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BurgundyBlog
May-24th-2010, 06:17 PM
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the redskins returned to action today for another set of OTAs that will run through the first half of this week. the recent buzz has, of course, centered around the Santana Moss Controversy, and its implications on our much-maligned passing attack. today, however, i have been thinking about another, even more exciting method of point-scoring, one that will (barring dramatic turnaround) likely be accounting yet again for the majority of our offense… the kicking game!
we finished up last season with graham gano manning the PK spot. he’s a young guy who starred in college at florida state, then had a brief stint in camp with the ravens before catching on and making a few kicks (including a league record-long 53-yarder) for the las vegas locomotives of the UFL. the skins gave him another NFL chance after finally ending the masochistic Shaun Suisham Era, and for us he made all four field goal attempts, with a long of 46 yards, and was 6/7 on PATs with one blocked.
gano’s competition is justin medlock, another college stud who actually got drafted (in the fifth) by kansas city in 2007. he flamed out in camp, then had a cup of coffee with the rams, then finally found a home with the toronto argonauts, where his claim to fame was nailing all seven attempts in a single game (which must have been a thrilling one to watch). that effort did generate a highlight reel, (http://www.argonauts.ca/video/index/id/7969) which is saying something for a kicker. medlock is very unique for his position in that he is a) left-footed, and b) black, which puts him in a sports demographic roughly as populated as “guys drafted for good value by vinny cerrato.”
i like that both guys are young and relatively free of emotional baggage, and also that both have excelled at some points in their young careers. and my favorite part about both of them is that they are not shaun suisham, whose maddening shank fetish made me want to tear my own lips off with a Chip Clip. gano showed some nice composure (albeit in meaningless games) in his few opportunities in 2009. medlock is supposed to have a big leg and can apparently double as a punter in a pinch, which is an added bonus. matt terl (http://blog.redskins.com/) has an interesting piece today about new punter josh bidwell never having held for a lefty, which could have some major implications on medlock’s ability to make this team, regardless of his accuracy.
while it would be nice to have a more reliable veteran at this important but routinely mocked position, i’m pretty satisfied to have two young guys with decent upside battling it out, as long as neither one is in any way related to, and preferably has never touched or even stood within 100 feet of, the likes of one shaun christopher suisham.
http://broodingburgundy.com/post/629240435/kickers
Dan T.
May-24th-2010, 07:38 PM
I have a strange comfort level with Gano as the incumbent.
I say strange because even though his college credentials are impeccable, he hasn't really done much of anything so far in the NFL.
Alcoholic Zebra
May-24th-2010, 07:50 PM
I have a strange comfort level with Gano as the incumbent.
I say strange because even though his college credentials are impeccable, he hasn't really done much of anything so far in the NFL.
I feel the same way. He hasn't done anything...but I'm very content having him be our kicker.
Pretty odd, maybe it's just one of those feelings that turns out to be true kinda thing...
KDawg
May-24th-2010, 07:50 PM
I can't get passed the lower case typing to actually read it. Sorry brother. Not trying to be an ass, just wanted to be honest with you.
jnhay
May-24th-2010, 07:55 PM
I can't get past the lower case typing to actually read it. Sorry brother. Not trying to be an ass, just wanted to be honest with you.
I didn't even notice until I read this post. What's with that? It's not hard to capitalize.
terpskins10
May-24th-2010, 07:56 PM
I can't get passed the lower case typing to actually read it. Sorry brother. Not trying to be an ass, just wanted to be honest with you.
Agreed. I know I (and a few others) suggested it when he first made the thread announcing his blog. Using proper formatting is going to make it a lot more professional looking and better to read.
