Was this the worst decade of music ever ?

[Mickalino]

Now that the decade is officially over (not sure if it technically ended in Jan 2011, or Jan 2010, but in either case it's over), can we now say it was the worst decade of music ever ?

Seriously, what stands out in this past decade of music ?
Does any artist(s) stand out, to the degree that certain artists did in previous decades ?
Who defined the decade ?

Seems to me like the quality of music has gradually declined since the 70's, which were arguably the best or one of the best decades of music ever.

[Teller]

I think music has to be evaluated with some distance from it. You can't evaluate a decade of music during that decade. I think the real test is seeing how a particular period of music holds up in 10, 20, 30 years. There is some stuff out there right now that I think will hold up. And there's some that we'll hear a couple decades from now and think, "we actually used to listen to that ****?" I think that's true of every decade though. As great as the 70s were, they have to own disco. :ols:

[Mickalino]

And there's some that we'll hear a couple decades from now and think, "we actually used to listen to that ****?" I think that's true of every decade though.

But I'm asking myself that question of THIS decade.....that's not a good sign of how we'll look back on it, in the future :ols:

[Bang]

hell no it's not.
Music has exploded, Bands everywhere have access to inexpensive GOOD recording software.
There's a LOT of good stuff out there. It's just a little harder to find. Radio is completly sold out, "record stores" are gone.
But it's out there. You just need to look. I do a 'net radio show on Wednesdays and I play a LOT of new music.

~Bang

[G.A.C.O.L.B.]

This decade has sucked hard. There's not too much that stands out for me. No super classics that changed the entire landscape of music and culture (While also being good. Sorry Lil John.) The 80's were pretty gay though,

[Teller]

hell no it's not.
Music has exploded, Bands everywhere have access to inexpensive GOOD recording software.
There's a LOT of good stuff out there. It's just a little harder to find. Radio is completly sold out, "record stores" are gone.
But it's out there. You just need to look. I do a 'net radio show on Wednesdays and I play a LOT of new music.

~Bang

I agree with that. CHUBAKAH introduced me to Ozomatli. You want music? Boom. That's it right there. Those guys borrow from every genre, every custom, every music style, and work it into a ridiculously awesome concoction. They're one of those groups that you can listen to a thousand times and hear something different each time.

Ghey as it sounds too, I really think Michael Buble is one of those real enduring talent types. I'm not gonna throw him in the Sinatra/Tony Bennett category yet, obviously, but I think he's got nearly that kind of potential. His range is impressive too. Both vocally and in terms of the stuff he does.

I like music that is musical; complex. And you're right. It's out there if you dig for it. The crap that you have to claw through to get there has been there in most decades I think.

---------- Post added February-3rd-2011 at 10:21 PM ----------

I also think that as we get older, we reminisce about "our" music, and the memories we made to it. It's not surprising that we find ourselves a little put off by the stuff "the kids" listen to nowdays.

[Sticksboi05]

1990-1999
2000-2009

so the decade ended back New Year's 2009.


Depends...on one hand, for hip-hop. Yes. You can say all you want about underground and random no names but in the 80's and early-mig 90's I didn't need to look far for classic albums. The mainstream was full of classics from Raising Hell and It Takes a Nation of Millions to Illmatic and Ready to Die.

For pop music...the amount of talent necessary to become super famous in general has dropped severely over the years. Even the Backstreet Boys had talent vocally...Bieber? Ke$ha? Perry? Gaga has talent though.

But the explosion of the World Wide Web has given access to so many local acts we never would've seen in the past and has opened access to so much music for different people even if most of it is illegally downloaded.

Double-edged sword. Can't call it "the worst."

The 70's had disco which had a couple good acts like the Bee Gees and Earth, Wind and Fire among garbage and more garbage although it was never made for listening to, it was strictly dance music. There's "good" and "bad" music every decade it's just that over time, the bad is forgotten and we think it was a paradise of brilliant stuff. But again, at least alot of the disco groups played instruments. If you have talent, I'll give you respect.

I WILL say that if I was on a desert island and had one decade to choose from it would be the 70's or if a ten year period, 1965-1975. Give me some Stevie, Zeppelin, Beatles etc. and I'm good. 99% of my friends have a good amount of classic rock on their iPods. Will the same hold true for today's pop rap garbage? Who knows.

But to say there wasn't a bunch of good music from the 2000's would be false. Just don't turn on the radio or you'll suffer the consequences of teenage girls picking what's popular.

[Bang]

also think that as we get older, we reminisce about "our" music, and the memories we made to it. It's not surprising that we find ourselves a little put off by the stuff "the kids" listen to nowdays.

I agree. You have to try to hear the music from the perspective of the artists, and their genration is not our generation. Their frames of reference are different than ours for a lot of things. Music is a reflection of our times, and even though most of us rock and roll fans were only kids or younger during the sixties and early seventies, just as it allowed us a glimpse into the soul of that generation, music today helps us glimpse into the soul of the youth of today. And, I might add, I think it is a MUCH more honest glimpse than we got then. The sunshiney protesty consciousy sixties all turned out to be a big lie, and the "truth" the music tells today is much more close to honest.

By the by, psychedelia is alive and well, and guitars have made a BIG comeback. I love it.

~Bang

[fullnelson9999]

Nothing can top the 80s. It had its bright spots, but was pretty bad.

This past decade had so much music that you really can't say whether it was good or bad. You would have to sort through so much content.

[Teller]

Bang's last post = required reading.

Spot on, brother.

[Elessar78]

No way. Like bang said, you can't rely on radio and the popular music venues to introduce you to good musicians. There is some really great music out there... you just have to dig deep.

I've always felt that most popular/mainstream music is written (or merely performed) and to some degree obscure, indie stuff... written by people in their late teens and early twenties. Whatever they sing about, I just can't relate to anymore. Plus, with time, good musicians get even better. They know music better, they know their instruments better.

[Sticksboi05]

Nothing can top the 80s. It had its bright spots, but was pretty bad.

This past decade had so much music that you really can't say whether it was good or bad. You would have to sort through so much content.

Rock Me Amadeus :silly:

[boofMcboof]

There was quite a bit of stuff I liked earlier this past decade. Lucy Pearl/Raphael Saadiq, RATM- Renegade, a lot of downtempo and electronica stuff from J Boogie, Mark Farina, King Kooba etc, RHCP- By the Way and Stadium Arcadium, great hip hop in Blackalicious, Lyrics Born, J-Live . . .

There's been quality but the quantity of quality in mainstream music is not there.

[Elessar78]

Triumph by Wu Tang came on my ipod today. That came out in 97! Thirteen years ago and it's still better than most of the hip hop rap garbage that they put out now. Someone in the know, introduce me to the modern day Wu Tang!!

[Sticksboi05]

Triumph by Wu Tang came on my ipod today. That came out in 97! Thirteen years ago and it's still better than most of the hip hop rap garbage that they put out now. Someone in the know, introduce me to the modern day Wu Tang!!

Stick to Enter the Wu.

[Mr. Sinister]

Triumph by Wu Tang came on my ipod today. That came out in 97! Thirteen years ago and it's still better than most of the hip hop rap garbage that they put out now. Someone in the know, introduce me to the modern day Wu Tang!!

I've pretty much separated "rap" from " hip hop" for awhile now. There is a big difference in lyrical quality, delivery, and the overall feel when it comes to hip hop, at least for me.

As far as this being the worst decade, I'm not so sure. There are still a lot of good artists out there making good music, across all genres. For some reason however, it's not making it to the radio stations. "Mainstream America" doesn't want to hear good music anymore.

[STBonecrusher21]

For my tastes, its been dead for quite a while now.

[Stadium-Armory]

I was huge in to music in the 90s (mostly Jam bands), traveled to see shows all over the place, went to Bonnaroo 1 in 2001 and then got burnt out and stopped seeking out music until about a year ago. Sort of Rip Van Whinkl'd, and when I woke up I found so many cool bands doing great poppy stuff with great hooks, and I'm re-energized to explore music and find new things. Here are a few of my recent favorites:

Broken Bells, James Mercer (LS of the Shins) and Danger Mouse:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gWBG1j_flrg

Whitest Boys Alive, these guys are German and don't tour much around here. The last 2 min of this song is awesome.

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El Ten Eleven, two guys and a bunch of pedals:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=blUBqMeDDc8

The Black Keys, two other guys who rock it:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QvE6lW6q6S8&feature=related

Das Racist. A friend recently turned me on to these idiots. I think this **** is genius.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SIt2CdbBo_w

[PokerPacker]

Good music is subjective. For me, there's a ton of great music that came out the last 10 years.

[Rdskns2000]

Each decade has good music and bad music.

What's changed now is how you find that music.

[Enter Apotheosis]

If you think this past decade was a bad one for music you simply weren't paying close enough attention, it's really that simple. We have an unprecedented level of access to music from all corners of the world courtesy of the internet and digital content. You can successfully argue that the mainstream scene sucks and that may very well be the result of radio stations pushing lowest common denominator type stuff even harder just to keep competitive... but the trade-off is well worth it when you consider the sheer diversity of what's available to everyone. All it takes is a basic level of familiarity with a computer to be able to do some quick digging, reach in, and pull out something you're really going to like.

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[Stadium-Armory]

Nice one's EA. I agree, tons of great stuff out there.

[boofMcboof]

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[RansomthePasserby]

There's been a ton of good music this decade, you just won't find it on the radio.

[lavar1156]

Compared to the 90's, the 2000's sucked big time. There were some good bands to emerge like The Killers, Linkin Park, and The Silversun Pickups but most of the mainstream stuff is crap. Someone please tell me what happened to Green Day. They were awesome in the 90's, but most of their newer stuff is garbage.

[Cheers, Beers and Mountaineers]

http://www.cracked.com/article_18983_5-complaints-about-modern-life-that-are-statistically-b.s._p2.html

Look at #1 on the list for what it's worth.

[Sticksboi05]

Compared to the 90's, the 2000's sucked big time. There were some good bands to emerge like The Killers, Linkin Park, and The Silversun Pickups but most of the mainstream stuff is crap. Someone please tell me what happened to Green Day. They were awesome in the 90's, but most of their newer stuff is garbage.

For rap/hip-hop I 100% agree but the late 90's had some real crap starting with The Macarena being one of the biggest songs ever and ending with the boy band/teen pop resurgence (Spice Girls, Britney etc.)

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Cracked can go suck one.

[Bubble Screen]

You guys hatin' on the 80s have no idea what you're talking about.

[Sticksboi05]

You guys hatin' on the 80s have no idea what you're talking about.

80's had great stuff sprinkled in with a bunch of horrible New Wave hair bands. Early 80's was the best with funk being popular although Appetite for Destruction argues that.

[Enter Apotheosis]

Compared to the 90's, the 2000's sucked big time.

It's entirely possible that your opinion of the 90s was overly rosy just because that's your "happy childhood memories" decade. That is... unless you actually liked The Backstreet Boys, N'Sync, Baha Men, Vanilla Ice, Chumbawamba (talk about a song that didn't hold up well (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2H5uWRjFsGc) :doh:), Eiffel 65, TLC, Ace of Bass, etc.


There were some good bands to emerge like The Killers, Linkin Park, and The Silversun Pickups

Well, your opinion has just lost all credibility :pfft:


For rap/hip-hop I 100% agree

Even that's highly debatable.

[Sticksboi05]

Even that's highly debatable.

Ready To Die, Illmatic, Enter the Wu, Reasonable Doubt, Mecca and the Soul Brother, Low End Theory, Midnight Marauders, The Chronic (overrated as it is), Moment of Truth, Hard to Earn, Slim Shady LP etc.

Don't think it's that close to me.

Vanilla Ice and MC Hammer were so bad they were good. Today's crap is just bad unless you are grinding which could be done just as well to some disco songs.

Lol, TLC. Well, they did the All That theme song so they get a pass.

[Enter Apotheosis]

Ready To Die, Illmatic, Enter the Wu, Reasonable Doubt, Mecca and the Soul Brother, Low End Theory, Midnight Marauders, The Chronic (overrated as it is), Moment of Truth, Hard to Earn, Slim Shady LP etc.

Don't think it's that close to me.

Vanilla Ice and MC Hammer were so bad they were good. Today's crap is just bad unless you are grinding which could be done just as well to some disco songs.

Lol, TLC. Well, they did the All That theme song so they get a pass.

It's easy to put the classics up on a pedestal regardless of the genre. They wouldn't be deemed classics to begin with if they weren't good and they didn't carry a certain nostalgia factor. However, if you suspend the nostalgia for just a little bit it you can see that it's really not leaps and bounds better than everything that came after it despite how much we want to believe it is.

[lavar1156]

You guys hatin' on the 80s have no idea what you're talking about.

Yea I definitely like some 80's stuff. I'm a big Depeche Mode fan along with U2, Tears for Fears, The Pretenders, The Pixies and let's not forget Tracy Chapman. I'm sure I'm forgetting some other bands I like.

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It's entirely possible that your opinion of the 90s was overly rosy just because that's your "happy childhood memories" decade. That is... unless you actually liked The Backstreet Boys, N'Sync, Baha Men, Vanilla Ice, Chumbawamba (talk about a song that didn't hold up well (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2H5uWRjFsGc) :doh:), Eiffel 65, TLC, Ace of Bass, etc.

My favorite genre of music is 90's alternative rock. My favorite band is the Smashing Pumpkins.

[Sticksboi05]

It's easy to put the classics up on a pedestal regardless of the genre. They wouldn't be deemed classics to begin with if they weren't good and they didn't carry a certain nostalgia factor. However, if you suspend the nostalgia for just a little bit it you can see that it's really not leaps and bounds better than everything that came after it despite how much we want to believe it is.

This isn't nostalgia for me. Other than te Slim Shady LP, those all were released before I started listening to music on my own in any form. Give me some albums that more than a local neighborhood would know that cameo out this past decade that could be considered hip-hop classics. I will concede Kanye's first album and maybe another of his and the Marshall Mathers LP (which was recorded in the 90's and released in 2000).

[Enter Apotheosis]

My favorite genre of music is 90's alternative rock. My favorite band is the Smashing Pumpkins.

Zeitgeist didn't do it for you, then? How about Zwan? Most of the big 90's alt bands are still going without a major drop-off in quality.

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This isn't nostalgia for me. Other than te Slim Shady LP, those all were released before I started listening to music on my own in any form. Give me some albums then that cameo ut this past decade that could be considered hip-hop classics. I will concede Kanye's first album and maybe another of his.

I don't know that I could come right out with something that would be considered a classic seeing as it's nearly impossible to predict what will hold up well in the collective conscious of everyone who listens to a given genre. It gets even more complicated when you consider how much the genre has expanded over the last 20 years. The terms "rap" and "hip-hop" are quickly becoming about as useful a classification as "rock" is when it's used in it's broadest sense.

[Bubble Screen]

My favorite genre of music is 90's alternative rock. My favorite band is the Smashing Pumpkins.

I like that song, "1979", of theirs. Granted, I can't think of another song of theirs I like off the top of my head, though.

Just curious, do you like Kings of Leon? I think they are pretty solid.

