Cult of Clemens

[Jumbo]

Due to popular demand and semi-inspired by NYJfan's thread. Let's see if this has any legs. Maybe start with people posting any interesting data/articles they find on what may be the newest man-crush of Redskins nation. :helmet:

[Manny555]

Do we give partial credit around here?!? Lol!!

[Jumbo]

I did give general credit :ols:--I had a PM on it, and it was suggested by Edwardpena69 in the other thread, and another ES'er passed the thought yesterday. You feeling needy or something? :pfft:

Tomorrow afternoon I'll talk to a football fan buddy who's been teaching at Clemen's alma mater for years, so I will grill him. Here's Clemens write-up on his UofO days from wiki:


Clemens played college football at the University of Oregon. He assumed the role of starting QB in all 13 games in 2003 and responded by throwing for more TD passes and yards than any sophomore in school history, surpassing Dan Fouts--who had 16 TDs and 2,390 yards (2,190 m), in 1970. He posted three rushing TD, three passing TD and a career-best 437 passing yards in a road victory over Washington State as a junior. He was a senior during the 2005 season, and was pursuing several school records until he broke his ankle while playing a game at Arizona. He would miss the remaining three games of the season. Still, he finished 2005 with 2,406 passing yards, 19 TDs, only 4 interceptions, and a 152.87 passer efficiency rating. He finished his Oregon career with 7,555 passing yards.

[Hitman21ST]

http://blog.nj.com/jets_impact/2009/05/large_Jets%20Quarterbacks%20Football.JPG

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kellen_Clemens

Career stats (25 games, 9 starts): 147-284 (51.8%), 1,686 yards, 5 TDs, 11INTs, 35 sacks QBR: 59.7

[SonOfWashington]

Here we go again. :ahhhhh:

http://archive.chicagobreakingsports.com/colt-brennan-187.jpg
Sup guys remember me I shaved Hawaii in my head

[Hiro]

Here we go again. :ahhhhh:

http://archive.chicagobreakingsports.com/colt-brennan-187.jpg
Sup guys remember me I shaved Hawaii in my head
He's sooooo accurate!

[ciresolstice]

Career stats (25 games, 9 starts): 147-284 (51.8%), 1,686 yards, 5 TDs, 11INTs, 35 sacks QBR: 59.7


^^^^ ewwwwww. lol the QB situation here is pretty scary. No matter where the team has filled in or improved otherwise, the QB play will most likely undermine all of that. Oh well. We shall see.

[Jumbo]

Some of you guys really know how to carry a grudge! :ols:

Just occurred to me...I might be subject to a lawsuit from TK. :ols:

[thesubmittedone]

lol, not again! I do have to wonder, is there any other sports message board in the world that has the kind of history, mystique and just amazing depth that ES does? Where else could you make a thread as outlandish as this and have virtually everyone know what it means, lol?

[STBonecrusher21]

One word......Moxy.


:)

[TK]

I'll see you in court. :)

Now, had you went with Clemons Lemon, you'd have been fine. :)

[NewCliche21]

Oh what the hell, I'll jump on board.

Jumbo's quoted write-up shows that he was a beast his sophomore year. Isn't ASF's (Thanks, Martin) method to predict quarterback success in the NFL based on a quarterback's performance his sophomore year?

[MartinC]

Oh what the hell, I'll jump on board.

Jumbo's quoted write-up shows that he was a beast his sophomore year. Isn't Oldfan's method to predict quarterback success in the NFL based on a quarterback's performance his sophomore year?

Nah I think that was ASFs stats based model to predict NFL success based on College production. Or something. He was touting Greg McElroy as a QB we should draft as I recall based on his model and half of ES got sucked into a thread on the subject. At least this is a thread on a QB we have I guess.

[Gibbs Hog Heaven]

Only if there's cookies.

GHH get no cookie, GHH no Clemonite!

Hail.

[NewCliche21]

Nah I think that was ASFs stats based model to predict NFL success based on College production. Or something. He was touting Greg McElroy as a QB we should draft as I recall based on his model and half of ES got sucked into a thread on the subject. At least this is a thread on a QB we have I guess.

Yes, you're right, it was ASF. I get them all confused. :)

[DRSmith]

What no Grossman's gang or Beck's bandwagon?