Mr. Sinister
May-24th-2010, 08:00 PM
I'm always confident in a guy who's nickname is "Onions." It just screams words like automatic, money, and can't miss
DGREENHULK
May-24th-2010, 08:05 PM
Yeah the lower case delivery does take away from an otherwise well thought out post....I just want a kicker that I don't have to say 3 HAIL MARRY'S before every kick or have to stand in front of the TV and pull a Carlton Fisk and will the ball to be good.....May the best man win right or left footed.
chipwhich
May-24th-2010, 08:23 PM
I can't get passed the lower case typing to actually read it. Sorry brother. Not trying to be an ass, just wanted to be honest with you.
I cant get passed it either. But that's in the past. Passed over by the past. ;)
KDawg
May-24th-2010, 08:28 PM
I cant get passed it either. But that's in the past. Passed over by the past. ;)
I always struggle with which version of passed (past) to use there. Past refers to a time period, so I wouldn't think that would work there. But passed looks strange as hell there. *shrug*
Dan T.
May-24th-2010, 08:36 PM
I feel the same way. He hasn't done anything...but I'm very content having him be our kicker.
Pretty odd, maybe it's just one of those feelings that turns out to be true kinda thing...
The problem for me is...I had the same "feeling" about Durant Brooks as our punter last year!
pvkeeper19
May-24th-2010, 09:00 PM
I like Gano. I'm also uncomfortable with Medlock, because Bidwell talked about being uncomfortable holding for a lefty.
Plus, Gano's got a cannon leg. I hope we keep him around.
I always struggle with which version of passed (past) to use there. Past refers to a time period, so I wouldn't think that would work there. But passed looks strange as hell there. *shrug*
FYI: "Passed" is the past tense of the verb "to pass." In the sentence in question, the correct word is "past," the adverb.
SkinsTribeVA
May-24th-2010, 10:18 PM
You mention that Medlock can double as a punter. That may be so, but Gano was both the full time kicker and punter for Florida State in college, so I'd say he's got the edge on versatility.
Cool write up though, I had totally forgotten about the kicking competition. I just hope we find some stability there, no matter who it is.
terpfan
May-24th-2010, 10:24 PM
I always struggle with which version of passed (past) to use there. Past refers to a time period, so I wouldn't think that would work there. But passed looks strange as hell there. *shrug*
I would think "past" is correct, as "get past" is a shorter way of saying "put it in the past"? I'm no linguist though.
Laxpunk2006
May-24th-2010, 10:33 PM
You mention that Medlock can double as a punter. That may be so, but Gano was both the full time kicker and punter for Florida State in college, so I'd say he's got the edge on versatility.
Cool write up though, I had totally forgotten about the kicking competition. I just hope we find some stability there, no matter who it is.
I never knew this about Gano. That could come in handy if we run into another situation like last year with a punter getting injured during the season. Hopefully that could prevent us from having to waste an extra spot of a punter for that week or two.
I also never realized Medlock was black. You don't see a lot of black kickers.
hoskins
May-24th-2010, 11:30 PM
The problem with Medlock is if the punter is hurt, then you've got someone else out there in the middle of a season or even a game trying to learn this backwards hold.
Or let's say the punter isn't working out and you want to make a change there. Now you have to weight better punting against screwing up the kicking game.
I feel bad for the kid, but it seems a lot smarter to just go with the normal right legged kicker.
michiskin
May-25th-2010, 12:23 AM
I feel Gano is going to be the kicker. They just brought in the other guy to push him a little. We really need to find a young guy we can stick with for the next 5-10 years. The last one was Lohmiller in 89 for goodness sake. And during that time we cut Nedny and Akers. Ugh.
And I have to agree about the capitalization thing. It's pretty simple: if you're at the beginning of a sentence, hit the 'shift' key. If you're trying to start a trend, don't count on it catching on.
Otherwise, it's not a bad effort for a blog.
BadKarma
May-25th-2010, 12:36 AM
Rooting for Gano, the guy has the pedigree and the leg, as with all kickers it comes down to clutch kicking and I think Onions will shine in pre-season.
At least we are finally going young, was so sick of the mid career kickers, I think its better to develop a guy and stick with him than rotate in the latest guy off the FA list.
