Per ESPN: Haynesworth FAILS condition Test

[mjpanzer]

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/trainingcamp10/news/story?id=5420094

[MTechnik]

What a waste of air and water.

Walking through the second half of the conditioning test?

You know what, let him walk out on the field for the first real game after not being in shape at all, and get himself seriously injured. Let that break his chances of ever being in the HoF or ever creating a positive lasting legacy.

Yes, I am rooting for an injury. If that's how seriously he takes his job, his body, and the commitment he made, let's see it manifested in a physical form.

He isn't quite Mike Vick kinda sub-human, but he's working on it.

[drtdrums]

You have got to be kidding me.

[Aston]

Let's be positive. He did KILL that first part ....

[Santana_Fan]

Maybe they should have laid a steak at the ending line. All seriousness, I hope it can all come together and work out for the best.

[BigMike21]

What a waste of air and water.

Walking through the second half of the conditioning test?

You know what, let him walk out on the field for the first real game after not being in shape at all, and get himself seriously injured. Let that break his chances of ever being in the HoF or ever creating a positive lasting legacy.

Yes, I am rooting for an injury. If that's how seriously he takes his job, his body, and the commitment he made, let's see it manifested in a physical form.

He isn't quite Mike Vick kinda sub-human, but he's working on it.

You are ridiculous, rooting for an injury to a Redskins player. Turn in the fan card homie, it';s ok to be pissed but I will never wished a player on the Skins would get injured.

[SkinsCrushCowboys]

don't know the entire story, but IF he indeed "walked" through the second part of the test, he is what we thought he was...an ass. The comments from Shanny of "we'll see" now is sounding very possible......at the end of the day he will never change...unfortunately for the team if true is bad news and leaves a huge void in the D.

[mjpanzer]

This is terrible news.

[Sawyer5500]

I hope he blows out his knee, the fat piece of ****.

The fact that he didnt even try to pass the 2nd part of the test pisses me off beyond belief.

[swisha]

You are ridiculous, rooting for an injury to a Redskins player. Turn in the fan card homie, it';s ok to be pissed but I will never wished a player on the Skins would get injured.

And rooting for a player on another team to get injured is okay?

[tshile]

I'll say it again:

Noone from the redskins organization has actually graded albert. These 'reports' are coming 3rd, 4th, and 5th party based on what people are saying they saw or heard. No grade has been issued, therefore it's impossiblef or him to have passed or failed yet.

Some people said he looked great, other are saying they heard he walked.

Bottom line is he hasn't passed or failed yet.

[HRNY4ZRNY]

Listen up ALBERT!

You betta get ur $#@! straight!

[stoney26]

They are just citing the foxsports report. Step away from the ledge.

[BigMike21]

And rooting for a player on another team to get injured is okay?

No not really but I wouldn't say anything if someone else did because I know there are a ton of stupid people out there. But wishing it on your own player, like the other guy in this thread who wants his knee blown out makes you look like a bad fan in my eyes is all.

[Zzj]

I mean... this might be good. Maybe failing the test will humble (a little bit) this guy. That, and running with the second team defense could be what he needs to build up the motivation to play for the Skins this year. From what I've heard, Haynesworth has accepted that he will play in DC this season, but perhaps all this training camp drama will give him the incentive to play WELL, you know, just to prove Shanahan wrong.

[HailSkinz1]

Don't get injured! We need to keep his trade value as high as possible. We need to get rid of him to finally sever the ties to the "old" way this team did business under Snyder and Cerrato.

Hail,

H

[Enter Apotheosis]

Again, to the people jumping to conclusions and treating the ESPN version as gospel... we have no official confirmation of what happened with the test and there are multiple conflicting reports of the outcome. Just chill out.

[Fletch_Lives59]

hahahahahaha, I'd make him pass out water during practice today...

[StillUnknown]

don't know the entire story, but IF he indeed "walked" through the second part of the test, he is what we thought he was...an ass. The comments from Shanny of "we'll see" now is sounding very possible......at the end of the day he will never change...

glazer said they had him doing 12 50yd sprints

any 300+lb lineman would've been walking during the 2nd half of that drill as well

[skins2victory]

Com on big Al, that is horrible news!! Get it together man

[Ax]

I hope he blows out his knee, the fat piece of ****.

