View Full Version : PFT: Cap status of all teams as of Tuesday: Redskins $18.7 million UNDER
Skadden
August-4th-2011, 12:19 PM
UPDATE: Revised cap figures as of today, the day before the League Year starts. Redskins now about $11.5 UNDER.
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/08/04/cap-room-snapshot-as-of-thursday/
Buccaneers ($ 29,560,000); Chiefs ($ 28,431,000); Jaguars ($ 28,000,000); Browns ($ 27,620,000); Bengals ($ 27,164,000); Broncos ($26,542,000); Bills ($ 23,460,000); 49ers ($ 22,570,000); Bears ($ 19,300,000); Seahawks ($ 16,387,000); Cardinals ($ 14,603,000); Redskins ($ 11,450,000); Packers ($ 11,106,000); Jets ($ 8,920,000); Dolphins ($ 8,446,000); Colts ($7,925,000); Titans ($ 7,127,000); Saints ($ 7,027,000); Patriots ($ 5,264,000); Chargers ($ 5,031,000); Eagles ($4,604,000); Ravens ($ 3,558,000); Panthers ($ 1,915,000); Vikings ($ 938,000); Falcons ($811,000); Giants ($623,000); Rams ($621,000).
The teams in the red are: Raiders ($15,246,000); Steelers ($8,597,000); Lions ($7,793,000); Cowboys ($6,671,000); and Texans ($3,358,000).
By tomorrow at 4:00 p.m., there should be no teams in the red.
If the league year begins tomorrow, there are several teams, including our beloved Cowpukes, that need to trim more off their cap figure to get below the $123 million ceiling.
Over
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/08/03/as-of-tuesday-seven-teams-were-over-the-cap/
Raiders ($17.3 million)
Steelers ($11.5 million)
Texans ($8.5 million)
Vikings ($5.6 million)
Lions ($5 million)
Cowboys ($3.7 million)
Panthers ($939,000)
Under (less than $20 M)
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/08/04/with-cba-coming-salary-cap-compliance-time-is-at-hand/
Redskins ($18.7 million)
Colts ($15.7 million)
Packers ($15.4 million)
Titans ($13.6 million)
Saints ($10.5 million)
Patriots ($9.2 million)
Jets ($7.6 million)
Dolphins ($6.6 million)
Ravens ($6.6 million)
Chargers ($5.0 million)
Eagles ($3.8 million)
Falcons ($2.6 million)
Rams ($490,000)
Giants ($290,000)
Under (more than $20 M)
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/08/02/11-teams-still-have-20-million-or-more-in-cap-room/
Bengals ($41 million)
Jaguars ($34 million)
Browns ($30.4 million)
Buccaneers (more than $30.2 million)
49ers (more than $30.0 million)
Chiefs (more than $28.7 million)
Broncos (more than $26.7 million)
Bills (more than $26.5 million)
Bears (more than $24 million)
Cardinals (more than $23.6 million)
Seahawks (more than $21.2 million)
Edit: This of course doesn't count recent Redskins transactions such as signing Rocky McIntosh, Reed Doughty, and Kedric Golston. But their contracts weren't big at all and still leave the Redskins millions of cap space to make transactions.
1972FAN
August-4th-2011, 12:24 PM
Sweet, doing it right.
SkinFaninOKC
August-4th-2011, 12:24 PM
The FO only has to spend about 5 to 6 mil to meet the minimum. Perhaps a FA OL?
Gibbs Hog Heaven
August-4th-2011, 12:25 PM
And how freaking refreshing is that to read?
Said it before and I'll say it again, it really can't be understated the fantastic job Allen and Shanahan have done in the turnover of this roster to date in 18 short months.
Hail.
jservs7
August-4th-2011, 12:26 PM
I know I'm a run on sentence when I state this but, I still can't believe that the Redskins under Daniel Snyder have made so many moves without giving up all our draft picks and have that much cap space.
HAIL!
Rocky21
August-4th-2011, 12:27 PM
Well let's sign some ****in' offensive linemen then.
Skadden
August-4th-2011, 12:29 PM
I hate to say it, but one BIG reason our cap is the way it is right now is because we front-loaded a bunch of it during the uncapped year in 2010. In particular, we paid Fat Al the majority of his guaranteed money through prior payments and in that $21M lump sum distribution he got from Shanny (in exchange for showing up for OTA).
