WP: Colt Brennan working out with McNabb, receivers

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There's another player who will be a constant presence this week with McNabb and the other offensive specialists: quarterback Colt Brennan. Brennan began working out with Brett Fischer of Fischer Sports back in January, several weeks before he and McNabb would share the same locker room at Redskins Park.

"The first day he was here, he came in wearing sandals. He forgot his sneakers," Fischer said with a chuckle. "He didn't even know Donovan then. It was one of Donovan's first days back after the season. I asked Donovan, 'Do you have an extra pair of shoes?' He said, 'Of course.' He went and got them from the back of his car. Little did any of us know they'd be teammates later."

Brennan and McNabb have been working out together at Fischer Sports, studying the playbook, going through the same sets of drills. And that will continue this week, when some of their other teammates arrive for "Hell Week."

This is Brennan's first offseason working out with Fischer. Early in the process, Brennan felt some discomfort in his right knee and had minor arthroscopic surgery to clean up his meniscus. That means that entering just his third year in the league, Brennan has now had scopes on his right hip, left hip, right knee and left knee.

Despite all the work, we're hearing that Brennan feels as healthy as he has since college, and Fischer reports that the quarterback's recent workouts show no signs of pain or injury.

[MustangSteve]

I pray to God that CB catches onto this system and becomes a great qb. I hope he wins the #2 spot on the roster because I just don't trust Rex leading this team. Wouldn't it be great to have a young franchise qb on our team for once.

[HailGreen28]

Good news. Cue the "Cult of Colt" resurgence, LOL. But I would be pleased if we already had our QB of the future.

Way too early to for such talk, though.

[rd421]

Honestly I would love to see Mcnabb get a 3 year extension to give colt that time to learn this offense and be "groomed" to take the job

[kevincollateral]

Honestly I would love to see Mcnabb get a 3 year extension to give colt that time to learn this offense and be "groomed" to take the job

that would mean colt would take over when hes 29. thats a damn old first time starting qb! hah

[DexterSackMachine]

I pray to God that CB catches onto this system and becomes a great qb. I hope he wins the #2 spot on the roster because I just don't trust Rex leading this team. Wouldn't it be great to have a young franchise qb on our team for once.


I don't understand the reasoning behind not trusting Rex Grossman who is a gunslinger but at least has proven that he can play at the NFL level, yet feeling comfortable with Colt Brennan who is also a gunslinger but has never taken a snap and still can't stay healthy. Putting Colt at the #2 spot this year over a QB who has NFL experience and knows the system would be the worst move imaginable. Think Todd Collins...

[SWFLSkins]

Watch out, here come the Cult. haha

[DGREENHULK]

My 1st thought was WHY???? He won't make the team anyway..Then my 2nd thought was GREAT someone has to keep our guys hydrated its hot in hell week. Thanks Colt for keeping the G2 coming. Oh and I hopes he remembers his shoes this time :doh:

[kappaluvacee]

I think it's a non-story. Colt is already on location. It can only be a positive thing for Colt because he gets to see D5's approach to the game further. I can't imagine D5 is cutting reps with any of the receivers for Colt.

[GritzRgreat]

Maybe he can bring his BFF Coley to the party...

[Santana_89]

The more our offense gels the better:). Colt has a great opportunity to learn from one of the best qb's in the league. I hope that he's able to asborb as much as he possibly can. There could come a day when Colt is needed to step in, and hopefully he'll be ready.

Is there any word from if Bartel and Grossman are in attendance as well?

[zskins]

I don't understand the reasoning behind not trusting Rex Grossman who is a gunslinger but at least has proven that he can play at the NFL level, yet feeling comfortable with Colt Brennan who is also a gunslinger but has never taken a snap and still can't stay healthy. Putting Colt at the #2 spot this year over a QB who has NFL experience and knows the system would be the worst move imaginable. Think Todd Collins...

I guess you missed the part in the article that says he is totally healthy now. The hip surgeries was to correct a genetic problem - so you can't say he can't stay healthy.

I have seen what Rex can do on the field - which isn't much. Logic says if Colt wins the #2 spot this year then that clearly shows he is better than Rex and the coaches trust him over Rex. ;)

[gortiz]

I pray to God that CB catches onto this system and becomes a great qb. I hope he wins the #2 spot on the roster because I just don't trust Rex leading this team. Wouldn't it be great to have a young franchise qb on our team for once.

i know i should be given a 100 lashes for saying this, but romo was in the same situation right? he sat for 3, 4 years in the same system?

maybe CB can give donovan a run for his money a year or two from now?

[Dukes and Skins]

Good to hear, I know that some will call me crazy but I'm in the same boat as some others have posted. I would like to see Brennan learn the system and be a good back-up QB for us.

[SkinsHokieFan]

i know i should be given a 100 lashes for saying this, but romo was in the same situation right? he sat for 3, 4 years in the same system?

maybe CB can give donovan a run for his money a year or two from now?

The difference being of course, Romo was starting by age 26

Colt is already 27

[zskins]

The difference being of course, Romo was starting by age 26

Colt is already 27

And Kurt Warner started when he was 28. ;)

[MustangSteve]

I don't understand the reasoning behind not trusting Rex Grossman who is a gunslinger but at least has proven that he can play at the NFL level, yet feeling comfortable with Colt Brennan who is also a gunslinger but has never taken a snap and still can't stay healthy. Putting Colt at the #2 spot this year over a QB who has NFL experience and knows the system would be the worst move imaginable. Think Todd Collins...Im sure not going to say Rex can't lead this team, I hope he can just inase he's needed too. But Rex would take gunslinging too far, throwing bombs to ghosts at times. Hopefully he's matured and knows Kyles system by now.

[Mercuryrising]

The most interesting part of the story for me, was the part where one of them showed up to workout unprepared, without sneakers, and the other one had extra's, as in preperation for any situation.

I am sorry but CB is entering his 3rd season and fighting for his NFL job and he just wanders into his workouts like some beach bum looking for a good taco shop?

[RonArtest15]

The most interesting part of the story for me, was the part where one of them showed up to workout unprepared, without sneakers, and the other one had extra's, as in preperation for any situation.

I am sorry but CB is entering his 3rd season and fighting for his NFL job and he just wanders into his workouts like some beach bum looking for a good taco shop?

This.

If you can't even remember the proper shoes to a workout, how are you going to grasp the playbook? Wasn't preparation one of the many knocks on Colt in the past?

[rick7423]

How old was Steve Young?

[Oldskool]

And Kurt Warner started when he was 28. ;)

Colt has had hamstring issues and scopes on his right hip, left hip, right knee and left knee. Shouldn't he prove to have a bit more endurance and actually beat out the #2 Qb on the roster before anointing him the next "insert player here"? :silly:

[Mr. Sinister]

I'm afraid this will be Colt's last go round with the Skins.

[texasthunder]

I don't understand the reasoning behind not trusting Rex Grossman who is a gunslinger but at least has proven that he can play at the NFL level, yet feeling comfortable with Colt Brennan who is also a gunslinger but has never taken a snap and still can't stay healthy. Putting Colt at the #2 spot this year over a QB who has NFL experience and knows the system would be the worst move imaginable. Think Todd Collins...


#1= the Redskins drafted CB15, they did not draft Grossman.
#2- Grossman has showed what he can do in the NFL (some say he is above average, some say he is below average, just depends on your view), but Colt really has not shown what he can do.
#3- there seems to be some "nut hugging" going on with Colt, and it could be that there are those that hope he turns out like Brady (a 6th round gem).

All in all, I would say it seems more like a "popularity contest" vs talent to be the #2 QB.

The one thing that is great about our present coaching staff is that they have the wisdom to decide who is better, talent wise.

