Is everyone ready to bow down and recognize the greatness which is the Philadelphia Eagles

[Westbrook36]

Are the Colts a good team? It seems every win has to be minimized on ES by an opposing NFC East team. Let me guess; it is time to play the Colts were injured game, right?

Worst officiated game I have personally watched in the NFL in at least 2 years; and the Eagles still found a way to win.

In their last 3 games, they have dominated the 5-2 Falcons, dominated the Titans for 3 quarters then fell apart and dominated the Colts which would have lost by 10+ if it weren't for the officials.

For Tweeder: it is 8pm where I am at and I am safe and sound in Manama, Bahrain. I did fly this morning. Thanks for your concern. I was surprised there were absolutely no comments on the Eagles game in this forum. Actually, I'm not. I wonder how many pages the thread would be celebrating their loss if they had lost yesterday.

Anyway, I think it is time you guys bow down and recognize the Eagles are a very good football team in a very weak NFL this year.

Times yours.

[Califan007]

Oh, thank God. I was starting to worry that the Eagles might be getting their **** together. Thanks for the reassurance that they aren't, Westy :thumbsup:

[dockeryfan]

not traveling today. Got it. What a dooosh

[Duckus]

:ols::ols::ols: Another classic from Bania.

[Westbrook36]

not traveling today. Got it. What a dooosh

No, I did travel. It is just night where I am.

[Duckus]

For Tweeder: it is 8pm where I am at and I am safe and sound in Manama, Bahrain. I did fly this morning. Thanks for your concern. I was surprised there were absolutely no comments on the Eagles game in this forum. Actually, I'm not. I wonder how many pages the thread would be celebrating their loss if they had lost yesterday.

34 years old

10,000+ posts

6 years on ES

And you are surprised that on a message board called Extreme SKINS that we celebrate our rivals losses and ignore their wins. You expect otherwise :ols:. Now, I am not questioning your intelligence . . . never mind, that is exactly what I am doing. Your an idiot.

Had you lost we would have laughed and made a 50 page thread about it. That is fun. We don't care about your team besides to taunt them when they lose. That's about it.

[dockeryfan]

No one actually believes you anymore about the travel Bania.

I think some of us did at one time

[No_Pressure]

All the Eagles forums I've ever seen celebrate the victories of their NFC East friends and lament their losses. After all, in the city of brotherly love we're all in this together!

[Westbrook36]

No one actually believes you anymore about the travel Bania.

I think some of us did at one time

The last time you questioned me, I quickly posted a picture that proved you 100 percent wrong and you never addressed again. Maybe a picture at the arrival of every airport in my region on a Monday would suffice? Probably not.

Hey, why don't you want to talk Eagles, dock? :laugh:

[SkinsHokieFan]

For Christmas I am buying WB36 a Michael Vick jersey :ols:

I love it. After all those years of trashing Vick, he is cheering for him every Sunday


P.S 17-12

[Westbrook36]

Be honest. Doesn't it suck that every single year in which you guys hype up your team and talk about how terrible the Eagles are going to be because of ____ always winds up with you guys deeply wishing your team's situation was reversed with them?

[terrifNick21]

I hate the Eagles fans. They're nothing but classless losers. You suck.

[SkinsHokieFan]

Be honest. Doesn't it suck that every single year in which you guys hype up your team and talk about how terrible the Eagles are going to be because of ____ always winds up with you guys deeply wishing your team's situation was reversed with them?

Be honest...after yesterday you PM'd TK asking if you could change your handle to MV7

:ols:

[adam@section118]

The only thing I will remember is after A.C. was knocked out (and I thought he was dead) seeing a player jump around and make an ass of himself as someone is laying passed out on the ground, and hearing a fan yell out something along the lines of "GET UP! GET OFF THE FIELD"

[SkinsHokieFan]

Why oh why does Westy avoid talking about his team's savior this season? :ols:

Now that Andy Reid is using Vick the way he was meant to be used (a vertical passing game) he is showing his skills quite nicely, and has had a pretty productive year.

Without Vick, no win over the Colts

After next Monday night, the Iggles will be 5-4 and in 3rd place.

Sig bet Westy?

[Boss_Hogg]

eagles came off a bye, Colts had a short work week,

recipe for a 2 point eagle win IMO.

[SWFLSkins]

For Christmas I am buying WB36 a Michael Vick jersey :ols:

I love it. After all those years of trashing Vick, he is cheering for him every Sunday


P.S 17-12

Well he is registered on ebay for this item.....what with the bridal shower coming up......

http://i549.photobucket.com/albums/ii382/ebayauctionimages/thongs/27668798.jpg

[SkinsHokieFan]

eagles came off a bye, Colts had a short work week,

recipe for a 2 point eagle win IMO.

And isn't Andy Reid just unstoppable off a bye week? Something like 10-1?

[Tweedr01]

LOL, westys threads are like car accidents, you can't help but watch. In fact, I don't need to even say anything. My redskins brothers said it all. I am sooooooo happy that westy started this thread, I was really worried about next week.

[Chachie]

Wow, WB. You are consistent. I'll give you that. :)

[Inquisitor]

eagles came off a bye, Colts had a short work week,

recipe for a 2 point eagle win IMO.

Not to mention the 20 odd street free agents the Colts were forced to start, guys who had never picked up a football until 3 weeks ago were expected to fill in vital roles, making that awe-inspiring 2-point Eagles victory all the more impressive.

I will bow down and recognize the lameness that is the Eagles fanbase however, no victory is hollow enough for these cretins to climb out from under their rock and brag and jump for joy as they continue to demonstrate they still have no clue how to win with any class... nor will they likely ever.

[70Chip44]

- Classic let down game coming up for these clowns after yesterday's so-called big W against Peyton and The Backups to the Backup...

- I hope we crush em! Man, are we friggin LONG LONG LONG (that's what she said) overdue to blow some out...

[adam@section118]

And isn't Andy Reid just unstoppable off a bye week? Something like 10-1?

I read somewhere today he has never lost coming off of a be week, fwiw

[RichmondRedskin88]

Congrats the Eagles beat a team ravaged by injuries caused by oh right us.

Play the Colts again when they have Clark and Addai. You guys lose by 14.

[renaissance]

Yes I am ready to bow down to the greatness that is KEVIN KOLB.

Oh, wait.

[Rocky21]

Well he is registered on ebay for this item.....what with the bridal shower coming up......Get off SWFL. That's a classic.

Oh and that picture of big dumpy 13 year old Andrew Ried doing PP&K yesterday was priceless. I need to have a t-shirt made of that one.
http://static03.mediaite.com/sportsgrid/uploads/2010/11/rsz_4reidpuntpasskick-220x157.jpg

http://www.sportsgrid.com/nfl/andy-reid-punt-pass-kick-video/

The Iggles. What losers.

[Larry Brown #43]

Be honest. Doesn't it suck that every single year in which you guys hype up your team and talk about how terrible the Eagles are going to be because of ____ always winds up with you guys deeply wishing your team's situation was reversed with them?

Who hyped up the Skins? Certainly not the media. Just about everyone had us picked to finish last, which likely won't happen.

And I think before the season started, most Skins fans would have been delighted with a 4-4 start after last season's mess.

Oh, and regarding your Kolb thread...yes, he looked AWESOME yesterday.

The Eagles are what they are. They're always in the mix, and they always break their fans' hearts in the end. Who says this year is any different?

Enjoy the win over the Colts, because a loss by your boys Monday night at FedEx would put us ahead of you with a 3-0 record in the division and 5-2 in-conference. It would also leave you guys at 0-2 in the division and 3-3 in-conference. Not to mention, it would leave you with a tidy sweep at the hands of the Skins. :)

[pjfootballer]

I was surprised there were absolutely no comments on the Eagles game in this forum. Actually, I'm not.

Maybe because nobody gives a **** about the Eagles? :whoknows: :insane::shhh::jerk::bfd::sucks::stfu::eaglesuck:r olleyes:


Be honest. Doesn't it suck that every single year in which you guys hype up your team and talk about how terrible the Eagles are going to be because of ____ always winds up with you guys deeply wishing your team's situation was reversed with them?

And every year your trophy case is still empty. Looks like every single year you are just as disappointed (if not more because of the expectations) as we are.

[Larry Brown #43]

nm..................

[AzSkinsFan63]

hmmmmm......NO!

[Switchgear]

I was surprised there were absolutely no comments on the Eagles game in this forum. Actually, I'm not. I wonder how many pages the thread would be celebrating their loss if they had lost yesterday.


First off, thanks for the jinx. Like clockwork.

Secondly, you're berating Skins fans for failing to comment on Eagle's wins? Really? We don't talk about the Eagles when they win. That's true. However, you don't talk about the Eagles when they lose. Other than the times you announce you're done with them.

Keep up the good work, Jinxbrook36.

[dockeryfan]

Hey, why don't you want to talk Eagles, dock? :laugh:

Being that you travel so much, you probably didn't watch the game. I did.

Let me say that the Eagles looked good. Well coached and well rested after the bye as always. Vick looked fine IMO. He has looked better this year, but he threw some very nice balls, and I think played a great game. OK he had a few that should have been INTs but he did fine. But I'm not ready to anoint the Eagles because of a few things. First, the Colts defense is quite bad. Nothing like the Redskins will give them next week. Second, they looked extremely sloppy. The game was almost unwatchable with all the penalties. Also, I think Kolb gets klobbered if he's behind center yesterday. That's why the Eagles won't be able to get it done against a better defense this year. Vick was quick to look around and get his feet moving because he does not trust the line. Deservedly so. They're horrible. So teams will be able to go back to the classic Vick defense. Force him to keep throwing, and don't allow the Eagles Vick to beat you with his feet. The Giants are playing far and away the best in the division. Their defense is playing lights out. So the Eagles will have to face 2 very good defenses in the next 2 weeks. Could the Eagles come out of the NFC this year? Sure, it's a week to week league, that much is proven. The skins game will show a little, but the giants game will show a lot. And Bradley in coverage is a disaster still.

[SWFLSkins]

not long ago Westy hated Vick, now he is dating him.....

http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb201/poopsie0913/popular_dog_toy.jpg

[Tweedr01]

Congrats the Eagles beat a team ravaged by injuries caused by oh right us.

Play the Colts again when they have Clark and Addai. You guys lose by 14.

There's no way Clark drops those easy passes over the top. Tamme/hamme whatever his name was, had westys coverage beat everytime but couldn't catch the ball to save his life.


Maybe because nobody gives a **** about the Eagles? :whoknows: :insane::shhh::jerk::bfd::sucks::stfu::eaglesuck:r olleyes:

And every year your trophy case is still empty. Looks like every single year you are just as disappointed (if not more because of the expectations) as we are.

QFT, who cares? Westys team still hasn't done anything yet, not now, not previously, and not in westys lifetime. The only one who cares is westy.


First off, thanks for the jinx. Like clockwork.

Secondly, you're berating Skins fans for failing to comment on Eagle's wins? Really? We don't talk about the Eagles when they win. That's true. However, you don't talk about the Eagles when they lose. Other than the times you announce you're done with them.

Keep up the good work, Jinxbrook36.

That's exactly what I was thinking....so he comes on here to tell us we aren't talking about the birds when they are winning, but when's the last time he ate his crow when they were losing? It just happens EVERY week this dude has to 'work' when they lose, but if they are winning he's creating a new thread. LOL, EPIC FAILURE!

[WhoRUSupposed2Be]

The Eagles are night and day.

When they're on, they're the best in the league but when they're playing inconsistently, they're beatable.

[tr1]

:rotflmao:

The most fair of fair-weather fans of the Eagles is BACK!

And, why shouldn't I be surprised. When a guy gives up on his team when they're down, he's sure to be back hard on their jock when they're up.

I hope we don't hurt Vick again next week.

:ols:

[pointyfootball]

Without wading through all the fish-rising-to-the-bait posts, I'll give my Iggles fan evaluation of yesterday's team:

First, totally unfair that the NFL schedules a team to go on the road after a short week to play a team that just came off of it's bye. No team should get that much advantage.

Second, the refereeing yesterday was horrible. Going both ways.

To the game. Eagles really dominated that game, except they couldn't put it in the endzone. Settling for four field goals after being 1st and goal is not the way to beat Peyton, and they were fortunate it didn't come back to bite them in the butt.

Negatives: Way to many penalties, even if you exclude the BS ones. 3rd and 2 with chance to ice the game and you get a 5yarder? Inexcusable.

Eagles defense still can't cover a tight-end to save their lives. I understand you're worried about Collie and Wayne, but you can't let a 2nd stringer get going that much. Did I mention you have to score TDs?

Positives: Beat Peyton. Patterson did well. No turnovers. Good drive in the 4th to chew up time. Good job against Matthis & Freeney. Samuel.

Overall I think the Eagles are a top 8 team in the NFC right now. A win on the road next week would jump them to top-5 IMO. They're letting teams stay in games and it's making for nail-biting (or worse) finishes (Titans, 49ers, Colts). It will be interesting to see if this Eagles team performs like teams in the past wrt November & December games.

[fullnelson9999]

You probably find it quite appropriate to jump around and ***** about a call when a player is hurt on the ground after taking a shot to the head.

I will not bow to that.

[thebluefood]

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[Tweedr01]

:rotflmao:

The most fair of fair-weather fans of the Eagles is BACK!

And, why shouldn't I be surprised. When a guy gives up on his team when they're down, he's sure to be back hard on their jock when they're up.

