Which division has the best quarterbacks?

[Hitman21ST]

To get us off of the "which team is doing good/bad" theme...

I was driving around today and got to thinking about each of the quarterbacks in each of the divisions. I can't really think of a division that has four can't miss quarterbacks. Most have three good and one average to above average quarterbacks. Some have two. The NFC North is really the only one with proven quality for all four teams, but Cutler and Stafford still have a lot of improving to do to be can't miss quarterbacks.

NFC
East: McNabb, Romo, Manning, Kolb
North: Favre, Rodgers, Stafford, Cutler
South: Brees, Ryan, Moore, Freeman
West: Smith, Hasselback, Bradford, Leinart

AFC
East: Brady, Sanchez, Henne, Fitzpatrick
North: Roethlisberger, Palmer, Flacco, Delhomme
South: Manning, Schaub, Young, Garrard
West: Rivers, Cassel, Orton, Campbell

IMO the weakest at QB is the AFC West, the strongest is the NFC North. But what does everyone else think?

Editor's note: The order is the way it is. People have argued about homerism, talent, team accompilshment. I'm going back to my original order because it's my post and I can't make everyone happy. If you don't like it, oh well, make your own thread.

[Oldskool]

As much of a homer as I am, you can't have McNabb as the #1 QB in the division simply because you cannot accurately forecast how well he will do in a live fire environment running a system that he has just learned.

[ACW]

NFCN: One of the best today, Favre, Cutler who could be good, and someone with potential.
The NFCW is weakest IMO.

[Hitman21ST]

As much of a homer as I am, you can't have McNabb as the #1 QB in the division simply because you cannot accurately forecast how well he will do in a live fire environment running a system that he has just learned.

I just put McNabb first because I thought of his name first. The other divisions are in my own personal best-worst. To make stuff jive though, I'll reorder it.

EDIT: check OP

[Hunter_R]

One of the norths is the best, and one of the wests is the worst.

[Mr. Jones]

I just put McNabb first because I thought of his name first. The other divisions are in my own personal best-worst. To make stuff jive though, I'll reorder it.

Wait, does this mean you think Eli and McNabb are better than Romo?

It might be time to put down the Dallas hating glasses as Romo has clearly been the best QB the past three years.

On topic though I'd have to agree with NFC north being the strongest, though I'm far from sold on Cutler

[Brandon Lloyd Christmas]

NFC north is the strongest, NFC west is the weakest.

[bushwack]

NFC north is the strongest, NFC west is the weakest.

I agree with this. I would say the NFC East is 2nd to the North, but Kolb is an unknown commodity. 2nd worst ahead of the NFC West is either the AFC East or West, I'm leaning towards the East because after Brady everyone in that group have big questions about them and are very raw.

[Oldskool]

With Rodgers, Favre, Cutler and Stafford, it has to be the NFCN.

[Hitman21ST]

Wait, does this mean you think Eli and McNabb are better than Romo?

It might be time to put down the Dallas hating glasses as Romo has clearly been the best QB the past three years.

On topic though I'd have to agree with NFC north being the strongest, though I'm far from sold on Cutler

I'm not talking about just the past three years, I'm talking overall. Eli has a Super Bowl. McNabb has been to the Super Bowl. Romo has one playoff win. Kolb has started 2 games.

EDIT: check OP

[HailGreen28]

I'd say NFC West is worst. Rivers keeps the AFC West above the NFCW.

Tougher decision who's best. I like the NFC East. If Kolb works out, we could have 4 out of 10 of the top QBs in the NFL. AFC North might catch fire.

If Stafford gets a little more support, and Cutler reverts to his old form, far and away the NFCN would be best.

AFC still has the best QBs, but only one star in each division.

[Hitman21ST]

AFC still has the best QBs, but only one star in each division.

I could make an argument for three stars in the AFC South.

Manning, whose credentials are second to none.
Schaub, who had the #1 passing attack last year.
Young, who can hurt you throwing or running, and with CJ, makes the Titans' offense a viable option threat.

[ConnSKINS26]

I'm not talking about just the past three years, I'm talking overall. Eli has a Super Bowl. McNabb has been to the Super Bowl. Romo has one playoff win.

Those are team accomplishments. If this thread is about QB talent in each division, lets keep it that way.

[Hitman21ST]

Those are team accomplishments. If this thread is about QB talent in each division, lets keep it that way.


If it's about talent, then McNabb has more talent then Romo, and I should go back to my original order. McNabb has better pocket presence, is better facing pressure, and is more of a running threat than Romo.

EDIT: check OP

[HailGreen28]

I could make an argument for three stars in the AFC South.