[sean_e_b]

Actually, it's probably the best decade for music ever. Most of the good music gets little to no radio play, but the internet gives so much accessibility to find new music.

Before anybody says anything about it being nostalgic or "the music I grew up with", let me state that I'm a music connoisseur and couldn't give two ****s whether something is popular to the mainstream or when it was recorded. Most of the music the "average" person my age listens to isn't nostalgic to me. . . just simply bad music.

[CoolUsernameHere]

I definitely don't think this was the worst decade of music. Like that Cracked article was trying to say, every decade has crappy music, it just doesn't get played years down the road. The good stuff, the classics, if you will, are what people hear for years to come.
That being said, the 80's must have been pretty bad.

[Bubble Screen]

I definitely don't think this was the worst decade of music. Like that Cracked article was trying to say, every decade has crappy music, it just doesn't get played years down the road. The good stuff, the classics, if you will, are what people hear for years to come.
That being said, the 80's must have been pretty bad.

Dude, the 80s was one of the better decades of music. These guys have it all wrong.

As for the question at hand? I wouldn't say its the worst. Not even close. To me, the 90s was probably the worst. Boy bands. Ugh. So ghey.

[Cheers, Beers and Mountaineers]

Anyone else find it find a little funny that sticksboi, a 20 year old, tries to define himself as THE definitive answer to pretty much everything. Hell, I saw a thread where he posted that Olivia Wilde is just a skinny ugly stick pretty much unworthy of much attention. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, but I'm sorry, but if you just go ahead and outright condemn Olivia Wilde like that, then you just might have the ghey, not that there is anything wrong with that.

[sean_e_b]

Anyone else find it find a little funny that sticksboi, a 20 year old, tries to define himself as THE definitive answer to pretty much everything. Hell, I saw a thread where he posted that Olivia Wilde is just a skinny ugly stick pretty much unworthy of much attention.

I agree with Sticksboi on that, I've seen pieces of twine thicker than her. She's close to being holocaust skinny. It's not like I'd take a 300 pound woman over her, but I'd say your average everyday woman is more attractive than her. She has a cute face, but I think if you find her sexy you'd probably find most 12 year olds sexy. I would honestly feel like a pedophile with her. Some people like me, and presumably Sticksboi, prefer women who actually look like WOMEN.

To get this back on topic, Miss Wilde did appear in a Dashboard Confessional video which wasn't half bad. . . Definitely not amongst the worst music has to offer.

[Mooney]

Dude, the 80s was one of the better decades of music. These guys have it all wrong.

As for the question at hand? I wouldn't say its the worst. Not even close. To me, the 90s was probably the worst. Boy bands. Ugh. So ghey.




"The eighties ****ing ruled, man, until that ***** Cobain came and ****ed it all up." - Randy "The Ram" Robinson

[ixcuincle]

Yes

This and the 90's

Largely music to forget

AND I KNOW THE MUSIC WORLD DOESN'T REVOLVE AROUND POP

But pop aka popular music is what we will best associate with the decade due to popularity

Who doesn't think of the music of the 2000's and think of Lady Gaga or Autotune

Come on

You're going to think of something else?

---------- Post added February-4th-2011 at 07:37 AM ----------

****, they are playing some previews of the Black Eyed Peas right now

If you don't think this was responsible for part of the worst music decade ever, I don't know what to tell you

[Bang]

If people anywhere think of any era in terms of it's "pop" then they're woefully ignorant from jump-street, and there's nothing you can do for them.
Put a few quarters in their cup and move on by. It's best not to think how he got there.

If you relate the 00s with Lady Gaga, you're one of these people.
If you relate the 90s to Spice Girls and The GooGoo Dolls and Billy Ray Cyrus, you're one of these people.
If you relate the 80s to Pet Shop Boys and Kajagugu and Poison, you're one of these people.
If you relate the 70s to Debbie Boone and Rupert Holmes and the Osmond Brothers, you're one of these people.
If you relate the 60s to 1910 Fruitgum Company and Bobby Sherman, you're one of these people.

And the only way you're going to relate like this is if you continually expose yourself to the garbage that is called "pop". I discovered a long time ago that those big glitzy in-your-face campaigns that shove these "stars" onto us are usually only done because the "artist" has something they can exploit quickly for a huge profit, and then discard if it doesn't stay hot.
Remember How big Hanson was? (Every year the crop of 11-14 yr old girls rotates .. so they keep an endless supply of bull**** in the feeding troughs.) I bet they have to pay to play at county fairs these days.
Once Justin Bieber's hairstyle fades from popularity, so will he, and the next kid with nice hair will take his spot for a year or so.

I'm insatiable, I need new music. I have SO much music, and nothing to listen to. I've heard it. I need new, and i need new NOW.
I can honestly say that I have never heard a Lady Gaga song all the way thru. I may have never even heard one, I just don't know. I can tell you that if you played one for me, even her biggest hit, I would not know who it is by listening to it, you'd have to tell me it was her.

Pop music is sellable music, and to be sellable that means you have to sound like the last artist that had brisk sales in Wal Mart. And that is what governs what gets played on the radio and in every single other outlet for "pop" music.
Now, go into a walmart. Any walmart. Look around. Those people you see? The obese waddlers in their magenta polyester stretch pants with the 4 kids trailing behind? THAT is who is making your musical choices.


For me, when you mention the 00s, I think of The Brian Jonestown Massacre, Dandy Warhols, Supergrass, Arctic Monkeys, ... and I've never heard one of them on the radio,, in fact, I can't recall the last time i listened to a musical format over-the-air radio station. They all suck. And I say that with utter confidence. They ALL suck. I used to like WRNR, it seemed to be the only radio station that was anything remotely close to the OLD and I mean OLD WHFS. (Not that DC101 clone it became near it's death..).. but now WRNR has no balls. It's good if you're an old dead-head or really enjoy whiny guys explaining their feelings with an acoustic guitar .. but it usually bores the hell out of me.

The OLD WHFS,, in the days when it was at 102.3 out of bethesda, and when it first moved to 99.1 in the early 80s... THAT was radio. No playlist. None, the DJs had free reign to play anything they wanted so long asd it met FCC rules. It was awesome. And it taught me to constantly look for what's new.

anyway, I'm off on a tangent.
the point is, that in music especially, what is popular is usually the worst tripe you can hear. It's shlocky, quick-manufactured, trite garbage meant to keep Massive Mrs WalMart tapping her fat stupid toe while she chews her cud and thinks of what she saw on "Big Brother" last night.

~Bang

[Elessar78]

i she's close to being holocaust skinny.

that's anti-semitic!!! Why not draw devil horns on every picture of her, hitler????

[Madison Redskin]

Quite a few good bands came out in the 2000s. A great band that I love that came out in the 2000s that a lot of people over 35 and under 20 don't know about is Band of Horses.

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[sideshow24]

This is the worst decade of music that I have lived through, but going way back there is a lot of suck out there.

[matty dread]

Easily the 80's for me. It was all style over substance. The hair bands were awful. I loved that trash as a young teen, but quickly snapped out of it once I got to college in '91 and the whole Seattle scene broke big.

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Quite a few good bands came out in the 2000s. A great band that I love that came out in the 2000s that a lot of people over 35 and under 20 don't know about is Band of Horses.


One of my favorite bands. Saw them open for Pearl Jam at the Garden in May '10.

Ben came out during PJ's encore and sang on 'Hunger Strike'. Just awesome.

[Madison Redskin]

One of my favorite bands. Saw them open for Pearl Jam at the Garden in May '10.

Ben came out during PJ's encore and sang on 'Hunger Strike'. Just awesome.

I tried to make that tour. I'm still pissed I missed out.

[China]

There's a LOT of good stuff out there. It's just a little harder to find. Radio is completly sold out, "record stores" are gone.
But it's out there. You just need to look. I do a 'net radio show on Wednesdays and I play a LOT of new music.

~Bang

I was having this discussion with my brother-in-law: how do kids nowadays find new music? His kids (high school and college age) don't listen to the radio. Is it all word of mouth?

I have found it hard to find new good music because you have to hunt for it. I've managed to be turned on to a few good bands/songs through the various music threads here at ES, but sometimes I want more, and I get tired of pouring through random music video links of bands I've never heard of, most of which turn out to suck, or at least not do anything for me.

In one of my efforts the other day I was trying to find your radio show that you mentioned, as I recall listening to it a while back and enjoyed it. I thought it would be another good source for music. I couldn't find it. Do you have a link for it? Are past shows available to listen to?

Thanks in advance.

[matty dread]

I agree with Bang. There's plenty of good music out there if you just look.

[Forehead]

I'm trying to decide here, and I settled on a ten year span of my own. Sidenote, I was raised on oldies by my father and love the 60's, 70's and even the goofy music of the 80's.

My post is strictly related to radio, I'm not really an underground, discover new acts sort of guy. In the early 90's, I was big into Metallica, Offspring, Live, Green Day, Alice in Chains, Pearl Jam, etc. It was a great time to grow up listening to music.

For me, it all came to a screeching halt around 1997. That was when techno suddenly became big, when crap like the Macarena was popular...I wish I could forget late high school dances. Techno started to die down a little, and then suddenly Britney Spears, N'Sync, and the like took over for the next 4-5 years. Now I'll admit that some of these bands could really sing their asses off, but it just wasn't my sort of music, and it was mostly what was on during my college years. Bands started to emerge after that, but really, what's the most memorable band from the early-mid 2000's from a radio standpoint? Maroon 5? Pass. Usher? Pass.

Now Offspring still put out pretty good stuff, as well as Green Day and some others I liked, but there just wasn't a whole lot of new stuff out there that grabbed me. I remember liking Audioslave a lot, but they aren't on the radio much.

So my official nomination is 1997-2006 as the worst decade of music, from my own personal viewpoint. I'm not sure it's gotten any better recently, when garbage like the Plain White T's is allowed to exist. But I can at least listen to current music stations now without feeling like I need to pull over and vomit.

[Pick6]

One of my favorite bands, Rise Against, has released about 4 albums this decade. I think the problem, like other has said, it is over exposure and you have to find the good stuff.


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[Bang]

I was having this discussion with my brother-in-law: how do kids nowadays find new music? His kids (high school and college age) don't listen to the radio. Is it all word of mouth?

I have found it hard to find new good music because you have to hunt for it. I've managed to be turned on to a few good bands/songs through the various music threads here at ES, but sometimes I want more, and I get tired of pouring through random music video links of bands I've never heard of, most of which turn out to suck, or at least not do anything for me.

In one of my efforts the other day I was trying to find your radio show that you mentioned, as I recall listening to it a while back and enjoyed it. I thought it would be another good source for music. I couldn't find it. Do you have a link for it? Are past shows available to listen to?

Thanks in advance.
I find it a lot on Pandora, and I keep my ear open when I'm around younger people. There's a whole crew of them that are with the company that hosts the station, and they all dig the show, so I am always asking them for recommendations and whatnot. So, say one of them tells me they like Band X.. I plug that into my Pandora and see what it gives me.

The link is http://radio.thebaynet.com/
The station looks awful, and it's going thru a facelift. So, if you find no mention of my show, don't worry,, you'll note it doesn't mention any of the shows.
I'm on wednesday nights at 7, but over the last 8 weeks or so I've been bumped for high school basketball broadcasts.. I come on after that, usually around 10.
The season is over, i think, so I should be back on my regular schedule starting this coming Wednesday.
Unfortunately they don't podcast it yet. It's something I'm pressing for. I usually do about 3 hours.. a bit much for a podcast.

I'll pop my thread for it back up when it's coming on to remind anyone interested.

Not everything I play is new. I play lots of stuff going back to the 50s. I try to touch all the eras most weeks.
I'm actually working up my playlist this morning, so I can tell you that the next show I'll be playing some Link Wray from 1955 or so ("Hillbilly Wolf"), some early Elvis, and some great rockabilly from the late great Ronnie Dawson.
From the 60s I'm going to play CCR, Uranus and the Five Moons, and some surf with the Penetrators, among other things.
From the 70s I've got some Dr Feelgood, and some Tom Petty (Even though the song isn't from the 70s,, he's pretty much a Classic Rock act.)
From the 80s I'm playing the Pixies, the Fall, and some Sonic Youth.
From the 90s I've got a bunch of stuff.. Stone Roses, Oasis, Dandy Warhols, Dinosaur Jr. Jon Spencer Blues Explosion, the Blue Hawaiians and more..
and from this decade I'll be playing some Supergrass, Coliseum, Bright Light Fever, Brian Jonestown Massacre, Soledad Brothers, Greg Dulli, Southern Culture on the Skids, Hosty and a lot of others.

Wednesday at 7 !

~Bang

[Busch1724]

The thing about the history of popular music is that each decade had its own creation, evolution, or new discovery.

The 20-50s saw a lot of Cajun, Country, Jazz, Blues, Rockabilly, etc.

The 60s saw the advent of psychelic, metal, blues based rock, funk, etc.

The 70s saw punk, disco, southern rock, Eddie Van Halen, power pop, the introduction of synthesizers, etc.

The 80s saw new wave, hair metal, thrash, the evolution of guitar playing as a result of Eddie, rap, the beginnings of grunge, and more use of synthesizers.

The 90s saw grunge come to fruition, less blues based rock, hip hop evovled, rap/rock, protools, pop grunge, etc.

The 00s saw what autotune and reality show stardom?


I think that is why most people see the last decade as something sub par because nothing of note was really introduced. The music didn't really evolve, it was just a repackaging of old forms of music with updated production techniques and hiding talent with technology.

[Pick6]

The thing about the history of popular music is that each decade had its own creation, evolution, or new discovery.

The 00s saw what autotune and reality show stardom?


I think that is why most people see the last decade as something sub par because nothing of note was really introduced. The music didn't really evolve, it was just a repackaging of old forms of music with updated production techniques and hiding talent with technology.

This decade did have mash ups. Mixing of a two or more songs to make a new one. Not bad if done right.

[authentic]

Now that the decade is officially over (not sure if it technically ended in Jan 2011, or Jan 2010, but in either case it's over), can we now say it was the worst decade of music ever ?

Seriously, what stands out in this past decade of music ?
Does any artist(s) stand out, to the degree that certain artists did in previous decades ?
Who defined the decade ?

Seems to me like the quality of music has gradually declined since the 70's, which were arguably the best or one of the best decades of music ever.

I think its easy to say that this is the worst decade for R & B and Rap music. I've bought only 1 record since 2004.

[Busch1724]

This decade did have mash ups. Mixing of a two or more songs to make a new one. Not bad if done right.

If you see that as creating something new...some people do, some people don't.

[China]

I find it a lot on Pandora, and I keep my ear open when I'm around younger people. There's a whole crew of them that are with the company that hosts the station, and they all dig the show, so I am always asking them for recommendations and whatnot. So, say one of them tells me they like Band X.. I plug that into my Pandora and see what it gives me.

The link is http://radio.thebaynet.com/
Not everything I play is new. I play lots of stuff going back to the 50s. I try to touch all the eras most weeks.

Wednesday at 7 !

