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GibbsFactor
August-3rd-2011, 12:40 PM
I thought this is a pretty well laid out writeup of what ShanAllen may be doing and help some fans that can't see this Suck For Luck stratetgy bare fruit...



Washington Redskins "Master Plan"




Two teams appear to be heading in opposite directions, long-term, based on today's personnel activity. One team is taking a smart, meticulous approach going back to the NFL Draft -- the Washington Redskins. Another team is making some of the most befuddling personnel decisions and draft picks for going on 2 years now -- the Pete Carroll era Seattle Seahawks.

Washington Redskins "Master Plan"

What I think the Redskins are doing, is "tanking" the 2011 season and setting up their business plan for 2012 and beyond. Even if they are not tanking 2011, their recent signings of veteran WRs is a potentially brilliant plan to help develop the great haul of rookie WRs they just drafted in April (Leonard Hankerson, Aldrick Robinson, and Niles Paul). We have Hankerson as the #1 rated WR in this 2011 WR class, and Robinson is among our top rated among the smaller/possession WRs.

The signings of Santana Moss, Donte Stallworth, Brandon Stokely and the trade for Jabar Gaffney gives Washington a very experienced/talented WR group for about a year...enough time for Hankerson and Robinson to emerge in 2012. We all applaud (for example) the Tennessee Titans or Minnesota Vikings for bringing in a stop-gap QB to develop their rookie QBs...so why do we not think that would be a brilliant thing to do with incoming WRs (or any other position). I think that is exactly what the Redskins are doing...and that's long-term planning, like what a real, smart, secure in its concept, business would do. Whether it works or not, we'll see...but it has to be better than flinging huge money around to over-hyped Free Agents (their previous business plan).

The signing of Santana Moss for less time and less money, than signing an expensive/troubled Santonio Holmes may have been the single shrewdest maneuver of this 2011 signing period. I was thinking the Jets might have been baiting the Redskins to sign Holmes, and then they swarm into sign Moss in his place...however, it was the Redskins that were the "smart" ones. Throwing big money at "small WRs" is a terrible NFL business decision, given how available the commodity is...especially since the QB has everything to do with their success. Antwaan Randle-El, Deion Branch...remember the consternation over the "loss" of those key WRs to the Steelers and Pats, ask Washington and Seattle how that worked out? Even Wes Welker -- not overly valuable. When Welker went down in 2009 for a few games, a former college QB who never played WR in his life (Julian Edelman), stepped in as a rookie in Week-2 and virtually put up the same exact stats and targets as Welker. Good/talented "small WRs" (shorter than 6'2, less than 205 pounds) are found all over, talented big WRs are much rarer, important commodity.

I'm lavishing a ton of praise on the Redskins, but I am keenly aware that John Beck and Rex Grossman would theoretically negate all the "smart" personnel decision accolades. However, it's not unreasonable for the Redskins to pass on all the 2011 overrated incoming rookie QBs (not just my opinion that this is a bad 2011 QB class, many others have echoed the same), and dump Donovan McNabb while he still has value, plus not trading for possible elite QB Kevin Kolb (Eagles won't trade him intra-division, like McNabb)...all that QB-avoidance by the Redskins is not unreasonable; if the goal is to get the next franchise all-everything QB in Andrew Luck in 2012. In order to get Luck, you need to be "bad" in 2011. The Redskins cannot win it all in 2011, and if you admit that reality internally...then you can also conceptualize that you could secure possible greatness for your franchise for the next decade plus by accelerating the 2011 losses to the point that you can get Luck.

This is just a half-baked theory on "tanking", not sure any team would or could, but somehow I have to get my mind wrapped around John Beck and Rex Grossman decision-making...




Click the link (http://fantasyfootballmetrics.com/Player_News/2011/Fantasy%20Draft/Draft_2011_FASEAWASH_072711.htm)for the rest...

Koolblue13
August-3rd-2011, 12:46 PM
I hate the "tanking the season" comments. We are building a team, from a roster with aged or lost talent, not tanking the season.

onedrop
August-3rd-2011, 12:52 PM
ahhh-haaaaaa, FANATSY football, thats where all this baloney started.

