View Full Version : Gas Grills - Reccomendations
skins1206
March-10th-2011, 08:27 AM
Anyone have recommendations on a gas grill? Get a cheaper one (like 200-300) or get a Weber and spend the extra money. Is there anyone who actually thinks its worth it?
KDawg
March-10th-2011, 08:28 AM
You're going to get lambasted by the Coalition :)
I forget what brand mine is... I'll look when I get home if I remember...
PS: I'll be getting a small charcoal grill this summer :)
skins1206
March-10th-2011, 08:33 AM
Oh trust me I know there will be a ton of people coming in saying get charcoal hahaha
SWFLSkins
March-10th-2011, 08:33 AM
GAS? Weber Genesis, it will set you back but with some wood smoker chunks it is as close to charcoal for slow controlled cooking as you could get.
Kosher Ham
March-10th-2011, 08:36 AM
What are you trying to cook with your grill ?
Answers without verifying needs are useless.
Park City Skins
March-10th-2011, 08:50 AM
GAS? Weber Genesis, it will set you back but with some wood smoker chunks it is as close to charcoal for slow controlled cooking as you could get.
Yeah. Weber will set one back a little,but they're great grills,(for the most part),and are known for their durability. I can't have a charcoal grill where I live,so Weber it is.
KDawg
March-10th-2011, 08:51 AM
Yeah. Weber will set one back a little,but they're great grills,(for the most part),and are known for their durability. I can't have a charcoal grill where I live,so Weber it is.
Report the establishment to the Coalition. They'll take care of the issue.
Mickalino
March-10th-2011, 08:54 AM
You wanna use a gas grill with THESE gas prices ? :silly:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v464/beachmick/990_n.jpg
skins1206
March-10th-2011, 08:55 AM
Just cooking burgers, steaks, etc...the traditional stuff.
Forehead
March-10th-2011, 08:55 AM
I can't have a charcoal grill where I live
Which circle of hell is this? The second? Fourth?
Park City Skins
March-10th-2011, 08:59 AM
Report the establishment to the Coalition. They'll take care of the issue.
:rotflmao: Well people here at work think I'm nuts because of the laughing. They also know I'm on the net. :silly:
Oh. And I'll let the HOA know that the "coalition" will be in contact with them shortly,(and they'll possibly be expected to provide information on what kind of beer they drink and if they eat at Subway or McDonald's). :silly:
Stadium-Armory
March-10th-2011, 09:01 AM
Yeah. Weber will set one back a little,but they're great grills,(for the most part),and are known for their durability. I can't have a charcoal grill where I live,so Weber it is.
I wanted a Weber genesis but couldn't afford it, so I got a Weber Spirit E-210. The "spirit" line is the cheapy entry line of grills kind of like the C class is to Mercedes (or 300 series is to BMW) :silly:.
At 458 sq in., the cooking area isn't big, but its not like I regularly cook large meals on the grill. We entertain pretty often, and I've got 4 kids, and there is plenty of room. The thing is a gem, it always starts, its easy to clean and cooks evenly. My only complaint is that the burners are front and back, not left and right.
http://www.weber.com/explore/Grill_details.aspx?glid=1&mid=1
To give you a bit of perspective, this is the cheapest weber on the planet and its $400 +. Totally worth it though.
Park City Skins
March-10th-2011, 09:04 AM
Which circle of hell is this? The second? Fourth?
5th. But at what they charge per month and what we get in return,they're quickly moving up the ranks. :mad:
USS Redskins
March-10th-2011, 09:32 AM
I have a Charbroil Red - its an infrared grill with no direct flame. The infrared energy moves through a trough that covers the flame... the temps get up to over 700 degrees and sear meat to perfection (well the cut of meat helps too).
I like it allot but the one thing I miss is the char from a flame... otherwise, my grilling has never been better. My wife hates grilled food but has loved the last year plus since I have owned it as I have really hit some home runs with steak, etc..
IIt uses a 1/3 of the propane of a regular grill and Cleaning is a breeze as you just turn it on high and let the heat turn everything into ash. Just wipe away and done.
I got mine at home dept on sale for $325 in Jan 2010 - not sure what they are now but I imagine in the $399 range.
Good luck with whatever you decide.
SWFLSkins
March-10th-2011, 10:02 AM
I have had two Webers in my life, they are worth the money. We cook a perfect Turkey on T-day every year. The Genesis is worth the price, three burners and very good direct or in-direct cooking.
da#1skinsfan
March-10th-2011, 10:17 AM
Weber is way overpriced in my opinion. Especially the lower end models...what you pay for a spirit and the quality you get is nuts. Just take a look at the grilling surface it comes with...seriously?!?