~Bang

Thanks. I recall that from listening before, and that's one of the things I like, a mixture of music from various eras. That's why my ipod is filled with music from the '50s to the present.

[Botched]

The 80s wins this award hands down. There are a few bright spots from that decade, but mostly it was a mountain of crap.

[Lombardi's_kid_brother]

I think the 30s were pretty barren.

The 1920s had this great mix of jazz and vaudeville and orchestration combined with new technology. By the 30s, it seemed to be this bland mush of strings and over-produced backup singers. There was an interesting folk music movement, but I don't think it really achieved greatness until the 40s.

WWII had great music. It's telling that every Christmas Song that you love probably has its roots in WWII.

The 50s brought the concept album and Sinatra and early rockabilly and doo-wop. The 60s were revolutionary. The 70s had 1977. The 80s had 1985. Those decades had great moments and movements and just an explosion of voices.

[Madison Redskin]

The 80s wins this award hands down. There are a few bright spots from that decade, but mostly it was a mountain of crap.

I agree and disagree; the 80s produced a lot of great crappy music.

[Busch1724]

I agree and disagree; the 80s produced a lot of great crappy music.

Not as much crappy as maybe cheesy.

The thing about the last ten years was that there was good music made, you just have to dig around for it because starting in 1995 radio changed for the worse...but that's a completely other rant.

[boofMcboof]

If you begin your sentence with "(insert decade here) sucked and was the worst," you probably are approaching music in a rangebound manner. I wonder what it's like to go through life with such a narrow scope. Nah, scratch that I don't want to know.

[Predicto]

I giggle at the idea that the 1970s was the decade of great music. Those were my formative teen years, and I promise you, the radio sucked 100 times worse than it sucks now. The 70s has a few bright lights - the last waning of the 60s protest songs at the beginning of the decade, the rise of punk at the very end of the decade, disco (some of which was good), some funk, a couple of classic rockers at their height like Led Zep and Queen.

But mostly - these were the songs that you heard in the 1970s:

"You Light Up My Life"
"Escape" (the Pina Colada Song)
"Having My Baby"
"The Night the Lights Went Out in Georgia"
"Feelings" (whoh whoh whoh)
"Seasons in the Sun"
"Torn Between Two Lovers"
"Wildfire" ('She kept calling Wild... fire)
"December 1963" (Oh What A Night)
"Let your Love Flow" (like a mountain stream)
"Billy Don't be a Hero"
"Sometimes When We Touch" (the honesty's too much...)
"Rhinestone Cowboy"
"You Don't Have To Be A Star Baby"
"I'd Really Love to See you Tonight"
"Reunited" (and it feels so good...)
"Precious and Few" (are the moments we two can share...)
"The Night Chicago Died"
"All by Myself"
"Year of the Cat"
"Longer" (than there've been fishes in the ocean)
"Disco Duck"
"Please Come to Boston"
"Afternoon Delight" (sky rockets in flight...)


Anything by the Eagles
Anything by Tony Orlando and Dawn
Anything by Helen Reddy
Anything by Foreigner
Anything by Barry Manilow
Anything by Diana Ross (after she left the Supremes)
Anything by America
Anything by Styx
Anything by James Taylor
Anything by Frankie Valli
Anything by Andy Gibb
Anything by Billy Joel
Almost anything by Elton John
Anything by Little River Band
Anything by John Denver
Anything by Captain and Tennille
Anything by Bread
Anything by Olivia Newton John
Anything by the Osmond
Anything by Bob freaking Seger


Absolutly NO decade can match the 70s for craptastic music. I dare you to come up with a list like that for any other decade.

[Forehead]

"Seasons in the Sun"
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"I'd Really Love to See you Tonight"


I like these two songs. What do you have against England Dan and John Ford Coley? Man, if you had put Summer Breeze on that list, I would have had harsh words for you.

[China]

I giggle at the idea that the 1970s was the decade of great music. Those were my formative teen years, and I promise you, the radio sucked 100 times worse than it sucks now. The 70s has a few bright lights - the last waning of the 60s protest songs at the beginning of the decade, the rise of punk at the very end of the decade, disco (some of which was good), some funk, a couple of classic rockers at their height like Led Zep and Queen.

But mostly - these were the songs that you heard in the 1970s:

"You Light Up My Life"
"Escape" (the Pina Colada Song)
"Having My Baby"
"The Night the Lights Went Out in Georgia"
"Feelings" (whoh whoh whoh)
"Seasons in the Sun"
"Torn Between Two Lovers"
"Wildfire" ('She kept calling Wild... fire)
"December 1963" (Oh What A Night)
"Let your Love Flow" (like a mountain stream)
"Billy Don't be a Hero"
"Sometimes When We Touch" (the honesty's too much...)
"Rhinestone Cowboy"
"You Don't Have To Be A Star Baby"
"I'd Really Love to See you Tonight"
"Reunited" (and it feels so good...)
"Precious and Few" (are the moments we two can share...)
"The Night Chicago Died"
"All by Myself"
"Year of the Cat"
"Longer" (than there've been fishes in the ocean)
"Disco Duck"
"Please Come to Boston"
"Afternoon Delight" (sky rockets in flight...)


Anything by the Eagles
Anything by Tony Orlando and Dawn
Anything by Helen Reddy
Anything by Foreigner
Anything by Barry Manilow
Anything by Diana Ross (after she left the Supremes)
Anything by America
Anything by Styx
Anything by James Taylor
Anything by Frankie Valli
Anything by Andy Gibb
Anything by Billy Joel
Almost anything by Elton John
Anything by Little River Band
Anything by John Denver
Anything by Captain and Tennille
Anything by Bread
Anything by Olivia Newton John
Anything by the Osmond
Anything by Bob freaking Seger


Absolutly NO decade can match the 70s for craptastic music. I dare you to come up with a list like that for any other decade.

As another child of the 70's I agree that's quite a compilation, although I might dispute some of your "Anything" artists. While there was a lot of suckitude with those artists, there were some good songs mixed in as well.

[mcsluggo]

question: Has there EVER been a decade when there wasn't a huge swath of the population convinced that they had just seen the nadir of civilization in whatever area they just chose to focus their gaze?

[Sticksboi05]

Dude, the 80s was one of the better decades of music. These guys have it all wrong.

As for the question at hand? I wouldn't say its the worst. Not even close. To me, the 90s was probably the worst. Boy bands. Ugh. So ghey.

New Kids on the Block.

[boofMcboof]

I giggle at the idea that the 1970s was the decade of great music. Those were my formative teen years, and I promise you, the radio sucked 100 times worse than it sucks now. The 70s has a few bright lights - the last waning of the 60s protest songs at the beginning of the decade, the rise of punk at the very end of the decade, disco (some of which was good), some funk, a couple of classic rockers at their height like Led Zep and Queen.




Good lord. Still going on with this decade-is-crap crap. Hmmm. Let's see:

Bob Marley
Alton Ellis
Ken Boothe
Jackie Mittoo
Jimmy Cliff
Peter Tosh
Albert King
Bo Diddley
JJ Cale
Shuggie Otis
Doors
Pink Floyd
Rush
Robin Trower
Sly & the Family Stone
Johnny Cash
Carol King
Gary Bartz
Roy Ayers
Edwin Birdsong
Minnie Riperton
Donald Bird
Buddy Miles
Stevie Wonder
Bill Withers
Gene Harris
Bobbi Humphrey
Curtis Mayfield
Parliment
Eddie Hazel
Funkadelic
Evelyn Champagne King
Miles Davis
Grant Green
Idris Muhammed
James Brown
Jackson 5
Stan Getz
Joao Gilberto
Astrud Gilberto
Horace Silver
Al Green
Ann Peebles
Delfonics
Dusty Springfield
Marlena Shaw
Marvin Gaye
Young-Holt Unlimited
The Gap Band
MFSB
O' Jays
Harold Melvin & the Blue Notes

. . . to name a few. Plenty of musicianship to go around.

[Bang]

You could make lists for any era.
I think the main point is that now you have to do some homework to find the good music.

~Bang

[Sticksboi05]

Anyone else find it find a little funny that sticksboi, a 20 year old, tries to define himself as THE definitive answer to pretty much everything. Hell, I saw a thread where he posted that Olivia Wilde is just a skinny ugly stick pretty much unworthy of much attention. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, but I'm sorry, but if you just go ahead and outright condemn Olivia Wilde like that, then you just might have the ghey, not that there is anything wrong with that.

I must be doing something right if my arguments are so apparently convincing that you think I'm posting them as fact which I never implied whatsoever. I am giving my opinion in the same way that everyone else is. Predicto just said the 70's were relatively mediocre. You gonna jump on him for it? That's no different than my OPINION that 90's hip hop topped 2000's hip hop.

"Don't think it's that close to me." To me = in my opinion. If Enter wants to throw up some albums I should listen to, I'd be more than willing to as I always love to hear new music and guarantee I haven't listened to near the amount of stuff other people here have like LKB.

Everything having to do with music is opinion which is why these threads create so much controversy. We are biased to when we grew up etc.

I stated the exact same opinion as just about everyone here which is, there's plenty of great music, you just have to find it.

As for Olivia Wilde, I'd really love for you to find a quote where I said she was "ugly." I believe it was in response to the Maxim end of year list that ranked her #1 and I said I thought that was a bit silly. And she is a toothpick, but I never said she wasn't attractive at all. If I did, quote me on it and I'll eat my crow.

Ironically, in an earlier Olivia Wilde vs. Olivia Munn poll, I voted Wilde..guess I don't think that poorly of her do I?

---------- Post added February-4th-2011 at 02:07 PM ----------


Good lord. Still going on with this decade-is-crap crap. Hmmm. Let's see:

.

I think Marlena Shaw is pretty underrated. She's got some great song like her cover of California Soul. And the O'Jays are great also.

[Predicto]

Good lord. Still going on with this decade-is-crap crap. Hmmm. Let's see:

Bob Marley
Alton Ellis
Ken Boothe
Jackie Mittoo
Jimmy Cliff
Peter Tosh
Albert King
Bo Diddley
JJ Cale
Shuggie Otis
Doors
Pink Floyd
Rush
Robin Trower
Sly & the Family Stone
Johnny Cash
Carol King
Gary Bartz
Roy Ayers
Edwin Birdsong
Minnie Riperton
Donald Bird
Buddy Miles
Stevie Wonder
Bill Withers
Gene Harris
Bobbi Humphrey
Curtis Mayfield
Parliment
Eddie Hazel
Funkadelic
Evelyn Champagne King
Miles Davis
Grant Green
Idris Muhammed
James Brown
Jackson 5
Stan Getz
Joao Gilberto
Astrud Gilberto
Horace Silver
Al Green
Ann Peebles
Delfonics
Dusty Springfield
Marlena Shaw
Marvin Gaye
Young-Holt Unlimited
The Gap Band
MFSB
O' Jays
Harold Melvin & the Blue Notes

. . . to name a few. Plenty of musicianship to go around.

You are correct that I forgot to mention reggae, but most of those you just mentioned were the funk or disco artists that I said were the high points of the decade. There was some great music in that decade - in every decade.

My point is, I promise you, if you went back in time and turned on the radio back in the 70s, you would not hear Bob Marley or Parliament.

You would hear Gilbert O'Sullivan singing "Alone Again, Naturally."

Then you would hear the Fifth Dimension's "Up Up and Away (in my Beautiful Balloon)."

Then you would hear BJ Thomas and "Raindrops Keep Falling on My Head."

Then you would hear Sammy Johns doing "Chevy Van."

Then you would throw up. No other decade would have inflicted such horrors on you on a regular basis.

[Sticksboi05]

With the 70's, I think a lot of people's impression is that like every decade, there was a lot of junk but the elites created such a gap between the junk and themselves. Maybe some people thought that the top bands of the 2000's, which aren't like the 70's where you had a relatively small group didn't separate themselves as much. Just a hypothesis.

[Predicto]

Everything having to do with music is opinion which is why these threads create so much controversy. We are biased to when we grew up etc.



For what it is worth, I am biased AGAINST when I grew up, because it was awful, at least for us white kids stuck in the suburbs. We couldn't find James Brown - we didn't know he existed. We had to make do with Toto.

Lady Gaga is a zillion times better than that crapola.

[Sticksboi05]

In Hong Kong, I am Michael Jackson, you are Toto!
You mean Tito!....Toto's what we are last night for dinner.

Lol, Chris Tucker.

[Predicto]

With the 70's, I think a lot of people's impression is that like every decade, there was a lot of junk but the elites created such a gap between the junk and themselves. Maybe some people thought that the top bands of the 2000's, which aren't like the 70's where you had a relatively small group didn't separate themselves as much. Just a hypothesis.

I'll buy that. The last decade didn't really have a Stevie Wonder.

Still, listeners in the last decade would never have put up with the utter garbage that the 70s inflicted on us 90 percent of the time, and I think that has to be viewed as a major, major improvement overall.

[Sticksboi05]

I'll buy that. The last decade didn't really have a Stevie Wonder.

Still, listeners in the last decade would never have put up with the utter garbage that the 70s inflicted on us 90 percent of the time, and I think that has to be viewed as a major, major improvement overall.

And I'll buy that since I didn't experience the 70's. :cheers:

But at least Steve Luthaker gave us that great riff on Beat It.

[China]

Still, listeners in the last decade would never have put up with the utter garbage that the 70s inflicted on us 90 percent of the time, and I think that has to be viewed as a major, major improvement overall.

Well that's because they had options. In the '70s we had to listen to whatever they put on the radio, good or bad. Now, if you don't like the crap that is on the radio you can find stuff on your own (Pandora, etc.).

[Tulane Skins Fan]

1420's. Worst ever.

[Predicto]

Well that's because they had options. In the '70s we had to listen to whatever they put on the radio, good or bad. Now, if you don't like the crap that is on the radio you can find stuff on your own (Pandora, etc.).

That is true, but no one even makes the kind of pap that ruled the 70s anymore. Just like no one wears pumpkin colored corduroy bellbottom pantsuits anymore. We learned better. Good music now is disjointed and flawed and hard to find, but at least none of it is by bands like Air Supply anymore. :ols:

[Enter Apotheosis]

I was having this discussion with my brother-in-law: how do kids nowadays find new music? His kids (high school and college age) don't listen to the radio. Is it all word of mouth?

How you find music is really just a function of how much you care about it and are willing to invest time in to pursuing it. Word of mouth is probably the most common way that people find new music, particularly among those who enjoy music but aren't willing to invest time going to smaller venues to see relatively unknown groups live or do a little second-hand research.

As Bang said, merely keeping your ears open is always a good idea and Pandora can be a great resource for stumbling in to new music. I've always had a lot of success just pulling up some information on the artists I like. Just taking a gander at their previous work, side projects, related acts, who they've toured with, who they've collaborated with, and their influences can turn up a ton of new material to listen to.


question: Has there EVER been a decade when there wasn't a huge swath of the population convinced that they had just seen the nadir of civilization in whatever area they just chose to focus their gaze?

No.