I hope we don't hurt Vick again next week.

:ols:

I know right, this guy just never learns. His team is full of lightweights, I hope they can make it through this game, last time they weren't so fortunate.

I now feel special, I'm getting called out by westy, if I didn't feel that I would jinx any luck the skins had I'd start making predictions like tr1 about the birds. Seems he's always right about the pukes!

EDIT: Hello? Westy? You there? (I don't doubt you will respond because you aren't 'working' this week) bwahahaha

[pointyfootball]

You probably find it quite appropriate to jump around and ***** about a call when a player is hurt on the ground after taking a shot to the head.

I will not bow to that.

I was saying he had a good game. Don't think I was bowing down. He had every right to be pissed, although could have done without the histrionics.

[Big Blue Joe]

Be honest. Doesn't it suck that every single year in which you guys hype up your team and talk about how terrible the Eagles are going to be because of ____ always winds up with you guys deeply wishing your team's situation was reversed with them?I thought the Eagles season would turn out similar to how the Cowboys' year has unfolded. That concussion Kolb got in week 1 was the luckiest break the Eagles have gotten all year long.

[pointyfootball]

I thought the Eagles season would turn out similar to how the Cowboys' year has unfolded. That concussion Kolb got in week 1 was the luckiest break the Eagles have gotten all year long.

Maybe, although I think AR would have pulled him if he kept playing crappy.

[dockeryfan]

Positives: ... Patterson did well.

I'm not sure which Patterson you mean, but they both had great games.

[MrSilverMaC]

Such a petty thread on a day when the NFC east has lost Wade Phillips.

You're such an attention whore, you should apologize and join the mourning in one of the Phillips threads.

[Sekhmet728]

http://www.reluctantgourmet.com/images/ribs_bbq_sauce.jpg

I'm ready for a second helping :)

[pjfootballer]

Without wading through all the fish-rising-to-the-bait posts, I'll give my Iggles fan evaluation of yesterday's team:


We're not fish. We know what Westy is doing. It just gives us something to do during the bye week and helps us to call out a fan that won't show up after losses. He's not fooling anyone.

[MusicCitySkin]

kevin kolb

[SWFLSkins]

http://i906.photobucket.com/albums/ac261/victorysnap/6ar0pjc.jpg

[Westbrook36]

EDIT: Hello? Westy? You there? (I don't doubt you will respond because you aren't 'working' this week) bwahahaha

Sigh. You can't be this dense, can you, Tweeder? Whenever you are about to ask where I am, add 9 hours to whatever time it is where you are at. If that time is in the middle of then night, I am probably sleeping.

I always post within 24 hours of a game, win or lose, traveling or not traveling. Again, I can't post right after a game if it was a 4 oclock game and it is 4am my time.

Anyway, I have enjoyed this thread completely. So much intrigue and drama. Just think, as recently as a week ago, dock was still contending the Skins won the McNabb trade. :laugh:

I wonder if he will get benched again in front of a national TV audience this week?

Just so you guys know, the Eagles get a 3rd rounder if he makes the ProBowl this year. There is a huge campaign on all the Eagles message boards to vote him in, even though his performance says he shouldn't even be a starter in the NFL anymore. :laugh:

[Rey]

Sigh. You can't be this dense, can you, Tweeder? Whenever you are about to ask where I am, add 9 hours to whatever time it is where you are at. If that time is in the middle of then night, I am probably sleeping.

I always post within 24 hours of a game, win or lose, traveling or not traveling. Again, I can't post right after a game if it was a 4 oclock game and it is 4am my time.

Anyway, I have enjoyed this thread completely. So much intrigue and drama. Just think, as recently as a week ago, dock was still contending the Skins won the McNabb trade. :laugh:

I wonder if he will get benched again in front of a national TV audience this week?

Just so you guys know, the Eagles get a 3rd rounder if he makes the ProBowl this year. There is a huge campaign on all the Eagles message boards to vote him in, even though his performance says he shouldn't even be a starter in the NFL anymore. :laugh:

It would be very refreshing if the only games the Cowboys won for the rest of the year would be against the Iggles. Watch it unfold as your snake-bitten franchise gets swept by Dallas AND Washington.

[SirClintonPortis]

I am nervous about the Eagles. Very nervous.

[mboyd784]

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_xoBIPoObedw/SVtKwo-xAXI/AAAAAAAADI0/WiLgpkpgUwI/s400/dead-eagle02.JPG

[JesseNeckred]

I wouldn't bow down to the Eagles if they were 8-0

[Rudechain]

The question is. Will Westy be traveling on Monday?

[ABSTRACT]

lmao got damn ya'll tore that Eagles fan up. He didn't have ****** to say lmao

[KDawg]

Just so you guys know, the Eagles get a 3rd rounder if he makes the ProBowl this year. There is a huge campaign on all the Eagles message boards to vote him in, even though his performance says he shouldn't even be a starter in the NFL anymore. :laugh:

Unfortunately for you, the fan voting is only part of the vote. If he's as bad as you say he is, there's no chance the players/coaches vote him in.

Although, I do give Iggle fans credit for doing what they can to help their team.

[DCranon21]

TK is it cool to bump this thread for the rest of the year if the Beagles go down Monday Night.

[Riggo#44]

...even though his performance says he shouldn't even be a starter in the NFL anymore. :laugh:

Just an FYI, his hand-picked replacement ISN'T a starter in the league anymore...You know, the last thread you started before he burst into flames and imploded against Tennessee?

[illone]

Did you bow down to the Skins when we whooped you guys last time?

Didn't think so.

:ols:

[pointyfootball]

Unfortunately for you, the fan voting is only part of the vote. If he's as bad as you say he is, there's no chance the players/coaches vote him in.

Although, I do give Iggle fans credit for doing what they can to help their team.

Unless the top 2-3 QBs are injured, no way he gets in. As of right now, I would put him behind: ARodgers, Brees, Eli Manning, Matt Ryan, and even Josh Freeman. Vick/Kolb could be ahead but don't have enough starting time.

If DM lights it up on Monday night (good possibility given his past post-"I'm hurt" play), it would make a big difference in how he's perceived as it's on national TV.

[pointyfootball]

TK is it cool to bump this thread for the rest of the year if the Beagles go down Monday Night.

It'll be bumped everytime they lose, even if they blow out the skins.

[KDawg]

Unless the top 2-3 QBs are injured, no way he gets in. As of right now, I would put him behind: ARodgers, Brees, Eli Manning, Matt Ryan, and even Josh Freeman. Vick/Kolb could be ahead but don't have enough starting time.

If DM lights it up on Monday night (good possibility given his past post-"I'm hurt" play), it would make a big difference in how he's perceived as it's on national TV.

I agree with you. there's no chance he makes it. So his point that the Eagles forums are campaigning to get him in looks kind of stupid. But again, I do give credit where credit is due. The Eagle fans are doing the only thing they can to secure a better draft pick.

[Tweedr01]

The question is. Will Westy be traveling on Monday?

That sir is the correct question, but don't forget Tuesday because this is a monday night game.


lmao got damn ya'll tore that Eagles fan up. He didn't have ****** to say lmao

he never does, unless its to backtrack something he said previously, or make excuses (he learned well from the puke fans)


Just an FYI, his hand-picked replacement ISN'T a starter in the league anymore...You know, the last thread you started before he burst into flames and imploded against Tennessee?

HAHAHAHAHAHA, this is QFT, my man Riggo is spot on. This joke of a franchise is only a step behind the pukes. There should be a choking hazard warning when signing up to be a bird fan just like they do with the happy meal toys. westys bff Vick will end his career as a bird and corncob will be shipped off to Arizona or Minnesota for picks. This is one of those 'don't respond' times where westy won't even acknowledge that kolb isn't the starter, his mancrush for Vick is at it's highest point ever and they may end up having a party together in BFE or wherever westy is hiding out these days only to have it broken up by one of Vick's or westys previous dog fighting partners.

Face it, this dude creates threads for our entertainment, he is nothing more than a look at me, look at me attention whore. If the birds lose westy is gone, and when the birds win he's able to post as much as he wants "9 hours behind schedule", but in fact his last post is at 11:30PM our time. I laugh at everything he says because it all eventually blows up in his face and he disappears so he can cry in Vick's lap. Lol, enjoy your excuses westy, you are only a couple more off from being labeled a puke fan.

[KingGibbs]

Hey westy. Tell all of your comrades happy vets day. You? **** yourself.

[Number5]

I hate the Eagles fans. They're nothing but classless losers. You suck.

WOW....that's not nice!

[Tweedr01]

WOW....that's not nice!

lol, but it is funny. i treat iggles fans the same way i was taught to treat a bad situation: hope for the best, prepare for the worst.

[dockeryfan]

lol, but it is funny. i treat all iggles fans the same way
With large doses of Valtrex?

j/k N5

[Tweedr01]

With large doses of Valtrex?

j/k N5

HAHAHAHA....just to be clear thats the herpes medicine on tv all the time right?

[pjfootballer]

Just so you guys know, the Eagles get a 3rd rounder if he makes the ProBowl this year. There is a huge campaign on all the Eagles message boards to vote him in, even though his performance says he shouldn't even be a starter in the NFL anymore. :laugh:

Vote away. It only counts 1/3 of the total votes.

[ArmchairRedskin]

Threads like these should have the NFL look into revoking the rights of Eagles fans to vote for the Pro Bowl altogether

[jflow78]

I've got a friend that's an Eagles fan and completely hates Eagles fans because of the bad reputation they give themselves. I completely agree, Eagles fans are the douchiest douche bags there ever were.

Honestly, I'd rather talk with a Cowboy fan than an Eagles fan. I hate the Cowboy's team, not their fans as much. With the Eagles, I actually like some of the guys on the team, I like their coach and think he's a fantastic coach, but the fans can die of gonorrhea and rot in hell. <------- Westbroke36

It's okay, you don't seem to understand that most of us don't care if your team has a great regular season, because we know you won't be winning a SB, so why bother make a big deal out of small stuff (cough cough, regular season records). You have fun with that, it's easy for someone who's only achieved mediocrity to be satisfied with less than the best. I would assume that's why you're an Eagles fan.

At least Dallas fans have known success, you guys have just known sub-par excellence. But, why stop preening when there's so much average to be celebrated.

Have fun with that. :thumbsup:

[Hitman21ST]

If I had a nickle for every Super Bowl Philly has won, I would have zero nickles.

[Tweedr01]

I've got a friend that's an Eagles fan and completely hates Eagles fans because of the bad reputation they give themselves. I completely agree, Eagles fans are the douchiest douche bags there ever were.

Honestly, I'd rather talk with a Cowboy fan than an Eagles fan. I hate the Cowboy's team, not their fans as much. With the Eagles, I actually like some of the guys on the team, I like their coach and think he's a fantastic coach, but the fans can die of gonorrhea and rot in hell. <------- Westbroke36

It's okay, you don't seem to understand that most of us don't care if your team has a great regular season, because we know you won't be winning a SB, so why bother make a big deal out of small stuff (cough cough, regular season records). You have fun with that, it's easy for someone who's only achieved mediocrity to be satisfied with less than the best. I would assume that's why you're an Eagles fan.

At least Dallas fans have known success, you guys have just known sub-par excellence. But, why stop preening when there's so much average to be celebrated.

Have fun with that. :thumbsup:

oh....snap....that hurt me and I'm a skins fan, that's not even a fair assessment. that's just downright mean, lol....but nonetheless still true

[Westbrook36]

If I had a nickle for every Super Bowl Philly has won, I would have zero nickles.

Hitman, that is awesome, bro. Considering that you were still wearing pajamas with the feet sewn in the last time the Skins were relevant makes it 100x more awesome.

[Tweedr01]

If I had a nickle for every Super Bowl Philly has won, I would have zero nickles.

so what you're trying to say is....who cares? lol

[Westbrook36]

This is my favorite part of the season. Early in the season, Skins fans will try to debate with you that their team is better than the Eagles.

After a certain point, realization sets in and all they can come back with is "But you won't beat ____ in the playoffs!" or talk about past Superbowls.

I love this exact moment. If we weren't on computers, I'd be able to see the look of defeat on all of your faces.

[Hitman21ST]

Hitman, that is awesome, bro. Considering that you were still wearing pajamas with the feet sewn in the last time the Skins were relevant makes it 100x more awesome.

At least I've been alive to see the Skins get a ring...

Considering you weren't alive when the Eagles last saw an NFL championship makes it even more awesome. And depending on how you define relevant (which probably would be doing something in the playoffs) that would make it 1999. But you don't need to worry about that, do you? After all, you have all those years of not making the Super Bowl to be proud of.

On a side note, Westy, Semper Fi and in case I'm not on tomorrow, Happy Birthday.

[Westbrook36]

I will concede that you were alive, HM. Right after the Skins won the big game, your mommy heated some milk up for you and tucked you into bed. That must have been an awesome night for you.

[Rudechain]

Hitman, that is awesome, bro. Considering that you were still wearing pajamas with the feet sewn in the last time the Skins were relevant makes it 100x more awesome.

But the question is, will you be on this board come Tuesday or will you be traveling again?

[Hitman21ST]

I will concede that you were alive, HM. Right after the Skins won the big game, your mommy heated some milk up for you and tucked you into bed. That must have been an awesome night for you.

That's nice and all. What were you doing the last time the Eagles won a championship?