Mark The Homer
May-25th-2010, 06:21 AM
I can't get passed the lower case typing to actually read it. Sorry brother. Not trying to be an ass, just wanted to be honest with you.
I agree.
OP - you might have some smart things to say, but people are going to look at the text and immediately dismiss you as an idiot and move on. It might be unfair and it might be untrue, but that is the fact.
Stugein
May-25th-2010, 06:39 AM
I agree.
OP - you might have some smart things to say, but people are going to look at the text and immediately dismiss you as an idiot and move on. It might be unfair and it might be untrue, but that is the fact.
Whats odd too is that he seems to pick his spots for capitalization. Like some titleage and proper names he capitalizes.."Santana Moss Controversy", "Shaun Suisham Era" and even "Chip Clip". But other proper nouns, "redskins", "matt terl", "toronto argonauts", etc...he doesn't. I haven't yet figured out his qualifications for being allowed to capitalize something...
In any case yeah..it may have been a neat writing gimmick some time in the past, but the Internet has kind of ruined it, pal. It might not be fair, but the first thought that pops into my head when I look at it is that I'm reading something written by a 12 year old. Then I read it and I'm shocked that there's no usage of "u", "ur", "lolz" or "omg"s.
KDawg
May-25th-2010, 06:41 AM
Whats odd too is that he seems to pick his spots for capitalization. Like some titleage and proper names he capitalizes.."Santana Moss Controversy", "Shaun Suisham Era" and even "Chip Clip". But other proper nouns, "redskins", "matt terl", "toronto argonauts", etc...he doesn't. I haven't yet figured out his qualifications for being allowed to capitalize something...
I noticed the exact same. There's no rhyme or reason as to what he's capitalizing or why he's doing it. Why is OTA capitalized but the name of the team we love is not capitalized?
Again, please don't take this as me being an ass. I just wanted to be up front and honest with you, OP.
SWFLSkins
May-25th-2010, 07:12 AM
I would think "past" is correct, as "get past" is a shorter way of saying "put it in the past"? I'm no linguist though.
Your discussion of this is quite cunning. ;)
Yeah and if the readership as a whole does not demand proper formatting the world is heading toward idocracy, oh wait.
brianm23
May-25th-2010, 07:21 AM
The fat lazy Haynesworth is a no good son of.....oh, it's not one of those threads? Sorry. I do like Gano and hope he does well. I was kind of surprised he didn't catch on to another NFL team before we got him. Hopefully he continues the good fortune for us.
I'm still laughing at the Browns for signing that bum Suisham. They must be planning on throwing some games this year. :ols:
Dblock804
May-25th-2010, 07:37 AM
OP- Please see post #20. You have to love a guy who's code name is Onions. The truth of the matter is a great kicker is hard to find.
BurgundyBlog
May-25th-2010, 08:27 AM
thanks everyone for taking the time to read my post. i sense that at least a few people find it to be of some interest.
it comes as no surprise that my capitalization scheme is yet again a focal point. as i've said before, i can definitely understand why it might raise an eyebrow; it just happens to be the way i like my type to be seen.
my concern at this point isn't that some people dislike it - because i realize that no blogger can please everyone, and that it's important to trust my instincts - but that this stylepoint that i considered to be very minor might actually be distracting a great many of you from my content. and that, i agree, would be a major deficiency.
it would be silly for me to refuse to even consider the idea of adapting... so i will consider it.
Dan T.
May-25th-2010, 08:59 AM
So it's just a style choice? I don't get it. Do you really think it's worth it, given the negative attention it brings?
