Updated CBS Sportsline Mock Draft. Without Andrew Luck

[sebestian]

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/nfldraftscout-RobRang

Personally I think we have to try and trade down, however would you guys be happy with the pick up of J.J. Watt. From the times that I saw him play he looked good and was a high energy guy. I am not sold on him completely though.

We just have to find a way to trade down, and pick up o-line and backers.

I do not know, I am confused in which direction to go.

[KDawg]

Not a fan of JJ Watt. I'd prefer either trading down or drafting Malcolm Floyd should he enter the draft is that exact scenario played out.

[MattFancy]

I think we should trade down and get picks. We have alot of holes to fill and we really can't go wrong with just about anyone at #10. However, saying I want us to trade down is easier said then done. But, if there is a rookie wage scale, more teams may be willing to trade up.

[Drexen Del'Sangre]

But, if there is a rookie wage scale, more teams may be willing to trade up.
Interesting, I had never really considered that aspect.

[BLEED-B&G]

Every team wants to trade down, there has to be someone who wants to trade up.

We say it every year and it never happens. Not just the skins, but any team.

[MartinC]

If it plays out like that Locker would be the pick if Shanny rates him. If we pass on Locker I would take Von Miller.

[djnominal]

I honestly dont know either. Alot can happen in terms of off season trades and signings that could determine the direction we go with our 1st round pick.

[The_Godfather]

I'd like Watt, but not with #10.

[JohnnyUtah]

Does anyone think Cam goes that high?

[The Tris]

I like Rang but this draft makes no sense. Bowers is clearly one of the best prospects in the country, and for him to fall to 9th is madness.

I also like Miller better than Watt if we are going defense with the 10th.

[justice98]

In the history of the NFL draft, there's only been ONE defensive back that went #1 overall and that was over 50 years ago. Now, I know a lot of it is the function of the draft class, but Patrick Peterson would have to be THAT good to take a corner with the #1/#1, particularly when you're as bad as Carolina is. Although, it probably doesn't hurt their chances of being #1 again next year and being in line to get Andrew Luck again.

[MattFancy]

Every team wants to trade down, there has to be someone who wants to trade up.

We say it every year and it never happens. Not just the skins, but any team.

But if the wage scale comes into play this year, teams will be willing to move up since each pick will be slotted with a certain amount of money. Not like now, where you can draft someone at #10, but they want #1 money and hold out. That won't happen, so now teams may not be so hesitant to move up in the draft.

[Truant]

Panthers already have a good secondary, but maybe they let Marshall go in FA.

I think if we were in position to draft Prince (CB) Nebraska then we could definitely pull off a trade down. With the new CBA rookie contracts are going to be scaled back (as mentioned above) so we could see more trades higher in the draft.

[bushwack]

If the Panthers hold onto the #1 pick, I think they have to take A.J. Green. They need a big, explosive weapon on the offensive side of the ball, Steve Smith is getting up there in age and David Gettis just doesn't scare opposing defenses.

[Blue Collar Skins]

At that point wouldn't Prince Amukamara be the Best Player Available? Pulls it will fill a need if we do not pick up Carlos' contract.

[Laxpunk2006]

I like the idea of a 5 tech there but I don't know anything about Watt. The pre draft process should be a lot of fun.

[Dick Edds]

I will be so pissed if DQuan Bowers gets picked by Dallass. Being a Tiger fan (and alum) it would literally be like a kick in the nuts to see him in that awful blue and silver uni. Bittersweet. Don;t know much about this JJ guy either, but we definitely need help on the DL. I am intrigued by him to say the least. I still don't see how we pass up Gabbert or Locker ... unless Shanny sees potential in the 2012 draft regarding QB prospects. HAIL.

[Tweedr01]

I will be so pissed if DQuan Bowers gets picked by Dallass. Being a Tiger fan (and alum) it would literally be like a kick in the nuts to see him in that awful blue and silver uni. Bittersweet. Don;t know much about this JJ guy either, but we definitely need help on the DL. I am intrigued by him to say the least. I still don't see how we pass up Gabbert or Locker ... unless Shanny sees potential in the 2012 draft regarding QB prospects. HAIL.
Trust me, I know your pain, UM fan and had to watch Brandon Graham go to the philthy birds...and then have a season ending injury....it sucked.

[S.T.real,lights,out]

Not sure y we would DE there. Unless Bryant is our NT for the long haul.

