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tr1
August-21st-2010, 09:24 PM
Romo has on TD...a gimmee after SD was about to score but fumbled with an 80 yd run back.

BTW, he had 1 INT, too. :ols::ols::ols:

Super Bowl, baby!

:rotflmao:

Most. Over. Hyped. Team. Ever.

Ken
August-21st-2010, 09:30 PM
Romo has on TD...a gimmee after SD was about to score but fumbled with an 80 yd run back.

BTW, he had 1 INT, too. :ols::ols::ols:

Super Bowl, baby!

:rotflmao:

Most. Over. Hyped. Team. Ever.

Are you saying that his 4400 yard season with only 9 picks was a fluke?

If not, what is your point exactly?

KDVFinest
August-21st-2010, 09:31 PM
Romo has on TD...a gimmee after SD was about to score but fumbled with an 80 yd run back.

BTW, he had 1 INT, too. :ols::ols::ols:

Super Bowl, baby!

:rotflmao:

Most. Over. Hyped. Team. Ever.


TR1 explaining away a cowboys td? Who'd have thunk it? :ols:

tr1
August-21st-2010, 09:37 PM
Hey, if Romo throws as many picks as he throws TDs, it should be a fun season, eh fellas?

:rotflmao:

tr1
August-21st-2010, 09:38 PM
TR1 explaining away a cowboys td? Who'd have thunk it? :ols:

Are you satisfied with that showing?

Please, answer candidly.

KDVFinest
August-21st-2010, 09:44 PM
Are you satisfied with that showing?

Please, answer candidly.


Sorry your question doesn't compute? Please throw in at least 5 :rotflmao:and ask again.

Thanks.

Califan007
August-21st-2010, 09:46 PM
Sorry your question doesn't compute? Please throw in at least 5 :rotflmao:and ask again.

Thanks.

Translation: "No, but there's no way I'll ever admit that to tr1"

tr1
August-21st-2010, 09:48 PM
Translation: "No, but there's no way I'll ever admit that to tr1"

I understand how he feels...must be hard to be a puke fan these days with those lofty expectations and that dismal running game.

:ols:

VCDefectors
August-21st-2010, 09:50 PM
Sorry your question doesn't compute? Please throw in at least 5 :rotflmao:and ask again.

Thanks.

It would be nice to remind him about 3-23 and 54.3, but that would be against ATN regulations and even if it wasn't, he would have no clue what you were talking about.

SWFLSkins
August-21st-2010, 09:50 PM
But the OL looked great right?

THEHEREAFTER
August-21st-2010, 09:52 PM
I don't know if I'd judge Romo off of one half in preseason. All fumbles, TD's and int's are LEGIT. Everything is real and no excuses. You can't legitimize an int and fluke away a TD. Also, if Romo had gone 12-12 with 2td's, 0 int's and a halftime rating of 158, I'm guessing the sentiment would be something like.. Romo lights it up against an "uninterested" SD team in preseason... SB Baby! (sarcasm). I can't say this with certainty. It's just my best guess. It is my opinion that this thread is not very well thought out even considering this is a rival message board.

KDVFinest
August-21st-2010, 09:53 PM
Thought Romo looked better than at least one other nfce qb I saw today. :)

And he was missing two starting Olineman today. There was no doubt he was going to struggle a little bit.

He's still the best qb in the East and 2nd best qb in the NFC taking a backseat to only one Drew Brees. A lack of td's thrown in the PRESEASON doesn't change that.

THEHEREAFTER
August-21st-2010, 09:53 PM
It would be nice to remind him about 3-23 and 54.3, but that would be against ATN regulations and even if it wasn't, he would have no clue what you were talking about.

Since joining this message board in 2005, it is my opinion that the OP does not even watch the redskins and/or is uninterested in their results.

Califan007
August-21st-2010, 09:54 PM
It would be nice to remind him about 3-23 and 54.3, but that would be against ATN regulations and even if it wasn't, he would have no clue what you were talking about.

But it's' NOT against ATN rules to remind everyone of 37.3, which--if I'm correct--is much MUCH lower than 54.3...Nor is it against ATN rules to remind everyone of 10 quarters of football without a single offensive TD for the NFC Super Bowl favorites...and the one TD they did get was courtesy of their defense.

tr1
August-21st-2010, 09:55 PM
But the OL looked great right?

:rotflmao:

Post of the night!

Califan007
August-21st-2010, 09:55 PM
Thought Romo looked better than at least one other nfce qb I saw today. :)
In what possible way? lol :ols:..Seriously, take a stab at explaining that one.

tr1
August-21st-2010, 09:56 PM
I don't know if I'd judge Romo off of one half in preseason. All fumbles, TD's and int's are LEGIT. Everything is real and no excuses. You can't legitimize an int and fluke away a TD. Also, if Romo had gone 12-12 with 2td's, 0 int's and a halftime rating of 158, I'm guessing the sentiment would be something like.. Romo lights it up against an "uninterested" SD team in preseason... SB Baby! (sarcasm). I can't say this with certainty. It's just my best guess. It is my opinion that this thread is not very well thought out even considering this is a rival message board.

Had Romo gone 12-12 with 2 TDs, this thread would never have been started.

We deal in reality here.

You need to read some of HHM's recent posts. He's come to the light.

tr1
August-21st-2010, 09:58 PM
Thought Romo looked better than at least one other nfce qb I saw today. :)



Funny, I thought McNabb was great...the receivers were poor.

But, I wouldn't expect you to be objective considering your fan affiliation.

:ols:

THEHEREAFTER
August-21st-2010, 09:58 PM
But it's' NOT against ATN rules to remind everyone of 37.3, which--if I'm correct--is much MUCH lower than 54.3...Nor is it against ATN rules to remind everyone of 10 quarters of football without a single offensive TD for the NFC Super Bowl favorites...and the one TD they did get was courtesy of their defense.

This is very accurate and astute however I don't think it's wise to get into a "preseason war" right now although it's pretty much inevitable. Every team has a different preseason agenda and or circumstances. Tonight will have little to do with 9-12 when it counts.

tr1
August-21st-2010, 09:59 PM
Since joining this message board in 2005, it is my opinion that the OP does not even watch the redskins and/or is uninterested in their results.

