oddly satisfying or infuriating

[Burgold]

Can't figure out how to feel right now, but I am oddly satisfied. We played a really competitive game and for the third game in a row the defense actually played well. Perhaps, we needed just to get rid of a lot of vets and ill fitters 'cause we certainly played well with the misfits and castoffs and against two teams in a row that had to win to get to the playoffs.

Yes, it's infurating that Gano missed another gimme field goal and that we kept giving the ball away in scoring territory

BUT

We also kept challenging and there wasn't anyone who was acting like they had their bags packed and the motor running as we have seen in other seasons. We played well. Heck, we should have won. And yet, the losing helps us in the draft standings.

I liked the psychological warfare of showing the bears/gb score as soon as gb was up too :evilg:

I feel oddly better about this team. I know I'll be beat up for saying that on the sloppiest of offensive days.

[Homercles82]

Infuriated with Gano and his misses this season.

The team looked a lot better once Grossman took over.

[visionary]

The Redskins are champions at competitive losses. That's how they always make us think they're better than they are.

Hopefully next season or maybe the one after that will actually be different....

I'm happy with what I've seen from the young guys, but until we actually start winning consistently there's no way to know if any of it will matter or not.

[Boss_Hogg]

I'm pleased with the solid NT play from Bryant. Hopefully we've found our guy.

[zskins]

The grass being wet also played a factor in both of the teams. That was the 12th man for both teams. I am sure they would have played better on dryer ground and we would have had less slippin' and slidin'

[Bibby]

Eh, doesn't matter to me. I would of loved to win this game, but whatever. Truth is draft position could be key for us if we're looking to go big. It is what it is.

[GoDeep81]

If you've been a fan as long as I have, it's nothing but infuriating to suck yet again..

[WhoRUSupposed2Be]

It was a solid effort but man, how close we come sometimes but the winning will come when we have the pieces in place.

[authentic]

Bryant is a definate keeper. Dude is a beast!! Overall pretty disappointed. Should have won that game. Glad this season is over though.

[Burgold]

Heck, in the spirit of this thread I can't even figure out if Grossman played a good game or a bad one. I still think that first fumble was an incomplete pass by the way. The trajectory of the ball made no sense if it was stripped.

[jflow78]

Well, I was very encouraged that we played well in some positions that we were considered very week in (NT, DE, QB, FS), and I was really infuriated by all the fumbles in key situations, the missed field goal (or bad snap, depending on your perspective) and the loss.

Altogether though, I think we should have a good off season and be ready to go 8-8 or 9-7 next season, nothing huge, but it also depends on what pieces we get in the off season.

At this point, the most frustrating thing is that none of us know whether or not there's going to be football next season (come on CBA, getter done).

[Skins_Fan82]

I'm kinda feeling good going into the off-season. the way our younger guys finished out the last 3 games has me pretty excited about the future.

Barnes made a few mistakes, but looked good for the most part. Landry will be back and healthy next year, we could have a pretty decent secondary.

our front 3 on defense have been doing a great job the last few games as well. Jacobs and Bradshaw were non-factors today, which is rare against the Redskins.

Brandon Banks is a top 5 return threat in the NFL

[jflow78]

Heck, in the spirit of this thread I can't even figure out if Grossman played a good game or a bad one. I still think that first fumble was an incomplete pass by the way. The trajectory of the ball made no sense if it was stripped.

Totally agree with that one. Not sure how the ball flies forward about 10 yards if it hadn't started moving forward before it came out. I really wanted to see a replay, but they didn't show a good close up.

Heck man, at least our D held the Giants to 17. That's one of the most encouraging parts of the game, and without Landry and Rogers (of course they were missing like 4 WRs and some OL too, but it was better than we would have done half way through the season).

[visionary]

Heck, in the spirit of this thread I can't even figure out if Grossman played a good game or a bad one. I still think that first fumble was an incomplete pass by the way. The trajectory of the ball made no sense if it was stripped.

I think worrying about details like that in wacky Redskins losses in pretty much pointless.

When this team loses, it will not allow logic or physics or anything to get in it's way.


