I did not know a lot about John Beck until I saw this.

[gobigred]

Hey I wanted to share this you tube video about John Beck coming out of college. I getting a little excited seeing this. We may have lucked up on this one. The Mcnabb thing makes a little more since now. Shanahan has seen something he believes in. If this was already posted disregard.
http://youtu.be/MflFK7Q0o9E

[SuperSkin6]

I've always had what I would call reasonable hope that he's going to be good. I feel as if he can at least manage the game. I don't think he'll be great, ever really. But I trust him enough to manage the game and not be Ryan Leaf.

[sideshow24]

I'm optimistic that he'll play well. Though nothing about the McNabb ordeal made sense to me.

[onedrop]

i really want this guy to succeed and reach that out of nowhere greatness someone brought up in another thread.

[Mad Mike]

nothing about the McNabb ordeal made sense to me.

He sucked and he didn't want to do what the coaches wanted him to do to make himself better. What else is there to know?

[sugarbear326]

WOW, WOW, WOW, that's all I can say, If JB can play up to the level all the so called analyst give him credit for, I will let Shanny coach without any criticism from me. I was so hard on this guy for the way he handled both Donovan and Albert. Beck can be the guy who sparks this team above mediocrity...

[Chachie]

If he were special we'd already know it... and he'd still be a Dolphin. I'll be happy to be wrong about this, but he's not special.

[jaxskins]

Uhh he got compared to Brady Quinn in this video

[HogHeaven84]

Jamarcus Russell's highlights from college looked great too. Though I will say this, John Beck is at the very least, coachable. I think he's going to surprise a lot of people, since most don't think he can play at all. I don't know if he's a starting QB...but he's not going to be horrible.

[Boston Skins]

haha I liked how Sean Salisbury said that Beck was just as good as Brady Quinn.

[gobigred]

If he were special we'd already know it... and he'd still be a Dolphin. I'll be happy to be wrong about this, but he's not special.


Hey you know what if his story was differnet I would agree with you, I just want you to think about the situations he came in, he was drafted by the dolphins. When coahes were really up against the wall to win and he never had a chance to grow into a system. Then he went to Baltimore and the qb position was locked down but as Beck put it on redskins.com He had a chance to grow by playing against Ravens #1 defense and he came here without that same pressure and has had a chance to develop. I like this guy because he has a I am the guy attitude and we have not had that kind of guy around here in a while. I am not trying to change your mind. I just hope you get a little excited about the qb position. I expect us all to be surprised when it is alll said and done.

---------- Post added August-2nd-2011 at 03:59 PM ----------


Uhh he got compared to Brady Quinn in this video

Hey the Jury still out on Quinn. He was put in a bad situation but the Broncos are not talking about trading him are they

[Mickalino]

If he were special we'd already know it... and he'd still be a Dolphin.

If Terrell Davis was so special, then why was he drafted in the 7th round, instead of the 1st ?

Talent is in the eye of the beholder.

[sideshow24]

He sucked and he didn't want to do what the coaches wanted him to do to make himself better. What else is there to know?

Why did we trade draft pics for him in the first place? That's what I've been wanting to know from the beginning.

[superozman]

Watch the youtube highlights of him as a dolphin. Checkdown, Bubble Screen, Check down, slant, etc. Can't live completely off of that. Torain/Royster/Helu/Hightower have to provide an unbelievebly explosive running game to help Beck look studly in the NFL.

4 starts, 5 Games played - 1 touchdown. Never more than 177 yards in a game. He needs to show me something huge!!!!

[JaxJoe]

If he were special we'd already know it... and he'd still be a Dolphin. I'll be happy to be wrong about this, but he's not special.

If you were universally correct, Brett Favre would have never been traded from Atlanta to Green Bay. Drew Brees would have never been traded from San Diego to New Orleans. I can go one and on. The truth is, it's very very rare that QBs are 1) immediately successful in the NFL and 2) are only successful in the proper system, and 3) Are only successful when all the other pieces fall into place, like a great OL, good defense, etc..

