NY Post.com: Pregnant ex suing NFL star

[TK]

http://www.nypost.com/p/pagesix/pregnant_ex_suing_nfl_star_wAQtcZIMdFaM4QRa15D8KM

Pregnant ex suing NFL star

Washington Redskins star Albert Haynesworth is being sued for $10 million by a Brooklyn exotic dancer who claims he impregnated her -- then abandoned her.

Salma Hayek look-alike Silvia Mena,who's nearly four months pregnant, says she met the 6-foot-6, 350-pound defensive lineman in Miami late last year. But she claims in papers to be filed in Brooklyn Supreme Court he dumped her after learning she was expecting in late February.

The papers allege that Haynesworth -- who signed a $100 million contract with the Redskins last year -- has refused to talk to her since late March or give her any money toward her medical bills.

Mena, 25, alleges Haynesworth, 28, met her in Miami, romanced her during Super Bowl week, and invited her to his Tennessee home. She claims in the documents that after learning about the pregnancy, Haynesworth promised to "emotionally and financially support Silvia." But, "after making such promises . . . Haynesworth has abandoned the pregnant Sylvia Mena . . . He has refused to provide any emotional or financial support of Silvia Mena or his unborn child."

The papers read that Haynesworth's assistant suggested Mena "seek treatment from an NFL physician." But Mena feared "some effort might be made to purposefully make her lose the child," the papers say.
Mena, who claims she has not heard from Haynesworth since late March, told us last night: "It is very stressful, I cry all the time."

Her lawyer, Salvatore Strazzullo, told us he's filing the $10 million suit in Brooklyn Supreme Court today.

"This man is worth millions," Strazzullo said. "She has had to apply for Medicaid to take care of her pregnancy."

Haynesworth's agent declined to comment on Mena's claims

[kcofdc]

saw this on msn.com and thought please dont let this be a Redskins player. Clicked on the link and what do I see? A Redskins player. smh

[ST is my boy]

Big Al sure seems like a swell guy eh?

[skinnyfan57]

We've gotta get rid of Haynesworth.

[RememberOsaka]

At least she was an exotic dancer and not a stripper. :cool:

[wrecker]

Isn't it obvious even to the casual observer that he is an egotistical selfish person with no regard for anyone but himself? Please just cut this trash and move on. The only havoc he is creating is with his teamates, coaches and now even his personal relationships.

[Blue Collar Skins]

Wow seriously? :doh:

[Larry Brown #43]

Signing this clown is looking better and better every day. :doh: Shanny and Allen have got to be banging their heads against a wall, having inherited this guy.

You'd think he'd have plenty of time to take care of this woman and the child, seeing as he's not involved with his team at the moment.

[skinnyfan57]

Isn't it obvious even to the casual observer that he is an egotistical selfish person with no regard for anyone but himself?

Judging by this message board, no. People love this fat piece of trash.

[Dblock804]

I get the feeling that this thread is not going to work in his favor.

[kappaluvacee]

This is really a non-story to me. What he does in his personal life is his business. My guess is, he's not the first star to be blamed rightfully/wrongfully for a pregnancy.

[LD0506]

Ok, can we possibly wait until there is some confirmation of this before we light the torches? If it is true then full speed ahead, but c'mon, no one has ever made a claim like this before only to have it be untrue, right?

[authentic]

another great step to being the next "Reggie White", right Al? :rolleyes:

[Brandon Lloyd Christmas]

cmon guys, lets just wait for some real evidence. it probably wasnt even him. the coaches arent upset that hes not at camp, the players are fine with him being away, hes definitely not a problem for the team, and weve never tried to trade him.

im taking a wait and see approach with haynesworth.............LOL

[SlobberKnockinFootball]

This is really a non-story to me. What he does in his personal life is his business. My guess is, he's not the first star to be blamed rightfully/wrongfully for a pregnancy.

You're absolutely right this has nothing to do about his on-field production.. this is his personal life. But what it does, it gives you an idea about the character of a person.

I'm glad we backed the Brinks trucks up for this clown. :rolleyes:

[D-Day]

Wow, I would at least wait until it is proven he did this before I would call another human trash and all that crap like the first few posters are.

So AH said "emotionally and financially support Silvia." Which ironically is exactly what he would have needed to say for her to get the max amount of cash possible.

I have to look at it as if it was me, would I automatically give a stripper and knowing their reputations millions to support a kid because she is knocked up? Would any of you slamming AH do the same on her word?

Now if there is tests and the claim is confirmed, then I would trash him if he did this after learning that the kid is his. Until then, he would be an idiot to give this girl the world.

[TK]

Wow seriously? :doh:
Its a Page 6 article so take it for what that's worth.

[anar-k21]

well all together the guy is a sorry sack of (sumthin) im sure its probably true.........

i mean cmon its reallly not about the millions, but if you made a child, wouldnt you care about it???

[D-Day]

well all together the guy is a sorry sack of (sumthin) im sure its probably true.........

i mean cmon its reallly not about the millions, but if you made a child, wouldnt you care about it???


I am sorry, I missed the part where it is confirmed the child is his. Hey I guess we should start condeming on a persons word.

Oh yeah I forgot the other threads on AH full of secret sources and friends of friends supposedly saying stuff.

[Mad Mike]

Why do I not doubt that everything she says is true. :doh:

[santana_4_prez]

Wait 'til the baby is born.

If the baby is born and weighs over 12 pounds it's his.

Otherwise it is somebody else's.










Seriously though, this guy is a piece of ****. He thinks he is above the law.

[authentic]

Wait 'til the baby is born.

If the baby is born and weighs over 12 pounds it's his.

Otherwise it is somebody else's.

Don't hold your breath for the baby to be born. He may skip his mandatory due date.

[TK]

Wow, I would at least wait until it is proven he did this before I would call another human trash and all that crap like the first few posters are.
JC isn't here anymore so Al's the new hate target.

So AH said "emotionally and financially support Silvia." Which ironically is exactly what he would have needed to say for her to get the max amount of cash possible.
Well in the documents, she claims he said that, which is where you would make that word for word claim to get the max amount.

I have to look at it as if it was me, would I automatically give a stripper and knowing their reputations millions to support a kid because she is knocked up? Would any of you slamming AH do the same on her word?
Paternity test.

Now if there is tests and the claim is confirmed, then I would trash him if he did this after learning that the kid is his. Until then, he would be an idiot to give this girl the world.
Exactly.

[BlackBush]

This is really a non-story to me. What he does in his personal life is his business. My guess is, he's not the first star to be blamed rightfully/wrongfully for a pregnancy.
I agree somewhat. We know that he is not a high character guy based on some of the other things we have seen from him and on some levels I understand the life of a superstar sports player is gonna have situations like this where we fans don't have all the facts but generally sounds like he ****** up again. At the end of the day if he came in this year and obliterated competition and set a sack record, who wouldn't cheer for his success on the field. I'm sure some Pats fans think that Tom Brady is a douchebag for leaving a girl he got pregnant for a model but ask them if they want to trade him away for a 4th rounder. My guess is no they would not.
My hope is that he can get some people around him to help him make better decisions about life and handling these situations so that they do not become the persistent cloud that makes him, the team, and the NFL look bad.

Off topic: I cannot imagine a love child of Salma Hayek and Albert. That is enough to crash my brain for the day.

[MattFancy]

Its a Page 6 article so take it for what that's worth.

Yeah so who knows if this girl is telling the truth or not. This wouldn't be the first time a girl tries to get money from a rich athlete. Until more details come out, I'm reserving judgement.

[bird_1972]

If this is true, he is officially more trouble than he's worth now.

The bad thing is that since this info is out in the public domain, his stock on the market will likely even be less than it already was. We may have to just cut his ass.

[BlackBush]

Why do I not doubt that everything she says is true. :doh:

Everything strippers exotic dancers say is true...
til you run out of ones

[Dan T.]

Silvia Menahttp://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:8AYJKFrAqxMJ7M:http://www.facebook.com/

[PlayAction]

well all together the guy is a sorry sack of (sumthin) im sure its probably true.........

i mean cmon its reallly not about the millions, but if you made a child, wouldnt you care about it???

Hmmm. He has a one night stand with an "exotic dancer" who subsequently claims that's she's pregnant with his child. Now she wants $10 million. Gold Digger. Don't put this one on AH. Are you going to post an apology to AH on this board if the paternity test proves the child is someone elses?

If it's his then he'll owe child support....nothing more.

[RabidFan]

That pic is an insult to Salma Hayek

[Sikbug]

This is the first time I realized big Al is my age and it actually sunk in.

[Zarg]

Awesome, let's give this guy some credit, the report did say "Selma Hayek" look alike... NICE....

Now, let's not give this guy all the hate.... She is, after all, an exotic dancer. And EVERYTHING THEY say is gold...

[Boss_Hogg]

quick someone call Maury Povich!

http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc156/marioarias08/maury.gif

[Zarg]

DAMN!!! Ok, now instead of Selma Hayek! It should be Billy Madison's kindergarten teacher!!! (Someone insert pic.... HERE)

[SWFLSkins]

At least she was an exotic dancer and not a stripper. :cool:

Do you even know the difference?









About a grand a night. :ols:

[Brandon Lloyd Christmas]

quick someone call Maury Povich!




lol, those are still the best video montages on youtube.

[WhoRUSupposed2Be]

Not bad Big Al, not bad at all ;)

[SWFLSkins]

Salma Hayek look-alike Silvia Mena,who's nearly four months pregnant, says she met the 6-foot-6, 350-pound defensive lineman in Miami late last year. But she claims in papers to be filed in Brooklyn Supreme Court he dumped her after learning she was expecting in late February.

Read more: http://www.nypost.com/p/pagesix/pregnant_ex_suing_nfl_star_wAQtcZIMdFaM4QRa15D8KM# ixzz0p2dQxJ7S


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Okey Ladles and Germans do the math, four months pregnant? due in February?

Four months+ June, July, August, September=October. Hmmm. Sounds like NY Post did not use the calculator on this one. I mean that leaves the baby in the over for December, January and Feb. Two to three months longer than claimed, hmmmm, dripping with skepticism on this one.

[LightningBuggs]

Well, now we have confirmation that he exercised at least once during the offseason. :)

[Mad Mike]

Everything strippers exotic dancers say is true...
til you run out of ones

And Haynesworth has show himself to be a high character guy who always delivers on his promises. :rolleyes:

She would have to be a special kind of stupid to take this to court if the child was not his. It's not like it can't be confirmed. And if she didn't think about it, I'm assuming the lawyer did and has made clear to her the consequences of perjury.