NLC1054
August-3rd-2011, 12:53 PM
Stokley didn't sign here. Shows how much this guy knows about anything currently happening at Redskins Park.

onedrop
August-3rd-2011, 12:55 PM
Stokley didn't sign here. Shows how much this guy knows about anything currently happening at Redskins Park.

its from 7/27. fantasy boy just didnt update it.

WhoRUSupposed2Be
August-3rd-2011, 12:57 PM
I'm with you Koolblue... I am looking for this team to be competitive.

Remember, how can you access a team in the loss column?!

GibbsFactor
August-3rd-2011, 01:01 PM
I hate the "tanking the season" comments. We are building a team, from a roster with aged or lost talent, not tanking the season.

Whatever verbage makes you sleep at night.

Do you disagree with what he is saying?

Skinsfan4life83
August-3rd-2011, 01:09 PM
No one is INTENTIONALLY tanking the season for Andrew Luck. I dont see Shanny tanking anything personally. Now Rebuilding? YES. If this team happens to suck enough to have a shot at Luck then so be it. But I personally dont think the Skins lose enough games to be picking in the top 5. Especially if Grossman starts over Beck.

Skinsfan4life83
August-3rd-2011, 01:11 PM
I dont think anyone gives Grossman enough credit. And I also think he will make a good stop gap until next years draft when there will be more QB's than just Andrew Luck available. Beck on the other hand......

WyomingRedskin
August-3rd-2011, 01:12 PM
The comment about Stokley signing immediately dismisses the credibility of this writer and piece. Tanking, we are not. Can you imagine Shanny tanking a season? It is not in his DNA.

GibbsFactor
August-3rd-2011, 01:21 PM
The comment about Stokley signing immediately dismisses the credibility of this writer and piece. Tanking, we are not. Can you imagine Shanny tanking a season? It is not in his DNA.

:ols:

Okay. But for the record, this was written before Stokely felt he wasn't good enough to make the team.

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ahhh-haaaaaa, FANATSY football, thats where all this baloney started.

Can you contribute? I dare you.

onedrop
August-3rd-2011, 01:33 PM
:ols:

Okay. But for the record, this was written before Stokely felt he wasn't good enough to make the team.

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Can you contribute? I dare you.

you "dare" me? what the hell are you talking about?

ChiefPowhatan17
August-3rd-2011, 01:37 PM
Allen is making practical decisions that look to the future. We are getting younger as a team.

Rdskns2000
August-3rd-2011, 02:12 PM
If Skins were tanking the season; then odds are Shanny wouldn't even be around next year. You think Danny will put up with that?

He expects progress this year, even if it doesn't necessarily show up the record.

GibbsFactor
August-3rd-2011, 04:32 PM
If Skins were tanking the season; then odds are Shanny wouldn't even be around next year. You think Danny will put up with that?

He expects progress this year, even if it doesn't necessarily show up the record.

That's an assumption now isn't it. Danny can't get rid of Shannahan. He's cut off his rope. He has to sit back and let a plan develop. I'm sure he's even signed off on it. If Danny is smart, he knows the only way to win back the fans is to win. What's one more year?

Rudechain
August-3rd-2011, 04:40 PM
I just find it hard to fathom a professional football organization conspiring to be bad in order to take a chance on a high draft pick. I can't imagine the front office would make a plan to put a team out that won't compete in order to take a chance on a rookie who may or may not pan out. ( Luck looks good but he could flame out or get injured)

It's a heck of an assumption by the author and is asinine. These guys are professionals and have some pride.

WyomingRedskin
August-3rd-2011, 04:58 PM
:ols:

Okay. But for the record, this was written before Stokely felt he wasn't good enough to make the team.

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Can you contribute? I dare you.

Yeah, my point still stands. How can you even devise that opinion at the beginning of the free agency period when you don't know what moves we are going to make to improve our team. How many more players have we signed since the 27th? How many more players are we yet to sign? Anyone who thinks we are tanking this season doesn't know Shanny and is a complete nincompoop.