:ols:

I have TWO tv's...

:rotflmao:

THEHEREAFTER
August-21st-2010, 09:59 PM
We deal in reality here.

You need to read some of HHM's recent posts. He's come to the light.

:ols::ols::ols::ols::ols: Please tell me you're not part of this "we." So you deal with reality huh? And let me guess, the "light" is that Dallas SUCKS! Am I right?

tr1
August-21st-2010, 10:00 PM
This is very accurate and astute however I don't think it's wise to get into a "preseason war" right now although it's pretty much inevitable. Every team has a different preseason agenda and or circumstances. Tonight will have little to do with 9-12 when it counts.

Really?

I believe you will be in the minority of thinking come tomorrow morning...when all those pesky news stories come out...and all...

Be afraid.

VCDefectors
August-21st-2010, 10:01 PM
Since joining this message board in 2005, it is my opinion that the OP does not even watch the redskins and/or is uninterested in their results.

I wouldn't know. I read Stadium stuff all the time and I rarely see anything posted by him. But just the fact that any Redskins fan would spend endless hours studying the Cowboys like he does makes me a happy guy. :ols:

THEHEREAFTER
August-21st-2010, 10:01 PM
:ols:

I have TWO tv's...

:rotflmao:


That's awesome. All I'm saying is that in 5+ years, I've never, not once seen you discuss the redskins. Only start cute threads in ATN, only to cry if someone violates the rules. I'm not saying you don't discuss the redskins or that you're not a skins fan. I just haven't seen any evidence of it myself.

tr1
August-21st-2010, 10:01 PM
:ols::ols::ols::ols::ols: Please tell me you're not part of this "we." So you deal with reality huh? And let me guess, the "light" is that Dallas SUCKS! Am I right?

You know HHM's history.

He's been telling it like it is. It's been quite refreshing.

He's becoming a respected member of the opposition fan base.

He should inspire you.

Califan007
August-21st-2010, 10:02 PM
:ols::ols::ols::ols::ols: Please tell me you're not part of this "we." So you deal with reality huh? And let me guess, the "light" is that Dallas SUCKS! Am I right?

Do you agree with a few of your Dallas brethren that Romo looked better than McNabb today?

KDVFinest
August-21st-2010, 10:02 PM
Funny, I thought McNabb was great...the receivers were poor.

But, I wouldn't expect you to be objective considering your fan affiliation.

:ols:

Mcnabb looked great tonight? How many points did he put up again? Maybe we watched a different game. 11-26 with an int and no td's is not great in my book.

But, I wouldn't expect you to be objective considering your fan affiliation.

tr1
August-21st-2010, 10:03 PM
That's awesome. All I'm saying is that in 5+ years, I've never, not once seen you discuss the redskins. Only start cute threads in ATN, only to cry if someone violates the rules. I'm not saying you don't discuss the redskins or that you're not a skins fan. I just haven't seen any evidence of it myself.

I guess you haven't been in the Stadium tonight, eh?

Too funny.

:ols:

Califan007
August-21st-2010, 10:03 PM
That's awesome. All I'm saying is that in 5+ years, I've never, not once seen you discuss the redskins.
That's because you never visit the Stadium...we Skins fans see tr1's Redskins views and input over there. Not over here. Here, we see his views and input on teams other THAN the Skins. Not a hard concept to grasp, really.

tr1
August-21st-2010, 10:04 PM
Mcnabb looked great tonight? How many points did he put up again? Maybe we watched a different game. 11-26 with an int and no td's is not great in my book.

But, I wouldn't expect you to be objective considering your fan affiliation.

He kept hitting receivers in the hands. Had one TD dropped.

He looked a bit inaccurate, but most of the time he was throwing away from defenders.

He's a refreshing breath of air at the qb position for the Skins.

I still have some reservations about him, but he still has the tools.

BigDFan
August-21st-2010, 10:05 PM
But it's' NOT against ATN rules to remind everyone of 37.3, which--if I'm correct--is much MUCH lower than 54.3...Nor is it against ATN rules to remind everyone of 10 quarters of football without a single offensive TD for the NFC Super Bowl favorites...and the one TD they did get was courtesy of their defense.

I am pretty sure the Romo TD to Austin counts as an offensive TD

THEHEREAFTER
August-21st-2010, 10:06 PM
Really?

I believe you will be in the minority of thinking come tomorrow morning...when all those pesky news stories come out...and all...

Be afraid.

Afraid of what exactly? I'm looking forward to football. Yes, I know you will camp out in the safe confines of ATN and report "news" on the NFCE. It's what you do and it's why you're loved by skins fans throughout the world.

tr1
August-21st-2010, 10:07 PM
Oh, and how long before folks in pukeville ask for Kitna to be the starter?

I'm thinking by the end of the night.

Califan007
August-21st-2010, 10:07 PM
Mcnabb looked great tonight? How many points did he put up again? Maybe we watched a different game. 11-26 with an int and no td's is not great in my book.

But, I wouldn't expect you to be objective considering your fan affiliation.
OBJECTIVE? lol :ols:...You claimed Romo looked better than McNabb tonight.

You know what Romo's QB rating was before throwing that gift TD right before the half?

Zero-point-zero.

0.0 QB rating lol :ols:...Please explain "objectively" how that performance so obviously outshined McNabb's.

THEHEREAFTER
August-21st-2010, 10:08 PM
I wouldn't know. I read Stadium stuff all the time and I rarely see anything posted by him. But just the fact that any Redskins fan would spend endless hours studying the Cowboys like he does makes me a happy guy. :ols:

Tr1 is awesome! He's much easier to tolerate once you truly understand his game and the genius behind it. He has this mastered. Trust me on this one.

