BR: Lofa Tatupu: 4 Reasons the Washington Redskins Will Sign Former Seahawks LB

[kumadapuma]

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/789461-lofa-tatupu-4-reasons-to-believe-the-redskins-will-sign-former-seahawks-lb
i mean he wouldnt be a bad move he isnt that old and he would do great alongside fletcher idk what do you guys think

[Maximus71]

I ll trust the coaches that his knees are up to the task.

[NeckBone]

I really want to see him lined up next to London

[WyomingRedskin]

I'm not buying. Not sure he is the right fit. He has been injured. Also seems to contradict the moves the team has been making in the last week. I say go with a youngster.

[iMeast]

If he is healthy that could give the Redskins the best group of linebackers in the NFC East ... maybe NFC.

HTTR

[Art]

If he's healthy it's a no-brainer. Even if he's not a PERFECT fit, he's athletic and active and would be a lot like Fletcher who ALSO isn't a perfect fit.

I worry about his knees though. I suspect we don't get this guy though. Unless the contract is seriously loaded to reward health and production, it's likely not worth it.

[Chump Bailey]

Rotoworld has him likely going to sign with da Bears

[kumadapuma]

alot mixed views but i hear perry riley also has done pretty good in camp lately but i wouldn't mind signing him unless he is completely healthy

[Bobbyst21]

Lined up next to Fletcher????Hell yeah.Lb core would be incredible.
Just dont over pay for him.Modest contract with incentives and stipulations.

[Alcoholic Zebra]

I'd much rather see Perry Riley. And this is why the fan base is hypocritical. A formerly good but injured player on the decline versus a young up and coming guy who by all accounts is impressing in camp and the coaching staff believes in him.

Nope, we'd much rather take the guy who made the pro-bowl in the past but will never make it again, and let our young talent rot away on the bench.

[jaybrant]

I'm down for this move. I understand the whole "get younger, get younger" cry, but this guy has been a leader since he came into the league. If we're gonna get younger we still need that positive veteran leadership and I believe London wouldn't mind some help with that. I say DO IT!!!!!

[authentic]

Wouldn't mind him as a back up....Otherwise, his knees is a major red flag. I would prefer Henson, with Riley as the starter no matter what.

[Swift]

I love the way Tatupu plays when healthy, but his knees are a major concern. Without them he won't have any explosiveness back there.

[Backpack3r]

What happened to his knees?

[wrecker]

I'd much rather see Perry Riley. And this is why the fan base is hypocritical. A formerly good but injured player on the decline versus a young up and coming guy who by all accounts is impressing in camp and the coaching staff believes in him.

Nope, we'd much rather take the guy who made the pro-bowl in the past but will never make it again, and let our young talent rot away on the bench.


So what happens if London goes down? Do we trust Riley and Henson out there? HB Blades? Who will lead the defense? Also London can't play forever.
If he's deemed healthy I would be for this move. He is not that old. I am sure we could still work the young guys into the rotation as the season plays on.

[lovetoaster]

I just don't get a good vibe about him. If this were the old regime, he would already have a contract done. But if you take away the name, the injuries and the decline in productivity are a huge concern for me. I like him, but for the contract he is likely to get, I would stay away.

[ChiefPowhatan17]

I am trusting the coaches decision on this one. Not the media, especially not the guys drinking the hateraid on 106.7, including BMitch.

[lovetoaster]

So what happens if London goes down? Do we trust Riley and Henson out there? HB Blades? Who will lead the defense? Also London can't play forever.
If he's deemed healthy I would be for this move. He is not that old. I am sure we could still work the young guys into the rotation as the season plays on.

It does not matter how old he is, it matters that he has had injury problems and his play has significantly declined over the last few years. I know Lofa is a "leader," but I would not pay someone what it is likely to cost just because they are a good locker room guy. They have to do it on the field as well, and without a clean bill of health (which I doubt he will have), his best days are likely well behind him. Don't get me wrong, I like him and I wish him well, but I don't think he is the best fit for this team right now.

[Backpack3r]

Honestly what happened to his knees? He played all 16 games last year and is 28 years old. I think we should get him for depth, he will start alongside London and if you guys are worried about developing Perry Riley, dont worry, he will see the field. They sub in and out linebackers too

[DeadExField]

Anyone got highlights?

[lovetoaster]

I'd much rather see Perry Riley. And this is why the fan base is hypocritical. A formerly good but injured player on the decline versus a young up and coming guy who by all accounts is impressing in camp and the coaching staff believes in him.

Nope, we'd much rather take the guy who made the pro-bowl in the past but will never make it again, and let our young talent rot away on the bench.

Yep, this is essentially the way I feel as well. Lofa has not played at a Pro Bowl level since at least 2007, probably 2006. I know he can't help the fact that injuries have held him back, but the bottom line is his production over the last three season has just not been up to par to his first three seasons when he became a star. He is unlikely to revert to the guy he was his first three seasons in the league. I am guessing that what we have seen since 2008 is what Tatupu is now, and honestly, all things considered, I would ratehr see Perry in that spot.

[themurf]

If Bleacher Report says it's gonna happen; it won't. Worst sports website on the 'net.