[DexterSackMachine]

I guess you missed the part in the article that says he is totally healthy now.
And what's he supposed to say? He has had like 5 surgeries in 3 years after virtually no playing time. I'm not trusting that he can now give you 20 games a year just because he said he feels good.



Logic says if Colt wins the #2 spot this year then that clearly shows he is better than Rex and the coaches trust him over Rex. ;)

That's not going to happen in a million years...

[LadySkinsFan]

The most interesting part of the story for me, was the part where one of them showed up to workout unprepared, without sneakers, and the other one had extra's, as in preperation for any situation.

I am sorry but CB is entering his 3rd season and fighting for his NFL job and he just wanders into his workouts like some beach bum looking for a good taco shop?

You might want to check the story, like the part where CB15 forgot his shoes was in January, NOT THIS MONTH.

If you're going to comment, at least get the facts straight.

And so what if he didn't have his shoes, maybe he thought they were in his car already. I'm sure you've never forgotten one little thing that you needed in your job.

[LadySkinsFan]

#1= the Redskins drafted CB15, they did not draft Grossman.
#2- Grossman has showed what he can do in the NFL (some say he is above average, some say he is below average, just depends on your view), but Colt really has not shown what he can do.
#3- there seems to be some "nut hugging" going on with Colt, and it could be that there are those that hope he turns out like Brady (a 6th round gem).

All in all, I would say it seems more like a "popularity contest" vs talent to be the #2 QB.

The one thing that is great about our present coaching staff is that they have the wisdom to decide who is better, talent wise.

Hall of Fame game, CB5 (then) marched the team down the field and played well. Then Zorn (the pro QB coach who has only MHasselbeck to show for his efforts) got hold of him and tried to mold him in his own image (Zorn's). For the first year and 2nd offseason/training camp, Zorn messed with his throwing motion, his feet and anything else he could. CB had surgery on his hips and had a hamstring injury. If these things had happened to JC, I'll bet a bunch here would use those same things as an excuse.

Look at what the Shanahans have done this offseason. Do they draft a young QB? No. Did they sign a UDFA QB? No. Have they cut CB15? No.

Check out those facts, let's see what happens in camp.

I like that CB15 is working out with DM5 and the offensive unit. They will all get reps because it's the right thing to do, to be prepared for anything. Someone asked if Rex or Bartel were there. Do we have an answer, or does their lack of participation say something too?

[Redskins Anonymous]

How old was Steve Young?


24 years old going 3-16 in two seasons with the Bucs in 1985 and 1986. He threw for 11 TD's and 21 INT's in those 19 games. That was after starting two seasons in the USFL so you could even say 22.

That being said, I have seen Steve Young and Colt Brennan is no Steve Young.

[Kindred]

Do all NFL teams have such love/hate feelings about their young draft picks? Did Kevin Kolb have this with philly fans? It seems like people are prejudging him based off...what? draft spot? A few preseason games? I dont get it.

[Geoff_K]

that would mean colt would take over when hes 29. thats a damn old first time starting qb! hah


agreed. if he is going to be that old, let's pick up another prospect that is much younger.

[rick7423]

24 years old going 3-16 in two seasons with the Bucs in 1985 and 1986. He threw for 11 TD's and 21 INT's in those 19 games. That was after starting two seasons in the USFL so you could even say 22.

That being said, I have seen Steve Young and Colt Brennan is no Steve Young.
I agree, but Steve was selected in the supplemental draft and was also the backup in SF for 4 years before getting his real opportunity to shine in 1991, at 30 years old!!!

Yes he did play some before that (rarely when Joe Montana was playing) but was a good backup. It was when he took over in SF at 30 (!!!) years old that he set the records he did.

Colt is only 27 and has several viable years to play yet. Give him a break.

I find it amazing that so many people actually want him to fail. With JC, he had a shot and actually FAILED.

[honejc]

Do all NFL teams have such love/hate feelings about their young draft picks? Did Kevin Kolb have this with philly fans? It seems like people are prejudging him based off...what? draft spot? A few preseason games? I dont get it.

and dont forget that people judge him by his cult following. which hasnt really helped his case

[DieselPwr44]

Colt can learn a few things from McNabb.

The same could not have been said last year.

[Dukes and Skins]

Do all NFL teams have such love/hate feelings about their young draft picks? Did Kevin Kolb have this with philly fans? It seems like people are prejudging him based off...what? draft spot? A few preseason games? I dont get it.

Kolb was exactly the same way it felt like, many wanted Reid to leave the team for drafting a QB when they already had McNabb. It's always this way with teams, fans will say this guy is great or this guy is terrible before a single pre-season game and then their tune will switch if they perform well. (See Kolb last year when DMC5 was out)

[rick7423]

You are correct my friend, Colt was supposed to learn from a legendary coach, ZORN! JC never really had a fair shot, but he had a shot. Now he has a better opportunity in Oakland and Colt has one more chance to prove that he is not a has been or a never was.

The fact that he is working on his own to improve says alot to me. I think he is more optimistic this year and it should show in his play. It will show one way or another on the field where it should, not here with pure speculation.

[ArmchairRedskin]

Colt is still on the team?

[zskins]

And what's he supposed to say? He has had like 5 surgeries in 3 years after virtually no playing time. I'm not trusting that he can now give you 20 games a year just because he said he feels good.

Let me repeat again in case you missed it the first time I said it: He got two major surgeries to fix his bones that were longer than a normal human being due to a GENETIC DEFECT! This was causing him to have hamstring problems.




That's not going to happen in a million years...

I see you used your crystal ball rather then seeing the logic that I gave you. :doh:

Once again I will repeat: If he beats out Rex for the #2 spot and the Shannys clearly see that then I trust the new coaches over your million years thingy.


Colt is still on the team?

Thank you for posting your lack of knowledge of your favorite team. This clearly shows how much you keep up with your team.

Or MTH would say you just spammed. ;)

[DirtyGunz8]

he's just trying to steal his number 5 jersey back

[zskins]

he's just trying to steal his number 5 jersey back

Actually that would be an incorrect statement.

He wore 15 in college and is quite happy he has that same number again. :)

[LadySkinsFan]

I think he moved to get the 15 jersey as soon as Collins was cut, before we got DM5.

[RocketCitySkins]

I think he moved to get the 15 jersey as soon as Collins was cut, before we got DM5.

For someone who preaches "get your facts straight" you blew that one.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/04/05/brennan-lets-mcnabb-wear-no-5-jersey/

[Redskins Anonymous]

I don't want Brennan to fail; i just don't think he is the next Steve Young, Kurt Warner, etc.. If there is a reason that I want to see him fail, it would be because his fans are not fans of this team and are completely delusional. They came on here the second he became a Redskin and professed that he was Jesus on high. I think he is a dime a dozen in this league, but I can understand their love for him as he represents their team - Hawaii. I get it; they're proud of their guy. But I get sick of hearing that this guy who is the third string QB is so amazing. If he were so great, would we have McNabb? Would he have played behind Jason Campbell? If he was as good as they think he is, he would have been picked number one overall and given a presidential medal of honor for his awesomnity. But instead he is an average third string QB (which is code for he is barely on the team) on a team that went 4-12.

Reality eludes UH fans apparently.

[RonArtest15]

I don't want Brennan to fail; i just don't think he is the next Steve Young, Kurt Warner, etc.. If there is a reason that I want to see him fail, it would be because his fans are not fans of this team and are completely delusional. They came on here the second he became a Redskin and professed that he was Jesus on high. I think he is a dime a dozen in this league, but I can understand their love for him as he represents their team - Hawaii. I get it; they're proud of their guy. But I get sick of hearing that this guy who is the third string QB is so amazing. If he were so great, would we have McNabb? Would he have played behind Jason Campbell? If he was as good as they think he is, he would have been picked number one overall and given a presidential medal of honor for his awesomnity. But instead he is an average third string QB (which is code for he is barely on the team) on a team that went 4-12.

