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Mickalino
January-12th-2011, 10:41 PM
http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2011/01/12/pizza-magnate-herman-cain-explores-2012-presidential-run/

Wall Street Journal : Pizza Magnate Herman Cain Explores 2012 Presidential Run

By Danny Yadron

Herman Cain, a tea party star, talk radio host and former CEO of Godfather’s Pizza, announced Wednesday he’s forming an exploratory committee for a run at the White House.

It’s a bit of a long-shot.

Though Mr. Cain is revered in conservative-activist circles, he is little known elsewhere. He’s never held office and lost a 2004 primary challenge to Georgia Republican Sen. Johnny Isakson. Still, he’s managed to spark a “draft Cain” movement and this weekend will travel to Iowa, his seventh visit there since July 4, 2009.

“The American Dream is under attack,” Mr. Cain said in a statement on his website. “While our country faces grave and complex problems, America is not lost forever. The glory of the American Dream can still be found in the hearts of those who love Her and the promise of freedom She guarantees.”

He goes on, “America is the greatest idea any man has ever imagined.”

DieselPwr44
January-12th-2011, 11:09 PM
If he was to win, how many toppings would that guarantee us on Monday?

Mickalino
January-13th-2011, 02:14 PM
If he was to win, how many toppings would that guarantee us on Monday?

He'll spread the wealth, with extra pepperoni for everybody

SnyderShrugged
January-13th-2011, 02:16 PM
never heard of him

Burgold
January-13th-2011, 02:16 PM
If he was to win, how many toppings would that guarantee us on Monday?

Pizza is not socialist. Every pizza will be personal pan by law. No sharing of slices. In fact, if you are caught having cheese that drips onto another slice expect jailtime or a hefty fine... and don't even think about picking up any fallen toppings and redistributing them.

TD_washingtonredskins
January-13th-2011, 02:23 PM
It's Tea Party day in the Tailgate.

Predicto
January-13th-2011, 02:26 PM
Hope he does better than the Domino's Pizza CEO who is currently messing up Michigan football. :(

Mickalino
January-13th-2011, 02:29 PM
never heard of him

Can you hear him now ?

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jIzJHAw8Vmo

Qi-miawfDNU

Lombardi's_kid_brother
January-13th-2011, 02:29 PM
Is there a rule that says that in order to own a pizza chain, you have to be an insane, right-wing *******?

SnyderShrugged
January-13th-2011, 02:32 PM
Thanks Mick. I'll check it out at home. Can't do vids at work. B

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Is there a rule that says that in order to own a pizza chain, you have to be an insane, right-wing *******?
whats insane about him?

Hubbs
January-13th-2011, 02:42 PM
Does this mean that if he doesn't deliver on his promises within thirty minutes of his inauguration, we get his entire administration for free?

HOF44
January-13th-2011, 02:44 PM
Forget the Tea Party we now have "The Pizza Party"!!! :ols:

TD_washingtonredskins
January-13th-2011, 02:46 PM
Forget the Tea Party we now have "The Pizza Party"!!! :ols:

That was a fun game!!

http://onceuponawin.files.wordpress.com/2009/01/win-pictures-pizza-party.jpg?w=449&h=421

Predicto
January-13th-2011, 02:48 PM
Is Mr Cain related to this guy?

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Just what is it about these two fellows that sets them apart, makes them deserving of extra face time at every Tea Party event? I can't imagine.


:silly:

gnuv
January-13th-2011, 02:48 PM
is there a rule that says that in order to own a pizza chain, you have to be an insane, right-wing *******?

racist!

:D

Mickalino
January-13th-2011, 02:54 PM
racist!

:D

Speaking of racists, imagine if he won the nomination, and we had 2 black men running against each other for president, all of the racists and white supremacists would have heart attacks.

aREDSKIN
January-13th-2011, 02:56 PM
racist!

:D

Oh my, wouldn't that be ironic.

