... I like it.

DeMarco Murray 29
May-2nd-2010, 05:12 PM
You trollboys are good entertainment. so how many passes has bryant and other poke rookies caught in the NFL? uh, the answer would be zero.

dezilu has been out of the game for more than a year. he's had more than enough time to get in shape. he's a head case. enjoy t.o. part 2 without the catches.

maybe dezilu can help you to a 33-3 loss instead of 34-3. :ols:

Head case?!? No, his parents were Head cases.

Dez was a two time All-Academic all american. In case you do not know what that means, well that means he has to be pretty smart.

Well, I would hope the answer would be 0 because they haven't played in a game yet.

In case you didn't know, 4-12 + 0-3 against Dallas last year does not = Success. Not saying it cannot happen but your logic is flawed.

Take the "Trollboys" and childish comments elsewhere. We are here to talk football ... not dish out names.

Ken
May-2nd-2010, 05:48 PM
hahahahahahahahaha. another trollboy talking about something he can't comprehend. donovan has a winning record against the pokes and nfc east. so does shanahan.

you see, it is called reality. no one fears son of a bum tubby.

Donovan has a 3 game losing streak against Dallas.

As Ratliff stated earlier this offseason, "McNabb still has to answer to me twice a year."

DeMarco Murray 29
May-2nd-2010, 11:58 PM
Donovan has a 3 game losing streak against Dallas.

As Ratliff stated earlier this offseason, "McNabb still has to answer to me twice a year."

Darn you trollboy :ols:

Burgundy Burner
May-3rd-2010, 06:05 AM
My man BB is in mid-season shape already....... I like it.

i like it too. :)

as you can see, they are talking about some three game winning streak. if this was the old Redskins, then they may have a point. donovan won't extend this streak. ditto for shanahan.

and they still have a new headcase. :ols:

HailGreen28
May-3rd-2010, 08:31 AM
The NCAA ruled that there was nothing wrong with the meeting but suspended Dez simply for lying about it. They never found any proof that any rules were broken during the meeting. And yes, there would have to be some suspicion of something illegal for the NCAA to even be investigating so there would be no cause to even ask Dez about a lunch with a teammate or classmate.

Deion was not meeting with Dez on the behalf of the Cowboys. The speculation is that he meets with these college players to gain their confidence and then when they have to choose an agent, he steers them to his guy. The Cowboys had nothing at all to do with Dez slipping in the draft, they just took advantage of it when other teams were taking a pass.It certainly worked out well for the Pukes. The team Dion associates himself with more than any other.

And when the best defense is: Dion wasn't doing anything unethical on the pukes behalf, Dion was actually doing something unethical on his agent's behalf......

Doesn't pass the smell test, IMO. Seeing how Dallass benefited from an unscrupulous situation, with an ex-player they have connections to involved. If any evidence comes up that Dion was in contact with Dallass staff about Bryant pre-draft, I think the pukes ought to be penalized a draft pick or two next year.

doncherry
May-3rd-2010, 10:16 AM
It certainly worked out well for the Pukes. The team Dion associates himself with more than any other.

And when the best defense is: Dion wasn't doing anything unethical on the pukes behalf, Dion was actually doing something unethical on his agent's behalf......

Doesn't pass the smell test, IMO. Seeing how Dallass benefited from an unscrupulous situation, with an ex-player they have connections to involved. If any evidence comes up that Dion was in contact with Dallass staff about Bryant pre-draft, I think the pukes ought to be penalized a draft pick or two next year.

there were lots of teams that passed on him before Dallas. Any team could have picked him. Your theory doesn't pass the common sense test.

sjinhan
May-3rd-2010, 10:27 AM
Doesn't pass the smell test, IMO. Seeing how Dallass benefited from an unscrupulous situation, with an ex-player they have connections to involved. If any evidence comes up that Dion was in contact with Dallass staff about Bryant pre-draft, I think the pukes ought to be penalized a draft pick or two next year.

thats just a stupid analysis of what actually happened... It was just poor decision on Deion part especially when he should have known better...

coolbeans
May-3rd-2010, 11:18 AM
It certainly worked out well for the Pukes. The team Dion associates himself with more than any other.