Keep in mind that unamortized bonus money that is charged to the cap now is deferred to next year. On that note, teams like the Cowboys already have something like $12 M in dead money alone on '12 cap.
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The FO only has to spend about 5 to 6 mil to meet the minimum. Perhaps a FA OL?
Jared Gaither is still available. But he's a RT, and injury prone. Don't know if he can play anything else.
Hitman21ST
August-4th-2011, 12:30 PM
What in the world are the Bengals, Browns, Jags, and Bucs doing?
CatkinsonSkins
August-4th-2011, 12:31 PM
Well let's sign some ****in' offensive linemen then.
Please!!
Thatturkishguy
August-4th-2011, 12:33 PM
Poor raiders... they are so friggin backwards.
RichmondRedskin88
August-4th-2011, 12:33 PM
Some teams need to spend. I think we can afford to get another linemen
(no not a receiver smartasses.:ols: You know you were gonna say it:ols:)
SpacePenguin
August-4th-2011, 12:36 PM
Well let's sign some ****in' offensive linemen then.
I agree with the sentiment, but it would've already happened if that was the plan. I'd bet on a Landry extension, if he's healthy, and cheap camp bodies being brought in.
Skadden
August-4th-2011, 12:37 PM
Poor raiders... they are so friggin backwards.
How did they get that bad and how will they get under? Of course, paying Stanford Routt $33 million in a three year contract will do that to you.
icbmayday
August-4th-2011, 12:39 PM
Got big spending money
Crazy Levi
August-4th-2011, 12:44 PM
Said it before and I'll say it again,.
This should be your sig.
SkinFaninOKC
August-4th-2011, 12:44 PM
What in the world are the Bengals, Browns, Jags, and Bucs doing?
The Bucs have talent they can pay now. The Bengals are probably considering bankruptcy court. Maybe the Browns will give Braylon Edwards a bunch of money. The Jags are going to have to pay fans to go to their games.
Truant
August-4th-2011, 12:46 PM
With all that money I would have rather seen a player like Bradshaw come in instead of Hightower. Probably only depth/value signings from here on out. I don't think we're approaching the salary cap max this year.
We better next year. The team is younger and has arguably more talent. But the other teams in the division are far more ready to win now than we are. Rome wasn't built in a day, but I hope to see some serious headway towards winning next offseason.
wrecker
August-4th-2011, 12:49 PM
Poor raiders... they are so friggin backwards.
Count your blessings. It would have been us if My Cousin Vinny was still in charge.
Darth Tater
August-4th-2011, 12:50 PM
What in the world are the Bengals, Browns, Jags, and Bucs doing?
Don't know what the others are doing but the Bengals organization thinks the lockout is still on.
lanceman_1
August-4th-2011, 12:53 PM
I agree with the sentiment, but it would've already happened if that was the plan. I'd bet on a Landry extension, if he's healthy, and cheap camp bodies being brought in.
Maybe they are waiting/hoping for one of those teams over the cap to cut 1 or 2 of there oline to get under the cap.
Voice_of_Reason
August-4th-2011, 12:54 PM
And Ladies and Gents, this is why the Eagles can go out and buy everybody. They build their team smartly, getting pieces in place, and when they have the core pieces, if they want to grab a big splash guy, whether it be TO back in the day, or the whole crowd now, they have the ability to do it.
But the order is important. They are not bringing all of these guys to build around. They already have the team in place. They are bringing in guys to supplement. The 'Skins always did it backwards. They spent big money BUILDING the team. Then they were always cash strapped.
It appears as though the 'Skins are going about this the right way. They are building the team with young guys. Then if they want to add big name guys later, they have the ability to do it. Or they don't have to. But they are going to build the foundation first.
Kudos to Shanahan and Allen for getting the order right, and not having to restructure a 20 contracts to get under the cap.
HogHeaven84
August-4th-2011, 12:54 PM
It is nice to see that we're actually managing the cap correctly. BTW this also coincides that the team got younger instead of overpaying older used-to-be-stars. Not to mention with the rookie wage scale, I love the position we're in. Not having to pay a top 5 pick 50 million + in guaranteed money is nice. The main reason we're looking so good is for two reasons.
1.) Vinny is no longer the GM....unless I'm mistaken Allen's kind of a cap guru, which is good for the fiscal future of the team.