[Boston Skins]

Why did we trade draft pics for him in the first place? That's what I've been wanting to know from the beginning.

Why did we trade picks for Jason Taylor? You gotta let this go man, it'll do wonders for your psyche. It didn't work out. We move on.

[Maximus71]

Romo wasnt that special either until given a chance to play a bit... Lets give the kid a try, I am not getting my hopes up but you never know how it all will play out. We ll either suck and go 2-14 and get our QB in the draft or this kid could suprise all of us.

[superozman]

If you were universally correct, Brett Favre would have never been traded from Atlanta to Green Bay. Drew Brees would have never been traded from San Diego to New Orleans. I can go one and on. The truth is, it's very very rare that QBs are 1) immediately successful in the NFL and 2) are only successful in the proper system, and 3) Are only successful when all the other pieces fall into place, like a great OL, good defense, etc..

Not necessarily...i would keep going on and on if I were you. Jerry Glanville the coach for ATL did not want Brett Favre, while the Packers GM was the Jets GM the year before (when ATL drafted him) and he coveted Favre.

Brees was not traded, he was a Free Agent and San Diego had Rivers...

So keep trying.

[Champskins]

that video was four years ago. Not taking anything away from the guy... but highlights make a guy look like a king on youtube. There's "shaking some rust off" and then theres just replacing the element because of too much rust. Hope it turns out well, glad Rex is back

[Skadden]

Did you see the chiron for the Redskins draft choices that year? They had Landry going fifth overall and the next selection they had for the Redskins was in the fifth round. :ols:

[Rudechain]

Not necessarily...i would keep going on and on if I were you. Jerry Glanville the coach for ATL did not want Brett Favre, while the Packers GM was the Jets GM the year before (when ATL drafted him) and he coveted Favre.

Brees was not traded, he was a Free Agent and San Diego had Rivers...

So keep trying.

Ok, how about Steve Young.

You remember the Bucs traded him to San Fran.

There are examples of quarterbacks being released or traded when new regimes come or they draft a replacement. Heck Tampa thought Young was a bust and got a 2nd and a 4th from Frisco. Then there's the story of Johnny Unitas, who the head coach felt was not smart enough to be a quarterback in the NFL. Then there's examples like Warren Moon whom nobody drafted and he went to the CFL.

If the coaching staff likes Beck, I see no problem with him. He's on a very inexpensive contract and can be cut with minimal cap ramifications.

[sideshow24]

Why did we trade picks for Jason Taylor? You gotta let this go man, it'll do wonders for your psyche. It didn't work out. We move on.

He asked, I answered.

[21MadFan]

Makes me sick when I watch that highlight and I see we had a 1st round pick then our next pick was not until the 5th round. Screw you Vinny!!!

[Mickalino]

Ok, how about Steve Young.

You remember the Bucs traded him to San Fran.

Or Trent Dilfer - who the Bucs also got rid of, and went on to win a Super Bowl.

And Beck resembles Dilfer more than any of the other QB's mentioned.

[Rudechain]

Or Trent Dilfer - who the Bucs also got rid of, and went on to win a Super Bowl.

And Beck resembles Dilfer more than any of the other QB's mentioned.

That's a good comparison. He was being compared to Brees on his draft day.

[HogHeaven84]

I know I posted this before....also what about Trent Green, Rich Gannon, & especially Brad Johnson (he did nothing until he came here. and threw for over 4,000 yards, then went to his 3rd nfl team and won a superbowl) Aside from all that John Beck is changing his number to 12(subsequently Kelly is going to 14). So there's only 1 question to be answered.... Who's buying a Beck jersey this year? HA

[TomE]

Jerry Glanville the coach for ATL did not want Brett Favre, while the Packers GM was the Jets GM the year before (when ATL drafted him) and he coveted Favre..

I suppose then that we're in good shape because someone with authority on this team had graded Beck pretty high coming out of college.