Califan007
August-21st-2010, 10:08 PM
I am pretty sure the Romo TD to Austin counts as an offensive TD
Ok...9.95 quarters of football...and the TD "courtesy of the defense" I was talking about WAS Romo's TD after the fumble recovery lol.

tr1
August-21st-2010, 10:09 PM
I am pretty sure the Romo TD to Austin counts as an offensive TD

Yup...that was one IMPRESSIVE drive!

:ols:

SD was dominating until that fumble.

Imagine the press tomorrow if SD had scored.

KDVFinest
August-21st-2010, 10:10 PM
He kept hitting receivers in the hands. Had one TD dropped.

He looked a bit inaccurate, but most of the time he was throwing away from defenders.

He's a refreshing breath of air at the qb position for the Skins.

I still have some reservations about him, but he still has the tools.

He's only a breath of fresh air because JC was so mediocre. Wouldn't you rather have Romo at the point in their careers?

tr1
August-21st-2010, 10:10 PM
Tr1 is awesome! He's much easier to tolerate once you truly understand his game and the genius behind it. He has this mastered. Trust me on this one.

:rotflmao:

I always make puke fans nervous when they realize I know more about their team than they do.

BigDFan
August-21st-2010, 10:11 PM
Ok...9.95 quarters of football...and the TD "courtesy of the defense" I was talking about WAS Romo's TD after the fumble recovery lol.

Much better than saying they haven't scored an offensive TD since that would not be accurate wouldn't you agree?

TD's are TDs no matter who they "are courtesy of"

Califan007
August-21st-2010, 10:11 PM
Yup...that was one IMPRESSIVE drive!

:ols:

SD was dominating until that fumble.

Imagine the press tomorrow if SD had scored.

Had SD gone up 14-0 or even 10-0 with Romo sporting a 0.0 QB rating, the press would have been saying "Well, at least he played better than McNabb, dad gummit!"...

tr1
August-21st-2010, 10:12 PM
He's only a breath of fresh air because JC was so mediocre. Wouldn't you rather have Romo at the point in their careers?

He's a breath of fresh air because he has an o-line that looks okay...

You might notice that good line play tends to help qbs...

:rotflmao:

VCDefectors
August-21st-2010, 10:12 PM
Tr1 is awesome! He's much easier to tolerate once you truly understand his game and the genius behind it. He has this mastered. Trust me on this one.

Oh I agree. This place isn't the same without him. Of course, on 99.9% of the internet message boards his shtick would be called trolling, here it is called genius mastery. Thank God for that.

THEHEREAFTER
August-21st-2010, 10:13 PM
Do you agree with a few of your Dallas brethren that Romo looked better than McNabb today?


I'm going to be honest with you Califan. Right now, I do feel like Romo is the better QB. I'm going to stress "right now," because I respect McNabb's past accomplishments although I despise him in every way possible. Honestly, I haven't seen Romo or McNabb tonight as neither team is on in Charlotte. I've only seen stats.

Santana_Fan
August-21st-2010, 10:13 PM
He kept hitting receivers in the hands. Had one TD dropped.

He looked a bit inaccurate, but most of the time he was throwing away from defenders.

He's a refreshing breath of air at the qb position for the Skins.

I still have some reservations about him, but he still has the tools.

And went 3-4 on 3rd downs

tr1
August-21st-2010, 10:14 PM
Oh I agree. This place isn't the same without him. Of course, on 99.9% of the internet message boards his shtick would be called trolling, here it is called genius mastery. Thank God for that.

Dude, only puke fans could see the truth as trolling...

Ken
August-21st-2010, 10:14 PM
I think the disconnect for skins fans is they equate us to their situation, but they could be more different. The cowboys haven't changed much and their team offensively has been good-very good.

So you see that some preseason games are not going to get us flustered, we just want to go into the season with as few injuries as possible.

The skins....4-12 last year and a new qb, coach, and system. U guys are looking for improvement everywhere because you have struggled in recent years.

You need to change the entire culture of your team, we have to tweak some things.

That's where the disconnect is for me with skins fans and ESPN pumping up non issues....

THEHEREAFTER
August-21st-2010, 10:14 PM
I guess you haven't been in the Stadium tonight, eh?

Too funny.

:ols:

Why? Have you posted there? Honestly I didn't think you posted there. I'm being serious.

Califan007
August-21st-2010, 10:16 PM
Much better than saying they haven't scored an offensive TD since that would not be accurate wouldn't you agree?

TD's are TDs no matter who they "are courtesy of"
If you think saying the Cowboys went 148 minutes of football without scoring an offensive TD sounds "much better" than the Cowboys went 150 minutes without scoring an offensive TD, then alrighty, then lol :ols:...

If you think saying the Cowboys only scored the lone offensive TD they DID score thanks to the defense giving them the ball on the 8 yard line sounds "much better" than the Cowboys only scored the lone TD they DID score courtesy of the defense, then, hey lol :ols:...more power to ya. :thumbsup:

tr1
August-21st-2010, 10:16 PM
And went 3-4 on 3rd downs

I can only imagine what it'd be like if we had a true #1 WR.

KDVFinest
August-21st-2010, 10:16 PM
He's a breath of fresh air because he has an o-line that looks okay...

You might notice that good line play tends to help qbs...

:rotflmao:

Should have kept JC and the draft picks then.

Blame Snyder.

THEHEREAFTER
August-21st-2010, 10:16 PM
That's because you never visit the Stadium...we Skins fans see tr1's Redskins views and input over there. Not over here. Here, we see his views and input on teams other THAN the Skins. Not a hard concept to grasp, really.

It isn't difficult at all and yes, I do visit the stadium. All I'm saying is that I haven't seen it. Once again, could be merely a coincidental that we never cross paths there or that I can't remember him posting there. Just my experience. No big deal.

THEHEREAFTER
August-21st-2010, 10:18 PM
Oh, and how long before folks in pukeville ask for Kitna to be the starter?

I'm thinking by the end of the night.

:ols:

tr1
August-21st-2010, 10:18 PM
I think the disconnect for skins fans is they equate us to their situation, but they could be more different. The cowboys haven't changed much and their team offensively has been good-very good.

So you see that some preseason games are not going to get us flustered, we just want to go into the season with as few injuries as possible.