[clarence3]

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[Blue Collar Skins]

Really? Really Jumbo? :silly:

[RichmondRedskin88]

Somewhere in Connecticut Colt is laughing
----
btw is wrong I almost miss Colt with the QB situation right now?

[Portis for 6]

The one thing I get out of this is that CK is the next Dan Fouts?:logo::logo:

[Forehead]

One thing I'll give Kellen Clemens...I actually saw him show an occasional shred of competency, in a real game, with the Jets, so I can at least understand this thread.

As opposed to the 1,000 page one devoted to a QB who looked good in a pre-season game and had one of the worst throwing motions I've ever seen. As far as I'm concerned, that thread was a stain on this board.

[Probos]

http://blog.nj.com/jets_impact/2009/05/large_Jets%20Quarterbacks%20Football.JPG

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kellen_Clemens

Career stats (25 games, 9 starts): 147-284 (51.8%), 1,686 yards, 5 TDs, 11INTs, 35 sacks QBR: 59.7

Wow, impressive. I'm excited.

[Fred Jones]

During one of the threads someone, believe it was a media person, said Clemens, unlike Beck and Rex, can make all the throws.

Well, that is step one. Step two is quickly reading NFL defenses and finding the open player consistently. Third is accuracy. I will give him the benefit of the doubt on reading defenses until he sees time during the preseason. 51.8% in 25 NFL games is not encouraging. That said, I hope the coaching staff give him a chance to show he can play in this offense. Going to be difficult as the number 3.

[Edwardpena69]

Ohhh yea. Just wait til Friday when we see him light up a 3rd string defense. This thread will really take off.

[Dan T.]

Jumbo's quoted write-up shows that he was a beast his sophomore year.

Two-toed sloths... Sea cows... Ostriches... These are also beasts who cannot throw a football.

[authentic]

Career stats (25 games, 9 starts): 147-284 (51.8%), 1,686 yards, 5 TDs, 11INTs, 35 sacks QBR: 59.7


^^^^ ewwwwww. lol the QB situation here is pretty scary. No matter where the team has filled in or improved otherwise, the QB play will most likely undermine all of that. Oh well. We shall see.

to be fair thier Oline was Horrible during that time. Not saying that i'm a fan of Clemens, but it wasn't all his fault.

[frankez99]

Let's see:

- Size is over-rated.

- Arm strength is over-rated.

- Mechanics don't make the quarterback.

- College competition level is over-rated

- Clemens has the "it" factor.

- Coaches screwed with his throwing motion.

- He has moxie.

- All he needs is a chance.

- If we cut him, it'll come back to haunt us.

- He's the next Joe Montana because he lights up 3rd stringers during the pre-season.

- The Jets and Redskins were idiots for not instantly making him the starter.

Do I have them all covered? Cool.

Lock thread.

[Skinz4Life12]

clemens has "moxy" and "it"!!

haha whatever happened to all those clowns that posted in the Cult of Colt thread?

matter of fact, what happened to Colt? Is he bagging groceries yet?

[Bang]

I'm in.
I like the cut of his jib.

~Bang

[Probos]

I'm in.
I like the cut of his jib.

~Bang

I read somewhere that jibs are overrated.

[Stew]

Kellen Clemens reminds me of that one guy... the guy in your frat that has no area of expertise... about anything, but when faced with a technical problem, he looks at it and says "Ya know what, I think I can fix that". AC on the fritz? Car wont turn over? Space heater just not putting out enough heat? This guy will be glad to tinker around with it until he is satisfied that he cannot fix whatever it is for you. Just by looking at him, thats who Kellen Clemens reminds me of.

He also kind of reminds me of that one Baldwin brother in Half Baked that says "Get me an avacado, my snorkel, and an ice pick... go on bro, Ive made bongs with less"


With that said, this is the guy who I want to win the QB battle. He is the darkhorse, an unknown, and the man knows how to birddoggit. The man has a chip on his shoulder, and is angry. He reads the playbook for 14 hours a day, and thrusts his fists into piles of burning coals for the other ten hours of the day... waiting for his chance to sling the ol pig skin. Malcolm Kelly didn't hurt his foot, Kellen Clemens stepped on Malcolm Kellys foot because he didn't think Malcolm was trying hard enough. Kellen Clemens solves rubix cube puzzles with one hand, while in the huddle. This man is our future starter... THIS MAN IS OUR FUTURE!!!