[thebluefood]

Hitman, that is awesome, bro. Considering that you were still wearing pajamas with the feet sewn in the last time the Skins were relevant makes it 100x more awesome.

I'm sure you can remember the 1960 World Championship like it was yesterday, eh?

[Tweedr01]

This is my favorite part of the season. Early in the season, Skins fans will try to debate with you that their team is better than the Eagles.

After a certain point, realization sets in and all they can come back with is "But you won't beat ____ in the playoffs!" or talk about past Superbowls.

I love this exact moment. If we weren't on computers, I'd be able to see the look of defeat on all of your faces.

See I told you he wouldn't respond to me, how can you respond when you have nothing to say? Westy quickly changes the subject at 1:21PM our time when he can't actually backup what he says, lol. And since he is 9 hours behind is it 10:21PM their time? Isn't that past your bedtime little guy? Or are you too busy out partying it up with your mancrush Vick? Pretty convenient....

I think it his hilarious that you change the subject, so now you're arguing about peoples ages? Good lawdy this man/woman can't stay on topic, it's alright their sport, if you ain't got something to keep the debate up you can just do what you do after you lose....disappear

EDIT: Dangit, why do all ya'll post stuff I wanna quote after I get done posting? This is my multiquote for you guys: I agree!

[thebluefood]

See I told you he wouldn't respond to me, how can you respond when you have nothing to say? Westy quickly changes the subject at 1:21PM our time when he can't actually backup what he says, lol. And since he is 9 hours behind is it 10:21PM their time? Isn't that past your bedtime little guy? Or are you too busy out partying it up with your mancrush Vick? Pretty convenient....

I think it his hilarious that you change the subject, so now you're arguing about peoples ages? Good lawdy this man/woman can't stay on topic, it's alright their sport, if you ain't got something to keep the debate up you can just do what you do after you lose....disappear

He's a guy...and he looks like Kenny Bania.

[RansomthePasserby]

This is my favorite part of the season. Early in the season, Skins fans will try to debate with you that their team is better than the Eagles.

After a certain point, realization sets in and all they can come back with is "But you won't beat ____ in the playoffs!" or talk about past Superbowls.

I love this exact moment. If we weren't on computers, I'd be able to see the look of defeat on all of your faces.

I'm looking forward to bumping this when we blow you guys out Monday night.

[Westbrook36]

See I told you he wouldn't respond to me, how can you respond when you have nothing to say? Westy quickly changes the subject at 1:21PM our time when he can't actually backup what he says, lol. And since he is 9 hours behind is it 10:21PM their time? Isn't that past your bedtime little guy? Or are you too busy out partying it up with your mancrush Vick? Pretty convenient....

I think it his hilarious that you change the subject, so now you're arguing about peoples ages? Good lawdy this man/woman can't stay on topic, it's alright their sport, if you ain't got something to keep the debate up you can just do what you do after you lose....disappear

EDIT: Dangit, why do all ya'll post stuff I wanna quote after I get done posting? This is my multiquote for you guys: I agree!

I'm 9 hours ahead of you. Your lack of reading comprehension hampers your ability to make a rational argument.

Also, I continually keep hearing you say I don't post after losses, which is patently false. I don't post immediately after wins or losses as I have posted the reason why. However, look at the history; I always post within 24 hours......normally the night after a win or loss; about noon your time as I am several hours ahead of you and work all day. It past 10pm where I am at. Hope this clears up the strawman argument you keep posting ad nauseum.

[pointyfootball]

Hitman, that is awesome, bro. Considering that you were still wearing pajamas with the feet sewn in the last time the Skins were relevant makes it 100x more awesome.

I loved those pajamas. You could get a running start and slide the entire length of our cheap-linoleoumed kitchen floor on those things.

[Tweedr01]

I'm 9 hours ahead of you. Your lack of reading comprehension hampers your ability to make a rational argument.

Also, I continually keep hearing you say I don't post after losses, which is patently false. I don't post immediately after wins or losses as I have posted the reason why. However, look at the history; I always post within 24 hours......normally the night after a win or loss; about noon your time as I am several hours ahead of you and work all day. It past 10pm where I am at. Hope this clears up the strawman argument you keep posting ad nauseum.

Uh....if you read what you quoted of mine I went ahead and did the addition for your 'time difference' because you are 'working'. I don't need to go looking through posts and threads and forums to prove what everyone already knows about your 'work' and posting history. Again, this is you not even arguing the topic, going completely off topic because you have nothing to say. Why don't you respond to everything else I've posted in this thread? Is it because you have no idea? That's what I'll continue to believe because obviously you can't argue anything I'm saying....go ahead and continue

[pointyfootball]

So how do skins fans feel about this game? Seriously. Confident? They really should win this game. At home, coming off of a bye (rested/healthy), against a team they handled earlier in the season. Do fans feel that way or does all that mean nothing?

For some reason I think the Eagles will do ok. Skins not having Banks should make it easier on coverage teams, and they've actually played pretty well on the road this season, minus the Britt Meltdown. Definitely will be a close game, IMO, unless one of the QBs were to completely fall apart, which I don't see happening. Should be fun.

[Riggo#44]

I will concede that you were alive, HM. Right after the Skins won the big game, your mommy heated some milk up for you and tucked you into bed. That must have been an awesome night for you.

Redskins: 18 seasons since winning a championship
Eagles: 50...

God I am so GREEN with envy...you got me there. Good call Westy. Right up there with your best work: the thread you started right before the last Skins-Iggles game, the Kolb thread...you are on a winning streak such as the Eagles franchise has never seen.

[Tweedr01]

So how do skins fans feel about this game? Seriously. Confident? They really should win this game. At home, coming off of a bye (rested/healthy), against a team they handled earlier in the season. Do fans feel that way or does all that mean nothing?

For some reason I think the Eagles will do ok. Skins not having Banks should make it easier on coverage teams, and they've actually played pretty well on the road this season, minus the Britt Meltdown. Definitely will be a close game, IMO, unless one of the QBs were to completely fall apart, which I don't see happening. Should be fun.

Stop acting like a rational birds fan, we don't want to have to agree on something now do we?


Redskins: 18 seasons since winning a championship
Eagles: 50...

God I am so GREEN with envy...you got me there. Good call Westy. Right up there with your best work: the thread you started right before the last Skins-Iggles game, the Kolb thread...you are on a winning streak such as the Eagles franchise has never seen.

Wait wait wait.....50? When did the birds win anything of consequence?

[Homercles82]

Redskins: 18 seasons since winning a championship
Eagles: 50...

God I am so GREEN with envy...you got me there. Good call Westy. Right up there with your best work: the thread you started right before the last Skins-Iggles game, the Kolb thread...you are on a winning streak such as the Eagles franchise has never seen.

But they have been relavent for the last 10 years while winning NFC CHAMPIONSHIPS! NFC CHAMPIONSHIPS COUNT RIGHT!?!?! EAGLES FLY HIGH!!!!!!! WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Westbrook is making excuses for his team that is about to get it's ass beaten on Monday night in front of the free world.

[Homercles82]

I will concede that you were alive, HM. Right after the Skins won the big game, your mommy heated some milk up for you and tucked you into bed. That must have been an awesome night for you.

Right after the Eagles lost the big game did you punch your self in the face? After you went to 5 NFC championship games but could never get over the hump and actually win something meaningful did you kick a puppy? What are you going to do when E:60 does a show about how the Eagles of the 2000's were the best that never was?

[Riggo#44]

But they have been relavent for the last 10 years while winning one (1) NFC CHAMPIONSHIP! One (1) NFC CHAMPIONSHIPS COUNT RIGHT!?!?! EAGLES FLY HIGH!!!!!!! WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Westbrook is making excuses for his team that is about to get it's ass beaten on Monday night in front of the free world.

Fixed for you. :)

[Homercles82]

Fixed for you. :)

Whoops my fart. I am on a sugar rush.

As of right now the Eagles are known as the team who could win everything but the big game. I love it.

[Tweedr01]

Whoops my fart. I am on a sugar rush.

As of right now the Eagles are known as the team who could win everything but the big game. I love it.

You know.....that sounds a lot like the puke teams of recent too....maybe we could combine the two teams into one big douchey team nickname?

[#98QBKiller]

I'm sure you can remember the 1960 World Championship like it was yesterday, eh?

He wasn't even daddy's lil' squirt yet.

[RedskinsNation]

Im still worried.....I havent seen a EAGLES WILL DEMOLISH THE REDSKINS BY 21 + POINTS thread yet.

Once that happens, I will feel like things are normal.

Please drum up one of them threads.....it will be a formality the Skins will win at that point.

Im waiting.........

[TotalRecall]

I wouldn't get so cocky. You still have 5 division games to go and are one game behind the G-boys. Not to mention that your guys play us next and we may or may-not win, but we will at least pound the hell out of your players. No Michael Vick and you guys are just an average team.

[Number5]

With large doses of Valtrex?

j/k N5

Hey Dock...I see that mothing and everything has changed! I miss you guys! I promise to be up here more, but with all this new stuff going on with ATT, its crazy....you get your tree yet?

[thebluefood]

So how do skins fans feel about this game? Seriously. Confident? They really should win this game. At home, coming off of a bye (rested/healthy), against a team they handled earlier in the season. Do fans feel that way or does all that mean nothing?

For some reason I think the Eagles will do ok. Skins not having Banks should make it easier on coverage teams, and they've actually played pretty well on the road this season, minus the Britt Meltdown. Definitely will be a close game, IMO, unless one of the QBs were to completely fall apart, which I don't see happening. Should be fun.

Honestly, I'm not sure which Redskins team is gonna show up. It's probably going to go down to the last 2 minutes of the game. If our offense decides to play, then it'll be a shoot out and hopefully, our DBs will be able to stop the deep ball that Michael Vick can throw now, apparently.

If we can get to Vick again, it will be a long day for the boys in Green.

[RansomthePasserby]

So how do skins fans feel about this game? Seriously. Confident? They really should win this game. At home, coming off of a bye (rested/healthy), against a team they handled earlier in the season. Do fans feel that way or does all that mean nothing?

We're coming off a buy week, our guys are rested, we've had two weeks to game plan. Yeah, I'm actually feeling pretty confident about Monday night.

[pjfootballer]

I've got a friend that's an Eagles fan and completely hates Eagles fans because of the bad reputation they give themselves. I completely agree, Eagles fans are the douchiest douche bags there ever were.

Honestly, I'd rather talk with a Cowboy fan than an Eagles fan. I hate the Cowboy's team, not their fans as much. With the Eagles, I actually like some of the guys on the team, I like their coach and think he's a fantastic coach, but the fans can die of gonorrhea and rot in hell. <------- Westbroke36

It's okay, you don't seem to understand that most of us don't care if your team has a great regular season, because we know you won't be winning a SB, so why bother make a big deal out of small stuff (cough cough, regular season records). You have fun with that, it's easy for someone who's only achieved mediocrity to be satisfied with less than the best. I would assume that's why you're an Eagles fan.

At least Dallas fans have known success, you guys have just known sub-par excellence. But, why stop preening when there's so much average to be celebrated.

Have fun with that. :thumbsup:

Not to mention the fact that in the history of the NFC East the Redskins, Giants and Cowboys have brought home a trophy. Other than the Cardinals, there is one team that isn't holding up their end of the bargain.

[SkinsHokieFan]

Westbrook36 still not telling me what size Vick jersey he wants

I don't think WB36 has amused me anymore then he is in this thread.

All those years of bashing Vick, and he shows up to start this thread because of what Michael Vick has done for his team :ols:

Yes WB36, you are cheering for Michael Vick. The Michael Vick, number 7, formerly of the Atlanta Falcons, formerly of Virginia Tech

:ols: :ols: :ols:

Seriously, can we change this to "bow down to the greatness of Michael Vick?"

Because the Eagles are 3-5 without him

[Rey]

http://img517.imageshack.us/img517/2681/phillyo.jpg

[Tom [Giants fan]]

I am definitely rooting for the Redskins this week. The Giants could deliver the knockout blow to Philly if they beat Dallas this week.

[fullnelson9999]

I was saying he had a good game. Don't think I was bowing down. He had every right to be pissed, although could have done without the histrionics.

I was talking to Westbrook, not you.

[pointyfootball]

;7953007']I am definitely rooting for the Redskins this week. The Giants could deliver the knockout blow to Philly if they beat Dallas this week.

Wouldn't be a knockout unless Giants beat Philly next week. Philly loses to Skins & Giants they're at 5-5 while Giants are at 8-2, which would be insurmountable lead (for division) with only 6 games left. I don't believe Philly loses two NFC East games in a row though at this stage of the season.

I actually think, as well (maybe wishful?) that Cowboys are going to beat the Giants this weekend.

[paloosa]

Give me a break. The only time we here your praise of the Eagles is just before we play you guys and the last time we heard from you was just before we beat your Eagles. So if I were you I wouldn't say that your Eagles are great just before a meeting with the Redskins since it didn't turn out good the last time. Enjoy your time in Bahrain because come Monday night you will go away into your shell again like you did the last time.

[Henry]

Be honest. Doesn't it suck that every single year in which you guys hype up your team and talk about how terrible the Eagles are going to be because of ____ always winds up with you guys deeply wishing your team's situation was reversed with them?

We are wishing we need a win on the road against a team coming off a bye to avoid a sweep and falling to third in the division? No. I don't really wish for that.


This is my favorite part of the season. Early in the season, Skins fans will try to debate with you that their team is better than the Eagles.