[ACW]

Justin Bieber
American Idol
A Jersey Shore douchebag "rapping"

OTOH
-Metallica's back
-Linkin Park (yes I enjoy them)

[China]

That is true, but no one even makes the kind of pap that ruled the 70s anymore. Just like no one wears punkin colored corduroy bellbottom pantsuits anymore. We learned better. Good music now is disjointed and flawed and hard to find, but at least none of it is by bands like Air Supply anymore. :ols:

Damn you! Would you stop dredging up old long-forgotten memories. :mad:

Here, so everyone can enjoy it:

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[Lombardi's_kid_brother]

I love the fact that I'm the only one who ever really takes these threads seriously.

Why aren't all the "best decade" questions worded "Rank the 60s, 70s, 80s, and 90s" since that's all that ever happens in them anyway.

[boofMcboof]

You are correct that I forgot to mention reggae, but most of those you just mentioned were the funk or disco artists that I said were the high points of the decade. There was some great music in that decade - in every decade.

My point is, I promise you, if you went back in time and turned on the radio back in the 70s, you would not hear Bob Marley or Parliament.

You would hear Gilbert O'Sullivan singing "Alone Again, Naturally."

Then you would hear the Fifth Dimension's "Up Up and Away (in my Beautiful Balloon)."

Then you would hear BJ Thomas and "Raindrops Keep Falling on My Head."

Then you would hear Sammy Johns doing "Chevy Van."

Then you would throw up. No other decade would have inflicted such horrors on you on a regular basis.



I get that you're using radio play as a qualifier. I would probably add that radio stations varied greatly from city to city, area to area. I was born in Detroit and exposed to wide range of music growing up while also studying music from 3rd grade through college so I just shriek at the sight of someone making broad based critiques of a time period. :2cents:

[Predicto]

I get that you're using radio play as a qualifier. I would probably add that radio stations varied greatly from city to city, area to area. I was born in Detroit and exposed to wide range of music growing up while also studying music from 3rd grade through college so I just shriek at the sight of someone making broad based critiques of a time period. :2cents:

If you grew up in Detroit then you may have been infected with the Bob Seger virus, and I simply can't run the risk of taking with you anymore. Sorry.

[boofMcboof]

If you grew up in Detroit then you may have been infected with the Bob Seger virus, and I simply can't run the risk of taking with you anymore. Sorry.

Bah! I'm on record in that thread not caring for Seger. :)

[elkabong82]

Because of the mass amount of exposure that the internet and music file sharing brought this past decade, there are a lot more one hit wonders that get exposure and a lot more crappy, mainstream filler music that gets through, which clouds the good music that came about.

But the 80's easily hold the title for worst decade of music. Synth keyboard. Need I say more?

[Predicto]

Bah! I'm on record in that thread not caring for Seger. :)

I'm really sorry, I just can't take that risk. The potential consequences are too horrifying to contemplate.

[stevemcqueen1]

Now that the decade is officially over (not sure if it technically ended in Jan 2011, or Jan 2010, but in either case it's over), can we now say it was the worst decade of music ever ?

Seriously, what stands out in this past decade of music ?
Does any artist(s) stand out, to the degree that certain artists did in previous decades ?
Who defined the decade ?

Seems to me like the quality of music has gradually declined since the 70's, which were arguably the best or one of the best decades of music ever.

No. This was an incredible decade for music. The record industry fragment which has been an overwhelmingly positive thing for music. Top 40 and billboards has never been less influential since it's advent. You see musicians like modest mouse becoming household names, playing movie soundtracks, on tv shows, in commercials, etc. The internet has been a wonderful thing because now small artists can gain a national audience.

There have been too many seminal albums this decade to even name. Especially for rock music. Some that come to mind:

Arcade Fire - Funeral
Modest Mouse - The Moon and Antarctica
Death Cab - Transatlanticism
The Postal Service
Trail of Dead - Source Tags & Codes
Cursive - The Ugly Organ
Deerhunter - Microcastle
Fleet Foxes
Clap Your Hands Say Yeah
Bright Eyes - Lifted or the story is in the soil, keep your ear to the ground
The Black Keys - Rubber Factory & Magic Potion
The Strokes - Is This It
Yeah Yeah Yeahs - Fever To Tell
Arctic Monkeys - the debut album
Interpol - Turn on the Bright Lights
Sufjan Stevens - Illinois
White Stripes - White Blood Cells & Elephant
Sigur Ros - Aegetis Byrjun
Wilco - Yankee Foxtrot Hotel
LCD Soundsystem - every one of his albums
At The Drive In - Relationships of Command
QOTSA - Songs for the Deaf
Broken Social Scene- You forgot it in people
Bloc Party - Silent Alarm
Vampire Weekend
Iron & Wine - Our Endless Numbered Days
Green Day - American Idiot
The Go! Team - Thunder Lighting Strike

Plus multiple seminal Radiohead albums and multiple masterpieces from Joanna Newsom and the Hold Steady.

That's just indie rock and only what I can think of from the top of my head. Most of those I got just from looking at my top played on itunes. There has also been tons of great hip hop, country, blue grass, electronic, etc.

I actually think this was one of the finest decades of music ever. There was a lot of good stuff in the sixties and to a lesser extent the seventies. But there was also a lot of ****. I never saw a use in idealizing those decades in music. Doing so would tend to cause you to miss out on all of the masterpieces from this decade. I'd honestly put up Moon & Antarctica, Illinois, and Funeral against any challengers from any decade and they would fare well.

[Predicto]

Because of the mass amount of exposure that the internet and music file sharing brought this past decade, there are a lot more one hit wonders that get exposure and a lot more crappy, mainstream filler music that gets through, which clouds the good music that came about.

But the 80's easily hold the title for worst decade of music. Synth keyboard. Need I say more?

Yes. You do need to say more. Because no synth keyboard song could ever top this:

6cdFuMgMkBM

[jnhay]

As far as pop music goes, I would have to say why not? The fact that Lady Gaga "Poker Face" is #1 on the charts for like 3000 weeks is pretty bad.

[G.A.C.O.L.B.]

. To me, the 90s was probably the worst. Boy bands. Ugh. So ghey.

How old are you? If you don't mind me asking.

I'm just curious because that's the craziest thing I've ever read on here. I'm trying to figure out the cause.

[Sticksboi05]

I actually think this was one of the finest decades of music ever. There was a lot of good stuff in the sixties and to a lesser extent the seventies. But there was also a lot of ****. I never saw a use in idealizing those decades in music. Doing so would tend to cause you to miss out on all of the masterpieces from this decade. I'd honestly put up Moon & Antarctica, Illinois, and Funeral against any challengers from any decade and they would fare well.

Agree. But there was more than enough **** to go around this decade also.

[Hubbs]

hell no it's not.
Music has exploded, Bands everywhere have access to inexpensive GOOD recording software.
There's a LOT of good stuff out there. It's just a little harder to find. Radio is completly sold out, "record stores" are gone.
But it's out there. You just need to look. I do a 'net radio show on Wednesdays and I play a LOT of new music.

~Bang

See, that's the problem I have. I really struggle to find anything I like nowadays. How do you find new music you want to use for your show?

[Bang]

See, that's the problem I have. I really struggle to find anything I like nowadays. How do you find new music you want to use for your show?

I use Pandora a lot, I search on podsafe network on mevio.com for stuff... but that does require hours of sifting thru junk.
I listen to some podcasts,, one of my favorites is www.radiofreebakersfield.com mostly because i know the guy, he's a lot of fun, But because I know this guy (WhoreHay, as he calls himself on the show). I know that he is ALWAYS on the edge looking for new stuff. He's plugged into some pretty cool scenes in southern California, and I like a lot of what he plays.

Pandora is good. I have about 50 or 60 stations seeding my "quickmix', so I get a good variety of stuff. I run a recorder all day while I'm working, and when it plays one i Like, I cut it out and save it.
I record the show on the weekend, and since folks seem to be interested in finding new music, maybe I can help on Wednesdays. I stopped bumping my thread about the show because I didn't really want to spam the board. But, i'll try to remember to bump it if folks want to listen.

~Bang

[Predicto]

As far as pop music goes, I would have to say why not? The fact that Lady Gaga "Poker Face" is #1 on the charts for like 3000 weeks is pretty bad.

Except Poker Face isn't a truly awful song. It's pretty catchy. In comparison, "You Light Up My Life" was No. 1 on the charts for half of 1977 - and it is turrible. Turrible!

[Koolblue13]

Personally, I have no idea what is on the radio and don't even know the channels around here and I've lived here for the better part of 37 years. I had my truck for 5 years, before I learned that the radio will tell me who the band is and whats playing.

That said, I have heard more great music for the first time now, than any other decade outside of the punk rock invasion. The 80's will always be my favorite because of the punk, hardcore, metal and rap all showed up strong, but this decade is starting off pretty great to me. Bands like the devil makes three, deer tick, lucero I just can't get enough of. I'm lucky to work at a small rock and roll club, where people take good music very seriously. We are working on a website for new music as well, that I'll be sure to share.

[elkabong82]

Yes. You do need to say more. Because no synth keyboard song could ever top this:



I see your Billy Don't Be a Hero and raise you:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nsdj9NRzqC4

We Built this city on rock n' roll. The quinessential 80's song and penultimate destruction of Jefferson Airplane, proving the 80's destroyed good music. Even a good band like Jefferson Airplane got sucked into the black hole that was 80's music.

---------- Post added February-4th-2011 at 04:23 PM ----------


How old are you? If you don't mind me asking.

I'm just curious because that's the craziest thing I've ever read on here. I'm trying to figure out the cause.

agreed. 90's saw the explosion of alternative music onto the music scene, a esurgence of rock music that was desparately needed after the 80's almost obliterated rock music. A couple boy bands doesn't change that. New Kids on the Block were 80's and awful. Backstreet, NSYNC. etc. didn't really start up until the very end of the 90's, they weren't around throughout the decade.

---------- Post added February-4th-2011 at 04:24 PM ----------


See, that's the problem I have. I really struggle to find anything I like nowadays. How do you find new music you want to use for your show?

Listen to the Black Keys.

[Sticksboi05]

Except Poker Face isn't a truly awful song. It's pretty catchy. In comparison, "You Light Up My Life" was No. 1 on the charts for half of 1977 - and it is turrible. Turrible!

I think Poker Face is god awful. It is beyond horrible. I'd rather listen to the Macarena.

Bad Romance is catchy though.

[Metalhead]

I guess it depends on the genres of music you listen to....nearly all forms of heavy metal have been outstanding this decade. Many bands that emerged in the mid-to-late 90's have also begun to fine-tune their craft (Tool, Meshuggah, Devin Townsend, Katatonia, Neurosis, Nile, Justin Broadrick).

And what is overlooked is the internets' impact on the evolution of music, the creation of new sub-genres never thought possible, and the explosion of creativity. The "shoegaze" genre has been absolutely stunning...imo, Jesu may be the best new band of the decade. I haven't heard a band yet as mesmerizing, breath-taking, and refreshing.

Edit* - Well I guess misread Mick's post. Not enough time has passed this decade for any judgement. I do know that underground metal is alive and well, with even more vigor than before. And we still have some critical albums coming up for the industrial and black metal genres in the next couple months :evilg:

[Koolblue13]

Except Poker Face isn't a truly awful song. It's pretty catchy. In comparison, "You Light Up My Life" was No. 1 on the charts for half of 1977 - and it is turrible. Turrible!

Poker Face is god awful. Heck, there are dozens of "catchy" TV commercials, doesn't make it good music.

[G.A.C.O.L.B.]

agreed. 90's saw the explosion of alternative music onto the music scene, a esurgence of rock music that was desparately needed after the 80's almost obliterated rock music. A couple boy bands doesn't change that. New Kids on the Block were 80's and awful. Backstreet, NSYNC. etc. didn't really start up until the very end of the 90's, they weren't around throughout the decade.


Not to mention the awesomeness of hip hop in the 90's.

[stevemcqueen1]

See, that's the problem I have. I really struggle to find anything I like nowadays. How do you find new music you want to use for your show?

last.fm is a god send. Word of mouth is mostly how I find out about new albums or bands. I have a lot of friends who are indie music encyclopedias and they tell me what they like and I try it.

I also use reviews from the big web magazines like pitchfork. You don't have to read the pretentious reviews, just look at the scores. If it's a genre you like and the album scores a 7 or 8, then chances are that you'll probably enjoy the album. Then go look up some of the songs on youtube and see how you like it.

[Sticksboi05]

Poker Face is god awful. Heck, there are dozens of "catchy" TV commercials, doesn't make it good music.

Great minds think alike.

[stevemcqueen1]

Not to mention the awesomeness of hip hop in the 90's.

Yeah hip hop circa about 1997 was in its golden age. It degenerated into utter **** towards the end of the decade but you're not going to outdo the height of the Wu Tang era. There were a lot of great hip hop releases this decade though. Outkast, Jay Z, Kanye, Lil Wayne, MIA, Ghostface, Raekwon, Dre, Talib Kwali, Lupe Fiasco, The Roots, Cam'ron, among others have all put out albums that do the genre proud.

You had some good alternative bands that were great from the 90s like Built to Spill, Dinosaur Jr., The Pixies, Sonic Youth, etc. Those pale against the amount of great indie rock acts you see today. The 2000's wins on just the numbers. There was good music from that period. Just not nearly as much as you saw from this decade when the internet became a powerful tool for tiny labels to compete with gigantic ones in exposure.

[Sticksboi05]

I'd estimate hip-hop golden era to be 1984-1994.

Though it does leave out Black Star whose first album is brilliant.

[Dance04]

Anyone else find it find a little funny that sticksboi, a 20 year old, tries to define himself as THE definitive answer to pretty much everything. Hell, I saw a thread where he posted that Olivia Wilde is just a skinny ugly stick pretty much unworthy of much attention. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, but I'm sorry, but if you just go ahead and outright condemn Olivia Wilde like that, then you just might have the ghey, not that there is anything wrong with that.

you didnt know? Sticks is the lord of all conversation. He knows everything about all sports, fashion, politics, geography, movies, tv shows, etc. Like you said, it's funyn cuz he talks about things that he would be too young to know about, as if he was a professor.

[Predicto]

I think Poker Face is god awful. It is beyond horrible. I'd rather listen to the Macarena.

Bad Romance is catchy though.


Poker Face is god awful. Heck, there are dozens of "catchy" TV commercials, doesn't make it good music.


But what are you comparing it to? It's pop music.

Go back to post #66. Google video ANY of those songs. Every single one of them is orders of magnitude worse than Poker Face (or the Macarena, or Tubthumping, or whatever). Pop music is rarely good, but in the 1970s, it was really much worse.

[lavar1156]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qST5eVLudrQ

[Koolblue13]

But what are you comparing it to? It's pop music.

Go back to post #66. Google video ANY of those songs. Every single one of them is orders of magnitude worse than Poker Face (or the Macarena, or Tubthumping, or whatever). Pop music is rarely good, but in the 1970s, it was really much worse.

I feel it was all equally bad, personally. I think the 90's might have been the worst for music, but what was on the radio was probably the best ever, although still not very good.