The fact that he didnt even try to pass the 2nd part of the test pisses me off beyond belief.
Congratulations!

You are currently leading Dimwit Nation's "Biggest Dimwit" contest.

[SittingBull]

I wonder if they even told him he'd have to run a 2nd shuttle run? If they tell me ok here's your conditioning test a 300 yard shuttle run then when I'm' done their like oh yea you have to run a SECOND shuttle one I'd be pretty angry at how deceptive they are.

[mjpanzer]

I'll say it again:

Noone from the redskins organization has actually graded albert. These 'reports' are coming 3rd, 4th, and 5th party based on what people are saying they saw or heard. No grade has been issued, therefore it's impossiblef or him to have passed or failed yet.

Some people said he looked great, other are saying they heard he walked.

Bottom line is he hasn't passed or failed yet.

I generally agree with this statement. That being said, ESPN is usually VERY good about not publishing articles until they are absolutely verified. Furthermore, the fact that the story is on the front page of ESPN.com indicates that they feel very comfortable publishing the story. Finally, ESPN's go to NFL guy is Adam Schefter who happens to be BFF with Shanahan.

Food for thought.

[mjpanzer]

Again, to the people jumping to conclusions and treating the ESPN version as gospel... we have no official confirmation of what happened with the test and there are multiple conflicting reports of the outcome. Just chill out.

see my last comment.

[SkinsCrushCowboys]

glazer said they had him doing 12 50yd sprints

any 300+lb lineman would've been walking during the 2nd half of that drill as well


he is not ANY 300 (or 360) pound lineman, he needs to do it better than anyone else, just like his check is bigger than anyone else. If you expect me to have an ounce of sympathy for this guy....don't hold your breath. Maybe if Fat Albert could do some sprints he would not be laying on the ground sucking wind and getting carted off the field in the third quarter.

[Oldskool]

Wow this thread is a joke.

[bikie]

he is who we thought he was!!!!

[BigMike21]

Congratulations!

You are currently leading Dimwit Nation's "Biggest Dimwit" contest.


I agree!

[DGREENHULK]

Haynesworth is like one of those FAT girls in High School that instead of running the mile in gym class they take the F and walk the track. Fatty.

[StillUnknown]

he is not ANY 300 (or 360) pound lineman, he needs to do it better than anyone else, just like his check is bigger than anyone else. If you expect me to have an ounce of sympathy for this guy....don't hold your breath. Maybe if Fat Albert could do some sprints he would not be laying on the ground sucking wind and getting carted off the field in the third quarter.

i have no sympathy for him either (hell i still would prefer he not be here at all)

i'm just saying if the 12 50yd sprints are true, i'm not surprised he failed the test

[Captain_Sap's Skins]

"...hopefully he'll fit into our system and do the things we want him to do. Because, if he does, he can be an excellent football player for us. If not, we're going to be very good anyhow."

I love coach's attitude...it doesn't matter if he's here or not, we're gonna tear **** up!!!

[Darrell Green Fan]

I wonder if they even told him he'd have to run a 2nd shuttle run? If they tell me ok here's your conditioning test a 300 yard shuttle run then when I'm' done their like oh yea you have to run a SECOND shuttle one I'd be pretty angry at how deceptive they are.

And the speculation train is running wild. Seriously where did this theory come from?

[1972FAN]

ESPN, is hoping he fails to have constant negative news. I'll wait till I here the whole story. "Citing unknown sources" These guys will take anything and say its true.

[tshile]

I generally agree with this statement. That being said, ESPN is usually VERY good about not publishing articles until they are absolutely verified. Furthermore, the fact that the story is on the front page of ESPN.com indicates that they feel very comfortable publishing the story. Finally, ESPN's go to NFL guy is Adam Schefter who happens to be BFF with Shanahan.

Food for thought.