After a certain point, realization sets in and all they can come back with is "But you won't beat ____ in the playoffs!" or talk about past Superbowls.

I love this exact moment. If we weren't on computers, I'd be able to see the look of defeat on all of your faces.

Well, since you can't, here's an example of what defeat looks like over the internet:


Good game, Skins fans.

I had to catch a plane this morning to Saudi because I work for a living.

Anyway, what a disappointing game. Disappointing in the way that we played a horrible team in the Skins and somehow found a way to lose.

Fact- Every point you scored was set up by a blown coverage or mistake by the Eagles.

Well, that is part of the game and you found a way to benefit from dubious official calls and a horrible gameplan from the Eagles.

This thread is still correct. Your season was ended yesterday just like the Eagles. Let me get one Skins fan who actually believes the playoffs are in the future. You guys are terrible like we are.

And you are correct. That was exquisite.

[rockfan7224]

God, suddenly Vick is back and the Eagles beat a team by 2 points that we lost to by 3 and now they're the best ****ing team in the NFL! And people wonder why I hate the Eagles and their fans. Give me a break.........

Do people forget that WE already beat the Eagles once this season and WE were the reason Vick was out for a few weeks?!?1?

[pointyfootball]

Do people forget that WE already beat the Eagles once this season and WE were the reason Vick was out for a few weeks?!?1?

Refs gave you all that game.

[pointyfootball]

Refs gave you all that game.

JUST kidding! :)

[Fresh8686]

The eagles look like whats floating in my toilet bowl after eating a bunch of spinach.

[dockeryfan]

Henry that was great.

Every play was a result of blown coverage. That sums up his football brain right there. And the refs. Fantastic. Then he says the skins are terrible like the Eagles. Oh wait...we have to bow? Let me check the wind here...Yup smells like Bania.

Honestly, Vick looked terrible before he got hurt in that game, and it's just a few weeks removed. I don't know about the offense, but I feel pretty good about the defense.

[SAP_Pete]

Let's just make another dog killer sandwich like in the first game, and the Iggles fans will calm right down.

[HapHaszard]

I love it when Westy comes in with his hype thread because the Eagles loose that week and we are playing them. Thank you Westy

[Tom [Giants fan]]

Wouldn't be a knockout unless Giants beat Philly next week.

I know I didn't make that clear but that is what I meant.

[Merlin Emrys]

Just so you guys know, the Eagles get a 3rd rounder if he makes the ProBowl this year. There is a huge campaign on all the Eagles message boards to vote him in, even though his performance says he shouldn't even be a starter in the NFL anymore. :laugh:

Just so you know, the Iggles fan base is way too small to ever make this happen. Outside of the pig troth called Philly, no one cares about the Iggles draft picks. Your campaign is, quoting McNabb, "Hilarious!"

[Westbrook36]

Normalcy has been restored to the NFC East. It is mid November and the Skins are in the highlights for all the wrong reasons while the Eagles are yet again competing for the division title. What was the name of that truck that just smacked you in the mouth? 59 points!!!! Most points in NFL history on Monday night. We probably could have put 80 on you if we didn't let off the gas. Thank god you resigned McNabb! 3 more INTs including a pick six. Awesome. This deal of overpaying for old former talent reminds me of Jeff George, Deion Sanders and Bruce Smith. Dock, still think you won that trade?

Man, it must have been awesomw watching first play of the game and watching Jackson, who some of you spent 21 pages trying to convince yourselves that he was average, run right by your entire defense.

Bow down. Bow down. As a matter of fact, everyone stand up where you are at now and give the Philadelphia Eagles a standing ovation. They deserve it.

[Boss_Hogg]

Normalcy has been restored to the NFC East. It is mid November and the Skins are in the highlights for all the wrong reasons while the Eagles are yet again competing for the division title. What was the name of that truck that just smacked you in the mouth? 59 points!!!! Most points in NFL history on Monday night. We probably could have put 80 on you if we didn't let off the gas. Thank god you resigned McNabb! 3 more INTs including a pick six. Awesome. This deal of overpaying for old former talent reminds me of Jeff George, Deion Sanders and Bruce Smith. Dock, still think you won that trade?

Man, it must have been awesomw watching first play of the game and watching Jackson, who some of you spent 21 pages trying to convince yourselves that he was average, run right by your entire defense.

Bow down. Bow down. As a matter of fact, everyone stand up where you are at now and give the Philadelphia Eagles a standing ovation. They deserve it.

win a Lombardi, then I will show respect.

[Rdskns2000]

Normalcy has been restored to the NFC East. It is mid November and the Skins are in the highlights for all the wrong reasons while the Eagles are yet again competing for the division title. What was the name of that truck that just smacked you in the mouth? 59 points!!!! Most points in NFL history on Monday night. We probably could have put 80 on you if we didn't let off the gas. Thank god you resigned McNabb! 3 more INTs including a pick six. Awesome. This deal of overpaying for old former talent reminds me of Jeff George, Deion Sanders and Bruce Smith. Dock, still think you won that trade?

Man, it must have been awesomw watching first play of the game and watching Jackson, who some of you spent 21 pages trying to convince yourselves that he was average, run right by your entire defense.

Bow down. Bow down. As a matter of fact, everyone stand up where you are at now and give the Philadelphia Eagles a standing ovation. They deserve it.

Congrads on the win. That's all your getting. If your Eagles win the Superbowl, then maybe you'll get a bow down. I'll probably just throw up. The Iggles have to make to the superbowl and win it; so it's way to early.

[Warhead36]

It's great that Westy doesn't have to go to Saudi Arabia or wherever when Philly wins.

Whatever. Congrats on the win. The Eagles destroyed us on every level and Vick might be the MVP of the league.

[Rskins91]

Normalcy has been restored to the NFC East. It is mid November and the Skins are in the highlights for all the wrong reasons while the Eagles are yet again competing for the division title. What was the name of that truck that just smacked you in the mouth? 59 points!!!! Most points in NFL history on Monday night. We probably could have put 80 on you if we didn't let off the gas. Thank god you resigned McNabb! 3 more INTs including a pick six. Awesome. This deal of overpaying for old former talent reminds me of Jeff George, Deion Sanders and Bruce Smith. Dock, still think you won that trade?

Man, it must have been awesomw watching first play of the game and watching Jackson, who some of you spent 21 pages trying to convince yourselves that he was average, run right by your entire defense.

Bow down. Bow down. As a matter of fact, everyone stand up where you are at now and give the Philadelphia Eagles a standing ovation. They deserve it.

The only person I'll give kudos to is Michael Vick. He seemed unstoppable tonight.

However... McNabb is still an improvement from Campbell, and the Skins still got rid of Vinny Cerrato, the biggest reason we were horrible throughout the years. We have holes, and we're average to mediocre. McNabb is a stopgap to give us a QB who has won a lot of games who can groom a young QB we draft later.

Tell you what Westbrook. You win this round. But, keep an eye on this thread. In 2-3 years, the Redskins under Mike Shanahan will be a competitive team that will start to challenge for the NFC East crown. Laugh all you want now, and enjoy your win. But if you deny the Redskins haven't become a better team than they were last year, then you are ignoring a lot of change.

[twist]

Tell you what Westbrook. You win this round. But, keep an eye on this thread. In 2-3 years, the Redskins under Mike Shanahan will be a competitive team that will start to challenge for the NFC East crown. Laugh all you want now, and enjoy your win. But if you deny the Redskins haven't become a better team than they were last year, then you are ignoring a lot of change.

The problem with that is that the Eagles are exceptionally young and the Redskins have been stop gapping for years and unwilling to rebuild.

If the Redskins use the next three drafts to build decent offensive and defensive lines what your saying will be true.

[hail2skins]

Tell you what Westbrook. You win this round. But, keep an eye on this thread. In 2-3 years, the Redskins under Mike Shanahan will be a competitive team that will start to challenge for the NFC East crown. Laugh all you want now, and enjoy your win. But if you deny the Redskins haven't become a better team than they were last year, then you are ignoring a lot of change.

Marginally better. I think we were 3-6 at this point last year; now we're 4-5. Whoopdee doo. Still vast voids of talent that even an experienced HOF-bound coach can't overcome. And while Zorn's teams got their butts kicked at the end last year and had the "swinging gate" embarrassment, we didn't experience anything on the level of tonight. FITTY NINE!!!!!!!

I'm not giving up on the season yet and agree that Shanahan should succeed here in the long run. But tonight, the Eagles definitely deserve to gloat......this was a butt whipping of the highest magnitude.

[SirClintonPortis]

To my credit, my nervousness about the Eagles was indeed justified.

[thesubmittedone]

Surprise, surprise, WB36 just happens to NOT be on leave or whatever else excuse he has after we beat the Eagles. Good timing for you, huh, Westy?

Enjoy this one. I have a feeling the Eagles are in for some humble pie real soon.

[dockeryfan]

What a dick. He's invisible all week, and shows up today.

If you were predicting a win all week, maybe you would get respect. Absent all weel, only to show up after a loss.

Bye bye, dick.

[Kapolani]

El oh el....

[Brotherz]

Oh, I'm done fighting. I bow. I am humbled. I am humiliated by my team again. By far the worst loss of my 34 years as a fan. Westy congrats. I think that elusive lombardi is on its way to philly too.

[pointyfootball]

I think last night was a "perfect storm" for the Skins. Has to be a lot of blame put on Haslett/Shanahan for not having their players "up" for that game considering they had 2 weeks to prepare. Giving up a TD for 88 yards on the first play of the game, 3 stupid running plays for a 3&out for the skins, and then the quick score to make it 14-0 shocked the Skins D and they let the Eagles offense dictate to them the rest of the game. Tough game for skins/fans. Good news for skins fans is I remember the Eagles destroying the 49ers (40-7 or something like that) @ Candlestick in the mid 90s and the niners went on to win the SB.

As an Iggle fan, I was torqued that they let McNabb look good with those two bombs to make it 35-14. I mean you are winning by 35 and you have to run the clock out for 45 minutes. WHO CARES if they get 10 yards a carry, don't give up anything deep. Play nickel defense every play. Fortunately Skins had no answer for Vick.

Vick/Eagles played well, but there's a lot of football left and I'm hoping they're not listening to all the knob gobbling going on. I do know that I hope the skins don't make the playoffs because I wouldn't want the Eagles to have to play them after tonight's game. Fletcher would probably decapitate someone.

[pointyfootball]

Oh, I'm done fighting. I bow. I am humbled. I am humiliated by my team again. By far the worst loss of my 34 years as a fan. Westy congrats. I think that elusive lombardi is on its way to philly too.

Dude don't bow...your team had an awful night but the Eagles have had plenty of them too. Understand being pissed, but you shouldn't have to give in to one of us opposition fan's trash talking. If you have no other reply, use the standard drunk answer: "F you".

The Skins will be fine this coming week and will play the Titans tough. No way Shanny doesn't have them up for this game. NFL players have a lot of pride, and nothing motivates them more than a loss like this.

The Eagles can be beat, and there are plenty of defenses out there that can put a lot of pressure on Vick, not to mention their D.

PF

[Chachie]

Normalcy has been restored to the NFC East.

Does normalcy mean no SB trophy for Philly this season? :)









Bow down. Bow down. As a matter of fact, everyone stand up where you are at now and give the Philadelphia Eagles a standing ovation. They deserve it.


I will. Dude is sick. He's even better at playing football than he is at murdering pets. :)

[HailGreen28]

The Eagles won by signing a guy who tortures pets. Congrats. That'll be the storyline if you win the SB this year, too.

[zoony]

It's amazing to see what an athlete like Vick is capable of when he needs capital for a startup crime ring. That offseason contract should get the wheels on that bus moving again- good for him.

What a performance, Eagles all of a sudden look like the team to beat in the NFC

[Riggo#44]

Normalcy has been restored to the NFC East. It is mid November and the Skins are in the highlights for all the wrong reasons while the Eagles are yet again competing for the division title. What was the name of that truck that just smacked you in the mouth? 59 points!!!! Most points in NFL history on Monday night. We probably could have put 80 on you if we didn't let off the gas. Thank god you resigned McNabb! 3 more INTs including a pick six. Awesome. This deal of overpaying for old former talent reminds me of Jeff George, Deion Sanders and Bruce Smith. Dock, still think you won that trade?

Man, it must have been awesomw watching first play of the game and watching Jackson, who some of you spent 21 pages trying to convince yourselves that he was average, run right by your entire defense.

Bow down. Bow down. As a matter of fact, everyone stand up where you are at now and give the Philadelphia Eagles a standing ovation. They deserve it.

Go polish your trophies...oh, wait....

You know I could sit here and make excuses about why we lost...like every point was from a blown assingment, or missed call, or some flimsy-assed excuse like that. But I am not an Eagles fan. I can actually give credit where credit is due. I am above things like booing Santa Claus, throwing batteries, intentionally vomiting on 11-year old girls (ok that was Phillies -- but I bet that jackwagon was an Eagles fan too), or cheering when someone breaks their neck.

You're a class act, Westy. :rolleyes:

[KDawg]

Congratulations, Eagles fan. Your team came to play football and played very well. Ours didn't. No hate from me. They were superior last night.

[dockeryfan]

every point was from a blown assingment, or missed call

Classic

[NomadicSkinFan]

I have no issues with the Eagles team. They were far superior last night and deserved the victory. But Eagles fans should feel damn lucky lawyers grow on trees and our society has successfully neutered survival of the fittest. Because the complete lack of self-control and class I witnessed last night were ridiculous. And it started 30 minutes BEFORE kickoff. I so regret not rocking the Eagle fan that sat behind me last night. If douchebags had a king... I defiinitely met him.

