You're starting a Franchise.... (NBA Game)

[Taylor 21]

Let's play a game. I thought it would be fun so I started the thread.

"If you were starting a franchise, who would you take _______ or ________?"
I will post 2 NBA players. The person who replies to the post must choose one of those two players, and say WHY. Then after answering the previous posters question, the poster must put up two players of their own. Pretty simple.

Since I am first, I will just post two players.

Kevin Durant or Derrick Rose?

[Forehead]

Let's play a game. I thought it would be fun so I started the thread.

"If you were starting a franchise, who would you take _______ or ________?"
I will post 2 NBA players. The person who replies to the post must choose one of those two players, and say WHY. Then after answering the previous posters question, the poster must put up two players of their own. Pretty simple.

Since I am first, I will just post two players.

Kevin Durant or Derrick Rose?

Durant without question. I can always find a lesser point guard to get him the ball, the guy is a pure scorer and in my opinion, possibly the best combination of talent and young age (time to mature and contribute more) in the NBA today.


Tim Duncan or Kevin Garnett? I want to see who is more popular amongst long in the tooth power forwards.

[Shabby]

Tim Duncan. He's the best PF of all time. Some people even think since he was one of the best players in the past decade, that he is still one of the top 5 players in the NBA. (sound idiotic, but thats how some people think.)

I love KGs passion though. He loves to trash talk, but he definitely backs it up.

Amare Stoudemire or Kevin Love

[KDawg]

KG because I like energy (and I'm biased)

Larry Bird or Magic Johnson

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Tim Duncan. He's the best PF of all time. Some people even think since he was one of the best players in the past decade, that he is still one of the top 5 players in the NBA. (sound idiotic, but thats how some people think.)

I love KGs passion though. He loves to trash talk, but he definitely backs it up.

Amare Stoudemire or Kevin Love

Stoudemire.

Bird or Magic?

[Taylor 21]

KG because I like energy (and I'm biased)

Larry Bird or Magic Johnson

Man that is tough. Magic Johnson, I really have no answer to why I would choose him because I would be happy with both, but i love Magic's style.

Jamal Crawford or JR Smith.

[terrifNick21]

Man that is tough. Magic Johnson, I really have no answer to why I would choose him because I would be happy with both, but i love Magic's style.

Jamal Crawford or JR Smith.

Jamal Crawford. Seems to be more consistent than Smith and isn't as much of a show off.


Rudy Gay or Danny Granger

[Forehead]

Amare Stoudemire or Kevin Love

I might go with Kevin Love here. I'm probably biased against Stoudemire here, I just remember thinking he was a product of Steve Nash...needed someone to get him the ball and didn't have much game other than catch-and-dunk. I know he's thriving with the Knicks but I can't get my early impression of him out of my mind.

Love, on the other hand, is someone who won't score a ton but will do a team's dirty work, and has a chance of getting 20 rebounds a night. You need someone like that on your team. Now, if I'm starting a team and these are my only two choices in the first round, I probably have to take Stoudemire if it's my first round pick because there's no guarantee a good scorer will be available in the second round. But if I'm building a team, I might lean towards Love.

He's also a hell of a passer.

I won't put a new one up since I didn't answer the newest one.

[Taylor 21]

Rudy Gay or Danny Granger

Rudy Gay. It's close, but i think Rudy Gay is a better player. This season was Rudy Gay's breakout season. His shooting % is terrific, especially from downtown. He's a better defender than Granger as well.

Chris Paul or Daron Williams.

[HailinginSeattle]

Daron Williams, he's a better scorer.

Blake Griffin or Dwight Howard

[MattFancy]

Blake Griffin. He seems like he has more rounded game than Howard.

Derrick Rose or John Wall

[fullnelson9999]

Blake Griffin. He seems like he has more rounded game than Howard.

Derrick Rose or John Wall

Derrick Rose. He's so much more of a complete player than Wall is, and Wall can ever be.

I would actually take Derrick Rose over any player in the league if I were starting a team.

[Kosher Ham]

Shaq or Kobe ? Since fn9999 wasn't paying attention.

[terrifNick21]

Shaq or Kobe ? Since fn9999 wasn't paying attention.

Kobe. Can take over at any point, make shots from everywhere, and is as clutch as they come from the free throw line.

Russell Westbrook or Tony Parker?

[ACW]

Parker, because I don't know as much about Westbrook.

Okay, the obvious: LeBron or Kobe?

[KDawg]

Kobe. Dislike LeBron immensely.