But shefter didn't write this
Matt Mosely did.

Who I personally think is an idiot, but thats besides the point. The point is Shefter didn't write this, the 'ESPN Blogger' for the NFC East did.

He's a blogger, not a journalist. His writing carries as much weight as the twitter accounts.

[1972FAN]

ESPN, is hoping he fails to have constant negative news. I'll wait till I here the whole story. "Citing unknown sources" These guys will take anything and say its true.

[mossomo]

And rooting for a player on another team to get injured is okay?

Lavar ending Aikman's career makes me smile. :D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BynBZNiE9EA

[JustAfan47]

well has this man ever been in great condition his whole career? I mean even in TN he couldn't play every down. We saw it here too. If his conditioning is getting better then thats all that really should matter.

[bird_1972]

Don't get injured! We need to keep his trade value as high as possible.

Failing a conditioning test is almost as bad considering the circumstances, don't you think?

[tshile]

Well the real question is what do you consider 'great condition' for a person who weighs 350 lbs?

[GoSkins561]

glazer said they had him doing 12 50yd sprints

any 300+lb lineman would've been walking during the 2nd half of that drill as well

Isn't that less than half a mile?

:doh:

[pjfootballer]

12 50 yards sprints? 6 football fields. That's alot. I work out and I doubt I could do that. I think Terrence Cody, the blubber boy for the Ravens, had to only do 3 or 4 25 yard sprints.

[Painkiller]

Well, until we hear it from the team, I'm not going to say anything other than if he DID fail, what happened to this personal trainer of his knowing what was best for him?

I guess the entire Redskins coaching staff doesn't understand what it takes for a defensive lineman to be successful.

Their test was too hard.

[1972FAN]

As long as he can get after the QB and tackle I'm happy.

[LightningBuggs]

:laugh:

This cracks me up on so many levels.

[JustAfan47]

Well the real question is what do you consider 'great condition' for a person who weighs 350 lbs?

Thats what I'm sayin....

[Timmy Smith]

This article sounds way too sketchy to be true, but just for kicks, I'll assume it's true. If that's the case, I bet the 'Skins are intentionally messing with Haynesworth, and gave him an impossible conditioning test just to light a fire under him and haze him a little. Go Shanny...

[skins2victory]

As long as he can get after the QB and tackle I'm happy.

I agree, I dont care about his long distance running. I just want to watch him smash Romo's face into the turff!!

[BornToHail]

If he failed, what does that mean about his contract? Can the Redskins recoup $ if they cut him due to failing the test?

[polywog999]

Lavar ending Aikman's career makes me smile. :D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BynBZNiE9EA
That's really sick. It's just a game! Troy Aikman is a real person.

[Simmsm88]

Mosley is always jumping on chances to portray the Redskins negatively.

If the distance of those sprints and renditions of them are as much as was mentioned earlier then of course Haynesworth would fail that. For man to do that would be amazing.

[Zguy28]

You know what, let him walk out on the field for the first real game after not being in shape at all, and get himself seriously injured. Let that break his chances of ever being in the HoF or ever creating a positive lasting legacy.
Hall of Fame? Really? Stomping another players face when he is helmetless will pretty much kill your chances of getting into Canton.

[Zguy28]

That's really sick. It's just a game! Troy Aikman is a real person.Yeah, but Lavar gave us a premier broadcaster. Aikman is top notch as a broadcaster and analyst. Glass full I guess.

[Maximus71]

That's really sick. It's just a game! Troy Aikman is a real person.

I am not saying I agree with what the other poster said but you are right, its just a game but its also part of the game. When they signed that contract they knew all the bad things that could happen to them and their bodies. We all love big hits, I mean ESPN has a segment just for big hits. Its part of the game and Aikman was already dealth with few blows to the head before Lavar put an end to his career.

[1972FAN]

I agree, I dont care about his long distance running. I just want to watch him smash Romo's face into the turff!!

Amen brother!