[Dance04]

For me, it's the best ever. It's all about electronic music. Most of you older people probably hate it, and that's fine. But the explosion of electronic music and how popular it is would be unfair to this decade

I'm someone that cares more about the beat then lyrics, thats probably why I gravitated towards Electronic.

And no, I'm not talking about "Fist pumping club music" There is all kinds of different electronica out there.

[Predicto]

Even Cartman's version of Poker Face was better than this:

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[Bang]

Listen to the Black Keys.

See, I don't much like the Black Keys for some reason. i have not got a lot of love for a lot of the minimalist stuff. don't like the White Stripes.. I do like Soledad Brothers and a few others, but mostly that stuff just tends to drone to me.

Likewise Vampire Weekend.. a lot of folks talk about them, and I've seen them mentioned in this thread,, but to me after about two minutes it sounds like Fisher Price produced it.

I'll see if I can find some vids to post up later when I've got some time. I have posted a bunch in the Friday music thread the last couple weeks. there's some good new stuff in there.

~Bang

[Koolblue13]

Even Cartman's version of Poker Face was better than this:


Touche Predicto, touche. The ol' Captain and Tennille trump card move. Well played sir.

[elkabong82]

For me, it's the best ever. It's all about electronic music. Most of you older people probably hate it, and that's fine. But the explosion of electronic music and how popular it is would be unfair to this decade

I'm someone that cares more about the beat then lyrics, thats probably why I gravitated towards Electronic.

And no, I'm not talking about "Fist pumping club music" There is all kinds of different electronica out there.

I don't know if Daft Punk qualifies, but I thought they did a great job on the Tron soundtrack.

Ratatat's "Shempi" qualifies, and I think it's a good song: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kLUthOxfpMo

[Predicto]

Touche Predicto, touche. The ol' Captain and Tennille trump card move. Well played sir.

Well, the Tony Orlando and Dawn card was stuck to the bottom of my shoe, so I couldn't use that one. :silly:

[Bang]

For me, it's the best ever. It's all about electronic music. Most of you older people probably hate it, and that's fine. But the explosion of electronic music and how popular it is would be unfair to this decade

I'm someone that cares more about the beat then lyrics, thats probably why I gravitated towards Electronic.

And no, I'm not talking about "Fist pumping club music" There is all kinds of different electronica out there.

I'm hearing a resurgence of guitars.. way out in front as opposed to being rythym makers for most of the punk and post punk times.

I have no problem with electronic music.. it's just a new instrument. I'm sure a few hundred years ago some guy scoffed at that newfangled piano thing. When I was coming up synthesizers and such first started really being used in conjunction with computers.. bands like Depeche Mode etc.. Now it's much more refined, it's not nearly as "synthetic" sounding as it was then.

Here's Stevie Wonder with Tonto -
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wuaSzFf7yq0

This was the early synthesizer.. they'd be moving those wires and cables all around during the song.. it was a trip. I remember the first time we all saw that thing being played,, we didn't know what to think. It looked like a science project.

~Bang

[elkabong82]

See, I don't much like the Black Keys for some reason. i have not got a lot of love for a lot of the minimalist stuff. don't like the White Stripes.. I do like Soledad Brothers and a few others, but mostly that stuff just tends to drone to me.

Likewise Vampire Weekend.. a lot of folks talk about them, and I've seen them mentioned in this thread,, but to me after about two minutes it sounds like Fisher Price produced it.

I'll see if I can find some vids to post up later when I've got some time. I have posted a bunch in the Friday music thread the last couple weeks. there's some good new stuff in there.

~Bang

I love Black Keys, but it's no sweat, we're all entitled to our tastes.

Vampire Weekend has 2 songs I like, IIRC. The popular one A-punk and M79. They have a lot of bad songs too.

[Koolblue13]

Well, the Tony Orlando and Dawn card was stuck to the bottom of my shoe, so I couldn't use that one. :silly:

:ols:

Side note, one of my newer favorites is from San Fran. The Devil Makes Three. Great band.

[elkabong82]

I'm hearing a resurgence of guitars.. way out in front as opposed to being rythym makers for most of the punk and post punk times.

I have no problem with electronic music.. it's just a new instrument. I'm sure a few hundred years ago some guy scoffed at that newfangled piano thing. When I was coming up synthesizers and such first started really being used in conjunction with computers.. bands like Depeche Mode etc.. Now it's much more refined, it's not nearly as "synthetic" sounding as it was then.

Here's Stevie Wonder with Tonto
This was the early synthesizer.. they'd be moving those wires and cables all around during the song.. it was a trip. I remember the first time we all saw that thing being played,, we didn't know what to think. It looked like a science project.

~Bang

hahaha, Tonto! White tornado. You reminded me of this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BWiqnPIxIdM

[heyholetsgogrant]

I think the decade was more of a transitional period away from traditional means of finding and listening to music. As other have stated, last fm, pandora, Itunes, ipods, social media, pitchfork, Myspace, and the internet in general has changed music. I highly doubt 10 years ago Arcade Fire would have become a big band. BTW they are one of the best bands ive heard in the last 10 years to come out.

[Dance04]

I'm hearing a resurgence of guitars.. way out in front as opposed to being rythym makers for most of the punk and post punk times.

I have no problem with electronic music.. it's just a new instrument. I'm sure a few hundred years ago some guy scoffed at that newfangled piano thing. When I was coming up synthesizers and such first started really being used in conjunction with computers.. bands like Depeche Mode etc.. Now it's much more refined, it's not nearly as "synthetic" sounding as it was then.

Here's Stevie Wonder with Tonto -
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wuaSzFf7yq0

This was the early synthesizer.. they'd be moving those wires and cables all around during the song.. it was a trip. I remember the first time we all saw that thing being played,, we didn't know what to think. It looked like a science project.

~Bang


ha, thanks bang, that was cool.

Another reason why I think this decade is a great decade for music is because of the mixture of different genres. For example, you got dubstep (electronic) and rap that mix which gives u rapstep.

The decade wil be remembered by its pop music... the stuff the casual music listener listens to. But anyone who loves music will have very different memories of that decade. I won't think of the 2000's as britney, gaga, lil wayne, black eyed peas, or whatever popular band.

I think Mark Knight, Nathan Fake, Danny Tenaglia, deadmau5, Robbie Rivera, Skism, Skream etc...

[Bang]

I agree with you guys,, I am loving new music right now.

About every twenty years or so a new generation comes up and either changes, stops, or builds on what the last generation was doing. The 60s saw a big surge of creativity, likewise the 80s, and now the 00s.
Heyholetsgogrant makes a good point, this is a transition time as well, as bands especially try to figure out the best way to market their music.
Bands nowadays can't rely on album sales,, no one buys albums. Everyone buys individual tracks on ITunes, etc. So bands now more than ever have to string together hit after hit after hit to stay relevent, or they have to tour almost constantly to get the word out... or they have to sell their music to commercials, movies, tv shows, etc. .. something that 20 or 30 years ago would have immediately labelled a band as a sellout and they'd cease to matter to anyone but the pop fans.


And I keep trying on the Black Keys, elkabong! I just can't ever seem to get it.
I'm really digging on Supergrass right now. But that'll change by next week, I'm sure.

~Bang

[stevemcqueen1]

See, I don't much like the Black Keys for some reason. i have not got a lot of love for a lot of the minimalist stuff. don't like the White Stripes.. I do like Soledad Brothers and a few others, but mostly that stuff just tends to drone to me.

Likewise Vampire Weekend.. a lot of folks talk about them, and I've seen them mentioned in this thread,, but to me after about two minutes it sounds like Fisher Price produced it.

I'll see if I can find some vids to post up later when I've got some time. I have posted a bunch in the Friday music thread the last couple weeks. there's some good new stuff in there.

~Bang

Vampire Weekend is very slick. It's definitely not minimalist or low-fi. They've got a pretty wide instrumentation on each of their tracks on both albums and they understand composition. The production values are high too, especially on Contra. My favorite songs from that album are "Run," "Giving up the gun," and "Diplomat's Son." Try listening to those songs and see what you think. They are hardly vanilla. The final track "I think you're a contra" is excellent too.

Personally, I love Black Keys because I love blues rock. Their production values are much higher on the last two albums. But tend to prefer rubber factory and magic potion and their older style because I spent my late teens listening to Jimi Hendrix, Canned Heat, and Cream. The Buckeye state is actually putting out some really premier blues/psychedelic rock bands within the last few years aside from the Black Keys. Two other groups I've really enjoyed from that scene are Buffalo Killers and Mount Carmel. Those guys know how to jam.

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[zoony]

I love the fact that I'm the only one who ever really takes these threads seriously.

Why aren't all the "best decade" questions worded "Rank the 60s, 70s, 80s, and 90s" since that's all that ever happens in them anyway.

I never realized one could take this stuff seriously until you started posting.

[Bang]

No, i know Vampire Weekend isn't minimalist.. it's just another name i saw floating around the thread that I can't stand.
I've heard plenty of them. It sounds like children's music to me.

~Bang

[stevemcqueen1]

I think the 30s were pretty barren.

The 1920s had this great mix of jazz and vaudeville and orchestration combined with new technology. By the 30s, it seemed to be this bland mush of strings and over-produced backup singers. There was an interesting folk music movement, but I don't think it really achieved greatness until the 40s.

WWII had great music. It's telling that every Christmas Song that you love probably has its roots in WWII.

The 50s brought the concept album and Sinatra and early rockabilly and doo-wop. The 60s were revolutionary. The 70s had 1977. The 80s had 1985. Those decades had great moments and movements and just an explosion of voices.

I actually own and love quite a bit of music from the Depression era. The 30's was a golden age for country music and country blues. Jimmie Rodgers was the Elvis of his day and I've got several recordings by him that I still listen to. I like Roy Acuff too and he began his career around this time.

But my favorite from that time is the Delta Blues and it was a special time for that. Just about every single one of the great Delta bluesmen and women recorded in the 30's; Robert Johnson, Son House, Blind Lemon Jefferson, Charlie Patton, Lonnie Johnson (from Louisiana so he counts), Mississippi John Hurt, Willie Brown, Tommy Johnson, Louise Johnson, and Blind Willie Johnson.

You also had the important Piedmont Bluesman recording at this time like Reverend Gary Davis, Blind Boy Fuller, and Blind Willie McTell.

The 1930's was basically the greatest decade in the history of blues, never to be matched. I like some of the guys from the 50's like Lightnin' Hopkins and Elmore James but the blues just wasn't the same after that golden generation from the 30's died off.

[heyholetsgogrant]

I agree with you guys,, I am loving new music right now.

About every twenty years or so a new generation comes up and either changes, stops, or builds on what the last generation was doing. The 60s saw a big surge of creativity, likewise the 80s, and now the 00s.
Heyholetsgogrant makes a good point, this is a transition time as well, as bands especially try to figure out the best way to market their music.
Bands nowadays can't rely on album sales,, no one buys albums. Everyone buys individual tracks on ITunes, etc. So bands now more than ever have to string together hit after hit after hit to stay relevent, or they have to tour almost constantly to get the word out... or they have to sell their music to commercials, movies, tv shows, etc. .. something that 20 or 30 years ago would have immediately labelled a band as a sellout and they'd cease to matter to anyone but the pop fans.


And I keep trying on the Black Keys, elkabong! I just can't ever seem to get it.
I'm really digging on Supergrass right now. But that'll change by next week, I'm sure.

~Bang

Agreed, I dont hate as much when a band like Matt and Kim, Interpol, or Arcade fire are in a commercial, they have to put food on the table somehow. This decade made music so easy to get (steal or break up into singles) bands are not making a dime off sales anymore. I read that apple gets over $.60 per song, which is downright criminal.

http://forums.appleinsider.com/archive/index.php/t-27959.html

Heres an interesting article about indie bands and how hard it is to tour nowadays... BTW the band mentioned, "love like fire", I saw in DC are phenomenal

http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/25316068/ns/today-entertainment/

[stevemcqueen1]

Triumph by Wu Tang came on my ipod today. That came out in 97! Thirteen years ago and it's still better than most of the hip hop rap garbage that they put out now. Someone in the know, introduce me to the modern day Wu Tang!!

Most of the living original members have come out with new albums this decade. Most of them have been brilliant.

I don't listen to hip hop very often but I like some of it. My favorite hip hop album this past year was, by far, Sir Luscious Leftfoot by Big Boi. He's got a classic style that carries the same kind of intellectual feel to it as classic Wu Tang. I guess what I mean by that is I get the same feeling that Big Boi is a bit of a nerd like I do with genius and raekwon or ghostface.

But when you look at how incredible that ensemble of talent that Wu Tang was, we're probably never going to see anything like them again.

---------- Post added February-4th-2011 at 08:00 PM ----------


Just curious, do you like Kings of Leon? I think they are pretty solid.

I came late to the party with Kings of Leon. As such, I don't really like them...

I already recognize stuff that doesn't hold up nearly as well as it's novelty at the time would have suggested. Franz Ferdinand and the Killers for example. Both bands that I loved at the time and quickly soured on. Already I can't stand to listen to MGMT when two years ago I went through about a solid month of listening to them. In 2005 everyone I knew loved Bloc Party but now? I honestly can't see myself ever enjoying them again.

Then there are things like Arcade Fire and LCD Soundsystem that I think I'll enjoy for the rest of my life. A month or two ago, I listened to Funeral for the first time in several years because I had been convincing myself that the new album was better. No. Wow. It's just as impactful now as it was when it came out.

Honestly, if I had to pick just one album to list as the seminal album of the decade, it'd be Funeral.

[Bang]

Here's some nifty stuff from the 00s.

Drop your tabs. Watch this again in an hour.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=StV9lElcvAY

Cool stuff, and a nifty video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WZhinVDm9yM&feature=related


Some good solid hard rock.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lTCO8plknzs

I love the Arctic Monkeys, and this guy's lyrics are great

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2A2XBoxtcUA

This band is straight up 70s NYC Glam.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U6IctuA69Q4


See, I don't get it,, I like these guys, but not Black Keys

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AFxGBU2gJ9s&feature=related

[Chicken Fried]

I listen to country, so I can't speak for anything else. But this decade of country music started out good and then flopped hard. About 75% of the country songs coming out these days are almost unlistenable. There are only a few artists right now in country music I like: Rodney Atkins, Luke Bryan, and Easton Corbin. Kenny Chesney's newest song is horrible. They're all going into the pop genre. Miranda Lambert sucks, Reba's new songs suck, etc. I can go on and on about this but I doubt anyone will want to hear.

[Bubble Screen]

I like these two songs. What do you have against England Dan and John Ford Coley? Man, if you had put Summer Breeze on that list, I would have had harsh words for you.

I have both of those England Dan and John Ford Coley songs you mentioned. Good stuff.

[Koolblue13]

I listen to country, so I can't speak for anything else. But this decade of country music started out good and then flopped hard. About 75% of the country songs coming out these days are almost unlistenable. There are only a few artists right now in country music I like: Rodney Atkins, Luke Bryan, and Easton Corbin. Kenny Chesney's newest song is horrible. They're all going into the pop genre. Miranda Lambert sucks, Reba's new songs suck, etc. I can go on and on about this but I doubt anyone will want to hear.