Westbrook or my boy Rondo?

[Kosher Ham]

Kobe. Dislike LeBron immensely.

Westbrook or my boy Rondo?



Westbrook. He can hit free throws.

Hedo or Dirk ?

[No Excuses]

Hedo or Dirk? Is that serious lol? Even McD5 would have a hard time picking Hedo ...

Rasheed Wallace or Chris Webber.

[fullnelson9999]

Shaq or Kobe ? Since fn9999 wasn't paying attention.

Psh. My browser was acting up and wasn't letting me edit the post.

[Kosher Ham]

Hedo or Dirk? Is that serious lol? Even McD5 would have a hard time picking Hedo ...

Rasheed Wallace or Chris Webber.

haha, At least you got it.

Wallace. Without blinking an eye.

Steve Nash or John Stockton ?

[fullnelson9999]

haha, At least you got it.

Wallace. Without blinking an eye.

Steve Nash or John Stockton ?

Nash. Stockton was fantastic, but Nash seems to me to be better at making other players better.

Hakeem Olajuwon or David Robinson?

[RonArtest15]

Nash. Stockton was fantastic, but Nash seems to me to be better at making other players better.

Hakeem Olajuwon or David Robinson?

Olajuwon...dude CARRIED the Rockets pretty much by himself to the 1st championship. Just think about NBA champions...for the most part, you have two superstars on the roster (pistons were the exception but their balance was almost unmatched)...Olajuwon brought it all...offense/defense. Made David Robinson look stupid w. the Dream Shake. One of, if not THE best passing center in NBA history. Not much more you can say about him. Flat out dominant.


carrying w. the thread theme:

Rajon Rondo or Derrick Rose

[terrifNick21]

Parker, because I don't know as much about Westbrook.

Okay, the obvious: LeBron or Kobe?

Ahhhh. I love Westbrook. You should watch the OKC/Orlando game on TNT right now.

[Dr. Do Itch Big]

Olajuwon...dude CARRIED the Rockets pretty much by himself to the 1st championship. Just think about NBA champions...for the most part, you have two superstars on the roster (pistons were the exception but their balance was almost unmatched)...Olajuwon brought it all...offense/defense. Made David Robinson look stupid w. the Dream Shake. One of, if not THE best passing center in NBA history. Not much more you can say about him. Flat out dominant.

carrying w. the thread theme:

Rajon Rondo or Derrick Rose
Rose

Deron Williams or Steve Nash.

[daveakl]

Williams, he can win in the playoffs with defense better then Nash can.

Jordon or Wilt

[DieselPwr44]

Rose

Deron Williams or Steve Nash.

Deron Williams.

Has Steve Nash ever played defense in his life?

Carmelo Anthony or Paul Pierce

[KDawg]

Deron Williams.

Has Steve Nash ever played defense in his life?

Carmelo Anthony or Paul Pierce

I feel blasphemous and dirty... Carmelo Anthony.

Here's a different way of doing one:

Shaq (in his prime) or Dwight Howard?

[No Excuses]

Shaq and it's not even close for me. Howard might be a better defender but he will never be the low post nightmare Shaq was.

Shaq or Olajuwon?

[daveakl]

Shaq and it's not even close for me. Howard might be a better defender but he will never be the low post nightmare Shaq was.

Shaq or Olajuwon?

Olajuwon. I think he has the ability to make everybody better around him as well as not be a liability at the foul line at the end of a playoff game.

I'll ask again: Jordan or Wilt

[CoolUsernameHere]

I'll ask again: Jordan or Wilt

Jordan.
Mainly because I actually saw him play and saw the magic winning factor he brought to his team. I never was fortunate enough to see Wilt play.

Al Horford or Joakim Noah (two former championship Gators)?

[daveakl]

Noah if I am going for a championship, Horford if I am trying to win regular season games.

Barkley or Pippen

[ECU-ALUM]

Noah if I am going for a championship, Horford if I am trying to win regular season games.

Barkley or Pippen

Pippen: Better defender and quicker off the dribble.

Dominque Wilkins or Clyde Drexler?

[TGI Jef]

Pippen: Better defender and quicker off the dribble.

Dominque Wilkins or Clyde Drexler?

tough one

as prospects, Drexler. as far as how their careers turned out, Nique.

Greg Oden or Brandon Roy RIGHT NOW? (ha sorry blazers fans)

[Dukes and Skins]

tough one

as prospects, Drexler. as far as how their careers turned out, Nique.