2.) The uncapped year. The uncapped year, essentially gave us 1 year to wipe the slate clean and start over.
I'm liking where we're heading in the future, maybe if we continue improve in all areas of the organization in and see sustained success on the field for a few years, players will be willing to come here and take a pay cut to win....instead of lay back and collect a pay check.
KillBill26
August-4th-2011, 12:57 PM
I hate to say it, but one BIG reason our cap is the way it is right now is because we front-loaded a bunch of it during the uncapped year in 2010. In particular, we paid Fat Al the majority of his guaranteed money through prior payments and in that $21M lump sum distribution he got from Shanny (in exchange for showing up for OTA).
Keep in mind that unamortized bonus money that is charged to the cap now is deferred to next year. On that note, teams like the Cowboys already have something like $12 M in dead money alone on '12 cap.
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Jared Gaither is still available. But he's a RT, and injury prone. Don't know if he can play anything else.
Why "I hate to say it"? What Allen did last year by taking advantage of an uncapped year was pretty smart because the Redskins are in good shape in terms of cap space for the foreseeable future. And bonus money paid last year (i.e. Albert) would be charged to the Skins cap number for 2011, and we already know we are $18 million under (according to the recent PFT article and I saw it on redzone.org today) . It seemed like you were implying that the Skins were going to get bit by unamortized bonus money like the Cowboys will. That's not my understanding, but I am definitely no cap expert. Please explain.
SpacePenguin
August-4th-2011, 12:58 PM
Maybe they are waiting/hoping for one of those teams over the cap to cut 1 or 2 of there oline to get under the cap.
Always possible, and I hope you're right, but even if they did bring in some cuts, I have a feeling Shanahan would go with the ones that know the system the best....which would end up being the guys we already have, unless the cuts are ZBK OLmen. And if they are, why would a ZBK team cut them without reason?
Best case scenario, we get damaged goods with no time to learn the ropes in TC. But I suppose that'd be better depth than what we have.
Darth Tater
August-4th-2011, 12:59 PM
Got big spending money
At this time, I'm thinking one of our best strategies is to roll forward as much future cap hit as possible.
pjfootballer
August-4th-2011, 01:00 PM
Tired of talking about the Eagles and comparing ourselves to the Eagles. Wake me up when they actually win a SB. Until then, they can shove it where the sun don't shine, because despite how "great" they've managed their team, they still have ZIP to show for it.
KillBill26
August-4th-2011, 01:02 PM
At this time, I'm thinking one of our best strategies is to roll forward as much future cap hit as possible.
And extending guys like LL.
Snarf
August-4th-2011, 01:05 PM
cool, they still have enough cap space to sign me
addicted
August-4th-2011, 01:05 PM
Chiefs (more than $28.7 million)
The Chiefs are in such good shape
Hate to gush over another team then the Skins but if I had to pick
They are in my opinion the next Dynasty Franchise in the league
Coaching staffs full of All Pro's who know how to spot players
The QB/WR combination of Cassel Bowe is just awesome
The RB combination of Jones/Charles and adding Laron McClain as lead blockers going to make that game explode
Defense is stacked with talent all around
Really liking what they are doing
aspkikn
August-4th-2011, 01:05 PM
With all that money I would have rather seen a player like Bradshaw come in instead of Hightower. Probably only depth/value signings from here on out. I don't think we're approaching the salary cap max this year.
We better next year. The team is younger and has arguably more talent. But the other teams in the division are far more ready to win now than we are. Rome wasn't built in a day, but I hope to see some serious headway towards winning next offseason.
There is nothing wrong with being uunder the cap - there is no team minimum this year.
Skadden
August-4th-2011, 01:06 PM
Why "I hate to say it"? What Allen did last year by taking advantage of an uncapped year was pretty smart because the Redskins are in good shape in terms of cap space for the foreseeable future. And bonus money paid last year (i.e. Albert) would be charged to the Skins cap number for 2011, and we already know we are $18 million under (according to the recent PFT article and I saw it on redzone.org today) . It seemed like you were implying that the Skins were going to get bit by unamortized bonus money like the Cowboys will. That's not my understanding, but I am definitely no cap expert. Please explain.