[Hunter44]

I want to see Vick go up a real defense...

[KDawg]

Man, guys... I love all my 'Skins fan brothers... But, let's just admit we ran into a much better, more prepared team last night. Wish our offense looked like that... And Avant and Cooper are their 3rd and 4th receivers! Good lord.

[authentic]

Are the Colts a good team? I think it is time you guys bow down and recognize the Eagles are a very good football team in a very weak NFL this year.

Times yours.

Yeah, perhaps when the Eagles get some hardware in the trophy case...

http://thelandryhat.com/files/2009/01/empty-case.jpg

[authentic]

... And Avant and Cooper are their 3rd and 4th receivers! Good lord.

I was thinking that as well. On our team they would probably be our #1 & #2 respectively.

[Brotherz]

Dude don't bow...your team had an awful night but the Eagles have had plenty of them too. Understand being pissed, but you shouldn't have to give in to one of us opposition fan's trash talking. If you have no other reply, use the standard drunk answer: "F you".

The Skins will be fine this coming week and will play the Titans tough. No way Shanny doesn't have them up for this game. NFL players have a lot of pride, and nothing motivates them more than a loss like this.

The Eagles can be beat, and there are plenty of defenses out there that can put a lot of pressure on Vick, not to mention their D.

PF

I livedin Philly for the last decade and a half since law school and recently moved home to Ashburn. I have so much crowe to eat today you have no idea. My holidays are going to be an absolute nightmare back in Cherry Hill NJ with my family. I am ashamed to be a skins fan today. But you're right. I probably shouldn't give a troll the pleasure on our board. Thanks for the pep talk bud. I am so glad to be a part of this board where I can always find guys who "get it".

[Boss_Hogg]

we'll see what happens when Vick plays a REAL defense.

[AllAboutSkins08]

Dude don't bow...your team had an awful night but the Eagles have had plenty of them too. Understand being pissed, but you shouldn't have to give in to one of us opposition fan's trash talking. If you have no other reply, use the standard drunk answer: "F you".

The Skins will be fine this coming week and will play the Titans tough. No way Shanny doesn't have them up for this game. NFL players have a lot of pride, and nothing motivates them more than a loss like this.

The Eagles can be beat, and there are plenty of defenses out there that can put a lot of pressure on Vick, not to mention their D.

PF

Agreed with most of this, but I have a hard time having confidence in the bolded part when after losing to the lions & being embarrassed for two weeks that we still weren't up for this game. How much more motivation do you need? Not saying the Skins will lose to the Titans, but I can't be confident that a loss like this will automatically motivate them when that's what was supposed to happen against the Eagles.

Having said that, **** the Eagles!

[IrepDC]

It will take a while before our team catches up to the Eagles. They have been a consistently competitive team the past decade. That's what we all hope for one day. And although they didn't win a Super Bowl in that span, they have continued to restock so the window doesn't look to be closing for them anytime soon. Hell, we are helping them restock by putting more young talent on their team while making our team older. I still don't see any real direction in this franchise. We should model our team after the Eagles, or Packers, or Steelers. Those teams will consistently be better than us, because they have totally different philosophies on how to BUILD a team. I know some people will point out that we beat two of those teams, but we were playing the Packers 2nd and 3rd stringers due to injury(and they were still very competitive because of their DEPTH), and the Eagles came back with a vengeance last night.

The Packers are releasing solid veterans like Al Harris because they have TOO MANY young talented CB's. The Steelers are trading away former Super Bowl MVP's while young guys are coming right in to fill the void. The Eagles just traded away their leader from the last 11 years for a starting young FS and another pick while they have Vick AND Kolb waiting in the wings.

Our team is in shambles.

[Shabby]

Typical, When eagles win, he shows up, when they don't, he is no where to be found. He was afraid all week that the redskins might beat the eagles, so he didnt say a word. Atleast be a man about it hahaha. All the matters:

Superbowls-
Redskins 3
Eagles 0

EDIT: BTW, you do realize you beat us the same number of times we beat you.... right?

[TD_washingtonredskins]

The Eagles, in year 11 or 12 of their regime are ahead of the Redskins in year 1 of theirs. Hands down. The Eagles are ready to compete for the playoffs this year and the Redskins don't seem to be. All in all, we split the season series with them.

Hopefully we are still playing for something in November and December in a year or two...I think we have to give the new front office and coaching staff some time to TRULY restore normalcy to the NFC East (Skins contending).

[WhoRUSupposed2Be]

Congradulations to Micahel Vick because he certainly was the heart and soul of that team last night.

It was amazing watching him not only to get that same sick feeling in my stomach about the 'Skins :(

BTW, **** you Westbrook ;)

[pointyfootball]

Man, guys... I love all my 'Skins fan brothers... But, let's just admit we ran into a much better, more prepared team last night. Wish our offense looked like that... And Avant and Cooper are their 3rd and 4th receivers! Good lord.

I've coached a lot of sports (travel soccer, basketball, flag football) from 5 y/os to high school aged and what happened last night can/does happen at any level, amateur to multi-million dollar paid professionals. Giving up that first touchdown and the 3 and out by the Skins just threw the whole team for such a loop they were reeling. Offensively it took them until the 2nd quarter to get their feet under them but it's like stopping to tie your shoes in a 1/2 mile race. There was no way they could catch up. Defensively, have to blame Haslett for that, as they never recovered. And, EVERYTHING went the Eagles way. EVERYTHING.

This week will be the week to find out if the Skins made a good choice in hiring Shanahan & trading for McNabb. He doesn't have to win, but he has to show he can rally the troops and motivate the team.

BTW, I applaud you for your approach. Eagles speed/execution coupled with the Skins extremely slow start put it out of reach quick. I understand fans despise Vick, and I think the actions deplorable, but I really question as to how much hate people can bottle up and not let go. The man admitted his wrongdoing, served his punishment, and by the looks of it has made a major change in his life. Understand he's on the Eagles and they are all that is "unholy", but people hoping that Vick would have his leg(s) broken really make me question THEIR true motivations.

[pointyfootball]

It will take a while before our team catches up to the Eagles.

Positives for skins roster is that they have some talent in important postions (LT, Pass rusher, Rodgers). I really question the McNabb trade (and other moves) unless they thought they could win this year, although I do understand that the NFL allows teams to improve significantly from one year to the next. Just seemed to me that new defense, new offense, new QB, new coaches and a bunch of new players would be a lot to overcome in the first year and expect to be competitive. Amazingly, except for 2 games they have been competitive, so that's impressive, IMO. Not sure how they can fill all the holes they need to with this upcoming offseason, but they must think they can, otherwise why the re-sign of DM?

I do think a RT, G, good WR and a LB or two to fit the system and the skins would be much more competitive. Lot to find/fill, but every team has holes/weaknesses.

[augster]

:D:D:D:beavisnbutthead:

[pjfootballer]

Nothing to say after that debacle. I mean, what can you say? We were destroyed. Worst beating in my 36 years as a fan. No excuses. We got our ass whooped. Maybe we'll win another SB, while I'm lying on my deathbed at age 80. I can see it now, Redskins kick the winning FG in the NFC Championship game, I die right there, then we win the SB and I'll never know it.

[RWJ]

If this type of thread were posted about the Redskins on the Eagle sight they would have closed/delete it.

[AzSkinsFan63]

Congrats on the butt whippin! Geez!

[bih]

if Vick goes down so do the eagles. I so hope he ends up in wheelchair after giants game, im sorry but I hate rich people get second chances all the time and regular folks get a life sentance for less! If they win SB with him on helm I will never watch NFL again!

[JesseNeckred]

I still wouldn't bow down to them ;)

[pointyfootball]

if Vick goes down so do the eagles. I so hope he ends up in wheelchair after giants game, im sorry but I hate rich people get second chances all the time and regular folks get a life sentance for less! If they win SB with him on helm I will never watch NFL again!

Don't be sorry for having no class...it is what it is. As much as skins/other fans say Philly fans have no class, the number of "I hope DJ or MV has his legs broken" on this site is appalling. It's a freaking game. For entertainment. No one gets their birthday taken away if their team loses.

Rich people ALWAYS get second/more chances. Always have, always will. Life's unfair.

[pointyfootball]

I still wouldn't bow down to them ;)

That's the ticket!

[bird_1972]

Eagles have to be a favorite to win the NFC based on this game. Not because the Skins are a contender (we aren't) but because of the total dominance of Vick and the victory over the Colts.

There is not a team in the NFC (and perhaps the NFL) that looks as good right now.

[Silverlude311]

If this type of thread were posted about the Redskins on the Eagle sight they would have closed/delete it.


There is a thread on the EMB dedicated to the skins...

[pjfootballer]

I still wouldn't bow down to them ;)

Maybe bend over so he can kiss my ass!

[pjfootballer]

Eagles have to be a favorite to win the NFC based on this game. Not because the Skins are a contender (we aren't) but because of the total dominance of Vick and the victory over the Colts.

There is not a team in the NFC (and perhaps the NFL) that looks as good right now.

And who will be the flavor the week next Tuesday? This paragraph seems to change week to week.

[Popeman38]

Eagles have to be a favorite to win the NFC based on this game. Not because the Skins are a contender (we aren't) but because of the total dominance of Vick and the victory over the Colts.

There is not a team in the NFC (and perhaps the NFL) that looks as good right now.Umm, the New England Patriots? Tom Brady DESTROYED the vaunted Steelers D on SNF. 30-43, 350 yds, 3 tds passing, 1-3, 3 yds, 1 TDs rushing. Vick put up his numbers on the statistically worst D in the league. Brady put his numbers up against a top 10 statistical D.

[TheItalianStallion]

Eagles have to be a favorite to win the NFC based on this game. Not because the Skins are a contender (we aren't) but because of the total dominance of Vick and the victory over the Colts.

There is not a team in the NFC (and perhaps the NFL) that looks as good right now.Weren't some folks saying similar things about the Falcons less than a week ago?

[pointyfootball]

Eagles have to be a favorite to win the NFC based on this game. Not because the Skins are a contender (we aren't) but because of the total dominance of Vick and the victory over the Colts.

There is not a team in the NFC (and perhaps the NFL) that looks as good right now.

Up until the Cowboys game, I thought the Giants did. Better lines on both sides of the ball and they were playing great defense.

Philly has two very difficult games coming up which will give everyone a sense of how good the team is when they are complete. Chicago's Defense (will get 10 days to prepare for the Eagles) right after Giants D will give a sense as to whether Vick can continue to put up good numbers. I take Monday's game as a once-in-a-decade fluke. Everything dropped right for the Eagles. Unrealistic to expect them to continue that.

[dockeryfan]

Up until the Cowboys game, I thought the Giants did. Better lines on both sides of the ball and they were playing great defense.

Philly has two very difficult games coming up which will give everyone a sense of how good the team is when they are complete. Chicago's Defense (will get 10 days to prepare for the Eagles) right after Giants D will give a sense as to whether Vick can continue to put up good numbers. I take Monday's game as a once-in-a-decade fluke. Everything dropped right for the Eagles. Unrealistic to expect them to continue that.
I agree with most of that. Teams get blown out. It doesn't mean one is phenomenal and one is a scrub, it just means on that day, the game was over before it started.

Giants I still think are the team to beat, even with the loss to Dal.

[pjfootballer]

Weren't some folks saying similar things about the Falcons less than a week ago?

And the Giants the week before, and the Saints the week before and the Cowboys at the beginning of the season.

[thesubmittedone]

I will not, for one moment, believe the Eagles have a Super Bowl team. They've got a team in which their greatest weapon (Vick) and their other biggest weapon (Jackson) can get injured at any moment with just the simplest of tackles. Vick plays like he doesn't care about that, which is courageous I guess but the very reason he's not reliable. Jackson, on the other hand, is a little girl and only acts hard after catching a ball in stride for a TD. When he got hit cleanly by friggin DeAngelo Hall (yes, Hall who is not much bigger than he is, lol) on a screen pass he laid on the floor for like an extra couple seconds reeling.

So a team who's greatest threat are two offensive weapons that are huge risks in terms of injury every game they play and a defense absolutely no one is scared of is not to be feared in my mind. Now, if they can manage to stay healthy and have games where absolutely everything goes their way in the 1st Quarter and Reid totally out-schemes a defense, then yeah, they're scary. Otherwise, they'll probably win enough games to make the playoffs until they run into an actual championship caliber Defense.

[Tom [Giants fan]]

Giants I still think are the team to beat, even with the loss to Dal.

Injuries are piling up. Add Webster and Andrews to the growing list. Will Beatty may be starting at LT against the Eagles. :doh:

[dockeryfan]

I will not, for one moment, believe the Eagles have a Super Bowl team. They've got a team in which their greatest weapon (Vick) and their other biggest weapon (Jackson) can get injured at any moment with just the simplest of tackles.

Well this is just nuts. Any team can lose a star player and lose contention.

Complain about their O line. Complain about their depleted secondary. Complain about the complete lack of discipline the team has shown this year with penalties. Complain about the historical coaching gaffes that Reid makes year after year. Those are reasons they won't win a championship. But complaining that their star QB will get hurt? Come on.

[thesubmittedone]

Well this is just nuts. Any team can lose a star player and lose contention.