Greg Oden or Brandon Roy RIGHT NOW? (ha sorry blazers fans)

Roy I think he'll come back and be the player that he was with Oden we'll never know

How about Rick Barry vs Jerry West?

[daveakl]

Jerry West. He can build you a championship after he is done winning them as a player :D

Ewing or Reggie Miller

[RedskinsFan28]

Reggie Miller. He had that killer instinct that Ewing didn't always have (Check out ESPN's 30 for 30 on these two).

Arvydas Sabonis or Vlade Divac?

[No Excuses]

I've only watched limited footage of Sabonis but I've read a lot about him. Experts believed he could have been an all time great in the NBA and that he had a ridiculous skill set for a man his size. Even of the game footage I've seen of him, he did things that people his size just can't.

I'd have to go with him over Vlade the flopper.

Chris Bosh or Carlos Boozer?

[Dukes and Skins]

I've only watched limited footage of Sabonis but I've read a lot about him. Experts believed he could have been an all time great in the NBA and that he had a ridiculous skill set for a man his size. Even of the game footage I've seen of him, he did things that people his size just can't.

I'd have to go with him over Vlade the flopper.

Chris Bosh or Carlos Boozer?

Tough call not a big fan of Bosh but not also with Boozer but I think I'd take Boozer I know he's undersized but he is a very good PF

Oops forgot the question:

Monta Ellis or Russell Westbrook?

[mcterry7]

Tough call not a big fan of Bosh but not also with Boozer but I think I'd take Boozer I know he's undersized but he is a very good PF

Oops forgot the question:

Monta Ellis or Russell Westbrook?

Russell Westbrook. He doesn't need as many shots as Monta to get his points. Plus, Westbrook has shown he can still put up great numbers alongside a great player. Doesn't need to be the star of the show.

Chris Paul or Steve Nash?

[Kosher Ham]

Chris Paul. I think Nash is a piss poor defender and pretty much a one trick pony.

Dennis Scott or Lamar Odom ?

[ACW]

Odom because I don't know who Scott is :ols:

Which MJ, Magic or Michael.

[G.A.C.O.L.B.]

Sabonis, even with his bad knees, crushes Divac. With good knees, Sabonis is one the best big men ever. Shame he came to the States after the fact.


Derrick Rose. He's so much more of a complete player than Wall is, and Wall can ever be.

How so? On the can ever be part.


Blake Griffin or Kevin Durant?

[Kosher Ham]

Sabonis, even with his bad knees, crushes Divac. With good knees, Sabonis is one the best big men ever. Shame he came to the States after the fact.

Blake Griffin or Kevin Durant?

100% agree about Sabonis. He and Hakeem are IMO both in the discussion of top 5 at the position of all time.

This is a tough one. I love both of these players. Gonna go with Durant because I believe he is more versatile.

Rod Strickland or Danny Ainge ?

[ACW]

Odom because I don't know who Scott is :ols:

Which MJ, Magic or Michael.:attention:

[daveakl]

Danny Ainge I guess. Better in the post season and can play baseball if a game breaks out. :)

Len Bias or Ralph Sampson

[Kosher Ham]

Len Bias every time. Sampson was over hyped.


I am biased as a friend of the family though.

Tony Kukoc or Tony Parker ?

[daveakl]

Kukoc if I can get him over here for his entire pro career, Parker if I can't. I think Kukoc was the better player but a lot of his time was spent overseas (like some others in this thread) so its a little harder to see how good he was.

Dr J or LBJ

[skinfan2k]

Len Bias every time. Sampson was over hyped.


I am biased as a friend of the family though.

Tony Kukoc or Tony Parker ?

Wow really where are you getting some of your ideas from. I like Kukoc as a great 6th man but I would take parker. His game is another level since he entered the league

Dennis Rodman or Charles Oakley

[Kosher Ham]

Wow really where are you getting some of your ideas from. I like Kukoc as a great 6th man but I would take parker. His game is another level since he entered the league

Dennis Rodman or Charles Oakley

So you would take Sampson over Bias ? The idea is to see who would take who...

Rodman. Easily.

Dennis Johnson, or Vinnie Johnson ?

[DieselPwr44]

So you would take Sampson over Bias ? The idea is to see who would take who...

Rodman. Easily.

Dennis Johnson, or Vinnie Johnson ?

DJ easy.
High basketball IQ and was a ball hawk on D. Bird once said he was the best player he ever played with.

Moses Malone or Dwight Howard.