The skins....4-12 last year and a new qb, coach, and system. U guys are looking for improvement everywhere because you have struggled in recent years.

You need to change the entire culture of your team, we have to tweak some things.

That's where the disconnect is for me with skins fans and ESPN pumping up non issues....

What you fail to realize is that your team has changed fundamentally.

Jerruh talked about a small window for accomplishing things. Unlike you, he sees the window has closed.

Losing Flo is a bigger deal than any of you think. And, running back by committee rarely works in the NFL.

You have a recipe for disaster.

Califan007
August-21st-2010, 10:20 PM
I'm going to be honest with you Califan. Right now, I do feel like Romo is the better QB. I'm going to stress "right now," because I respect McNabb's past accomplishments although I despise him in every way possible. Honestly, I haven't seen Romo or McNabb tonight as neither team is on in Charlotte. I've only seen stats.

But that's not what I asked. I asked if you agreed with your Dallas brethern that Romo played better than McNabb tonight...

And even if you haven't seen Romo play...how well do you think he could have actually played with stats like 3/10 for 21 yards, 0 TDs and 1 INT? lol :ols:...I mean, unless every stinkin' pass he threw hit the receivers on the hands but they all dropped each and every one of them, I'd have a hard time believing he played well enough tonight to brag about, gift TD or no gift TD...(and yes, I get to call it a gift TD because I hate the Cowboys lol :D )

BigDFan
August-21st-2010, 10:20 PM
If you think saying the Cowboys went 148 minutes of football without scoring an offensive TD sounds "much better" than the Cowboys went 150 minutes without scoring an offensive TD, then alrighty, then lol :ols:...

This is why I quit trying to have serious conversations here because nobody can be serious you stated the Cowboys have not scored an offensive TD in 10 quarters you were wrong just admit it and move on.



If you think saying the Cowboys only scored the lone offensive TD they DID score thanks to the defense giving them the ball on the 8 yard line sounds "much better" than the Cowboys only scored the lone TD they DID score courtesy of the defense, then, hey lol :ols:...more power to ya. :thumbsup:

I'm saying I dont care how we score. The scoreboard says "points" Not offensive or defensive points not points courtesy of ....

ArmchairRedskin
August-21st-2010, 10:21 PM
Romo should be looking more like Aaron Rodgers at this point. He's been in the offense for a few years and all the pieces around him are familiar. That passing game should be a well oiled machine by now.

Personally, I think comparing his performance to McNabb's is a little disingenuous as McNabb is coming into a totally new situation and it's only been 2 quarters and 2 drives so far under live fire for him.

I'm not writing Romo off, but honestly, as a fan of that team, you gotta be disappointed to a certain degree.

THEHEREAFTER
August-21st-2010, 10:21 PM
OBJECTIVE? lol :ols:...You claimed Romo looked better than McNabb tonight.

You know what Romo's QB rating was before throwing that gift TD right before the half?

Zero-point-zero.

0.0 QB rating lol :ols:...Please explain "objectively" how that performance so obviously outshined McNabb's.

Please explain what a "gift" TD is exactly? The box score showed 9 yard TD to Austin. I will say that I didn't see the highlight so help me. Was Austin not covered? Blown assignment? 9 men on the field for SD? Or are you saying if not for field position, Romo is simply incapable of leading a TD drive although you've seen him do this numerous times in real games..against your own team even? I'm lost here?

tr1
August-21st-2010, 10:22 PM
But that's not what I asked. I asked if you agreed with your Dallas brethern that Romo played better than McNabb tonight...

And even if you haven't seen Romo play...how well do you think he could have actually played with stats like 3/10 for 21 yards, 0 TDs and 1 INT? lol :ols:...I mean, unless every stinkin' pass he threw hit the receivers on the hands but they all dropped each and every one of them, I'd have a hard time believing he played well enough tonight to brag about, gift TD or no gift TD...(and yes, I get to call it a gift TD because I hate the Cowboys lol :D )

I believe this is the third time you've asked, Califan, and the third time it's gone unanswered.

I believe I know why.

;)

LOL!

Califan007
August-21st-2010, 10:22 PM
It isn't difficult at all and yes, I do visit the stadium. All I'm saying is that I haven't seen it. Once again, could be merely a coincidental that we never cross paths there or that I can't remember him posting there. Just my experience. No big deal.

I would agree that it's no big deal except that you seemed to want to make the fact that YOU never saw tr1 talking about the Redskins a big deal in your original post lol...

THEHEREAFTER
August-21st-2010, 10:24 PM
:rotflmao:

I always make puke fans nervous when they realize I know more about their team than they do.

Exactly what I was thinking... :yes: Lol... and I know much more about the skins than you obviously. So we're even I guess?

tr1
August-21st-2010, 10:24 PM
This is why I quit trying to have serious conversations here because nobody can be serious you stated the Cowboys have not scored an offensive TD in 10 quarters you were wrong just admit it and move on.

Semantics boy is back.




I'm saying I dont care how we score. The scoreboard says "points" Not offensive or defensive points not points courtesy of ....

You may not care, but if you listen closely, pukeville is about to commit mass suicide.

:ols:

tr1
August-21st-2010, 10:25 PM
Exactly what I was thinking... :yes: Lol... and I know much more about the skins than you obviously. So we're even I guess?

Good golly...you're so original.

:doh:

THEHEREAFTER
August-21st-2010, 10:27 PM
I think the disconnect for skins fans is they equate us to their situation, but they could be more different. The cowboys haven't changed much and their team offensively has been good-very good.

So you see that some preseason games are not going to get us flustered, we just want to go into the season with as few injuries as possible.

The skins....4-12 last year and a new qb, coach, and system. U guys are looking for improvement everywhere because you have struggled in recent years.

You need to change the entire culture of your team, we have to tweak some things.

That's where the disconnect is for me with skins fans and ESPN pumping up non issues....

This is the best post of the thread by a mile. It is my opinion that skins fans MUST compare and equate EVERY aspect of football to what Dallas is doing. At the same time I wouldn't spend time here if it weren't a unique and strange rivalry.

tr1
August-21st-2010, 10:28 PM
Kitna! Kitna!