So yes. I think her story is likely true.

[Mad Mike]

Okey Ladles and Germans do the math, four months pregnant? due in February?

Four months+ June, July, August, September=October. Hmmm. Sounds like NY Post did not use the calculator on this one. I mean that leaves the baby in the over for December, January and Feb. Two to three months longer than claimed, hmmmm, dripping with skepticism on this one.

She found out she was pregnant in February and that's when he dumped her.

[scruffylookin]

I bet this is the straw that breaks this camel's back.

I think Fat Al is gone.

[Audible_Red40]

Why don't they all just stay away from the "script" clubs?

[skinnyfan57]

JC isn't here anymore so Al's the new hate target.

Al's the new hate target because he is a fat piece of ****, waste of money and talent.

[Metalhead]

I think I missing something...it's says she's four months pregnant right now, but expecting in late February?

* Oh yeah, and this is the NY Post.

[skinnyfan57]

I think I missing something...it's says she's four months pregnant right now, but expecting in late February?

* Oh yeah, and this is the NY Post.

You are missing something. February is when she found out she was pregnant... not due in February.

[The Tris]

For all the moral hand-wringing, this is a list of professional athletes with illegimate children (and this is an outdated article from 2008):



As you might expect, the list of athletes with one or two illegitimate children is extremely long. Much too long to list here in its entirety. Highlights from that list include:

Mark Messier (NHL Hall of Famer)
Brian Urlacher (NFL)
Stephon Marbury (NBA)
Jason Kidd (NBA)
Allen Iverson (NBA)
Latrell Sprewell (NBA)
Juwan Howard (NBA)
Scottie Pippen (NBA)
Hakeem Olajuwon (NBA)
Patrick Ewing (NBA)
Randy Johnson (MLB)
Matt Leinart (NFL)
Tom Brady (http://www.myfamilylaw.com/celebrityblog/tag/tom-brady/) (NFL)
Darren McFadden (http://www.myfamilylaw.com/celebrityblog/tag/darren-mcfadden) (NFL rookie)
Dwight Howard (NBA) [one child with an Orlando Magic dancer]
Warren Sapp (NFL)
Larry Fitzgerald (NFL) [one child with a Los Angeles Raider cheerleader]
Lance Briggs (NFL)
Tracy McGrady (http://www.myfamilylaw.com/celebrityblog/tag/tracy-mcgrady) (NBA)
Chipper Jones (MLB) [one child with an Atlanta area Hooters waitress]
Boris Becker (Tennis)
But it doesn’t stop there! The numbers get CRAZY – read below!

Then there are the guys who haven’t figured it out yet or just don’t care. The list includes these athletes with three to five illegitimate children each:

Larry Johnson (NBA) – 5 kids by 4 women; 3 are illegitimate
Charles Rogers (NBA)- Reportedly has 5 illegitimate kids
Greg Minor (NBA) – 3 illegitimate kids
Ricky Williams (NFL) – 3 illegitimate kids
Priest Holmes (NFL) – 3 illegitimate kids
Karl Malone (NBA) – 3 illegitimate kids – all born while he was in college; 2 of the 3 are now professional athletes
Oscar de la Hoya (Boxing) – 5 kids by 4 women; 3 are illegitimate
Elijah Dukes (MLB) – 5 illegitimate kids by 4 women (possibly 6 kids by 5 women now – the most recent one hasn’t been publicly confirmed)
Willis McGahee (NFL) – 3 illegitimate kids in 2 years
Michael Vick (NFL/current federal inmate) – 3 illegitimate children
These athletes take the cake with six or more illegitimate children a piece:

Ray Lewis (NFL) – Rumored to have 6 children by 4 women
Marshall Faulk (NFL) – Also rumored to have 6 children, but by 3 women
Antonio Cromartie (http://myfamilylaw.com/celebrityblog/tag/antonio-cromartie) (NFL) – 7 illegitimate kids by 6 women by age 25
Shawn Kemp (NBA) – 7 illegitimate kids by 6 women (some rumors put these numbers MUCH higher)
Derrick Thomas (NFL) – 7 illegitimate kids by 5 women at the time of his death at age 33
Jason Caffey (http://www.myfamilylaw.com/celebrityblog/tag/jason-caffey/) (NBA) – 8 illegitimate children by 7 women
Travis Henry (http://www.myfamilylaw.com/celebrityblog/tag/travis-henry) (NFL) – 9 kids by 9 women by age 28
Willie Anderson (NBA) – 9 illegitimate kids
Evander Holyfield (Boxing) – 9 illegitimate kids
Calvin Murphy (NBA) – 14 illegitimate kids by 9 women
And this paternity suit epidemic? Not exactly new territory for the big leagues. These guys were having illegitimate kids way back in the day:

Steve Garvey (MLB) – 2 illegitimate kids by 2 women
Julius Erving/Dr. J (NBA) – 2 illegitimate kids by 2 women
Isiah Thomas (NBA) – 3 children; 1 is illegitimate
Jim Palmer (MLB) – 1 illegitimate child
Darryl Strawberry (MLB) – 6 children; 1 is illegitimate
Pete Rose (MLB) – 5 children; 1 is illegitimate
Tug McGraw (MLB) – 3 children; 1 is illegitimate (and happens to be country singer Tim McGraw)
Bjorn Borg (Tennis) – 1 illegitimate child


http://myfamilylaw.com/celebrityblog/2008/06/06/paternity-suits-pro-athletes/


Now if indeed he is the father, I hope he does the right thing and supports his child. But let's get off the high horse for a second. If he was a good teammate like Larry Fitz or Tom Brady or Urlacher, this would be a non-story, or much less of one.

But since he has already made himself into a pariah, this is just one more reason to dislike him.


EDIT: Here (http://www.faniq.com/blog/Athletes-With-Illegitimate-Kids-The-Comprehensive-List-Blog-17243) is a newer list I found. It includes NFL guys like Michael Turner, Ochocinco, and Matt Leinhart. Newsflash, celebrities eff a lot of women, some of which aren't their wives! And they have illegitimate kids! I know, whodathunkit?

Again, moral of the story? If you work hard and play hard, this is a non-issue, or much less of one.

[laxpck]

Well, now we have confirmation that he exercised at least once during the offseason. :)


THAT IS Awesome. Box office gold right there Jerry.

[BurgundyBlog]

Don't hold your breath for the baby to be born. He may skip his mandatory due date.

this response was pretty hilarious.

[Santana_89]

Well, now we have confirmation that he exercised at least once during the offseason. :)
:ols::ols::ols::ols::ols::ols::ols::ols::ols::ols: :ols: Touche

[Tastes Like Chicken]

Tris- thanks for that info. It sure is an eye opener.

I must say that there's a difference to me between having an illegitimate child, vs what AH is doing- nothing. If it is his baby, he needs to man up and take responsibility.

[NoleSkin21]

I wonder if the team trainers had to come and carry him out on a cart after the intercourse was finished?

[authentic]

I wonder if the team trainers had to come and carry him out on a cart after the intercourse was finished?

this is similar to what he looked like after he finished and realized that he made an "ooopsy".

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/dcsportsbog/haynesworthlavar.jpg

[MattFancy]

Good research Tris. AH is far from the first pro athlete to have something like this happen and I'm sure he won't be the last. If this was someone like Fletcher or Orakpo, no one on here would be making a big deal out of it.

[The Tris]

I must say that there's a difference to me between having an illegitimate child, vs what AH is doing- nothing. If it is his baby, he needs to man up and take responsibility.

Absolutely, but Haynesworth is hardly the first guy who had to have legal action taken to prompt fatherly action.

And I don't know whats normal, but $10MM seems excessive to me, boarderline using the baby as a lotto ticket. But again, I don't know what promises were made, and what the arrangement was. I know for damn sure if I'm an NFL player fooling around with someone I don't intend to marry, I am taking every step possible to not get her pregnant.

[Buford]

Its probably true....and will go down as one of the worst FA moves of all-time. That's Vinny's legacy.

[Chicken Fried]

It's her fault as well for being involved in a relationship that resulted in pregnancy out of wedlock, but I hope she sues him for everything this fat piece of **** is worth. I had no idea when we signed him that he was this big of a problem. I don't know that it wouldn't be a smart football decision to straight up cut him to make a point to the team that no matter what your name or your paycheck is, indecent people will not be allowed to be Redskins. It's not like we'd get anything substantial for him in a trade right now, and he doesn't want to work hard.

[lzeis24]

I'm surprised how many people are jumping on this. I'm not a big Haynesworth supporter, but I don't know I believe this to be completely true. I'd like to get a few more facts before I pass judgment on this story. I'm not saying that strippers cannot be a character source, but I'm pretty sure she would do ANYTHING in her power to get paid.

[LightningBuggs]

I wonder if the team trainers had to come and carry him out on a cart after the intercourse was finished?

:ols::ols::ols::ols::ols:

Well played. Hilarious!

['Skins_&_'Stons]

I get the feeling that this thread is not going to work in his favor.

:ols::ols::ols::ols:

[Jimbo]

Think I'll just sit by and :munchout: until the paternity test. IF he's the father then he can go to Ray Lewis and Marshall Faulk for advice. OK, SCRATCH Marshall Faulk. HE'D probably tell Albert to hold out.

[ntotoro]

I was wondering whether he did his patented belly flop on top of her after announcing his arrival...

[Larry Brown #43]

JC isn't here anymore so Al's the new hate target.


I never hated JC, because even when he didn't play well, I knew he gave it everything he had.

Albert on the other hand...

[Dan T.]

I was wondering whether he did his patented belly flop on top of her after announcing his arrival...


:ols:

Or he claimed he had a cramp and waved in a sub. That will be his alibi against paternity.

[Brandon Lloyd Christmas]

I never hated JC, because even when he didn't play well, I knew he gave it everything he had.

Albert on the other hand...


im actually surprised TK said that, considering there was plenty of hate for big Al even when campbell was still here.

and its a totally different type of dislike. nobody dislikes haynesworth play on the field when hes in shape, dude can be a monster. its his off field issues and attitude that bother people.

[TheismannQuote]

Is it just me or is the worst part (if true) that he slept with stripper without a condom? I mean....really?...really?

I bet the fat guy was hoping a baby would be the only thing he ended up with.

[laxpck]

I never hated JC, because even when he didn't play well, I knew he gave it everything he had.

Albert on the other hand...