[Destructis]

Mock drafts don't hold any water with the free agency that will probably occur this year. There should be a ton of FA's out there and teams will fill holes through FA and then fill others through the draft. Skin's included. This years draft is going to be a huge crapshoot and really won't shake out until maybe 2 or 3 weeks before it starts.

[GucciManSantana]

i think that we should try to trade down with the pats and take their 32nd pick (because i mean come on guys they're probably going to win the super bowl) and try to get one of their 14 million 2nd round picks that they have. we have waaay to many holes to fill in the draft and from our past track record free agency really isn't the way to completely fill them all.

[jfriedenthal]

i think that we should try to trade down with the pats and take their 32nd pick (because i mean come on guys they're probably going to win the super bowl) and try to get one of their 14 million 2nd round picks that they have. we have waaay to many holes to fill in the draft and from our past track record free agency really isn't the way to completely fill them all.

ONE of their 2nd round picks? from 32 to 10 would be a WHOLE lot more than ONE second round pick. Hell... 20 to 10 would be a lot more than one second round pick.

[MWCREDSKINS]

I think Panthers are looking at Bowers considering Julius Peppers left. I'd love to be able to trade down a few spots and still grab Jake Locker. I want no part of Cam Newton and I'm iffy on Mallett.

[illone]

Justin Blackmon is the pick for the Skins.

He might be better than AJ Green but slipping due to character issues which I say WHO CARES!? Guy might be the best player in the draft.

[bikie]

But, if there is a rookie wage scale, more teams may be willing to trade up.

exactly... the scale adds a whole new dimension to the draft and like this writer pointed out, will open up positions like CB to be taken first overall since the price tag won't be outrageous.. the top 5 picks are no longer salary cap death sentences...

[GibbsFactor]

Not sure y we would DE there. Unless Bryant is our NT for the long haul.

Agreed. Pea should be the number one lineman (O or D) on our board.

[laxpck]

Cam at #3

NO OL in the top 10 picks?

Gimme a break

[Laxpunk2006]

Mock drafts don't hold any water with the free agency that will probably occur this year. There should be a ton of FA's out there and teams will fill holes through FA and then fill others through the draft. Skin's included. This years draft is going to be a huge crapshoot and really won't shake out until maybe 2 or 3 weeks before it starts.

I wouldn't put my money on anyone putting up an accurate mock draft in January but it's nice for those such as myself that may not be familiar with the incoming draft class.

[Dukes and Skins]

Cam at #3

NO OL in the top 10 picks?

Gimme a break

Well to be honest there is not a single OL worth a top 10 pick this year. The top OT is probably a top 20 pick but not a top 10 pick at all

[Drexen Del'Sangre]

Cam at #3

NO OL in the top 10 picks?
Gimme a break
Why? This is a weak OL class. Top 10 picks tend to be BPA picks in a lot of cases.

[sportjunkie07]

im not really a fan of picking the 3rd DE off the board at pick #10. seems like we could get better value there.

[Chachie]

Why would Carolina pass on Cam Newton?

[Hitman#21]

Why would Carolina pass on Cam Newton?

Hoping they can get Luck next year maybe?

I want Locker at 10, though i would not be upset if they land Gabbert or Newton at 10.

[TotalRecall]

This list looks messed-up to me. Isn't Da'Quan Bowers suppose to be the top DE in college and a projected top-5 pick? I don't see a CB being the #1 overall pick neither, even with a new rookie pay-scale.

[SkinInsite]

What wrong with getting Miller and be set at OLB for the next 8 years.

[Dukes and Skins]

Hoping they can get Luck next year maybe?

I want Locker at 10, though i would not be upset if they land Gabbert or Newton at 10.

Its either Gabbert #1 for me then Locker, I still am too iffy on Newton and don't think Shanny would take him

[jsharrin55]

I will be so pissed if DQuan Bowers gets picked by Dallass. Being a Tiger fan (and alum) it would literally be like a kick in the nuts to see him in that awful blue and silver uni. Bittersweet. Don;t know much about this JJ guy either, but we definitely need help on the DL. I am intrigued by him to say the least. I still don't see how we pass up Gabbert or Locker ... unless Shanny sees potential in the 2012 draft regarding QB prospects. HAIL.

Especially if we pick Watt 1 pick after.


ONE of their 2nd round picks? from 32 to 10 would be a WHOLE lot more than ONE second round pick. Hell... 20 to 10 would be a lot more than one second round pick.