Manning, whose credentials are second to none.
Schaub, who had the #1 passing attack last year.
Young, who can hurt you throwing or running, and with CJ, makes the Titans' offense a viable option threat.I stand corrected on Schaub. I don't feel he can really carry a team like Peyton, Ben, Tom, or Phillip, but won't argue the point.

Never been impressed by Young since he shined in Texas / USC championship game way back.

[ConnSKINS26]

If it's about talent, then McNabb has more talent then Romo, and I should go back to my original order. McNabb has better pocket presence, is better facing pressure, and is more of a running threat than Romo.

That's your call, as its your opinion.

But I'd argue that Romo has an incredibly quick release and better pocket awareness, which not only trump your better pocket "presence", but also makes him better at facing pressure. (See: The Cowboys porous OL the last couple of years, and how decent Romo makes it look).

No matter what our opinions are, I'm just saying that in a poll like this you have to leave the team accomplishments out of it.

[Mr. Jones]

If it's about talent, then McNabb has more talent then Romo, and I should go back to my original order. McNabb has better pocket presence, is better facing pressure, and is more of a running threat than Romo.

Romo is more accurate, more elusive, has a faster release. Last year he out preformed McNabb in every way, better completion rate, more yards per attempt, more yards, more TDs, fewer ints, fewer sacks, literally everything.

Currently the order should read Romo, McNabb, Manning, Kolb.

[Hitman21ST]

But I'd argue that Romo has an incredibly quick release and better pocket awareness, which not only trump your better pocket "presence", but also makes him better at facing pressure. (See: The Cowboys porous OL the last couple of years, and how decent Romo makes it look).

Ah, but look how he has done in recent games (Vikings and preseason)...when he gets pressured consistently he rushes to make the throw. He has 55 INTs in 4 years, McNabb has 100 INTs in 11. He is more prone to the erratic throw. Yes, I know not all interceptions are on the QB, but Romo is averaging almost 14 per year, where Donovan is at 9 per year, and Romo has had much higher quality receivers.


I'm just saying that in a poll like this you have to leave the team accomplishments out of it.

Just for argument's sake, the quarterback has a lot to do with the team's accomplishment. :saber:



But I digest. This thread isn't about just the NFCE QBs...we need to bring in talk about the other divsions too.

[ConnSKINS26]

Ah, but look how he has done in recent games (Vikings and preseason)...when he gets pressured consistently he rushes to make the throw. He has 55 INTs in 4 years, McNabb has 100 INTs in 11. He is more prone to the erratic throw. Yes, I know not all interceptions are on the QB, but Romo is averaging almost 14 per year, where Donovan is at 9 per year, and Romo has had much higher quality receivers.

I'll give you the interceptions, but Romo also scores more TD's. Depending on the "type" of offense you run, that can work.

Listen, I hate arguing for Romo over our QB, who I'm loving right now. I'm just saying that you shouldn't rate McNabb over Romo ONLY because he's been to a SB.

If you have concrete reasons (in your opinion) why McNabb is better than Romo, that don't include team accomplishments, then that's more than fair, and I can't put down your opinion.



Just for argument's sake, the quarterback has a lot to do with the team's accomplishment. :saber:

Oh, I agree with you. But we have no idea how much, exactly. Just using the eyeball test, I'd say that McNabb and Romo are/were equally important to the success of their respective offenses, bringing an evaluation of who's "better" down to opinions about mechanics, arm strength, accuracy, etc.

Which is why its a tough discussion. No one is EVER going to sway somebody else in a debate like this, because its all a personal preference in terms of which QB you like better (as long as everyone is picking a reasonably good QB, that is).

[ConnSKINS26]

Oh, and to bring in talk about other division's QB's....

I have to go NFC North as well. If Cutler can get his head on straight in an offense that suits him, he WILL be right up there with Aaron Rodgers in the "young stud QB" category in that division, easily making that division the best in football in terms of QB's. Never mind the legend that is Brett Favre and the immense potential of Matt Stafford.

In fact, I STILL wish we had found a way to end up with Cutler (I know, I know, we wouldn't have Rak or Trent. I'm just sayin'...)

[Hitman21ST]

Listen, I hate arguing for Romo over our QB, who I'm loving right now. I'm just saying that you shouldn't rate McNabb over Romo ONLY because he's been to a SB.

Oh, believe me, it's not. Sometimes I like to put stuff up there just to incite agruments and discussion.

Obviously, my evil plan has worked.:evil:

[ConnSKINS26]

Oh, believe me, it's not. Sometimes I like to put stuff up there just to incite agruments and discussion.