Mickalino
January-13th-2011, 03:04 PM
I can see the Democratic strategy. They'll associate Cain with McCain, who is associated with George W :)
Their slogan "We don't want another Cain, cuz any Cain is a close relative of W, and we don't want 4 more years !"

gnuv
January-13th-2011, 03:04 PM
Speaking of racists, imagine if he won the nomination, and we had 2 black men running against each other for president, all of the racists and white supremacists would have heart attacks.

That would be a spectacular sight. Sadly, I also think that a presidential election cycle of two black men (or two women, or two whatever non-white males) is probably the only way we'd have an election where people actually vetted the candidates fairly.

TD_washingtonredskins
January-13th-2011, 03:05 PM
That would be a spectacular sight. Sadly, I also think that a presidential election cycle of two black men (or two women, or two whatever non-white males) is probably the only way we'd have an election where people actually vetted the candidates fairly.

Why not just two white males? Just curious?

Mickalino
January-13th-2011, 03:05 PM
Sadly, I also think that a presidential election cycle of two black men (or two women, or two whatever non-white males) is probably the only way we'd have an election where people actually vetted the candidates fairly.

I agree

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That would be a spectacular sight. Sadly, I also think that a presidential election cycle of two black men (or two women, or two whatever non-white males) is probably the only way we'd have an election where people actually vetted the candidates fairly.


Why not just two white males? Just curious?

Because white males who are associated with the Republican party or Tea Party, are typically seen as racist, while Democrats are supposed to the most indiscriminate, lovey, get-along with every racey, so the White Male Republican would be at a clear, unfair disadvantage ;)

Burgold
January-13th-2011, 03:10 PM
That would be a spectacular sight. Sadly, I also think that a presidential election cycle of two black men (or two women, or two whatever non-white males) is probably the only way we'd have an election where people actually vetted the candidates fairly.

I think I disagree. Afterall, almost everyone can name the first black baseball player. How many can name the fourth? Once the barrier has been broken the attention and disparity in treatment seems to diminish. Look at basketball... does anyone make any fuss about a black player making an NBA team anymore? Thankfully, there's almost no buzz whatsoever anymore about black qbs either.

TD_washingtonredskins
January-13th-2011, 03:11 PM
I agree

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Because white males who are associated with the Republican party or Tea Party, are typically seen as racist, while Democrats are supposed to the most indiscriminate, lovey, get-along with every racey, so the White Male Republican would be at a clear, unfair disadvantage ;)

But wouldn't people just toe the party lines if it was two women or two black men running against each other? That's all that happens now anyway.

gnuv
January-13th-2011, 03:12 PM
Why not just two white males? Just curious?

Now that you ask, I think I would like to believe that if 2012 were white guy A vs white guy B that they would both be vetted, but something in me just thinks a lot of people would vote R or D. I hope I am wrong.

Mickalino
January-13th-2011, 03:13 PM
But wouldn't people just toe the party lines if it was two women or two black men running against each other? That's all that happens now anyway.

Yes, it would just be limited to typical political vitriol, instead of a combination of racial, gender, and political vitriol.

gnuv
January-13th-2011, 03:14 PM
But wouldn't people just toe the party lines if it was two women or two black men running against each other? That's all that happens now anyway.

Possibly. But it might also cause someone of the same [whatever] to at least look at the opponent?

elkabong82
January-13th-2011, 03:15 PM
"american dream under attack" awesome, thanks for providing even more divisive and extreme rhetoric. facepalm

Mickalino
January-13th-2011, 03:17 PM
"american dream under attack" awesome, thanks for providing even more divisive and extreme rhetoric. facepalm

With about one out of every 10 people out of work, I'd say the American dream kind of sucks right now.

mjah
January-13th-2011, 03:18 PM
Yes, it would just be limited to typical political vitriol, instead of a combination of racial, gender, and political vitriol.
Nah. The "who's blacker" dialogue would start up instantly.

DjTj
January-13th-2011, 03:24 PM
That would be a spectacular sight. Sadly, I also think that a presidential election cycle of two black men (or two women, or two whatever non-white males) is probably the only way we'd have an election where people actually vetted the candidates fairly.If two brothers are running for President, I'm not voting for Cain. If I learned anything in Sunday school, it's that Cain was the evil one.