“Let me say, when John Beck did come out [of college], I had him rated as the top quarterback coming out that year, and I didn’t even think it was close,” said Shanahan, who traded with Baltimore last August to get Beck. “I had a lot of confidence in John Beck when he came out in 2007. I evaluate the quarterbacks every year, and I do have confidence in John Beck. He was by far my No. 1 guy. I think the world of him.”
wapo link (http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/football-insider/post/shanahan-high-on-john-beck/2011/04/30/AFLX5rSF_blog.html)

[Chachie]

If you were universally correct, Brett Favre would have never been traded from Atlanta to Green Bay. Drew Brees would have never been traded from San Diego to New Orleans. I can go one and on. The truth is, it's very very rare that QBs are 1) immediately successful in the NFL and 2) are only successful in the proper system, and 3) Are only successful when all the other pieces fall into place, like a great OL, good defense, etc..



You make excellent points... and I'm still correct.

[Chachie]

Hey you know what if his story was differnet I would agree with you, I just want you to think about the situations he came in, he was drafted by the dolphins. When coahes were really up against the wall to win and he never had a chance to grow into a system. Then he went to Baltimore and the qb position was locked down but as Beck put it on redskins.com He had a chance to grow by playing against Ravens #1 defense and he came here without that same pressure and has had a chance to develop. I like this guy because he has a I am the guy attitude and we have not had that kind of guy around here in a while. I am not trying to change your mind. I just hope you get a little excited about the qb position. I expect us all to be surprised when it is alll said and done.



I am a Redskin fan and will be rooting hard for the man. I just think Rex is better and that's who will be under center come week 1. Like I said before, nobody will be happier to be wrong than me. I just don't see it.

[addicted]

The more John Becks thrown at the fans because of what he did in 2007
The more I want to vomit
I don't know Beck personally but this crap about "Support your local bust 2nd rounder" really is getting old
I don't know Beck personally but this crap about "Beck never got a chance" really is getting old
I know why it keeps being said...those in denial about the coach we have and the QB situation on the team need to feel good again
So truth be damned...when the truth is this is the worst looking group of QB's since Spurrier was here with Danny Wuerffull

Part of me can not wait until the first preseason game when those pushing this agenda stop dead in the tracks with the Beck maddness
"Shannahan is a great talent evaluator of QB's"
Thats not a true statement to me and the whole "reputation" about QB's isn't much at all to lose

Then the fan in me takes over and I think its all going to be fine and work out great....
I need therapy

[iMeast]

Watch the youtube highlights of him as a dolphin. Checkdown, Bubble Screen, Check down, slant, etc. Can't live completely off of that. Torain/Royster/Helu/Hightower have to provide an unbelievebly explosive running game to help Beck look studly in the NFL.

4 starts, 5 Games played - 1 touchdown. Never more than 177 yards in a game. He needs to show me something huge!!!!

Yeah those stats aren't very pretty, but you have to remember he was playing for the 1-15 Cam Cameron Miami Dolphins team. They were one of the worst teams in rescent football history. Heck if it wasn't for the Detroit Lions efforts--or lack there of--a few years ago they would be the worst. John Beck has done everything he could possibly do to give himself and the Washington Redskins the best shot to succeed with him this year. The guy in the very least has heart, determination and a love for the game. We get in an uproar about players like Albert Haynesworht who get paid and don't care one way or ther other. Beck isn't getting "big football dollars" but he is putting in more effort than Haynesworth and the majority of Danny-era free agents ever did in one offseason.

HTTR

[Mickalino]

How about that loser, Kurt Warner ?

Why did anyone give that worthless grocery bagger a 2nd look ?

Don't know why anyone believed the hype, and promoted him from Bag Boy.

They should have left him there, just like we should have left Beck out to sea.

[azbear]

How about that loser, Kurt Warner ?

Why did anyone give that worthless grocery bagger a 2nd look ?

Don't know why anyone believed the hype, and promoted him from Bag Boy.

They should have left him there, just like we should have left Beck out to sea.

Question for everyone here..I absolutely agree its POSSIBLE that Beck could be one of those rare late bloomers. Every argument that people have for supporting Beck, couldn't the same be said for Grossman? There are a handful of late 20's, early 30's qb's who don't hit their stride until they get on the right team/right system.