:)

[BRAVEONTHEWARPATH93]

I can't be satisfied be in the basement yet the **** again

Rex sucked besides the TD

I'm tired of two losses coming from the giants every year

[joeknows]

i voted satisfying ... only because i like what i see out of the youth.... and Bryant was extremely surprising today

[Hunter_R]

If I got infuriated by this team losing, I'd probably have killed someone over the past few years.

[MONTEY]

If you've been a fan as long as I have, it's nothing but infuriating to suck yet again..

its embarrassing. skins are so flawed and i will never accept it.never get used to it.

[rockfan7224]

I can't be satisfied be in the basement yet the **** again

Rex sucked besides the TD

I'm tired of two losses coming from the giants every year

He threw two TD's and had an 88.8 rating. How is that sucking? And that one fumble call was bull **** if we're going there as well.

[RyansRangers]

The only thing that really pisses me off is gano and his damn missed FG's..... I do think if Rex was QB at the begining of the season we would have been 8-8 and showing offensive improvement

[Bang]

Infuriated, especially so if Danny Smith is still employed by this football team by week's end.
No excuse for missing chip shots that make the difference between OT and a loss.

~Bang

[Dirt]

I just don't know when it's right to pull the trigger on firing a kicker. I mean what else has to happen? At some point, you're DIRECTLY responsible for a loss. Last year, the sorry Redskins beat the undefeated Saints. yea, they did. Suisham did not, and he was canned. It's not like that game mattered any more than this one. Or the others Gano cost us.

This whole 'hes young' thing is stupid. I don't want a young kicker. I want a guy who's made thousands of 30 fgs and know how NOT to miss them when it counts. Gano missed way too many FGs. You have to draw the line somewhere.

[smurfs86]

Both. The infuriating part is obvious: the terrible record, the Hayesworth/McNabb fiasco. The satisfying: we found a diamond in the rough WR in Anthony Armstrong, Ryan Torain looks like he could be our future at RB, Terrence Austin and Brandon Banks look solid, and we're going to get a decent draft pick to hopefully pick our franchise QB or trade down and get multiple picks. Plus we might get some trade value for McNabb and Haynesworth. So overall a crappy season we'd all like to forget, but in the end there could be some good good things to come out of it in the offseason...once again Skins fans, January-August shall be quite interesting...HTTR!

[freetimmysmith]

I'm tired of two losses coming from the giants every year

^This

[BRAVEONTHEWARPATH93]

I just don't know when it's right to pull the trigger on firing a kicker. I mean what else has to happen? At some point, you're DIRECTLY responsible for a loss. Last year, the sorry Redskins beat the undefeated Saints. yea, they did. Suisham did not, and he was canned. It's not like that game mattered any more than this one. Or the others Gano cost us.

This whole 'hes young' thing is stupid. I don't want a young kicker. I want a guy who's made thousands of 30 fgs and know how NOT to miss them when it counts. Gano missed way too many FGs. You have to draw the line somewhere.

Exactly

Why the **** would you want a young kicker??

Kicker do not lose physical attributes, they aren't RBs

Gimme old ass Mort Anderson

[Chachie]

I feel oddly better about this team. I know I'll be beat up for saying that on the sloppiest of offensive days.


That's what's infuriating. We should have won that game. Graham Ganogood is a key factor in our last 2 losses. Turnovers killed us today. I really wanted to go out on a high note. 7-9 was my season record prediction and I would have felt a lot better had we reached that mark. I wasn't real high before the game so I'm not real low afterward but maaaaan... We stink. :(

[McD5]

Satisfying in that we lost a meaningless game, and now get a better draft pick.

Infuriated that Shanahan kept Grossman in. He is the only coach in the league that would start him over McNabb. Everyone already knows Rex. Play Beck or McNabb--before pissing away draft picks.

And infuriated how the team was handled this year. From Al and McNabb, to keeping Galloway and believing that Willie Parker had 1 chance in 500 million to ever play ball again.

[Rodriggo]

An absolutely numbing mind **** of a season.

I will give Shanahan credit, he has imposed his authority but to what end? I'm not sure.

They're in no better position than last year which is troubling considering it was no GM and Zorn.