I used that phrase to reference the debacle we got ourselves into by paying Fat Al the $21 million but not getting anything from him, specifically his gentleman's promise that he'd attend OTAs. From a cap standpoint, it's golden. Maybe that was a bad choice of words, but all in all I'm glad it happened now and our front office was really astute in taking advantage of the uncapped year. That's one huge difference between this FO and the other one headed by that idiot Vinny Cerrato.
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There is nothing wrong with being uunder the cap - there is no team minimum this year.
But there is a league minimum this year. If the league doesn't hit that bogey, money goes into a slush fund. Next year, there will be team minimums.
KillBill26
August-4th-2011, 01:11 PM
There is nothing wrong with being uunder the cap - there is no team minimum this year.
Cap floor does not go into effect until 2013. Here is a pretty informative article.
http://www.tampabay.com/sports/football/bucs/explaining-the-nfl-salary-cap-salary-floor-what-it-means-for-tampa-bay/1184190
aspkikn
August-4th-2011, 01:11 PM
I used that phrase to reference the debacle we got ourselves into by paying Fat Al the $21 million but not getting anything from him, specifically his gentleman's promise that he'd attend OTAs. From a cap standpoint, it's golden. Maybe that was a bad choice of words, but all in all I'm glad it happened now and our front office was really astute in taking advantage of the uncapped year. That's one huge difference between this FO and the other one headed by that idiot Vinny Cerrato.
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But there is a league minimum this year. If the league doesn't hit that bogey, money goes into a slush fund. Next year, there will be team minimums.
so how does that work? Do the teams have to pay based on how much they are under or is it split evenly between all? Not sure I've seen that explained anywhere.
jivelikenice
August-4th-2011, 01:16 PM
There is nothing wrong with being uunder the cap - there is no team minimum this year.
There is nothign wrong with it, I just think we had an opportunity to pursue some guys who's market didn't materialize as they had hoped. There are guys out there taking 1-year deals and I think we could have paid slightly more on a 1 year deal to bring in some of these players given our cap space. The money doesn't help the product on the field this year and as long as we're handing out 1-year deals we would still maintain cap flexibility.
KillBill26
August-4th-2011, 01:16 PM
I used that phrase to reference the debacle we got ourselves into by paying Fat Al the $21 million but not getting anything from him, specifically his gentleman's promise that he'd attend OTAs. From a cap standpoint, it's golden. Maybe that was a bad choice of words, but all in all I'm glad it happened now and our front office was really astute in taking advantage of the uncapped year. That's one huge difference between this FO and the other one headed by that idiot Vinny Cerrato.[COLOR="Gold"]
Couldn't agree more. Albert handled it like a scumbag, and I think that situation will only get Snyder more pleased with the Allen/Shanny approach in comparison to how things unfolded when he and Vinny called the shots.
Darth Tater
August-4th-2011, 01:22 PM
There is nothing wrong with being uunder the cap - there is no team minimum this year.
Still, when the floor does come into effect, you'll be best served to be able to meet it using as much of current cap allocations as you can, not future allocations.
authentic
August-4th-2011, 01:24 PM
Beast Mode!!
http://www.sportsbusinessdaily.com/content/Image/12-22-2009/Bruce-Allen.jpg
Skadden
August-4th-2011, 01:26 PM
so how does that work? Do the teams have to pay based on how much they are under or is it split evenly between all? Not sure I've seen that explained anywhere.
When team minimums go into effect, each team will be responsible for any shortfall. No more awards for the Eagles for being the most under the cap. Actually, there was always a cap floor in place. The difference now is that there's a whole lot LESS space between the cap floor and cap ceiling.
Rdskns2000
August-4th-2011, 01:27 PM
Stay under the cap and once the season is done; then maybe there will be some young players who maybe can be locked up long term if they prove themselves. That's how you do it.
tex
August-4th-2011, 01:28 PM
So, the Skins have turned their roster upside down while adding quality, cutting a bunch of dead wood and saving some cap? That's freaking awesome, but I wonder what kind of cap number they are looking at next year? Will the new agreement mean heavy competition for next years high draft picks? Should we expect a lot of jockeying for position as teams reach out to those teams in possession of a high pick?
Inquiring minds want to know.
Rocket442Olds
August-4th-2011, 01:29 PM
The FO only has to spend about 5 to 6 mil to meet the minimum. Perhaps a FA OL?
What minimum?
There is no minimum this year, other than the total of 3.8 billion that all teams combined must spend by the end of the year.