9/15 80 yds... 1 TD!

QB controversy...

KDVFinest
August-21st-2010, 10:29 PM
Free is an upgrade at LT.

Dez will is an upgrade at the #3 wr spot when he gets back.

That is all.

tr1
August-21st-2010, 10:30 PM
This is the best post of the thread by a mile. It is my opinion that skins fans MUST compare and equate EVERY aspect of football to what Dallas is doing. At the same time I wouldn't spend time here if it weren't a unique and strange rivalry.

Unfortunately, your premise is incorrect.

In the ATN we strive not to discuss the Skins. Invariably, however, puke fans ALWAYS bring up the Skins whenever someone points out a flaw in that blue and silver hype-myth of a team you have.

You fellas do the comparisons.

We just laugh.

GreenRiggins
August-21st-2010, 10:31 PM
You Cow Fans are not that sharp...

Can't you tell that we are a bit annoyed at what we saw tonight with our own team. :mad::logo::mad:

Califan007
August-21st-2010, 10:32 PM
Please explain what a "gift" TD is exactly? The box score showed 9 yard TD to Austin.
In this instance, a "gift TD" is the defense giving the offense the ball on the 8 yard line on a night when the offense was not producing in any way, shape or form. If Dallas had recovered the ball on their own 12 yard line I highly doubt they would have even moved in to field goal range, nonetheless made it into the end zone. The defense "moved" the ball 80 yards...the offense moved it the last 8. On an night when your offense moved the ball a grand total of 40 yards, having the defense move it 80 stinkin' yards closer to the end zone for you constitutes a "gift" TD.

And think of this for a moment...you guys MUST be starving for offensive scores if you're gonna haggle over whether or not that TD should be considered a gift from the defense lol :ols:...Dallas fans of the past would have easily let that TD be considered a gift TD, because they would have had numerous other scoring on offense to brag about. It's like this one lone TD is your life preserver and no way in hell are you gonna let go of that lol ;)...




I will say that I didn't see the highlight so help me. Was Austin not covered? Blown assignment? 9 men on the field for SD? Or are you saying if not for field position, Romo is simply incapable of leading a TD drive although you've seen him do this numerous times in real games..against your own team even? I'm lost here?
We're not talking about "other games" or "real games"...we're talking about whether or not the one lone offensive TD that Dallas scored in THIS game would have been scored if not for the defense causing the turnover and taking the ball all the way down to the 8 yard line.

THEHEREAFTER
August-21st-2010, 10:32 PM
But that's not what I asked. I asked if you agreed with your Dallas brethern that Romo played better than McNabb tonight...

And even if you haven't seen Romo play...how well do you think he could have actually played with stats like 3/10 for 21 yards, 0 TDs and 1 INT? lol :ols:...I mean, unless every stinkin' pass he threw hit the receivers on the hands but they all dropped each and every one of them, I'd have a hard time believing he played well enough tonight to brag about, gift TD or no gift TD...(and yes, I get to call it a gift TD because I hate the Cowboys lol :D )


:ols: Atleast you're a little bit real. The stats did look a bit ugly but I'm pleased he did throw a TD to clean up a bit regardless of where the drive started. I'm sure we all know that the defense tightens up in the redzone and it's not unusual to have a drive stall inside the ten. Given our redzone woes of late, it still makes me happy.

tr1
August-21st-2010, 10:32 PM
Free is an upgrade at LT.

Dez will is an upgrade at the #3 wr spot when he gets back.

That is all.

Did Free play in the first half?

Has Dez played a down in the NFL?

THAT is all...:ols:

Only in pukeville will a rookie who's never caught a pass in a regular season game be spoken of in glowing terms.

Gentlemen, can we have some reality here.

I'm getting embarrassed for you.

GreenRiggins
August-21st-2010, 10:33 PM
Kitna! Kitna!

9/15 80 yds... 1 TD!

QB controversy...

:ols: :dallasuck:ols::dallasuck:ols:

tr1
August-21st-2010, 10:34 PM
You Cow Fans are not that sharp...

Can't you tell that we are a bit annoyed at what we saw tonight with our own team. :mad::logo::mad:

Can you please stop pretending to be a Skins fan...?

Thanks, in advance.

Califan007
August-21st-2010, 10:34 PM
You Cow Fans are not that sharp...

Can't you tell that we are a bit annoyed at what we saw tonight with our own team. :mad::logo::mad:

Then you're not that sharp, either...because how the Redskins did plays no part whatsoever in my analysis of the Cowboys...and it shouldn't in any other reasonably intelligent person, either. The Skins' issues don't negate the Cowboys' issues, and vise versa.

THEHEREAFTER
August-21st-2010, 10:36 PM
I'm not writing Romo off, but honestly, as a fan of that team, you gotta be disappointed to a certain degree.

Seriously? Thanks for not writing off a guy coming off a 4400+ 9 int season. Different teams, different opponents, different agenda's, different PRESEASON circumstances in many cases. Romo is no Peyton Manning by any means but wouldn't it be silly to ask colts fans if they're disapointed in his PRESEASON play?

THEHEREAFTER
August-21st-2010, 10:38 PM
Kitna! Kitna!

9/15 80 yds... 1 TD!

QB controversy...

Flipped to sarcasm mode. I knew it! Go back and study the thread. Hahahahahahaaha! Amazing!

JustAfan47
August-21st-2010, 10:38 PM
What a nice night to be talking with one another!.. :silly:

Califan007
August-21st-2010, 10:41 PM
This is why I quit trying to have serious conversations here because nobody can be serious you stated the Cowboys have not scored an offensive TD in 10 quarters you were wrong just admit it and move on.
The Cowboys missed by two stinkin' minutes!! :rotflmao:...They were 2 minutes away from going 10 quarters of football without an offensive TD. And in fact, if you want to go back to last year's playoff game against the Vikings, the Cowboys actually went MORE than 10 quarters, to 14 quarters lol :yes:...I assumed that pretty much all Dallas fans, even if they don't like me making fun of their team, would be intelligent enough to grasp that 148 minutes without an offensive TD is, in reality, no different than 150 minutes without an offensive TD...and wouldn't try to hang their arrogance on such a small sliver of an issue. They'd understand what I was getting at...

