Samuels on Trent

[haraldjun]

Did anyone see the video on Redskins.com where Chris Samuels speaks about Trent Williams... did you notice how he shakes his head, meaning "no/not good" when he tried to sell us Trent as a good tackle and that he doesn´t see any problems... now I am getting a little bit scared and the trade for Jammal Brown makes even more sense....

[terpskins10]

1) I think you're reading too much into this.

2) Do you think Chris would give that obvious of an assessment about a player he is coaching, ripe for fans on message boards to post about?

*edit* He also says he's not worried about Trent and thinks he's outstanding. Maybe he's shaking his head in response to the question, maybe saying "No, I'm not worried" or "No, I don't think he'll struggle"?

[Santana_Fan]

I watched the interview, it looked fine to me.

[terpskins10]

I watched the interview, it looked fine to me.

Agreed. Not sure what you're seeing, OP.

[Mark The Homer]

A link would be nice

[terpskins10]

A link would be nice

www.redskins.com

:pfft:

[Spartacus87]

Oh how I hate threads like this.

I have no idea what you're supposedly seeing from that video to make you worried about Williams. Samuels just said a lot of generic positive coach speak, and he happened to be moving his head around while talking.

[jnhay]

This is just about the worst assessment of a person's body language I've ever heard.

[ConnSKINS26]

Thread fail.

[Reic]

I nominate the original post for Attack of the Show's "Epic Fail" segment this afternoon.

[Adam291]

ES: where you can find fans of the Redskins as well as body language analysis.

[Braxford]

OP is reading way to much into this.

[DallasSucks19922010]

The OP thinks hes the dude from Lie To Me.

[jnhay]

The OP thinks hes the dude from Lie To Me.

:ols::hysterical::rotflmao:

That was good.

[Santana_89]

Did anyone see the video on Redskins.com where Chris Samuels speaks about Trent Williams... did you notice how he shakes his head, meaning "no/not good" when he tried to sell us Trent as a good tackle and that he doesn´t see any problems... now I am getting a little bit scared and the trade for Jammal Brown makes even more sense....


:ols::ols::ols: I can laugh because training camp is only 2 days away and threads like this should cease.

[THEREALTOR1]

What am I thinking right now? :drooley:

[RichmondRedskin88]

http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/nn244/cptgrif/ThreadFail.jpg

[acuratl1984]

someone has been watching too much "Lie To Me"

[jflow78]

From an ex-military intelligence perspective, the guys body language matches his words. He's not shaking his head "no" he's looking to his right (from where his head is when he's speaking, which for him at that moment is considered his straight perspective), when he looks to his right (and down) he's mostly thinking about the way he feels, and his language matches that assessment, "I'm not worried, I think, I feel". Those are, for the most part, emotional words (even I think because it's a prediction based on his feeling from what he's seen).

From the motion of the eyes, he's being honest about his answer to the question and his words back that up (eye movement shows he's touching on emotions and his words are emotionally related).

Also, in Shanahan's interview he is looking up and to his left, or level and to the left, which is a sign that he's talking about what he's seen (memories) and his language matches it. Also, you'll notice, if you watch the video again, that when he starts to run out of stuff to elaborate on (or runs out of stuff he's willing to elaborate on) his eyes turn level and to his right, which means he's trying to think of something to say that sounds good.

That's my best effort at breaking things down to an interogation type process, which is what interviews are, minus all the scary stuff.

This all tells me that Shanahan and Samuels both believe Trent is going to be the real deal.

[SkinsTerps26]

training camp and preseason cannot get here soon enough

[heliKCx17]

A link would be nice

Seriously do you ever have anything worthwhile and non critical or cynical to contribute? I've been here a while and never witnessed much.

[TheShredSkinz]

http://i13.tinypic.com/7y3bvuv.gif
now that's using your head.

[The Batman]

From an ex-military intelligence perspective...
This all tells me that Shanahan and Samuels both believe Trent is going to be the real deal.

jfl0wned. Thread over. This is all you need to know.

[RichmondRedskin88]

Seriously do you ever have anything worthwhile and non critical or cynical to contribute? I've been here a while and never witnessed much.

oh boy here we go :threadjacked::drama::munchout:

[grego]

Seriously do you ever have anything worthwhile and non critical or cynical to contribute? I've been here a while and never witnessed much.