Wayne the train Hancock is the best thing in country right now. Bob Wills style, texas swing.

[Cheers, Beers and Mountaineers]

I must be doing something right if my arguments are so apparently convincing that you think I'm posting them as fact which I never implied whatsoever. I am giving my opinion in the same way that everyone else is. Predicto just said the 70's were relatively mediocre. You gonna jump on him for it? That's no different than my OPINION that 90's hip hop topped 2000's hip hop.

"Don't think it's that close to me." To me = in my opinion. If Enter wants to throw up some albums I should listen to, I'd be more than willing to as I always love to hear new music and guarantee I haven't listened to near the amount of stuff other people here have like LKB.

Everything having to do with music is opinion which is why these threads create so much controversy. We are biased to when we grew up etc.

I stated the exact same opinion as just about everyone here which is, there's plenty of great music, you just have to find it.

As for Olivia Wilde, I'd really love for you to find a quote where I said she was "ugly." I believe it was in response to the Maxim end of year list that ranked her #1 and I said I thought that was a bit silly. And she is a toothpick, but I never said she wasn't attractive at all. If I did, quote me on it and I'll eat my crow.

Ironically, in an earlier Olivia Wilde vs. Olivia Munn poll, I voted Wilde..guess I don't think that poorly of her do I?

---------- Post added February-4th-2011 at 02:07 PM ----------



I think Marlena Shaw is pretty underrated. She's got some great song like her cover of California Soul. And the O'Jays are great also.

Perhaps it was a little unfair of me to say that you think of your opinion as gospel, but from your previous posts throughout I got the impression that you really are that ardent in your beliefs. If I am mistaken, my apologies. Now as to say what I truly believe is the best decade of music, I really don't know, I am not that knowledgeable about music to give a well informed answer, which of course would just be opinion anyway, there is no definitive answer. I do however believe that with any change in music, there will always be a group of people that will say that any previous music sucks because it is new to them. People hated on jazz, rock, rap, and who knows what will be hated on in the future.

For what it's worth, me personally I do not mind current pop music that much, I guess it's probably because I'm more relaxed about it. Music to me comes in a lot of different forms, I enjoy a lot of dumb mindless music because I can turn my brain off and just enjoy them while having a good time, sort of like a dumb mindless action movie; just sit back, relax and enjoy the great explosions and actions scenes. I really like "Whatever You Like" by TI and "Bottoms Up" by Trey Songz a lot for what they are for a couple of examples, at the same time I also enjoy a lot of well grounded, thoughtful music as well. I really hate Beiber though.

And I would both wreck Wilde and Munn, especially Wilde. I actually prefer girls with a little bit of meat on them, but damn Olivia Wilde is just something else in my mind.

[Bubble Screen]

I have both of those England Dan and John Ford Coley songs you mentioned. Good stuff.

Summer Breeze was actually sung by Seals & Croft. Nevermind.

[Sticksboi05]

Perhaps it was a little unfair of me to say that you think of your opinion as gospel, but from your previous posts throughout I got the impression that you really are that ardent in your beliefs. If I am mistaken, my apologies. Now as to say what I truly believe is the best decade of music, I really don't know, I am not that knowledgeable about music to give a well informed answer, which of course would just be opinion anyway, there is no definitive answer. I do however believe that with any change in music, there will always be a group of people that will say that any previous music sucks because it is new to them. People hated on jazz, rock, rap, and who knows what will be hated on in the future.

For what it's worth, me personally I do not mind current pop music that much, I guess it's probably because I'm more relaxed about it. Music to me comes in a lot of different forms, I enjoy a lot of dumb mindless music because I can turn my brain off and just enjoy them while having a good time, sort of like a dumb mindless action movie; just sit back, relax and enjoy the great explosions and actions scenes. I really like "Whatever You Like" by TI and "Bottoms Up" by Trey Songz a lot for what they are for a couple of examples, at the same time I also enjoy a lot of well grounded, thoughtful music as well. I really hate Beiber though.

And I would both wreck Wilde and Munn, especially Wilde. I actually prefer girls with a little bit of meat on them, but damn Olivia Wilde is just something else in my mind.

Well, I am pretty firm to my opinions. But, I am always willing to hear an argument and another side of the topic. I like songs like that at parties. Trey Songz gets 'em goin'.

As for Wilde, she's hot, but I still need a little more meat on the bones. Bar Rafaeli, now she's fine.

[stevemcqueen1]

No, i know Vampire Weekend isn't minimalist.. it's just another name i saw floating around the thread that I can't stand.
I've heard plenty of them. It sounds like children's music to me.

~Bang

Children's music? It's a bit highbrow for that. I honestly think their first album encapsulates the spirit of a blue blooded college campus as well as anything I've ever heard. Listening to "campus" made me nostalgic for being back in school. Vampire Weekend is far too talented to write off as being kid's music. They are compositionally sophisticated and draw from a pretty impressive and varied set musical roots (Afropop, jazz, punk). You said it yourself, you like musically complex artists and they certainly qualify.

Have you ever listened to modern African string music? I was fortunate to be exposed to Afropop as a sophomore in college by my Guitar teacher, who studied the instrument in West Africa. I'm pretty sure I remember my professor getting Oliver Mtukudzi to come speak to all of his students one time, but I didn't understand the significance of the visit at the time and didn't particularly note it.

At any rate, even if you haven't listened to or don't enjoy Afropop, you've at least listened to and enjoyed the modern American derivatives of traditional African music. I like that Vampire Weekend draws so heavily upon this kind of music because it's exceptionally listenable. Plus all of the privilege and bookishness in their music doesn't really bother me because I can relate to it a bit, having gone to a small academically elite liberal arts university. Their music feels very comfortable.

[Lombardi's_kid_brother]

As soon as I posted about the 30s, I realized that some blues archivist was going to rightfully call me out on it. Here is my one defense: Blues recordings from the 30s are difficult to find and the recordings are really really difficult to listen to when they are found. Shockingly, good recording equipment was not wildly available in Mississippi in 1932. I'm also not a terribly huge fan of the delta blues so it's a blind spot for me. (I love Chicago blues though).

But - yea - that was a big mistake by me.

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By the way, if you want a fairly inexpensive way to open your horizons on pre-rock American music, try this:

http://www.amazon.com/Roots-Bob-Dylan-DVD-Box/dp/B001URRY88/ref=pd_sim_m_1

Every music geek has this, but - to be honest - it never really blew my hair back:

http://www.amazon.com/Complete-Recordings-Robert-Johnson/dp/B000002ADN/ref=sr_1_1?s=music&ie=UTF8&qid=1296941003&sr=1-1

This on the other hand is my ****ing jam:

http://www.amazon.com/Hank-Williams-40-Greatest-Hits/dp/B000001F76/ref=sr_1_2?s=music&ie=UTF8&qid=1296941058&sr=1-2

Little Steven, on his Underground Garage, uses the Ramones as his starting point. So, if you want to learn all there is to know about garage rock, you start with the Ramones. Then you explore the bands that influenced the Ramones. Then you look at the bands the Ramones influenced.

Dylan is the obvious starting point for pretty much all of country, blues, folk, and rock. The first time I saw "Don't Look Back," the scene that haunted me was the impromptu performance of "Lost Highway." All I knew about Hank Williams at the time was that he was Hank, Jr's dad. So, I had to seek him out. And - good heavens - it's great stuff.

I'm not a huge fan of Roy Acuff, I have to say.

[ixcuincle]

Did you see the halftime show?

Did you see how bad it was?

Do you remember the Janet Jackson show?

This is today's music.

After I made my initial comment about decline of music, several people got mad and said 70's and 60's pop was the same. No it wasn't. 60's and 70's pop was good music. Music like Earth Wind and Fire. Music like Creedence Clearwater. They were mainstream. They were good.

80's popular music such as Van Halen and Bon Jovi remains popular. Then you look at this decade. There is a HUGE dropoff in talent. I need merely direct one to watch the halftime show to make my point. I don't want to hear about how music is not "mainstream", how good music can be found. The point i, this is the music that is played all the time on the radio. In the 60's and 70's, the music played all the time was CCR , the mainstream music back then was actually listenable. There was no autotune. There was real hip hop.

All that's gone now. Good music should be found without you having to search through it. How would you search for it anyway? The only way I'd know is to listen to what the Sklar Brothers suggest. They suggest some pretty good indie bands, unfortunately its' not the music that is most associated with the decade. The first thing that comes to mind in the 2000's music-wise is autotune, autotune and pop and loose clothing. Period.

Going to comment on SB now

[Enter Apotheosis]

Did you see the halftime show?

Did you see how bad it was?

Do you remember the Janet Jackson show?

This is today's music.

That is some of today's music.


All that's gone now. Good music should be found without you having to search through it. How would you search for it anyway? The only way I'd know is to listen to what the Sklar Brothers suggest. They suggest some pretty good indie bands, unfortunately its' not the music that is most associated with the decade. The first thing that comes to mind in the 2000's music-wise is autotune, autotune and pop and loose clothing. Period.

Going to comment on SB now

How do you search for anything, ix? It's truly unfortunate that you aren't resourceful enough to procure music you like using all of the tools the web affords you. It's even more unfortunate that you're letting your inability to be self-sufficient obscure the true value of an entire decade's worth of music.

[ixcuincle]

I understand your point, and there is good music in this decade (Sklar Brothers play it all the time on their podcast and radio show when they guest host Jim Rome show)

However I'm saying this pop crap and autotune sticks up like a sore thumb, an unhammered nail, of the decade, and really sets it back

It's what is most commonly associated with the decade, whether you like it or not, it's the most popular filth of the time

It's unfortunate but true

[Bang]

I must say, after a very weak start combined with tired ol' Slash and Fergie sounding just LIKE Axl rose (I don't know which one this insults)... I must say when Usher got there it turned around. I enjoyed it after that.
I like Usher so just him showing up was cool for me, and the show did get better after that.

And SteveMcQueen, cool name, and I get what you're saying, and when I say Vampire weekend sounds like children's music it's not not because of their lyrics or overall maturity level of the music.. just the sound of it. It sounds like Fisher Price to me.

~Bang

[Thiebear]

My children say its the best decade ever and cite several groups and songs.. (12 and 8yrs).

[WALL-LE]

ur age is showing

[drtdrums]

Pop music-wise, absolutely. With the exception of eminem, there's not really a "pop" act I can stomach.

Otherwise, I think it's the best decade ever. Lesser-known bands and DIY projects have just been awesome. Karnivool, Mogwai, Pelican, Cloudkicker, The Butterfly Effect, Dead Letter Circus....

I'm a pretty huge fan of the early 90's as well.

[stevemcqueen1]

What counts as mainstream now? Modest Mouse of all artists has their song is covered on American Idol and music played in car commercials. Deerhunter was on Conan O'Brien a week or two ago. The Black Keys gets played on cell phone commercials and when the NFL returns from commercial break. Arcade Fire shows up prominently on SNL and in their skits. The Go! Team is played on an NFL commercial depicting the Atlanta Falcons riding on a bus. A Vampire Weekend song is played during the opening credits of a popular movie nominated for a Best Picture Oscar this year.

Indie music is no longer consigned to college radio. It's literally everywhere you look.

[Chicken Fried]

Wayne the train Hancock is the best thing in country right now. Bob Wills style, texas swing.

I hadn't heard of him, but just listened to some on youtube. He' s very good, and that's the kind of country I like best.

[Bang]

What counts as mainstream now? Modest Mouse of all artists has their song is covered on American Idol and music played in car commercials. Deerhunter was on Conan O'Brien a week or two ago. The Black Keys gets played on cell phone commercials and when the NFL returns from commercial break. Arcade Fire shows up prominently on SNL and in their skits. The Go! Team is played on an NFL commercial depicting the Atlanta Falcons riding on a bus. A Vampire Weekend song is played during the opening credits of a popular movie nominated for a Best Picture Oscar this year.

Indie music is no longer consigned to college radio. It's literally everywhere you look.

it's one of the only ways to be heard these days,, commercialize. Wha used to be taboo is now necessary.
Albums don't sell anymore. Radio is dead as a medium for any music beyond pop or country, or spanish..
Getting your song in a commercial now is huge for the band's success.


And an update for elkabong and anyone else interested.. i went searching again and have found a Black Keys song I like.
It's called "No trust" and I'll play it next week. (This week's show is already done.)

~Bang

[HailGreen28]

The 60's were great with folk and psychedelic.

The 70's were lame with disco

The 80's rocked with metal

The 90's were great with alternative

The 2000's sucked, with pop no better than anything in the 80's.

so far...... lame.

[Lombardi's_kid_brother]

The 70's were lame with disco


Elvis Costello is going to beat you death (to a merseybeat, I might add) while David Bowie masturbates in a corner.

[Sticksboi05]

Yes Hail, because disco, the short-lived phenomenon catapulted by John Travolta in his white suit is what defines the 70's. Not Zeppelin or Aerosmith or Stevie Wonder...

[BRAVEONTHEWARPATH93]

Since this decade as seen the absolute desolation of the genre of hop hop, I'm negatively biased towards it.
Nearly all of the mainstream acts suck and the underground guys suck because they try to do too much or they get Famous then start sucking

It's bad when I'm watching MTV Jams and saying every video sucks

[Enzo]

The decade that had all those "Hair Bands" & the disco era.

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Disco shouldn't define the 1970s because it was in the late 1970s into the early 1980s. What should really define the 1970s is some of the greatest rock groups ever. Pink Floyd, The Eagles, Led Zeppelin, & most of the great bands from the 60s were at their best in the 70s. The 1980s was definitely the worse decade for music.

[Sticksboi05]

Not even the early 80's. I guess Funkytown is the last disco hit (which I actually like) and that was 1980.

But as for disco, Bee Gees and E,W, F are great acts.

[SWFLSkins]

So the 30's produced great music, name an artist? It like seems to me that like you are limiting the time line when saying like 'EVER'

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Not even the early 80's. I guess Funkytown is the last disco hit (which I actually like) and that was 1980.

But as for disco, Bee Gees and E,W, F are great acts.

Parliment. And if not for them do the Black Eyed Peas even happen? And where do all the remixes come from these days? The 70's and 80's

[boofMcboof]

So the 30's produced great music, name an artist? It like seems to me that like you are limiting the time line when saying like 'EVER'

---------- Post added February-7th-2011 at 01:42 PM ----------



Parliment. And if not for them do the Black Eyed Peas even happen? And where do all the remixes come from these days? The 70's and 80's


Duke Ellington
Robert Johnson
Stan Kenton

... are three that come straight to mind. Three of the most influential artists of the past 100 years.

[SWFLSkins]

Since this decade as seen the absolute desolation of the genre of hop hop, I'm negatively biased towards it.
Nearly all of the mainstream acts suck and the underground guys suck because they try to do too much or they get Famous then start sucking

It's bad when I'm watching MTV Jams and saying every video sucks

MTV plays video music, whew knew?

---------- Post added February-7th-2011 at 01:49 PM ----------


Duke Ellington
Robert Johnson
Stan Kenton

... are three that come straight to mind. Three of the most influential artists of the past 100 years.