[BRAVEONTHEWARPATH93]

An absolutely numbing mind **** of a season.

I will give Shanahan credit, he has imposed his authority but to what end? I'm not sure.

They're in no better position than last year which is troubling considering it was no GM and Zorn.

Yes man

Besides a few guys emerging, we are the same as last year with even more holes to fill

[GaryGreenMonk]

there was nothing satisfying about that or anything this season.

[Burgold]

I will give Shanahan credit, he has imposed his authority but to what end? I'm not sure.

They're in no better position than last year which is troubling considering it was no GM and Zorn.

I think that may pay dividends down the road. Did you see how the no-names and scrubs performed against the Giants and Jags... two teams desperate for a win. Once we clear away the divas and the tenured guys who feel they are above the team... we may have a team again. The no-name Redskins clearly out performed the Veteran all-star Redskins.

Not to mention... recordwise, we are 50% better than under Cerrato and Zorn ;)

[DieselPwr44]

Neither.

I'd say it's more depressing than anything else.

Phrases like:

We'll get em next year
Should we lose for a better draft pick
It's ok cause we're learning a new system
Where do we draft now

All of these have become apart of the fabric of the fanbase. There is a whole generation of Skins fans now that have never known what winning or playoff success is.

This is just another brick in the wall. It's now expected that we'll suck year in and year out.

They should just cue up Ray Charles' old tune "Born to Lose" and play it before kick off for every game.

Especially when we play the Giants.

Tired of losing man...sick and tired.

[Rodriggo]

Gimme old ass Mort Anderson

Hahaha +1!!!

I hate being knee-jerk especially since it hasn't helped the Skins any but, Gano is terrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr rrible.

[BRAVEONTHEWARPATH93]

Neither.

I'd say it's more depressing than anything else.

Phrases like:

We'll get em next year
Should we lose for a better draft pick
It's ok cause we're learning a new system
Where do we draft now

All of these have become apart of the fabric of the fanbase. There is a whole generation of Skins fans now that have never known what winning or playoff success is.

This is just another brick in the wall. It's now expected that we'll suck year in and year out.

They should just cue up Ray Charles' old tune "Born to Lose" and play it before kick off for every game.

Especially when we play the Giants.

Tired of losing man...sick and tired.

No bull

Ive heard "better draft pick" or "this is gonna be good on the future" every year since I started watching in 98

I'm sick of it

Every team in the area has hope besides the Skins and it sucks because I'm sure we mostly all bleed B&G before anything else

[Burgold]

Can I admit that by the third turnover in scoring territory a part of me was wondering if they could be doing it on purpose. I don't think believe it, but man, we gave away at least five scoring opportunities.

[DieselPwr44]

The only thing that really pisses me off is gano and his damn missed FG's..... I do think if Rex was QB at the begining of the season we would have been 8-8 and showing offensive improvement

Yeah that's troublesome but come on.....the goat of this game has to be the Gambler....and no, I'm not referring to Kenny Rogers.

You don't gamble like Hall did and give up a 90 yard touchdown. You make the fundamental play and cover your man and at least make them march down the field.

He had more of a hand in this loss than Gano.

[Chachie]

I think that may pay dividends down the road. Did you see how the no-names and scrubs performed against the Giants and Jags... two teams desperate for a win. Once we clear away the divas and the tenured guys who feel they are above the team... we may have a team again. The no-name Redskins clearly out performed the Veteran all-star Redskins.

Not to mention... recordwise, we are 50% better than under Cerrato and Zorn ;)


Agreed on all counts. We got better by getting cheaper.

[Mr. Sinister]

I'm not angry, or depressed, or even numb for that matter. To sum it all up, I am just glad that it's all finally over, and I look forward to seeing what this team may look like 3 years fom now.

[Dirt]

Satisfying in that we lost a meaningless game, and now get a better draft pick.

Infuriated that Shanahan kept Grossman in. He is the only coach in the league that would start him over McNabb. Everyone already knows Rex. Play Beck or McNabb--before pissing away draft picks.