Albert made more in his last paycheck than JC ever made here. So the hate might grow exponentially. I never hated JC, just saw him for what he was...NOT a dynasty able QB. Servicable sure but, in the end, not worth a first round draft pick.

Al on the other hand, love him on the field. When on the field. Its really the off the field stuff that is really starting to bug me. I just hope all this is starting a fire in his enourmous belly.

[icbmayday]

His new name is officially greasy al....more distractions...more drama

[JaxJoe]

It's clear the reason she's suing now is because she hasn't a clue who the father is... she's a call girl / stripper.

If she was confident of the father, she'd sue AFTER the child is born. And by any state law, he would be obligated to pay; just like JKC (and that man had a pre-nup and still lost his case!).

But this way, her lawyer is hoping that AH may be thinking that he could have fathered the child and is also hoping AH will pay some $$$ and have her go away. Otherwise, this case will go until the birth and, most likely, the DNA test will prove paternity or not. :kickcan:

[That Redskins Fan]

how are some people surprised by big als action

he had issues when he was a vol and a titan

it was know he had a cantakerous nasty disposition out side of football

i am not surprised in the least bit sad to say.. not everyone is going to be a chris cooley

[gaskinsfan]

Big Al is just not a fit in DC anymore. He is selfish which goes against the team concept MS is pushing. Skins need to cut bait, put him on the market in earnest, and get what they can for him. If we let it be known that he is available, and start contacting teams that need DLine help, we could start a bidding war and get some decent compensation.

It would be better for AH to get on a team that wants him and he wants to be on, and that's not the Redskins anymore.

Time to move on...

[honejc]

any male in their right mind would do this. only support your progeny you want to succeed. survival of the fittest. women just dont get this. this is no big deal. just pay the stripper and forget about her

[Larry Brown #43]

Not to compare what Roethlisberger is alleged to have done to this situation-- but even if Ben is innocent of the actual allegations against him, he has still been criticized for putting himself in bad situations and using poor judgment.

I'd say the same could be said about Albert.

[skinnyfan57]

For all the moral hand-wringing, this is a list of professional athletes with illegimate children (and this is an outdated article from 2008)

Well I'm not on that list so I can bash his morals all I want.

[wrecker]

Think I'll just sit by and :munchout: until the paternity test. IF he's the father then he can go to Ray Lewis and Marshall Faulk for advice. OK, SCRATCH Marshall Faulk. HE'D probably tell Albert to hold out.


He should have gotten advice to pull out. Then he wouldn't be in this situation. :ols:

I saw the long list of atheletes. The point isn't having kids out of wedlock. It is not taking responsibility and leaving your partner and future child high and dry to fend for themselves when you have 32+ million in the bank. :mad:

[Mooka]

And she's suing for what exactly? For getting knocked up? It takes two to tango sweetheart.

Get an order for a paternity test and take him to family court for child support.

[skinnyfan57]

Again, moral of the story? If you work hard and play hard, this is a non-issue, or much less of one.

So that's the moral of the story? Be good at sports and it's ok to impregnate girls during one night stands and not be present in your children's lives?

Forgive me for being blunt but that's quite stupid.

[skinnyfan57]

If this was someone like Fletcher or Orakpo, no one on here would be making a big deal out of it.

bull****.

[Malcomb Kelly]

Oh yay... another distraction... but i think FANS should wait to hear that it's true first.

[turtle]

It just keeps going downhill with this guy

[mfelty05]

well atleast this confirms albert has been working out this offseason

[Malcomb Kelly]

And she's suing for what exactly? For getting knocked up? It takes two to tango sweetheart.

Get an order for a paternity test and take him to family court for child support.

exactly... he wouldn't be the first guy in the history of life to do something like that... there's protocol in place. you don't just get to sue him for millions because he has it. She would get a pretty nice child support check if she can prove he's the baby-daddy though.

by the way... anyone can sue anyone for anything... just because there's a suit doesnt mean there's any validity to it.

[skinnyfan57]

any male in their right mind would do this. only support your progeny you want to succeed. survival of the fittest. women just dont get this. this is no big deal. just pay the stripper and forget about her

I guess I'm not in my right mind then because 1) I wouldn't have ended up in this situation and 2) if I did (which I wouldn't) I would be a man, accept responsibility, and be present in my child's life.

[HBnotBlades]

Come one guys, everyone is jumping all over AH over a page six NY Post article with absolutely no facts.

If an "exotic dancer" finds out she's pregnant after (likely) sleeping with multiple guys over a period of time and one of those guys happens to have a contract worth $100 million, she's obviously going to claim that the $100 million man is the father.

When Haynesworth suggested she get "Treatment from an NFL Physician" I bet he actually asked her to get a paternity test and she refused, hoping for a settlement instead.

[DButz65]

Not to compare what Roethlisberger is alleged to have done to this situation-- but even if Ben is innocent of the actual allegations against him, he has still been criticized for putting himself in bad situations and using poor judgment.

I'd say the same could be said about Albert.


Is AH married? Did AH RAPE someone? Or accused of doing so?

RAPE is way worse than some girl coming out saying her baby is his, happens ALL the time, hardly poor judgment compared to Big Ben. Totally different situations, you cant compare the two IMHO.

[Larry Brown #43]

Is AH married? Did AH RAPE someone? Or accused of doing so?


Come on, man. Did you read my post? The first words were: "Not to compare what Roethlisberger is alleged to have done to this situation..."

I very clearly said it's not the same thing. My point is this: regardless of what a paternity test reveals, Albert used poor judgment.

[DButz65]

Come on, man. Did you read my post? The first words were: "Not to compare what Roethlisberger is alleged to have done to this situation..."



Why even mention it then?

[jimster]

This is an accusation, nothing more. Its sad how many assume its automatically true.

[skinnyfan57]

This is an accusation, nothing more. Its sad how many assume its automatically true.

Even sadder is the people who say that even if it is true that it's no big deal.

[DButz65]

Even sadder isle the people who say that even if it is true that it's no big deal.

Accidental pregnancies happen all the time...for all we know they did use a condom, but a money grubbing woman poked a hole in it LOL

It's way too early to know what happened exactly, I for one am not ready to point any fingers at either party. One thing is clear though, seems to be consensual sex at least.

[Tay]

This is a stupid law suit. This woman should be sued for wasting Big Al's time w/ a law suit like this.

There is already something in place called Child Support. Big Al likely thinks she is just trying to make a quick buck, so he doesn't want to deal with her.

To bad to see his name continues to show up in the media though. Big change coming from Ten to Was.

[redskins55]

Aww come on Big Al.....

Your not supposed to go raw with a stripper :doh:

[Larry Brown #43]

Why even mention it then?

I mention it because people were arguing about the paternity test, saying we don't know the results, etc.

I was just applying the "poor judgment" argument to this situation. Regardless of what a paternity test says, he still appears to have used poor judgment.

[big z]

can't wait for this episode of Maury to unfold...hopefully Haynesworth can move like this when he gets to camp...:ols:

4wbLdYeZvoc

[The Tris]

So that's the moral of the story? Be good at sports and it's ok to impregnate girls during one night stands and not be present in your children's lives?

Forgive me for being blunt but that's quite stupid.

So we are now assuming this was a one night stand? I had not read that, but I guess is we are assuming that Haynesworht is the father, might as well make it more juicy. I am sorry, but will you please take a second and step out of your ivory tower with the rest of us that make mistakes?

1) The child has not been born yet, so he has not abandoned it.

2) Pending a paternity test, it is a huge assumption to declare Haynesworth as the father.

3) No, the moral of the story is actually don't put yourself in bad situations. Especially as a pro athlete or celebrity. ****ing a stripper is a bad situation, but I am sorry, I am not going to pretend that Haynesworth is the only person who has ever accidentally knocked someone up, or the first athlete to have an ex-liason sue them. It happens all the time.

The fact of the matter is, Haynesworth is already a reviled figure, and thus he's going to be guilty until proven innocent in this and any other situation like it. I'm just not holier-than-thou enought to start judging at this point.



And I am no Haynesworth fan, but I am not going to let my feelings about his work ethic cloud my thinking in this arena.

[turtle]

Any pics of this mystery lady?

[SKOALSKIN]

DNA testing is a MFer. This joker is gonna take a hit big time. Child support in NYC is no joke (ask Piddy). Big Al is gonna be broke as a joke 5 years after his career is over.

[SKOALSKIN]

[QUOTE=big z;7549887]can't wait for this episode of Maury to unfold...hopefully Haynesworth can move like this when he gets to camp...:ols:]

Well done.

[Hail_Skins]

I'm sure it will turn out like it always does!


43851

[Lombardi's_kid_brother]

Big Al seems like the kind of person who will one day tattoo the F word to his knuckles.

And that is awesome.

[SkinsWarrior81]

So we are now assuming this was a one night stand? I had not read that, but I guess is we are assuming that Haynesworht is the father, might as well make it more juicy. I am sorry, but will you please take a second and step out of your ivory tower with the rest of us that make mistakes?

1) The child has not been born yet, so he has not abandoned it.

2) Pending a paternity test, it is a huge assumption to declare Haynesworth as the father.

3) No, the moral of the story is actually don't put yourself in bad situations. Especially as a pro athlete or celebrity. ****ing a stripper is a bad situation, but I am sorry, I am not going to pretend that Haynesworth is the only person who has ever accidentally knocked someone up, or the first athlete to have an ex-liason sue them. It happens all the time.

The fact of the matter is, Haynesworth is already a reviled figure, and thus he's going to be guilty until proven innocent in this and any other situation like it. I'm just not holier-than-thou enought to start judging at this point.



And I am no Haynesworth fan, but I am not going to let my feelings about his work ethic cloud my thinking in this arena.

You are a reasonable and sensible person with a solid argument.

Unfortunately, the members of this board often do not listen to reason and sense.

[Lombardi's_kid_brother]

We can only hope that Al gets as much penetration on defense next year.

[Vladimir L]

I really could careless if big Al knocks up women not my business. As long has he dominates the middle or is making plays im happy.

[Cpt.Chaos47]

Big Al has proven to be a bad teammate but that doesn't mean his the father of a stripper's child. If he is the father and doesn't step up he's an even bigger piece of trash than I thought, but I say we atleast wait to bash the guy until its proven he's the father. Athletes are targets of scams constantly, but it could be avoided if they stayed out of strip clubs and thought with their big heads instead of their little ones.

[Vladimir L]

You are a reasonable and sensible person with a solid argument.

Unfortunately, the members of this board often do not listen to reason and sense.


So big Al is guilty?