Wwwhhhhhooooooooooooo-weeeeeeee!

[MassSkinsFan]

http://blog.nj.com/jets_impact/2009/05/large_Jets%20Quarterbacks%20Football.JPG


JAZZ HANDS!!!


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OT, but when exactly did Rex Grossman turn into Daniel Snyder Jr.?

[Boston Skins]

JAZZ HANDS!!!



OT, but when exactly did Rex Grossman turn into Daniel Snyder Jr.?

Looks like a Snyder/Haynesworth love child to me. Look at that gut!

DUDE, you're in Somerville?!? I'm living near Inman Square for the summer!

[MassSkinsFan]

Looks like a Snyder/Haynesworth love child to me. Look at that gut!

DUDE, you're in Somerville?!? I'm living near Inman Square for the summer!

Ville side or Cambridge side?

I'm up on the hill by City Hall.

[Boston Skins]

Ville side or Cambridge side?

I'm up on the hill by City Hall.

Ah ok yeah. I'm on the ville side. Just a couple blocks away from the Thirsty Scholar.

[MassSkinsFan]

Ah ok yeah. I'm on the ville side. Just a couple blocks away from the Thirsty Scholar.

Classic!!! I lived over there about 10 years ago and we went there a lot. We called it the Scummy Professor, aka Scummy's. One of the bands I'm in practices at my buddy's house on Hammond Street (in the Ville off Concord, one block behind Beacon) so I'm over there every week.

Glad to hear you're on the RIGHT side of Inman!

If you see some guy yelling insanely at you because you're wearing Skins stuff, that'll be me.

[Tay]

Blasphemy!!! There can only be one Cult

[Boston Skins]

Classic!!! I lived over there about 10 years ago and we went there a lot. We called it the Scummy Professor, aka Scummy's. One of the bands I'm in practices at my buddy's house on Hammond Street (in the Ville off Concord, one block behind Beacon) so I'm over there every week.

Glad to hear you're on the RIGHT side of Inman!

If you see some guy yelling insanely at you because you're wearing Skins stuff, that'll be me.

Haha sounds good brotha! These DMV guys just don't know, this town has been buzzing with Haynesworth talk! I only live up here during the summers, and when he got traded to the Pats I was like "Damn! I can't get rid of this guy!"

[MassSkinsFan]

Haha sounds good brotha! These DMV guys just don't know, this town has been buzzing with Haynesworth talk! I only live up here during the summers, and when he got traded to the Pats I was like "Damn! I can't get rid of this guy!"


Ya know, it was like being transported back 2 years in time... Ugh.

THIS JUST IN:
Fat Boy is Still Worthless!!! (http://blog.masslive.com/patriots/2011/08/defensive_lineman_albert_hayne.html)

Note: No Pats practice yesterday. No news yet on whether he showed today.

[Jumbo]

One thing I'll give Kellen Clemens...I actually saw him show an occasional shred of competency, in a real game, with the Jets, so I can at least understand this thread.

As opposed to the 1,000 page one devoted to a QB who looked good in a pre-season game and had one of the worst throwing motions I've ever seen. As far as I'm concerned, that thread was a stain on this board.


Understand the thread? Hell don't put too much effort into such things. :ols:

The thread was mainly for a laugh (also the tone I picked up from the other "sugestees" :pfft:).

But if it morphs into something more serious or dies soon (my expectation), fine. Maybe Clemens will be our surprise savior if Rex Beck (doesn't that sound like a great Hollywood name?) wash out and KC becomes our own one-man Sunshine Band and lead us into the land of chart-toppers and help us forget the disappointment of Ramsey, Campbell, & Colt. Seems like a longshot to me, but I'll "yippy" as loud as anyone. :D

As for stains on this board, there's no shortage---wild assumption: on an internet message board with many tens of thousands registered to post, you'll get stained at times :D.

But if it's any help, just think of the stains you've left here, mi amigo, and still rock on---I bet zoony has a list. :cool: :ols:

[Stew]

Kellen Clemens approves this thread, and then throws a 600 yard touchdown.

[Jumbo]

Two-toed sloths... Sea cows... Ostriches... These are also beasts who cannot throw a football.