Good content. Distracting presentation. :whoknows:
Oldfan
May-25th-2010, 01:08 PM
... it would be silly for me to refuse to even consider the idea of adapting... so i will consider it.
readers with a conservative bent don't like change
for them, your lack of capitals will be a distraction
i don't have a problem with it because i write rough drafts in the style you see here
long ago, paper was expensive
so there was a need to conserve space by jamming sentences together
capitals at the beginning and periods at the end helped us keep sentences isolated
we don't need those devices anymore
but it will probably be a hundred years before we dump them
the baseball "batting average" has been around for a century
it never was an average, but that's what people started calling it
it's a tradition
it doesn't matter that it's stupid
a unique style of punctuation can set you apart from the crowd
it did that for poet e e cummings
BurgundyBlog
May-25th-2010, 01:11 PM
alright, i did some soul-searching and had an epiphany: this blog isn't about me. it's about the people.
and the people have spoken.
stay tuned for brand spanking new, grammatically impeccable BroodingBurgundy.com.
Dan T.
May-25th-2010, 01:11 PM
oldfan, you're such a maverick!
Oldfan
May-25th-2010, 01:39 PM
alright, i did some soul-searching and had an epiphany: this blog isn't about me. it's about the people.
and the people have spoken.
stay tuned for brand spanking new, grammatically impeccable BroodingBurgundy.com.
Boooooo!:D
addicted
May-25th-2010, 01:49 PM
Manuvering around all of the wannabe grammer policemen filling up this thread, I read and enjoyed the post. You guys need to chill with that. Internet talk is filled with a lack of capital letters. It happens.
Now not to bring race into our kicking subject, you get the credit for that since I had no idea that one of our kickers is black, my question to everyone is this...
How many Black FG kickers have we ever had start for us?
I can't think of any let alone a black left footed kicker. You all can pull for Gano, I'm going for Mr. Medlock
KDawg
May-25th-2010, 01:56 PM
Manuvering around all of the wannabe grammer policemen filling up this thread, I read and enjoyed the post. You guys need to chill with that. Internet talk is filled with a lack of capital letters. It happens.
Don't tell me to chill. It was advice. He can take it or leave it. You don't have to like what I said, neither does he. It was criticism. I couldn't get through the post to read it, so I said so. I didn't say it to hurt his feeling or be an *******.
addicted
May-25th-2010, 02:38 PM
Don't tell me to chill. It was advice. He can take it or leave it. You don't have to like what I said, neither does he. It was criticism. I couldn't get through the post to read it, so I said so. I didn't say it to hurt his feeling or be an *******.
Haha ok dude, ok.
Thanks for finding the meat of my post and answering the question I asked which was Redskins related to move this along to discuss our kickers which was the point of this thread.
Instead of getting all defensive about what I said since you really don't have to like what I said either and you could have taken what I said as critism and advice too (see how I did that) next time don't take things so personal. If I want to get personal with you I'd say "hey KDawg", I didn't. Since you reacted like that it really makes you look silly.
kevinklein
May-25th-2010, 02:41 PM
Masochistic is truly the best word to describe the Shaun Suisham 'era'.
kevinklein
May-25th-2010, 02:42 PM
Don't tell me to chill. It was advice. He can take it or leave it. You don't have to like what I said, neither does he. It was criticism. I couldn't get through the post to read it, so I said so. I didn't say it to hurt his feeling or be an *******.
Wow, Mr. Personal.
He said 'you guys', insinuating a plethora of posters. Failure to identify that speaks to a special level of incomprehension.
KDawg
May-25th-2010, 04:09 PM
Haha ok dude, ok.
Thanks for finding the meat of my post and answering the question I asked which was Redskins related to move this along to discuss our kickers which was the point of this thread.
Instead of getting all defensive about what I said since you really don't have to like what I said either and you could have taken what I said as critism and advice too (see how I did that) next time don't take things so personal. If I want to get personal with you I'd say "hey KDawg", I didn't. Since you reacted like that it really makes you look silly.
When I quoted you it was prior to your edit, therefore I commented on your entire post.
Wow, Mr. Personal.
He said 'you guys', insinuating a plethora of posters. Failure to identify that speaks to a special level of incomprehension.
You guys refers to all, thus implicating me. I identify that he also included others as well, and again, that's fine. What I posted, as well as a few others was to help the OP, not to hurt him. His blog is just starting out and now is the time to give feedback. If you like his style (you meaning anyone) let him know. Zero need to throw insults around, whether to me or anyone else giving feedback.