How many men do strippers sleep with or are around? Is it proven the child is his. As in the past its been proven some women go after athletes even when the child is not theirs because they are the best suiter.

[skinnyfan57]

So we are now assuming this was a one night stand? I had not read that, but I guess is we are assuming that Haynesworht is the father, might as well make it more juicy. I am sorry, but will you please take a second and step out of your ivory tower with the rest of us that make mistakes?

1) The child has not been born yet, so he has not abandoned it.

2) Pending a paternity test, it is a huge assumption to declare Haynesworth as the father.

3) No, the moral of the story is actually don't put yourself in bad situations. Especially as a pro athlete or celebrity. ****ing a stripper is a bad situation, but I am sorry, I am not going to pretend that Haynesworth is the only person who has ever accidentally knocked someone up, or the first athlete to have an ex-liason sue them. It happens all the time.

The fact of the matter is, Haynesworth is already a reviled figure, and thus he's going to be guilty until proven innocent in this and any other situation like it. I'm just not holier-than-thou enought to start judging at this point.



And I am no Haynesworth fan, but I am not going to let my feelings about his work ethic cloud my thinking in this arena.

Did you read the quote / post I was responding to?

I love how you broke out the "ivory tower" and "holier-than-thou". Please excuse me for disapproving of immorality.

[The Tris]

Did you read the quote / post I was responding to?

I love how you broke out the "ivory tower" and "holier-than-thou". Please excuse me for disapproving of immorality.

The quote you were refering to was actually my post, so yeah, I might have read it.

I'm sorry, but I don't buy the court of public opinion. Just becuase I read something does not make it so, thus I am not going to try and take the moral high ground based on accusations from a stripper.

If you want to play Nancy Grace, fine. But I am going to call that stuff out everytime I see it.

[ChiefPowhatan17]

What is Haynes...... Worth?????? Nada Mucho!

[No Excuses]

When was the last time something positive came out about Fatty McFat. This guy is nothing but a distraction.

[Santana_89]

AH is far from the first pro athlete to have something like this happen and I'm sure he won't be the last. If this was someone like Fletcher or Orakpo, no one on here would be making a big deal out of it.:yes:
Or the sainted Chris Cooley, there'd be all kinds of :chestram: and support all through this thread. If it's his kid then goody for him. All I care about is the Redskins getting their money's worth from him, when he shows up to mini camp/training camp.

[mossomo]

Judging by this message board, no. People love this fat piece of trash.

Nah, we simply just don't care about his personal life, if he skips VOLUNTARY minis/otas, or if he trains off-season in Miami or wherever. Come game day, offenses have to plan around Big Al crashing their oline - and that usually requires a linesmen (sometimes 2) and a fullback! Plus offenses have to scheme their run plays away from Al.

[Bang]

Pfah, he can afford it.

~Bang

[Hail_Skinz]

I'm sorry but this guy is a total douche. What an ass clown! JG would have never signed this guy. He lacks ANY character whatsoever. Please get rid of him ASAP.

[redskindan07]

Get rid of this guy

[ntotoro]

If nothing else, it proves that pro athletes in-general and (Combsworth in-particular) really are dumber than a pile of monkey ****.

[Newera]

Is Fatty McButter Pants married.

[Califan007]

Salma Hayek look-alike Silvia Mena,who's nearly four months pregnant, says she met the 6-foot-6, 350-pound defensive lineman in Miami late last year. But she claims in papers to be filed in Brooklyn Supreme Court he dumped her after learning she was expecting in late February.

Mena, 25, alleges Haynesworth, 28, met her in Miami, romanced her during Super Bowl week, and invited her to his Tennessee home.
I'm having difficulty understanding the timeline...Did he meet her "late last year" or did he meet her "during Super Bowl week"? Or was it that he met her late last year and then romanced her a month and a half later during Super Bowl week?

And yeah, if it IS his kid:

- Throw on some protection, ya big dummy!! (insert Fred Sanford's voice here)

- Can you sue for $10 mil for something like this? Or is this a situation of a percentage of the person's income by law goes to the child in child support cases?

- Salma Hayek look-alike, eh? ;) ;) ;)

- Man has more character issues than we realize (again, IF it turns out to be true)

[skinnyfan57]

The quote you were refering to was actually my post, so yeah, I might have read it.

I'm sorry, but I don't buy the court of public opinion. Just becuase I read something does not make it so, thus I am not going to try and take the moral high ground based on accusations from a stripper.

If you want to play Nancy Grace, fine. But I am going to call that stuff out everytime I see it.

Go for it. I'll continue to call you out every time you post something as idiotic and low as saying that if you have the clout, it's justification for being immoral.

[Larry Brown #43]

Or was it that he met her late last year and then romanced her a month and a half later during Super Bowl week?


^ This is how I interpreted it. Maybe they stayed in touch in the interim.

[RFK Lives]

Aw man, I missed the good old days of the offseason where we over pay for big splash free agents that never deliver.

Now we approach the offseason correctly and we have receivers taking HGH and our Multi-Million Dollar DT doing his best Steve Garvey imitation.

[MurrayH81]

Big Al... hmmm. I will wait until a paternity test to revile, but I think you can afford to pay for this woman's pregnancy medical care until then, including taking care of her income since (presumably) her pregnancy is effecting her ability to make her normal income.

What I am glad of is that I have not seen the home movies of their liason on the interwebz.

[skinnyfan57]

Aw man, I missed the good old days of the offseason where we over pay for big splash free agents that never deliver.

Now we approach the offseason correctly and we have receivers taking HGH and our Multi-Million Dollar DT doing his best Steve Garvey imitation.

Ghosts of offseasons past.

[authentic]

Not to compare what Roethlisberger is alleged to have done to this situation-- but even if Ben is innocent of the actual allegations against him, he has still been criticized for putting himself in bad situations and using poor judgment.

I'd say the same could be said about Albert.

thank you!! :)

[Superbowl Mohawk]

At least she was an exotic dancer and not a stripper. :cool:

Love this one, hilarious!!! :ols:

[Califan007]

^ This is how I interpreted it. Maybe they stayed in touch in the interim.

Yeah, that would be the only way it would make sense lol...

And "romanced"? Please. Any woman who looks like Salma Hayek is NOT gonna waste her time with someone who looks like Albert Haynesworth unless it IS Albert Haynesworth lol. The "romancing" probably went something like this:

(late last year...)

AH: "Howzabout you and me gettin' together sometime, darlin'?"

Salma (while grinding on his lap): "I don't date customers, sorry."

(later that evening)

Another "exotic dancer": "Girl, do you know who that was you were giving a lap dance to? Alfred Haynesbert!"

Salma: "Who?"

Other "dancer": "Alfred Haynesbert! He plays football for the Redskins or something. Man just got paid $100 million dollars! It's in all the papers!"

Salma: "D'oh!" :doh:

(two months later, Haynesworth returns to the same strip club...)

AH: "Ah, you again, sweetie...howzabout..."

Salma: "I'd love to go out with you sometime!"

AH: "I was just gonna ask for another lap dance, but cool!"

Much sex ensues, and neither adult apparently bothers with any form of birth control pills, condoms, or anything at all that would have easily avoided this situation, if true.

[SkinsWarrior81]

Go for it. I'll continue to call you out every time you post something as idiotic and low as saying that if you have the clout, it's justification for being immoral.

I am going to call out your reading comprehension.

He said that there is no evidence that any of it is actually true and is withholding judgement until there IS proof, not just baseless conjecture. Your judgement without proof is actually incredibly immoral. Where is the justification for that?

[LD0506]

Once again, we have an offseason media blurb with no verification that becomes more of a barometer of people's opinions of Haynesworth than the actual situation. Color me stunned.......

Stripper + lawyer = no good options

[skinnyfan57]

I am going to call out your reading comprehension.

He said that there is no evidence that any of it is actually true and is withholding judgement until there IS proof, not just baseless conjecture. Your judgement without proof is actually incredibly immoral. Where is the justification for that?

You need ot go back and read the whole conversation. His original quote was...

"moral of the story? If you work hard and play hard, this is a non-issue, or much less of one."

referring to his list of athletes who have illegitimate children.

[martytheman]

Christ, you people are ridiculous. Guilty before being proven innocent seems to be the standard around here. There's not even any evidence that its his kid, and you people are lighting torches and sharpening your pitchforks already. Lighten up already. Some of you people take every little thing this or that player does waaaay too seriously. Try stepping away from the computer every now and again, and maybe DO something in your life that doesn't involve being on es all day analyzing and complaining about any and everything under the sun. Good god, the more I read this board regularly, the more I see how ridiculous a lot of the members here are. No wonder this place has to be policed gestapo style. I never used to understand why this place had so many rules, but after reading what a lot of morans post here, I can see why. Unbelieveable.

What's next? Someone will post a story about Haynesworth not holding the door open for an old lady at a resturant and you will all go up in flames again. Rididculous.

*and yes I spelled it morans on purpose, google it if you need a clue.

[wrecker]

If it looks like a duck, walks like a duck...........oh nevermind.

[U C S D SkinsFan]

That was probably the most profitable pole she's ever danced!

[bedlamVR]

This Albert Haynesworth Witch hunt is reminding me of what happened in the 2005 offseason with one Sean Taylor . The same anonymous internet judge and jury were hanging him out to dry following the ATV indecent .

look this sounds like a typical: "I had a brush with someone who has made millions I want my millions" . They aim high (10- million) in the hope to come away with a fraction of that and 15 seconds of fame . It is pathetic and it is pathetic people give this life .

I don't care if it really is Alberts child or not . If it is then he has to man up and pay for his mistake (but not 10million) . If it isn't who cares ?

Another non story that the burnem and lynchem will use to bash another Redskins player ... yipiee :/

[LD0506]

Her parents must be so proud

(Yeah, yeah, it's Chris Rock, all his stuff is NSFW)
tojBadSr2zI

[ntotoro]

Oh, ****... Alfred Haynesbert... :ols:

[ntotoro]

Christ, you people are ridiculous. Guilty before being proven innocent seems to be the standard around here.

This isn't a court of law, it's a WWW message board. Regardless, no crime has been committed, but dumbassedness should definitely be frowned upon.

[commyderm2]

I know we are all down on AH right now, but let's pretend this wasn't AH for a second.. this women is a stripper, I've known a few strippers in my life.. this baby could be mine for all we know.. let's reserve judgement on this matter.. skipping OTA's on the other hand and getting injured every other play and coming back into the game after taking a breather, the time for reserving judgement is over.. I personally can't stand this guy..