Actually they could send us 32, 33 and 96 and it'd be a pretty solid trade for us.

edit: Here is the old draft value chart and closest thing we have to "fair" trades.

http://www.draftcountdown.com/features/Value-Chart.php

[Hitman#21]

Its either Gabbert #1 for me then Locker, I still am too iffy on Newton and don't think Shanny would take him

I agree, i do not think the skins want Newton.

[fdarugar]

Yea...if we took JJ Watt @ 10 I'd be ****ing pist.

[Destructis]

I wouldn't put my money on anyone putting up an accurate mock draft in January but it's nice for those such as myself that may not be familiar with the incoming draft class.

I don't have any problem with rating players in the draft. The mock drafts take into consideration the team needs. Even if you are not familiar with the drafts choices (I am not also) rating the players is fine, but saying this team will select this person right now is just silly in my opinion. More people putting up things like Mel Kipers big board carries more weight with me at this point. When I see someone I don't recgonize on there, I do a little research.

[Dukes and Skins]

I agree, i do not think the skins want Newton.

I just don't see him being a good fit here, yes he's got the arm and athletic ability but people talk about his accuracy not being as good as its advertised a lot of the passes he throws are adjusted to by the receivers. Not bashing him as a player but my honest opinion is that he'll be a QB who takes a while to realize his potential and I don't think we'll take him and wait and pray that he realizes the potential

[GucciManSantana]

Especially if we pick Watt 1 pick after.



Actually they could send us 32, 33 and 96 and it'd be a pretty solid trade for us.


edit: Here is the old draft value chart and closest thing we have to "fair" trades.

http://www.draftcountdown.com/features/Value-Chart.php

that sounds great to me! we need all the talent we can get in the first 3 rounds and seeing that we don't have a 3rd round we need to use that 10th pick as leverage to grab some young proven talent.

[Soup]

A CB with the first pick? If the panthers GM picks a CB with the first overall pick, I'd fire him.

I think they'll go WR or DL. Most likely Dareus with the first pick.

I'd rather take von miller or reaching for Paea than Watt, i'd rather take Cameron Jordan

Mallett is not going top 10 or top 20, I even question Blaine going in the top 10.

Because of luck going back to school we could see the first QB come off around the 15th pick overall...maybe.

[fdarugar]

A CB with the first pick? If the panthers GM picks a CB with the first overall pick, I'd fire him.

I think they'll go WR or DL. Most likely Dareus with the first pick.

I'd rather take von miller or reaching for Paea than Watt, i'd rather take Cameron Jordan

Mallett is not going top 10 or top 20, I even question Blaine going in the top 10.

Because of luck going back to school we could see the first QB come off around the 15th pick overall...maybe.

I'd rather even take Cameron Hayward...he looked like a psycho with a nonstop motor.

[GibbsFactor]

A CB with the first pick? If the panthers GM picks a CB with the first overall pick, I'd fire him.

I think they'll go WR or DL. Most likely Dareus with the first pick.

I'd rather take von miller or reaching for Paea than Watt, i'd rather take Cameron Jordan

Mallett is not going top 10 or top 20, I even question Blaine going in the top 10.

Because of luck going back to school we could see the first QB come off around the 15th pick overall...maybe.

Paea has a top 10 ranking on Kipers big board. How is that reaching?

[Soup]

Paea has a top 10 ranking on Kipers big board. How is that reaching?


Paea is not a top 10 prospect, you would probably see him go in the 20s. People question his size and maybe reluctant on taking him so early. Besides, I think the redskins will get an NT in free agency. I'm looking at Paul Soliai from Miami.

[Dukes and Skins]

Paea is not a top 10 prospect, you would probably see him go in the 20s. People question his size and maybe reluctant on taking him so early. Besides, I think the redskins will get an NT in free agency. I'm looking at Paul Soliai from Miami.

Agreed I think its either Soliai or Chris Hoke in FA for NT

[RWJ]

I'm thinking it's gotta be Jake Locker if he's there at #10.

[MartinC]

Why would Carolina pass on Cam Newton?

Because after they do their due diligence they decide that he is too much of a boom or bust risk and given he only has one year of Div1 football in which he ran the ball as many times as he threw it they decide they are guessing too much on his potential. Great potential upside but also the guy could be out of the league in 3 years.