The Floor doesn't go into effect until 2013
ddub52
August-4th-2011, 01:30 PM
I dont understand teams like the Bengals, Jags and Bucs. If you are REQUIRED to meet a certain minimum why not be competitive and go after quality players? The Bucs need a CB, why wait until all of the best ones are gone?
HBnotBlades
August-4th-2011, 01:31 PM
I think it's going to be pretty important to stay well under the cap going into 2012 and 2013. We have a team of a lot of young guys who are relative bargains on their current contract. Over the next year or two we'll likely see several of these young guys emerge and this kind of cap space puts us in position to sign them and lock down our core.
If we spend money now, just because we can, we'll end up in a bind when it comes to resigning the guys that will become Shanny's core group. We don't have to hit the team minimum until 2013, between now and then we may end up closing that gap by extending guys like Landry or any of the current crop of rookies (Kerrigan, Jenkins, Hank, Helu, etc.) that may hold out going into their 3rd year if they become dominant performers.
authentic
August-4th-2011, 01:32 PM
Well let's sign some ****in' offensive linemen then.
They just signed C Donovan Raiola.
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I dont understand teams like the Bengals, Jags and Bucs. If you are REQUIRED to meet a certain minimum why not be competitive and go after quality players? The Bucs need a CB, why wait until all of the best ones are gone?
They may be just 'Stuck on Stupid'... :ols:
HBnotBlades
August-4th-2011, 01:33 PM
Stay under the cap and once the season is done; then maybe there will be some young players who maybe can be locked up long term if they prove themselves. That's how you do it.
Exactly what I was saying. You beat me to it.
DiscoBob
August-4th-2011, 01:36 PM
If they make it through the preseason under the cap, they ought to extend some of their players that they know they want to keep - i.e. Laron Landry
They could "restructure" his deal to add 1-2 years on the end (I think he has two years left). They could easily add another bonus in 2011 for 11M and then tack on two years to his deal with salaries of 1M and 3M in 2014 & 2015. They would be effectively adding two years at 7.5M each.
They could use up an additional 10M in cap space this year and add two years to his deal (2014 & 2015) at cap hits of 1M & 3M
skinsfanindallas88
August-4th-2011, 01:38 PM
How in the hell are the Eagles still under?
Painkiller
August-4th-2011, 01:49 PM
and this ladies and gentleman is how a professional football team is run.
:cheers:
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Tired of talking about the Eagles and comparing ourselves to the Eagles. Wake me up when they actually win a SB. Until then, they can shove it where the sun don't shine, because despite how "great" they've managed their team, they still have ZIP to show for it.
+1
SkinFaninOKC
August-4th-2011, 01:54 PM
What minimum?
There is no minimum this year, other than the total of 3.8 billion that all teams combined must spend by the end of the year.
The Floor doesn't go into effect until 2013
I see. Makes sense now that the other teams haven't spent yet.
That doesn't change the fact the the Jags have to pay fans to go to their games so they may as well start spending now.:D
SkinsCrushCowboys
August-4th-2011, 01:54 PM
spend every penny on Olinemen,,,,,and I agree, the Eagles must have a crazy mathematician working to still be under the cap
aspkikn
August-4th-2011, 01:55 PM
I dont understand teams like the Bengals, Jags and Bucs. If you are REQUIRED to meet a certain minimum why not be competitive and go after quality players? The Bucs need a CB, why wait until all of the best ones are gone?
you are not required to meet a minimum this year
Hitman21ST
August-4th-2011, 01:58 PM
spend every penny on Olinemen,,,,,and I agree, the Eagles must have a crazy mathematician working to still be under the cap
Just give it a year or two. When it's a hard cap, they'll be struggling to find room.
aspkikn
August-4th-2011, 02:00 PM
the iggles are going for it this year. They have a nice core and are adding vets to make a run at it. Much different than what the skins have done in the past, where there was no core and adding vets trying to become competitive.
SkinsCrushCowboys
August-4th-2011, 02:02 PM
Just give it a year or two. When it's a hard cap, they'll be struggling to find room.
I agree, I think they are going "all in" for the next two years and then will have the biggest fire sale of players in history. Either that or they will trade a washed up Michael Vick and Jackson to the Redskins for a billion dollars and 4 draft picks
Chachie
August-4th-2011, 02:04 PM
How is Philly still under???