[Skin'Em84]

DJ easy.
High basketball IQ and was a ball hawk on D. Bird once said he was the best player he ever played with.

Moses Malone or Dwight Howard.

Dwight...He's only 25 and athletically much more than Moses ever was. I'm too confidant in my ability to find a coach to train his skills.

Jason Kidd or Gary Payton (in their prime)

[Dukes and Skins]

Dwight...He's only 25 and athletically much more than Moses ever was. I'm too confidant in my ability to find a coach to train his skills.

Jason Kidd or Gary Payton (in their prime)

Tough call but I'd take Payton, true shutdown guy and a great PG, Kidd brings versatility with triple doubles but Payton would be great to work around

Magic or DR J?

[H@iL2Gibb$]

Tough call but I'd take Payton, true shutdown guy and a great PG, Kidd brings versatility with triple doubles but Payton would be great to work around

Magic or DR J?

Magic because of his size and court vision.

Sir Charles or The Mailman

[CoolUsernameHere]

Sir Charles or The Mailman

Very tough, but being an Auburn man I'll pick Barkley. I honestly loved watching both players, though.

Spud Webb or Nate Robinson?

[No Excuses]

Very tough, but being an Auburn man I'll pick Barkley. I honestly loved watching both players, though.

Spud Webb or Nate Robinson?

Webb had a fairly decent career and averaged 16 and 7 one season. Can't see Nate ever doing that.

An injury free Yao Ming or Dwight Howard?

[Dukes and Skins]

Webb had a fairly decent career and averaged 16 and 7 one season. Can't see Nate ever doing that.

An injury free Yao Ming or Dwight Howard?

Yao Ming has a better offensive game than Dwight, but Dwight IMO is the better defender, tough call but I'd take Dwight and get a coach who can develop his offensive game to go along with his D he has.

Kevin Garnett vs Duncan in their prime? I know it was brought up them now but what about in their prime

[No Excuses]

Yao Ming has a better offensive game than Dwight, but Dwight IMO is the better defender, tough call but I'd take Dwight and get a coach who can develop his offensive game to go along with his D he has.

Kevin Garnett vs Duncan in their prime? I know it was brought up them now but what about in their prime

Duncan and honestly it's not even close for me. I'd take Duncan over Garnett in any circumstance.

Andrew Bogut or Joakim Noah?

[daveakl]

Joakim Noah, what he brings to a team will help you win championships, Bogut will put up better stats though.

Grant Hill or Chris Webber

[skinfan2k]

Duncan and honestly it's not even close for me. I'd take Duncan over Garnett in any circumstance.



I know right. Duncan was the player of his team that lead to 4 championships in 10 years while Garnett had to go chase his title in beantown and it was pierce who won them that title

[Kosher Ham]

Joakim Noah, what he brings to a team will help you win championships, Bogut will put up better stats though.

Grant Hill or Chris Webber

Without the injuries Hill. With the injuries Webber. Overall I guess I take Webber. Both players I don't like though.

Avery Johnson or Larry Johnson ?

[Taylor 21]

I know right. Duncan was the player of his team that lead to 4 championships in 10 years while Garnett had to go chase his title in beantown and it was pierce who won them that title


I agree I would take Duncan over Garnett. But when the Celtics won the title, Garnett was defensive player of the year that year. He managed the defense while he was on the court. Garnett anchored that number 1 (i think) defense at the time. He held Gasol to something like 14 and 10, while averaging 18 and 13 himself in the finals.



Avery Johnson or Larry Johnson ?

I like Larry Johnson more because he was more explosive... too bad he didnt work out with the skins....... :paranoid:

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Both of these in their primes.

Al Jefferson or Elton Brand

[RonArtest15]

Tim Duncan is arguably the BEST 4 to play in the NBA...I don't see how it's even debatable between him and Garnett...at all.

[skinfan2k]

[QUOTE=Taylor 21;8112418]I agree I would take Duncan over Garnett. But when the Celtics won the title, Garnett was defensive player of the year that year. He managed the defense while he was on the court. Garnett anchored that number 1 (i think) defense at the time. He held Gasol to something like 14 and 10, while averaging 18 and 13 himself in the finals.

who cares? duncan has been on the all nba defensive team forever

[No Excuses]

Al Jefferson or Elton Brand

It's hard to pick. Prime Elton Brand was a really good player. Al Jefferson has a really nice offensive game but he hasn't gotten a chance to get recognition for his play yet. It'll be interesting to see how he performs for Utah down the stretch. I'd have to go with Brand simply based on longevity.

prime Manu Ginobili or prime Ray Allen?