[Buck812]

Im always the BPA but If we dont get a QB then then next year will be a waisted year

[redskins4ever28]

Im guessing, depending on what QBS are taken after the Bills and Cardinals choose, that we might trade Tennesee our 1st rd this year, Mcnabb and AH for their 1st rd and take Jake Locker. I think the Bills take Gabbert, Cards take Mallett, SF takes Newton, then Ten comes up, and they get AH and Mcnabb in a deal where we then get Locker. Its also possible we do this trade with the 9ers or cards too.

[darrelgreenie]

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/nfldraftscout-RobRang
We just have to find a way to trade down, and pick up o-line and backers.....I do not know, I am confused in which direction to go.

If the draft played out that way it would be great for us.
We could trade down and still get our QB.

[ABSTRACT]

I hope we can trade back and pick up Blackmon and a DE. My heart is telling me we should stay put and draft a superior R DE but we have so many needs!! I really wish we can trade back. We also need Stephen Wisnewski in the second. Hoping we can also get Rodney Hudson in the second after a Cooley trade. Hoping we also can get Pat Devlin. *sigh* Anxious to see what we get in free agency to alleviate all of these holes on the roster.

[RSimports]

Trust me, I know your pain, UM fan and had to watch Brandon Graham go to the philthy birds...and then have a season ending injury....it sucked.


I third that...watching Sean Lee play for dallas this year hurt my feelings. I felt like he betrayed me and the PSU faithful (even though he doesn't know me) :(

[GaryGreenMonk]

its gonna be hard not to feel like your reaching in this draft.

[pjfootballer]

Not a fan of JJ Watt. I'd prefer either trading down or drafting Malcolm Floyd should he enter the draft is that exact scenario played out.

I like Heyward from Ohio State better, but both might be a reach at #10.

[Rocky21]

This guy has the first O lineman going at 19? Get outta here!

[Dick Edds]

Im guessing, depending on what QBS are taken after the Bills and Cardinals choose, that we might trade Tennesee our 1st rd this year, Mcnabb and AH for their 1st rd and take Jake Locker. I think the Bills take Gabbert, Cards take Mallett, SF takes Newton, then Ten comes up, and they get AH and Mcnabb in a deal where we then get Locker. Its also possible we do this trade with the 9ers or cards too.

Locker is not worth all that, we need picks for AH and DMac, not a swap of picks plus those guys to get Jake Locker. We need any mid to late round pick we can get. This sounds like a Gibbs/Vinny move to me.

Edit: I can understand the McNabb deal n swap (bc it least it's a QB for QB deal) ... but not both DMac and AH ... that leaves us in a serious hole at QB and DL with nothing in return. If we could grab a 4th-6th from Tenn for AH, I wouldn't mind swapping McRibbs for Tenn's pick to get Locker. But I still think Locker is over rated (although an exceptional athlete for sure).

[Champskins]

Robert Quinn, Blaine Gabbert, Marcell Dareus, Blackmon..... or trade down

[texasthunder]

With the 49rs landing Harbaugh as the new HC, then I see him taking Locker for their QB situation.

If Gabbert is gone then either Julio Jones or Blackmon would be good picks.

[Dukes and Skins]

With the 49rs landing Harbaugh as the new HC, then I see him taking Locker for their QB situation.

If Gabbert is gone then either Julio Jones or Blackmon would be good picks.

I don't know Thunder part of me is saying they'll try to get a vet in there first and see if they can win right off the bat but who knows with Harbaugh coming in and and a new GM in charge

[texasthunder]

Chan Gailey on draft and Fitzpatrick.


"What has got to happen is you’ve got to understand that I think Fitz is a really good quarterback and I think he can take our team to the playoffs. But if you’ve got a chance to get a guy that you think for 10 years, 12 years, is going to be the guy, Fitz is moving on up in years, too. How many years do you expect us to draft No. 3 and be able to get a guy like that,
http://blogs.buffalonews.com/billboard/2011/01/gailey-keeping-options-open.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed:+typepad/buffalonews/billboard+(BillBoard)

[MartinC]

Chan Gailey on draft and Fitzpatrick.

How many years do you expect us to draft No. 3 and be able to get a guy like that,[/COLOR][/I]
http://blogs.buffalonews.com/billboard/2011/01/gailey-keeping-options-open.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed:+typepad/buffalonews/billboard+(BillBoard)

About the next 10?

That does sound like they will at least seriously consider a QB.