And infuriated how the team was handled this year. From Al and McNabb, to keeping Galloway and believing that Willie Parker had 1 chance in 500 million to ever play ball again.

haha, I feel like you're just the complete polar opposite of all my opinions and everything I believe in...

you're also very very very very negative. I don't know WHAT has to happen to make you happy. According to you, everyone sucks, everyones an idiot, everyone should be fired, we should lose games for picks, etc.

hah, good god, WHAT DO YOU WANT

[Burgold]

haha, I feel like you're just the complete polar opposite of all my opinions and everything I believe in...

you're also very very very very negative. I don't know WHAT has to happen to make you happy. According to you, everyone sucks, everyones an idiot, everyone should be fired, we should lose games for picks, etc.

hah, good god, WHAT DO YOU WANT

Well, if it makes you feel better... in his world the Dow also ended the year at 7,000 a few days ago.

[Rodriggo]

I think that may pay dividends down the road. Did you see how the no-names and scrubs performed against the Giants and Jags...

True, I'm just not sure how that translates to actually competing on a serious level.

Seems like it's done with bright shining talent and they still need a whole mess of it.

Nobody really "jumped off the screen" this year other than Banks and even he tailed off a bit after getting banged around.

Torain, Armstrong, Bryant, those guys were "nice" but I'm just not sure we haven't seen their ceiling, i.e. playing with alot of effort on an average NFL team with nothing at stake.

I hope I'm wrong and they continue to progress.

[MONTEY]

Neither.

I'd say it's more depressing than anything else.

Phrases like:

We'll get em next year
Should we lose for a better draft pick
It's ok cause we're learning a new system
Where do we draft now

All of these have become apart of the fabric of the fanbase. There is a whole generation of Skins fans now that have never known what winning or playoff success is.

This is just another brick in the wall. It's now expected that we'll suck year in and year out.

They should just cue up Ray Charles' old tune "Born to Lose" and play it before kick off for every game.

Especially when we play the Giants.

Tired of losing man...sick and tired.

This. And especially you folks happy for a loss just to get a better draft pick. dumb crap .

[Phixius]

I really don't care. I'm going to enjoy the post-season and step away from football until April. I'm going to let Mike Shanahan and Bruce Allen do what's best for the team. I was hoping for a 8-8 season. McNabb had only one good game this season and the Eagles still manage to win the NFC East without him and Dallas still manage to get out of the basement after a 1-7 start. Whatever for me, I'm not going to spend the next 3 months analyzing "what if" with this season and arguing with fans of opposing teams.

[McD5]

haha, I feel like you're just the complete polar opposite of all my opinions and everything I believe in...

you're also very very very very negative. I don't know WHAT has to happen to make you happy. According to you, everyone sucks, everyones an idiot, everyone should be fired, we should lose games for picks, etc.

hah, good god, WHAT DO YOU WANT

6-10 isn't satisfying. Hurting the trade value of both Haynesworth and McNabb isn't satisfying. In fact, it's incredibly stupid. Our coach put his little napolean complex ego over the good of the team. That is incredibly ignorant.

Joey Galloway=ignorant. Willie Parker=ignorant.

It would have been difficult to have coached this team any poorer than what we saw this season. And unfortunately, with the mishandlings of McNabb and Haynesworth, those lessened trade values will penalize us for years ahead.

That's not negative, just rational.

[Burgold]

True, I'm just not sure how that translates to actually competing on a serious level.

Seems like it's done with bright shining talent and they still need a whole mess of it.

Nobody really "jumped off the screen" this year other than Banks and even he tailed off a bit after getting banged around.

Torain, Armstrong, Bryant, those guys were "nice" but I'm just not sure we haven't seen their ceiling, i.e. playing with alot of effort on an average NFL team with nothing at stake.

I hope I'm wrong and they continue to progress.

I think Armstrong is a borderline star. He makes plays and a lot of them. One of the best first year receivers I've seen (esp. on this team in a long, long time) Williams looks to be a great choice over Okung in the first. Torrain if he can stay healthy is very good. Heck, even Keiland Williams looks like he has a role. Plus, honestly, you need solid guys. You don't need guys who are a star at every position, but guys you can count on and who will fight every Sunday.