And when the best defense is: Dion wasn't doing anything unethical on the pukes behalf, Dion was actually doing something unethical on his agent's behalf......

Doesn't pass the smell test, IMO. Seeing how Dallass benefited from an unscrupulous situation, with an ex-player they have connections to involved. If any evidence comes up that Dion was in contact with Dallass staff about Bryant pre-draft, I think the pukes ought to be penalized a draft pick or two next year.


It is beyond ridiculous to think there is even 1% chance that Dallas had anything to do with the Deion/Dez meeting. Deion has done it before and the player ended up signing with his agent later. That is where the NCAA suspicion lies, not with any NFL team. As has been stated, your theory doesn't pass the common sense test. At the time the meeting happened, noone even knew what order NFL teams would draft in and you think somehow Jerry Jones concocted a scheme where Deion would have dinner with Dez, Dez would lie to NCAA officials about it, and they would suspend him helping him fall to the Cowboys. Was Dez in on it or not? So he would have to be willing to give up top 5-10 money. Doubt it. If he wasn't in on it, how did Jones and Deion know he would lie about it and that the NCAA would suspend him? It's just soo far out there to even remotely be possible. All that happened is Dallas got lucky and pulled the trigger while every other team sat back and passed on him. Period, end of story!

AsslessChaps
May-3rd-2010, 11:55 AM
Hey ya'll i usually just watch yall on the computer but I got say yall talkin about things but not showin nothin. remember they say a picture is a thousand words? well a video is a million words then. Check this out

http://www.dallascowboys.com/multimedia/multimedia_center.cfm?id=5146D490-EE27-00AD-DB7CEDB5061489A5

I dont know if I put that on there right but you can put the highlighter on in it and put it in your exploerer thing and see it. I just gotta say, he has some great great body control and hands. I think hes to heavy right now they say like 225? he needs to be about 212, like ole mike irvin was. later yall, back to just watchin.

dallasfan
May-3rd-2010, 02:16 PM
Shock and horror that Dallass would do anything underhanded, LOL. A WR gets an NFL mentor. A little controversy to drop the kid's stock. And the pukes get a WR they covet.

I'm not talking hypothetically here. This is EXACTLY how it worked out.

Isn't this kind of tampering illegal in the NFL?

more like shock and horror than anyone thinks that this is even likely. Without the draft order being set (he was suspened mid october), how can all this be predicted? Even with all that happened, if there was a guy New England coveted at the 24th pick, they wouldn't have traded with us, and he'd likely be in Baltimore.

And this isn't tampering because any team still could've taken him despite everything that happened. Even if Deion and Jerry Jones said this was their plan all along, there's still no wrong doing as far as the NFL is concered

DeMarco Murray 29
May-3rd-2010, 04:43 PM
more like shock and horror than anyone thinks that this is even likely. Without the draft order being set (he was suspened mid october), how can all this be predicted? Even with all that happened, if there was a guy New England coveted at the 24th pick, they wouldn't have traded with us, and he'd likely be in Baltimore.

And this isn't tampering because any team still could've taken him despite everything that happened. Even if Deion and Jerry Jones said this was their plan all along, there's still no wrong doing as far as the NFL is concered

Yup.

I am sure before the season Jerry told Dez "Hey, now your going to slide in the draft after we tamper. You can lose millions and millions of dollars plus a lot of guaranteed money. BUT you will play for Dallas and have to miss most of your last collegiate season. Deal?"

mdpell
May-3rd-2010, 04:47 PM
I just hope Landry get's a clean shot at this guy over the middle week one. (and not beat by him doing a double move for a bomb td)

laurent
May-3rd-2010, 04:50 PM
Hall of Fame!

skinsfan_1215
May-3rd-2010, 09:22 PM
Well the media has decided to make Dez Bryant the new Ochocinco/TO/whoever. Every time I get on ESPN there's something new about him. Right now it's a headline about how his mother was arrested in 2009.