Check out "Ducane" grills - owned by Weber. The 3 burner affinity model is much cheaper than the spirit & a better grill all around. If thats youre price range ($400 and under) Ducane is a great option. I have the stainless affinity, got it for like $300 shipped, its awesome. Weber's dirty little secret :)
Sticksboi05
March-10th-2011, 11:28 AM
Gas? Really? Shame on you.
zoony
March-10th-2011, 11:29 AM
I just bought a Weber last week. Only used it once, but I immediately could tell why it cost $800.
Don't waste your money on anything else.
skins1206
March-10th-2011, 12:17 PM
I just bought a Weber last week. Only used it once, but I immediately could tell why it cost $800.
Don't waste your money on anything else.
Can you elaborate?
Anyone else have thoughts on the newer infrared grills?
zoony
March-10th-2011, 12:21 PM
Can you elaborate?
Anyone else have thoughts on the newer infrared grills?
Check the construction of the firebox. Or really, the fact that it is the only grill in that price range that even has one.
There are no hot or cold spots on the grill. None. You put a burger down in front, it is going to cook at the same rate as a burger in the back. My father in law spent $1000 on a beautiful Brinks SS Grill. Looks beautiful. Cooks like ****.
Read any blog on the entire internet. Weber is the only grill worth having in that price range. Whether you're cooking with indirect heat, direct heat, rotisserie, etc.
And the infrared are cool, sure. But it's another way for crappy manufacturers like Char-Broil to fool a shopper at Lowes into buying an inferior grill. You'll need to replace it within 5 years.
Weber doesn't waste their money on things like low-grade stainless steel (that rusts anyways. Hold a magnet to it. It ain't stainless.) They spend their money on quality construction and design of the grill.
There is a reason they can charge $700 for a grill that has no side-burner, no stainless steel to speak of, no gimmicks, no infrared, etc. and have millions of people on the internet swearing that you are wasting your money buying something else.
Meanwhile you can get the Char Broil all stainless with infrared burners, side burners, and a BJ for $400. There's a reason for it, you read it here first. It's a great big piece of ****.
SWFLSkins
March-10th-2011, 12:50 PM
For those looking for the best quality out there, Ducane is certainly a brand to look at, however its owner, Weber is generally acknowledged to offer the markets premium grills.
http://www.gasgrill.org/ducane-gas-grills/
I don't know about dirty little secret, but Weber is still worth the premium IMO. Ducane certainly would safice but make sure either way it is a three burner with stainless grates and deflectors.
da#1skinsfan
March-10th-2011, 03:23 PM
For those looking for the best quality out there, Ducane is certainly a brand to look at, however its owner, Weber is generally acknowledged to offer the markets premium grills.
http://www.gasgrill.org/ducane-gas-grills/
I don't know about dirty little secret, but Weber is still worth the premium IMO. Ducane certainly would safice but make sure either way it is a three burner with stainless grates and deflectors.
It depends what you want - to me, the Genesis is not worth $800. Im not in the market for an $800 standalone grill. The $300 Ducane is the best value on the market compared to any others in the price range. If you're looking for a <$500 grill, look at Ducane. If $800 is your number, the Weber is just fine. But again, in my eyes for my use cases, still overpriced.
Ducane is near Weber-quality and WAY lower than Weber prices, in my eyes.
zoony
March-10th-2011, 03:24 PM
Years ago Ducane used to be the rolls royce of grills. Not sure what happened
dockeryfan
March-10th-2011, 03:32 PM
I have like a $300 propane grill that I never use. It just sits under a cover getting lonely. I pretty much only grill with charcoal now.
SWFLSkins
March-10th-2011, 03:46 PM
It depends what you want - to me, the Genesis is not worth $800. Im not in the market for an $800 standalone grill. The $300 Ducane is the best value on the market compared to any others in the price range. If you're looking for a <$500 grill, look at Ducane. If $800 is your number, the Weber is just fine. But again, in my eyes for my use cases, still overpriced.
Ducane is near Weber-quality and WAY lower than Weber prices, in my eyes.
All I can tell you is based on how many cheaper grills I threw out before my last two Webers, the current one is a gensis and the number of uses they have had earned them a loyal customer. I would certainly look at the Ducane based on your comments, but I use my grill more than the range in the kitchen so price is relevant for my level of usage and the quality that Weber offers for that. I have not overcooked at steak in over two years with my grill, how much is that worth? I can also slow cook pork ribs, roasts etc. with tremendous tempature control. Indirect is not a problem and I can get it good and smoky using wet chunks and rosemary sprigs.