Complain about their O line. Complain about their depleted secondary. Complain about the complete lack of discipline the team has shown this year with penalties. Complain about the historical coaching gaffes that Reid makes year after year. Those are reasons they won't win a championship. But complaining that their star QB will get hurt? Come on.

I think you should look up the word "complaining" in the dictionary, lol. ;)

How am I complaining about anything? I'm confused, honestly. No, I don't believe the Eagles have a Super Bowl caliber team... not sure how that can be construed as complaining, but whatever. And the question there you ask makes absolutely no sense. Yes, Vick is a "star QB", but are you trying to tell me he is like any other "star QB" in terms of being a risk for injury? Are you trying to say other QBs put their bodies at risk even 10% as much as Vick does? Are you kidding me?

I mean, did you not notice the qualifier I added to my statement about their two greatest weapons? That they can get hurt "with the simplest of tackles"? You do understand the difference between, say, a WR like Brandon Marshall vs. one like Desean when they're being tackled, right?

Come on, dock. :)

[Westbrook36]

I think you should look up the word "complaining" in the dictionary, lol. ;)

How am I complaining about anything? I'm confused, honestly. No, I don't believe the Eagles have a Super Bowl caliber team... not sure how that can be construed as complaining, but whatever. And the question there you ask makes absolutely no sense. Yes, Vick is a "star QB", but are you trying to tell me he is like any other "star QB" in terms of being a risk for injury? Are you trying to say other QBs put their bodies at risk even 10% as much as Vick does? Are you kidding me?

I mean, did you not notice the qualifier I added to my statement about their two greatest weapons? That they can get hurt "with the simplest of tackles"? You do understand the difference between, say, a WR like Brandon Marshall vs. one like Desean when they're being tackled, right?

Come on, dock. :)

Dock doesn't like your comments because they can be construed to mean that if no one gets hurt, the Eagles potentially have a SB caliber team. Dock's irrational hate towards the Eagles will never allow a statement like this to be uttered on here unchallenged.

[MusicCitySkin]

I'll bow down to the Eagles when I can no longer draw breath. At this point, I hope you win out, Vick gets MVP, you win the Super Bowl, Vick gets Super Bowl MVP, and then he gets caught doing criminal activity again and it all comes crumbling down. It's no less than your fanbase deserves for being the most ungrateful pieces of crap in sports.

[pointyfootball]

I'll bow down to the Eagles when I can no longer draw breath. At this point, I hope you win out, Vick gets MVP, you win the Super Bowl, Vick gets Super Bowl MVP, and then he gets caught doing criminal activity again and it all comes crumbling down. It's no less than your fanbase deserves for being the most ungrateful pieces of crap in sports.

WE

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YOU TOO!

[pointyfootball]

So a team who's greatest threat are two offensive weapons that are huge risks in terms of injury every game they play and a defense absolutely no one is scared of is not to be feared in my mind. Now, if they can manage to stay healthy and have games where absolutely everything goes their way in the 1st Quarter and Reid totally out-schemes a defense, then yeah, they're scary. Otherwise, they'll probably win enough games to make the playoffs until they run into an actual championship caliber Defense.

Hard to disagree with some of this. I believe this three run stretch (WASH, NYG, CHI) will be a very good test/indicator. Giants are going to be ready for Vick and Chicago has a great defense, so we will see. I'm more worried about their defense (especially their inability to stop the pass) and their Oline, although they do seem to be playing better. That and Celek looks like Carlos Rogers catching the football. They need him to improve 100% in that area.

[dockeryfan]

I think you should look up the word "complaining" in the dictionary, lol. ;)

How am I complaining about anything? I'm confused, honestly. No, I don't believe the Eagles have a Super Bowl caliber team... not sure how that can be construed as complaining, but whatever. And the question there you ask makes absolutely no sense. Yes, Vick is a "star QB", but are you trying to tell me he is like any other "star QB" in terms of being a risk for injury? Are you trying to say other QBs put their bodies at risk even 10% as much as Vick does? Are you kidding me?

I mean, did you not notice the qualifier I added to my statement about their two greatest weapons? That they can get hurt "with the simplest of tackles"? You do understand the difference between, say, a WR like Brandon Marshall vs. one like Desean when they're being tackled, right?

Come on, dock. :)



Bania in true fashion, just glosses any post over and pulls out the hater card. Anyway, I was using the word COMPLAIN as someone complaining about the Eagles team and their weaknesses. I wasn't implying that you were an Eagles fan...whatever, it was trying to be slightly humorous. OK, you think Jackson is frail. I don't really know if that's the case. Vick is throwing with hurt ribs and his accuracy is fine. Frail is hind of hard to describe these two. I was giving other reasons why the Eagles would not win a SB this year. O line, depleted secondary, etc, you can go read the post.

[dockeryfan]

That and Celek looks like Carlos Rogers catching the football.

Celek has had a horrible year no doubt. I have heard excuses about the lingering wrist injury, but supposedly he's 100%. One thing he has had to do more this year is block, but can you blame Castillo? The line is like swiss cheese.

[thesubmittedone]

Bania in true fashion, just glosses any post over and pulls out the hater card. Anyway, I was using the word COMPLAIN as someone complaining about the Eagles team and their weaknesses. I wasn't implying that you were an Eagles fan...whatever, it was trying to be slightly humorous. OK, you think Jackson is frail. I don't really know if that's the case. Vick is throwing with hurt ribs and his accuracy is fine. Frail is hind of hard to describe these two. I was giving other reasons why the Eagles would not win a SB this year. O line, depleted secondary, etc, you can go read the post.

Sorry I missed the humor, didn't catch it the first time. :)

On a side note, isn't it hilarious that the Eagles are winning despite Reid and their FO and, in a sense, due to McNabb? Remember, Kolb was THE guy, and even after Vick had put up two solid performances in a row was still saying he was THE guy... yet, the Eagles success is all due to Vick. That's it. They took a chance on him and it's paying off now, but they wouldn't have if it weren't for McNabb, lol. The only credit Reid deserves is realizing how moronic he would've been if he had given the keys back to Kolb and admitting he was wrong. So, great job Reid and Eagles FO for listening to McNabb and bringing in Vick, then realizing how stupid you were for thinking Kolb was the guy! :ols:

[thebluefood]

I see Bania came back to talk smack after the game. How convenient...he didn't have work to do.

[joeknows]

Manning was hosed.... he was clearly touched when his foot hit the defenders leg BEFORE the ball was loose.

god i hate the love affair the media has with the dog killa..... its despicable!

[Tom [Giants fan]]

The only team that can beat the Giants are the Giants!! :doh:

30 turnovers in 11 games. Not the sign of a playoff caliber team.

[phanatic]

;7985624']The only team that can beat the Giants are the Giants!! :doh:

30 turnovers in 11 games. Not the sign of a playoff caliber team.

You've already answered your own question!

[Tom [Giants fan]]

You've already answered your own question!

There wasn't a question to be answered.

[phanatic]

;7985641']There wasn't a question to be answered.

Great game Tom. The better team won as you know. Looking forward to the next meeting.

[G.A.C.O.L.B.]

;7985624']The only team that can beat the Giants are the Giants!! :doh:

30 turnovers in 11 games. Not the sign of a playoff caliber team.

Curious to your opinion on Eli? Not his performance tonight but just in general?

[Tom [Giants fan]]

The better team won as you know.

Maybe tonight but I'm not convinced the Eagles are better.

[Tom [Giants fan]]

Curious to your opinion on Eli? Not his performance tonight but just in general?

A solid QB who has his bad moments. And obviously needs to have a conversation with Derek Jeter! :doh:

[Big Blue Joe]

;7985624']The only team that can beat the Giants are the Giants!! :doh:

30 turnovers in 11 games. Not the sign of a playoff caliber team.It's only been 10 games. The Giants have to get serious about this turnover issue. They need to send a message. I think Jacobs should be the starter next week, and DJ Ware should be given a bigger role. I wouldn't mind seeing Sage take the first snap next week either. The Giants have a good team, but they aren't going anywhere if they continue to average 3 turnovers per game the rest of the way.

[Westbrook36]

Normalcy has been completely restored to the NFC East.

The Eagles were clearly the much better team on the field tonight. Avant dropping a pass that he makes 999 times out of 1000 was the only thing that kept them in the game.

At no point during the game did I really believe that the Giants were going to win. I like how everyone is trying to say Reid got lucky that Vick is carrying the team when:

1. He signed him and took an enormous risk to do so.

2. He started him over the QB who was the reason he traded McNabb and took an enormous risk to do so.

I guess all we are left with is dock coming in and telling us some supposed weaknesses the Eagles have and why they aren't a SB caliber team. OL, dock? Secondary, dock? Really?

:ols: :ols:

[Zazzaro703]

Other than WB's first sentence pretty much everything he said was true. I'm as die hard Redskins as they come but the Eagles look good with Vick back there and Reid did take enormous risk to sign him knowing what media attention it would bring. I cant believe how often Vick puts his shoulder pads down and hits the defender as well. He is gonna get hurt again doing that but man is it fun to watch and i at least admired the fire he is playing with smashing into defenders at the end of runs like a running back. I'm also a Wahoo fan so i have NEVER had much love for Vick either.

*edit* I said the same thing the commentators said tonight when Vick overthrew Jackson. That was probably the first time it has ever happened. With Vick's scrambling, ability to keep plays alive for 5+ seconds, ability to throw a 60 yard bomb off his back foot and a WR that is faster than everyone else on the field.... It's a pretty dangerous combination it seems like we will have to deal with for years to come. We would of had the pefect safety duo to handle that threat easily too a few years back..... Damn.

[dockeryfan]

I guess all we are left with is dock coming in and telling us some supposed weaknesses the Eagles have and why they aren't a SB caliber team. OL, dock? Secondary, dock? Really?

:ols: :ols:

This is what I'm talking about. If you watched that game and didn't see the secondary as a weakness then you are a complete idiot.

Of course, when you click on nfl.com and see 3 ints and only 147yds passing you think they are all world. But that is clearly your way of watching football.

[Westbrook36]

The secondary looked great; what game were you watching? :laugh:

Aside from Mikell committing PI on 3rd and 14, I'd be really interested in hearing your explanation on how they looked terrible. The NFL leader in TDs was largely shut down. Bradley looked meh in coverage as usual but Boss was shut down.

How about the OL that you continually harp on week after week? After they gave up 11 sacks in their first 2 games, they have really steadied. Vick routinely had 3-4 seconds on most plays to survey the field against the best DL in football.

I know this is painful for you, dock. You hate the Eagles more than tr1 hates the Cowboys. Just concede the obvious; the Eagles might not be the best team in the NFL but they are among a handful of teams that can reasonably walk away with the Lombardi this year.

[Hitman21ST]

The secondary looked great; what game were you watching? :laugh:

Aside from Mikell committing PI on 3rd and 14, I'd be really interested in hearing your explanation on how they looked terrible. The NFL leader in TDs was largely shut down. Bradley looked meh in coverage as usual but Boss was shut down.

How about the OL that you continually harp on week after week? After they gave up 11 sacks in their first 2 games, they have really steadied. Vick routinely had 3-4 seconds on most plays to survey the field against the best DL in football.

I know this is painful for you, dock. You hate the Eagles more than tr1 hates the Cowboys. Just concede the obvious; the Eagles might not be the best team in the NFL but they are among a handful of teams that can reasonably walk away with the Lombardi this year.

You have to admit Vick's elusiveness is a big reason he gets most of that time. Not the only reason, but a big one.

[Big Blue Joe]

How about the OL that you continually harp on week after week? After they gave up 11 sacks in their first 2 games, they have really steadied. Vick routinely had 3-4 seconds on most plays to survey the field against the best DL in football.The Eagles routinely kept seven men in to block against the Giants 4 man pass rush. But when the Giants blitzed, they got a ton of pressure on Vick. It took Fewell a while to find the right mix, but it seems like blitzes from the offense's left side with corners/safeties in off coverage is a major problem for the Eagles' passing game. It'll be interesting to see how they respond in the coming weeks.

[pointyfootball]

Avant's on my "list" (I'm sure he cares). First the drop of the game-winner in the Skins game. Then that drop last night? Best hands on the team gone cold.

Good game last night that shouldn't have been that close. DJ and Avant should have had TDs which would have obviously opened it up a bit more. I was impressed with Giants Oline holding up fairly well against Eagles pass rush. Thought we'd be able to get more pressure on Eli. Sucks for Hobbs, I have to think he's done for good, considering his injury last year.

[Tom [Giants fan]]

Well, with Nicks out 3 weeks and Smith still out at least 2 more, I wave the white flag. Let's talk draft!

[igglesfan]

The Eagles routinely kept seven men in to block against the Giants 4 man pass rush. But when the Giants blitzed, they got a ton of pressure on Vick. It took Fewell a while to find the right mix, but it seems like blitzes from the offense's left side with corners/safeties in off coverage is a major problem for the Eagles' passing game. It'll be interesting to see how they respond in the coming weeks.

You mean the way they responded to those blitzes last night? With a pair of 40+ yard runs (one a 50 yard TD that effectively ended the game) right into the gaping hole in the defense those blitzes created?

I can only hope that other teams take this same approach. Without the athleticism of the Giants DL they will be easy pickings.

[Brotherz]

The secondary looked great; what game were you watching? :laugh:

Aside from Mikell committing PI on 3rd and 14, I'd be really interested in hearing your explanation on how they looked terrible. The NFL leader in TDs was largely shut down. Bradley looked meh in coverage as usual but Boss was shut down.