As I do with the other media "favorites," I am asking myself why I'm supposed to care. Also, why is he attracting so much of the spotlight? Perhaps because he got draft by America's (favorite bandwagon) Team. :whoknows:

All I know is that I hope he sucks and is out of the spotlight soon. I miss hearing about Tiger Woods and Manny Ramirez.

Burgundy Burner
May-3rd-2010, 10:28 PM
Well the media has decided to make Dez Bryant the new Ochocinco/TO/whoever. Every time I get on ESPN there's something new about him. Right now it's a headline about how his mother was arrested in 2009.

As I do with the other media "favorites," I am asking myself why I'm supposed to care. Also, why is he attracting so much of the spotlight? Perhaps because he got draft by America's (favorite bandwagon) Team. :whoknows:

All I know is that I hope he sucks and is out of the spotlight soon. I miss hearing about Tiger Woods and Manny Ramirez.

yep, and here it is...

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/05/03/dez-bryants-mom-was-arrested-again-in-2009/

rut roh.

and remember, the crack apple may not fall far from the tree. and irvin is trying to offer advice to this headcase. oh, this is too good. :ols:

skinsfan_1215
May-3rd-2010, 11:10 PM
yep, and here it is...

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/05/03/dez-bryants-mom-was-arrested-again-in-2009/

rut roh.

and remember, the crack apple may not fall far from the tree. and irvin is trying to offer advice to this headcase. oh, this is too good. :ols:

How the hell did her SECOND offense for SELLING crack net her 10 years probation? That's just crazy... My dream scenario... Deion Sanders, acting as an agent for the Dallas Cowboys, paid for the mother's lawyer. NFL investigates, finds the Cowboys responsible. Huge repercussions. Draft picks taken away. Fines galore!

coolbeans
May-4th-2010, 07:26 AM
How the hell did her SECOND offense for SELLING crack net her 10 years probation? That's just crazy... My dream scenario... Deion Sanders, acting as an agent for the Dallas Cowboys, paid for the mother's lawyer. NFL investigates, finds the Cowboys responsible. Huge repercussions. Draft picks taken away. Fines galore!


I hear they are hiding Obama's Birth Certificate in the glove compartment of a flying saucer at Area 51 and it's being gaurded by Bigfoot and the Lochness Monster. You should look into it and stop wasting your time outlandish theories!:ols::ols::ols:

skinsfan_1215
May-4th-2010, 09:55 AM
I hear they are hiding Obama's Birth Certificate in the glove compartment of a flying saucer at Area 51 and it's being gaurded by Bigfoot and the Lochness Monster. You should look into it and stop wasting your time outlandish theories!:ols::ols::ols:

I totally would but how will I get past with guards? Bigfoot and the Loch Ness Monster are no pushovers.;):ols:

doncherry
May-4th-2010, 10:40 AM
this thread seems to have taken an interesting, albeit bizarre turn...

Riggo#44
May-4th-2010, 12:36 PM
I totally would but how will I get past with guards? Bigfoot and the Loch Ness Monster are no pushovers.;):ols:

http://i.ytimg.com/vi/9cn7xfBpZ3M/0.jpg

Now, all you need to do is give that Loch Ness Monster about tree-fiddy.

HailGreen28
May-4th-2010, 08:34 PM
Yup.

I am sure before the season Jerry told Dez "Hey, now your going to slide in the draft after we tamper. You can lose millions and millions of dollars plus a lot of guaranteed money. BUT you will play for Dallas and have to miss most of your last collegiate season. Deal?"I'm not saying the kid didn't get screwed. I'm saying thanks to Dion's tampering, it worked out well for the Pukes. And maybe Dion's sugar-coating it to the kid with his typical used-car salesman smile: "Don't worry, kid. PRIIIIIIIIIIIIIIME TIME and the boys'll take care of you."