I appreciate you mentioning the Ducane and would pass that info on to anyone who maybe did not want to foot the Weber price but wants a great grill.
DCSaints_fan
March-10th-2011, 11:58 PM
Which circle of hell is this? The second? Fourth?
Seems like thats the case in the apartment complexes around here (the Bay Area) - its considered a fire hazard.
Sure wasn't the case in Houston. I would practically light my entire patio and no one would even blink.
Yusuf06
March-11th-2011, 12:07 AM
Yeah. Weber will set one back a little,but they're great grills,(for the most part),and are known for their durability. I can't have a charcoal grill where I live,so Weber it is.
I ran into Hank Hill the other day. Now that he's retired from Strickland Propane he's finally able to tell the truth. He said that "taste the meat, not the heat" stuff is total Tomfoolery Itellyawhut.
So, say a smart guy like you got an empty propane cylinder to use as a prop with your real, genu-wine, charcoal goodness grill. What with the wood chips and smoke from the food, who'd know? Besides, if a neighbor comes nosing around you can just buy his silence with a couple of burgers cooked the way they're supposed to be. :)
Tarhog
March-12th-2011, 09:32 PM
Couple things about Weber gas grills. First of all, as mentioned, most have the 3 burner row option. That is a huge selling point since you can cool indirectly by turning off the center burner. Great for seafood and also for grilling turkey. I've done that for the past 6 or 7 years and it is incredibly easy, and comes out just beautiful. The other great thing is, you can easily replace the 'guts' of your grill every couple of years if need be. I've had my Genesis for almost 10 years - replaced the guts 3 times, and the only reason I'll replace it this summer with a brand new Weber is because the frame has actually started to rust out and I'm afraid the entire cooktop is going to collapse one day soon.
I am a huge Weber fan. Sometimes - you get what you pay for.
stevenaa
March-12th-2011, 09:56 PM
It pained me to pay the bucks for the Genesis, but I thank my wife everytime I use it because she prodded me to get what I wanted when I was trying to "cheap out". 800 seems ridiculous for a grill, but everytime I use it I smile. I looked at the Ducanes. Cheaper construction. I was intrigued by the Char-Broil red but every salesmen I asked about it wouldn't own one because of the poor quality. I started out wanting to spend under 400 bucks, and there was nothing in that price range that seemed to have any quality, except the Weber Spirit, and I wanted a few more features. My second grill is a weber kettle. I'll probably pop for a Green Egg this summer to dabble with some smoking. Plus I love a wood fired pizza and the Egg is supposed to do that very well.
DButz65
March-13th-2011, 04:00 AM
I own the Weber Performer (google it) and love it to death! Charcoal grill but lights with propane and is easy to clean/use. I just found this online, awww hell yea lol http://www.cast-iron-grate.com/
Going to order at least the grates to check them out
Charcoal > gas :)
HOF44
April-20th-2011, 01:47 PM
I just purchased the Weber Spirit 210 from Home Depot. What made me pull the trigger was for some reason it had cast iron grates, not the cheap porcelain covered steel. The price was the same as the one at Lowes with the cheap grates. I usually go for really inexpensive grills and they do cook like crap, flame ups and hot/cold spots. I'll get to use it this weekend and let you know what I think.
Heisenberg
April-22nd-2011, 02:15 PM
Just put together my new Weber Genesis EP-330 last night. Hoping the rain will let up a bit tonight so I can attempt to cook with it.
I've never cooked using gas before so I'm looking forward to learning and hope I don't screw up dinner in the short-term.
The new Weber Genesis models have the north to south burners (along with knobs on the front of the grill) - I'm curious how this will work for the indirect cooking methods that many of you discussed earlier in this thread.
zoony
April-22nd-2011, 02:18 PM
Just put together my new Weber Genesis EP-330 last night. Hoping the rain will let up a bit tonight so I can attempt to cook with it.
I've never cooked using gas before so I'm looking forward to learning and hope I don't screw up dinner in the short-term.
The new Weber Genesis models have the north to south burners (along with knobs on the front of the grill) - I'm curious how this will work for the indirect cooking methods that many of you discussed earlier in this thread.
I have the same grill, you will love it.
I bought the rotisserie and found that by shutting off the middle burner and keeping the outside burners on medium low, I was able to maintain 300 degrees almost perfectly.
Did 2 peruvian chickens for right at 100 minutes, turned out perfectly!
Heisenberg
April-22nd-2011, 02:23 PM
I have the same grill, you will love it.
I bought the rotisserie and found that by shutting off the middle burner and keeping the outside burners on medium low, I was able to maintain 300 degrees almost perfectly.
Did 2 peruvian chickens for right at 100 minutes, turned out perfectly!
