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Larry
July-21st-2011, 08:08 PM
Two different friends on Facebook linked to this story, on two different web sites. (I've picked the one with text, as opposed to a video.)

And, in case I have to mention it, I didn't write the title.

Link (http://247wallst.com/2011/02/07/the-ten-states-running-out-of-smart-people/#ixzz1SlJFZ5rL).


There are several states in the U.S. that are losing the eduction race to most of the others. In the past decade, these states have declining math and reading scores, lower numbers of people with bachelor’s degrees, and comparatively fewer residents who hold white collar jobs. Colorado, Michigan, and eight others are losing this competition to states who have residents that are better educated and who have done a better job obtaining higher quality jobs. These failing states have lost ground compared to the national average.

The recent State of the Union address, and almost any sweeping political speech or document that writes or speaks about unemployment and future competition for jobs, impresses the point that a well educated workforce–a smart workforce–has comparative advantages. Regions with better-educated people tend to find it easier to draw and retain businesses. These regions are also likely to be more competitive in contrast to nations around the world like China, which has posted sharp increases in the level of educational attainment among its citizens.

Haven't read through their whole list, myself. (It's a three-page article, and I've only read page 1, which only has #10 and #9.)

But, figured people would enjoy kicking it around, anyway.

KAOSkins
July-21st-2011, 08:30 PM
The only thing saving New Mexico is the national labs. Knowing how heavily they're involved in defense work I expect they're fairly safe. Kind of surprised to see Utah on there, though I'm not sure why. It always looks so nice and clean when I'm there.

DCSaints_fan
July-21st-2011, 08:37 PM
They must have made a mistake somewhere, why did they list Colorado as #1, when it has the following stats:

> Bachelor’s Degree or Higher: 35.9% (2nd)
> Population With White Collar Careers: 15.1% (8th)
> NAEP Math: 15th
> NAEP Reading: 24th

Well I read their blurb, and apparently the main reason is the drop in reading scores (used to be 11th, now 24th), the drop in percentage with a HS diploma(8th to 15th), and the decrease in percentage of population with a "white collar" job.

twa
July-21st-2011, 08:40 PM
#9 Woot Woot

High school level represent:pimp:...I be making the money w/o your damned piece of paper :silly:

Stadium-Armory
July-21st-2011, 08:45 PM
They must have made a mistake somewhere, why did they list Colorado as #1, when it has the following stats:

> Bachelor’s Degree or Higher: 35.9% (2nd)
> Population With White Collar Careers: 15.1% (8th)
> NAEP Math: 15th
> NAEP Reading: 24th

Well I read their blurb, and apparently the main reason is the drop in reading scores (used to be 11th, now 24th), the drop in percentage with a HS diploma(8th to 15th), and the decrease in percentage of population with a "white collar" job.

I've read it 5 times over now and can't make heads or tails of it.

twa
July-21st-2011, 08:55 PM
I've read it 5 times over now and can't make heads or tails of it.

They have smart people,but are not replacing them

Stadium-Armory
July-21st-2011, 09:00 PM
They have smart people,but are not replacing them

I considered that, but when I saw that Colorado was ranked 2nd in bachelor degrees per capita, and that the population has increased by 12%, I thought otherwise. Maybe I need to stare at it some more.

Henry
July-21st-2011, 09:15 PM
I considered that, but when I saw that Colorado was ranked 2nd in bachelor degrees per capita, and that the population has increased by 12%, I thought otherwise. Maybe I need to stare at it some more.

Of course you don't get it. You're from Colorado. :pfft:

mjah
July-21st-2011, 10:15 PM
Surprised to see Colorado on there. Ambivalent about Texas, although I guess I shouldn't be. The others don't seem too surprising individually, although I would have predicted a state like LA or MS over UT. Shrug.

Not one of them is within two states of the east coast.

Mickalino
July-21st-2011, 10:22 PM
They must have made a mistake somewhere, why did they list Colorado as #1, when it has the following stats:


Because the people who did the math on those stats, came from Michigan :)

mboyd784
July-22nd-2011, 12:27 AM
I, too, wish to be educated beyond my intellect...and my pay scale.

mjah
July-22nd-2011, 12:42 AM
I, too, wish to be educated beyond my intellect...and my pay scale.
Maybe you already are. How would you know?

Major Harris
July-22nd-2011, 02:49 PM
i was thinking "glad i didn't see WV on that list."

then i thought: to lose them, you have to have them first. :doh:

Predicto
July-22nd-2011, 02:57 PM
This article sucked. It was poorly reasoned and even more poorly written.

sideshow24
July-22nd-2011, 03:04 PM
I do not think one of the smart people wrote that article.

twa
July-22nd-2011, 03:14 PM
This article sucked. It was poorly reasoned and even more poorly written.

But it draws views....as usual