No doubt Dion tampered. No doubt the pukes benefited. There's no way to tell exactly how much was planned. Or how much was luck. At best, it's sleazy. At worse, the pukes should be punished. (Like say lose a #1 like the cheatriots did.)

coolbeans
May-4th-2010, 08:57 PM
I'm not saying the kid didn't get screwed. I'm saying thanks to Dion's tampering, it worked out well for the Pukes. And maybe Dion's sugar-coating it to the kid with his typical used-car salesman smile: "Don't worry, kid. PRIIIIIIIIIIIIIIME TIME and the boys'll take care of you."

No doubt Dion tampered. No doubt the pukes benefited. There's no way to tell exactly how much was planned. Or how much was luck. At best, it's sleazy. At worse, the pukes should be punished. (Like say lose a #1 like the cheatriots did.)


You still have no idea what you're talking about. First off, Deion did not tamper. The NCAA concluded there was no rules violation of any kind in regards to Deion and Dez having a meeting. If Deion was in fact doing something "sleazy" it was on behalf of his agent not the Cowboys. For the third or fourth time, all the Cowboys did was pull the trigger and make the pick when every other team passed or sat back and did nothing. Did they get lucky? Yes. Is there any more to the story? No!

HailGreen28
May-5th-2010, 08:23 AM
You still have no idea what you're talking about. First off, Deion did not tamper. The NCAA concluded there was no rules violation of any kind in regards to Deion and Dez having a meeting. If Deion was in fact doing something "sleazy" it was on behalf of his agent not the Cowboys. For the third or fourth time, all the Cowboys did was pull the trigger and make the pick when every other team passed or sat back and did nothing. Did they get lucky? Yes. Is there any more to the story? No!So he "might" have been doing something for his agent, and the NCAA was perfectly fine with that. Hence the player getting a years suspension for lying about contact with Dion.

For the third or fourth time, it's at best a sleazy affair that Dion's beloved pukes benefited from. At worst, the pukes should be punished for being involved in a tampering case.

doncherry
May-5th-2010, 08:44 AM
So he "might" have been doing something for his agent, and the NCAA was perfectly fine with that. Hence the player getting a years suspension for lying about contact with Dion.

For the third or fourth time, it's at best a sleazy affair that Dion's beloved pukes benefited from. At worst, the pukes should be punished for being involved in a tampering case.

Deion is no longer affiliated with Dallas. He finished his career with Baltimore. He also played for Washington, AFTER Dallas. Dude, you're grasping.

coolbeans
May-5th-2010, 10:07 AM
So he "might" have been doing something for his agent, and the NCAA was perfectly fine with that. Hence the player getting a years suspension for lying about contact with Dion.

For the third or fourth time, it's at best a sleazy affair that Dion's beloved pukes benefited from. At worst, the pukes should be punished for being involved in a tampering case.


What is soo hard to understand? The NCAA has suspected Deion of approaching and befriending college players who he later steers to his agent. Several college players linked to Deion in the past have ended up signing with his agent. That is what the NCAA was investigating. They found no proof of any wrongdoing which is not surprising because it would take either Deion or Dez to admit to some kind of infraction. Obviously noone is going to admit to that. I don't know where you get this Deion has close ties to Jerry and the Cowboys thing. I can't really remember a single time since Deion left the Cowboys that he has been back or showed up at camp or anything like that unless it was in some official capacity as a sportscaster. He is not like Michael Irvin in that regard. I guess you forgot he played for the skins and ravens AFTER Dallas. I propose maybe he was doing it on the skins or ravens behalf. Thats just as likely.

Just so we're clear. You think Dallas should not have been allowed to draft a sliding Dez Bryant because one of their former players had a role in his suspension that led to his sliding in the draft. Is that what you're saying? So the Falcons, 49ers, Cowboys, skins, and Ravens should have been barred from the NFL from drafting Bryant because they may have played a part in getting him suspended. Why is you're focus just on the Cowboys? It could have just as easily been anyone of those teams Deion used to play for wanting him to slide so they could move into position to get him later than the top 10.