[MartinC]

I really want to see him lined up next to London

I really want to see Riley lined up next to Fletcher - time we see what we have there and I think he has great potential. If they can sign Tatupu to a reasonable one year deal for depth great he can compete with Blades, Armstrong and Henson for the backup spots inside. But I don't see him as a starter.

[wrecker]

They sub in and out linebackers too


Yeah, except for London because he is counted on to make all the presnap calls.
I am sure he would like another veteran out there so he could take a breather once in awhile.

[Backpack3r]

If Bleacher Report says it's gonna happen; it won't. Worst sports website on the 'net.

Bleacher Report is a great website with interesting articles on all sports. I am not sure how credible they are as a source, but it is a great sports website.

[Truant]

No thanks. Career is falling off a cliff with jetpacks vents facing skyward.

[santanathegreat]

Bleacher Report is a great website with interesting articles on all sports. I am not sure how credible they are as a source, but it is a great sports website.

It's a bunch of bloggers. They have no credibility at all...the only thing BR is good for is some good summer fodder until the season actually starts.

[authentic]

He was good once upon a time. Actually he was darn good. But those knees are a career killer...After thinking about it, i'm not even sure i would want him as a back up. Pass!!....

[bigtymeskin2126]

So what happens if London goes down? Do we trust Riley and Henson out there? HB Blades? Who will lead the defense? Also London can't play forever.
If he's deemed healthy I would be for this move. He is not that old. I am sure we could still work the young guys into the rotation as the season plays on.

I'm for Perry Riley over signing Tatupu as well, we need to stay young and try to avoid past injured players at key positions. If we want to have the Superbowl team we all want to see, follow the mold of what Green Bay has done, build through the draft and continuously get younger, and throw your young players out there and see what they have when somebody gets hurt.

[BackToGlory]

I am sorry to have a player come in here when his wheels are shot is crazy, we need to promote from within, I think we have the 4 starting linebackers already on the roster. Kerrigan, Orakpo, Fletcher and Riley.

[Swift]

What happened to his knees?

Had both his knees scoped earlier this year. The past few years, injuries have taken away his edge. Here's a good article on him:

http://www.thenewstribune.com/2011/08/01/1766249/tatupu-limps-away-after-giving.html

[21Knock_U_Out]

#2. we need a leader on defense? I thought London was the leader:whoknows:

[lovetoaster]

Honestly what happened to his knees? He played all 16 games last year and is 28 years old. I think we should get him for depth, he will start alongside London and if you guys are worried about developing Perry Riley, dont worry, he will see the field. They sub in and out linebackers too

He had arthroscopic surgery on both knees in January and honestly nobody knows how they look because all information was locked down because of the lockout. His knees bothered him all of last year, and he has been banged up quite a bit over the last few years. I just don't know what you will be able to count on from him. I think too many people think that he is going to be the guy that he was when he first come into the league and I doubt that is going to be the case. I would not mind having him if the price was right, but I would not pencil him as being a starter and I think someone is going to jump and offer him more than he is worth at this stage in his career.

[Spunkush]

I'd much rather see Perry Riley. And this is why the fan base is hypocritical. A formerly good but injured player on the decline versus a young up and coming guy who by all accounts is impressing in camp and the coaching staff believes in him.

Nope, we'd much rather take the guy who made the pro-bowl in the past but will never make it again, and let our young talent rot away on the bench.

+1

[wrecker]

I'm for Perry Riley over signing Tatupu as well, we need to stay young and try to avoid past injured players at key positions. If we want to have the Superbowl team we all want to see, follow the mold of what Green Bay has done, build through the draft and continuously get younger, and throw your young players out there and see what they have when somebody gets hurt.

Throwing young players out there before the coaches feel they are ready can increase the risk of those young players getting hurt also.

[lovetoaster]

Had both his knees scoped earlier this year. The past few years, injuries have taken away his edge. Here's a good article on him:

http://www.thenewstribune.com/2011/08/01/1766249/tatupu-limps-away-after-giving.html

Good find. He is a great guy and has been an excellent football player. But injuries have taken a toll on him.

[angel2]

I'd much rather see Perry Riley. And this is why the fan base is hypocritical. A formerly good but injured player on the decline versus a young up and coming guy who by all accounts is impressing in camp and the coaching staff believes in him.

Nope, we'd much rather take the guy who made the pro-bowl in the past but will never make it again, and let our young talent rot away on the bench.



I think he goes to the Bears because Chicago is in dire straights for an ILB.

[bigtymeskin2126]

Throwing young players out there before the coaches feel they are ready can increase the risk of those young players getting hurt also.

Possibly so, but in our case the depth we have already have some experience for the most part.

[lovetoaster]

Throwing young players out there before the coaches feel they are ready can increase the risk of those young players getting hurt also.

That's true to an extent, but Perry Riley is not an undrafted free agent. We are not just throwing him in the fire. He got some experience last year and if the coaches think he is ready to go then that's fine by me.

I would rather do that than drop a few million and possibly a multi-year deal on someone that might be done. We have thrown a lot of money essentially in a hole over the last decade. If he comes cheap and it is a one-year deal, fine. I am all for that. But I would not be surprised if someone goes overboard on a contract based on his past exploits. I just hope it is not us.