But, alas, as happens way too often, the benefit of doubt I give to Dallas fans' level of intelligence always backfires in some way lol...




I'm saying I dont care how we score. The scoreboard says "points" Not offensive or defensive points not points courtesy of ....
But the issue being discussed by me, and in the media, has been Dallas' "high powered" offense not scoring in the preseason yet.

tr1
August-21st-2010, 10:42 PM
Ok, fellas, the game isn't over, yet.

What do you think most of the stories will be about tomorrow?

The impressive first half stats by the first team?

How will the first team's performance be sized up?

Anyone?

THEHEREAFTER
August-21st-2010, 10:43 PM
We're not talking about "other games" or "real games"...we're talking about whether or not the one lone offensive TD that Dallas scored in THIS game would have been scored if not for the defense causing the turnover and taking the ball all the way down to the 8 yard line.

I do see your point and I'll be able to analyze this a little better when I see the replay. I guess I'm looking moreso at the grand scheme instead of one lone pre-season game. We'll see how the rest of the preseason progresses for both teams.

tr1
August-21st-2010, 10:44 PM
But, alas, as happens way too often, the benefit of doubt I give to Dallas fans' level of intelligence always backfires in some way lol...

I forgive you, man.

...but, don't do it again.

:ols:

Califan007
August-21st-2010, 10:45 PM
Seriously? Thanks for not writing off a guy coming off a 4400+ 9 int season. Different teams, different opponents, different agenda's, different PRESEASON circumstances in many cases. Romo is no Peyton Manning by any means but wouldn't it be silly to ask colts fans if they're disapointed in his PRESEASON play?
Silly to ask fans of a team and a QB who have been to the Super Bowl twice, if issues being seen in the preseason concern them?...Yeah, probably.

Silly to ask fans of a team and a QB who have only one single wildcard win on their resume if issues being seen in the preseason concern them?...Not in the least.

THEHEREAFTER
August-21st-2010, 10:45 PM
Ok, fellas, the game isn't over, yet.

What do you think most of the stories will be about tomorrow?

The impressive first half stats by the first team?

How will the first team's performance be sized up?

Anyone?

Jesus, you're so caught up in the "stories" and the "press." LMAO... it all makes sense.

Califan007
August-21st-2010, 10:50 PM
I do see your point and I'll be able to analyze this a little better when I see the replay. I guess I'm looking moreso at the grand scheme instead of one lone pre-season game. We'll see how the rest of the preseason progresses for both teams.

I'll tell ya...if this had been the Redskins, 90% of the Stadium would have been livid and would have had zero problem calling that TD a "gift TD".

Even after last week's game, we had more than a few ES members saying that the Skins were more or less lucky, and that if not for a few timely penalties the score would have been 10-3 Buffalo at the half instead of 21-3 Redskins.

Califan007
August-21st-2010, 10:52 PM
I forgive you, man.

...but, don't do it again.

:ols:
:ols:...I'll learn lol ;)

Gotta make bubba proud while I'm over here :cheers:...I bet he's looking up preseason stats right now on God's laptop lol :ols:...

KDVFinest
August-21st-2010, 10:55 PM
Free looked really good tonight; cutting Flo was the smart move.

Actually from what I hear, Flo might not even make the team up in Pitt.... at RT.

tr1
August-21st-2010, 10:56 PM
Jesus, you're so caught up in the "stories" and the "press." LMAO... it all makes sense.

THA, try to walk in our shoes. From ESPN (Extra Special Puke Network) to SI to Sporting World...it's all pukes, pukes, pukes.

If you go to the DMN, you'll see headlines about GB being the only team in the NFC as a threat for your team to go to the SB.

Alas, those of us who watch your team see a patch work o-line, getting older and more injured...a QB who looked HORRIBLE in his last game that counted (reminding many of us what he's looked like the previous four years), and a defense that, quite frankly, is still going to be suspect against the pass.

So, yes, it brings us a load of glee when the early season hype turns to preseason fear, and then finally, when the regular season begins, the ruminations about what went wrong will begin.

For Skins fans, it's quite delightful.

Oh, and I'll be sure to post some stories for you tomorrow.

tr1
August-21st-2010, 10:57 PM
Free looked really good tonight; cutting Flo was the smart move.


Free must have been very impressive run blocking...what were those totals again?

:ols:

KDVFinest
August-21st-2010, 10:58 PM
Free must have been very impressive run blocking...what were those totals again?

:ols:

Free is a stud. I'm so glad we let go of Flo.

THEHEREAFTER
August-21st-2010, 10:59 PM
I'll tell ya...if this had been the Redskins, 90% of the Stadium would have been livid and would have had zero problem calling that TD a "gift TD".

Even after last week's game, we had more than a few ES members saying that the Skins were more or less lucky, and that if not for a few timely penalties the score would have been 10-3 Buffalo at the half instead of 21-3 Redskins.

Ok.. Ok.. I've been disappointed in our offense thus far in the preseason but like Ken stated earlier, I know that we have very potent offense (#2 last year) with a few pieces missing right now. We're returning most of our starters and have an extra preseason game. Look at the Jets. Their starting offense played an entire half in their first pre-season game. Different teams, different circumstances, different injury concerns.

To be clear, I am concerned about the health of our o-line and pass protection in general but it's only a mild concern at this point. The irony is that we seem to move the ball well between the 20's but have stalled in the redzone which is why I'm pleased with punching it in, even if the defense set up good opportunity to score.

GreenRiggins
August-21st-2010, 11:05 PM
Can you please stop pretending to be a Skins fan...?

Thanks, in advance.