Have you used the "Sear Station" at all?
I've read a bit online to use it for steaks and stuff but I have a feeling I'm going to screw up some meals before I finally figure the damn thing out.
EDIT: I might have to PM you for that recipe sometime, sounds amazing.
MSB 21
April-22nd-2011, 06:06 PM
http://www.amazingribs.com/BBQ_buyers_guide/grills/gas_grill_reviews_and_ratings.html
I've been visiting this site for the past few years now.
Some solid info and some great tips and recipes. IMHO
GoSkins561
April-23rd-2011, 08:45 AM
What are you trying to cook with your grill ?
Answers without verifying needs are useless.
Huh? :doh:
zoony
April-23rd-2011, 08:50 AM
Have you used the "Sear Station" at all?
I've read a bit online to use it for steaks and stuff but I have a feeling I'm going to screw up some meals before I finally figure the damn thing out.
EDIT: I might have to PM you for that recipe sometime, sounds amazing.
Get a "Lodge" brand cast iron skillet. I keep one permanently on my grill for steaks. (don't ever wash it. Scrub it with some kosher salt and warm water after you use it, then wipe it down with an oiled rag. Don't ever let soap touch it)
Preheat your grill, all 3 burners on high, for 15-20 minutes. Temp should get over 600 degrees. Open lid, place steak directly onto skillet. Shut lid, cook for 90 seconds on each side. Then put the steak on the upper rack for another 3-5 minutes with the lid closed, based on the thickness of your steak.
Remember, buy good quality beef. Don't season with anything other than a very slight brushing of peanut oil, LIBERAL amount of kosher salt, and cracked pepper.
And absolutely most importantly, LET THAT BAD BOY REST! Wrap it in foil and let it sit for 10 minutes. This applies to any meat, and is the #1 mistake people make when cooking meat. Cutting into a piece of meat before it is properly rested is a sin beyond measure.
---------- Post added April-23rd-2011 at 09:56 AM ----------
oh, here's the recipe for peruvian chicken. My favorite chicken recipe, period. Just oustanding.
http://bbq.about.com/od/chickenrecipes/r/bl70730a.htm
My only recommendation on this recipe is to buy a good quality chicken. Whole chickens are fairly inexpensive. Why not buy the high quality? I get the Amish grain fed, I think it costs $6/chicken instead of the perdue ( :pooh: ) which is $4. Why wouldn't you buy the better chicken? It really does make a lot of difference in the taste.
Fan since a Fetus
April-23rd-2011, 10:47 AM
Stay away from Master Forge...biggest piles of junk out there.
Capt Rich Fla
April-24th-2011, 05:38 AM
I have to use grills all the time on the boats & that little Weber grill is one bad *** grill. It has no cold spots on it anywhere. It gets quite windy on the docks and that little grill still holds her own. It's less than 200 too.
wysknz1
April-24th-2011, 08:18 PM
Don't get one with those coated racks. We used one twice and got rid of it. I like the bare iron grate where you cook the residue off not burn it on.
HOF44
April-26th-2011, 01:35 PM
Just cooked on my recently purchased Weber Spirit 210 with the cast iron grates. This is pretty much hands down the best grill I have used. I usually never pay over $150 for a grill but decided to give Weber a try. I cooked some chicken, hamburgers and hot dogs and had no flame ups or hot spots. It gets much hotter than the other grills I've used. Will it hold up as well as the Genesis??? Only time will tell, but it cooks great. Also Weber has a deal with Home Depot that gives all the Weber gas grills they sell the porcelain coated cast iron grates at no extra cost. Nice deal as those grates run $60+.
Homercles82
April-26th-2011, 01:53 PM
What is your budget?
I bought a Big Green Egg 5 years ago and haven't looked back. The only grill I have used besides this one is a Traeger wood pellet grill. I don't like cooking with gas at all. If you want a wood smoke taste without the hassel of a smoker or charcoal grill, look into pellet grills. Automatic ignition, automatic feed, the smoke setting can't be beat and the fuel is cheaper than gas.
Big Green Egg: http://www.biggreenegg.com/
Traeger: http://www.traegergrills.com/
Cassow
April-26th-2011, 02:51 PM
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I got this at sears a couple months ago for $400!
It's regruarly a $1700+ grill. It was a floor model that they marked down considerably because they thought the front handle on it was broken. All I had to do was pop a few caps off, tighten the screws, and it was good as new.
This thing is awesome. Has a huge sear burner with a cast iron grate, back burner, rotisserie, lights, the whole works. I can turn just 2 of the 3 burners on and it shoots up to 700+ degrees in minutes. The thing probably weighs every bit of 400lbs.
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