One more thing to keep in consideration..when is the last time my bears have ever developed a QB properly? Orton developed after he left the Bears, Rex (statistically) had his best QBR with the Redskins (small sample size), and Cutler (atleast statistically) has tremendously regressed since he has come to Chicago.

[s0crates]

Mick, you are funny. ^^^

This video has been posted before, but I was happy to watch it again. What we see in Beck's BYU highlights is probably what Shanny is seeing, a QB who has good anticipation and timing, good mobility, and puts the ball in the right spot. We do not have much to go on with Beck, but judging by what little we do have, he looks like he might be a good fit for our offense.

I am cautiously optimistic about Beck.

[I_Bleed_B&G]

I had to laugh at the video. Not at Beck but at the 4:35 mark, the ESPN ticker shows the Redskins drafting Laron Landry in the 1st round and then our next pick wasn't until the 5th. LOL

[martin49]

Both Rex & Beck can be effective QB's. IF we have a much improved line and a solid running attack. Period.

---------- Post added August-2nd-2011 at 05:36 PM ----------

Have to agree, Neither one of these guys is a super QB, so if the line stinks and the run game stinks, it will be a longer year than last year. Rex probably has a better shot at winning afew games though.

[Mickalino]

I had to laugh at the video. Not at Beck but at the 4:35 mark, the ESPN ticker shows the Redskins drafting Laron Landry in the 1st round and then our next pick wasn't until the 5th. LOL

Which is actually a relevant, subtle point to make in this discussion - a reason why we should trust Shanahan's decision on Beck. Look at the difference in the way we approached that draft, compared to this year's draft.

[monkeezgob]

People are hoping for waayyy too much out of this man based on a bunch of Youtube clips from his college days.

Plenty of QBs look great in college and just can't make that step up to the pros. The examples are obvious, so I'm not going to list them. i wouldn't rely on any of these clips to tell you what to expect from beck IF he becomes our starter.

If he starts then I'd hope for nothing more than a competent game manager, but however badly Rex may stink it up, I still don't see him losing the job to the likes of Beck.

[Laxpunk2006]

If he were special we'd already know it... and he'd still be a Dolphin. I'll be happy to be wrong about this, but he's not special.

That must be why Steve Young won all those Super Bowls in Tampa.

Chances are, Beck isn't going to be a great QB. Still, writing him off for not succeeding on a 1-15 team his rookie season followed by a regime change isn't fair. We'll know soon enough whether he can ball. Untill then it's all speculation.

[GO HAMSKINS]

HA! Skins fans wonder why other fans of football across the world don't think Skins fans are knowledgeable about the game.SMH Who would have ever guessed Skins would dump Dmac(traded high draft picks) to name Beck their starter and the fans would be happy about it. We are really going to look like the dumbest fans in America after this season when Dmac, and Big Al plays wel this seasonl.LOL Naive Skins fans agree with every coach Shanny move just like Sheeple smh. By mid season the same fans will be calling for Shanny head gosh you gotta love Washington!

[skinsince72]

From what i'm reading on ESPN by Graziano on how Beck is looking, i'm not overy optimistic. http://espn.go.com/blog/nfceast

Of course, it's still early but if there is a quarterback competition, Grossman wins the job hands down.

[Hooper]

Shanahan on NFL Network talking about starting QB, "I've never mentioned a starter. I've never even insinuated a starter".

The Beck era was fun while it lasted.

[GboroGator]

Beck has a noodle arm. Welcome back to Danny Woeful part deux.

[Rudechain]

HA! Skins fans wonder why other fans of football across the world don't think Skins fans are knowledgeable about the game.SMH Who would have ever guessed Skins would dump Dmac(traded high draft picks) to name Beck their starter and the fans would be happy about it. We are really going to look like the dumbest fans in America after this season when Dmac, and Big Al plays wel this seasonl.LOL Naive Skins fans agree with every coach Shanny move just like Sheeple smh. By mid season the same fans will be calling for Shanny head gosh you gotta love Washington!