MTH is a mod and is telling the OP that, most likely per forum rules, he should provide a link for what he's referring to. if not for the sake of rules, for the sake of a sane thread. he gave a redskins.com link and i still havent found it.

still, its probably not good to piss of the mods. and why the heck would you pick a fight with MTH- the most easy going of them all?

[RichmondRedskin88]

I refuse to let this thread get killed by a jacker so

http://i.cdn.turner.com/sivault/swimsuit/image/2008/08_ana-beatriz-barros_01.jpg

[Capt. Kaos]

Seriously do you ever have anything worthwhile and non critical or cynical to contribute? I've been here a while and never witnessed much.



Seriously?!?

How about THIS (http://extremeskins.com/showthread.php?t=284017)??

Is that not critical or cynical enough for you?!?

If that doesnt do it for you I'd be happy to put together some of MTH's greatest hits and then I'll introduce you to TK :ols:

[HailRiggoRanger]

Take it for what its worth -- a friend of mine talked to a prominent Redskin player, and the Redskin player said he wouldn't be surprised if Artis Hicks starts over Williams. Would assume it means Hicks as RT and Brown as LT.

But, I'm not believing anything until I see a preseason game or two.

[NewCliche21]

From an ex-military intelligence perspective, the guys body language matches his words. He's not shaking his head "no" he's looking to his right (from where his head is when he's speaking, which for him at that moment is considered his straight perspective), when he looks to his right (and down) he's mostly thinking about the way he feels, and his language matches that assessment, "I'm not worried, I think, I feel". Those are, for the most part, emotional words (even I think because it's a prediction based on his feeling from what he's seen).

From the motion of the eyes, he's being honest about his answer to the question and his words back that up (eye movement shows he's touching on emotions and his words are emotionally related).

Also, in Shanahan's interview he is looking up and to his left, or level and to the left, which is a sign that he's talking about what he's seen (memories) and his language matches it. Also, you'll notice, if you watch the video again, that when he starts to run out of stuff to elaborate on (or runs out of stuff he's willing to elaborate on) his eyes turn level and to his right, which means he's trying to think of something to say that sounds good.

That's my best effort at breaking things down to an interogation type process, which is what interviews are, minus all the scary stuff.

This all tells me that Shanahan and Samuels both believe Trent is going to be the real deal.

I'm just impressed with this assessment. Nothing to add to the thread, but wow, nice.

[Destino]

Unless you're playing poker reading body language just complicates your life and offers nothing of reliable value.

[Arsenic]

http://www.secondose.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/11/claudio-pinto.jpg

[gkekoa]

He watches the show "Lie to Me." Great show by the way. It says if a person is shaking their head no and they are saying yes, their mouth is lying.

[BurgundyBlog]

http://a.imageshack.us/img63/8880/photobd.jpg

[RichmondRedskin88]

ok its hopeless

http://www.city-data.com/forum/attachments/oklahoma/23753d1216512869-official-oklahoma-forum-chattin-thread-rip-thread.jpg

[jflow78]

I'm just impressed with this assessment. Nothing to add to the thread, but wow, nice.

Ha, and they said none of that stuff would come in handy outside of the service! :D

[ddub52]

Samuels on Trent?

That cant be pretty

[Park City Skins]

Seriously do you ever have anything worthwhile and non critical or cynical to contribute? I've been here a while and never witnessed much.

That's obviously not saying a whole lot. Plus:


MTH is a mod and is telling the OP that, most likely per forum rules, he should provide a link for what he's referring to. if not for the sake of rules, for the sake of a sane thread. he gave a redskins.com link and i still havent found it.

still, its probably not good to piss of the mods. and why the heck would you pick a fight with MTH- the most easy going of them all?

Bingo. And the last sentence says it all. I'd recommend a switch to decaf and paying closer attention so you're not so far off base with an assessment next time.


Samuels on Trent?

That cant be pretty



:ols: Wrong,but damned funny.







:ols::ols::ols: Thank God training camp is 2 days away and threads like these should cease.