Burgundy Burner
May-9th-2010, 12:28 PM
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/05/09/some-think-cowboys-are-gushing-too-much-about-dez-bryant/



Perhaps the Cowboys are opting for positive reinforcement with Bryant, talking him up in the hopes that he won't let them down. Privately, we've heard whispers that the team was concerned by his level of fitness -- and by the fact that he would sleep between practices to the point where they had trouble waking him up.

We're told he also had an excuse for everything that went wrong. When he seemed to be out of shape, he claimed that he didn't warm up. When he twisted an ankle, he blamed it on the fact that he was wearing new cleats.

As a result, we're not sure that it makes sense for the team to kiss his ass so publicly, especially since he's represented by the same agent who tried to blow out the slotting process for Michael Crabtree in 2009. Sure, Bryant looked great at time against other rookies and assorted slapdicks. When the veterans show up, things could be much different. With Jones, Phillips, and Sherman pumping Bryant up, they could in reality be setting him up for a spectacular collapse.


Dez "Slapdick" Bryant. :ols:

kudos to Florio for the new nickname. time to make it stick. :ols:

esloan
May-9th-2010, 04:44 PM
http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/spt/football/cowboys/stories/050810dnspotaylor.3223736.html


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DESOTO – At first, the only sounds emanating from the DeSoto High School weight room are the personal trainer's instructions and Dez Bryant's heavy breathing.

A few minutes later, hip-hop music with the bass so deep it distorts the lyrics drowns out Bryant's grunts as he lifts weights.

This isn't fun. It's drudgery. It hurts.

Boy, does it hurt.

And Bryant hasn't even gone outside yet for 30 minutes of sprints, backpedaling and other cardiovascular exercises on this steamy weekday afternoon.

This is the cost of success.

Bryant wants to be the NFL's Rookie of the Year. He wants to score at least 10 touchdowns. He wants bragging rights concerning a couple of friendly wagers he has made with close friends regarding his performance for the Cowboys this season.

Most of all, he wants to have a season that all of the haters, doubters and critics will never, ever forget.

While he remains thankful the Cowboys selected him with the 24th pick of the first round after a trade with New England, Bryant is determined to show folks that he should've been among the top 10 players selected in last month's NFL draft.

To accomplish those goals, he must put in the work it requires to succeed. He'd rather be sleeping, shopping for sneakers or playing video games with his posse of one: Carl King, his best friend since the third grade.

Fun must wait.

He knows the next round of minicamps will be more difficult because he'll be competing against Pro Bowl cornerbacks such as Terence Newman and Mike Jenkins, and nickel cornerback Orlando Scandrick, who's playing for a big raise.

They will test him mentally and physically. Bryant wants to make sure he's ready for it.

"This is where I make it happen," says Bryant, taking off a Michael Irvin T-shirt commemorating Irvin's 2007 induction into the Pro Football Hall of Fame.

"It's going to pay off when I return those kicks and punts for touchdowns this season. People see the money and cars, but they don't see this. The other stuff ain't free. This is how I have to pay for it.

"This is a grind, but it's worth it. I can't wait to play. I missed it."

Bryant didn't like the characterizations from last week's rookie minicamp that he was out of shape, though he received rave reviews from Wade Phillips.

Yes, he was bent over – hands on knees – between plays. Yes, he was breathing heavily after each play.

He needs to get in better shape, but Bryant wants everyone to know that each time he lined up, he went 100 percent.

All out. Full bore.

Bryant said it's the only way he knows how to play. No matter how hard he gets hit, or even if he leaves his breakfast on the practice field, Bryant said his effort remains the same.

That's among the reasons he and Oklahoma State receivers coach Gunter Brewer spent hours immersed in the Cowboys' playbook before the rookie minicamp.

"I didn't want to make any mistakes," he says. "I wanted to make sure I knew what I was doing. Then it's just playing football."

Bryant received plenty of criticism as NFL personnel scrutinized every facet of his life after the NCAA suspended him for lying about a meeting with Deion Sanders. But no teammate, scout or coach ever complained about his work ethic.