And seriously, a black guy was the President of "Godfather's Pizza?" Only in America.

Mickalino
January-13th-2011, 03:26 PM
Nah. The "who's blacker" dialogue would start up instantly.

But there would be no debate about that one. Cain wins that, hands-down :)

elkabong82
January-13th-2011, 03:26 PM
With about one out of every 10 people out of work, I'd say the American dream kind of sucks right now.

That's the correct way to express it. Saying it is under attack implies someone is purposefully trying to destroy it, which is asinine and stupid rhetoric.

Mickalino
January-13th-2011, 03:28 PM
That's the correct way to express it. Saying it is under attack implies someone is purposefully trying to destroy it, which is asinine and stupid rhetoric.

But do they have to be referring to someone ?

Could it be circumstances that are un-intended, indirect results of actions of people who are not qualified to deal with it ?

I could say that I've got cancer now, and under attack, but does that mean I'm directly blaming it on a person ?

GhostofSparta
January-13th-2011, 03:30 PM
If two brothers are running for President, I'm not voting for Cain. If I learned anything in Sunday school, it's that Cain was the evil one.

And seriously, a black guy was the President of "Godfather's Pizza?" Only in America.

Glad I'm not the only one who read "Godfather's Pizza" and expected to see some Italian guy. And I love how it works: you don't announce your candidacy, you announce you're forming a committee to explore whether or not you should run.

gnuv
January-13th-2011, 03:30 PM
But there would be no debate about that one. Cain wins that, hands-down :)

Wouldn't it be ironic for Obama to lose because he was too white?

As an aside, if >90% of black people voted for an insane, right-wing ****** (i had to guess here) that was black, does that still mean he was far and away the best candidate?

Mickalino
January-13th-2011, 03:33 PM
Glad I'm not the only one who read "Godfather's Pizza" and expected to see some Italian guy.

This is corporate america we're talking about. There are no stereotypes when it comes to running million-dollar fast-food places.
As far as I know, Taco Bell isn't run by a Mexican CEO :ols:

elkabong82
January-13th-2011, 03:46 PM
But do they have to be referring to someone ?

Could it be circumstances that are un-intended, indirect results of actions of people who are not qualified to deal with it ?

I could say that I've got cancer now, and under attack, but does that mean I'm directly blaming it on a person ?

You don't think that leaving it open allows, or prompts, listeners to fill in the blank? Especially his followers, who are activists and probably looking to assign blame.

addicted
January-13th-2011, 03:46 PM
Well hell guess that means one of the top issues facing the next President will be why some pizza places like Pizza Hut charge an additional $2 when ordering X-Tra cheese even on deals that include toppings. What's up with that? Way I figure it, Haliburton and Golden Nut Sacks bought the government this past decade so why can't a pizza business loser get in on the action too?

Predicto
January-13th-2011, 03:51 PM
With about one out of every 10 people out of work, I'd say the American dream kind of sucks right now.

Bootstraps! Didja break em or something? :silly:

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Wouldn't it be ironic for Obama to lose because he was too white?

As an aside, if >90% of black people voted for an insane, right-wing ****** (i had to guess here) that was black, does that still mean he was far and away the best candidate?


Dunno. Ask Alan Keyes how well he's done so far. :)

Mickalino
January-13th-2011, 03:57 PM
That's the correct way to express it. Saying it is under attack implies someone is purposefully trying to destroy it, which is asinine and stupid rhetoric.


You don't think that leaving it open allows, or prompts, listeners to fill in the blank? Especially his followers, who are activists and probably looking to assign blame.

Much like Obama calling Republicans the enemy ? :)

elkabong82
January-13th-2011, 04:00 PM
Much like Obama calling Republicans the enemy ? :)

Exactly, although he did issue a correction of that I believe, but yes, that's another example of what I'm talking about.

SnyderShrugged
January-13th-2011, 04:25 PM
Is there a rule that says that in order to own a pizza chain, you have to be an insane, right-wing *******?