Obviously, my evil plan has worked.:evil:
:ols: yes it has.

You should enjoy my Cutler man-love, then. If that doesn't invite arguments and discussion, I don't know what will :evilg:

(p.s. I like your devilish smiley so much more, but I hate going into the "more" smileys to find it)

[Hitman21ST]

:ols: yes it has.

You should enjoy my Cutler man-love, then. If that doesn't invite arguments and discussion, I don't know what will :evilg:

(p.s. I like your devilish smiley so much more, but I hate going into the "more" smileys to find it)


Just type (colon)evil(colon)

And about Cutler, I'm not too sure we would have gotten Shanahan either. Weren't they at odds with each other while there?

[ConnSKINS26]

Just type (colon)evil(colon)

And about Cutler, I'm not too sure we would have gotten Shanahan either. Weren't they at odds with each other while there?

No way, man. They love each other, Cutler was Shanahan's next great franchise QB.

Cutler didn't get along with McDaniels when he got there because he WASN'T Shanahan. Cutler was pissed they fired him, if I remember correctly. That started the whole thing.

EDIT: And thanks for the tip! :evil:

[darklight1216]

I think the top three are the NFC and AFC North divisions along with the NFC East. The East doesn't have any starting qbs that are genuinely bad players and arguably all of them are above average unlike both North divisions which have interception machines.

I'm going to go with the NFC North, though. One could make an arguement for Drew Brees being the best qb in the NFL as of last seaso, Favre will be remembered as one of the best of all time and Aaron Rodgers isn't too shabby either. Even their worst qb is better than the worst ones in some other divisions.

I could break down the AFC North too, but I'm sure no one really wants to read all of that. :silly:

I stand corrected on Schaub. I don't feel he can really carry a team like Peyton, Ben, Tom, or Phillip, but won't argue the point.
Why not? He has never carried a team in the NFL so until he proves otherwise, you'd probably win that arguement.


Never been impressed by Young since he shined in Texas / USC championship game way back.
No one outside of Tennessee seems to really like him either.

Just type (colon)evil(colon)

And about Cutler, I'm not too sure we would have gotten Shanahan either. Weren't they at odds with each other while there?
I don't think so; Cutler was his baby.

[Hitman21ST]

No way, man. They love each other, Cutler was Shanahan's next great franchise QB.




I don't think so; Cutler was his baby.

I guess the giant rift that was Cutler-McDaniels made me think that it started with Shanahan. Thanks for the sanity check.

[hoskins]

I'm going with the NFC East, because assuming Kolb pans out as expected that's a pretty strong foursome there. No real weak link.

AFC West and NFC West are looking weak.

I wonder about the AFC East though. So Brady obviously is one of the best. But Henne and Sanchez? Maybe, maybe not.

And boy does Edwards or Fitzpatrick really bring the average down there. Those two would be 3rd string on a lot of other NFL teams.

[fsunoles0021]

I voted NFC North. Rodgers is elevating himself to elite status, Favre speaks for himself, Cutler has all the talent in the world and we'll see if he has a bounce back year, and Stafford looks poised to be a very good QB.

That being said, the NFC East order is without a doubt:

Romo, Manning, McNabb, Kolb

[Hitman21ST]

That being said, the NFC East order is without a doubt:

Romo, Manning, McNabb, Kolb

I'd like to see how an impartial fan (AFC West or something) rates our Qbs. Everyone in the East has some sort of homer glasses on.

[Botched]

I'd say NFC North is the best.

NFC West is the worst.


:ols: yes it has.

You should enjoy my Cutler man-love, then. If that doesn't invite arguments and discussion, I don't know what will :evilg:

(p.s. I like your devilish smiley so much more, but I hate going into the "more" smileys to find it)

I like Cutler too. He's one of the most enjoyable QBs to watch. He throws a ton of INTs, but the guy also throws some of the prettiest looking passes I've ever seen.

[fsunoles0021]

I'd like to see how an impartial fan (AFC West or something) rates our Qbs. Everyone in the East has some sort of homer glasses on.

Good question. I'll ask a die hard Raiders fan what his order would be.

[darklight1216]

I'd like to see how an impartial fan (AFC West or something) rates our Qbs. Everyone in the East has some sort of homer glasses on.
:silly: I don't count?

[fsunoles0021]

:silly: I don't count?

Shoot. Who ya got?