Reality eludes UH fans apparently.

Preach.

Same group of "fans" who said Colt would have had more success at UF than Tebow.

[RedskinsInFebruary]

Do all NFL teams have such love/hate feelings about their young draft picks? Did Kevin Kolb have this with philly fans? It seems like people are prejudging him based off...what? draft spot? A few preseason games? I dont get it.

I don't get it either--I've never seen so much baseless prejudice and weird emotional ill-will directed towards one of our own players before. I'm not really sure what good's supposed to come from it in terms of our team's success either....

[Redskins Anonymous]

I don't get it either--I've never seen so much baseless prejudice and weird emotional ill-will directed towards one of our own players before. I'm not really sure what good's supposed to come from it in terms of our team's success either....


What is hard to understand about getting tired of hearing how great a third string QB is? Seriously, it seems kind of obvious to me. If I kept saying to you that the janitor at NASA should be in charge of mission control because he is really smart, wouldn't that be obviously annoying even if the janitor has an IQ of 159? Get it?

It gets old.

[darrelgreenie]

Makes perfect sense to me.

Especially since they'll be working on the actual offense.
McNabb can't throw to all those receivers by himself he'll have dead arm by the end of the week.
And you don't want some outsider having access to Shanahan playbook.
Brennan is basically going to be McNabb's personal hell week 'camp arm'.
The trade off is that Brennan gains an invalueable opportunity work on the offense and to learn from McNabb.
Hopefully this experience will help put him in position to challenge Rex Grossman for the No.2 spot.

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4014/4532163410_5b36dd2a7c.jpg

[B&G808]

I don't want Brennan to fail; i just don't think he is the next Steve Young, Kurt Warner, etc.. If there is a reason that I want to see him fail, it would be because his fans are not fans of this team and are completely delusional. They came on here the second he became a Redskin and professed that he was Jesus on high. I think he is a dime a dozen in this league, but I can understand their love for him as he represents their team - Hawaii. I get it; they're proud of their guy. But I get sick of hearing that this guy who is the third string QB is so amazing. If he were so great, would we have McNabb? Would he have played behind Jason Campbell? If he was as good as they think he is, he would have been picked number one overall and given a presidential medal of honor for his awesomnity. But instead he is an average third string QB (which is code for he is barely on the team) on a team that went 4-12.

Reality eludes UH fans apparently.
Your location speaks volumes!:beatdeadhorse:

[zskins]

I don't want Brennan to fail; i just don't think he is the next Steve Young, Kurt Warner, etc.. If there is a reason that I want to see him fail, it would be because his fans are not fans of this team and are completely delusional. They came on here the second he became a Redskin and professed that he was Jesus on high. I think he is a dime a dozen in this league, but I can understand their love for him as he represents their team - Hawaii. I get it; they're proud of their guy. But I get sick of hearing that this guy who is the third string QB is so amazing. If he were so great, would we have McNabb? Would he have played behind Jason Campbell? If he was as good as they think he is, he would have been picked number one overall and given a presidential medal of honor for his awesomnity. But instead he is an average third string QB (which is code for he is barely on the team) on a team that went 4-12.

Reality eludes UH fans apparently.

:doh: there is so much fail in your post that I don't even know where to begin. It is the fans like you who are delusional and think some here who wants to see what Colt can really do after being fixed and all only live in HI.

If one is picked #1 overall that means they are great QB...Russell *cough* Russell. :cool:

[SkinsTribeVA]

I don't want Brennan to fail; i just don't think he is the next Steve Young, Kurt Warner, etc.. If there is a reason that I want to see him fail, it would be because his fans are not fans of this team and are completely delusional. They came on here the second he became a Redskin and professed that he was Jesus on high. I think he is a dime a dozen in this league, but I can understand their love for him as he represents their team - Hawaii. I get it; they're proud of their guy. But I get sick of hearing that this guy who is the third string QB is so amazing. If he were so great, would we have McNabb? Would he have played behind Jason Campbell? If he was as good as they think he is, he would have been picked number one overall and given a presidential medal of honor for his awesomnity. But instead he is an average third string QB (which is code for he is barely on the team) on a team that went 4-12.

Reality eludes UH fans apparently.

While I agree with your general sentiment, it's completely untrue that talent wins out every time. You mention Kurt Warner, the guy who bounced around from training camps to Arena Football to grocery stores to NFL Europe and finally onto the Rams' depth chart. He was 3rd string, and only became 2nd when they cut both the 1st and 2nd stringers from the previous season. They signed someone else to play QB but he tore an ACL or MCL or something in preseason. Dick Vermeil STILL wanted to find someone else, but some of the teammates expressed confidence in Warner so he got a shot--and put on several of the greatest NFL seasons by a QB ever. Looking at the big picture though, that season would not have been possible without Dick Vermeil, Mike Martz, Marshall Faulk, Torry Holt, Isaac Bruce, etc, etc

Without a doubt, there are dozens of players in the NFL who could be All-Pros given an opportunity and the right situation. Just as there are thousands of teenagers who could be varsity starters if they had gone out for the team when they were younger. Jason Campbell probably could have lead a Gibbs I team to a Super Bowl. Several RB's would have never become stars if they hadn't been drafted by Mike Shanahan in Denver. Innumerable players may have become great if they hadn't been drafted by Oakland or Detroit. I think you get my point.

I'm not saying Colt's a franchise QB, or even that he's starting material. But when you watch his highlights it's obvious he's naturally very accurate and he's a gamer (got "moxie" as they love to say). Given an opportunity and the right situation, he may become a great QB, or maybe not. Obtaining a proven franchise QB was the right move since the coaches obviously want to win now. Perhaps the opportunity and right situation for Colt will come in 2-4 years when McNabb retires, we've rebuilt the OL and WR/RB corps, and the defense has solidified.

[ArmchairRedskin]

Thank you for posting your lack of knowledge of your favorite team. This clearly shows how much you keep up with your team.

Or MTH would say you just spammed. ;)




I would say you spammed just as much as I did. You criticizing my post instead of keeping on the topic at hand is adding nothing to the discussion.

And yes, my comment was a slight to our 3rd string QB, not an indicator of how much I keep up with the team.

You 11 year olds nead to learn your place.

[CM916]

For me, the ideal situation would be for McNabb to start, Rex to backup on game days, and Colt to come in as the new starter with a full week of 1st team practice should McNabb miss an entire game. I love Colt but I trust Rex as a backup if the Shanahans do.

[rick7423]

Makes perfect sense to me.

Especially since they'll be working on the actual offense.
McNabb can't throw to all those receivers by himself he'll have dead arm by the end of the week.
And you don't want some outsider having access to Shanahan playbook.
Brennan is basically going to be McNabb's personal hell week 'camp arm'.
The trade off is that Brennan gains an invalueable opportunity work on the offense and to learn from McNabb.
Hopefully this experience will help put him in position to challenge Rex Grossman for the No.2 spot.


Very good observation, and probably accurate. Regardless, I am glad the kid is getting the opportunity.

So can we please STOP :beatdeadhorse:

[skinfan2k]

I just hate that there are so many obsessed fans for a player who has done nothing on this level and they claim he will. besides that, i like him. its more of his following that i am mad with

[zskins]

I would say you spammed just as much as I did. You criticizing my post instead of keeping on the topic at hand is adding nothing to the discussion.

I would say that you didn't care to read rest of the thread or else you would have seen my posts above with real discussions going on.




And yes, my comment was a slight to our 3rd string QB, not an indicator of how much I keep up with the team. If you have no interest in a 3rd string QB why even bother to open a thread about a 3rd string QB?