Thanks, I hope you realize I was being sarcastic????(like)

Many people enjoy music from the fifties whereas I think that is one of the weaker eras at times, or I just don't dig the style. Unless it was early RnR or jazz. Obviously as far as RnR goes the thirties blues and into the 40's and 50's had much to do with the great RnR of the 60's-70's


I just don't think you can call one decade in the past 10 one of the worst ever.

[boofMcboof]

Thanks, I hope you realize I was being sarcastic????

Many people enjoy music from the fifties whereas I think that is one of the weaker eras at times, or I just don't dig the style. Unless it was early RnR or jazz. Obviously as far as RnR goes the thirties blues and into the 40's and 50's had much to do with the great RnR of the 60's-70's

Sorry, missed that. I was drawing up a longer list too . . . :)

[Lombardi's_kid_brother]

I will argue to my grave that 1977 was the greatest year for music ever.

And if the NFL did halftime shows like they did now, the performance would probably have been done by Abba. Discuss.

[SWFLSkins]

Sorry, missed that. I was drawing up a longer list too . . . :)

It's all good, just wanted to make sure you caught it. I think music flows creatively like a river, some times it trickles and sometimes it thrashes along.

"Jazz is a good barometer of freedom. In its beginnings, the United States
spawned certain ideals of freedom and independence through which,
eventually, jazz was evolved, and the music is so free that many people say
it is the only unhampered, unhindered expression of complete freedom
yet produced in this country."



--Duke Ellington

[SWFLSkins]

I will argue to my grave that 1977 was the greatest year for music ever.

And if the NFL did halftime shows like they did now, the performance would probably have been done by Abba. Discuss.

Great point LKB, the Black Eyed Peas for example have sold out to commericialism while trying to still be cool, it is like watching the latter day Elvis or MJ, the magic, she be gone, sad really.

[Lombardi's_kid_brother]

Naw probably KISS

---------- Post added February-7th-2011 at 02:13 PM ----------

We should consider a thread of what we consider great music by decade or music we are ashamed to admit we liked or still love by the decade.

One person's heavenly melody is another person's nails scratching the chalkboard.

I've done these threads. Everyone thinks that what appears on "Classic Rock" stations was on the Billboard Charts during its day. Those people are wrong.

Every now and then, commercial and artistic success meet. But that is rarely the case.

1977 is the greatest year for music.

You know what was the Top Ten Songs of 1977?

1. Tonight's the Night by Rod Stewart
2. I Just Wanna Be Your Everything by Andy Gibb
3. Best of my Love by The Emotions (I do not know this song)
4. Love Theme from "A Star is Born" by Barbara Streisand
5. Angel in Your Arms by Hot (I do not know this song)
6. I Like Dreamin' by Kenny Nolan (I do not know this song)
7. Don't Leave Me This Way by Thelma Houston (I like this song)
8. Your Love Has Lifted Me Higher and Higher by Rita Coolidge
9. Undercover Angel by Alan O'Day
10. Torn Between Two Lovers by Mary MacGregor

Sadly, Leo Sawyer did not make the list.

None of those songs are the reason 1977 is the greatest year for music ever.

Never Mind the Bollocks peaked at #106 on the album charts. The Clash did sneak all the way to #12 but had no singles charted. Rocket to Russia went all the way to #49, making it the biggest hit The Ramones ever had. My Aim is True was released in the UK in '77 but it took a year for it to get released in the US.

---------- Post added February-7th-2011 at 03:33 PM ----------

Also, Kiss would not have been the halftime show in 1977. I was alive in 1977. I was not allowed to listen to Kiss, because they were Satanists. At least, that is what every minister in the country believed.

Seriously, I heard sermons about Kiss in the late 70s.

I knew older kids listened to Kiss. And I knew Kiss was evil. So, I was out of my head with excitement when my aunt got married, moved to California, and left me her album collection. And in it was a Kiss album. I nearly peed. I had the evil in my bedroom. And my parents did not know it.

I put it on the record player. And the first song I heard was Hard Luck Woman.

Seriously.

A song that sounded like something Glen Campbell would do.

Proposed: Garth Brooks over of "Hard Luck Woman" is the definitive version of the song. Discuss.

[Lombardi's_kid_brother]

77-78 was my Fave time of my life because of not only was I a senior in High School I met my daughter's mom.

With the exception of the Barbara Streisand song I either had the Album or cassette recording of those songs.

I went to the KISS Alive tour ( Capital Centre Landover, Md) I think there was only 30 bruthas at the show and our group of 5 fellas from around the way enjoyed the show with guys who came as far away as Colorado to see the show. DR Love (my initials) was always my favorite song because I love the Gene Simmons persona and my hair at that time after I straightened it was past my shoulders.

Did you know that every 30 minutes, a black man is born in this country without Soul?

You can help. For the cost of a cup of coffee, you can help provide these suffering people with the Otis Redding albums they require to change their lives.

[JMS]

Now that the decade is officially over (not sure if it technically ended in Jan 2011, or Jan 2010, but in either case it's over), can we now say it was the worst decade of music ever ?

Seriously, what stands out in this past decade of music ?
Does any artist(s) stand out, to the degree that certain artists did in previous decades ?
Who defined the decade ?

Seems to me like the quality of music has gradually declined since the 70's, which were arguably the best or one of the best decades of music ever.


You evidently did not live through the 1970's... Disco Duck, Kung Fu fighting, Beegee's and Barry Manolow. Were pretty much the highlights.

I remember the first 70's clasics commercial I saw while watching saterday night live in the early 1980's; I thought it was a joke commercial.

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Seriously, I heard sermons about Kiss in the late 70s.

I knew older kids listened to Kiss. And I knew Kiss was evil. So, I was out of my head with excitement when my aunt got married, moved to California, and left me her album collection. And in it was a Kiss album. I nearly peed. I had the evil in my bedroom. And my parents did not know it.

I put it on the record player. And the first song I heard was Hard Luck Woman.

Seriously.

A song that sounded like something Glen Campbell would do.

Proposed: Garth Brooks over of "Hard Luck Woman" is the definitive version of the song. Discuss.

1985.... Spring Break.... I drove to florida with a good friend of mine from the dorm and spent the week cruzing the beaches, and living off the land so to speak.... We borrowed another guys car who flew down to florida after a few days to handg with us, before flying back.

My buddy also heard the sermons you speak of. He veto'd every album I brought except a Credence Clearwater Revival album. When I played Meatloaf "Bat out of Hell", which was a great album, he threatenned to get out of the car and walk home. Well after about 6 days of playing the same CCR album almost non stop, It got very very old. You're post really brought me back to that time.

---------- Post added February-7th-2011 at 03:27 PM ----------


77-78 was my Fave time of my life because of not only was I a senior in High School I met my daughter's mom.

With the exception of the Barbara Streisand song I either had the Album or cassette recording of those songs.


Which is pretty much explains why you are an extremely grumpy distrustful arch conservative who thinks the unseen hand is out to control America. Because you pretty much lived that reality in the music of the 1970's. Big record labels controled what was played on the airwaves via payolla sceams. The #1 song for the year of 1978 was "How Deep Is Your Love" by the Bee Gees.... Makes me sigh just thinking about it, and not in a good way. #1 song of 77 was Rod Stewarts "Tonight's the Night (Gonna Be Alright)";

Overall I think the 70's was a cultural void made such by a concerted effort to centrally control the music industry..... Still people of that era do look back fondly on the time. If you compare the music of the 70's to the 60's or 80's; the blandness and similar nature really comes threw. It was all rythm songs devoid of meaning. There was no Bruce or Bob Dylan. we got Manalow and Neil Diamond.

[JMS]

Angel in your arms
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/f/f7/Angel_in_your_arms_cover.jpeg/220px-Angel_in_your_arms_cover.jpeg

77-78 was my Fave time of my life because of not only was I a senior in High School I met my daughter's mom.

With the exception of the Barbara Streisand song I either had the Album or cassette recording of those songs.

I went to the KISS Alive tour ( Capital Centre Landover, Md) I think there was only 30 bruthas at the show and our group of 5 fellas from around the way enjoyed the show with guys who came as far away as Colorado to see the show. DR Love (my initials) was always my favorite song because I love the Gene Simmons persona and my hair at that time after I straightened it was past my shoulders.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/0/00/Bat_out_of_Hell.jpg


there were some great albumbs in the 1970's. Neil young, Iggy Pop, Led Zeplin, Hendrix... and MeatLoaf pictured above. Problem was all anybody listenned too was disco, beegees, manolow etc.

[Lombardi's_kid_brother]

Okay. I'm not going to sit here and let everyone just put down disco as a genre. Disco - like anything else - could be transcendent in the right hands.

It's the most overplayed album in history, but the Saturday Night Fever soundtrack sold 50 billion copies for a reason. And disco is the main reason for the Stones last masterpiece as "Some Girls" is a disco album. And Donna Summer was utterly fantastic.

Yes, eventually, disco got horribly overplayed and we started scraping the bottom of the barrel in a hurry. But the same is true for grunge or hip hop or electronica or any other new "genre."

Do you really want to defend Bush and Seven Mary Three as the standard bearers for grunge? Do you want me to break out The Fat Boys as the prime example of hip hop? (Note: I loved The Fat Boys).

Not every disco song was "Disco Duck."

Anyway, I have a theory and I stole it from Lady Miss Kier of Dee-Lite. The reason disco is looked down upon so strongly in some quarters is because it was the first "pop" music to emerge from gay culture. I'm sure most of the dudes sitting around drinking Strohs and listening to Steve Miller thought it was music for fags. And that's what led to stuff like Disco Demolition Night.

[Sticksboi05]

So the 30's produced great music, name an artist? It like seems to me that like you are limiting the time line when saying like 'EVER'

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Parliment. And if not for them do the Black Eyed Peas even happen? And where do all the remixes come from these days? The 70's and 80's

Parliament I love and G. Clinton but that's funk. Almost all old-school rap derives samples from jazz, disco, funk and Motown...(that's why it's vastly superior).

---------- Post added February-7th-2011 at 04:11 PM ----------


Okay. I'm not going to sit here and let everyone just put down disco as a genre. Disco - like anything else - could be transcendent in the right hands.

It's the most overplayed album in history, but the Saturday Night Fever soundtrack sold 50 billion copies for a reason. And disco is the main reason for the Stones last masterpiece as "Some Girls" is a disco album. And Donna Summer was utterly fantastic.

Yes, eventually, disco got horribly overplayed and we started scraping the bottom of the barrel in a hurry. But the same is true for grunge or hip hop or electronica or any other new "genre."

Do you really want to defend Bush and Seven Mary Three?

Not every disco song was "Disco Duck."

Anyway, I have a theory and I stole it from Lady Miss Kier of Dee-Lite. The reason disco is looked down upon so strongly in some quarters is because it was the first "pop" music to emerge from gay culture. I'm sure most of the dudes sitting around drinking Strohs and listening to Steve Miller thought it was music for fags. And that's what led to stuff like Disco Demolition Night.

Bee Gees were great. All their Saturday Night Fever songs are great as is A Fifth of Beethoven and If I Can't Have You IMO of course. Earth, Wind and Fire were great also.

[Lombardi's_kid_brother]

Parliament I love and G. Clinton but that's funk. Almost all old-school rap derives samples from jazz, disco, funk and Motown...(that's why it's vastly superior).

---------- Post added February-7th-2011 at 04:11 PM ----------



Bee Gees were great. All their Saturday Night Fever songs are great as is A Fifth of Beethoven and If I Can't Have You IMO of course. Earth, Wind and Fire were great also.


I discovered a few years ago that Earth, Wind, and Fire are the Steve Miller of Disco/Funk. Their hits are really all you need to hear.

(I keep putting down Steve Miller, don't I?)

[Sticksboi05]

I discovered a few years ago that Earth, Wind, and Fire are the Steve Miller of Disco/Funk. Their hits are really all you need to hear.

(I keep putting down Steve Miller, don't I?)

But you're right, ha.

As for JMS's post: The Bee Gees aren't really even a disco group. They did a handful of songs for SNF and the movie blew up into a phenomenon and that's why they are associated with disco.

[Lombardi's_kid_brother]

But you're right, ha.

As for JMS's post: The Bee Gees aren't really even a disco group. They did a handful of songs for SNF and the movie blew up into a phenomenon and that's why they are associated with disco.

Disco is a genre. I'm not sure why disco acts have to get labled so heavily.

The Beastie Boys have done funk and jazz-fusion albums. They don't get labled with that.

---------- Post added February-7th-2011 at 05:23 PM ----------

Here's what this reminds me of.

Did you ever meet someone who says like they all "music except country" or "all music except rap?" Do not be friends with these people, because they are most likely horrible bigots and it will take you a long time to figure that out.

[JMS]

10. Torn Between Two Lovers by Mary MacGregor
.

OMG..... I really really really hated that song... I remember they played that song for months.. every other song. Driving to church as a kid it was not uncommon to hear that thing like three times. Our church was 15 minutes away by car. Every middle aged woman on the planet wanted that song on continous play loop for like three years, Even today the mention of that song releaves me temporarily from control of my baser body functions..

It's like one of your truely most unpleasent memories as a child... Oh god help me; I just played back the tune in my head, now it will be with me for days....

Three songs which fill me full of an irrational rage...


Ripped2Lvrs,
MacArthur Park Cake rain... angst...
Edie Brickell and the New Bohemians..."What I am" How many cheap cleches can one fit into one song's lyrics... A celebration of idiocy.

[SWFLSkins]

1977 snap shot---------------------sounds like alot of the players were wasted.