[GreenRiggins]

The NFC North has the best set of QBs and the rankings are Romo/McNabb/Kolb/Eli....uhhhhhh ahhhhh I mean Eli/Kolb...
I mean McNabb/Romo/Kolb/Eli....No meant Eli/McNabb/Romo/Kolb.....ahhhhh I meant

[LeftCoast Skinz FAN]

My ranking:


1. NFC North
2. NFC East
3. AFC East
4. AFC North
5. NFC South
6. AFC South
7. NFC West
8. AFC West :mad:

:logo:

[Hitman21ST]

My ranking:


1. NFC North
2. NFC East
3. AFC East
4. AFC North
5. NFC South
6. AFC South
7. NFC West
8. AFC West :mad:

:logo:

Why do you have the AFC South so low? Manning, Schaub, Young, Garrard. I'd be ok with the first three as the Skins quarterback. They're better than the NFC South and AFC North at least.

[HailGreen28]

Why not? He has never carried a team in the NFL so until he proves otherwise, you'd probably win that arguement.Schaub did a great job last season. I wouldn't put him in the same category as Peyton, Brady... but if Schaub keeps it up...

[smiley4284]

NFC North and East are comparable.

NFC West is the worst. Definitely

[Enter Apotheosis]

I don't understand the people who think the AFCW is worse than the NFCW. For perspective...

Phillip Rivers is miles ahead of Matt Hasselbeck (and everyone else).
Jason Campbell has had a better career than Alex Smith thus far (and they were in the same draft class).
Kyle Orton is a solid, if unspectacular, starting QB while Sam Bradford is an unproven talent (and has been up and down so far in the preseason).
Matt Cassel is a one year wonder while Matt Leinart is a no year wonder (and potentially about to lose his job to Charlie Frye).

[MusicCitySkin]

NFC West is a complete joke of a division. But anyway, I'd have to say the combined powers of Peyton and Schaub make AFC South the best this far. However, I think this year with Rodgers, Favre, Stafford, and Cutler at the helms, they'll surpass AFC South.

[ddub52]

No one really mentioning the AFC North much. Id say they could push for the number 2 spot. Also, is Leinhart the definite starter in AZ? I thought Anderson still had a shot?

[HailGreen28]

No one really mentioning the AFC North much. Id say they could push for the number 2 spot. Also, is Leinhart the definite starter in AZ? I thought Anderson still had a shot?Agreed about AFC North. They might be the best period. If Bathroom Ben stays out of trouble, Palmer gels with the Ocho-TO duo, Flacco keeps playing well, and Delhomme gets back to old form, the only division that could probably challenge them is the NFCN.

[sjinhan]

I could make an argument for three stars in the AFC South.

Manning, whose credentials are second to none.
Schaub, who had the #1 passing attack last year.
Young, who can hurt you throwing or running, and with CJ, makes the Titans' offense a viable option threat.

i am with you here.. i think this division has the best QBs.. maybe not the best teams but AFC south is where it is at!

[SkinsFanMania]

Who voted for the AFC West. Speak now or forever hold your peace.

[MLSKINS]

No one really mentioning the AFC North much. Id say they could push for the number 2 spot. Also, is Leinhart the definite starter in AZ? I thought Anderson still had a shot?
I see where you are coming from but Delhomme (sp) brings them way down. I will put them I will put them over the AFC East, but under the NFC South.

My Rankings:
NFC Norris
NFC Beast
AFC South
NFC South
AFC North
AFC East
AFC West
NFC West

[darrelgreenie]

IMO the weakest at QB is the AFC West, the strongest is the NFC North. But what does everyone else think?


NFC
North: Favre, Rodgers, Stafford, Cutler

Its hard for me to choose between the NFC East vs NFC North
the top 3s are close but Kolb vs Stafford tips the scale in their favor

[Warhead36]

What about the AFC South?

Manning is obviously a stud. Schaub put up huge #s. Gerrard is solid. Young was a big time gamer last year. I think I might actually take that group over any other.

[CPORTISFAN999]

The NFC North has the best set of QBs and the rankings are Romo/McNabb/Kolb/Eli....uhhhhhh ahhhhh I mean Eli/Kolb...
I mean McNabb/Romo/Kolb/Eli....No meant Eli/McNabb/Romo/Kolb.....ahhhhh I meant


ummm.......you do know that romo, mcnab, eli and kolb arent in the nfc north...dont you? :doh::doh::doh::doh:

[zoony]

I have AFC South as first, personally

[ddub52]

I see where you are coming from but Delhomme (sp) brings them way down. I will put them I will put them over the AFC East, but under the NFC South.

My Rankings:
NFC Norris
NFC Beast
AFC South
NFC South
AFC North
AFC East
AFC West
NFC West

Delhomme has had some pretty good statistical years though. And NFC South that high? We dont even know for sure who will start in Carolina. Not to mention that currently Josh Johnson is far from being as good as Delhomme.