[tml6157]

I think he goes to the Bears because Chicago is in dire straights for an ILB.

Ummm Urlacher?

[BRAVEONAWARPATH]

Honestly what happened to his knees?

Lofa had surgery on both knees in January.

[Champskins]

That's true to an extent, but Perry Riley is not an undrafted seventh rounder. We are not just throwing him in the fire. He got some experience last year and if the coaches think he is ready to go then that's fine by me.

I would rather do that than drop a few million and possibly a multi-year deal on someone that might be done. We have thrown a lot of money essentially in a hole over the last decade. If he comes cheap and it is a one-year deal, fine. I am all for that. But I would not be surprised if someone goes overboard on a contract based on his past exploits. I just hope it is not us.

:confused:

say what?!

[BRAVEONAWARPATH]

NFL Films analyst Greg Cosell noted Tuesday that Tatupu looked slower on film and was "not the same player" last season in Seattle. "He's now a question, not a certain," adds Cosell

http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/3189/lofa-tatupu

[CPAllTheWay012]

Keep in mind Lofa Tatupu asked for his own release. A lot of Seahawk's fans are holding out hoping he might come back to Seattle. With the amount of young players we have on our roster right now, I don't see why it could hurt to bring a veteran guy like him in.

[Renegade7]

Most of y'all sound like a bunch of sheep right now. Look at his nfl page, outside of 2009, he's only missed one game in 5 seasons. If shanallen feel he can help our team, I'm down for it. He won't get some $13 million signing bonus, those days are over. So if he comes and it doesn't work, so wat?

[lovetoaster]

:confused:

say what?!

Oops, I meant to say undrafted free agent.

[Laxpunk2006]

Who says Tatupu has to come in with a starting role? Riley is a thumped in the middle that could sub out in Nickel packages. Plenty of successful 3-4 defenses have nickel coverage linebackers that come in on passing downs. Limiting his snaps could maximize his productivity while giving him real snaps to get his body right. If he can regain his health we have a potential replacement for London Fletcher down the road. If he doesn't its not like we have a Logan of talent at ILB. This is all assuming he can pass a physical and sign an incentive laden contract for a role player.

[lovetoaster]

Most of y'all sound like a bunch of sheep right now. Look at his nfl page, outside of 2009, he's only missed one game in 5 seasons. If shanallen feel he can help our team, I'm down for it. He won't get some $13 million signing bonus, those days are over. So if he comes and it doesn't work, so wat?

I don't know what you mean by a bunch of sheep. Seems like there are some that want him and some that don't. There are plenty of people that know what they are talking about that have serious questions about his effectiveness at this point in his career. I am fine with us bringing him in, but it should not be for a high amout of money. I think sheep might more categorize people that hear his name and assume that he is going to come in here and have 130 tackles like he did in 2006, knowing nothing about his injury problems and generally pedestrian play over the last few years. I am not saying anyone here is doing that, but a lot of people elsewhere are.

Sure, he has only missed one game other than the 11 that he missed in 2009, but there is no denying that his play has dropped off in the last few years. I applaud him for playing hurt, but if your production suffers, that may not be a positive. Like I said, if he comes cheap, I am all for it, but I don't know if that is going to happen.

[skinzwiz]

Pick him up immediately! He is perfect for the 3-4 and is a great leader.

[wrecker]

That's true to an extent, but Perry Riley is not an undrafted free agent. We are not just throwing him in the fire. He got some experience last year and if the coaches think he is ready to go then that's fine by me.

I would rather do that than drop a few million and possibly a multi-year deal on someone that might be done. We have thrown a lot of money essentially in a hole over the last decade. If he comes cheap and it is a one-year deal, fine. I am all for that. But I would not be surprised if someone goes overboard on a contract based on his past exploits. I just hope it is not us.


I totallly agree with the emphasis on "if the coaches think he is ready to go". If they feel the need to bring in Tatupu then maybe that's not the case or they want an insurance policy just in case.

[lovetoaster]

Who says Tatupu has to come in with a starting role?

I would be fine with him coming in as a backup, but I think a lot of people are assuming he would be a starter. And honestly, if I were him, that's probably what I would be looking for. But if all he finds are backup opportunities, I think he might head back to Seattle for the same thing.

[skinzwiz]

I would be fine with him coming in as a backup, but I think a lot of people are assuming he would be a starter. And honestly, if I were him, that's probably what I would be looking for. But if all he finds are backup opportunities, I think he might head back to Seattle for the same thing.Who is he going to back up?! This is not exactly a team of LB pro bowlers. There's Fletcher, Orakpo, and...

[Laxpunk2006]

I would be fine with him coming in as a backup, but I think a lot of people are assuming he would be a starter. And honestly, if I were him, that's probably what I would be looking for. But if all he finds are backup opportunities, I think he might head back to Seattle for the same thing.

I'm sure he's looking for a starting role I'm just not sure its going to be offered. While I'm suggesting he wouldn't be a starter in our base defense he could potentially win a starting job in nickel packages. With the short season that may be the best offer he gets. If someone else wants to present a bigger role for him then by no means do I want to get into a bidding war.