[Maximus71]

I wonder if this is his real kid I wonder if the kid will show up ontime when the kid is suppose to come out... its possible he/she might not be happy with the situation and plans to stay in a bit longer :evilg:

[ntotoro]

I wonder if this is his real kid if it is I wonder if the kid will show up ontime when kid is suppose to come out... its possible he/she might not be happy with the situation and plans to stay in a bit longer :evilg:

He may wind up getting all pissed off, saying "Hey, I was sold a bad bill of goods!!! When I was first born, I was told my Father was Albert Haynesworth and now I find out he's Jimmie Walker?!?!??" :ols:

[Maximus71]

He may wind up getting all pissed off, saying "Hey, I was sold a bad bill of goods!!! When I was first born, I was told my Father was Albert Haynesworth and now I find out he's Jimmie Walker?!?!??" :ols:

LMFAO I wonder when and if the kid does come out he will be in shape!?

[MarkRascadizzle]

LMFAO I wonder when and if the kid does come out he will be in shape!?


It'll probably have to take a few breaks during breast feeding to catch its breath.

[Spear]

The most disturbing thing to come out of this is the thought of Albert having sex.

[Dblock804]

It'll probably have to take a few breaks during breast feeding to catch its breath.

Now that's funny.

[Maximus71]

It'll probably have to take a few breaks during breast feeding to catch its breath.

I wonder if it will collapse a few times after breast feeding and the nurse has to help out :silly:

[ntotoro]

The baby would be the first to eat bacon from birth, that's for sure.

[DeadExField]

Ok, can we possibly wait until there is some confirmation of this before we light the torches? If it is true then full speed ahead, but c'mon, no one has ever made a claim like this before only to have it be untrue, right?

I know, right? There are two sides to every story, and so far the media has trashed AH without any direct quotes or evidence. Since I know everything they've been saying is BS (about his attitude towards the team), I'm not going to jump on this news lead and condemn the guy.

On another note, this has to be the only thing I feel sorry for athletes on; They're constantly surrounded by sharks, female and male.

[jroc96]

I could see this story being true. I'm sure Big Al told her he would pay for an abortion but she wants to keep the kid so he ignores her. Either way it's his personal life and as long as he comes to play this year he can bang whoever he wants. I'm more disappointed with him for being a idiot for not using a rubber than anything. She gonna get paid

[addicted]

Well, now we have confirmation that he exercised at least once during the offseason. :)

best post of the day, lol

The article screams of a money hungry lawyer trying to get paid to me.

"This man is worth millions," Strazzullo said. "She has had to apply for Medicaid to take care of her pregnancy."

So because he's worth millions shes entitled to 10 million of it because he supposedly had had sex with her and got her pregnant? If I were AH I'd tell her and her lawyer to prove it was mine before she gets a dime. How does someone put a price on a piece of tail like that? Where did they get that number from?

[TK]

Once again, we have an offseason media blurb with no verification that becomes more of a barometer of people's opinions of Haynesworth than the actual situation. Color me stunned.......


Its all in how you bait the hook. :)

[The Tris]

You need ot go back and read the whole conversation. His original quote was...

"moral of the story? If you work hard and play hard, this is a non-issue, or much less of one."

referring to his list of athletes who have illegitimate children.

It's a non-issue on a football message board. If this is an upstanding memeber of our team, it is an unfortunate episode.

If it is the team pariah (deservedly so), than there is this sense of moral outrage and immediate calls for his dismissal.

Athletes cheat. Often, and have illegitimate children. I'm not saying it's right or wrong, I'm just saying that it's part of our celebrity culture. So simply because this is a person who I dislike does not mean I am going to treat this any differently than the many other stories (true and untrue) that pop up daily on the gossip rags.

Right now, all we know for sure is that there is a pregnant woman who is seeking damages of $10MM from a former liason. We don't even know if they had sex at this point, or if he is the father. So let's pump the breaks just a bit on the character crusade.

[BKSkinsFan]

As Shanny said, "You're either in or your out". Big Al was in.

[gortiz]

This is really a non-story to me. What he does in his personal life is his business. My guess is, he's not the first star to be blamed rightfully/wrongfully for a pregnancy.

that's crap and you are being shallow ... sorry for the blast but I think you are shooting from the hip on this and not thinking.

everyone has a weak spot ... a button waiting to be pushed. A man allegedeley abanoning a woman he supposedly got pregnant just doesn't happen to be yours ... it bugs me. Will I lose sleep? No. But I'm not dimissing it as a "non issue. "

[boobiemiles]

Funny how fans can turn on a guy for missing OTA's.
I hope Al was smart enough to strap it up when he was messing with a stripper. As fans we can get mad he missed OTA's. As a mn he could lose his life having sex with someone like this wityhout protection.
By the way I think if we let Al go, and our defense slips an inch, we are going to need a new head coach in three years.

[Gibbs Hog Heaven]

By the way I think if we let Al go, and our defense slips an inch, we are going to need a new head coach in three years.

I personally think your giving a player who's done little in the game WAY too much credit; and a Coach who's done it all WAY too little.

But each to their own.

Hail.

[MurrayH81]

well we don't know for sure that it was a work-out, other than for her...

however, we can clearly lay to rest the notion that AH will not participate in voluntary, organized team activities (OTA) during the offseason.

[SkinsTribeVA]

This thread got pretty funny in the last page.

The kid may have to take breaks from breast feeding, but let's be fair--I'm sure he'll be there for at least 75% of the action.

[bulldog]

While this isn't enough in and of itself to draw conclusions for most individuals it is yet another example of how AH's off the field character has been found wanting.

Add this to the alleged confrontation with his ex-wife that caused her to call police as well as a traffic incident where he was going 110 mph on an expressway and was involved in an accident where a man ended up paralyzed in a hospital bed.

Not exactly the kind of player you expect to lead.

[DButz65]

Stop assuming no condoms were used people...they do break ya know? :ols:

No facts yet....even if this ends up being true, it's not really a big deal, IMO Just because he makes 100 million, this is front and center for news, if this happens to someone who makes 30k or less a year, it gets put on Springer :ols:

[bulldog]

this guy's just too much drama. he's a 340 version of TO except his play in his prime hasn't been as consistent on the field :)

as soon as this pant load is off the team the happier I am going to be.

I understand it is a waiting game to set up the right deal and get some value, but is it possible that AH can stay out of the news long-enough for that to happen? :laugh:

[Larry Brown #43]

While this isn't enough in and of itself to draw conclusions for most individuals it is yet another example of how AH's off the field character has been found wanting.

Add this to the alleged confrontation with his ex-wife that caused her to call police as well as a traffic incident where he was going 110 mph on an expressway and was involved in an accident where a man ended up paralyzed in a hospital bed.

Not exactly the kind of player you expect to lead.

Well said, bulldog. While this incident alone may not be enough to villify the guy, when you view it in the context of everything else we already know... let's just say his act is growing tiresome.

[boobiemiles]

Even sadder is the people who say that even if it is true that it's no big deal.
It's not a big deal. People get pregnant all the time. As long as he owns up to his responsibilities he is ok. It's the Murphy Brown generation.

[SonOfWashington]

For her sake I hope he wasn't on top.

[papaSkins27]

Here's a link with two pic's of the lovely lady, one with both her and Albert together...

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-504083_162-20006038-504083.html

Al's a moron she's pretty cute, he should man up and take care of his baby. (If it's actually true/his)

[UK SKINS FAN '74]

http://www.nypost.com/p/pagesix/pregnant_ex_suing_nfl_star_wAQtcZIMdFaM4QRa15D8KM

Washington Redskins star Albert Haynesworth



Star ? I'd say that was a matter of opinion at the moment.


JC isn't here anymore so Al's the new hate target.



TK, What do you expect when people post articles like this ? :silly:

[CallMeGreen]

For a moment, regardless of who the expecting Dad may or may not be, let's hope the right guy steps forward and takes responsibility for his side of this.

This is another PR headache, welcome to town Mr. Wylie, that the team doesn't need. On the tails of the Dr. Galea tales that continue to develop, the public image of the Redskins hardly seems to be about football right now.

Going one step further, I'm not sure if this goes against AH or not, but it'll be interesting to see how this affects him. Speculating for a moment, does this make him a "happy, appreciative father", or just another "runaway dad" in a sports world already full of those.

And finally, if this plays out badly for AH, not sure how the league or the team feels about more negative attention. Suspension or fines, probably not. At the very worst, this may be the one incident that forces the team to jettison the franchise defensive tackle from the team. At this point, you certainly couldn't expect the team to get close to fair value on the market for him.

Before anything else happens though, it's probably just best to wait things out.

[TK]

TK, What do you expect when people post articles like this ? :silly:
Idjit containment. :D

[DCsportsfan53]

At the very worst, this may be the one incident that forces the team to jettison the franchise defensive tackle from the team.


First of all, that's a contradiction in terms. There's no such thing as a franchise defensive tackle, which is why his contract was so ridiculous and ridiculed to begin with. Secondly, I don't care what happens off the field. I want AH off our team because he's a selfish player who hurts team chemistry. In the ultimate team sport, a player like him, regardless of ability, hurts your chances for success.

[boobiemiles]

I personally think your giving a player who's done little in the game WAY too much credit; and a Coach who's done it all WAY too little.

But each to their own.

Hail.
Hold on. A coach who does it "all", he never won without John Elway. Look your opinion will sway if our defense plays badly next year. I don't know why people are fighting it. If Mike does not succeed, and there is a significant chance he does not, then we will be back on this forum asking for his head. And we will say how stupid he was if Al takes our money, goes to another team and wins. That is the bottom line; this game is not what you did for me, but what you've done lately. MIKE SHANNAHAN DID NOT WIN NOTHING WITHOUT JOHN ELWAY, NOTHING! We are a top flight defense, why mess with a god thing? Why make Al a bad guy, just because he didn't go to OTA's? Why make this a polarizing situation?

[LadySkinsFan]

Okay, here is the real deal. We are all responsible for our reproductive freedom, men/boys and women/girls. If one doesn't want to reproduce, then one should investigate the ways to prevent pregnancy and take those measures. We just don't teach the responsibility side of having sex to boys and girls, the prudes amongst us refuse to let us give boys and girls the tools to prevent pregnancy, their proper use, and most importantly the responsibilities inherent in caring for any resultant children. It's a shame that the United States takes the head in sand approach, thanks to all those "family values" people who think that sex outside of marriage is a bad thing, although a bunch of them seem to be doing quite a bit of that very thing.