I'd add Katy Perry and Lady Gaga



clemens has "moxy" and "it"!!

As long as he isn't "spunky." I hate "spunky."




I like the cut of his jib.~Bang

He's Jewish?


Blasphemy!!!

Not my first time.

[SkinsCrushCowboys]

JAZZ HANDS!!!



OT, but when exactly did Rex Grossman turn into Daniel Snyder Jr.?

When did Grossman turn into Jabba the Hut? If it comes down to a foot race...my money is on Clemens...

[pjfootballer]

I smell NNT. :ols::pfft:

[monkeezgob]

JAZZ HANDS!!!



OT, but when exactly did Rex Grossman turn into Daniel Snyder Jr.?

The real Real Rex Grossman is locked in Snyder's trunk. Dan is our new starting QB. Old habits die hard, you never really thought he was going to give control did you?

[TonePatron]

Lets see whats he got this Friday night,

Colt should of never gave his number to Donovan , miss that thread

[Boston Skins]

When did Grossman turn into Jabba the Hut? If it comes down to a foot race...my money is on Clemens...

Watch the interview on Redskins.com. Rexy is out of breath throughout the whole thing. This really isn't good...

[Rypien1191]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wRnSnfiUI54 at this thread.

[SkinsCrushCowboys]

Watch the interview on Redskins.com. Rexy is out of breath throughout the whole thing. This really isn't good...

He looks like awful, like he is off of a 3 month bender and not working out...oh wait, that is exactly what he did, ;)

[MassSkinsFan]

Watch the interview on Redskins.com. Rexy is out of breath throughout the whole thing. This really isn't good...

At least with Albert gone there'll be no shortage of oxygen masks for him to use.

Kellen Clemens is the only human being capable of anaerobic respiration and a 200+ quarterback rating.

[SwampEm]

Career stats (25 games, 9 starts): 147-284 (51.8%), 1,686 yards, 5 TDs, 11INTs, 35 sacks QBR: 59.7

Yeah, but how does he rank using ESPN's new QB rating system?
http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/6833215/explaining-statistics-total-quarterback-rating

[HapHaszard]

S

Just occurred to me...I might be subject to a lawsuit from TK. :ols:

I got a good lawyer for you. But he doesn't work cheap.

[London Kev]

Haynesworth hasn't been to practice for three days. My guess is that grossman ate him!

[Annonymous Source]

Redskins have Kellen Clemens, Superbowl is naow.

[Edwardpena69]

Clemens the the next tupac, biggie, Elway, Brady, Manning combined. I heard he eats the heart of the opposing teams Qb after games. He is ruthless

[VaSkinsNut]

It's CLEMENTIME!


Yep...that's this thread's war cry

[Stew]

It's CLEMENTIME!


Yep...that's this thread's war cry



Oh yeah... you are drinking the Clemenaide!

[Reaper 21]

end this thread today before it rolls into a 5000 pg cult thread

[Dan T.]

It's CLEMENTIME!


Yep...that's this thread's war cry

Oh mah darlin'.

[Mr. Sinister]

It's CLEMENTIME!


Yep...that's this thread's war cry


Oh yeah... you are drinking the Clemenaide!

Nice :ols:

[-mando-]

I was never a fan of Colt...but with what we are working with this year I am all for Clemens. He probably has the best arm of the bunch.

[TheRookie]

I heard Clemens is so good, that after his vacation to the Virgin Islands during the lockout, they had to change the name to simply...The Islands.

[Edwardpena69]

I heard Clemens is so good, that after his vacation to the Virgin Islands during the lockout, they had to change the name to simply...The Islands.
Classic. :ols:

[Bang]

Oh yeah... you are drinking the Clemenaide!

:ols:

Yer Kellen' me!

But, I'm sure any judge would show Clemency

~Bang

[J3553]

According to twitter, Clemens was "invisible" at training camp yesterday. Clearly, has retrieved the One Ring from the fires of Mordor!

[RichmondRedskin88]

puns must die....

[s0crates]

Just saw: Redskins sign QB Matt Gutierrez

Why another QB!?! Give Clemens a shot! Trust me he is the real deal.

I saw him play at Haw. . . Oregon. He had a 152.87 passer efficiency rating one year. Trust me he is the future! ;)