I would say this is a witty post, but that would only be half right.

[Spearfeather]

If Terrell Davis was so special, then why was he drafted in the 7th round, instead of the 1st ?

Talent is in the eye of the beholder.

Sixth round, I think.....but I agree.

[Blue Collar Skins]

I have questions about his decision making....A Mullet really? :silly:

[onedrop]

HA! Skins fans wonder why other fans of football across the world don't think Skins fans are knowledgeable about the game.SMH Who would have ever guessed Skins would dump Dmac(traded high draft picks) to name Beck their starter and the fans would be happy about it. We are really going to look like the dumbest fans in America after this season when Dmac, and Big Al plays wel this seasonl.LOL Naive Skins fans agree with every coach Shanny move just like Sheeple smh. By mid season the same fans will be calling for Shanny head gosh you gotta love Washington!

if mcnugget couldnt muster the heart to play lights out after being traded within the division last year i highly doubt his resurgence lasts more than a third of the season. and i personally dont care what fat al does or does not do. he is the ultimate example of addition by subtraction.

[azbear]

Shanahan on NFL Network talking about starting QB, "I've never mentioned a starter. I've never even insinuated a starter".

The Beck era was fun while it lasted.

Lol. Has anyone heard how much $$ they signed Rex for?

[monkeezgob]

Lol. Has anyone heard how much $$ they signed Rex for?

I'd suspect it was more than they were hoping for, although I wouldn't expect the deal to be an expensive one. Essentially we've got a couple of back-ups of varying quality and experience.

[WyomingRedskin]

Jamarcus Russell's highlights from college looked great too. Though I will say this, John Beck is at the very least, coachable. I think he's going to surprise a lot of people, since most don't think he can play at all. I don't know if he's a starting QB...but he's not going to be horrible.

Not a fair comparison. Jamarcus got his paycheck then quit on football. He was a lazy bum.

---------- Post added August-2nd-2011 at 06:36 PM ----------

:gang:
Watch the youtube highlights of him as a dolphin. Checkdown, Bubble Screen, Check down, slant, etc. Can't live completely off of that. Torain/Royster/Helu/Hightower have to provide an unbelievebly explosive running game to help Beck look studly in the NFL.

4 starts, 5 Games played - 1 touchdown. Never more than 177 yards in a game. He needs to show me something huge!!!!

Judging him on his rookie year on a really bad team makes perfect sense to me.

---------- Post added August-2nd-2011 at 06:40 PM ----------


Beck has a noodle arm. Welcome back to Danny Woeful part deux.

You obviously haven't seen those college highlights. He actually has a pretty live arm.

[Brotherz]

People are hoping for waayyy too much out of this man based on a bunch of Youtube clips from his college days.

Plenty of QBs look great in college and just can't make that step up to the pros. The examples are obvious, so I'm not going to list them. i wouldn't rely on any of these clips to tell you what to expect from beck IF he becomes our starter.

If he starts then I'd hope for nothing more than a competent game manager, but however badly Rex may stink it up, I still don't see him losing the job to the likes of Beck.

Its not exactly JUST youtube clips. Its also that a guy who has coached John Elway to two superbowl wins back to back is willing to trade for him, extend him, pass on Gabbert and every other QB prospect in the draft and go to war with the kid with his job, ego and reputation on the line. I love how Shannahan has gone from hall of fame coach to bumbling moron in this forum in a matter of like 16 months. Its absurd. Its the same coach who last time he went 6-10 went 11-5 the following year and a wildcard birth. The lowest the guy's teams have EVER ranked in rushing prior to joining the skins is 12th and the running backs could have been ANYONE. (Reuben Drohns anyone?) Multiple times following statistically poor years in denver he repeatedly rebounded the next year. Its not a youtube video. Its the fact that the guy has an ego and a plan. He has a pedigree and scary football knowledge and HE chose John Beck. That has to be worth something.

[darrelgreenie]

Shanahan on NFL Network talking about starting QB, "I've never mentioned a starter. I've never even insinuated a starter".