My point here is that we are all human beings and human beings have sex and mostly because it feels good, and without thought about the consequences. And that will continue to happen until there are no more human beings. I want the value judgements to stop, unless there is hypocrisy involved.

I must disclose that I have an illegitimate child as I have never been married, tried very hard to be heterosexual when in fact I am lesbian (hence resultant child) and said child is now 30 something. The father of the child never acknowledged/supported the child and died when the child was 3, so I was so was sole support of my household. I am not ashamed of either myself or my child for the circumstances of birth and raised my child to have a different set of "family values" that has worked out well.

So until any man is determined to be the father of a child, he is under no obligation to provide any support. If the mother wants support during pregnancy, there are now tests that can be performed during pregnancy to determine paternity. If she is serious, she can get tested. If she refuses to get tested, then I'd say that there is something wrong with her story, and any man in that position should not be forced to pay any support until paternity is proved. This approach places responsibility upon both the man and woman, until paternity is determined. Once paternity is determined, then support questions can be decided by the courts.

[CaliforniaSkin]

I'm not a Haynesworth fan and I find fathers not supporting their children abhorrent but something is a little fishy here. Given that she is apparently from Florida and AH lives in VA, why is this case being filed in NY? Maybe because NY has just about the highest child support guidelines in the country? If it is his child he should most certainly be made to pay child support, but $10 million is ridiculous. She's not asking for child support - she's asking to for what's likely to be at least 1/3 to 1/2 of his net worth (Yeah he's gotten $32 million from the 'skins but taxes took a bunch of that and I'm sure some is spent). And she's asking for it, not money for the baby, money for her.

Generally speaking the courts only provide extremely high levels of child support (I'm talking the $10,000/month and higher) in order to allow a child to continue his/her lifestyle which is not the case here - the baby hasn't even been born yet.

If it is his baby, he should pay child support, but getting pregnant by an NFL player shouldn't be the same thing as a lottery ticket.

[LadySkinsFan]

One more thing, there is no such person as a "Salma Hayek look-alike." There is only ONE Salma Hayek!

[Destructis]

I have to look at it as if it was me, would I automatically give a stripper and knowing their reputations millions to support a kid because she is knocked up? Would any of you slamming AH do the same on her word?


Seriously, who would bang a stripper without a condom in the first place? Fat Albert knows he is worth millions and some lady would get pregnant JUST to get money. If he isn't using condoms, then he is a dumbass.

[LadySkinsFan]

I'm not a Haynesworth fan and I find fathers not supporting their children abhorrent but something is a little fishy here. Given that she is apparently from Florida and AH lives in VA, why is this case being filed in NY? Maybe because NY has just about the highest child support guidelines in the country?

The article stated that they MET in Miami and she could be a resident of NY. And I believe that AH's official domicile is in TN and not VA. Child support is usually filed in the domicile state of the mother, unless declared otherwise by the court.

[UK SKINS FAN '74]

Idjit containment. :D

Thought so, this could have been far uglier with an OP that also contained an opinionated, scathing swipe at Haynesworth. This is damage limitation at its finest :ols:

[ChiefPowhatan17]

Albert should've stayed with her, she's really hot, pretty good grab for someone like him, but I know athletes want to be single.

[NewCliche21]

Get a paternity test, then seek child support. There's no lawsuit except for back child support. That's how it works.

If it's Haynesworth's, then he's a prick. If it's not, then he has plenty of other reasons to have earned that title. :)

[snafu]

hmmmm be a really good maury povich show

[CaliforniaSkin]

The article stated that they MET in Miami and she could be a resident of NY. And I believe that AH's official domicile is in TN and not VA. Child support is usually filed in the domicile state of the mother, unless declared otherwise by the court.

OK, fine, but she's still not asking for child support, she's asking for a huge amount of money prior to their even being a child. Essentially she's saying, he got me pregnant so I am entitled to 1/3 to 1/2 of his net worth. And that's before and independent of any obligation to the child.

This is NOT a child support case or even an attempt to collect medical bills, but an attempt to get a large amount of money for the woman. Not the child, the woman. If she were to win this case, he would still presumably owe child support (albeit a lot less because both parents would be very wealthy). A man certainly has a lifelong responsibility to any child he fathers. I just don't think he has the responsibility to make anyone he sleeps with extremely wealthy.

[NomadicSkinFan]

Wow, I would at least wait until it is proven he did this before I would call another human trash and all that crap like the first few posters are.

But that's a major problem with America today. We have been so conditioned to take the "victims" side. Any time something like this happens, we immediately grab our torches and pitchforks. Sometimes it turns out to be true. Other times it doesn't. I will never forget that Duke lacrosse players case where they were accused of raping that stripper. All across America people were up in arms that these "privleged kids" took advantage of a "poor girl". There were nearly riots over this. Of course in the end, they determined that no rape happened and that she had the "genetic material" from several other men in her underwear. So this poor "victim" was actually attempting to extort these rich kids... Sure didn't see any angry mobs form over that... Nope. Just quietly sweep it under the carpet and forget it.

[dent19]

HEY,HEY,HEY, It's FAAAAAAT ALBERT!!!!!!!

[bulldog]

Anyone really glad now that the Redskins signed Haynesworth and gave him $32M?

$32M for 4 sacks.

Great. Right up there with paying Archuleta $10M to be the 'up back' on punts back in 2006.

[Farbod21]

http://i.i.com.com/cnwk.1d/i/tim//2010/05/26/girl_6.jpg

http://i.i.com.com/cnwk.1d/i/tim//2010/05/26/girl2.jpg

[Destructis]

Pics or it didn't happen.....oops there they are.

[Skins4SB]

I'm really tired of discussing Albert's actions on and off the field. I have faith in this FO//staff to make the correct decision regarding him.

[ciresolstice]

Until there is a paternity test to confirm things one way or another it's a non story. It's bad pub to an extent, but this kind of things happens to celebs and athletes more than you'd think. All the premature bashing is unfounded. I'm not a huge Haynesworth fan but be rational for a second folks.

And while Silvia Mena is attractive, she is no Salma Hayek Look alike, sorry.

[Gibbs Hog Heaven]

Hold on. A coach who does it "all", he never won without John Elway. Look your opinion will sway if our defense plays badly next year. I don't know why people are fighting it. If Mike does not succeed, and there is a significant chance he does not, then we will be back on this forum asking for his head. And we will say how stupid he was if Al takes our money, goes to another team and wins. That is the bottom line; this game is not what you did for me, but what you've done lately. MIKE SHANNAHAN DID NOT WIN NOTHING WITHOUT JOHN ELWAY, NOTHING! We are a top flight defense, why mess with a god thing? Why make Al a bad guy, just because he didn't go to OTA's? Why make this a polarizing situation?

Two common held fallacies here. Coach Mike is nothing without Elway, and the Washington Redskins have had a stellar defense of late.

To turn your words around, what exactly did John Elway win without Mike Shanahan? ;).

10 years with Dan Reeves, 3 ass whooping's at the show. A further two with Wade Phillips. Nada. Then low, he's teamed with Coach Shanahan, and within the first four years of being together, he has two rings. Go figure.

And seriously, people need to get away from the ubber misleading notion that we have a "top flight defense" that doesn't need changing. If ever stats were a misleading notion as to the overall effect of a unit, it's on our D. We've had a "bend but don't break" defense for WAY too long now. Good at containing, but garbage at actually taking pressure off a woeful, struggling O by either making the big play and getting the darn ball back; or putting up those game changing defensive scores that REAL top flight D's do.

If Haynesworth's such an invaluable component, why aren't we a true top bracket D? Surely by association for all the praise lavished on him as such a "game changer" and upgrade last year, (being involved in 8 out of 22 sacks I think it was is hardly deserving of such high praise, but regardless); the defense would be a racking up sacks and turnovers galore as opposing QB's run scared?

Hail.

[Lombardi's_kid_brother]

Now that's good looking road beef.

Well done, Al.

[Lombardi's_kid_brother]

If you ain't no punk holla' we want pre-nup
WE WANT PRE-NUP!, yeah
It's something that you need to have
'Cause when she leave yo' ass she gon' leave with half
18 years, 18 years
And on her 18th birthday, he found out it wasn't his?

[Santana_89]

Yeah I do seem to remember a guy who was a tightend creeping while married with a cheerleader.

;) Correct me if I'm wrong but a Redskins player dating a Redskins cheerleader is a big :nono: ,is it not ??


sniff sniff, a clear heels wearing, exotic dancing Virgin with no concept of contraceptives, fell in love with Mr Buttersworth for his personality and great abs and with this "unexpected" pregnancy she needs 10 million to stay in the lifestyle she has grown accustomed to. :rolleyes:

I can't wait to see her on Nancy Grace and Larry King describing the duplicitous behavior of one Albert Haynesworth. I'm quite sure during "pillow talk" ,he promised that she would never have to work, er "dance" again and wanted to take care of her, her family and her bff's as well.



before saying its his he should go for DNA testing because if you are in the wrong State and you did the "right" thing by paying her medical bills, etc you can be on the hook even if it turns out you aren't the baby daddy

Exactly.

[TheShredSkinz]

With his ex-wife and this jump-off maybe they drain his loot making him NEED to train and work hard for us.

[Renegade7]

Some of ya'll have got your hateration on full boil lately when it comes to big Al. How is this different from any other most likely gold-digger that claims an NFL star would take care of her through her turmoil? What, that you don't like him? $10 million and you can't even prove who the dad is?

Gimmie a ****'n break, please...

[IrepDC]

I'm literally laughing at the people in this thread who expect Haynesworth to just throw MILLIONS at this STRIPPER as soon as she CLAIMS he got her pregnant.. until it is proven why would he?

[honejc]

Now that's good looking road beef.

Well done, Al.

FDA approved 100% grade A homegrown

[#1HIT]

Not to compare what Roethlisberger is alleged to have done to this situation-- but even if Ben is innocent of the actual allegations against him, he has still been criticized for putting himself in bad situations and using poor judgment.

I'd say the same could be said about Albert.
So Raping someone and having unprotected sex is in the same category? :hysterical:

[DGREENHULK]

Travis Henry is giving Big AL the face palm at this point :doh:

[michiskin]

I see a visit to the Povich show in Haynesworth's future

http://www.ipodarchive.com/screens/32.jpg

[Thirtyfive2seven]

Ok so if this is true that's all fine but the 10 million just makes her look like a money grubbing greedy *****. I would understand if she asked for lost wages, medical bills, etc, but 10 mil??