You 11 year olds nead to learn your place.Since I am only 11, I won't argue with an adult, but will point out that if you are going to put some eleven-year-olds in their places then please use proper grammar and spelling. ;)

[Nickclone]

I'm not ashamed to say that last year I wanted Daniels over Brennan, even after Daniels fell apart in preseason because Colt didn't do much better. I'm also not ashamed to admit that I don't know a lot about Grossman other than what I've heard and I would rather have Brennan as #2. I say at least give the guy a chance to prove himself, he seems to be down for the hard work.

[Ingtar]

good for him. I don't understand all of the negativity here. If he goes out and gets cut after camp, the coaches did not like him. No loss. If he does well and grows, he was a 6th round pick, so he costs us darn near nothing to keep around. I am just glad to see some of our players trying to build relationships.

[bulldog]

The eventual successor to McNabb with the Redskins is not on the roster.

Washington will draft a quarterback in either 2011 or 2012 with a bigger upside than Colt Brennan.

Brennan is still here because the team didn't have enough picks to acquire a young developmental qb for the WCO.

So, they are giving Brennan a shot in camp, and there's nothing wrong with that.

But understanding that he is 27 years old and has not been able to stay healthy the past 2 years despite very limited playing time in the exhibition season puts his odds at being a guy Shanahan looks to as being fairly remote going forward.

If another team drops a younger QB before the start of the season with better size/accuracy than Brennan I would not be surprised to see him go.

[Mahons21]

You 11 year olds nead to learn your place.

Quote of the year.

As far as the OP goes, I'm glad Colt is out there. To be honest I wish Rex was out there as well, nothing about this camp will make our players worse than they had previously been.

Though, Colt probably isn't the answer to the Redskins future.

[ArmchairRedskin]

I would say that you didn't care to read rest of the thread or else you would have seen my posts above with real discussions going on.

If you have no interest in a 3rd string QB why even bother to open a thread about a 3rd string QB?

Since I am only 11, I won't argue with an adult, but will point out that if you are going to put some eleven-year-olds in their places then please use proper grammar and spelling. ;)



I wanted to make a disparaging remark about the third string guy, that's why I opened the thread. I have that right you know.

You go on and show me where my grammar and spelling was bad, youngin'. Not that it's weak smack or anything. You'll learn that when you get older. In the meantime have a Snickers, cause it's gonna be a while.

[ArmchairRedskin]

By the way, and this goes for anybody, if you have a problem with people criticizing the third string Quarterback, then tell him to stop being the THIRD STRING QUARTERBACK. Good enough?

[Mahons21]

By the way, and this goes for anybody, if you have a problem with people criticizing the third string Quarterback, then tell him to stop being the THIRD STRING QUARTERBACK. Good enough?

While you're at it, pick on the dorky skinny kid too. It shows how cool you really are.

[HitStickTaylor21]

Colt is back baby! Put the league on watch, he's healthy, got his number back, his swag back, and he's ready to get it in!!

[ArmchairRedskin]

While you're at it, pick on the dorky skinny kid too. It shows how cool you really are.



Not sure if you're knowingly being funny or if it's unintentional, but I'll treat it as a straight statement. Also, sorry if I brought up any unpleasant memories for you, that wasn't my intention.

Sometimes the skinny dorky kid needs somebody to push his buttons for him to sack up and stop being the skinny dorky kid. In football it's survival of the fittest. Lets be honest, right now he's the third best player in a position that only permits one of them to be on the field at any one time. He's one cut away from serving me my next Coney Dog at Sonic.

Maybe he'll move up, maybe he won't, but for now he's gonna get picked on until he can earn people's respect. That opinion is as valid as any other on the matter, so stop chastising me on it.

[DeaconBlue]

That opinion is as valid as any other on the matter, so stop chastising me on it.

NO, wrong. You are most certianly as entitled to speak your opinion as anyone else. You are NOT however afforded ANY protection from being told that it STINKS. So sack up.

[RenegadeTK]

Good for Colt to get out there and put in work. Hopefully he can develop. McNabb isnt exactly Favre when it comes to finishing seasons.

[Mahons21]

Not sure if you're knowingly being funny or if it's unintentional, but I'll treat it as a straight statement.
It was sarcasm

Also, sorry if I brought up any unpleasant memories for you, that wasn't my intention.
You got me.


Sometimes the skinny dorky kid needs somebody to push his buttons for him to sack up and stop being the skinny dorky kid. In football it's survival of the fittest. Lets be honest, right now he's the third best player in a position that only permits one of them to be on the field at any one time. He's one cut away from serving me my next Coney Dog at Sonic.
So Colt needed to hear your poor opinion of him? That's why he's going to sack up and become a starting QB? Not because, it has most likely been his lifelong dream, but because some know it all fan speaks poorly of him.


Maybe he'll move up, maybe he won't, but for now he's gonna get picked on until he can earn people's respect. That opinion is as valid as any other on the matter, so stop chastising me on it.
Like another poster said, you're entitled to your opinion, but that doesn't mean people will agree with it, so sack up.

[zskins]

I wanted to make a disparaging remark about the third string guy, that's why I opened the thread. I have that right you know.

You go on and show me where my grammar and spelling was bad, youngin'. Not that it's weak smack or anything. You'll learn that when you get older. In the meantime have a Snickers, cause it's gonna be a while.

You go ahead and keep on eating your Snicker too while telling yourself that 'need' is spelled with one 'e'. :ols:

In case you missed my point: Was letting you know that your original remark was, well, not very thought provoking and really didn't add any substance to the discussion on hand.

You being older and all I thought would have had more insight then us youngin'. Guess I don't have much to look forward to when I get older. :doh:

[Chicken Fried]

I genuinely want Colt to be the starter after McNabb. He reminds me too much of Brett Favre in his style of play.

[Hitman21ST]

So, realistically, how much of a chance does he have to unseat Sexy Rexy? And if he doesn't, will he be back next year?

[Mahons21]

So, realistically, how much of a chance does he have to unseat Sexy Rexy? And if he doesn't, will he be back next year?

Really hard to tell at this point, he's had one incredible pre-season and one awful pre-season. If he doesn't cut it this year though, I doubt he'll be around the following season, I expect the FO will draft either a project QB or future starter in next years draft.

[Hitman21ST]

I expect the FO will draft either a project QB or future starter in next years draft.

I don't see them going after a future starter next year. Maybe the year after that, but next year I think they'll go for linebackers, maybe a safety, guards, centers, and possibly running backs. But then again, I should save that talk for around week 17...

[smiley4284]

While you're at it, pick on the dorky skinny kid too. It shows how cool you really are.

haha:laugh:

[aszumilo]

The difference being of course, Romo was starting by age 26

Colt is already 27

Theismann didn't start for us until he was 29. I don't think it is that big of a deal.

[TDColt]

What is hard to understand about getting tired of hearing how great a third string QB is? Seriously, it seems kind of obvious to me. If I kept saying to you that the janitor at NASA should be in charge of mission control because he is really smart, wouldn't that be obviously annoying even if the janitor has an IQ of 159? Get it?

It gets old.
Hey youngin, your analogy needs to be fined tuned and you're kinda exaggerating a little huh? Unless you're like Matt Damon in good will hunting :D But then again I can see Colt being like a Matt Damon in good will hunting! :drooley:

[rgibbs]

That being said, I have seen Steve Young and Colt Brennan is no Steve Young.

Hate to break it to you but neither is McNabb.

[veteranskinsfan]

That being said I have seen Rex Grossman play and Rex is no Sonny Jurgensen... and he never will be. I saw Colt play in college and the kid won the game in overtime. He never gives up until the clock ends the game. Why keep Rex around the way Zorn kept around the 36 year old backup last year?

[Redskins4ever]

Colt Brennan should make the roster. We all know that he looked like a sensation during the pre season as a rookie. It's two years later, and I expect him to look good this pre season. With a new system and Donovan McNabb onboard, the sky is the limit for Brennan.