[texasthunder]

I don't know Thunder part of me is saying they'll try to get a vet in there first and see if they can win right off the bat but who knows with Harbaugh coming in and and a new GM in charge


Of course if they did go with a Orton, Kolb, McNabb, that would make one of the Smiths available.

Either way D&S , just so that we get Gabbert. !!!!!!!!!!

[Dukes and Skins]

Of course if they did go with a Orton, Kolb, McNabb, that would make one of the Smiths available.

Either way D&S , just so that we get Gabbert. !!!!!!!!!!

Agreed and it looks like Gabberts Gang is starting to increase in numbers now :ols:

[BD21]

I go to Wisconsin and have seen all the Badger games in the past 3 years, and believe me, I think Watt is a fantastic player, but he is no more than a late second rounder at best. He has limited upside in my opinion and struggles against quality competition. He does manhandle lesser competition, but the NFL is different than college.

#10 needs to be a qb, or trade down. doubtful Watt will be around in the 2nd round, but if he is I'd take him.

[wilco_holland]

I wouldn´t pass on Prince A. He is just a lockdown corner, not the ballhawk but he will make it hard to throw his way.

[phishisthegreatstuff]

I think that's the worst mock draft I have ever seen

[smurfs86]

Don't know much about Watt, but I doubt we pick him there at #10. I'm surprised they have Cam Newton going that high. I'm still thinking Skins pick Jake Locker or Blain Gabbert at the 10 spot.

[Enter Apotheosis]

Paea is not a top 10 prospect, you would probably see him go in the 20s. People question his size and maybe reluctant on taking him so early. Besides, I think the redskins will get an NT in free agency. I'm looking at Paul Soliai from Miami.

People are questioning his size? Isn't he already playing at 310 pounds?

[Soup]

People are questioning his size? Isn't he already playing at 310 pounds?

Paea is 6'1 310 for an NT

to compare, ngata is 6'4 350

People want more size out of him, that is the major reason why he'll probably go in the 20s

[Enter Apotheosis]

Paea is 6'1 310 for an NT

to compare, ngata is 6'4 350

People want more size out of him, that is the major reason why he'll probably go in the 20s

Again, this makes no sense to me. Most of the game's premiere NTs stand at around 6'2" and are somewhere in the 310 to 330 range weight-wise. There are plenty of possible reasons why taking him at number 10 would be considered a reach... but size just doesn't cut it as one of them.

[Hitman21ST]

I wouldn´t pass on Prince A. He is just a lockdown corner, not the ballhawk but he will make it hard to throw his way.

He's not a ballhawk because no one throws his way...

[gutlead74]

say waatttttttttttttttttttttttttttttt!!!!!

[Dirt]

Geez, this is a tough one, I don't know what I'd want. But if anything, I'd lean toward Miller. He could end up being the tackler that Fletcher is, and Fletcher isn't getting any younger. Just imagine if London freaking Fletcher was gone, we'd be down dozens of tackles on the year. And he will be gone eventually.

Otherwise, Locker I suppose.

[Soup]

Again, this makes no sense to me. Most of the game's premiere NTs stand at around 6'2" and are somewhere in the 310 to 330 range weight-wise. There are plenty of possible reasons why taking him at number 10 would be considered a reach... but size just doesn't cut it as one of them.

well some people think he won't be able to shed double teams well in the NFL. He has decent lateral quickness not great and add that he has a small frame and small arm length that it is difficult for him to tackle. What he has is pure strength and can get that push on the center so the LBs can fill in the gaps. He can be inconsistent, I don't think you'd want to waste a top 10 pick on a player that doesn't show up in every game.

IMO he's completely maxed out. I think he has reached his potential and will be a bust in the NFL. What I've see from him is amazing strength, but he's not that quick off the snap. You want top 10 picks to continually show he can shed blockers and be destructive on the Oline. In some games he's not even a factor. Most people here believe he's the best NT in the draft. I think its Powe but that's just my opinion.