Too funny for someone with the initials tr.:ols:

____ please

VCDefectors
August-21st-2010, 11:13 PM
Ok.. Ok.. I've been disappointed in our offense thus far in the preseason but like Ken stated earlier, I know that we have very potent offense (#2 last year) with a few pieces missing right now. We're returning most of our starters and have an extra preseason game. Look at the Jets. Their starting offense played an entire half in their first pre-season game. Different teams, different circumstances, different injury concerns.

To be clear, I am concerned about the health of our o-line and pass protection in general but it's only a mild concern at this point. The irony is that we seem to move the ball well between the 20's but have stalled in the redzone which is why I'm pleased with punching it in, even if the defense set up good opportunity to score.

Yep, that's the spirit. Take whatever breaks you can get. I watched enough of these teams over the years to know that whatever they talk about on paper doesn't usually amount to much. Every year, it's a new team, even if it is the same group of players. Every year, the team has to learn how to play as a team, and how to win as a team.

VCDefectors
August-21st-2010, 11:22 PM
Too funny for someone with the initials tr.:ols:

____ please

As much time and effort as Tr1 spends talking about the Cowboys, don't you just love it when he questions any Skins fan about their loyalty to their team? This is where his trol....(ahem), I mean, genius really shines through.

Ken
August-22nd-2010, 12:13 AM
I'll tell ya...if this had been the Redskins, 90% of the Stadium would have been livid and would have had zero problem calling that TD a "gift TD".

Even after last week's game, we had more than a few ES members saying that the Skins were more or less lucky, and that if not for a few timely penalties the score would have been 10-3 Buffalo at the half instead of 21-3 Redskins.

Well, that's you guys.

I look at it as we concentrated on two things this year that we stunk at last year...creating turnovers on D and punching it in on O in the red zone.

Voila.

Mission Accomplished.

Ken
August-22nd-2010, 12:15 AM
What you fail to realize is that your team has changed fundamentally.

Jerruh talked about a small window for accomplishing things. Unlike you, he sees the window has closed.

Losing Flo is a bigger deal than any of you think. And, running back by committee rarely works in the NFL.

You have a recipe for disaster.

Why is losing Flo a big deal? Has Free not stepped in seamlessly and actually improved the mobility of our Oline immensely?

Maybe I missed this recipe you speak of?

Ken
August-22nd-2010, 12:19 AM
Unfortunately, your premise is incorrect.

In the ATN we strive not to discuss the Skins. Invariably, however, puke fans ALWAYS bring up the Skins whenever someone points out a flaw in that blue and silver hype-myth of a team you have.

You fellas do the comparisons.

We just laugh.

My post was only the mentality that Skins fans try to interject into our situation.

Not that you guys would ever drag the skins into it but you sub consciously think that because you need to see your team actually do it, means that Cowboy fans do too.

You assume that we are worried about guys missing a couple of preseason games and our offense not scoring every time it has the ball in preseason.

We are not concerned. Only concern is not losing key people to injury for the year....that's it.

Califan007
August-22nd-2010, 12:26 AM
Well, that's you guys.

I look at it as we concentrated on two things this year that we stunk at last year...creating turnovers on D and punching it in on O in the red zone.

Voila.

Mission Accomplished.
Oh, yeah, sure sure...you "concentrated" on red zone offense by having the starting offense never once get past the 50 yard line lol :ols:...I guess we really should be blaming the Dallas defense for doing such a crappy job of putting the ball in the Charger's red zone for Romo and the boys since they only did it once, and thus robbed the offense from "concentrating" on their red zone woes. And of course you guys never bothered to concentrate on red zone offense in the last two games, oh no, no...

Or perhaps you were meaning that the Cowboys were always in their red zone offense, even when trapped deep in their own territory...that WOULD explain the pathetic 2.1 yards per attempt that Romo had up until they actually were in the red zone :ols:...makes perfect sense, Ken! That's why they were only having drives of 17, 13, and 9 yards...they were only gameplanning for 20 yard drives, tops lol :thumbsup:

Ken
August-22nd-2010, 01:01 AM
Oh, yeah, sure sure...you "concentrated" on red zone offense by having the starting offense never once get past the 50 yard line lol :ols:...I guess we really should be blaming the Dallas defense for doing such a crappy job of putting the ball in the Charger's red zone for Romo and the boys since they only did it once, and thus robbed the offense from "concentrating" on their red zone woes. And of course you guys never bothered to concentrate on red zone offense in the last two games, oh no, no...

Or perhaps you were meaning that the Cowboys were always in their red zone offense, even when trapped deep in their own territory...that WOULD explain the pathetic 2.1 yards per attempt that Romo had up until they actually were in the red zone :ols:...makes perfect sense, Ken! That's why they were only having drives of 17, 13, and 9 yards...they were only gameplanning for 20 yard drives, tops lol :thumbsup:

Amazing you write so much because of one word.

Going into this season, two areas we wanted to get better at were Defensive Turnovers and Red Zone Offense.

Up until tonight, our Redzone TDs were non existent. Today, at least, we had success in both areas.

No more, no less.

stoney26
August-22nd-2010, 06:20 AM
Well, that's you guys.

I look at it as we concentrated on two things this year that we stunk at last year...creating turnovers on D and punching it in on O in the red zone.

Voila.

Mission Accomplished.

This post might be the dumbest thing Ive heard a fan of little d say since Ive been here. Dont worry though, Im sure defenderofthestar will be posting soon enough.

ArmchairRedskin
August-22nd-2010, 06:54 AM
Ken's team is ten foot tall and bulletproof.

If his team stumbles down the stairs and lands on it's neck it's because it wanted to test out it's neck strength, not because it's clumsy.

dallasfan
August-22nd-2010, 07:04 AM
Romo has on TD...a gimmee after SD was about to score but fumbled with an 80 yd run back.

BTW, he had 1 INT, too. :ols::ols::ols:

Super Bowl, baby!

:rotflmao:

Most. Over. Hyped. Team. Ever.
LOL, it's a gimme TD, but if we didn't score it, then it's "redzone woes continue"

HapHaszard
August-22nd-2010, 07:09 AM
Things must not be all right in Dallas land, Mosley over at ESPN has been strangely silent so far on the Cowboys game. If it had been good we would have had 200 gushing paragraphs by now.