[SkinsCrushCowboys]

saw this on msn.com and thought please dont let this be a Redskins player. Clicked on the link and what do I see? A Redskins player. smh

"player" may be a stretch....IF true, just another brick in the wall of ass that he is

[OnlySkins4ever]

What's the big deal about Al impregnating a woman? Are football players not allowed to partake in pleasurable intercourse?

[Larry Brown #43]

So Raping someone and having unprotected sex is in the same category? :hysterical:

Yep, same category. That's why I clearly said I wasn't comparing the two incidents in the first sentence of the post. Congrats on your reading skills.

[terpskins10]

http://www.current-movie-reviews.com/sports/2010/05/26/silvia-mena-bears-all-with-suit-against-redskin-df-albert-haynesworth/

http://www.current-movie-reviews.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/silvia-mena-268x300.jpg

Doesn't even look like the same girl as in the other pictures, but in none of them do I see a Salma Hayek resemblance. *shrug*

[Ghost of Nibbs McPimpin]

sniff sniff, a clear heels wearing, exotic dancing Virgin with no concept of contraceptives, fell in love with Mr Buttersworth for his personality and great abs and with this "unexpected" pregnancy she needs 10 million to stay in the lifestyle she has grown accustomed to. :rolleyes:

Indeed, after one week or two, she's entitled to steady and prodigious sums of cash to support her cok...support the child. Obviously. I mean, after all the dudes who chase a pretty stripper, it's AMAZING that she gets pregnant by someone who signed an enormous NFL contract. Just, wow, what are the odds?!

Sure, a man should take care but it's because he should take care to protect himself from the rapacious claws of women who look at him as the avenue to the lifestyle to which their looks and genitalia (which, as you know, is so unique in this world) entitle them.

Frankly, none of this is my business and it's hard to cast aspersions when Albert may or may not have had sex with her or may have felt that he wore a condom or that she said she was on the pill (yes, he'd be dumb to believe her, but if someone told me that then said she got pregnant and "oh support me!" I'd be mighty suspicious.)

What are the odds this stuff would occur if child support were pegged to maintenance support of a child instead of being glorified alimony/palimony?

[MustangSteve]

Wait a sec! A lil slut shows and throws her beaver all over the place, and now wants to sue because Haynesworth doesn't love, respect, or want to be with her? She doesn't deserve a dayum dime!!! As far as the child, yes the father should take great care of it, but Haynesworth better make sure he's even the real father.

[Clark84]

I hope she sues him for $48 million and wins!

[veteranskinsfan]

He will be on Maury Povich show and they will open the envelope to see if it is Haynesworth kid or someone else's kid.

[Mad Hatter]

EDIT: Here (http://www.faniq.com/blog/Athletes-With-Illegitimate-Kids-The-Comprehensive-List-Blog-17243) is a newer list I found...
Wow! A list of guys that DON'T have illegitimate kids might be shorter than that list.

I'd reserve judgment until a paternity test shows whether he's the father or not. Who knows, maybe he's the father. Wouldn't be the first time something like that has happened. Or maybe he's not. Wouldn't be surprised either way.

[ntotoro]

One more thing, there is no such person as a "Salma Hayek look-alike." There is only ONE Salma Hayek!

You know something? That's the whole part of this story I find truly offensive. Even comparing another woman to Salma Hayek is grounds for war... ;)

[Student-of-da-Game]

In the words of a great street Poet:

"I aint Say'n she a Gold Digger......."

"but she aint mess'n wit no broke, broke broke broke"

[NattyLight]

This loser's life: Abort the baby, dance the poll, fin.

[ECU-ALUM]

He will be on Maury Povich show and they will open the envelope to see if it is Haynesworth kid or someone else's kid.

I'd love it if that happened and right before Maury opens the envelope turns to Albert and says, "Two quick questions 1) What do you think about the 3-4 defense? 2) Do you think your absence has been a distraction to the team?"

[DCranon21]

(late last year...)

AH: "Howzabout you and me gettin' together sometime, darlin'?"

Salma (while grinding on his lap): "I don't date customers, sorry."

(later that evening)

Another "exotic dancer": "Girl, do you know who that was you were giving a lap dance to? Alfred Haynesbert!"

Salma: "Who?"

Other "dancer": "Alfred Haynesbert! He plays football for the Redskins or something. Man just got paid $100 million dollars! It's in all the papers!"

Salma: "D'oh!" :doh:




I didn't want to quote all of it, but this is the post of the thread :rotflmao: Also we need pics of the Selma look alike :D

[Stugein]

If the rumors pan out and AH is the father, I hope he does the right thing and financially supports the child. The woman does not deserve $10M for spreading her legs. Were I in Big Al's shoes I'd fight for the state mandated child care payouts and set up a nice trust fund for the kid that nobody can touch but the child when he/she comes of age. Then I'd hire a PI and a forensic accountant to keep tabs and make sure that every dime of those payments goes towards stuff for the child. Take care of the kid..not the chick who went prospectin'.

[ntotoro]

He will be on Maury Povich show and they will open the envelope to see if it is Haynesworth kid or someone else's kid.

Once he's finished dancing around, he'll get tired and flop on the stage floor... :ols:

[talk show host]

since when did a man's just providing FINANCIALLY for his child start equating with doing "the right thing?"

[Stugein]

since when did a man's just providing FINANCIALLY for his child start equating with doing "the right thing?"

When we, unfortunately, stopped expecting any more than that from many young men today.

I'd say "do the right thing and support the kid financially and be there for him as a father figure and role model", but I try not to set myself up for disappointment. My neck would have a permanent twinge from all the head-shaking I'd end up doing. :D

[sugarbear326]

Someone should speak to Silvia's lawyer and ask him to add the Redskins to the suit, why, because he has abandoned us too. When Haynesworth signed, his signature meant he promised to "emotionally and financially support the Redskins But, "after one season Haynesworth has abandoned Skins Nation....

[LadySkinsFan]

Indeed, after one week or two, she's entitled to steady and prodigious sums of cash to support her cok...support the child. Obviously. I mean, after all the dudes who chase a pretty stripper, it's AMAZING that she gets pregnant by someone who signed an enormous NFL contract. Just, wow, what are the odds?!

Sure, a man should take care but it's because he should take care to protect himself from the rapacious claws of women who look at him as the avenue to the lifestyle to which their looks and genitalia (which, as you know, is so unique in this world) entitle them.

Frankly, none of this is my business and it's hard to cast aspersions when Albert may or may not have had sex with her or may have felt that he wore a condom or that she said she was on the pill (yes, he'd be dumb to believe her, but if someone told me that then said she got pregnant and "oh support me!" I'd be mighty suspicious.)

What are the odds this stuff would occur if child support were pegged to maintenance support of a child instead of being glorified alimony/palimony?

Like I wrote earlier, if one doesn't want to reproduce then one must take responsibility for one's own actions regarding birth control, and that includes men.

Thanks for your post that slams women up and down and makes them solely responsible for pregnancy. In fact, a lot of the posts in this thread show exactly how some of you fellas think about women. The Madonna/Whore dichotomy is alive and well in this thread.

[JCamp4QB]

This is really a non-story to me. What he does in his personal life is his business. My guess is, he's not the first star to be blamed rightfully/wrongfully for a pregnancy.

Amen. There is nothing new about this story. Do you think it was an accident that she happened to get knocked up by the guy with the biggest defense contract signing ever?????

I know alot of folks may not like the guy but, come on.


This has "GOLD-DIGGER" written all over it......

Besides, who cares who he sleeps with. Just get to camp!

HAIL

[JCamp4QB]

I didn't want to quote all of it, but this is the post of the thread :rotflmao: Also we need pics of the Selma look alike :D
lol:ols:

[Skin'Em84]

This Albert Haynesworth Witch hunt is reminding me of what happened in the 2005 offseason with one Sean Taylor . The same anonymous internet judge and jury were hanging him out to dry following the ATV indecent .

look this sounds like a typical: "I had a brush with someone who has made millions I want my millions" . They aim high (10- million) in the hope to come away with a fraction of that and 15 seconds of fame . It is pathetic and it is pathetic people give this life .

I don't care if it really is Alberts child or not . If it is then he has to man up and pay for his mistake (but not 10million) . If it isn't who cares ?

Another non story that the burnem and lynchem will use to bash another Redskins player ... yipiee :/


QFT. I believe just as many people were upset about Sean practicing in Miami during that as well.

[Stugein]

The kid deserves to be cared for and provided for, both financially and emotionally, and to have a strong father figure in its life.

The woman, on the other hand, does not deserve $10M for managing not to suffocate beneath Albert Haynesworth.

[SWFLSkins]

I guess I'm not in my right mind then because 1) I wouldn't have ended up in this situation and 2) if I did (which I wouldn't) I would be a man, accept responsibility, and be present in my child's life.

You must not be in your right mind then, how could you possibly think about others first before ones self? :evilg:

[SWFLSkins]

The Madonna/Whore dichotomy is alive and well in this thread.


It is the dichotomy that started the trouble for the girl in the first place. C'mon LadySkin your in room with a bunch of (Bundy's) mumbling farters, what do you expect? I would bet that most on here are good fathers that would do the right thing for the child, but there are also many cases where the women take full advantage of paternity issues and the courts overall siding with the femine side in such matters from the outset.

I know one personally that got taken to the bank, --to pick up his money for her.

[Ghost of Nibbs McPimpin]

Like I wrote earlier, if one doesn't want to reproduce then one must take responsibility for one's own actions regarding birth control, and that includes men.

Thanks for your post that slams women up and down and makes them solely responsible for pregnancy. In fact, a lot of the posts in this thread show exactly how some of you fellas think about women. The Madonna/Whore dichotomy is alive and well in this thread.

It includes men, but you're unaware that people lie to men about what they're taking? That people have gone so far as to dig condoms out of the trash or prick holes or "oops, missed a pill(deliberately)"

Your reference to Madonna/Whore complex is absurd, it has very little relevance, as no one here is demonstrating a dichotomous and cognitively dissonant view of females, it's a realistic view.

See, no one would expect that a system rigged in favor of men would not encourage men to act in such a way as to benefit themselves. In fact, nature itself is a system which shows that rich men and good looking women will work to secure resources or secure sex with attractive partners. This is not about slams on women, it's about slams on what we allow or incent in women.

The reason some old laws and structures were in place, however hateful to some, is that they militated against these types of situations.

The responsibility, by the way, recognizing that you are the gatekeeper, is on you. Especially in a world where the person with the womb gets to dispose of a child the man wants via abortion or terminate her rights via adoption but one night gets a man 18-21 years of servitude.