Question: Although Grossman knows the system and has a bad pre season while at the same time Colt Brennan is sharp and wins the third string job, does anyone think that Shanahan will promote Colt Brennan to backup status behind McNabb?

[JSheets]

http://i975.photobucket.com/albums/ae238/Sheets_Trash/Picture1-2.png
D-Mac: Once you start down the path of Darth Rexy, forever will it dominate your destiny, consume you it will. Follow me and around the survivors a perimeter create.

Colt: I want to learn the ways of Shanny. I will be the most powerful QB ever. I promise you. I will even learn to stop Cult haters from dying.

[Mercuryrising]

You might want to check the story, like the part where CB15 forgot his shoes was in January, NOT THIS MONTH.

If you're going to comment, at least get the facts straight.



That may be the most absurd reply I have ever read to one of my posts. I never said it was this month. I simply stated that one of them showed up for a workout unprepared and the other was completely prepared, including extra equipment that he immediately offered up.
So you GET YOUR FACTS STRAIGHT, please.
Sorry you had a bad day and needed a source to vent on, but don't put words into my mouth and then rip into me about facts based on the words THAT YOU inserted.

One is a leader, the other is not. If I were fighting for my job, and that job involved me being a leader of men and gaining their respect, and made the kind of money CB does; I would have at least 3 pairs of everything, and I would double check before I went to a workout with the guy who is the leader.... It is very telling.

[DGREENHULK]

It seems like most Colt fans fall into 1 of 2 groups women or 14 year olds :)

[Mercuryrising]

It seems like most Colt fans fall into 1 of 2 groups women or 14 year olds :)

I noticed that too. The thrid: Women who act like 14-year olds when CB is involved..

[iMeast]

It is nice to hear that at least one of the back-up QBs wants to learn from a proven winner and bond with his teammates.

HTTR

[darklight1216]

Is there a more polarizing player on the entire team than Colt Brennan?

[MustangSteve]

Theismann didn't start for us until he was 29. I don't think it is that big of a deal.
Bravo!!! And Joe took his team the Super Bowl his 2nd and 3rd year in the league. To all fans or sceptics who think QB's or RB's are done at the age of 29 and up needs to use the search feature. Most players hit their prime after the age of 29' and even set team and NFL records.

[ArmchairRedskin]

You go ahead and keep on eating your Snicker too while telling yourself that 'need' is spelled with one 'e'. :ols:

In case you missed my point: Was letting you know that your original remark was, well, not very thought provoking and really didn't add any substance to the discussion on hand.

You being older and all I thought would have had more insight then us youngin'. Guess I don't have much to look forward to when I get older. :doh:



You're hanging on to a typo for smack? Really dude? Really? That's your way of getting back at me for not kneeling at the alter of Brennan?

You don't have an original point because it's well within my rights to make any comment I want. You have no right, on the other hand, to try and admonish me for my viewpoint. You've wasted plenty more space trying to attack me rather than keeping on topic than my little offhand comment ever took. Think about that for a second, skippy.

Then think about how you're in love with a 3rd string QB. How silly. Don't worry, though, much like you love Barney, your Colt obsession will also pass. You'll eventually grow out of it. That's what happens to 11 year olds when they mature.

[ArmchairRedskin]

NO, wrong. You are most certianly as entitled to speak your opinion as anyone else. You are NOT however afforded ANY protection from being told that it STINKS. So sack up.



You're confusing admonishing the post with admonishing the poster. Come back when you can tell the difference.

[MustangSteve]

Question: Although Grossman knows the system and has a bad pre season while at the same time Colt Brennan is sharp and wins the third string job, does anyone think that Shanahan will promote Colt Brennan to backup status behind McNabb?
The answer is YES! Mike Shanahan is all about competition, and who ever is playing better on the field or in practice will be on his team, and will have their chance to play when time comes. From what I seen from CB, how he is a gunslinger and leads the team down the field, I believe it won't take long for him to catch the eyes of the coaches.

So freaking what if he threw some INT's last preseason, even the greatest QB's to ever play did the same thing when starting out. Favre's 1st pass in this league was an INT returned for a TD, and against our Redskins in the 91 season.

Time and maturity fixes these things, and Colt has every skill and tool to be a dayum good QB in this league, and I hope he becomes that for us. Anyone who is against having a young franchise QB, isn't worth debating with. We have needed one for over 20 years now.

[ArmchairRedskin]

It was sarcasm

You got me.


So Colt needed to hear your poor opinion of him? That's why he's going to sack up and become a starting QB? Not because, it has most likely been his lifelong dream, but because some know it all fan speaks poorly of him.


Like another poster said, you're entitled to your opinion, but that doesn't mean people will agree with it, so sack up.




You've also confused the two. You can say my opinion is wrong all you want. You just cant attack me for having that opinion.

And yes, if Colt wanders onto ES after a long day of taking the reps of the third string QB and sees that I made fun of him for still being the 3rd string QB after all this time and it sparks him to do better, then I will take all the credit. If it happens I will gladly accept your adulations. More than likely we'll see him for a few more preseason games, never during the season, and his name won't be heard until next offseason when he either ends up on another team or he'll be rollerskating to my car with my Sonic Burger.

[Park City Skins]

:yawnee: Same old tired responses,(from both "sides"),different thread,(actually,this is the Redskins,so different QB's as well). Oh well. At least things get going here soon,so maybe there's light at the the end of the tunnel.


As for the OP,good to see the "younger guys" all psyched up to do something like this,including Brennan.

[Kindred]

You've also confused the two. You can say my opinion is wrong all you want. You just cant attack me for having that opinion.

And yes, if Colt wanders onto ES after a long day of taking the reps of the third string QB and sees that I made fun of him for still being the 3rd string QB after all this time and it sparks him to do better, then I will take all the credit. If it happens I will gladly accept your adulations. More than likely we'll see him for a few more preseason games, never during the season, and his name won't be heard until next offseason when he either ends up on another team or he'll be rollerskating to my car with my Sonic Burger.

Sometimes the politics of football determine if you get your chance or not. Even if colt lights it up in camp & preseason, do you think he'll get to start over dmac? HA. But you know what? I'm absolutely sure the Ram's fans all scorned Warner the 3rd string grocery bagger, the same way (possibly worse) until he got his chance and ended up taking them to the super bowl. Dont knock our depth for what it is - an insurance against the worst case scenario: If we had another body bag game and colt came in and pulled our ass out of the fire. Obviously, he's shown the coaches enough for them to keep him around over all the other QB's we've had. Could he be a future franchise QB? I havent seen enough to make that determination, and neither have you, and honestly, until he's seen real playing time, neither have our coaches.

You might as well be picking on our other backups or draft picks, because colt is doing everything he can to prepare himself for the worst case scenario (I dont see Grossman out in Arizona, hell colt was out there busting his ass BEFORE dmac joined the team), and that's all we can ask of him at this point - Be prepared.

[JSheets]

It seems like most Colt fans fall into 1 of 2 groups women or 14 year olds :)
The Cult can help you...Bring your A-game into the Cult (where this thread should have been moved to ---- PCS, where you at?)...and leave the hate behind :nono:

[Park City Skins]

The Cult can help you...Bring your A-game into the Cult (where this thread should have been moved to ---- PCS, where you at?)...and leave the hate behind :nono:
I'm right here in this thread,which stands alone for a variety of reasons and thus hasn't been merged. Keep working on your material,we,(mods),got the board. :)

[JSheets]

I'm right here in this thread,which stands alone for a variety of reasons and thus hasn't been merged. Keep working on your material,we,(mods),got the board. :)
Thanks for the explanation PCS. You da man. HTTR.