The Beck era was fun while it lasted.

What question did Breer ask him to prompt this response?
answer:[..Is John Beck still going to be the starter going forward?]

Mike/Kyle/Beck have never said anything more then there will be an open competition.
The local media created the whole 'Beck proclaims himself the starter' riff that the media at large picked up on, you know the viral cycle of modern sports media.

Here's the whole vid: no commentary no spin:

http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-training-camps/09000d5d8212eb40/QB-competition-on-capitol-hill

---------- Post added August-2nd-2011 at 09:41 PM ----------


“I think first of all John throws the ball very well,” Theismann told Dave Ross. “He has a quick release. Gets the ball down the field. Doesn’t have an overpowering arm, but good enough to get it as far as you’re gonna need it to be able to play at this level. The whole thing with John’s just gonna be experience. How experienced is he gonna be as time goes on?...But I like what John’s done. Mike Shanahan sure likes him.”
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/dc-sports-bog/post/theismann-reviews-john-becks-early-practices/2011/08/02/gIQAYXAipI_blog.html?wprss=dc-sports-bog

http://www.myfoxdc.com/dpp/sports/red_zone/joe-theismann-takes-in-redskins-training-camp-080111

[SD Skins fan]

If Beck was going to be the starter for any other team than the Redskins, the media would be all behind him and glowing on his abilities and potential. There seems to be a mandate that the media hate on any move made by the Redskins. Some of the same media dolts that loved Beck coming out of college are now saying the Skins have the worst QB situation in the NFL. I'll take our QB's over Cleveland's, Seattle's, Carolina's, Cincinnati's, Buffalo's, Oakland's, Miami's and San Fran's. I know that's not saying much, but we're definitely not the worst.

[MdMack21]

Thanks for this thread. I enjoyed the video a lot. Im gonna support Beck until he gives me reason not to.

---------- Post added August-2nd-2011 at 10:50 PM ----------


If Beck was going to be the starter for any other team than the Redskins, the media would be all behind him and glowing on his abilities and potential. There seems to be a mandate that the media hate on any move made by the Redskins. Some of the same media dolts that loved Beck coming out of college are now saying the Skins have the worst QB situation in the NFL. I'll take our QB's over Cleveland's, Seattle's, Carolina's, Cincinnati's, Buffalo's, Oakland's, Miami's and San Fran's. I know that's not saying much, but we're definitely not the worst.


I agree with this...

[monkeezgob]

Its not exactly JUST youtube clips. Its also that a guy who has coached John Elway to two superbowl wins back to back is willing to trade for him, extend him, pass on Gabbert and every other QB prospect in the draft and go to war with the kid with his job, ego and reputation on the line. I love how Shannahan has gone from hall of fame coach to bumbling moron in this forum in a matter of like 16 months. Its absurd. Its the same coach who last time he went 6-10 went 11-5 the following year and a wildcard birth. The lowest the guy's teams have EVER ranked in rushing prior to joining the skins is 12th and the running backs could have been ANYONE. (Reuben Drohns anyone?) Multiple times following statistically poor years in denver he repeatedly rebounded the next year. Its not a youtube video. Its the fact that the guy has an ego and a plan. He has a pedigree and scary football knowledge and HE chose John Beck. That has to be worth something.

All Beck is right now is an unknown quantity, approaching 30 and with a less than pedestrian pro career behind him. Personally, I'd hesitate to build him up in to anything more than that, or expect any miraculous transformation to take place this season.

[Mickalino]

If Beck was going to be the starter for any other team than the Redskins, the media would be all behind him and glowing on his abilities and potential. There seems to be a mandate that the media hate on any move made by the Redskins. Some of the same media dolts that loved Beck coming out of college are now saying the Skins have the worst QB situation in the NFL. I'll take our QB's over Cleveland's, Seattle's, Carolina's, Cincinnati's, Buffalo's, Oakland's, Miami's and San Fran's. I know that's not saying much, but we're definitely not the worst.

