A team without a face

[Burgold]

I was thinking about this because of the multiple face threads and maybe some of the nickname threads. With the loss of CP and no qb, no dominant O line, etc. the offense really has no face, no identity at this point. Similarly, while we have some players on D, we really don't have a defensive identity or face. We're not known for anything.

The Redskins right now are a blank slate.

If anything, our only face is that of the coach, but even that is the face of nostalgia. When we think of Shanahan we know he is the head coach of the Redskins, but we remember him as a Bronco.

That said, I like the face that was emerging at the end of 2010. When our "stars" went down and the pups came in suddenly there was this young, hungry, blue colar team that scrapped. It wasn't the most talented, but it was resilient and tough. The face of the team wasn't it's qb or its 100 million dollar defensive lineman, but an undrafted 5'6 punt returner and a bunch of other no names. Right now, if we're much more about Lorenzo Alexander and Anthony Armstrong than we are about superstars.

And that's an interesting and possibly good place to be as we look for and form an identity.

What's the face of the Redskins? Right now, only the shadow knows.

[Redskin-All-In]

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[Burgold]

Nah, that's the face of the fans :)

[Redskin-All-In]

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[lavar1156]

If Landry can stay healthy...

[TheGreatBuzz]

I haven't made a cheap shot at the owner in a while so.....

Right now the face in Dan Snyder. Until that changes we are all screwed.

[blindlywewander]

This team is like that old show "the swan". We're undergoing massive changes. Right now, we're getting body work done. After next years draft, we'll have our face.

[kappaluvacee]

The team actually uses Orakpo for a lot of its marketing! I'm happy with a faceless team. I just want a winning team.

[thesubmittedone]

Interestingly, every Super Bowl we've won were with teams with no face. :)

Add to that the fact that two of those championships were won during seasons with abundant labor strife and history has an amazing way of repeating itself very consistently, and I think we're golden. :pfft:

[TheCool47]

London Fletcher should be the face of the Redskins right now. Seemingly great character guy (saying seemingly great cause I don't know him personally), great leader, and plays hard on the field.

[paloosa]

I agree that we don't have a face but we need a few superstars in the right places to be the face of the franchise lie a Tom Brady or Peyton Manning. We need consistency and players that will bring home championships. I think that Allen and Shanahan are on the right track but it takes time.

[Hitman21ST]

Interestingly, every Super Bowl we've won were with teams with no face. :)

Darrell Green? Art Monk? The Hogs?

[GhostofSparta]

Interestingly, every Super Bowl we've won were with teams with no face. :)

I think the Diesel might disagree with you.
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[McD5]

Fewer threads?

[OuterBanksTarHeel]

Darrell Green? Art Monk? The Hogs?

Green and Monk were never really "faces," as hard as that may be to believe today, looking back. The Skins were like the Pats w/out Tom Brady, and the '87 and '91 teams were indeed "faceless." The '91 team didn't even get that much respect until November. Art Monk was also injured during two of the SB runs and Gary Clark was the biggest threat at WR in '91 by far.

I would say that the "faces" of that era were: 1) Gibbs 2) Riggins (early 80's) and 2) Hogs (tie at 2).

[darrelgreenie]

What's the face of the Redskins? Right now, only the shadow knows.Mike Shanahan is the face of the Burgundy and Gold.

[kyousukeneko]

Rak is who i think of when i think of the face of the skins

[B55Green]

Art Monk was also injured during two of the SB runs.

Wasn't it only one (yes he was injured, but not enough to keep him out)? I remember him having that big 3rd down play in the Super Bowl against the Broncos, which has been said to be considered the spark for the offense that game / momentum changer. Then obviously he had numerous roles in the Buffalo one.

[HailGreen28]

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This guy's the face of our O for now. Till somebody steps up. Which isn't a bad thing. He's still respected as an OC.

[TheGreatBuzz]

PIC OF SHANNY JR.
This guy's the face of our O for now. Till somebody steps up. Which isn't a bad thing. He's still respected as an OC.

I hope this isn't the face. I am no where near sold on him yet. I admit that I was as excited as anyone when I heard he was coming in with dear ole dad. But seeing the way things went last year, I'm very nervous.

[Burgold]

I really don't think it is. Maybe we have a face internally to those who really watch, study, and love this team, but to the greater football world I don't think we have a face. We don't have an identity yet. Mike is possibly the closest, but I think while people may know he's the coach they don't think of him and the Redskins simultaneously.