January 1 - The Clash headline the gala opening of the London music club, The Roxy.
January 12 - Rolling Stones guitarist Keith Richards is fined 750 pounds for possession of cocaine which was found in his wrecked car on May 19, 1976. Richards was charged an additional 250 pounds for court costs and found "not guilty" of possession of LSD. ;0
January 26
Patti Smith falls off the stage while opening for Bob Seger in Tampa, Florida. Smith is rushed to the hospital for 22 stitches to close head lacerations. While recovering, Smith writes her fifth book of poetry, Babel.
Fleetwood Mac's original lead guitarist, Peter Green, is committed to a mental hospital in England after firing a pistol at a delivery boy bringing him a royalties check.
Alice Cooper enters rehab for his alcoholism, after ten years of drinking a pack of beer a day.
January 27 - After releasing only one single for the band, EMI terminates its contract with the Sex Pistols.
February 4 - American Bandstand celebrates its 25th anniversary on television with a special hosted by Dick Clark. An "all-star band" made up of Chuck Berry, Seals & Crofts, Gregg Allman, Junior Walker, Johnny Rivers, the Pointer Sisters, Charlie Daniels, Doc Severinsen, Les McCann, Donald Byrd, Chuck Mangione and three members of Booker T and the MGs perform "Roll Over Beethoven."
February 14 - The B-52's make their debut at a party in Athens, Georgia
February 15 - Sid Vicious replaces Glen Matlock as the bassist for the Sex Pistols.
February 27 - Royal Canadian Mounted Police raid Keith Richards' Toronto hotel suite while he is sleeping and seize 22 grams of heroin, 5 grams of cocaine and narcotics paraphernalia. Richards is arrested and charged with possession of heroin with intent to traffic, and possession of cocaine. He is released on $25,000 bail.
March 1 - Sara Lowndes Dylan files for divorce from her husband of 11 years, Bob Dylan.
March 10 - A&M Records signs the Sex Pistols in a ceremony in front of Buckingham Palace. The contract is terminated on March 16.
April 22 - Pink Floyd opened the North American leg of their "Animals" tour in Miami, Florida.
April 24 - Several artists, including Joan Baez and Santana, perform at a free concert for the inmates of California's Soledad Prison.
April 25 - During a concert at the Saginaw, Michigan Civic Center, Elvis Presley makes what would turn out to be the last recordings he would ever make. Three songs recorded at the show would later appear (with overdubs), on the album, Moody Blue.
April 26 - New York's disco Studio 54 opens.
May 7 - Having been postponed from April 2 because of a BBC technicians' strike, the 22nd Eurovision Song Contest finally goes ahead in London's Wembley Conference Centre. France wins with Marie Myriam and the song "L'Oiseau et l'Enfant".
May 11 - The Stranglers and support band London start a 10 week national UK tour.
June - Founding of the Nikikai Opera Foundation.
June 12 - The Supremes performed for the last time together at Drury Lane Theatre in London and officially disbanded.
June 22 - Kiss are elected "most popular band in America" by a Gallup poll.
July 9 - Donna Summer's hit record "I Feel Love" is released in the UK. It was massively influential in pop music as it was the first hit record ever to have an entirely synthesised backing track and helped propel the use of synthesisers in music greatly, especially in the 1980s.
July 24 - Led Zeppelin perform in Oakland at their last ever concert in the United States.
August 16 - Elvis Presley is found dead at his home Graceland in Memphis, Tennessee.
August 17 - Florists Transworld Delivery (FTD) reported that in one day the number of orders for flowers to be delivered to Graceland for the funeral of Elvis Presley had surpassed the number for any other event in the company's history.

[jnhay]

For some reason, I associate disco with just lame music. I don't think Earth, Wind and Fire are lame so they can't be disco!




Did you ever meet someone who says like they all "music except country" or "all music except rap?" Do not be friends with these people, because they are most likely horrible bigots and it will take you a long time to figure that out.

I'm not really sure what that means. Aren't these people more open-minded than 90% of music listeners? I must admit that I only like a small sliver of the country music genre. I know a lot of people might say "all except___" but are really just lying and mean that they only like most of the music you hear over and over on the radio.

[Renegade7]

This debate is going all over the place and making me wonder if the question is "worst decade of music ever?" or "worst decade of popular music ever?". If the question is B: you could make an arguement based of personal preference or experience; as long as you don't hate on Alicia Keys, then you have to die.

But if the question is indeed "worst decade of music ever", that's flat out impossible to answer. There's too much music now, with a huge a swath of great music many of us won't get a chance to enjoy even if we tried to find it all.

I'd make the arguement that this is the greatest decade of music simple because of this fact; the underground has exploded.

Regular radio has completely failed us, so flipping thru the stations and saying I'm more annoyed now then I was in the 80's or 90's is rediculous.

I'm sure somebody's already on top of this now, but until there's a easier way to find these "hidden gems" and expose them to the masses, we'll keep having these debates, spinning in circles every 3 or 4 months on "what happened to music"?

And as long as crap albums keep getting bought hundreds of thousands at a time, does that really mean anyone seriously wants change? Does anyone really care?

[Lombardi's_kid_brother]

And as long as crap albums keep getting bought hundreds of thousands at a time, does that really mean anyone seriously wants change? Does anyone really care?

What world are you living in where hundreds of thousands of crap albums are being sold?

The main problem right now is that no albums are getting bought.

You can spit venom at the record industry all you want (and you should), but the fact that all the labels are dying means that the only artists who are going to get any kind of support are the ones guaranteed to go - and this is the world we live in now - Gold. As I've pointed out before, Cake had the #1 album in the country at one point last month with 44,000 units moved in a week. Once upon a time, that might have gotten you into the Top 50. Maybe.

Labels simply don't have the room now to sign the next Pixies or REM or a band that is going to sell 100,000 units to the college kids and at least pay back the production costs plus a little more. Hell, the sales numbers that once got you assigned to smaller divisions on the big labels now make you Taylor Swift.

That's the frustrating thing. There is probably more new music than ever before and it's all accessible. I just have no idea how you sift through it all any longer. It seems like you need to have endless time watching YouTube clips of terrible bands or something.

[Sticksboi05]

Yup. Almost all music that could be heard by a mass audience is controlled by the Big 4 now.

[Mickalino]

Dude, the 80s was one of the better decades of music. These guys have it all wrong.

As for the question at hand? I wouldn't say its the worst. Not even close. To me, the 90s was probably the worst. Boy bands. Ugh. So ghey.

Oh, so boy bands were representative and accurately reflective of the entire decade of the 90's ?

[Bang]

Boy bands have existed in every era of pop music.
They are absolutely not unique to any generation. There will be more.

~Bang

[Bubble Screen]

Oh, so boy bands were representative and accurately reflective of the entire decade of the 90's ?

A good bit of it, yes.

[Bang]

A good bit of it, yes.

Boy bands are only reflective of the pre-teen girl demographic of the pop genre.
As i said, they exist in every era, and they're always hugely popular, always among the same demo.

You know why I don't associate the 90s with the big boy bands? The same reason I don't associate the 80s with Pet Shop Boys or the 70s with thec Osmond Brothers.

Because I didn't listen to them. I associate the 90s with the re-awakening of psychedelia, the re-emergence of british guitars, and the death of CDs. Because I realize that they are an inevitable by-product of pop music and pop culture, and like a pimple, will definitely go away if you ignore them.

They're nothing but fluff for little kids. Why you or anyone would give so much weight to their "popularity" would only indicate that they hold that position in your mind.. because they certainly don't qualify otherwise. Most of them don't even qualify as a "band".. just a collection of singers that passed an audition and were grouped together by a record company with the express purpose of selling desire to little girls.
Over the history of pop music, they are a footnote in a long string of such footnotes.


By the by, for all those I was talking with earlier in the thread,,, 7PM tonight,, the Bang Music Hour.. I'll pop my thread back up later as a reminder. Lots of new and old music tonight.

~Bang

[mcsluggo]

Yes. You do need to say more. Because no synth keyboard song could ever top this:

[billy don't be a hero]

my daughters {5, 7, and 9} have all been wailing out this song at the top of their lungs for about 6 weeks now... i hve NO idea how this made it into my house. I played a different ytube version of this song for them (I think the band was playing on some sort of lawrence welk type show) to try to scare them, but it only encoureged them, AND taught them more of the lyrics.

sigh.

...... this last week they have been singing {shaving cream} {oh yes they call him the streak} and {punk rock girl} instead, so perhaps the reign of terror is ended.

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ur age is showing

Uhm.... <blush>

zzzzzzip.

[Sticksboi05]

A good bit of it, yes.

Late 90's....1997-1999. Yeah, Backstreet Boys were all over Nirvana and Pearl Jam back in the early 90's....riiiight.

[Chicken Fried]

Find me a better voice than this nowadays. Just listen to 0:49. That is talent. Talent is not completely gone. You just have to find it.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uFz61X2PQTw

[Lombardi's_kid_brother]

You know why I don't associate the 90s with the big boy bands? The same reason I don't associate the 80s with Pet Shop Boys or the 70s with thec Osmond Brothers.


How dare you insult The Pet Shop Boys that way?

Have you no decency, sir?

[Bang]

I will say this for Pet Shop Boys.
They were awful.
But not as awful as the Human League.
Even at music's worst, there are times when it's at least possible to see what the record exec did when he gave them a contract. Like Pet Shop Boys,, appeal to the androgynous club crowd with insipid inoffensive electronica that may or may not be homosexual references. There's a market.

But Human League .. I just can't find a single marketable quality about that dreck. I can't see why they don't just sell albums of people dragging razor blades down a chalkboard while surrounded by reasonably attractive (dog-butt ugly) British girls who dance with the vigor and creativity of frozen roadkill.


Anyway, the Bang Music Hour is due to start in about 45 minutes.
http://radio.thebaynet.com/

~Bang

[boofMcboof]

I will say this for Pet Shop Boys.
They were awful.
~Bang


What have they done to deserve this? It's a sin that you say that about them or is it just jealousy. Maybe it's because they appealed to suburbia? Look, they had opportunities to make lots of money and they did. Eh, their legacy will always be on my mind so I guess I'll be left to my own devices.

[Bang]

Well, just got a text that my show is off tonight since they're having yet more computer issues.

What a circus.

~Bang

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What have they done to deserve this? It's a sin that you say that about them or is it just jealousy. Maybe it's because they appealed to suburbia? Look, they had opportunities to make lots of money and they did. Eh, their legacy will always be on my mind so I guess I'll be left to my own devices.

I suggest you read the recently released white paper from 1984 that shows that the Pet Shop Boys were subversive anarchists who cleverly hid their attempts to upset the world's power balance beneath really gay hairdos and limp synth pop.
The infamous "West End Boys" were responsible for hundreds of terrorist attacks in the 80s.. That is to say that when a young man decided to become a fan of the band and dressed accordingly, it terrified his father.

~Bang

[skinfan2k]

as long as i can have ke$ha who cares!

[Busch1724]

So from this decade what do you figure will be played on radio 20 years from now? Nickelback seem to be the Journey of this era. I can't think of much else besides some Kid Rock, White Stripes, some Weezer, and I'm forgetting a few others. I just don't see many of the Active Rock bands that dominate radio now being played much except for a few Godsmack songs along with some Disturbed because it's just too heavy for most to listen to years from now.

[Bang]

Radio hasn't required that music be good for a long time.

~Bang

[Sticksboi05]

So from this decade what do you figure will be played on radio 20 years from now? Nickelback seem to be the Journey of this era. I can't think of much else besides some Kid Rock, White Stripes, some Weezer, and I'm forgetting a few others. I just don't see many of the Active Rock bands that dominate radio now being played much except for a few Godsmack songs along with some Disturbed because it's just too heavy for most to listen to years from now.

And in the end, Weezer is a 90's band.

Kanye probably.

[Lombardi's_kid_brother]

I will say this for Pet Shop Boys.
They were awful.


Whothe? Whatthe? Gasp!

They wrote about 20 absolutely perfect pop songs AND they brought Dusty Springfield back into the public eye.

They should be knighted.

[Busch1724]

Bang right on with Pet Shop Boys. Debbie Gibson wrote perfectly good pop songs too.

[Lombardi's_kid_brother]

Bang right on with Pet Shop Boys. Debbie Gibson wrote perfectly good pop songs too.

A. That is correct. It's unclear to me why that is unworthy of praise. A three-minute pop song may be the highest form of art our society produces. Bob Dylan was once asked to name America's greatest poet and he responded "Smokey Robinson." I think that is probably the correct answer.

B. When "Suburbia" comes on, I stand up and yell, "Ahhh ****...that's my jam, son."

[Bang]

:ols: LKB yer killin' me.

~Bang

[Busch1724]

I'd rather Bob Seger than Pet Shop Boys.

[Bang]

I think even Predicto might go along with that.

~Bang

[Lombardi's_kid_brother]

Next, you maniacs are going to say that you don't like Erasure or New Order.

One of my friends in college was Asian dude from Long Island. He was the definition of the extremely spoiled first child of very successful immigrants. And he had the largest CD collection of anyone I knew at the time - probably 1200 or so (it would take mine another ten years to reach that number).

The weird thing was, he only had four artists in his CD collection - Erasure, The Pet Shop Boys, Yaz, and New Order. He had every single of every song and he had the import version of each one from every country in the world. The even weirder thing was the only CD he played was some import CD of "Always" by Erasure. The absolute weirdest thing was that he was straight. Koreans can be odd people. (The in-thing in his social circle at the time was for girls to have surgery to make their eyes "More American.")

[Renegade7]

What world are you living in where hundreds of thousands of crap albums are being sold?

The main problem right now is that no albums are getting bought.

You can spit venom at the record industry all you want (and you should), but the fact that all the labels are dying means that the only artists who are going to get any kind of support are the ones guaranteed to go - and this is the world we live in now - Gold. As I've pointed out before, Cake had the #1 album in the country at one point last month with 44,000 units moved in a week. Once upon a time, that might have gotten you into the Top 50. Maybe.

Labels simply don't have the room now to sign the next Pixies or REM or a band that is going to sell 100,000 units to the college kids and at least pay back the production costs plus a little more. Hell, the sales numbers that once got you assigned to smaller divisions on the big labels now make you Taylor Swift.

That's the frustrating thing. There is probably more new music than ever before and it's all accessible. I just have no idea how you sift through it all any longer. It seems like you need to have endless time watching YouTube clips of terrible bands or something.

I don't know if you missed my point, but what I'm saying is people are complaining about bad music, but people are still buying the albums. As many people that can't stand BET and what it's become, enough people love it and there isn't anything close to a unified front demanding change.

Gucci Mane “State Vs. Radric Davis” - 203,000

Rick Ross “Deeper Than Rap” - 406,905

Young Money “We Are Young Money” - 212,000

http://www.ihiphop.com/?p=41726

These are albums released in 2009 and the sales they incurred into Janurary 2010. I wish I could give the large music companies the benifit of the doubt that their excuse for pushing cookie-cut rappers is because it's the safest way to make money, but they brought this on themselves by doing it for years. As much as downloading and pirating music is hurting them, a major part of capitalism is taking risks.

[Bang]

I actually do like some New Order.

~Bang

[Busch1724]

Next, you maniacs are going to say that you don't like Erasure or New Order.




Nope don't like them either. I just didn't get that whole scene.

[Mickalino]

Next, you maniacs are going to say that you don't like Erasure or New Order.


What have you got against 10,000 Maniacs ?

H14R4ZsMM0E

[ibarramedia]

I like 80's,90's,2000's and 2010's music. I also like the new wave, alternative,industrial, dance, club .freestyle music. So maybe some of you guys don't like a prticular genre more than an era. You could listen to Green Day, Avril lavigne, All American rejects, the killers and fit right in the 80's and not miss a beat.

[CoolUsernameHere]

How have The Strokes not been mentioned more in this thread? What a great band. Their new single is awesome and I can't wait for their new album in March.

To me, the 2 reasons the Oughts wasn't the worst decade in music- The Strokes and The Roots.

[Bang]

Love the Roots.. Not so much on the Strokes. I really like some of their stuff, and some of it I can pass on. They're good, and I'd really be interested in hearing their new single.. what is th title, and I'll youtube it up.


For any STILL interested after last week,, they assure me the radio station is thru with it's computer troubles and there's no more HS basketball to bump me, so the Bang Music Hour will be fresh tomorrow night, and I'll be playing a lot of stuff from the 00s as folks seem tobe interested in hearing something new.

Elkabong will be especially happy to learn I will be playing the Black Keys this week.

~Bang