How about the OL that you continually harp on week after week? After they gave up 11 sacks in their first 2 games, they have really steadied. Vick routinely had 3-4 seconds on most plays to survey the field against the best DL in football.

I know this is painful for you, dock. You hate the Eagles more than tr1 hates the Cowboys. Just concede the obvious; the Eagles might not be the best team in the NFL but they are among a handful of teams that can reasonably walk away with the Lombardi this year.

This just kills me on so many levels. Let me be completely transparent that the first and most annoying level is that I happen to agree with you for the most part. I think the Eagles with Vick are the most complete team in the league. I wouldn't have said that before when the defense couldn't stop the run but amazingly they fixed it. Most teams can't do that. Just fix their glaring weakness. Same for the O-line. granted they don't need to be as good with Vick but they are improved regardless. Kudos to reid and company.

Now, on to the other annoyances: Westy, I'm sorry but your "I'm working" schedule is just ridiculous. Just admit you are a coward who can only give it and can't take it. The same way you "concede" by saying "but you suck anyway and I was right". You're just like the team you root for - arrogant and a bully who likes to play with the lead. Can't handle it when someone stands up to you or you're losing but you can sure pile it on when you're on top.

Lastly, this quote:

"might not be the best team in the NFL but they are among a handful of teams that can reasonably walk away with the Lombardi this year"

How can you say that? Seriously man. How can you even discuss the Lombardi trophy? You're franchise has NEVER walked away with that trophy. NEVER. Not when they were closing down the Vet 14 point favorites over the bucs who couldn't win in weather below 45 degrees. Not when the hapless Carolina Panthers came to town again big underdogs. Not on the field in St. Louis. Not against the Saints before they were the Saints in the big easy. Not even against the freakin cardinals. Not even at the big dance against the Pats. Never. Every single year in the history of that pathetic organization they have found a way to choke it away. Every single time. Without fail. They have brough choke to an art-form. And I do say "choke" because the MAJORITY of those situations they SHOULD have won the whole damn thing. But they didn't. Because they couldn't. You talk repeatedly about "restoring normalcy" and then have the audacity to talk about that ridiculous excuse of a city being one that can "reasonably walk away with a lombardi?"

Unless you're talking about a guy in South Philly who makes Italian chicken and spinach sandwiches, you're NEVER walking away with a Lombardi. Because God won't let that miserable team get one. If you want to see one, come on down to Ashburn and take a look at one of our three cuz that's as close as you're ever getting and it really doesn't even matter how good your team is. Its not about that. Its never been about that. Otherwise, we'd be talking about your five lombardi's already instead of my beautiful memories of TO doing sit-ups, Ronde Barber dancing ito the end-zone, Warren Sapp exclaiming "blow it up" at the close of the Vet, Stinkston and Trash knocking balls into the waiting arms of Carolina's finest, and Freddie Mitchell calling out Rodney Harrison before being knocked out of the league by him.

How you can even talk about a Lombardi is hysterical to me. I admit, with the terrible shape my skins have been in for the past decade, the only true joy I get out of the NFL season each and every year without fail is watching you idiots from Philthy get your damn hearts broken and return to worshiping a fictitious boxer or your baseball team for comfort. I don't know how it'll happen this year. I just know its going to be epic when it does. I'm only talking to you about it now Westy because on the day it actually happens, I am positive . . . . you'll have to work.

[thebluefood]

Don't forget this, Brotherz :D

http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRPlG8mgO4JjdyDT6Ogjl5Yf2-vI5kWiPbAd0hFGYe5BsSc16gZ

I'd rather be a fan of a losing Redskins team than a winning Eagles team any day. Your franchise can go eat arsenic laced brownies, Bania.

[Kindred]

This eagles team is looking like the eagles of old when McNabb was still mobile enough to get it done with his feet. The eagles need a QB/RB hybrid to compensate for their lack of a real running game.

[Brotherz]

Don't forget this, Brotherz :D

http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRPlG8mgO4JjdyDT6Ogjl5Yf2-vI5kWiPbAd0hFGYe5BsSc16gZ

I'd rather be a fan of a losing Redskins team than a winning Eagles team any day. Your franchise can go eat arsenic laced brownies, Bania.

Well played my friend!

[igglesfan]

This eagles team is looking like the eagles of old when McNabb was still mobile enough to get it done with his feet. The eagles need a QB/RB hybrid to compensate for their lack of a real running game.

Eagles - 3rd in NFL rushing yards per game (Giants #5, Skins #22)...

http://www.nfl.com/stats/categorystats?tabSeq=2&offensiveStatisticCategory=RUSHING&conference=ALL&role=TM&season=2010&seasonType=REG&d-447263-s=RUSHING_YARDS_PER_GAME_AVG&d-447263-o=2&d-447263-n=1

[Brotherz]

Eagles - 3rd in NFL rushing yards per game (Giants #3, Skins #22)...

http://www.nfl.com/stats/categorystats?tabSeq=2&offensiveStatisticCategory=RUSHING&conference=ALL&role=TM&season=2010&seasonType=REG&d-447263-s=RUSHING_YARDS_PER_GAME_AVG&d-447263-o=2&d-447263-n=1

We are all very proud of you guys. Win one. Just one. Then come talk crap on our board. Just one. You don't have to win three just one.

[Brotherz]

Hey Iggles fan, you got Eskin and Cataldi and company all planning the parade route yet? Love you guys. So funny. Come February you'll be blaming Reid for not running the ball, or failing to save timeouts, or some idiot removing his helmet and costing them with a 15 yard penalty at a crucial point in a huge game and planning for your big chicken wing eating contest. God, your city is just fantastic to watch.

[igglesfan]

We are all very proud of you guys. Win one. Just one. Then come talk crap on our board. Just one. You don't have to win three just one.

Win one what? Who cares...

I love how this is brought up ad-nauseum, to camouflage the truth of the argument at hand.

Tell you what, I'll gladly trade our empty trophy case for over a decade of consistent, competitive, winning football. As opposed to the years of on-field garbage, true Skins fans have had to endure.

BTW - Your SIg
Don't understand how any Skins fan can glorify the lazy, miscreant, thief that Albert Haynesworth certainly is. He's brought little more than embarrassment and ridicule to your team.

[Brotherz]

The last time Eagles fans were SURE they were going to win the Superbowl:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ceVORlvUlpI

[Brotherz]

Win one what? Who cares...

I love how this is brought up ad-nauseum, to camouflage the truth of the argument at hand.

Tell you what, I'll gladly trade our empty trophy case for over a decade of consistent, competitive, winning football. As opposed to the years of on-field garbage, true Skins fans have had to endure.

BTW - Your SIg
Don't understand how any Skins fan can glorify the lazy, miscreant, thief that Albert Haynesworth certainly is. He's brought little more than embarrassment and ridicule to your team.

Yea, I bet you'd hate to have these three Lombardi's. Yea, you'd trade em in for a chance to have a decade of choking away the big ones. Ya know how I know that isn't true? Because I wouldn't trade any of my three lombardis. Not one of em. Not even for a decade of being the team that's gonna win it all this year, but never does like your team. Only a guy who has NEVER seen a lombardi trophy other than watching the team across the sideline hoist it while you limp through the confetti to your locker room for your "good try" speech would even suggest that you'd "trade" it for playoff births. But ya know what, you shouldn't even be talking about trading a lombardi for anything, because you have to have one before you have something to trade.

[igglesfan]

Hey Iggles fan, you got Eskin and Cataldi and company all planning the parade route yet? Love you guys. So funny. Come February you'll be blaming Reid for not running the ball, or failing to save timeouts, or some idiot removing his helmet and costing them with a 15 yard penalty at a crucial point in a huge game and planning for your big chicken wing eating contest. God, your city is just fantastic to watch.

Eskin and Cataldi are A-Holes...
I'm sure you have a few in the DC area too.

I'm not saying the Eagles are going to win it all this year, to me this would be a long-shot. But they have as good a chance as anyone else in the NFC, IMO.

I'm just happy that, once again, even in what was thought to be a re-building year, they have managed to put up quality performances.

[Hitman21ST]

Tell you what, I'll gladly trade our empty trophy case for over a decade of consistent, competitive, winning football. As opposed to the years of on-field garbage, true Skins fans have had to endure.


You'd rather be good when it didn't matter in exchange for not having any real history of greatness? I don't think anything more needs to be said about that.

Well, at least Philly has all those trips to the NFC Championship to hang their hats on. Me? I'd rather have the Lombardis.

[Hitman21ST]

I'm just happy that, once again, even in what was thought to be a re-building year, they have managed to put up quality performances.

No one anywhere said this was a rebuilding year for the Eagles. All I kept hearing was you traded away an over-the-hill QB for a better one (Kolb mind you, not Vick). Not one Philly fan or media pundit said this was a rebuilding year. Same HC/OC/DC, a majority of the same starters on offense, defense, and ST. How was this a rebuilding year for you?

[igglesfan]

Yea, I bet you'd hate to have these three Lombardi's. Yea, you'd trade em in for a chance to have a decade of choking away the big ones. Ya know how I know that isn't true? Because I wouldn't trade any of my three lombardis. Not one of em. Not even for a decade of being the team that's gonna win it all this year, but never does like your team. Only a guy who has NEVER seen a lombardi trophy other than watching the team across the sideline hoist it while you limp through the confetti to your locker room for your "good try" speech would even suggest that you'd "trade" it for playoff births. But ya know what, you shouldn't even be talking about trading a lombardi for anything, because you have to have one before you have something to trade.

Would you trade them for over a decade of losing, mostly embarrassing performances? For a decade of being looked on as the biggest joke of an organization in the NFL? A front office who is a digrace to the players who have had to play for DC?

If you would, you got your wish.

I wouldn't.

[Brotherz]

Eskin and Cataldi are A-Holes...
I'm sure you have a few in the DC area too.

I'm not saying the Eagles are going to win it all this year, to me this would be a long-shot. But they have as good a chance as anyone else in the NFC, IMO.

I'm just happy that, once again, even in what was thought to be a re-building year, they have managed to put up quality performances.

Hey don't miss the beginning of my post to Westy. It ended with attacking his arrogance but it began with genuine Kudos to Reid and company for putting together a strong team, looking brilliant on the Vick decision and turning around a suspect run defense and o-line in a few weeks with obviously strong coaching during the bye and beyond. They are a contender. Like always. I am clearly a bit of hater. Not a philly fan. But mostly because of the general arrogance of a fan base that has never won a thing and acts like NFL royalty. That being said, can't deny the organization is currently run very well and has been for quite a long time.

[igglesfan]

No one anywhere said this was a rebuilding year for the Eagles. All I kept hearing was you traded away an over-the-hill QB for a better one (Kolb mind you, not Vick). Not one Philly fan or media pundit said this was a rebuilding year. Same HC/OC/DC, a majority of the same starters on offense, defense, and ST. How was this a rebuilding year for you?

Then you really don't follow the NFL that closely...

Of course it is a rebuilding year, we jettisoned a lot of Vets (McNabb included) and the Eagles have an average age of 25 years.

[Hitman21ST]

Would you trade them for over a decade of losing, mostly embarrassing performances? For a decade of being looked on as the biggest joke of an organization in the NFL? A front office who is a digrace to the players who have had to play for DC?

If you would, you got your wish.

I wouldn't.

Skins: 3 Lombardis (4th most in league history, among the likes of the Packers, Patriots, Giants and Raiders), a few years of mediocrity/not doing well. Good trade off.

Eagles: 0 Lombardis (among the likes of the Bengals, Vikings, Bills, Chargers, Falcons, Browns, Panthers, Seahawks, Cardinals, Lions, Titans, and Jaguars), but some years of "close but no cigar." You've got to be crazy for preferring that.

Ask any of the above teams and they'd take the years of being a "laughingstock" for one Lombardi. Guarantee it they would.

[Hitman21ST]

Then you really don't follow the NFL that closely...

Of course it is a rebuilding year, we jettisoned a lot of Vets (McNabb included) and the Eagles have an average age of 25 years.

Who else besides you called it a rebuilding year for the Eagles?

[Brotherz]

Would you trade them for over a decade of losing, mostly embarrassing performances? For a decade of being looked on as the biggest joke of an organization in the NFL? A front office who is a digrace to the players who have had to play for DC?

If you would, you got your wish.

I wouldn't.

That's the difference between your fan base and mine. Skins fans see one thing: championships. We go to five NFC championship games and a Superbowl and come away with nothing and we aren't celebrating it. We aren't walking around talking about how we are gonna go wina superbowl this year when we have NEVER won one and constantly demonstate that we crack whenever the stakes get too high. That's not us. We went to four superbowls in two decades and won 3 of them. We don't talk about "NFL championships" before the superbowl era, because we don't have to. We have a history. That's why we talk about it. Eagles fans have a perpetual "someday". Its always "this year" until its "next year". As bad as we are. We'll win our fourth before you win your first. Its because at the end of the day this franchise is and always has been about championships. Your team is about "a good showing" or being "competitive". That's lurie's formula for keeping the fan base rabid - that and making sure they can start drinking at 4:00am for a 1:00pm game and putting a 60 year old Sylvester Stallone on the jumbotron once in a while.

Iggles fan, the "champion" of your city is a character in a boxing movie. You're a baseball town. But football. Not so much. Its a good thing the cardinals didn't win the superbowl after beating your asses in the NFC champsionship game two years ago or they would have had to kick your sorry asses out of our division and bring them back.