[Spitfire71]

Akeem Ayers down to 25? No way in hell. 6'4", 255 with a sub-4.6 speed, able to play inside or outside, 3-4 or 4-3. And this guy has him going at 25. I say, not only is Akeem Ayers NOT going to make it past 15, but if he makes it past 10 and A.J. Green wasn't on the board when we picked, then somebody in the front office royally screwed up. How can this not be our guy if he's there? As versatile as he is, he's bound to fill a hole somewhere in our LB corps. If he turns out to be a good budding pass rusher, he could stay outside. He wasn't used as a blitzer a lot in college, but it's reportedly something he is seen by scouts as being capable of doing. And if not, then move him inside. Rocky isn't expected to come back, from what I heard. If both he and Green are off the board, then trade down. The bottom half of the first round looks like it could be a gold mine. Julio Jones or Jonathan Baldwin for our receiving corps, possibly? Mike Pouncey would probably be down somewhere in the 20s. Maybe Von Miller. But I think Akeem Ayers is our guy.

-- And to the guy that brought up Ngata as a NT example, if you pay very close attention to the Ravens' alignment, he alternates between tackle and defensive end. Their proper nose tackle is a guy named Kelly Gregg.

[Destructis]

Don't know much about Watt, but I doubt we pick him there at #10. I'm surprised they have Cam Newton going that high. I'm still thinking Skins pick Jake Locker or Blain Gabbert at the 10 spot.

Everyone is just assuming Shanny will take a QB. I am sure he wants one, but he wants the right one. He liked Cutler and traded up to grab him. If he doesn't like any of these as much, then he won't take one just to take one. Last year he really wanted Bradford, but the price was to high so stayed where he was and took Williams. I see him doing the same type of thing this year. Drafting for a combination of need and bpa.

[KAZEstrong]

If thats what the board looks like when we get there, I think you have to take Prince Amukamara at CB. we would then allow D Hall to do what hes good at, take risks against lesser receivers.

And no way Cam Newton goes top 5..

[jthor99]

Tell that to New England. Just beacuse our orgainzation doesn't attempt to does not mean it isn't possible

[Hitman21ST]

Tell that to New England. Just beacuse our orgainzation doesn't attempt to does not mean it isn't possible

New England has in recent history had better players to trade, and a quality backup to replace him, so they weren't really losing anything in the trade, rather they were just gaining a (very high) draft pick.

[Spitfire71]

I think we're probably better off sticking with Anthony Bryant. Unless you could get a guy like a Shaun Rogers or a Jay Ratliff (no, I don't like his uniform, but he's damn good and there's no denying that), it's hard as freaking hell to find a true nose tackle. One is because most schools don't run a 3-4. Playing 3-technique in a 4-3 and nose in a 3-4 are two completely different animals. For the most part, NT is a grunt position. The effective ones occupy two blockers and allow other guys to make the plays. You want your nose tackle to be big. You want him to be strong. You want him to be a team player and understand his role. They don't get a whole lot bigger than Anthony Bryant, who weighs in at about 375. He also moves frighteningly well for a man that large. And he's not a selfish stats whore like Haynesworth.

I think the guy we should target for our next NT is in 2012. There's a guy named Asa Chapman out of Liberty (FCS). He will have spent 5 years (including a redshirt season) learning NT, as Liberty runs a 3-4 defense. He's 6'5", 350+ and can move for his size. And he might have played against lesser competition, but he was initially at WVU, so he had looks from FBS schools coming out of Fork Union Military Academy. If you're nervous about taking an FCS player, I do believe that Texas A&M runs a 3-4 as well, but I'm not sure if their NT is coming out this year.

[HailRiggoRanger]

I've seen every Badger game, and there is ZERO chance that the Redskins take him at #10. At best, he is a late first round pick. The one Badger that is "can't miss" is Moffitt; am hoping the Skins take him in the second.

[Dukes and Skins]

I've seen every Badger game, and there is ZERO chance that the Redskins take him at #10. At best, he is a late first round pick. The one Badger that is "can't miss" is Moffitt; am hoping the Skins take him in the second.

Disagree on that if anything Carimi is the the "can't miss" guy he's got the makings to be a dominant RT in the NFL and Moffitt is not as quick an athlete to be a G here in our scheme

[HailRiggoRanger]

Disagree on that if anything Carimi is the the "can't miss" guy he's got the makings to be a dominant RT in the NFL and Moffitt is not as quick an athlete to be a G here in our scheme

I also like Carimi, but he's not worth a #10 pick and he'll be gone by the time the Redskins pick in the second. Moffitt is not as quick, but it's a guarantee he'll get to his assigned block when he pulls and take the guy out. I focused on him for two games and never saw him miss. Add the intangibles -- smart, plays hard, good teammate -- and he's my "can't miss" that reminds me of Grimm.