[1972FAN]

Yeah its all about ratings, negative sells, and they hope that the Haynesworth wagon provides more fuel for the fire. dirtbags

From HOGHEAVEN: Redskins Insider's Jason Reid hears that Big Al passed the first part of the test ("killed it"). FOX Sports Jay Glazer reports Haynesworth failed the second part. News accounts don't say whether that was a near miss or an epic fail. Nobody has explained exactly what those tests are, or who else passed or failed them.

Lets get a grip. Head coach Mike Shanahan already decided that Haynesworth would line up with the second team defense.

[skins2victory]

Just saw it on ESPN news on TV, Al faild and the team is not happy!!! Com on man!!!

[skins2victory]

Its on ESPN right now!!

[skins2victory]

John Clayton was the reporter, man that sucks!!

[skinswillwin06]

Reid now says he failed it as well.

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/redskinsinsider/albert-haynesworth/albert-haynesworth-fails-to-co.html

[DGREENHULK]

To be fair to AH he only needs to be in shape for the 10 yards on either side of the ball...so we really shouldn't make too much of this in a football sense but it does speak to his work ethic.

[SWFLSkins]

And rooting for a player on another team to get injured is okay?

Where did the poster say this?

[Santana_89]

Just saw on NFL Network's ticker as BREAKING NEWS JLC says Haynesworth did NOT A fully pass his conditioning test.

[Veretax]

So which part is the first part? Is that where they sit him down to test hand and eye reaction times with a game of Wack a Mole? :D I mean, can anyone shed light onto what goes into these "conditioning tests" typically?


12 50 yards sprints? 6 football fields. That's alot. I work out and I doubt I could do that. I think Terrence Cody, the blubber boy for the Ravens, had to only do 3 or 4 25 yard sprints.

That's interesting, and sad. 50 Yards is about 45.72 meters, times 12 is 600 yards I believe so that's 548.64 meterrs, I mean its not even two laps around an 800 meter track. My question then is how much recovery time did he have between sprints, how many seconds? 10, 15, 30? 45? Shoot, I remember our hardest work out we ever did in Cross Country 28 400 hundreds at a good race pace with only 30 seconds of recovery time in between, that was when I was in the best shape I had ever been in my life. Granted AH is a 300 lb guy and I was probably closer to 130 at the time (half his weight :D) So I'm not sure how these straight line tests actually compare for footballers.


I mean absent context, how long he ran them in, what his average was etc. After the first few is when it would get tough I think.

[Horatio]

Sing along now:

Hey, hey, hey!
Here's Fat Albert
And I'm gonna sing a song for you
And this is gonna show you
A thing or two
You'll have some fun now
With me and the gang
Learning from each other
While we do our ???
Na, na, na
Gonna have a good time
Na, na, na
Gonna have a good time
Hey, hey, hey!

Hey, hey, hey!

Na, na, na
Gonna have a good time
Hey, hey, hey!
Na, na, na
Gonna have a good time
Hey, hey, hey!

[Spartacus87]

Hall of Fame? Really? Stomping another players face when he is helmetless will pretty much kill your chances of getting into Canton.
Michael Irvin stabbed a teammate in the neck for taking too long getting his haircut.

There are plenty of sketchy characters in the HoF.

[GoSkins561]

Time for fat camp Albert.

[MichaelM]

I don't know what kind of shape the guy is in as that isn't my job, but does anyone seriously think Shanahan would give him a fitness test he could pass after what has happened this offseason? I expect Shanahan to make this the first example of who is in charge and no matter how hard Haynesworth says he has worked, it is being made as an example that it isn't good enough and you should have been working with your team.

[Mad Mike]

Why am I not surprised? Sounds like his play last year when he would go out and dominate the line for one or two plays before collapsing on the field gasping for breath. :doh:

[Santana_89]

JLC is on LIVE on NFL Network reporting it now:mad:

[MTechnik]

You are ridiculous, rooting for an injury to a Redskins player. Turn in the fan card homie, it';s ok to be pissed but I will never wished a player on the Skins would get injured.

I'm not rooting for a Redskin to get hurt. If he were a Redskin, he would have been here with the rest of the team in the off season.