[igglesfan]

Hey don't miss the beginning of my post to Westy. It ended with attacking his arrogance but it began with genuine Kudos to Reid and company for putting together a strong team, looking brilliant on the Vick decision and turning around a suspect run defense and o-line in a few weeks with obviously strong coaching during the bye and beyond. They are a contender. Like always. I am clearly a bit of hater. Not a philly fan. But mostly because of the general arrogance of a fan base that has never won a thing and acts like NFL royalty. That being said, can't deny the organization is currently run very well and has been for quite a long time.

Tell you what...

Try not being so much a "hater" and and respect the game, as a whole, more. Enjoy and root for your teams success, hope that they beat everyone who they engage on the field of play.
Revel in their accomplishments, but don't take joy in denigrating the accomplishments of others.

I say this at the risk of sounding "preachy", but if you do this, you will find that your Sunday experiences will be much more rewarding.

It's better to be a devoted fan of the sport, than an exclusive "homer".

[igglesfan]

Who else besides you called it a rebuilding year for the Eagles?

You asked for it...

http://www.bostonherald.com/sports/college/football/view/20101120eagles_win_despite_reconstruction_project_ building_permit/srvc=sports&position=also

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/373450-eagles-announce-rebuilding-year-by-trading-donovan-mcnabb-to-redskins

http://www.wtopnews.com/?nid=119&sid=2100385

http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/Rebuilding-or-not-Eagles-should-be-exciting-11059564

I could post many, many more...

[Hitman21ST]

Tell you what...

Try not being so much a "hater" and and respect the game, as a whole, more. Enjoy and root for your teams success, hope that they beat everyone who they engage on the field of play.
Revel in their accomplishments, but don't take joy in denigrating the accomplishments of others.

I say this at the risk of sounding "preachy", but if you do this, you will find that your Sunday experiences will be much more rewarding.

It's better to be a devoted fan of the sport, than an exclusive "homer".

OK. Congratulations. The Eagles are the regular season champions of the NFL. If this were college, you could hang your hat on that. Now it's your turn to congratulate us on our three Super Bowl championships.

Any other accomplishments you want to be congratulated for?

[thebluefood]

You'd rather be good when it didn't matter in exchange for not having any real history of greatness? I don't think anything more needs to be said about that.

Well, at least Philly has all those trips to the NFC Championship to hang their hats on. Me? I'd rather have the Lombardis.

Amen, and I was only an infant when we won the last one.

Despite some blemishes, the Redskins tradition is an incredible one and something I wouldn't trade for anything; especially for the one Philadelphia has.

[Brotherz]

Tell you what...

Try not being so much a "hater" and and respect the game, as a whole, more. Enjoy and root for your teams success, hope that they beat everyone who they engage on the field of play.
Revel in their accomplishments, but don't take joy in denigrating the accomplishments of others.

I say this at the risk of sounding "preachy", but if you do this, you will find that your Sunday experiences will be much more rewarding.

It's better to be a devoted fan of the sport, than an exclusive "homer".

Says the guy with 50 posts who comes into a REDSKINS FAN board to chat eagles after they win two in a row. Thanks for the fatherly advice but I don't think a birds fan should be talking about how to be a classy fan. Don't you have batteries to throw at someone? Its almost Christmas time, can't you find a mall santa to attack? Isn't there some little kid sporting a cowboys jersey you can throw a beer at? What are you doing in this forum? Lemme guess the eagles forum has a jail in it and you have a warrant?

[Hitman21ST]

http://www.bostonherald.com/sports/college/football/view/20101120eagles_win_despite_reconstruction_project_ building_permit/srvc=sports&position=also

That's about Boston College. Swing and a miss


http://bleacherreport.com/articles/373450-eagles-announce-rebuilding-year-by-trading-donovan-mcnabb-to-redskins

Bleacher Report. 'Nuff said.


http://www.wtopnews.com/?nid=119&sid=2100385

Hit. That's one of 3 so far.


http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/Rebuilding-or-not-Eagles-should-be-exciting-11059564


Coach Andy Reid disagrees.

''I don't look at it that way,'' Reid said. ''I don't look at it as a rebuilding year. I've never approached it that way. That doesn't enter my mind. We have some young guys. Hey, you're young, learn from the other guys, let's get in and let's play; play your heart out. Do what you did in college and if you're going to make a mistake, we're going 150 miles an hour and normally good things happen.''

If the coach says it's not a rebuilding year, that pretty much speaks for itself.


I could post many, many more...

Keep telling yourself that.

[Brotherz]

BTW - Your SIg
Don't understand how any Skins fan can glorify the lazy, miscreant, thief that Albert Haynesworth certainly is. He's brought little more than embarrassment and ridicule to your team.

Dude, your "superstar quarterback", the face of your franchise, electrocuted dogs and drowned them in buckets of water because they didn't fight hard enough. Man, nobody is gonna accuse you philly fans of being too bright. Wow.

[hail2skins]

Here's a link of ESPN's 2010 preview:

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/preview10/news/story?id=5493278

Two of the 16 people picked the Eagles to win the division (12 said the Cowboys), while three more picked them as a wild-card team.

One thing: I wouldn't expect ANY coach to publicly say that a season is going to be a rebuilding one, so Reid's comments didn't surprise me.

Count me as one person who is surprised that the Eagles are sitting at 7-3. I thought that Kolb would struggle if he was in there, and I don't think anyone foresaw the emergence of an effective Michael Vick.

[Tom [Giants fan]]

Dude, your "superstar quarterback", the face of your franchise, electrocuted dogs and drowned them in buckets of water because they didn't fight hard enough. Man, nobody is gonna accuse you philly fans of being too bright. Wow.

You are my new favorite poster on extremeskins!!! :applause:

[Brotherz]

;7988077']You are my new favorite poster on extremeskins!!! :applaud:

Tom,

You've been one of my fav's for a while. YOU are how an opposing fan is supposed to act on another team's board. Much respect for you.

[Hitman21ST]

;7988077']You are my new favorite poster on extremeskins!!! :applause:

I have a new mission in life ;)

[Hitman21ST]

Tom,

You've been one of my fav's for a while. YOU are how an opposing fan is supposed to act on another team's board. Much respect for you.

There's a reason his description is "The Respected Opponent"

[igglesfan]

Amen, and I was only an infant when we won the last one.

Despite some blemishes, the Redskins tradition is an incredible one and something I wouldn't trade for anything; especially for the one Philadelphia has.

The Redskins won the 1937 and 1942 Championship games, as well as Super Bowl XVII, XXII, and XXVI. They also played in and lost the 1936, 1940, 1943, and 1945 Championship games, as well as Super Bowl VII and XVIII. They have made twenty-two postseason appearances, and have an overall postseason record of 23 wins and 17 losses.
The Redskins have also experienced failure in their history. The most notable period of failure was from 1946 to 1970, during which the Redskins did not have a single postseason appearance. During this period, the Redskins went without a single winning season between 1956 and 1968. This is to say nothing of the last decades futility, and completely overlooks the shameless period of history when this franchise refused to sign black players.

The Eagles have won 3 NFL Championships (1948, 1949, 1960), 3 conference championships, 11 division championships and have appeared in the post-season 22 times. Like the Skins, they also have exhibited long stretches of futility in their history.

But, so what, it's all ancient history...

[Brotherz]

There's a reason his description is "The Respected Opponent"

True.

[Hitman21ST]

The Redskins won the 1937 and 1942 Championship games, as well as Super Bowl XVII, XXII, and XXVI. They also played in and lost the 1936, 1940, 1943, and 1945 Championship games, as well as Super Bowl VII and XVIII. They have made twenty-two postseason appearances, and have an overall postseason record of 23 wins and 17 losses.
The Redskins have also experienced failure in their history. The most notable period of failure was from 1946 to 1970, during which the Redskins did not have a single postseason appearance. During this period, the Redskins went without a single winning season between 1956 and 1968. This is to say nothing of the last decades futility, and completely overlooks the shameless period of history when this franchise refused to sign black players.

The Eagles have won 3 NFL Championships (1948, 1949, 1960), 3 conference championships, 11 division championships and have appeared in the post-season 22 times. Like the Skins, they also have exhibited long stretches of futility in their history.

But, so what, it's all ancient history...

Differences: Three Super Bowl Championships on one side, Zero on the other. When you have to go back to before the Super Bowl era and include division championships to sound like your franchise has some kind of success means that you don't.

EVERY franchise has periods of futility. The good ones also have Lombardis to make up for it.

EDIT: You only have two Conference Championships. You are 0-2 in the Super Bowl - 1980 and 2004.

[igglesfan]

;7988077']You are my new favorite poster on extremeskins!!! :applause:

Misery loves company, it seems.

Mike Vick is a convicted felon, who served his time and APPEARS to br trying to rehabilitate himself. He does not appear in any signature attributable to me.

Albert Haynesworth has stolen money from the clueless Redskins ownership, and by proxy, the fans of this team. Its a crime what he has perpetrated, and continues to commit. The "lay-down" against the Eagles was one of the most disgraceful things I have ever seen on a football field, but this is only one example of many.

[Hitman21ST]

Mike Vick is a convicted felon

All you need to do is stop there. That in and of itself is light years beyond what Haynesworth has done.

Not that I like Haynesworth or am defending his (lack of) play, but he's not an ex-con.

[igglesfan]

EDIT: You only have two Conference Championships. You are 0-2 in the Super Bowl - 1980 and 2004.

3 conference championships, 1960-1980-2004.

But, once again, who cares...

[Hitman21ST]

3 conference championships, 1960-1980-2004.

But, once again, who cares...

Super Bowl era there iggles...you only have 2.

[igglesfan]

All you need to do is stop there. That in and of itself is light years beyond what Haynesworth has done.

Not that I like Haynesworth or am defending his (lack of) play, but he's not an ex-con.

Much like my "empty trophy case", I'll take an ex-anything, who has rehabilitated himself, and gives everything he has every week, over a lazy, overpaid, disgrace any day.

[igglesfan]

Super Bowl era there iggles...you only have 2.

What Super-Bowl era?

Being the NFL expert you are, you certainly realize there were conference championships prior to the Super Bowls, right?

"On July 8, 1933, the NFL was divided into two divisions, which were renamed as conferences after 1949, and the winners of each division/conference played each other to determine the league champion."

[Hitman21ST]

What Super-Bowl era?

Being the NFL expert you are, you certainly realize there were conference championships prior to the Super Bowls, right?

Then how do they only have three? They have three NFL championships, so they should probably have at least 5 conference championships. 3 NFL Championships + 2 Super Bowl appearances = 5.

If you want to start comparing those, though, it would make your franchise look even worse. So I would stop if I were you.

[igglesfan]

Then how do they only have three? They have three NFL championships, so they should probably have at least 5 conference championships. 3 NFL Championships + 2 Super Bowl appearances = 5.

Because their prior 2 NFL championships were in 1948 and 1949, when there were no conferences.

The league did not establish conferences until after the 1949 season.

[Hitman21ST]

Because their prior 2 NFL championships were in 1948 and 1949, when there were no conferences.

The East and West "divisions" were de facto conferences. So there goes that argument.

[igglesfan]

The East and West "divisions" were de facto conferences. So there goes that argument.

No, the league did not establish "conferences" and subsequently award "conference championships" until 1950. DeFacto nothing.

And I'm not arguing anything, I'm on record as saying this all means practically nothing several times now.

[dockeryfan]

Because their prior 2 NFL championships were in 1948 and 1949, when there were no conferences.

The league did not establish conferences until after the 1949 season.

Why are you talking about wins that you have never even seen before? Do you really feel uplifted talking about a win in 1948?

The 80s were ages ago, but I at least got to see my team win. Hell, I don't even ever think about the conference championship over the 49ers. And that was a conference championship WIN, as opposed to the string of losses that you keep mentioning. Why, exactly do you think we care about your losses?

[igglesfan]

Why are you talking about wins that you have never even seen before? Do you really feel uplifted talking about a win in 1948?

The 80s were ages ago, but I at least got to see my team win. Hell, I don't even ever think about the conference championship over the 49ers. And that was a conference championship WIN, as opposed to the string of losses that you keep mentioning. Why, exactly do you think we care about your losses?

Duh...

That's my whole point, the "poster" who has continued this "debate" is 26 years old. How many has he seen?

The whole exercise is a joke, perpetuated by a few on this board, it's a senseless argument that means nothing.

Almost as little as this...

http://www.donovanindex.com/index.php

[Hitman21ST]

Duh...

That's my whole point, the "poster" who has continued this "debate" is 26 years old. How many has he seen?

The whole exercise is a joke, perpetuated by a few on this board, it's a senseless argument that means nothing.

Almost as little as this...

http://www.donovanindex.com/index.php

1 more than you ;)

[igglesfan]

1 more than you ;)

Yeah, you were 8...

And little has happened for you since then.

[Hitman21ST]

Yeah, you were 8...

And little has happened for you since then.

As opposed to you, who has celebrated how many championships?

[Big Blue Joe]

You mean the way they responded to those blitzes last night? With a pair of 40+ yard runs (one a 50 yard TD that effectively ended the game) right into the gaping hole in the defense those blitzes created?Neither of those plays occurred on passing downs. The Giants and everyone watching the game expected the Eagles to run in both of those situations. The Giants just lost containment. But I really don't see what relevance those plays have to the Giants' scheme against your passing offense.