[War Paint]

Can I admit that by the third turnover in scoring territory a part of me was wondering if they could be doing it on purpose. I don't think believe it, but man, we gave away at least five scoring opportunities.

We have to find a way to get that Bad News Bears out of us. We self destruct in almost comical ways. Of course it's not so funny for Redskin fans, but if I wasn't a Skins fan and watched a game, I would probably laugh from being so dumbfounded. Only the Redskins would botch a game tying extra point to lose (Tampa). Hopefully we get all that exorcised this off-season.

[rockfan7224]

6-10 isn't satisfying. Hurting the trade value of both Haynesworth and McNabb isn't satisfying. In fact, it's incredibly stupid. Our coach put his little napolean complex ego over the good of the team. That is incredibly ignorant.

Joey Galloway=ignorant. Willie Parker=ignorant.

It would have been difficult to have coached this team any poorer than what we saw this season. And unfortunately, with the mishandlings of McNabb and Haynesworth, those lessened trade values will penalize us for years ahead.

That's not negative, just rational.

haha, oh please. hindsight is always 20/20

[War Paint]

I'm wondering how 32 people find this season satisfying. I guess all the Cowboy, Eagle, and Giants fans voted too.

[PortisBetts]

Played well. need to add either a qb or a wr for the draft. Honestly, that last ball was incomplete because of height. 6'2 6'3 could have gotten that, but thats been a problem for years. Still want jake locker since i think shanahan could make a difference

[Phixius]

I'm wondering how 32 people find this season satisfying. I guess all the Cowboy, Eagle, and Giants fans voted too.They're probably satisfy this joke of a season is over and they can get on with their lives.

[HigSkin]

Heck, in the spirit of this thread I can't even figure out if Grossman played a good game or a bad one. I still think that first fumble was an incomplete pass by the way. The trajectory of the ball made no sense if it was stripped.

Grossman is bipolar and that's what you get with him. We're gonna love and hate him if he stays.

As far as the thread poll, it was great to get a chance to see a solid foundation of starters sprinkled with next years backups. Now, we just need to bring in those playmakers that can put us over the top.

Good thread.

[FuriousD]

6-10 isn't satisfying. Hurting the trade value of both Haynesworth and McNabb isn't satisfying. In fact, it's incredibly stupid. Our coach put his little napolean complex ego over the good of the team. That is incredibly ignorant.

Joey Galloway=ignorant. Willie Parker=ignorant.

It would have been difficult to have coached this team any poorer than what we saw this season. And unfortunately, with the mishandlings of McNabb and Haynesworth, those lessened trade values will penalize us for years ahead.

That's not negative, just rational.

Your right, 6-10 isn't satisfying but the rest of this post is pure garbage.

Haynesworth ruined his own trade value, pure and simple. There is NOTHING Shanahan could have done to hurt Haynesworth any worse than he hurt himself.
McNabb was a bad fit and ultimatelty a bad trade but you don't know if you don't try and I don't see how his trade value is impacted.

Galloway was a stop gap and is gone. Big deal & so what?
Willie Parker never made the team. This is a pathetic reach by you. You wanna gripe about somebody that didn't even make it out of training camp?? :ols: Bush league!

:helmet:

[MintHillSkinsFan]

He threw two TD's and had an 88.8 rating. How is that sucking? And that one fumble call was bull **** if we're going there as well.
2 fumbles and a WTF interception. How is that not sucking?

[THEREALTOR1]

Unfortunately the game wasn't televised in my area but I was able to catch about 10 minutes of it at the gambling parlor.

What I saw was pretty much the same thing i've seen all year.

Some WTF moments, and some "ThATs my SKIns!!!!" moments.

Regardless, we lost. Wouldn't have mattered much one way or the other, but we lost. That's, that! 2010 in the books. At the end of this year, more than in years past, I feel more encouraged that we didn't lose by digging ourselves further in a hole, but we lost in a manner in which we have identified our steps to back to the surface and beyond.

I'm sure there's plenty of armchair GM's that'll find faults in this game, but I don't have the energy attm to discourage them from their ignorance. Rather it may be best to let them burn themselves out in foolishness, only to watch them come clamoring back next year with their claims of how they "believed all along"... etc, etc,...