SkinsCrushCowboys
August-4th-2011, 02:05 PM
How is Philly still under???
they have the federal government doing thier math for the cap..
Darth Tater
August-4th-2011, 02:10 PM
How in the hell are the Eagles still under?
1. They were under big before their spree
2. In 2011 cap terms, they probably haven't spent as much in terms relative to their cap position mentioned in number 1 (remember, a 40+M contract could have year 1 cap allocations just slightly north of $2M, ask Santionio)
Hitman21ST
August-4th-2011, 02:17 PM
I agree, I think they are going "all in" for the next two years and then will have the biggest fire sale of players in history. Either that or they will trade a washed up Michael Vick and Jackson to the Redskins for a billion dollars and 4 draft picks
We're done dealing with them, and in two years, no one is going to trade diddly for Vick. I doubt Jackson will be in Philly next year - his contract is up after this year and they'll need some major cap magic to be able to sign him for what he'll want next year.
SkinsCrushCowboys
August-4th-2011, 02:22 PM
We're done dealing with them, and in two years, no one is going to trade diddly for Vick. I doubt Jackson will be in Philly next year - his contract is up after this year and they'll need some major cap magic to be able to sign him for what he'll want next year.
God, I hope you are right...it would nice to end the place where old players come to get paid and have careers die
Hitman21ST
August-4th-2011, 02:27 PM
God, I hope you are right...it would nice to end the place where old players come to get paid and have careers die
Do you remember the house cleaning we did this past year? That's the tip of the iceberg.
RichmondRedskin88
August-4th-2011, 02:32 PM
Do you remember the house cleaning we did this past year? That's the tip of the iceberg.
So wait the tip? So everyone gets fired? Sweet can the fans own the Skins(and have in the contract no making decisions related the team because we'll spiral into a black hole of misery for another 20 years)?
penteboss
August-4th-2011, 03:04 PM
This got updated a few minutes ago.
We're 11.45 mil under the cap
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/08/04/cap-room-snapshot-as-of-thursday/
RichmondRedskin88
August-4th-2011, 03:06 PM
I say we take advantage and bring in Mays. Young guy and we won't give up like anything.
CM916
August-4th-2011, 03:14 PM
I really don't like this new minimum cap. What are you supposed to do if none of your guys are worth the big bucks, hand out random bonus money? I really wonder how teams like Tampa even agreed to this, if they ever turned a profit on their own they are certainly dependent on shared revenue now. Most of the small market teams had payrolls $40million+ under this new minimum. I'd be hating this if I was an owner.
skins island connection
August-4th-2011, 03:23 PM
Poor raiders... they are so friggin backwards.
They should re-name the black hole to the red hole, which would match Al Davis' red arse...
andrewk78
August-4th-2011, 03:28 PM
its great to be so far under but sometimes it takes more than money to build a winning team.
Redskins Anonymous
August-4th-2011, 03:36 PM
I really don't like this new minimum cap. What are you supposed to do if none of your guys are worth the big bucks, hand out random bonus money? I really wonder how teams like Tampa even agreed to this, if they ever turned a profit on their own they are certainly dependent on shared revenue now. Most of the small market teams had payrolls $40million+ under this new minimum. I'd be hating this if I was an owner.
See, I actually like the minimum because it forces cheap Angelos-type owners like the Glazers to spend money and not fleece the fans and the city their team resides in. Last year the Bucs were something like 45 million under the cap. Given the amount of income they get from seat licenses, tickets, and no property taxes on their land, I think forcing them to actually go out and sign a guy here and there is not asking too much. Living here in Tampa where the fans are constantly whining about not signing free agents at all, has given me a little bit of appreciation for Dan. (I just wish the dude had done it alot less...)
Also, this small market myth in football is overplayed. With revenue sharing and the fact that most NFL teams in small markets are running a higher profit margin than big market teams, that is just an excuse from billionares to spend as little as possible with no concern for the product. The Glazers play the small market card on these morons all the time and they usually eat it up, too. It plays right into their previous hatred of "the big city" types. But from a finiancial standpoint it's just not true. This isn't baseball where everything the Yankees sell go to the Yankees. This is the NFL where everything the cowboys sell goes to all 31 other teams as well as the Cowboys. There are no local TV contracts in the NFL like in baseball so the big market teams are making the same money from national TV as the small market teams. The only thing they don't share is tickets / seating licenses which compared to the marketing and TV rights is nothing. It's time to stop buying the small market BS. It's not basbeall.