[Taylor 21]

who cares? duncan has been on the all nba defensive team forever

I care? The only reason why i posted those stats was in response to whoever said Pierce got them the title. I just felt like saying why I thought Garnett had something to do with it. I did not intend to offend you.



prime Manu Ginobili or prime Ray Allen?

I may be the only one to say this but I dont think this is close at all. As good as Manu is, I'd still take Ray Allen in a heartbeat. He is, in my opinion, the greatest shooter ever in the NBA. Plus, i think his defense is underrated.

Both of these in their prime.

Gilbert Arenas or Tracy McGrady

[bishtw]

Gil, He had one of my favorite nicknames of all times, much love for Agent Zero :silly:

Jason Kidd or Steve Nash?

[Taylor 21]

I like that question. Id take Rondo right now, his passing is ridiculous. Russel has a better polished offensive game though, but I'd still take Rondo.

John Wall or Tyreke Evans

[No Excuses]

Hard to say because Tyreke had a great rookie year but I also don't like his skill set all that much. Not a great shooter and relies too much on driving and absorbing contact. But he doesn't have the passing skills or the floor vision that Wall has.He also doesn't have the greatest attitude so I'll have to give Wall the edge. A pure point guard is more valuable than a good combo guard.

Alonzo Mourning or Dwight Howard?

[ACW]

Hard to say because Tyreke had a great rookie year but I also don't like his skill set all that much. Not a great shooter and relies too much on driving and absorbing contact. But he doesn't have the passing skills or the floor vision that Wall has.He also doesn't have the greatest attitude so I'll have to give Wall the edge. A pure point guard is more valuable than a good combo guard.

Alonzo Mourning or Dwight Howard?Didn't see 'Zo play much, so Dwight.

Blake Griffin or John Wall (and Magic Johnson or MJ?)?

[Jethrodsp]

Nice thread. Im a late to the party but Ive got a few cents to throw in.



Gilbert Arenas or Tracy McGrady

McGrady was an unstoppable scorer for 4 or 5 years in Orlando. No one except for Kobe could rise up and hit the three at will like he could.

McGrady.



Rod Strickland or Danny Ainge ?

Championships speak to me.

Ainge



Jason Kidd or Gary Payton (in their prime)

Of course Kidd has had the more sustained success but for a few years Gary Payton was Rajon Rondo before there was a Rajon Rondo. If we're cherry picking just a few years,

Payton.



Magic or DR J?

Seriously...

Magic



Carmelo Anthony or Paul Pierce

Based on what Pierce has done recently in the playoffs, I gotta take him over Carmelo. The guy is cold blooded.

Pierce



Dominque Wilkins or Clyde Drexler?

Wilkins had the highlights but Ill take The Glide went to the finals with both the Blazers and the Rockets. Yet another guy who was denied a title by the Bulls. Lucky for him he got a couple with the Rockets while MJ was flirting with cheating on basketball with minor league baseball. Really, I dont think this one is even close.

Clyde Drexler



Chris Bosh or Carlos Boozer?

Im a traditionalist. I like more natural fits on the frontline.

Boozer



Which MJ, Magic or Michael.

One was the best player ever to play. The other was the best point guard ever to play.

Michael

And heres mine.

Which Hardaway:
Penny or Tim?

[Taylor 21]

If Penny could have stayed healthy, i think he would have been a really good player, but since he couldnt, Ill have to go with Tim.

Carmelo Anthony or Kevin Durant

[Hitman21ST]

The Durantula. He's younger, already as talented, and his game is a lot more rounded.

Ray Allen or Reggie Miller?

[Hokie28]

Allen. Their career numbers are fairly equal in almost every category, but Allen did that in 300 less games.

Allen is not a great defender, but definitely better then Miller.


Carmelo or Amare?

[Hitman21ST]

Allen. Their career numbers are fairly equal in almost every category, but Allen did that in 300 less games.

Allen is not a great defender, but definitely better then Miller.


Carmelo or Amare?

Amare. Can play inside, outside, upside, downside, anywhere. Look what he has done with the Knickerbockers, almost singlehandedly.

Blake Griffin or Shaq?

[skinfan2k]

the young shaq easily. do you know how dominant shaq was?

Reggie Miller or Ray Allen

[Hitman21ST]

Reggie Miller or Ray Allen

:nono:

:secret: look at post 71...