You're kidding right? This is ES ya know? The place where,as soon as the first player pulls up with an ingrown toenail, part of the board starts looking for free agent options. Another part wants to cut the entire training staff and their families. And yet another part overloads google search with "ingrown toenail" in order to try to give a good prognosis. Won't even mention the part that wants to cut the player and do so with an "I told ya so." :silly:

[bedlamVR]

Who has an ingrown toenail .. I have identified these players who we know have toes...and here is a list of free agents or people we could trade the house for... thank god you let us know PCS :silly:

[Santana_89]

You're kidding right? This is ES ya know? The place where,as soon as the first player pulls up with an ingrown toenail, part of the board starts looking for free agent options. Another part wants to cut the entire training staff and their families. And yet another part overloads google search with "ingrown toenail" in order to try to give a good prognosis. Won't even mention the part that wants to cut the player and do so with an "I told ya so." :silly:

This is true :ols: Wouldn't you prefer to see a thread about Player X's ingrown toenail versus someone saying we're doomed .Because Chris Samuels' body language seems to suggest, (only his mind) that he thinks Trent Williams will struggle before he's even taken a single NFL snap?

[MartinC]

Unless you're playing poker reading body language just complicates your life and offers nothing of reliable value.

It does not help my poker much either.

[honejc]

:bunny:

trent better be damn good, we better not have wasted a 4th pick on him..

we shuda taken berry :(



hahaha i jest... kinda

[MartinC]

:bunny:

trent better be damn good, we better not have wasted a 4th pick on him..

we shuda taken berry :(



hahaha i jest... kinda

There are no guarantees in the draft at any spot but I feel a lot better with a possible very good/Pro Bowl LT over a potential All Pro FS. We HAD to address the tackle position and inject some youth in our line as well. Anything else would have been like painting the Bridge on the Titanic as it was sinking.

[honejc]

yupo you are right, our line is much better now, finally. i was just reminiscing about the leaks that we would go for berry haha

[Maximus71]

:bunny:

trent better be damn good, we better not have wasted a 4th pick on him..

we shuda taken berry :(



hahaha i jest... kinda

Its the ideas like this that has brought years of shame to this franchise, going Safety when we need OL help. Vinny, is this you?

[icbmayday]

I think you are definitely reading into nothing

[SkinsCrushCowboys]

Seriously I've been here a while and never witnessed much.


since May 2009.....:drooley:

[kuraitengai]

The OP thinks hes the dude from Lie To Me.
haha. i was gonna do that. then i was gonna go watch the video and give a proper analysis to refute the OP. since ive actually studied that sort of thing.

[Park City Skins]

This is true :ols: Wouldn't you prefer to see a thread about Player X's ingrown toenail versus someone saying we're doomed .Because Chris Samuels' body language seems to suggest, (only his mind) that he thinks Trent Williams will struggle before he's even taken a single NFL snap?
It all kind of reads the same to me these days. Maybe I'm becoming to desensitized to a lot of this kind of stuff :silly:

[36HAMMER]

with the past luck of this franchise and draft picks I assume that he is afraid that Trent is a wash out.But with Samuels and Brown as well as the oline coach he would have to be bad not to make it.The question is how long will the growing period be and how painful?

[Park City Skins]

This is true :ols: Wouldn't you prefer to see a thread about Player X's ingrown toenail versus someone saying we're doomed .Because Chris Samuels' body language seems to suggest, (only his mind) that he thinks Trent Williams will struggle before he's even taken a single NFL snap?


See? And they're not even waiting for camp to start. :silly:

http://www.extremeskins.com/showthread.php?t=327515

[DexterSackMachine]

OH NO! Our first round pick is a bust!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

As Al Gore once said: "The debate is over"

[Bang]

I refuse to let this thread get killed by a jacker so

http://i.cdn.turner.com/sivault/swimsuit/image/2008/08_ana-beatriz-barros_01.jpg
Oh right,, like this picture won't encourage guys to jack it..







oh wait.. that isn't what you meant,, right?

Damn!

~Bang

[B&G808]

Oh right,, like this picture won't encourage guys to jack it..







oh wait.. that isn't what you meant,, right?

Damn!

~Bang
You tell um Bang!:beavisnbutthead:

[Blue Collar Skins]

I saw a guy picking his nose....I think he's trying to tell us we will have more picks this year.

[aarobinson]

this is like when Fox News rolls out a "body language expert" to draw whatever silly conclusion fits the story they're pushing