In closing, it was satisfying to see a Redskins team that didn't give up (again only from what I was able to see). However, we still have a long way to go...

[Burgold]

2 fumbles and a WTF interception. How is that not sucking?

One fumble. The first one was an incomplete pass incorrectly called by the refs.

I could even forgive him on the second as that was a blind side hit just as he was about to throw it. It was more on the line than him. Still, a fumble and an int sucks. Worse in some ways because that Sellers/Grossman miscue happened before exactly the same way.

---------- Post added January-2nd-2011 at 08:23 PM ----------



In closing, it was satisfying to see a Redskins team that didn't give up (again only from what I was able to see). However, we still have a long way to go...

Yup, the most encouraging signs came from the D. They actually played well the entire game. The offense was mostly on, but kept turning the ball over once they entered scoring range. Bad News Bears was a very apt description.

[GoSkins561]

I can't be satisfied be in the basement yet the **** again

Rex sucked besides the TD

I'm tired of two losses coming from the giants every year



2 TD's and 300 yards sucks against one of the best defenses in the league? I can't blame Rex for the fumbles when Cooley is in charge of blocking Uminyora(sp)?
The interception was pretty weak though.

[THEREALTOR1]

Yup, the most encouraging signs came from the D. They actually played well the entire game. The offense was mostly on, but kept turning the ball over once they entered scoring range. Bad News Bears was a very apt description.

I think we made huge strides this year. Regardless if others want to see it or not. Even with a loss today, we've ended this year on an upswing, for those that want to recognize it. It has nothing to do with any individual player whatsoever, but more from a team standpoint. This team has made connections, from rookies to vets, this team has started to form its own bond amongst themselves. I'm sure there will be moves made this offseason that will cause some of the "fanbase" (note that I use that term loosely), to lose their minds, but by midseason next year, i'm sure that same "fanbase" will be back...

[GoSkins561]

2 fumbles and a WTF interception. How is that not sucking?

It depends if you're the type of person that focuses on the negative, while ignoring the positive, well sure, that's sucking.

Whether you like it or not, Rex threw more good passes than bad passes today. Even the best throw interceptions and yes that was a bad one.

[BRAVEONTHEWARPATH93]

2 TD's and 300 yards sucks against one of the best defenses in the league? I can't blame Rex for the fumbles when Cooley is in charge of blocking Uminyora(sp)?
The interception was pretty weak though.

Yeah how many big yardage games did McNabb have?

Yards mean nothing when you turn the ball over constantly

[Skins_Fan82]

We have to find a way to get that Bad News Bears out of us. We self destruct in almost comical ways. Of course it's not so funny for Redskin fans, but if I wasn't a Skins fan and watched a game, I would probably laugh from being so dumbfounded. Only the Redskins would botch a game tying extra point to lose (Tampa). Hopefully we get all that exorcised this off-season.

This. I swear we are the laughing stock of the league. the whole "Gah-NO!" thing is probably the biggest running joke amongst studio commentators all season...

[GaryGreenMonk]

I think Armstrong is a borderline star. He makes plays and a lot of them. One of the best first year receivers I've seen (esp. on this team in a long, long time) Williams looks to be a great choice over Okung in the first. Torrain if he can stay healthy is very good. Heck, even Keiland Williams looks like he has a role. Plus, honestly, you need solid guys. You don't need guys who are a star at every position, but guys you can count on and who will fight every Sunday.

too bad AA will be turning 28 next year. We'll get 3-4 years out of him at most.

better than nothing I guess.

[GoSkins561]

Yeah how many big yardage games did McNabb have?

Yards mean nothing when you turn the ball over constantly

McNabb had 14 TD,s in 13 games, Grossman has 7 in 3, just saying, the coaches obviously know a lot more than we do.

[GaryGreenMonk]

I think we made huge strides this year. Regardless if others want to see it or not. Even with a loss today, we've ended this year on an upswing, for those that want to recognize it. It has nothing to do with any individual player whatsoever, but more from a team standpoint. This team has made connections, from rookies to vets, this team has started to form its own bond amongst themselves. I'm sure there will be moves made this offseason that will cause some of the "fanbase" (note that I use that term loosely), to lose their minds, but by midseason next year, i'm sure that same "fanbase" will be back...

your post is delusional.

this team has more holes than the bunny ranch.