[OuterBanksTarHeel]

Wasn't it only one (yes he was injured, but not enough to keep him out)? I remember him having that big 3rd down play in the Super Bowl against the Broncos, which has been said to be considered the spark for the offense that game / momentum changer. Then obviously he had numerous roles in the Buffalo one.

Yeah, but that was his only catch in the game.

BTW, I wasn't trying to downplay Monk or Green's overall importance to that era. It's just when I think of "face," there has to be some sort of public presence there, and Monk did not have a good relationship w/ the media (he hardly ever talked to them) and Green was sort of milquetoast. I probably should've mentioned this before anything else.

Again, none of this is bad, and I love both players, but neither guy really came off as "faces of the franchise."

[Califan007]

Billy Idol sings that song, right?...Man I love that song. :yes:

[skins island connection]

In the 80's, Gibbs was the face; the thing that many reporters focused on alot was how Gibbs took a bunch of no-direction players and showed them the way.
Yes, Riggins was the one to "step up" and let his performance do his talking, { not that he was at all shy in front of a camera}, and it took winning SB XVII to attract interest on the team.
87', well, IMO, the biggest face was the QB musical chair storyline, with Gibbs of course trying to find the best QB at the time. It worked.
When I hear the words Redskins or Washinton, the first thing to pop in my head is Gibbs, followed by Riggins, Green, and Monk; when you hear any of these names, whats the first thing to pop in your heads? Champions, leaders, class...

[Crazy Levi]

http://www.briancuban.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/Dansnyder.jpg

[pjfootballer]

I'm not concerned with who the "face" of the franchise is at this point. Frankly I don't care. When players emerge and the team gets better, that's when you know who will be the "face" of your franchise. But I still don't know why people really care at this point. Win first, worry about PR later.

[War Paint]

We need a legitimate QB that can play at a high level to have a true face of the team. Unfortunately, the current face of the franchise is probably Dan Snyder.

[#98QBKiller]

We're a young team that's building right now. We don't really have any superstars but for once that's a good thing IMO. We're quietly laying the foundation for a team that can be good consistently and it will take some time to blossom but once it does the face(s) of the team will emerge.

[Stew]

I think the face of the franchise is Fletcher. He is year in and year out one of the most productive players on either side of the ball, he is our clear cut team leader, he leads by example, and when the haynesworth situation first went down, Fletcher was one of the vocal teammates, making his opinion known. He is the face of our franchise.

[TheMagicalHindu]

I think the face of the franchise is Fletcher. He is year in and year out one of the most productive players on either side of the ball, he is our clear cut team leader, he leads by example, and when the haynesworth situation first went down, Fletcher was one of the vocal teammates, making his opinion known. He is the face of our franchise.

I definitely agree with this, LaRon as well, though his injury has hampered his status.

[Phixius]

The fact that the team doesn't have someone everyone can point out makes winning more enjoyable.

[RFK Lives]

Well, I think Donovan McNabb was the face of the franchise last year. That didn't work out so well. We know Fat Albert is the backside of the franchise. I guess I like it open or to be determined. We are still in for a bit of a haul to undo all the damage that has been done so we may just have to wait for somebody to emerge.

[Sweet Sassy Molassy]

The last time we had any real identity was when Sean Taylor was still on the team and Gibbs was still coaching. ST seemed to bring an aggressive, and intimidating presence that not only rubbed off on teammates but also made opponents nervous and Gibbs brought a gritty never say die attitude which when mixed with the aggression gave us the ability to beat any team at any time even when things didn't look good. We lost all of that unfortunately in '07, and I feel for 2 years we tried to cling to that identity, rather than find a new identity (probably because Zorn didn't really have one).

I think as far as identity/face of the team is London Fletcher, he seems to be the player that everyone feeds off of. Orakpo is coming into his own, but I think he needs to really become consistent before that can happen. Maybe with a healthy Kemo, the addition of Jenkins and whomever we add to the DL opening paths to the backfield, if he can really step it up another level and start to take over games he could easily be that guy. Laron is another one, I was hard on him before this year, this year he really made me a believer, if he could've just stayed healthy this year and continued to play at a high level he would have as good a shot as any, especially considering the hole ST left in the secondary with his departure has left fans hoping to see someone with the hard hitting playmaking mentality that ST brought.

[aussieskin]

how about the face on the helmet surely that is the face of the skins, and either Landry or Rak and good ol 47 would be the face of the skins anyway

[Warhead36]

Wait till we get Andrew Luck next year.

[Crazy Levi]

The fact that the team doesn't have someone everyone can point out makes winning more enjoyable.

Errr...whut?