[lovetoaster]

Who is he going to back up?! This is not exactly a team of LB pro bowlers. There's Fletcher, Orakpo, and...

Riley. I think it is very reasonable to say that Riley might have more to offer at this point than Tatupu.

[Champskins]

Who is he going to back up?! This is not exactly a team of LB pro bowlers. There's Fletcher, Orakpo, and...

It might not be a team of LB probowlers, but it could also hamper the gelling process of guys like Riley and Henson. I'm on the fence with Tatupu. He's a good character guy and played his heart out in Seattle. If he can pass the physical, then competition would not hurt.. if anything, it could make Riley just play that much harder. From what I'm reading and hearing about training camp so far, Riley is deserving of the starting spot (and I will see for myself this Friday and Saturday at TC)... He's been finding holes and getting to Beck constantly. With our improved DL, these LB's will be able to showcase their skills a lot more than in past years

Someone said it earlier, but it could be Riley (good in run support) on first and seconds while Tatupu comes in on passing/nickel downs

[lovetoaster]

I'm sure he's looking for a starting role I'm just not sure its going to be offered. While I'm suggesting he wouldn't be a starter in our base defense he could potentially win a starting job in nickel packages. With the short season that may be the best offer he gets. If someone else wants to present a bigger role for him then by no means do I want to get into a bidding war.

I think we are on the same page here. If the money is right and we are not promising anything I would be fine with it. I just think we have to have realistic expectations of what he brings to the table.

[ucfSKINS]

Wouldn't mind him as a back up....Otherwise, his knees is a major red flag. I would prefer Henson, with Riley as the starter no matter what.

^This.

Although Tatupu has played exceptionally well in the past and has a great motor, I'd rather go with a hungry, younger, and healthier Riley. But hey, whatever the coaching staff believes is best.

[Champskins]

^^^ Henson is an OLB, Riley is ILB

[SlobberKnockinFootball]

Guys, Perry Riley hasn't earned anything yet. Bring in Lofa and let them both battle it out.. Shanahan is all about competition... If you got a quality guy and he's injury prone.. then this is the perfect situation to let him battle it out.. if he wins the spot then you have Riley sitting there waiting in the wings and won't skip a beat. I love how us as fans are already trying to "give" PR the spot and he hasn't quite earned it just yet. Let them battle it out!

[skinzwiz]

It might not be a team of LB probowlers, but it could also hamper the gelling process of guys like Riley and Henson. I'm on the fence with Tatupu. He's a good character guy and played his heart out in Seattle. If he can pass the physical, then competition would not hurt.. if anything, it could make Riley just play that much harder. From what I'm reading and hearing about training camp so far, Riley is deserving of the starting spot (and I will see for myself this Friday and Saturday at TC)... He's been finding holes and getting to Beck constantly. With our improved DL, these LB's will be able to showcase their skills a lot more than in past years

Someone said it earlier, but it could be Riley (good in run support) on first and seconds while Tatupu comes in on passing/nickel downsTatupu has played at a pro bowl level. Injuries have just plagued him over the past few years, but when he's fully healthy, he is hands down better than Henson or Riley who everyone has been wanting to break out for the past 3 yearsnow. Every year I'm hearing this Riley and Henson talk, but they remain on the bench. Seeing what Tatupu has done in his career, I'll bet on him for right now.

You may be right about Riley, but I'm just thinking this is wishful thinking. I've heard the Riley talk for too long.

[Alcoholic Zebra]

^^^ Henson is an OLB, Riley is ILB

No, they're both ILB. We run a 3-4 not a 4-3. Henson can't play OLB in a 3-4.

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Pick him up immediately! He is perfect for the 3-4 and is a great leader.

And you say this because...of what? Seattle runs a 4-3 defense. We already have that ILB leader with Fletcher. Fletcher and Lofa are pretty similar in playstyle, are you saying you want to replace Fletcher?

[lovetoaster]

Tatupu has played at a pro bowl level. Injuries have just plagued him over the past few years, but when he's fully healthy, he is hands down better than Henson or Riley who everyone has been wanting to break out for the past 3 years now.

Yes, but Tatupu has not been fully healthy since 2007 and there is no way to guarantee that he ever will be that way again, much less regain his Pro Bowl form. True, we have no idea what we have in Riley right now, but it seems like he has the potential to make some plays, while Tatupu's playmaking ability has been hampered ever since Riley was a junior at LSU.

Riley was just a rookie last year, it is not like he has been around for five years.

[ucfSKINS]

^^^ Henson is an OLB, Riley is ILB

Henson also getting work at ILB FWIW. I was agreeing with his statement about Riley, about having Tatupu as a back up, and about his knees being red flags.

[Alcoholic Zebra]

Every year I'm hearing this Riley and Henson talk, but they remain on the bench. Seeing what Tatupu has done in his career, I'll bet on him for right now.

You may be right about Riley, but I'm just thinking this is wishful thinking. I've heard the Riley talk for too long.

What? Riley was a ROOKIE last season! You've heard this talk for years? Please. You're just making stuff up now.