For the record, I don't consider Al a Redskin. I consider Al a worthless mouthbreather that happens to cash checks from the Redskins because they honor their side of the contract.

I doubt that London Fletcher considers Al a part of the team, or would take a bullet for him.

Being a professional athlete, you show up in shape, because you realize that being in shape and aware while on the football field is the best way to prevent injury. He's asking for it himself.

[erock353]

ryanohalloran

Haynesworth eligible to be put on physically unable to perform list until he has a practice in pads. #Redskins.


Just crazy

[MTechnik]

Hall of Fame? Really? Stomping another players face when he is helmetless will pretty much kill your chances of getting into Canton.

Beside the post pointing out Michael Irvin by Spartacus...

Marshall Faulk last night was talking about Albert on NFL Total Access, apparently having talked to Al, and taking Al's side. He said that Al is concerned about his legacy - that if he moves to NT, later when they are evaluating the HoF criteria, his stats will be lower than if he'd been allowed to continue to QB hunt, and penetrate the LoS for tackles for a loss.

Well, if he continues to act like this, he won't have any of that legacy to worry about.

[Gracelander]

http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c202/Gracelander/fatal.jpg

[tml6157]

ryanohalloran

Haynesworth eligible to be put on physically unable to perform list until he has a practice in pads. #Redskins.


Just crazy

The Ravens just put Terrance Cody on the PUP list for a grand total of about 12 hours before they removed him. Who gives a **** how fast Al can run 12 50-yard sprints? When he plays a position that is based on utilizing his speed then ill worry.

[Dr Drunkenstein]

The Ravens just put Terrance Cody on the PUP list for a grand total of about 12 hours before they removed him. Who gives a **** how fast Al can run 12 50-yard sprints? When he plays a position that is based on utilizing his speed then ill worry.

What this guy said.

Maybe we should make him throw a football through a tire from 20 yards and practice his coffin corner punting?

[acuratl1984]

So per PFT, http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/07/29/haynesworths-conditioning-test-featured-two-300-yard-shuttle-runs/

Haynesworth was required to do 2 300 yard shuttle runs....

He killed the first one, but did not finish the second one.
I personally don't think its such a big deal... like he is EVER going to run 600 yards in a game...

[Playsmart30]

So per PFT, http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/07/29/haynesworths-conditioning-test-featured-two-300-yard-shuttle-runs/

Haynesworth was required to do 2 300 yard shuttle runs....

He killed the first one, but did not finish the second one.
I personally don't think its such a big deal... like he is EVER going to run 600 yards in a game...

Agree, Man thank the lord, Redskins fan will never have power to run this team. Fans want to let Haynesworth go, dont care if he over weight or not he still best D lineman on this team. Carter and Orakpo could thanks Haynesworth for some of they stat last year

[smakpo]

so much for not being a distraction...

[elkabong82]

So per PFT, http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/07/29/haynesworths-conditioning-test-featured-two-300-yard-shuttle-runs/

Haynesworth was required to do 2 300 yard shuttle runs....

He killed the first one, but did not finish the second one.
I personally don't think its such a big deal... like he is EVER going to run 600 yards in a game...

He actually passed both sets, but Shanny, who ran the test himself, said Al took too long between sets (only supposed to get 5 minutes, bathroom break probably pushed it over) and made him run a 3rd, which he failed. Shanny sent a very clear message, no BS will be tolerated regardless of your status as a player.

[kramdizzle]

is anyone really shocked?

[JC#17]

This is a non-story, obviously Shanny wanted to prove a point, he was going to run fatty into the dirt no matter what. Sounds like Al is in decent shape, hopefully Shanny doesn't let this become a distraction. Get him on the field with the team and lets move on, focus on the season.

[haithman]

Shanny is a G

[ECU-ALUM]

so much for not being a distraction...

The spin on this from Larry Michael should be most entertaining.

Albert has learned a harsh lesson...he ****ed around with the wrong coaching staff.

[elkabong82]

The spin on this from Larry Michael should be most entertaining.

the spin many on here are putting on this is already pretty entertaining.