Hogs Ahead
August-4th-2011, 03:46 PM
So teams that are currently over the cap will have to make cuts before the season starts right? Does this mean some more FA's we might be interested in will be available in the next couple weeks? Or will it all just be trash? I guess I'm asking if we're saving our money till the other teams have to make cuts?
Lombardi's_kid_brother
August-4th-2011, 03:53 PM
I think it's time to sign Brett Favre.
Who's with me?
Anyone?
Anyone at all?
Redskins Anonymous
August-4th-2011, 03:56 PM
I think it's time to sign Brett Favre.
Who's with me?
Anyone?
Anyone at all?
*sound of crickets*
ChiefPowhatan17
August-4th-2011, 04:13 PM
I am so happy that there is no more dead money on this team..... Dead money= Dead weight
Engine754
August-4th-2011, 04:18 PM
The last guy we just signed a few hrs ago will make the 90th person !!!
I say we now sign Landry long term, then maybe start evaluating our roster over the next week now that everyone can finally practice. See what and where we need to add players, and keep our eyes open on other teams cutting players that could help us build for the future.
We def need more OL help for sure !!!!
Skadden
August-4th-2011, 05:20 PM
Dallas fans better hope that Jerry knows what he's doing. The Cowboys cap number, which was already $3 million + north of the $123 million limit, actually doubled in two days. To be sure, they're doing things like restructuring players such as DeMarcus Ware's contract. But they're cutting things awfully close. They've got less 22 hours to fix things or else they start paying for being over the cap. I think that loss of draft picks may be a penalty for being over the cap.
iMeast
August-4th-2011, 05:31 PM
Please!!
I'll third this.
HTTR
GO HAMSKINS
August-4th-2011, 05:46 PM
Does this mean we will win more games ? If not then I don't give a damn
Skadden
August-4th-2011, 05:48 PM
The last guy we just signed a few hrs ago will make the 90th person !!!
I say we now sign Landry long term, then maybe start evaluating our roster over the next week now that everyone can finally practice. See what and where we need to add players, and keep our eyes open on other teams cutting players that could help us build for the future.
We def need more OL help for sure !!!!
Technically, it's actually the 87th. We've got three players on PUP that don't count towards the 90-man total.
Bobbyst21
August-4th-2011, 05:52 PM
Thats Great to see for a change.Need to find some really good O-line men now.
Darth Tater
August-4th-2011, 06:05 PM
its great to be so far under but sometimes it takes more than money to build a winning team.
The further you are under the cap, the cheaper it will be to reach the floor. One of the most expensive and dangerous things that will happen when you are close to the cap is that you risk having a guy who you have to pay but he is worth what you pay him. Further, if you are rolling cap hits back so you can meet the floor, you may not be able to make certain types of revenue enhancing decisions
---------- Post added August-4th-2011 at 05:16 PM ----------
So teams that are currently over the cap will have to make cuts before the season starts right? Does this mean some more FA's we might be interested in will be available in the next couple weeks? Or will it all just be trash? I guess I'm asking if we're saving our money till the other teams have to make cuts?
My guess is that you'd look at who can restructure. Its basically easy to slip a guy a little cash now to get him to lower his current cap hit, trick is targeting the right ones. Next, what older guys can you cut? Next, what scrubs can you cut? There may be a handful of guys who fall victim to the cap knife, but its usually because they are old and fading or scrubs. You are mostly going to find short-term stop gaps and competition guys.
Skadden
August-4th-2011, 06:32 PM
I must say that I'm actually proud of the Redskins this offseason. Not only did they have a great draft, but with all the cap space they had, they could've reverted back to their old form in blowing all sorts of money and cap space on overpaid, imported talent. Instead, we signed a bunch of our own guys and other people who didn't cost a lot, who are younger, and who fit our system. That's a very good sign that The Danny isn't meddling, at least as of right now.
lavarisgone
August-4th-2011, 06:59 PM
So who did the iggles release, in order to sign so many high priced players, if they were only 3.8 mil under the cap to start free agency???
SwampEm
August-5th-2011, 09:27 AM
If they took that 18.7M and divided it up amongst the 80K season tickets that is a refund of $233.75 per season ticket. I have 4 tickets. I would love to have an extra $938 right now. LOL
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