[Champskins]

No, they're both ILB. We run a 3-4 not a 4-3. Henson can't play OLB in a 3-4.

Good call... was under the assumption he kept getting to the QB last preseason as OLB

[the krabber]

Tatupu has played at a pro bowl level. Injuries have just plagued him over the past few years, but when he's fully healthy, he is hands down better than Henson or Riley who everyone has been wanting to break out for the past 2 years now. Every year I'm hearing this Riley and Henson talk, but they remain on the bench. Seeing what Tatupu has done in his career, I'll bet on him for right now.

You may be right about Riley, but I'm just thinking this is wishful thinking. I've heard the Riley talk for too long.Youve heard the Riley talk for too long? We just drafted him a year ago...

[NewEraofSkins08]

I don't think we can go wrong signing him. He's a great locker room guy and a natural leader. If he can't stay healthy then we move on, it's not like we payed him $41 million in guarantees. If he stays healthy, he can be a solid 3-4 ILB for us for another 5 years. Sign him up!

[skinzwiz]

What? Riley was a ROOKIE last season! You've heard this talk for years? Please. You're just making stuff up now. Well to be ultra specific for you I was talking about Henson for this year and the last two and Riley last year and this year. From the second Riley was drafted people were trying to build this guy up and he basically never played. Now they are doing it again and it doesn't makes sense b/c he hasn't proved anything. While on the other hand Tatupu has been successful and he is just 28. He can get over the injury bug at 28.

[jaybrant]

Youve heard the Riley talk for too long? We just drafted him a year ago...

You almost have to agree that if a player doesn't hit his full potential in 10-12 months. Then it's time to move on. *sarcasm*

[757SeanTaylor21]

"vet min+ incentives" bwahahahahah

[jaydogg3eb]

Youve heard the Riley talk for too long? We just drafted him a year ago...

I think he means the Riley "kind of talk". The "We dont need to sign a big name player, lets give Rock Cartwright a chance because we drafted him and we want to be a proud franchise like the Patriots and Steelers that draft their own players" kind of talk.

[lovetoaster]

While on the other hand Tatupu has been successful and he is just 28. He can get over the injury bug at 28.

I think you are assuming a lot here. It is not like he had the flu.

[B55Green]

Yawn, we'll see.

[70th Week]

Yawn, we'll see.

Dude, I don't know why but everytime I see your sig I picture ART as the driver, lol.....(and not Art Monk, lol)

[hoosandskinsMUSTwin]

I'd rather have Hayden. A real solid quartet of DB's with starting experience if we had Hall, Wilson, Hayden, and Buchanon on the roster.

[Hiro]

I'd rather let Riley or Henson get their shot ...

[s0crates]

Reasons not to sign Tatupu: Injury history and declining production.

Reasons to sign Tatupu: We are very thin at ILB, and we are running a 3-4. We need more bodies there. He has good leadership and experience, if he can get healthy, he can help us.

I could go either way on this one, but I think adding him to the mix is probably a good idea. I worry about our depth. As it is now, if we lose London we are in trouble. Tatupu could provide some insurance.

[Rudechain]

I'm not buying. Not sure he is the right fit. He has been injured. Also seems to contradict the moves the team has been making in the last week. I say go with a youngster.

If his knees are ok, then he's a good addition.

BTW, he's 28 and will be 29 in November.

[lovetoaster]

I'd rather have Hayden. A real solid quartet of DB's with starting experience if we had Hall, Wilson, Hayden, and Buchanon on the roster.

I was thinking the same thing earlier. While Hayden also has obviously had injury concerns, I don't think he comes with the same expectations and would definitely be seen as a depth signing coming in. I don't think the cost or the expectation would be as high with Hayden, but he would fill a position of need.

[Ever202Reyes]

I love this. He is a solid MLB. He will likely be involved in an open competition. I know Shanny isn't going to just hand him the starting job. Especially with Riley and Henson hungry for some action.

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[HBnotBlades]

I just can't see us signing him at this point. He doesn't fit with the rebuild and has looked like a shell of his former self the last two years.

A note to my fellow ES members: Just because you don't have an entrenched veteran starter at every position doesn't mean you need to bring one in. We have several young promising recent draft picks at ILB and they should compete for the spot. That's how properly functioning teams work. Henson backed up and played special teams his first year and then looked excellent during preseason last season before he went on IR. He hasn't had a chance to show his stuff yet. Riley looked solid as a back up his rookie year and from all reports has been beasting it in camp so far.

I know we aren't used to drafting a player, letting him learn on the bench, then letting him compete for a starting roll. We're not used to it because we've been watching a dysfunctional organization for the last 10 years. Let's not panic because we didn't sign a UFA to a $25m contract. Henson and Riley will be fine, and if they aren't, HB Blades has shown himself to be competent at ILB.

[SamoaSkinz]

As much as I love having another Samoan on the team, I think Lofa is looking for good payday and starting job. He might get decent $$$ here but no guarantee of a starting job.