The current situation is one in which men have all of the responsibilities and none of the privileges or rights. Therefore, one would expect different discussions than one would find in a different system.

BTW, if men were allowed to terminate obligations/rights to children conceived outside of marriage, what are the odds these women would be getting pregnant at the same rate, if at all?

It's because we participate in subsidizing their mistakes and attempts to enrich themselves that this is an issue.

Men will seek to secure access to attractive sexual partners. Women want that, but value more highly securing the resources that will support her and her child. This is actually OK but kind of expresses itself in dysfunctional ways in a society which pretends that these things aren't true.

[LadySkinsFan]

It includes men, but you're unaware that people lie to men about what they're taking? That people have gone so far as to dig condoms out of the trash or prick holes or "oops, missed a pill(deliberately)"

Your reference to Madonna/Whore complex is absurd, it has very little relevance, as no one here is demonstrating a dichotomous and cognitively dissonant view of females, it's a realistic view.

See, no one would expect that a system rigged in favor of men would not encourage men to act in such a way as to benefit themselves. In fact, nature itself is a system which shows that rich men and good looking women will work to secure resources or secure sex with attractive partners. This is not about slams on women, it's about slams on what we allow or incent in women.

The reason some old laws and structures were in place, however hateful to some, is that they militated against these types of situations.

The responsibility, by the way, recognizing that you are the gatekeeper, is on you. Especially in a world where the person with the womb gets to dispose of a child the man wants via abortion or terminate her rights via adoption but one night gets a man 18-21 years of servitude.

The current situation is one in which men have all of the responsibilities and none of the privileges or rights. Therefore, one would expect different discussions than one would find in a different system.

BTW, if men were allowed to terminate obligations/rights to children conceived outside of marriage, what are the odds these women would be getting pregnant at the same rate, if at all?

It's because we participate in subsidizing their mistakes and attempts to enrich themselves that this is an issue.

Men will seek to secure access to attractive sexual partners. Women want that, but value more highly securing the resources that will support her and her child. This is actually OK but kind of expresses itself in dysfunctional ways in a society which pretends that these things aren't true.

You must have missed my post where I posit that all are responsible for their reproductive freedom/responsibility. If men truly don't want to procreate, then take appropriate measures. Don't leave that condom behind, know that condoms will break, that some women are indeed scheming to use a child to get money and will do what what they will to effect that. Why rely on the word of someone who says that they have taken care of the birth control? Why are you ceding control over your reproduction to someone else? Do you know that some women cannot take the pill and they have to rely on other methods as well?

Why not advocate for more effective birth control for men, such as the male birth control pill? Why not research for other methods for men? Why must the burden for birth control ALWAYS fall on the women, it's her fault if she gets pregnant? That's just the easy way out. If they can make pills for men to get it up, then they can make birth control for men.

It takes 2 to get pregnant, and if you don't want a child, then take responsibility for your reproduction yourself and DON'T RELY ON ANYONE ELSE! If you are a man, use a condom and take that condom with you, rinse it out, do anything you can. If you are a woman, do whatever you can to prevent pregnancy. It's all about communication between the parties. Mistakes happen on both sides, that's why support is necessary.

When I had my child, I couldn't use the pill and other forms failed. The condom broke and I got pregnant. In those days, fathers could sidestep their responsibilities in support for the child, so I didn't get any. That's why the laws are tougher now, so children are not raised in poverty.

[HailToTheRedskins14]

Even sadder is the people who say that even if it is true that it's no big deal.

It isn't a big deal. He probably didn't believe when she said it was his.

Let's wait until the child is actually born before we claim Haynesworth is absent in his child's life and doesn't care.

[Darc Requiem]

As Shanny said, "You're either in or your out". Big Al was in.

I thing Big Al got confused. He was in and then he was out, then he was in...well you know the rest :silly:

[Rocky21]

Here is her pic. http://http://www.facebook.com/profile/pic.php?oid=AAAAAwAgACAAAAAKjVtx8ymmd_kZq2E7pG9sfW 9EVGxx_eWIkjHLKcDwZ794NyTbrAvoR1ZsHksHdyKzFTppaxh8 yybqdQ7B1mNYiOA5pHI20CeNVUDihaecqMJI41rjJa_BN3g8vc 8KFpgo&size=normalDoes she look like Selma Hayek?

Edit: looks like it's not showing up. Oh well. Try this link. http://www.facebook.com/people/Silvia-Mena/1124824501

[Doctorfro]

As much money as he has, he should be able to pay her off out of his pocket. Idiot.

[Arsenic]

So Big Al had 2 choices:
a) pay her to go away, avoiding the media circus, regardless if he's the actual Father
b) wait to see if he's the Dad, knowing the media will have a field day with the 100million$$ man


edit: You could say C) Dont sleep around.. but surely a larger percentage of us has had one night stands.

[Califan007]

I thing Big Al got confused. He was in and then he was out, then he was in...well you know the rest :silly:

Unless she was on top...then he just laid there. Lazy fat ass :mad: :mad:...

[Califan007]

Silvia Mena

http://i.i.com.com/cnwk.1d/i/tim//2010/05/26/girl_6.jpg


Silvia Mena

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v198/dzinermachine/sm2.jpg


Silvia Mena

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v198/dzinermachine/sm.jpg


Apparently Alfred Haynesbert has impregnated three different Silvia Menas...and none of them look like Salma Hayek.

http://i302.photobucket.com/albums/nn103/3thaneejoo/Salma.jpg

[Darc Requiem]

@Califan007

So you are saying Haynesbert is into S & M :silly:

[ddub52]

Could it be possible that this "exotic dancer" was impregnated by someone else? Maybe he knew that she had been with someone else so he cut her off. Not that I would ever be caught with an exotic dancer, but if I were him I wouldnt be shelling out cash to a girl who more or less performs sexual acts for a living.

[NeueRedskinWelle]

I'm not backing AH on this...

But there are some CRAZY women in this world who would do everything in their power to sink their fingers into 100+ mil, just because they can.

[ressecup1987]

The first one actually does look a little like Salma Hyek, but the other two are definitely different people completely.

[Califan007]

@Califan007

So you are saying Haynesbert is into S & M :silly:

BOOOO!!! lol :ols:

[Redskins Anonymous]

MAybe if he was in camp Larry Johnson would have explained to him how to deal with women...


A serious thought now - how is it that this lady deserves 10 million? Child support - yes, but 10 million? Can you say greedy ho?

[Siven]

As much money as he has, he should be able to pay her off out of his pocket. Idiot.

Child Support is going to be ****ing ridiculous, she'll probably request something absurd like 300,000 a year and get it.

[Siven]

MAybe if he was in camp Larry Johnson would have explained to him how to deal with women...


A serious thought now - how is it that this lady deserves 10 million? Child support - yes, but 10 million? Can you say greedy ho?

I have a friend, who is very wealthy (of his own hard work), and he was looking at some condoms that he had, while still in the wrappers, and the girl he was seeing had been poking holes in them presumably in an attempt to get pregnant so she could claim "IM KEEPING IT" and live like a fat cat the rest of her life.

I guarantee that if this was John Doe or any normal person she'd have had it taken care of by now.

[Ghost of Nibbs McPimpin]

the girl he was seeing had been poking holes in them presumably in an attempt to get pregnant so she could claim "IM KEEPING IT" and live like a fat cat the rest of her life.

I guarantee that if this was John Doe or any normal person she'd have had it taken care of by now.

Indeed. In fact, it's like a sliding scale. A girl with a lot of financial hardship could do something like that to a fairly middle class man simply because he's the best she can do. Actually, a form of this does happen because a woman who has slept with many men in a short period will get pregnant and then claim that the father is the one with, surprise!, the most financial resources or status of the group. In a very few cases, it may be the one who she actually has the closest bond with who she think she can ensnare.

As I tried to explain to LSF, this isn't about looking down on women at all, but about acknowledging the biological reality of the impulses that drive us, even beyond our ken to explain and confess to ourselves. A woman tries to secure resources and a man to protect her as she raises offspring (this can be skewed socially, of course, but this is the reality) and much of our dating life and life outside of the world of mating can be explained by a male's drive to risk, push boundaries both intellectual and physical, and often merely for the sake of securing sexual resources in the form of nubile and fertile women (likely to secure the best genetic parentage, so long as his genes are involved but it, of course, gets skewed into being just about sex.)

Now, of course, it is evil to poke holes in a condom or "oops! on purpose" forget your pills or birth control device in order to get pregnant but it's biology at play in a world that doesn't always conduce to biology's smooth function and expression. Just as it would be wrong to drug or coerce sex from women or outright lie to them about who you are or knowingly pass on disease.

The problem is, falsely claiming pregnancy or deliberately creating the situation is akin to enslaving a man for a period of no less than 18 years when he d

Now, Al is responsible if he didn't take the steps but even then, why is adoption or Albert having a nanny take care of his own offspring (as opposed to a STRIPPER, I'm sure his home CAN be more stable and more conducive) not an option for Ms. Hayek II? Oh, because if that were the case, she would be securing ZERO in financial support and maintaining close proximity to ALbert's status (also a factor) via a child.

It's ugly reality on display. A man's job is to make sure he does not allow it to happen but that's often (not always) because the world is filled with duplicitous individuals seeking to get a hold of his resources (be it a woman, the State, etc)

[mbws]

I'm on Albert's side in this. If it is his child, he should definitely support it, but there is no way she should get anything remotely close to 10 million.

If it turns out this is not his child, she should be prosecuted for extortion.

[LadySkinsFan]

Again I say, if someone doesn't want to procreate, then they should be responsible for their OWN reproductive freedom, whatever that may be. So guys, if you don't want to have a child, it is up to YOU to do whatever you can to not procreate AND not rely on your partner to be responsible for birth control. That includes locking up condoms, or believing that the woman is on the pill, taking the pill, or using some other method. Be responsible for your own swimmers. Only you have control of them.

Also, these days DNA testing will determine if someone is a parent, so it's not guessing anymore. I also think that laws should be changed that automatically assume that children born of a marriage are the husband's offspring, unless it's a matter of artifical insemination where the husband agrees that the resultant offspring are his or in the case of adoption. I don't think a man should have to financially support children who aren't his. Science has moved us past this point.

[guest]

Albert used too much butter

http://www.eatmedaily.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2008/11/snl-whipped-butter.jpg

http://www.hulu.com/watch/42022/saturday-night-live-grady-wilsons-put-the-fire-back