[skins island connection]

I would much rather prefer Colt to Grossman ANY DAY behind McNabb, or backing him up.
Hellweek could be the thing Colt needs to really dig his feet in; ya know,JC was spoon-fed for how many years, and never did anything, Colt gets a few snaps then sent to the back of the line? doesn't seem fair, but then again I'm not the coach either.
BUT; when Grossman signed on, I asked myself "wtf"? did Shanny not see his abilities to find open defenders? Sorry, but I am not buying into him being a part of the team, and think its a very questionable move, and IMO he's the caucasion version of JC; over-rated and not skilled enough...

[smiley4284]

Glad to see Colt down in the 100 degree weather proving the haters wrong one step at a time. Hi h8ters what about that work ethic?

[rick7423]

Is there a more polarizing player on the entire team than Colt Brennan?
Unfortunately, no. But the fan base made him this way.

I am all for having fans get excited about a player, and also having others criticize that player, but this is getting ridiculous.

This will all get resolved soon, please let it play out and STOP :beatdeadhorse:!

It is getting really bad :silly::silly::silly:

[Botched]

I have a feeling it's not gonna happen, but I hope Brennan can take over the #2 spot. Rex Grossman is fun to watch...but mostly when he's playing for the other team. I'd rather not see Rexy starting for us, ever.

Hey zskins, when are you going to fix the age in your profile? I think it's causing some confusion :ols:

[shemp nixon]

Sometimes the politics of football determine if you get your chance or not. Even if colt lights it up in camp & preseason, do you think he'll get to start over dmac? HA. But you know what? I'm absolutely sure the Ram's fans all scorned Warner the 3rd string grocery bagger, the same way (possibly worse) until he got his chance and ended up taking them to the super bowl. Dont knock our depth for what it is - an insurance against the worst case scenario: If we had another body bag game and colt came in and pulled our ass out of the fire. Obviously, he's shown the coaches enough for them to keep him around over all the other QB's we've had. Could he be a future franchise QB? I havent seen enough to make that determination, and neither have you, and honestly, until he's seen real playing time, neither have our coaches.

You might as well be picking on our other backups or draft picks, because colt is doing everything he can to prepare himself for the worst case scenario (I dont see Grossman out in Arizona, hell colt was out there busting his ass BEFORE dmac joined the team), and that's all we can ask of him at this point - Be prepared.

+1... The kid is working hard on his game, how is that a bad thing.

[zskins]

You're hanging on to a typo for smack? Really dude? Really? That's your way of getting back at me for not kneeling at the alter of Brennan?

:doh: Point was you were trying to put me into my place and yet you the adult who can't spell is going to teach me a thing a two. My point: You are not prefect and therefor have no right to put me in my place.




You don't have an original point because it's well within my rights to make any comment I want. You have no right, on the other hand, to try and admonish me for my viewpoint. You've wasted plenty more space trying to attack me rather than keeping on topic than my little offhand comment ever took. Think about that for a second, skippy.

I thought about it and you are still wrong.




Then think about how you're in love with a 3rd string QB. How silly. Don't worry, though, much like you love Barney, your Colt obsession will also pass. You'll eventually grow out of it. That's what happens to 11 year olds when they mature.

I am NOT in love with our 3rd string QB or the stupid purple dinosaur.

Maybe I am intrigued by what Colt did in college and want to see if he can translate that success into the pros. I don't even watch college football or follow it. So I am not bias maybe like you.

I am not too high on Rex because he has proven he sucks and is very inconsistent.

I am just dumbfounded by comments some fans make to ridicule a player because they don't like him for whatever reason. Why not just let that player prove to everyone what he can and can't do before passing a judgment on that player.

If Colt become the starting QB for the Skins in the near future and say even gets us a SB win. Would any fan hate to see that happen because they don't like Colt? I am not saying this will happen but what if it did. Would you be upset and cry yourself a river because Colt should have been serving you a burger on roller skates instead?

Why can't you have an open mind like us 11-years-olds. Is that really a hard thing to do at your age?

[illone]

This is good to hear because Colt needs to beat out Rex.

If he doesn't I think he will be cut.

:2cents:

[DGREENHULK]

For every Colt supporter that's keeps saying "give him a break" he got his break last year when Chase Daniel got sent to the PS after he out played Colt in every preseason game. Truth be known Colt should have been cut last year after those awful performances. And if anyone thinks he deserved to stay over Chase your crazy. He will again be fighting for his roster life this year. No way he beats out a vet that already knows the playbook and coaching staff.

[MassSkinsFan]

Glad to see Colt down in the 100 degree weather proving the haters wrong one step at a time. Hi h8ters what about that work ethic?

He must be breaking a real sweat making notes on a clipboard and handing DMc5 his towels in that 115 degree heat!!! :silly::evilg:

Seriously though I'm glad he's there. The more the merrier, and like a lot of people, I'm leery of Rex. I'd much rather see Colt step up and claim the back-up role.

[illone]

It's not like the heat will affect anything, that's an indoor facility.

;)

I might try to make my way over there and get some autographs. We'll see.

[ArmchairRedskin]

:doh: Point was you were trying to put me into my place and yet you the adult who can't spell is going to teach me a thing a two. My point: You are not prefect and therefor have no right to put me in my place.





I thought about it and you are still wrong.



I am NOT in love with our 3rd string QB or the stupid purple dinosaur.

Maybe I am intrigued by what Colt did in college and want to see if he can translate that success into the pros. I don't even watch college football or follow it. So I am not bias maybe like you.

I am not too high on Rex because he has proven he sucks and is very inconsistent.

I am just dumbfounded by comments some fans make to ridicule a player because they don't like him for whatever reason. Why not just let that player prove to everyone what he can and can't do before passing a judgment on that player.

If Colt become the starting QB for the Skins in the near future and say even gets us a SB win. Would any fan hate to see that happen because they don't like Colt? I am not saying this will happen but what if it did. Would you be upset and cry yourself a river because Colt should have been serving you a burger on roller skates instead?

Why can't you have an open mind like us 11-years-olds. Is that really a hard thing to do at your age?





You are missing the entire point of what I'm saying.

You told me I was spamming because I said "Colt is still on the team?"

If my entire post had consisted of me saying "Colt is awesome" there is ZERO chance you would have said anything about me spamming. Why? Because you agree with that. You only replied to me because you didn't like what I posted.

My whole deal about putting 11 year olds in their place is you were trying to invoke the name of a mod about a little post you didn't agree with while you didn't even understand that it wasn't spam.

Now, once you can wrap your little brain around that we can move on, because I already said all I wanted to say in my first post. That would have been it for me if not for people like you, who are too closed minded to allow others to have a differing viewpoint.

[Troy Fakeman]

...............and then?

[zskins]

You are missing the entire point of what I'm saying.

You told me I was spamming because I said "Colt is still on the team?"

If my entire post had consisted of me saying "Colt is awesome" there is ZERO chance you would have said anything about me spamming. Why? Because you agree with that. You only replied to me because you didn't like what I posted.

My whole deal about putting 11 year olds in their place is you were trying to invoke the name of a mod about a little post you didn't agree with while you didn't even understand that it wasn't spam.

Now, once you can wrap your little brain around that we can move on, because I already said all I wanted to say in my first post. That would have been it for me if not for people like you, who are too closed minded to allow others to have a differing viewpoint.

I think I will be the adult in this conversation and let you win. I hope this makes your day and you can gloat that you just told and 11 year old off.

By the way, you can keep on telling yourself that your little post added a lot value to the thread as it had deep analysis on the subject on hand with rational reasoning and open-mindedness, which thoroughly invoked the minds of ES members. :cool:

[Redskins Anonymous]

Hate to break it to you but neither is McNabb.


he's much closer than Colt Brennan. I'll take McNabb over Colt anyday. Thanks for proving my point that Brennan fans are totally delusional.

[Redskins Anonymous]

:doh: there is so much fail in your post that I don't even know where to begin. It is the fans like you who are delusional and think some here who wants to see what Colt can really do after being fixed and all only live in HI.