He is a good leader like Fletcher, good locker room guy. But I thought one of his weaknesses was he cannot shed blocks/smothered against o-linemen, something he will face more in the 3-4 than 4-3. I think 4-3 MLB is more suitable for him but than again Fletcher was a 4-3 MLB but look at him, he can play the 3-4 ILB just as well.

[dirtyJerz]

Does anyone know how his meeting with the Skins went? Is there any intrest on either side?

I think a seasoned vet like Tatupu would be good for the Skins. He'll add experience, leadership and we could use another LB to fill out a thin position.

[SonnyandSam]

With the signing of Rocky, I think Tatupu will be signing with another team. I think the shortened off season has scared our coaches into bringing back guys who know the system rather than go with players that might have more upside, but would not understand the system until the season is almost over.

And Haslett's comments today suggested that he thinks Perry is overwhelmed understanding how to play the two ILB positions.

[hokie88]

Does anyone know how his meeting with the Skins went? Is there any intrest on either side?

I think a seasoned vet like Tatupu would be good for the Skins. He'll add experience, leadership and we could use another LB to fill out a thin position.

Per Rick Maese Twitter: Sounds like LB Lofa Tatupu is in DC area this evening. We'll see if Redskins can hammer out a deal tomorrow...

[Chump Bailey]

I'm hoping we land both. I'm worried about his knees, but if he believes he's healthy and can play, Tatupu would be a nice addition.

[s0crates]

With the signing of Rocky, I think Tatupu will be signing with another team. I think the shortened off season has scared our coaches into bringing back guys who know the system rather than go with players that might have more upside, but would not understand the system until the season is almost over.


Per Rick Maese Twitter: Sounds like LB Lofa Tatupu is in DC area this evening. We'll see if Redskins can hammer out a deal tomorrow...

:whoknows:

[airborneskins]

As much as I would like to see him sign, I would be surprised if he did. Good talent and leader to have though.

[darknessplayas]

More bodies mean more competition, which is exactly what Mike said he wanted. If skins can get this deal done, it should be a great addition.

[Skinsational!]

Not sure if this link has been posted, but it provides a little more insight into what Tatupu needs to once again achieve success as an ILB in the NFL. Main point: he needs big bodies on the D-line.
http://seahawknationblog.com/2011/01/surgeries-point-to-key-issue-for-lofa-tatupu/

I'm absolutely in favor of giving Tatupu a shot. Provides depth and some underrated across-the-middle pass coverage skills, as well. Plus, never underestimate how cool FedEx might sound after he gets a pick or a sack: "TAAAHHHH-TOOOOOOO-POOOOOOH!!" I'm in favor...if only for the chant alone.

[B55Green]

Rather have Tatupu than Rocky.

[Fetus]

Not to sure this would be a wise move after re-singing Rocky, I would like him to come in but I don't see the point. We could put Rocky outside and use him inside I guess, or vice versa. Maybe move him back in when Fletch retires

[Bobbyst21]

I was hoping/expecting to have signed him today.

[HigSkin]

I think Shanny slipped up at this evenings PC when asked about Lofu. Said he was here for a physical then asked if he signed, Shanny said "no, not yet" and kinda raised his eyebrows like be patient.

I think we're signing him.

[RWJ]

I think Shanny slipped up at this evenings PC when asked about Lofu. Said he was here for a physical then asked if he signed, Shanny said "no, not yet" and kinda raised his eyebrows like be patient.

I think we're signing him.


There you go. Question answered.

[Dana87]

I think Shanny slipped up at this evenings PC when asked about Lofu. Said he was here for a physical then asked if he signed, Shanny said "no, not yet" and kinda raised his eyebrows like be patient.

I think we're signing him.

I noticed the same thing, and had the same reaction. The smile alone said they were working on a deal. Now something could go wrong but I think they get this done. especially if Riley has been struggling like they have reported.

[HigSkin]

I noticed the same thing, and had the same reaction. The smile alone said they were working on a deal. Now something could go wrong but I think they get this done. especially if Riley has been struggling like they have reported.

We need some experience in there to help out Fletch, at least until the young guys get it.

[HailSkins83]

Macintosh is not a lock to make this team... Remember that they have 90+ guys in camp and only 53 will make the team... At ILB we could see a rotation of tatupu, Fletcher, Riley, Henson, Blades and Alexander. OLB would be Orakpo, Kerrigan, Rob Jackson, and Markus White... let the competion begin

[RWJ]

I want everyone to read this Seattle reporters article on Lofa Tatupu. If you aren't inspired by it, you don't know diddly. JMO. :)

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/dannyoneil/2015787651_oneil01.html


"But Lofa Tatupu was the closest thing I've had to a friend in a pro locker room. We've never eaten dinner together or had a conversation over beers. The only face-to-face conversations I've ever had with him were either in a locker room or on a football field."

"I covered each of his six seasons in Seattle on a daily basis, and found him to be one of the most thoughtful, accountable and earnest people that I have had the fortune to meet in my role as a journalist.

"Three straight losing seasons for the Seahawks changed some of the perceptions. Tatupu went from being hailed as the "Little Engine Who Could," to being criticized. Injuries have taken a toll, as has the deterioration of Seattle's defensive line"

"

[redskinsfan4life29]

I'd much rather see Perry Riley. And this is why the fan base is hypocritical. A formerly good but injured player on the decline versus a young up and coming guy who by all accounts is impressing in camp and the coaching staff believes in him.