It's beyond reproach.

It's his time-management skills that must be improved. NFL coaches don't tolerate tardiness.

"I've known football was hard work since I started playing," he says. "Anybody who ever got a college scholarship got it because he worked hard. You earn a college scholarship.

"I worked hard to be good in college, and I'm going to work hard to be good in the NFL."

Sounds like he is working hard to improve his conditioning. Sounds like a man on a mission.

But who knows? He could start fast and flame out or he could start fast and never slow down. We will see in the seasons to come.

I will say, as a Cowboys fan, I am more excited to see him play than any other draft pick we have had in the last few seasons. Of course, the fact that we have Miles Austin, Jason Witten, Patrick Crayton and, yes, even Roy Williams, takes a lot of the pressure off Bryant to perform immediately.

Burgundy Burner
May-11th-2010, 06:19 AM
let the excuses begin. there will be many. i can hear it now...

"even though dezilu played in just nine games and had three catches, he could've been rookie of the year..."

"dezilu is going to become the greatest ever. his rookie year is not a true measure of what is to come..."

"get rid of garrett and dezilu has a least 110 catches this year and not three..."

"get rid of tubby wade and dezilu has a least 110 catches this year and not three..."

"if we had an offensive line, dezilu would've been all pro his first season..."

let a new headcase era with the pokes begin. :ols:

doncherry
May-11th-2010, 08:17 AM
let the excuses begin. there will be many. i can hear it now...

"even though dezilu played in just nine games and had three catches, he could've been rookie of the year..."

"dezilu is going to become the greatest ever. his rookie year is not a true measure of what is to come..."

"get rid of garrett and dezilu has a least 110 catches this year and not three..."

"get rid of tubby wade and dezilu has a least 110 catches this year and not three..."

"if we had an offensive line, dezilu would've been all pro his first season..."

let a new headcase era with the pokes begin. :ols:

Dezilu is your idea of a clever nickname?

DefenderoftheStar
May-13th-2010, 09:58 AM
Dezilu is your idea of a clever nickname?


Did you see their recent crop of WR's, nothing clever comes out of there.
I think Dallas scored gold with Dez and most are attributing the hype to get over the so called "Moss over" but I was glad Dallas didnt take Moss. Its not like we had anyone to throw to him and its not like one WR was going to make a difference for the team back than.

I like how things have played out now and I like what we got on the field already. We have some new faces that will be emerging on the roster for next year and new talent to groom and hopefully our drafts will be just to find new talent instead of plugging vacant gaps.

Dez looked good for a rookie and thats the best that can be said. Yes it will be totally different when he has to face the CB's in TC, but at least now he has a small taste of what NFL practices will be like. I dont expect him to do much this year, but if he takes over mid year, thats fine too.

Skin'Em84
May-13th-2010, 10:41 AM
I just hope Scott Sicko makes the team. So I can the Cowboys have at least 1 sicko on their team, and no one can argue me.

DefenderoftheStar
May-13th-2010, 10:05 PM
I just hope Scott Sicko makes the team. So I can the Cowboys have at least 1 sicko on their team, and no one can argue me.


I am hoping yet another TE skin fans will be jealous of. I just love the line of great TE's that has come from this team.

Seabee1973
May-14th-2010, 12:53 AM
I think of it in a different way, that the cowboys CBs stink.

They pnly had practrice dummies out there no way they would have him embarrasing himself infront of people

DeadExField
May-14th-2010, 01:14 AM
I am hoping yet another TE skin fans will be jealous of. I just love the line of great TE's that has come from this team.

I think I like our depth at TE better here in Washington, but collectively both teams do outweigh the rest of the NFCE in TEs. No doubt

:logo:

Burgundy Burner
May-14th-2010, 10:59 PM
I think Dallas scored gold with Dez...

nah - more like lead in the shape of a horseshoe that is stuck up his posterior. he will proudly wear it and represent the pink star accordingly.