[ECU-ALUM]

the spin many on here are putting on this is already pretty entertaining.

Hey do you think Larry will take some of the spin here and use it?

[elkabong82]

Hey do you think Larry will take some of the spin here and use it?

He wouldn't be the first to "borrow" opinions from ES

[CrabR]

I think the test is BS, how many other DL were asked to do it

i would rather have him play DE his way than have him not play at all, after all he has already been paid

[ECU-ALUM]

He wouldn't be the first to "borrow" opinions from ES

:ols:that is true! Good point!

[DCdangerous]

What I liked was the supposed conversation/put down that might have happened:

MS: "You had too much rest between your two sprints. Do a third."

AH: "A third?! Man I never had to do three sprints in my Pro Bowl seasons."

MS: "You must not have ever been in shape your whole career."

BURN!!!!!!

[Madison Redskin]

I personally don't think its such a big deal... like he is EVER going to run 600 yards in a game...

No, but he'll be trying to knock 300-900 lbs. of offensive linemen off the line of scrimmage and running after QBs and RBs dozens of times over the course of 3 hours.

[Stadium-Armory]

Just win baby.

[Section123OnSundays]

Agree, Man thank the lord, Redskins fan will never have power to run this team. Fans want to let Haynesworth go, dont care if he over weight or not he still best D lineman on this team. Carter and Orakpo could thanks Haynesworth for some of they stat last year


Nice grammar and Orakpo had a 4 sack game in which Hayneworth didn't play at all....your theory is false

[jnhay]

Nice grammar and Orakpo had a 4 sack game in which Hayneworth didn't play at all....your theory is false

You usually can't prove something wrong by using one insignificant fact.

[Sandman69]

You usually can't prove something wrong by using one insignificant fact.

4 sacks of an 11 sack season that occurred in a game Al wasn't on the field, isn't insignificant. Yes AL helped when he was on the field, however, I wonder how many of the other 7 sacks had AL off the field or being carted off the field?

[CapitalDefense]

Fat Boy, Fat Boy watcha gonna do

Watcha gonna do when Shanny gets ahold of you

I love it!!!

[DallasSucks19922010]

glazer said they had him doing 12 50yd sprints

any 300+lb lineman would've been walking during the 2nd half of that drill as well

No way, one day at football practice we had to do 31 50-yard sprints in 105 degree heat and the larger guys started walking(due to fatigue not laziness) around 25 sprints. If we can do that then professional athletes should be able to do it in half the time.

[brianm23]

You usually can't prove something wrong by using one insignificant fact.


Guess what? You can't prove he was beneficial to Rakpo because it was his first year and you have NO other stats to go on in regards to Rak.


BOOOOM. Turned that right back around on you big boy.

[Ryman of the North]

the same way you cant prove he wasnt because of the same things.


Boooooom not so much

[Ryman of the North]

4 sacks of an 11 sack season that occurred in a game Al wasn't on the field, isn't insignificant. Yes AL helped when he was on the field, however, I wonder how many of the other 7 sacks had AL off the field or being carted off the field?

the whole 4 sacks thing is a joke, , lets be real if he had a 4 sack game it was because the Oline was brutal. as for whether or not other players would benefit from having AH ? only a moron would suggest this team is better without him. lots of morons around here though, I almost thought I was on a cowpies board.

[Jeff in D.C.]

I've heard conflicting reports about this all day as to exactly what it was that he failed. Can someone tell me exactly what all the elements of his test were? The only thing we should care about is how big of a push he gets up the middle, not how fast his 40-time was.

[Jeff in D.C.]

Nice grammar and Orakpo had a 4 sack game in which Hayneworth didn't play at all....your theory is false

Against the Raiders. I could get 2-3 sacks against them. Not taking anything away from Rak, but just saying.

[2006Skins]

The most important thing is what we're hearing from Shanny and Haynesworth on this is:

Nothing. Shanny said he failed a test, Haynesworth said he failed and wants to go out and play ball. Though it makes for insane team message boards that is good news. That means things are being taken care of in house like it should.