Nope, we'd much rather take the guy who made the pro-bowl in the past but will never make it again, and let our young talent rot away on the bench.



Will people stop with this perry riley guy...Do u guys even care about winning?obviosly the coaches do on defense cause we have ALL NEW players besides fletch orak cariker and hall thats 7 new guys starting.U guys want to win but u dont want to spend to win.i want a trophy not to give young UNPROVEN guys chances.....sorry im tired of going 5-11 and 6-10 we arent the bills or raiders we pride ourselves with rings and winning not losing

[RWJ]

Take it for what it's worth:

Rich_Campbell Rich Campbell
RT @WashTimesSports: Josh Wilson trying to convince LB Lofa Tatupu to join #Redskins http://bit.ly/puqd0p

[georgiaredskin]

And the 5th reason the Washington Redskins will sign former Seahawks LB:

It's a pretty cool name. They have to keep the cool name quota filled, especially after cutting Kemoeatu. (Kemo-eat-u)

[RWJ]

And the 5th reason the Washington Redskins will sign former Seahawks LB:

It's a pretty cool name. They have to keep the cool name quota filled, especially after cutting Kemoeatu. (Kemo-eat-u)


Really it's cuz of his attitude he brings to the team, lockeroom and field.:)

[Forehead]

Will people stop with this perry riley guy...Do u guys even care about winning?obviosly the coaches do on defense cause we have ALL NEW players besides fletch orak cariker and hall thats 7 new guys starting.

Um...Landry was a starter last year before he got hurt...he's not new. Barnes isn't new. Riley was on the team last year...alexander...Rob Jackson. They may not have been starters but it's not like we turned over our entire roster the way you make it sound. Atogwe is one sure new starter, and probably Cofield, maybe Kerrigan when he's healthy, but there hasn't been that much turnover.


U guys want to win but u dont want to spend to win.i want a trophy not to give young UNPROVEN guys chances.....sorry im tired of going 5-11 and 6-10 we arent the bills or raiders we pride ourselves with rings and winning not losing

Okay first off, "you" is just two more letters. These guys are draft picks. This team has spent years doing what you want to continue doing....sign a bunch of vets and go for it. That's what's been getting us all those 5-11 and 6-10 seasons you're so tired of. Why not try a different way, drafting young and giving them a chance? Pretty much everyone on this site is on board with the new plan.

You can be contrarian if you'd like, but please, for God's sake, spell your words out ;)

[georgiaredskin]

Really it's cuz of his attitude he brings to the team, lockeroom and field.:)

There can be a 6th reason. ;)

---------- Post added August-4th-2011 at 08:50 PM ----------

Russellmania980 Chris Russell
Mike Shanahan on Lofa Tatupu who was in for a physical -- "No, we haven't signed him. Yet." Pretty telling right there. #Redskins

Less than a minute ago on twitter

[DC9]

There can be a 6th reason. ;)

---------- Post added August-4th-2011 at 08:50 PM ----------

Russellmania980 Chris Russell
Mike Shanahan on Lofa Tatupu who was in for a physical -- "No, we haven't signed him. Yet." Pretty telling right there. #Redskins

Less than a minute ago on twitter


Thanks Chris, way to break it! lol. I think this will be a good signing. Give Lofa a light work load this year, let him heal up, and then work him in here and there and get him ready for when London hangs em up and starts coaching!

[Dana87]

Maybe Perry Riley will develop some day. But to be honest I don't understand some of the people in this thread acting as though he has earned something more than an opportunity to compete. If he is better than Tatupu he will beat him in competition for the position if not he will be a back up. Either way it turns out the Redskins have nothing to lose from bringing in the best competition they can find and let the the best man win.

[The Bounty Hunter #21]

Rather have Tatupu than Rocky.
+1

[dirtyJerz]

Just read an interesting article...

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2011/aug/4/josh-wilson-trying-convince-lofa-tatupu-join-redsk/#.TjtrFtxMuCU.mailto

Looks like Skins are pursuing him... Hopefully only a matter of time, they could use the depth.

[redskinsfan4life29]

Um...Landry was a starter last year before he got hurt...he's not new. Barnes isn't new. Riley was on the team last year...alexander...Rob Jackson. They may not have been starters but it's not like we turned over our entire roster the way you make it sound. Atogwe is one sure new starter, and probably Cofield, maybe Kerrigan when he's healthy, but there hasn't been that much turnover.

Bowen will start what is wrong with u?Josh wilson will start.U THINK BARNES WILL START OVER WILSON....u must be smoking something

Okay first off, "you" is just two more letters. These guys are draft picks. This team has spent years doing what you want to continue doing....sign a bunch of vets and go for it. That's what's been getting us all those 5-11 and 6-10 seasons you're so tired of. Why not try a different way, drafting young and giving them a chance? Pretty much everyone on this site is on board with the new plan.