I finally was able to watch the vids. What is it about him that is insane?

sadly, I think he is a lil too tea-o-con for my taste, but I will keep looking into him anyway (mainly because he seems better than the rest of the crap that might be running thus far)

DRSmith
January-13th-2011, 05:12 PM
I hope the grown ups get more say in the primaries and someone like Romney gets the nod

Mickalino
January-13th-2011, 05:15 PM
I hope the grown ups get more say in the primaries and someone like Romney gets the nod

I don't think it was the young crowd that picked John McCain :ols:

DRSmith
January-13th-2011, 05:18 PM
I don't think it was the young crowd that picked John McCain :ols:

Nope but the religous right were attacking him for being a Mormon

I think him with someone like Condi Rice as a VP may do a good job

By grown up I mean not the extemists, the people who want litmus tests

Mickalino
January-13th-2011, 05:23 PM
Didn't Condi say she wanted no part of that job ?

DRSmith
January-13th-2011, 05:25 PM
Didn't Condi say she wanted no part of that job ?

Probably though I think her brains and persepctive would bring a lot to the job

SnyderShrugged
January-13th-2011, 06:33 PM
I hope the grown ups get more say in the primaries and someone like Romney gets the nod


Guelph Ontario ??

Why does it even matter to you and why, oh why would you want the side burn sportin neo-con?

DRSmith
January-13th-2011, 06:35 PM
Guelph Ontario ??

Why does it even matter to you and why, oh why would you want the side burn sportin neo-con?

The actions countries take affect one another

And being half American you also want what is best for your family living in a particular country

I think in somethings Romney is very smart and has a good handle on things I do not see foriegn politicy as a strength for him

Mickalino
January-13th-2011, 06:56 PM
Guelph Ontario ??

Why does it even matter to you and why, oh why would you want the side burn sportin neo-con?

How do you know he's not an American citizen who fled to Canada when Obama was elected, and it waiting until calm returns, before he comes back to the States ? ;)

elkabong82
January-13th-2011, 07:23 PM
How do you know he's not an American citizen who fled to Canada when Obama was elected, and it waiting until calm returns, before he comes back to the States ? ;)

lol, if that's the case then it means he is a desrter and doesn't support Aerica as a whole, nor does he operate in the realm of rationality, and hence would not desrve election, to answer your joke seriously.

twa
January-13th-2011, 08:27 PM
I wanna see a Chinese mother run....straighten ya'lls **** right out.

mjah
January-13th-2011, 11:06 PM
But there would be no debate about that one. Cain wins that, hands-down :)
Well, I didn't say the "blacker" guy would necessarily be declared the "winner" of the comparison. That's all in the eye of the beholder.

But yeah, the half-white guy probably is going to be whiter than the black guy.

Hubbs
January-14th-2011, 12:09 AM
If we're gonna have an all-black-guy race, I demand that the leader of the Rent Is Too Damn High Party gets equal time. He's got a blackbelt in karate, you know.

Mickalino
January-14th-2011, 08:51 AM
Well, I didn't say the "blacker" guy would necessarily be declared the "winner" of the comparison. That's all in the eye of the beholder.

But yeah, the half-white guy probably is going to be whiter than the black guy.

Obama isn't just whiter by genetics, but he's whiter in every other way, including mannerisms, personality, etc

twa
January-14th-2011, 08:57 AM
I hate how mannerisms and personality ect are used that way

Mickalino
January-14th-2011, 08:59 AM
I hate how mannerisms and personality ect are used that way

That's very white of you to say that :silly:

mjah
January-14th-2011, 11:58 AM
Obama isn't just whiter by genetics, but he's whiter in every other way, including mannerisms, personality, etc
Who said I was only referring to genetics?

Predicto
January-14th-2011, 12:01 PM
Obama isn't just whiter by genetics, but he's whiter in every other way, including mannerisms, personality, etc

Yeah, Punahoe and Columbia and Harvard and U Chicago will do that to a guy. At least he can still shoot hoops. :)

mcsluggo
January-14th-2011, 02:18 PM
wait.... so you are saying obama is too asian now?