I agree and I'll add to that list - Chicago, Kansas City, and OF COURSE - MINNESOTA :D

[Spunkush]

my favorite part of this video is that it showed the redskins at the bottom: 1st Rd LaRon Landry, next selection 5th Rd

[Boston Skins]

my favorite part of this video is that it showed the redskins at the bottom: 1st Rd LaRon Landry, next selection 5th Rd

My mouth just dropped when I saw that. SO glad those days are behind us!

[Mickalino]

Shanahan on NFL Network talking about starting QB, "I've never mentioned a starter. I've never even insinuated a starter".

The Beck era was fun while it lasted.

Don't know how that statement brings you to the conclusion that "Beck has ZERO chance at starting".

[McD5]

I agree and I'll add to that list - Chicago, Kansas City, and OF COURSE - MINNESOTA :D

And you're high.

[hoosandskinsMUSTwin]

A lot of scouts really like Beck out of college. No question about it. And it must be considered that he was thrust into starting as a rookie for one of the worst teams of the decade. He has some skills. Accurate short to intermediate passing, sneaky athleticism, good character. But at this point in his career, is he playing with confidence? Sure doesn't seem that way according to people observing practice.

[veteranskinsfan]

Thanks for posting the utube video on Beck's draft day with ESPN. I really think Beck will need good protection from the offensive line. If Beck has
to run for his life on most passing plays then it will be hard for him to be successful. I still remember JC running around for his life. He could throw
the long ball but he could rarely hit the receiver in stride. But also JC was a terrible short passer. He had no touch on his short passes. He would
throw it on a line so super fast that the receivers often dropped the passes. Beck could be much better rolling out than JC and his short passes
may be more effective. If defenses find out he is having trouble with the long passes then they will have their defensive backs play closer to the line
of scrimmage. I think Beck could be in for a rough ride unless his teammates really contribute on offense and help him out. There is no Clinton Portis
there to help block for him too. I liked what Jaws said about Beck. I think Steve Young was biased because he played at BYU.

[Hitman21ST]

I have questions about his decision making....A Mullet really? :silly:

Hey, the two years I had a mullet my high school team won our state championship...

[Skins4life88]

I been looking over last years pre-season games and the guy is reallly not that bad. I'm not saying he is what we need but I do think he can manage the games. I notice that he gets the ball out of his hands really fast but his long throws are suspect. I say lets see what he do in this years pre-season. He has been out there with Drew in the offseason, lets see if he pick up anything that will help us this year. We need a lot of help this year in the NFC East.

[Blue Collar Skins]

Hey, the two years I had a mullet my high school team won our state championship... I think the other teams felt bad for you. :silly:

[benskins26]

Did anyone see the ticker at the bottom?

Redskins: RND 1 Pick 6 laron Landry
Next pick: RND 5 Pick 153

Smh, thank goodness those days are over

[Brotherz]

All Beck is right now is an unknown quantity, approaching 30 and with a less than pedestrian pro career behind him. Personally, I'd hesitate to build him up in to anything more than that, or expect any miraculous transformation to take place this season.

He's not "unknown" to Shanahan. He brought him here. He scouted him in the draft while in Denver. He resigned him. He is having him compete for the starting job with his rep on the line. I get he is unknown to you. Shanny must see something we don't.

[leesburgvaskinsfan]

I'm looking forward to the QB competition this year. Who knows, it might be all we have to look forward to. Seriously though, based on what I saw in the youtube highlights (granted they were college and years ago), I like what I saw about his field vision and being able to anticipate throws. I was a JC guy but as strong and athletic as he is, he couldn't see the field or make the touch throws very well. If Beck can get comfortable when the bullets are flying, it could be fun to watch our 'Skins again (like the good ol' days).

Hail!

[Hitman21ST]

I think the other teams felt bad for you. :silly:

They couldn't handle the awesomeness ;)

[OuterBanksTarHeel]

How about that loser, Kurt Warner ?

Why did anyone give that worthless grocery bagger a 2nd look ?

Don't know why anyone believed the hype, and promoted him from Bag Boy.