You can be contrarian if you'd like, but please, for God's sake, spell your words out ;)

---------- Post added August-5th-2011 at 02:11 AM ----------

And another thing....If u think the Way u want us to win with "young guys"u are nuts if u think we will beat the eagles or even lose by 14 or less points.......Mark my words this team will not win a sb in the next 5 years or the playoffs with this talent.......We arent better then anybody in the north or nfc east or nfc south.Hell i think the panthers may be better then us....sad times to be a skins fan....

[DC9]

Maybe Perry Riley will develop some day. But to be honest I don't understand some of the people in this thread acting as though he has earned something more than an opportunity to compete. If he is better than Tatupu he will beat him in competition for the position if not he will be a back up. Either way it turns out the Redskins have nothing to lose from bringing in the best competition they can find and let the the best man win.

I think you are taking it out of context....let me try something different. Riley and Fletcher position in the 3-4 are different.

Secondly, I believe that most of us who like Riley, would support bringing in Lofa, and it would be best if Lofa backed up Fletch this year to learn the ropes of Fletches spot in the 3-4.
Most fans (atleast me) don't feel that Riley has "earned" anything, I think he deserves to be developed on the field, because that's how he get's better. If Tatupu comes in and he and Fletch play both ILB spots, then say next year Fletch retires, we still have a raw Perry Riley. He needs those reps is all anyone is saying.

And I'll tell you, I want Lofa bad, but I want Riley on that football field come week one. It's win win. Lofa learns Fletch's spot AND GETS HEALTHY, and Riley develops in the system with live bullets.

[dballer]

I think you are taking it out of context....let me try something different. Riley and Fletcher position in the 3-4 are different.

Secondly, I believe that most of us who like Riley, would support bringing in Lofa, and it would be best if Lofa backed up Fletch this year to learn the ropes of Fletches spot in the 3-4.
Most fans (atleast me) don't feel that Riley has "earned" anything, I think he deserves to be developed on the field, because that's how he get's better. If Tatupu comes in and he and Fletch play both ILB spots, then say next year Fletch retires, we still have a raw Perry Riley. He needs those reps is all anyone is saying.

And I'll tell you, I want Lofa bad, but I want Riley on that football field come week one. It's win win. Lofa learns Fletch's spot AND GETS HEALTHY, and Riley develops in the system with live bullets.


If we sign Lofa and he is healthy he should start. You don't think he could learn more about Fletcher's spot from being on the field next to him? And your right Perry needs reps, which he will still get plenty of I'm sure in sub packages. Just because he doesn't start doesn't mean he wont get playing time.

[Dana87]

I think you are taking it out of context....let me try something different. Riley and Fletcher position in the 3-4 are different.

Secondly, I believe that most of us who like Riley, would support bringing in Lofa, and it would be best if Lofa backed up Fletch this year to learn the ropes of Fletches spot in the 3-4.
Most fans (atleast me) don't feel that Riley has "earned" anything, I think he deserves to be developed on the field, because that's how he get's better. If Tatupu comes in and he and Fletch play both ILB spots, then say next year Fletch retires, we still have a raw Perry Riley. He needs those reps is all anyone is saying.

And I'll tell you, I want Lofa bad, but I want Riley on that football field come week one. It's win win. Lofa learns Fletch's spot AND GETS HEALTHY, and Riley develops in the system with live bullets.

I don't think I am taking anything out of context. I keep seeing, and not only in this thread fans talking about Perry Riley and how much they want him to get his shot. And that bringing in someone else would be a mistake because they would like to see what Riley has. My contention is that by bringing in someone like Tatupu that is exactly what you will get. Riley will get plenty of reps between now and the start of the season. I agree that maybe someone like Tatupu could eventually take over for Fletcher, but that is not what he will be needed for this season, baring an injury.

[DC9]

I don't think I am taking anything out of context. I keep seeing, and not only in this thread fans talking about Perry Riley and how much they want him to get his shot. And that bringing in someone else would be a mistake because they would like to see what Riley has. My contention is that by bringing in someone like Tatupu that is exactly what you will get. Riley will get plenty of reps between now and the start of the season. I agree that maybe someone like Tatupu could eventually take over for Fletcher, but that is not what he will be needed for this season, baring an injury.

Eh, I'm not picking up on that.

Maybe it's just the fanbase as a whole wanting (for once) to see what we have in house. We've seen this before. Ryan Clark/Adam Archuleta and so on.

dballer,
I would rather use Tatupu in sub packages (to ease him in) as opposed to Riley. If Riley isn't getting it and is regressing on the field, then I would let Lofa get in there with Fletcher. But, as you said, only if he's healthy.

[SnyderShrugged]

I dont know whether the silence is a positive or a negative regarding Lofa's potential signing at this point. Figured we would have heard something by now.

[jackson8919]

I think Riley has great potential, and he definitely deserves a shot. I'm also all for signing Lofa for the right price IF he is healthy. The more competition and depth we have the better. I don't think signing Lofa would mean that Riley gets demoted. I think Shanny would let the two duke it out and let the best man start.

[PleaseGoForTheWin]

There's been some talk about Rocky; is it confirmed that he's coming back? I'm having a hard time finding a confirmed, updated list of who's resigned and who hasn't. Thanks.