Maximus71
August-22nd-2010, 08:08 AM
These threads are funny, as soon as I see TR1 as the poster I know for sure there is going to be Dallass fans in here trying to rip his thoughts and posts apart! TR1 is like a one man army, takes on the evil pukeville empire... Way to go TR1, let those turds have it :silly: Honestly I am not sure where and how you find the energy to deal with all the jabs and hate you recieve but kudos to you my friend.

**** dallas!

VCDefectors
August-22nd-2010, 08:31 AM
These threads are funny, as soon as I see TR1 as the poster I know for sure there is going to be Dallass fans in here trying to rip his thoughts and posts apart! TR1 is like a one man army, takes on the evil pukeville empire... Way to go TR1, let those turds have it :silly: Honestly I am not sure where and how you find the energy to deal with all the jabs and hate you recieve but kudos to you my friend.

**** dallas!

Yes, tr1 is a genius master. He conserves his energy for doing Cowboys-hate stuff by having others relay messages to him concerning Redskins events. He has a dirty job, but somebody has to do it. He isn't called Mr. ATN for nothing!

tr1
August-22nd-2010, 08:42 AM
Yes, tr1 is a genius master. He conserves his energy for doing Cowboys-hate stuff by having others relay messages to him concerning Redskins events. He has a dirty job, but somebody has to do it. He isn't called Mr. ATN for nothing!

Dirty job? Hardly.

All I do is relay the facts. Hype has no place in the ATN, especially from a homer-based crew that can't find ANYTHING wrong with its team.

We're here to remind fans of the opposition that unabridged gushing about a over-hyped team that's plainly struggling just doesn't fly in our world or reality.

Sorry to be the bearer of bad news.

Try to look past the messenger.

Big Blue Joe
August-22nd-2010, 09:00 AM
Too funny for someone with the initials tr.:ols:

____ please:rotflmao:
You just proved his point. It took me a good 60 seconds to even figure out what you meant by your response. Because only a Cowboys fan looks at the initials tr on a Redskins board and thinks "Tony Romo" instead of something like "The Redskins". In case you were wondering, yes, that does mean that HTTR does not stand for "Hail to Tony Romo" either.

Big Blue Joe
August-22nd-2010, 09:15 AM
Thought Romo looked better than at least one other nfce qb I saw today. :) Obviously, you're not talking about Rhett Bomar. The only QB in the division who managed to lead his team on a touchdown drive longer than ten yards against the opponent's starters.


And he was missing two starting Olineman today. There was no doubt he was going to struggle a little bit.

He's still the best qb in the East and 2nd best qb in the NFC taking a backseat to only one Drew Brees. A lack of td's thrown in the PRESEASON doesn't change that.I'll leave aside the NFCE comparisons for now. But on what planet is Tony Romo somehow considered a better QB than Brett Favre?

penasquito
August-22nd-2010, 09:23 AM
:rotflmao:
You just proved his point. It took me a good 60 seconds to even figure out what you meant by your response. Because only a Cowboys fan looks at the initials tr on a Redskins board and thinks "Tony Romo" instead of something like "The Redskins".
I thought it was 1337 for 'troll'?

Fred Jones
August-22nd-2010, 09:30 AM
TR has been casting for years now and puke fans continue to fall hook-line-and-sinker.

Always fun to watch. And with the dismal display during the preseason, TR has more fuel to stoke the fire.

The pukes should be worried about their Oline. It only takes one season to get old. Just ask the skins. Thomas and Jansen got old and injury prone quick. Samuels should have had another year or two left, but you just never know when you are done. And, this season we lost a potential starter for the season during OTA's.

The puke FO should be held accountable for their failure to address the position. Teams will simply exploit their weakness all season long.

Preseason games are meaningless, but you cannot simply turn a switch come the regular season and expect different results.

Monte51Coleman
August-22nd-2010, 10:08 AM
I always laugh when I see THEHEREAFTER posting here in the preseason.

I always laugh harder when he fails to show up at all after a loss, especially to the Redskins. Should the Skins pull out a win in week 1, THENOTHEREAFTER will again go into effect.

Big Blue Joe
August-22nd-2010, 10:17 AM
I thought it was 1337 for 'troll'?:ols::ols:

ACW
August-22nd-2010, 10:44 AM
Since joining this message board in 2005, it is my opinion that the OP does not even watch the redskins and/or is uninterested in their results.I get that feeling too. I swear he'd rather have both teams 0-16 (yes I know that's impossible) than the Skins winning the Super Bowl :doh:
I don't care about the Cowboys unless it affects us.

No Excuses
August-22nd-2010, 10:51 AM
I get that feeling too. I swear he'd rather have both teams 0-16 (yes I know that's impossible) than the Skins winning the Super Bowl :doh:
I don't care about the Cowboys unless it affects us.

You sure seem to care a lot about what tr1 says though considering this isn't the first time you've said this same stupid **** in a tr1 thread.

ACW
August-22nd-2010, 11:21 AM
You sure seem to care a lot about what tr1 says though considering this isn't the first time you've said this same stupid **** in a tr1 thread.Stupid threads attract stupid **** :D

Califan007
November-13th-2010, 02:12 PM
I think the disconnect for skins fans is they equate us to their situation, but they could be more different. The cowboys haven't changed much and their team offensively has been good-very good.

So you see that some preseason games are not going to get us flustered, we just want to go into the season with as few injuries as possible.

The skins....4-12 last year and a new qb, coach, and system. U guys are looking for improvement everywhere because you have struggled in recent years.

You need to change the entire culture of your team, we have to tweak some things.

That's where the disconnect is for me with skins fans and ESPN pumping up non issues....
The entire thread was worth reading again lol...but this post of Ken's deserved repeating in the form of a quote :D...

No_Pressure
November-13th-2010, 02:21 PM
I like how that KDV guy was trolling and hasn't shown up since the Cowboys took a turn for the worse.

tr1
November-13th-2010, 05:40 PM
That was fun!

I miss those guys.

;)