If one is picked #1 overall that means they are great QB...Russell *cough* Russell. :cool:

Where is the fail? He is a third string QB barely on the team. Am i wrong? Did we not go 4-12 last year? Am I wrong? Did Colt not rise to the top in training camp, the draft, combine, and overall in college by playing for Hawaii after being kicked out of Colorado for "misconduct"? Was I wrong there? Am I wrong in saying that the amount of support that this guy has is way too much for a guy one preseason INt away from the Arena League?

The only fail in my post is that I even have spent this much time and effort on a guy who will be playing for the Orlando predators.

[smiley4284]

Where is the fail? He is a third string QB barely on the team. Am i wrong? Did we not go 4-12 last year? Am I wrong? Did Colt not rise to the top in training camp, the draft, combine, and overall in college by playing for Hawaii after being kicked out of Colorado for "misconduct"? Was I wrong there? Am I wrong in saying that the amount of support that this guy has is way too much for a guy one preseason INt away from the Arena League?

The only fail in my post is that I even have spent this much time and effort on a guy who will be playing for the Orlando predators.

I think you spend so much time in this thread because your threaten by his awesomeness.

[Skinsfan4life83]

Point is we have seen nothing from this kid to know whether he is a future UPS worker or a future HOF'er. He had one good preseason and then got outplayed by Chase Daniel the next, so that in my mind doesn't bode well for Colt. Do I want him to succeed? Hell yeah, it would be nice to have a franchise QB that we drafted and groomed. Do I think he will? Chances are slim, I do not like Rex Grossman at all but unless Colt shows some great strides this year I don't see him being around much longer. There is just too much blind faith and hype for me, some people on this board seem to think he is the next Brett Farve, which is ludicrous to believe until he actually shows it on the field, which he has not done yet IMO. Good luck to him, I will be rooting for the guy in PS, he's gonna need all the luck he can get.

[Kindred]

Point is we have seen nothing from this kid to know whether he is a future UPS worker or a future HOF'er. He had one good preseason and then got outplayed by Chase Daniel the next, so that in my mind doesn't bode well for Colt. Do I want him to succeed? Hell yeah, it would be nice to have a franchise QB that we drafted and groomed. Do I think he will? Chances are slim, I do not like Rex Grossman at all but unless Colt shows some great strides this year I don't see him being around much longer. There is just too much blind faith and hype for me, some people on this board seem to think he is the next Brett Farve, which is ludicrous to believe until he actually shows it on the field, which he has not done yet IMO. Good luck to him, I will be rooting for the guy in PS, he's gonna need all the luck he can get.

How do you know he wasnt suffering from his injury? How do you know his 2nd year suckage wasnt a result of zorn messing with his natural mechanics? Our starting Oline last year was sad and pathetic, so where does that put the backup Oline that CB had to work with in the preseason? When Colt lit it up the first preseason everybody said "who cares? it's only preseason, you cant tell jack **** from a preseason game" but ALL OF A SUDDEN, when he sucks in a preseason, those same people changed their tune to "Look at how badly he sucked in a preseason game!!! Lets cut his ass". Hypocrisy at it's finest.

Not making excuses for the guy, I'm just saying WE DONT KNOW. And until we actually DO know, i'm going to root for the guy just like I'm going to root for ALL of our draft picks/rookies to be future NFL stars because thats our primary right as fans, to be eternally optimistic - about the next season, our next crop of rookie/drafted players, and our next coach. If people want to hate on ANY of our players for not getting drafted that high or if they've been out of the game for awhile, or if they simply havent had the chance to prove themselves yet, then more power to them, let them demean, prejudge, and hate in their ignorance.

[KokoMike]

Point is we have seen nothing from this kid to know whether he is a future UPS worker or a future HOF'er. He had one good preseason and then got outplayed by Chase Daniel the next, so that in my mind doesn't bode well for Colt. Do I want him to succeed? Hell yeah, it would be nice to have a franchise QB that we drafted and groomed. Do I think he will? Chances are slim, I do not like Rex Grossman at all but unless Colt shows some great strides this year I don't see him being around much longer. There is just too much blind faith and hype for me, some people on this board seem to think he is the next Brett Farve, which is ludicrous to believe until he actually shows it on the field, which he has not done yet IMO. Good luck to him, I will be rooting for the guy in PS, he's gonna need all the luck he can get.

I know you are a Skins Fan for Life, and so am I. I've been a season ticketholder for 33 years now, from poor teams to Super Bowl contenders/winners and back again.

I am going to address only one line in your comment. "There is just too much blind faith and hype for me." Every year, I do go into the season with great hopes and desire for players to excel, and for the team to win. Sometimes my faith in the Redskins has caused some of my friends to view it as blind faith. Kind of like your comments.

Having paid close attention to every Redskin for more than 33 years now, I have to applaud Colt Brennan for his understanding of the magic of the Washington Redskins. We've been missing that for too long now.

Since Donovan McNabb gave Colt Brennan his shoes to practice in on the first day Colt spent at Fischer Sports, I think we may be entering a new era of magic. Naysayers? Don't have much time nor interest in their negativity.

Also, as a blind faith fan, I can claim real responsibility for a victory against the Cowboys many years ago. My blind faith led me to wake up the end zone crowd when the Cowboys were down by four and on the Redskins 7 yard line or so, with first and ten, and a minute or so left in the game. Troy Aikman at QB. I have low endzone seats. When I turned to the exhausted and quiet fans, I was stunned at how low they were. I screamed at the top of my lungs for them to wake up. They did. I know that because I made eye contact with hundreds of them in just a few seconds and they immediately responded. We blew his mind and we won. Blind faith can deliver.

Hundreds of fans around me, many still sitting in those seats many years later, will attest to that. These fans know that blind faith can win.

Blind faith can win. We hope Colt brings it this year! We have won Super Bowls before with some of that same faith.

P.S. I have also seen Colt Brennan play live more than a dozen times. I have talked to him about the magic of the Redskins. He understands the magic that is the Washington Redskins. It is called the will to win.

He has it, and we should all support it. I also applaud Donovan McNabb and expect him to go to the Pro Bowl and Super Bowl this year.

[rick7423]

KokoMike, I am in 100% agreement with you. Thank goodness for some rationality and common sense on the board.

[rgibbs]

It's not like the heat will affect anything, that's an indoor facility.

;)




You might want to go back and read the story:

The group also will spend plenty of time on cardio by running steep hills in the desert heat until they finally take a break in the early afternoon.

After a rest, McNabb summons the players to an area high school field in the late afternoon, where they work on routes. They also will assemble for seven-on-seven drills, against other athletes trained by Fischer, including New York Jets cornerback Darrelle Revis.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/07/18/AR2010071801107.html

[rgibbs]

he's much closer than Colt Brennan. I'll take McNabb over Colt anyday. Thanks for proving my point that Brennan fans are totally delusional.

You're the one who stated that Colt Brennan is no Steve Young. I didn't disagree nor would anyone else with half a brain. All I said was, "Neither is McNabb." Don't get me wrong. I like McNabb. He's not just a good player, he's a great player, and I hope he takes us to the Super Bowl, but statistically, he's not a Steve Young, nor does he have the hardware on his fingers that Young has. So I'm not sure how I proved your point that I am delusional.

Having said that, it is interesting to compare the college careers of Brennan and Young, inasmuch as they both played in the WAC so the level of competition was similar - apples and apples. I could bore you with stats, Young threw 33 TDs his senior year, Colt threw 53 his junior year. Brennan exceeded Young in every other category. You can Wikipedia it for yourself. So what does this prove? Maybe just that June Jones throws the ball a lot more than Lavelle Edwards. Or maybe that Brennan has as much or even more potential as Young did at this stage of his career. Time will tell.