They should have left him there, just like we should have left Beck out to sea.

What about the guy who works at my local hardware store? He can play some QB. Why haven't the Redskins given him a shot?

He could be the next Kurt Warner.

Personally, I think the Redskins should give everyone who has ever played QB a shot, because, well,"you never know, they could be the next Kurt Warner."

When your main argument is that he "could be good, you never know," or that MS once pursued Tony Romo too, and never anything that actually references his actual skills, that says a lot, a helluva whole lot.

[allannis]

Romo wasnt that special either until given a chance to play a bit... Lets give the kid a try, I am not getting my hopes up but you never know how it all will play out. We ll either suck and go 2-14 and get our QB in the draft or this kid could suprise all of us.
Not to mention Tom Brady

[Mickalino]

What about the guy who works at my local hardware store? He can play some QB. Why haven't the Redskins given him a shot?

He could be the next Kurt Warner.

Personally, I think the Redskins should give everyone who has ever played QB a shot, because, well,"you never know, they could be the next Kurt Warner."

When your main argument is that he "could be good, you never know," or that MS once pursued Tony Romo too, and never anything that actually references his actual skills, that says a lot, a helluva whole lot.

And your argument AGAINST him being good is far more shallow than the arguments FOR him being good.

[monkeezgob]

The case of Warner is an interesting comparison, but Warner had already shown some glimpse of what he was capable of in Arena Football and NFL Europe. Ok, it's not the NFL I know, but there was evidence of recent form and ability in a competitive environment there. There's no similar evidence of form or ability with Beck. Like I've always said, all he is right now is an unknown quantity. College clips from way back when tell us nothing about him now in the NFL after a less than mediocre career.

Now, I'm not saying Beck won't be the next Kurt Warner, but I think we'd be wise to temper our expectations and not expect him to be. Lightning rarely strikes twice. If he wins the starting job (which I doubt) and plays like Warner, then great, huge surprise and a fantastic feather in Shanny's cap and we can build around him. If he stinks, well, no big surprise there, he's been pedestrian for his entire pro career, what did we expect? QB was clearly always going to be a weakness this year. No-one is screaming for his head on a plate or for another coaching change. Who knows, if he wins the job, he may just be a mediocre stop-gap, not great, perhaps not even good, but not terrible either.

Until we know the outcome of the QB competition and who will be starting, and see how they (and the team) perform, then I think we'd do well to temper our expectations. Yes, support the guy if he wins the job, but don't expect him to be another Kurt Warner.

[Philip Pease]

Thanks for posting the clip. Listening to several fans here at Extreme Skins I did not have much faith that he might be really good. After seeing that clip I say he just might be a good QB. I'm hopeful that he will make a lot more good plays than bad ones and we will be winners.

I think that too many fans put too much emphasis on the QB position. I think with a good OL together with some talented receivers any good QB can result in a winning team.

[TheShredder]

If he were special we'd already know it... and he'd still be a Dolphin. I'll be happy to be wrong about this, but he's not special.

First of all, he really has not been given the opportunity that he has now. He was never in a position to compete for a starting job. What that means is that he doesn't get reps with the first string WR's and TE's. Understand?

So, his drafting coach gets fired by the Tuna when he got to Miami. He is the third stringer and never gets any reps until week 9 and the Dolphins are already 0-8. Finally get's some reps and starts the last 5 games in a 1-15 season where the Dolphins were terrible. Beck's time in Miami is not comparing apples to apples with any scenario. Cam Cameron got fired and Beck went back to 3rd string backup for a year and then was traded back to Cam Cameron as the Offensive Coordinator for the Ravens. There he was relegated to the backup role and didn't play. Last year he was the #3 guy again.

How can anyone say that he's played like crap? He hasn't been given a fair chance. Rex got a fair shot and that's all they both want. No real reason to get sky high about Rex. He's going to throw a TD then an INT at a 1:1 ratio. You have to give Beck a shot.

He can make the short game work pretty well. If he get's some touch on the ball and can create a deep threat, then the skies the limit. Give the kid a shot already!