[TD_washingtonredskins]

... the coaches obviously know a lot more than we do.

I wish more people realized that fact.

[THEREALTOR1]

............

[ciresolstice]

Neither, I'm just indifferent. I'm not that mad or infuriated but I'm freakin far from oddly satisfied. The team finished medicore or sub that, and lost. Grossman looked good in one game , (sort of) and we still lost that game but all of sudden things are soooooo much better. Give me a break. It was nice to however see some of the younger players get in there and contribute. Hopefully better decisions and changes are made and the team will be better next season. I'm just kinda glad it's over(the season) It ain't one to remember.

[GaryGreenMonk]

Yeah, like i'm going take advice from you on football. We've had this discussion before. :ols:

If you don't remember, I called you out for being overdramatic and lying just to try to prove some useless point you were trying to make, that in the long run didn't make any ****ing sense to begin with.

i believe that was when you still thought we would somehow make the playoffs with all our "young" stars.

i'm real glad we've locked up John Beck for a few years. :rolleyes:

[THEREALTOR1]

............................

[#98QBKiller]

I said both.

This team is hard to watch. However...we saw a slew of young guys play hard these last few games. These are the types of guys that will be staying here for next season. I get pissed watching this team suck, but oddly enough, I've recently been very impressed with some of the up & comers.

Guys like: Anthony Bryant, Rob jackson, Philip Buchanon, Perry Riley, Adam Carriker, Kevin Barnes, Kory Lichtensteiger, Keiland Williams, Torain the train, Anthony Armstrong...these are all newer guys that we can build a good team around.

On top of that, I'm comfortable knowing that we'll soon be cutting the fat from this team and replacing it with hungry talent. Bums like Gano and Rabach will likely be gone. We'll most likely be getting something in return for dead weight like Haynesworth and McNabb and possibly for luxuries like Chris Cooley.

We'll also have studs to work with like Landry, Hall, Orakpo, Fletcher, etc. We'll get a first day starter or two via the draft, possibly a QB. I guess I'm sick of this team losing but I'm still hopeful with Shanahan/Allen's plan.

[F-16 CHIEF]

Infuriating.

Grossman and McNabb stunk it up this year.

The entire D is broken. We're wasting Rak. We have no talent. No on the field or in the coaching department for our D.

Our O line has one good player. We might have a RB and a return guy.

Other than that, this team is a total failure from top to bottom.

Decades. It will be decades before we ever sniff another important game in January.

[THEREALTOR1]

Infuriating.

Grossman and McNabb stunk it up this year.

The entire D is broken. We're wasting Rak. We have no talent. No on the field or in the coaching department for our D.

Our O line has one good player. We might have a RB and a return guy.

Other than that, this team is a total failure from top to bottom.

Decades. It will be decades before we ever sniff another important game in January.

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[Voice_of_Reason]

Both. Infuriated we lostbto the giants again.

Satisfied that young players are playing well, and we are evaluating talent.

Defense is starting to come together.

[F-16 CHIEF]

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6-10 Does that help more than pictures?

I thought so.

[Painkiller]

If all you see is 6-10, and another "failure" season. Your infuriated. If you see the silver linings of the 2010 season, and at some point in the season (no matter how you might have felt early on) you lowered your expectations to realistic. Your satisfied.

If you are down about the wins and losses, but you do see some positives from this season...I guess you are closer to both. Although, I would say dissapointed, but oddly satisfied would likely be a better combo for most members.

Me, I'm satisfied. I believe the organization is headed in the right direction, and we have a bright future. (As long as the owner remains patient, and leaves the football people alone)

[hogger]

The Redskins are champions at competitive losses. That's how they always make us think they're better than they are..

Agree 100%. As I said in another thread, to become a team that can win a division and advance in the playoffs, we need to start dominating teams. Our wins should be at least by 10 points and regularly higher. If every game we play comes down to the last drive or in overtime, we will never get beyond .500, because depending on how the ball bounces we'll only average winning half of those games.