[Brett81]

"The first day he was here, he came in wearing sandals. He forgot his sneakers," Fischer said with a chuckle."

click for the rest (http://voices.washingtonpost.com/redskinsinsider/offseason-workouts/hope-you-caught-this-mornings.html#more)


So wait...the guy who wants to prove he's worthy of playing as a starting QB in the league and he still can't crack the top 2 on the QB depth chart...can't even remember to bring shoes to a training facility on day 1?

Geez Colt, it's been a few years bud...you're going to a training facility to improve yourself in football...not walking down Lewer's St at 2am on a thursday hoping to find a mahu looking to give you a good time. At least go down to Murphy's Irish Pub or Kelly O'Neals buddy and get a beer.

[mossomo]

Since Donovan McNabb gave Colt Brennan his shoes to practice in on the first day Colt spent at Fischer Sports, I think we may be entering a new era of magic.

Didn't Thrash once borrow Green's cleats and then beat him in the 40? In Darrell's shoes!...

A new era for sure. God bless KokoMike.

[rgibbs]

Geez Colt, it's been a few years bud...you're going to a training facility to improve yourself in football...not walking down Lewer's St at 2am on a thursday hoping to find a mahu looking to give you a good time.

I resent the insinuation. (Mods: Are baseless accusations of homosexuality permitted in this forum?)

[Late Night Roach]

Nice to know that CB is grasping the opportunity to work with starting players. Forgetting to pack the shoes is obviously the result of being excited about such an adventure, and in my opinion no reason to get the BVD's in a wedgie. All attempts to criticize the young man for every little thing have been made over and over for the past couple of years by many and have been duly noted, but really...If he wasn't worth keeping around he'd already be gone.

[JSheets]

So wait...the guy who wants to prove he's worthy of playing as a starting QB in the league and he still can't crack the top 2 on the QB depth chart...can't even remember to bring shoes to a training facility on day 1?

What is wrong with sandals like these? :silly:
http://i975.photobucket.com/albums/ae238/Sheets_Trash/Picture1-4.png

As for shoeless joe Brennan, maybe he likes it natural? It's called Barefoot League influence for you non Hawaiians. Google it. Not the clothing company (of which Colt has his own line), but the history. Games were played without shoes, pads, or headgear. Colt may have not grown up in the streets of Kalihi, but he has respect for and appreciation of plantation days football in the Aloha State.

[illone]

You might want to go back and read the story:


At least you quoted me with the ;) in there.

:D

[icbmayday]

I always was pulling for Colt he just seems to brittle

[smiley4284]

Theres not a Qb in the league that hasnt played without a surgery or nagging injury. Colt had those injuries since Hawaii. You think a team wouldnt take Drew Brees because he had major shoulder injury. Ken Griffey Jr. was riddled with injuries does that make him a bad player or teams wouldnt want him on their team. No! He is a hall of famer. Colt has yet to prove he is a hall of famer but getting rid of a player because of minor injuries is rediculous. Baseball injuries are mostly self inflicted injuries. If you want to minimize a QB's injury list. Get a line and running back that can BLOCK! for him.

[DexterSackMachine]

http://www.csnwashington.com/08/01/10/Redskins-Training-Camp-Timeline-8110/landing_v3.html?blockID=281629&feedID=6355


"9:22—Rex Grossman rifles one to Joey Galloway deep down the middle. Good throw and good focus by Galloway to make the grab in traffic."

"9:42—Never thought I’d say this, but Grossman is looking pretty good. It will be interesting to see how he will look in preseason games.. "

"9:45—Colt Brennan has a rough set. First he overthrows everyone, and Tryon gets and easy interception, and a couple of plays later he throws the ball to a vacant spot of grass."

"10:04—Brennan with another misfire, a deep pass to nobody in particular."

"10:59—Brennan does something positive, a nice pass to Mike Furrey, who makes a nice leaping grab at the sideline for about 30 yards."

[DexterSackMachine]

I see you used your crystal ball rather then seeing the logic that I gave you. :doh:


Thank you for posting your lack of knowledge of your favorite team. This clearly shows how much you keep up with your team.

;)

:drooley:

Could you have been more wrong?

[cphil006]

.... not any more!!!

[Redskins Anonymous]

You're the one who stated that Colt Brennan is no Steve Young. I didn't disagree nor would anyone else with half a brain. All I said was, "Neither is McNabb." Don't get me wrong. I like McNabb. He's not just a good player, he's a great player, and I hope he takes us to the Super Bowl, but statistically, he's not a Steve Young, nor does he have the hardware on his fingers that Young has. So I'm not sure how I proved your point that I am delusional.

Having said that, it is interesting to compare the college careers of Brennan and Young, inasmuch as they both played in the WAC so the level of competition was similar - apples and apples. I could bore you with stats, Young threw 33 TDs his senior year, Colt threw 53 his junior year. Brennan exceeded Young in every other category. You can Wikipedia it for yourself. So what does this prove? Maybe just that June Jones throws the ball a lot more than Lavelle Edwards. Or maybe that Brennan has as much or even more potential as Young did at this stage of his career. Time will tell.


First off, young has only one piece of hardware that he earned from SB XXIX. Second, Steve Young went to BYU because he was a descendant of Brigham Young; Colt Brennan went to Hawaii because he raped a chick - oh I am sorry, allegedly tried to rape a chick. Third, Young threw 232 TD's with 107 INT's in 169 games; McNabb has thrown 216 with 100 INT's in 148 games. I would say that their numbers are quite comparable. As opposed to bringing up irrelevant college stats, those are pro stats. You know, the stuff Colt will never have.

Fourth and finally, Colt being compared with Steve Young in any capacity is lunacy. It's been fun watching you morons come here and tell us how hateful and wrong we are. It's been fun hearing how the NFL scouts, the NFL coaches, the NFL GM's, and everybody with any knowledge of pro football is wrong about the attempted rapist with the bad throwing motion and may be conspiring against Colt because they are threatened by his dominance. I will miss Colt's fans; I will make sure to follow him in the Arena League.

[DGREENHULK]

Fourth and finally, Colt being compared with Steve Young in any capacity is lunacy. It's been fun watching you morons come here and tell us how hateful and wrong we are. It's been fun hearing how the NFL scouts, the NFL coaches, the NFL GM's, and everybody with any knowledge of pro football is wrong about the attempted rapist with the bad throwing motion and may be conspiring against Colt because they are threatened by his dominance. I will miss Colt's fans; I will make sure to follow him in the Arena League.

:rotflmao:This is pretty much how I've felt since the Cult developed. I have nothing against Colt the player (maybe the person if the allegations had any truth to them) but I think all the "hate" is directed at the "MORONS". Hey I get to use the :wish: because my wish has come true. And I was just getting to make the leap to the Arena League but you beat me to it...nice.

[Redskins Anonymous]

:rotflmao:This is pretty much how I've felt since the Cult developed. I have nothing against Colt the player (maybe the person if the allegations had any truth to them) but I think all the "hate" is directed at the "MORONS". Hey I get to use the :wish: because my wish has come true. And I was just getting to make the leap to the Arena League but you beat me to it...nice.


It's kind of funny because if I step outside of my feelings about the COC, I don't really have a problem with the guy. I only brought up Colorado because they constantly compare him to Young at BYU. The only reason Young played in that conference is his family. Whereas Colt was kicked out of Colorado for whatever reason...

If it wasn't for the COC, most of us would have been as supportive to a third string QB as you can be. But constantly listening to this stuff and being called a jerk for saying that it may be a bit premature to bust out the Steve Young and Kurt Warner comparisons has turned me into a Colt hater.

Colt, good luck doing whatever you do. I would like to apologize for hating you in any way because of the thoughts, words, and deeds of your koolaid drinking fans. It's funny that of all the things that have bothered me about the Colt Brennan saga here, Colt himself has rarely if ever been the reason for my dismay. It has always been the cult.