I just forced myself through and his content is good, that style isn't for me.
Peregrine
May-26th-2010, 11:57 AM
Yeah the whole lack of capitalization is annoying, it makes it a lot harder to read. The very purpose of punctuation/capitalization is readability and proper communication of ideas. As it is, it takes more effort to read his blog. A period means an end of sentence, a comma doesn't, but both look fairly similar. Normally that isn't much of an issue because a period is followed by an extra space and a capital letter, making it much easier to read quickly through a persons thoughts.
BurgundyBlog
May-26th-2010, 01:51 PM
Yeah the whole lack of capitalization is annoying, it makes it a lot harder to read. The very purpose of punctuation/capitalization is readability and proper communication of ideas. As it is, it takes more effort to read his blog. A period means an end of sentence, a comma doesn't, but both look fairly similar. Normally that isn't much of an issue because a period is followed by an extra space and a capital letter, making it much easier to read quickly through a persons thoughts.
this argument is a cogent one. as i said, if my content has resonated with you at all, please stay tuned. change is afoot.
Stadium-Armory
May-27th-2010, 10:36 AM
I like the kicker.
I can't stand the character formatting of the author. Its not hip, its just hard to read. Makes my eyes "stop". Friendly advice :)
skinznsoxrox
May-27th-2010, 11:12 AM
The problem with Medlock is if the punter is hurt, then you've got someone else out there in the middle of a season or even a game trying to learn this backwards hold.
Or let's say the punter isn't working out and you want to make a change there. Now you have to weight better punting against screwing up the kicking game.
I feel bad for the kid, but it seems a lot smarter to just go with the normal right legged kicker.
I literally have no idea what you are trying to say here
Hitman21ST
May-27th-2010, 11:34 AM
How many Black FG kickers have we ever had start for us?
How many black kickers are there, period?
Stugein
May-27th-2010, 11:40 AM
How many black kickers are there, period?
None right now. You wouldn't need two whole hands to count the number that there have been.
Flame2Flames
May-27th-2010, 11:41 AM
Personally i liked the way you wrote it out. the content was good in my opinion and i found it very informative.
scruffylookin
May-27th-2010, 11:46 AM
Boy, alot of hate for the all time leader in field goal percentage in team history.
People can hate on Suisham all they want but trying to make him the equivilent of Max Zendejas or Ola Kimron is stretching it.
As for the current guys trying to replace Suisham, I'm no more excited about them as I was with Shaun in 2006 (who was 6 of 7 or something like that) at the end of that season or Jeff Chandler in 2004 when I think he finished that season after signing with us a perfect 5 for 5 I believe.
Point is, let's all just wait and see. Like I said, we have people ripping on Shaun Suisham and he's actually the most successful kicker we've had since Chip Lohmiller (and as mentioned, the all time franchise leader in FG percentage). Hate to see what happens WHEN Gano or this other kicker misses a couple of kicks in a game. Will it be cut time for them and move on to the next "latest and greatest" guy for some fans? Probably.
Hitman21ST
May-27th-2010, 11:50 AM
Boy, alot of hate for the all time leader in field goal percentage in team history.
Like I said, we have people ripping on Shaun Suisham and he's actually the most successful kicker we've had since Chip Lohmiller (and as mentioned, the all time franchise leader in FG percentage).
He might be the all time leader in FG%, but where is he when it actually counts? When he misses two chip shot FGs that would have won games, there's no excuse for that.
The Dude
May-27th-2010, 01:39 PM
this argument is a cogent one. as i said, if my content has resonated with you at all, please stay tuned. change is afoot.
Simple solution to capitalize your post:
1. Paste text into Microsoft Word
2. Highlight text
3. Press shift + F3
You'll have to change the player names yourself, but this is a start.
Stugein
May-27th-2010, 01:41 PM
He changed it already for subsequent posts. Move on, folks.
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